The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 390 - Dark Psychic Democrats

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00:00:37.760 Dark psychic forces dominated our national political debate over the past two days

00:00:43.180 as 20 Democrat wannabe presidents took the stage in Detroit to humiliate themselves.

00:00:48.860 We will examine the best of the worst with a special emphasis on breakout star Marianne Williamson.

00:00:55.380 Then the mailbag, all that and more.

00:00:57.300 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:07.060 Marianne, baby.

00:01:08.140 She is the breakout star of these debates.

00:01:11.180 We'll go through everything.

00:01:12.120 We'll give you the 50,000-foot view.

00:01:14.620 We'll get into why Marianne broke out.

00:01:17.240 I also want to do a little bit of a deeper dive into who she is and what she's peddling

00:01:22.660 because we love her.

00:01:24.200 We're members of the Orb Gang.

00:01:26.500 We've left the Yang Gang. 1.00

00:01:28.020 Now we're on the Marianne Orb Gang.

00:01:30.000 But she's also peddling ideas that are extremely destructive, 0.99

00:01:34.060 and not just political ideas but also cultural and spiritual ideas.

00:01:36.980 So we'll get into that all in a second.

00:01:39.140 I want to point out, though, that Marianne Williamson made the single truest statement

00:01:45.500 during either night of the Democratic debate.

00:01:48.920 The single truest statement.

00:01:50.380 She said three things in this statement. 1.00

00:01:53.160 One, Democrats are idiots to focus on wonkiness. 1.00

00:01:57.780 They're idiots to focus on the accounting details of their various zillion-dollar plans 1.00

00:02:02.720 that the Americans don't care about that at all, is the first thing. 1.00

00:02:06.260 She said that there is a dark, psychic force that we are fighting against in politics.

00:02:12.940 That is completely true.

00:02:14.820 And she said that if Democrats don't change their strategy soon,

00:02:18.080 that Donald Trump is going to be re-elected.

00:02:20.080 So much truth packed into just 28 seconds.

00:02:24.180 Here's a listen.

00:02:25.340 If you think any of this wonkiness is going to deal with this dark, psychic force

00:02:29.520 of the collectivized hatred that this president is bringing up in this country,

00:02:33.660 then I'm afraid that the Democrats are going to see some very dark days.

00:02:37.200 We need to say it like it is.

00:02:38.540 It's bigger than Flint.

00:02:39.880 It's all over this country.

00:02:41.120 It's particularly people of color.

00:02:42.500 It's particularly people who do not have the money to fight back.

00:02:45.380 And if the Democrats don't start saying it,

00:02:47.420 then why would those people feel that they're there for us?

00:02:49.760 And if those people don't feel it, they won't vote for us.

00:02:52.300 And Donald Trump will win.

00:02:53.720 Thank you very much.

00:02:55.120 Donald Trump will win.

00:02:57.000 As things stand now, truer words have never been said.

00:03:00.000 All three points are totally right. 1.00

00:03:01.480 So wonkiness is stupid. 1.00

00:03:04.420 And the Democrats, you'll notice their debates have been all about these very particular 1.00

00:03:08.540 aspects of their different zillion dollar programs.

00:03:12.000 They all take for granted that we should take over one sixth of the American economy with

00:03:16.220 health care.

00:03:16.800 They all basically take for granted that they should force their huge federal health care

00:03:21.380 programs on all of America.

00:03:23.360 So they're just arguing about the details.

00:03:25.340 This is what the left does.

00:03:26.460 The left has the vision of the anointed, as Thomas Sowell would say.

00:03:29.920 The left has this utopian progressive vision.

00:03:33.360 They see utopia.

00:03:34.440 They see the perfect place.

00:03:36.280 They don't realize that utopia means no place.

00:03:38.340 They think it means the perfect place.

00:03:39.840 So they see it and they're progressing toward it.

00:03:42.420 And it doesn't even dawn on them that some people might object to their utopia.

00:03:47.420 It doesn't even dawn on them.

00:03:48.720 Hmm.

00:03:49.200 Maybe the federal government shouldn't control one sixth of our economy and all of our health 0.99

00:03:53.660 care decisions and life and death.

00:03:56.140 Maybe that's not such a great idea.

00:03:57.960 They don't think that way.

00:04:00.480 They just assume that we're all on board with this progressive plan.

00:04:04.260 Even though poll after poll shows that progressivism is a minority viewpoint in America.

00:04:10.960 So study after study shows progressivism is about 20% of America.

00:04:16.740 Maybe about 40% of America is conservative.

00:04:18.760 The rest would call themselves centrist or moderate or undecided or independent.

00:04:22.400 And yet they are certain that that 20% of America, which is progressive, represents the

00:04:27.620 whole of the country.

00:04:28.680 So they're not discussing ideas.

00:04:31.140 What you will hear in Republican debates, much more than in left-wing debates, is a discussion

00:04:36.940 of different ideas, different visions of the country.

00:04:40.700 You got a little bit of that last night, especially with Tulsi Gabbard.

00:04:43.440 We'll get to that at the end.

00:04:44.720 But for most of the debate, you did not get that.

00:04:49.240 And what the American people want from their presidential candidates is big ideas.

00:04:53.260 President Trump didn't get into the minutiae and the details of every policy proposal.

00:04:57.080 He probably didn't read the minutiae and the details of every policy proposal.

00:05:00.480 He talked in big ideas.

00:05:02.360 We're not electing an accountant.

00:05:03.880 We're not electing the functionary at the department of so-and-so, some mid-level bureaucrat.

00:05:09.360 We're electing the president.

00:05:10.620 We want big ideas.

00:05:11.640 We want a big vision.

00:05:12.420 But Marianne totally got that.

00:05:15.260 Also, the dark psychic force, she's completely right about that.

00:05:18.620 When people made fun of her, that was the viral moment.

00:05:20.920 Dark psychic force is very real.

00:05:24.220 I forget who said it.

00:05:25.440 A lot of people have been credited with saying it.

00:05:28.160 At bottom, all political differences are theological differences.

00:05:31.920 St. Andrew Breitbart, the patron of Hollywood Conservatives, said,

00:05:34.920 Politics is downstream of culture, and culture we know is downstream of religion.

00:05:38.560 Cult and culture come from the same root.

00:05:40.640 What a culture worships defines that culture.

00:05:44.500 So when we're talking about political problems, it's not just someone lost their health insurance

00:05:52.520 because of this aspect of a federal program, and if you fix that aspect, then you're okay.

00:05:56.500 It's not just we need to lower the marginal tax rate 0.2%.

00:05:59.700 You're talking about spiritual realities because human beings are not just meat.

00:06:04.560 We're not just animals.

00:06:05.640 We don't just grunt along and eat our slop and fall asleep in our own filth.

00:06:10.200 Well, increasingly in America, we do do that, but we're not supposed to do that.

00:06:14.040 Winston Churchill said, when great forces are on the move in the world, we learn that we're spirits, not animals.

00:06:19.340 The destiny of man is not measured by material computation.

00:06:23.160 Ronald Reagan knew that.

00:06:24.100 He quoted that very line in his breakout political speech, A Time for Choosing.

00:06:28.960 We have a major spiritual component to our humanity.

00:06:33.020 That is what matters to us are these spiritual things, and Marianne is talking about that.

00:06:37.960 And when she talks about a dark psychic force, we're talking about what we all know to be true,

00:06:42.860 which is that mankind is broken, we're fallen, and the origin story of our whole human nature,

00:06:49.520 of our whole fallen world, is that the devil tempted man in the Garden of Eden,

00:06:54.020 and we made that choice and gave in to that temptation, and we got kicked out of paradise,

00:06:59.020 and now we live in this broken world because sin and death pervaded the world.

00:07:03.200 That dark psychic force that is always crouching, trying to devour you, that's the devil, and the devil exists.

00:07:09.180 Antonin Scalia used to laugh about this because in a secular world, people think you're crazy if you believe in the devil.

00:07:16.980 And what Antonin Scalia answered in a New York Magazine interview, he said,

00:07:21.640 you know, I believe in the devil.

00:07:23.280 And the interviewer, who's some secular girl who worked for New York Mag, said,

00:07:27.700 well, it must be awful scary to believe in the devil.

00:07:30.060 And he said, you're looking at me like I'm crazy.

00:07:33.740 Do you realize how out of touch you are with most of America?

00:07:37.160 Do you realize how out of touch you are with the vast, vast majority of people who have ever lived,

00:07:43.520 who have believed in the devil?

00:07:45.940 And then this was the key line.

00:07:47.200 He said, many more intelligent people than you or I have believed in the devil.

00:07:53.140 And Marianne Williamson is basically saying that exact same thing,

00:07:55.980 and people are calling her crazy for it.

00:07:57.660 But she's totally right about that.

00:07:59.240 And then she's right that Trump will win if the Democrats don't change.

00:08:02.760 But there is a big problem with Marianne Williamson.

00:08:07.160 We'll get to that in one second.

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00:09:45.240 So Marianne says the truest statement of the entire democratic debate, of either night.

00:09:52.940 But there's something very wrong with Marianne.

00:09:55.500 So she's the new Andrew Yang.

00:09:56.780 We like that.

00:09:58.500 Andrew Yang is broke.

00:09:59.900 Marianne Williamson is woke.

00:10:01.400 The orb gang is the new woke thing.

00:10:03.060 But they're calling it the orb gang.

00:10:06.360 Why?

00:10:06.720 Because orbs and crystals and opal and all these sort of things are symbols of the new age movement.

00:10:14.140 And that's what Marianne Williamson is. 0.61

00:10:16.560 Marianne Williamson is a guru, self-styled guru, promoted by Oprah a million times, written a bunch of books about a spiritual and religious movement called the new age movement.

00:10:28.260 Most people don't know what that means.

00:10:31.460 So I think it's certainly worth taking a moment to explain it because Marianne Williamson is a fun sideshow.

00:10:38.620 I love her.

00:10:39.380 I only tune into the debates for her.

00:10:41.380 She's also peddling a dangerous heresy that almost certainly comes from the devil himself. 1.00

00:10:46.780 I'm not joking about that.

00:10:49.100 I mean, this is a genuinely diabolical heresy that she is promoting. 1.00

00:10:53.280 So she's been promoted by Oprah. 0.99

00:10:54.880 That's how you know she's probably peddling diabolical heresy. 1.00

00:10:58.540 So Oprah has promoted this woman for years. 1.00

00:11:01.180 And Oprah herself is another peddler of the new age movement nonsense. 0.99

00:11:06.080 So Oprah does something called Super Soul Sunday. 0.98

00:11:09.640 Think about the cojones it takes to style yourself as that kind of religious leader when you're not a religious leader. 0.87

00:11:16.600 Super Soul Sunday, as though Oprah is this expert on the human soul. 0.95

00:11:22.120 She's made herself into not just a TV figure, not a political figure, not even just a cultural figure.

00:11:27.860 She's made herself into a religious figure, as has Marianne.

00:11:31.620 And the question is, what religion is Oprah?

00:11:34.680 She's not Christian. 1.00

00:11:36.400 Occasionally she's said she's sort of Christian, but she doesn't believe in Christian orthodoxy or anything even remotely resembling Christian orthodoxy.

00:11:44.780 So she's not a Christian religious figure.

00:11:46.420 She's not a priest.

00:11:47.220 She's not a pastor.

00:11:48.040 She's not a pastor, not a deacon, not a bishop.

00:11:51.560 She's not Jewish, right? 0.99

00:11:53.020 She's not a Jewish religious figure.

00:11:54.420 She's not Hindu. 0.99

00:11:55.100 She's not Muslim. 1.00

00:11:56.860 She's new age.

00:11:59.060 And she did an interview on Super Soul Sunday with Marianne Williamson.

00:12:06.360 Starts out sort of okay, just like all new agey stuff does.

00:12:09.980 And then it gets real kooky, real fast.

00:12:12.400 Finish these sentences.

00:12:14.080 Okay.

00:12:14.560 The world needs.

00:12:16.980 Love.

00:12:17.980 Love.

00:12:18.540 Love.

00:12:19.460 I believe in.

00:12:21.820 God.

00:12:22.820 Love is.

00:12:24.300 Everywhere.

00:12:25.500 I am grateful for.

00:12:28.900 My daughter and my work.

00:12:32.520 Do I get to?

00:12:33.960 Yeah, you get to.

00:12:34.840 Whatever you want.

00:12:36.640 What is the soul?

00:12:37.960 For me, it's the truth of who we are, the light, the love, which is within us.

00:12:44.400 It goes by different names, but the truth of us.

00:12:48.120 Michelangelo said when he got a statue that he would go to the quarry and get a big piece of marble.

00:12:54.440 And the way he imagined it, God had already created the statue.

00:12:58.800 And his job was just to get rid of the excess marble.

00:13:01.740 So that's what we're like.

00:13:02.960 Inside is the being that God has already created.

00:13:06.140 Some call it the Christ, the Buddha mind, the Shekinah, the light, the soul.

00:13:11.200 And our job is to get rid of this excess, useless fear, thought forms of the world that actually hide the light of the soul.

00:13:24.820 Excuse me.

00:13:25.660 Sorry.

00:13:25.940 I just had to take a few puffs there to try to get on the level with Oprah and Marianne. 0.56

00:13:30.880 So you see that kind of defining feature.

00:13:33.200 There is this total relativism and this total self-centeredness.

00:13:40.200 So she goes, yeah, man, some people call it Christ.

00:13:43.300 Some people call it Buddha.

00:13:45.460 Some people, but you know, it's just, it's really what it is, is not just that radical relativism.

00:13:51.080 It's all about you.

00:13:53.100 You are that light.

00:13:54.760 You are that truth.

00:13:55.700 You are the way and the truth and the life and the Buddha and the Christ.

00:13:58.100 That is New Age, and it is wickedly wrong.

00:14:03.060 Where does she get these ideas from? 0.93

00:14:05.600 Because I think some people think she's just kind of spouting nonsense. 0.95

00:14:09.620 Obviously she is, but she's not just spouting nonsense. 0.70

00:14:12.940 She's spouting a very specific kind of nonsense from the New Age movement, specifically from a book called A Course in Miracles.

00:14:20.840 Don't take my word for it.

00:14:21.940 She tells Oprah on a whole other program about her love of this particular book.

00:14:27.800 Do you have a morning ritual, Marianne Williamson?

00:14:30.300 I love to, I love orange juice.

00:14:33.620 I love a cup of coffee.

00:14:35.020 I go back into my bed.

00:14:36.100 I make it neat.

00:14:37.440 I bring up my A Course in Miracles.

00:14:39.340 I do my meditation.

00:14:40.360 You must have done it a hundred times by now.

00:14:42.980 She's done it more than a hundred times.

00:14:44.360 Even there's another clip of Marianne on Oprah years and years ago where she used to ask point blank, what's your favorite book?

00:14:50.680 Favorite book is A Course in Miracles.

00:14:52.080 What is A Course in Miracles?

00:14:53.560 A Course in Miracles is the New Age anti-gospel.

00:14:57.640 You wouldn't call it a gospel, but it's the anti-gospel.

00:15:00.040 It's written by a tortured woman named Helen Shuchman, and she channeled what she called a new gospel through a spirit claiming to be Jesus Christ.

00:15:10.400 So this woman, this very troubled woman, Helen, had a vision, and she believed that Jesus was speaking to her.

00:15:19.040 She believed that a spirit from the spiritual world who was claiming to be Jesus and speaking to her a new gospel.

00:15:27.680 She was having this private revelation of a new gospel.

00:15:30.700 And why was the spirit speaking to her?

00:15:32.700 The spirit, who she said was Jesus, was speaking to her to correct errors in scripture and the teachings of the church.

00:15:41.400 Now, Christians hold the Bible to be inerrant, scripture to be without error. 1.00

00:15:46.760 She is saying, no, no, no.

00:15:48.200 Not only is it full of error, but Jesus himself spoke personally to me and only me to correct these errors,

00:15:55.140 specifically the errors that the apostles lied.

00:15:58.120 So we can't trust the apostles anymore.

00:15:59.700 This spirit, claiming to be Jesus, also told Helen that we are all Christ and that we have no need of a savior.

00:16:16.080 So this is not just a heresy.

00:16:19.020 This is not just a different version of Christianity.

00:16:21.740 This is anti-Christianity. 0.78

00:16:23.440 This is the opposite of Christianity. 0.99

00:16:25.040 And Helen was a Columbia University professor and psychologist, and she was an acquaintance of a priest named Father Benedict J. Grushel.

00:16:34.960 And Father Grushel was close enough to her that he actually gave a eulogy at her funeral.

00:16:40.360 So it's not like he was some opponent of hers.

00:16:42.140 They actually seem to be quite friendly.

00:16:44.580 He later said, having known this woman and having given the eulogy at her funeral, quote,

00:16:49.040 This woman, who had written so eloquently that suffering really did not exist, spent the last two years of her life in the blackest psychotic depression I have ever witnessed.

00:17:01.920 And I know people who have gotten involved in the New Age movement.

00:17:05.600 New Age is no joke, and it does lead people to some pretty dark places.

00:17:08.720 The reason this matters, particularly for our politics, is not just that we're pretty soon going to be all living under the Williamson administration,

00:17:16.340 but it's also because New Ageism is the kind of defining spiritual movement of our culture.

00:17:23.840 It's radically relativistic.

00:17:25.980 We live in a very relativistic culture.

00:17:27.820 We have your truth and my truth.

00:17:29.760 You can't tell me, man.

00:17:31.160 That's just your opinion.

00:17:32.100 We live in a culture that denies physical realities.

00:17:36.120 That's very much the case of the New Age movement.

00:17:38.240 The New Age movement draws on a lot of older heresies that say that the physical world is basically terrible,

00:17:44.120 that I have nothing to do with my body, that I am just merely my soul and my spirit.

00:17:49.280 The New Age movement denies the reality of suffering.

00:17:52.500 They say this whole world is an illusion.

00:17:54.480 This whole world of suffering that we have is just an illusion.

00:17:57.460 Forget about it.

00:17:58.040 It's not real.

00:17:59.300 And it denies the fall of man.

00:18:01.060 It denies the brokenness of human nature.

00:18:03.500 It says we don't need a savior.

00:18:04.900 We're all our own saviors and we're going to save ourselves.

00:18:09.060 That's certainly what we all believe in this culture.

00:18:11.300 I mean, that's what so many of the leftist movements are about.

00:18:15.120 Self-help, pride, even recycling, even environmentalism.

00:18:21.200 We are saving ourselves.

00:18:22.700 We are the change we've been waiting for.

00:18:24.560 We are going to cause the sea levels to stop rising, as Barack Obama said.

00:18:29.440 We are our own hope, as Barack Obama said, too.

00:18:34.600 What this movement is, is a Gnostic heresy. 0.94

00:18:38.420 But Gnostic dualism, I guess would be the technical term, or theosophy is another one of these technical terms.

00:18:45.440 We'll get into what that means in a second.

00:18:47.540 That is a defining feature of our culture.

00:18:50.880 You know where you see it most clearly.

00:18:52.400 Instead of just trying to define all these terms, I'll give an example.

00:18:55.360 An example of this is transgenderism. 0.99

00:18:58.780 So, like Gnostic dualism would be this idea that there is this hidden secret knowledge and the dualism would be the total difference between my soul and my body.

00:19:09.320 Traditionally, what we believe, what Christians believe, is that our soul and our body are unified.

00:19:16.220 We are neither simply our soul, and we're not simply our bodies.

00:19:19.920 We're human beings, and human beings have body and soul.

00:19:23.740 And then lots of various other ideas tell us we're either one or we're simply the other.

00:19:28.700 So, materialism tells us we're only our body.

00:19:31.600 And Gnosticism tells us we're only our soul.

00:19:34.760 In transgenderism, you see a little bit of each of these, right?

00:19:39.600 Transgenderism tells us if I am a man, I am by all visible evidence a man, but I think really deeply that I am a woman, then really I am a woman.

00:19:55.220 It's denying the physical reality for the metaphysical reality or the so-called spiritual reality.

00:20:01.620 Same thing, that comes directly out of New Ageism.

00:20:05.740 Or, you see the kind of schizophrenic other side of it in our culture, too, which is that we deny spiritual realities altogether. 0.98

00:20:13.740 Sex is just sex. Sex is nothing. 0.91

00:20:16.060 It's just two bodies smacking together, two people bumping uglies in a dark room.

00:20:20.340 Abortion is not killing a human being.

00:20:23.000 It's not ending a human life.

00:20:24.320 No, it's just, it's like getting your appendix taken out.

00:20:27.840 The baby isn't a baby.

00:20:29.340 It's just the product of pregnancy.

00:20:30.840 It's just a clump of cells, right?

00:20:32.800 A clump of cells.

00:20:33.940 Well, I'm a clump of cells, too, by that same logic.

00:20:37.380 All my body is is just a clump of cells.

00:20:39.800 But we know that the clump of cells, when it's a human being, has more than that.

00:20:43.720 We know that human beings have a spiritual component, too.

00:20:46.320 So our culture wants to do, wants to sort of have their cake and eat it, too.

00:20:50.900 Wants to say, on the one hand, physical reality is totally meaningless.

00:20:54.700 And if a man wants to be a woman, then he really is a woman. 0.83

00:20:57.180 But on the other hand, the culture denies spiritual reality altogether and says human beings are nothing more than a clump of cells.

00:21:05.320 And the New Age movement is responsible, really, I guess, for both of that, both sides of that cultural craziness.

00:21:13.200 And that's why Marianne Williamson is the most fun candidate. 0.99

00:21:16.700 She is speaking plainly.

00:21:19.500 She's speaking in big ideas.

00:21:20.740 She's speaking to a spiritual dimension. 0.99

00:21:22.580 That makes her automatically so much more interesting than the rest of those schmucks on that stage for the last two nights. 1.00

00:21:29.280 The only trouble with Marianne, my only hesitation with getting on the Orb Gang, is that she is peddling diabolical heresy. 1.00

00:21:35.180 And one of the problems with just making jokes about Marianne all the time, and even acknowledging some of the interesting intuitions that she has about politics, is people lose sight of the seductive and false and misery-inducing spirituality that she is embracing.

00:21:53.400 So we talk about this for all the other candidates.

00:21:55.400 We say their policies induce misery.

00:21:59.360 Socialism makes misery.

00:22:00.640 It happened in the Soviet Union, happened in China, happened in Venezuela, happened in North Korea, happened everywhere socialism has been tried.

00:22:07.220 It breeds human misery.

00:22:09.440 Those are misery-making policies.

00:22:11.260 The thing that makes Marianne a little different is she's not even really talking about policies.

00:22:15.380 She was asked about her health care plan, and she basically said, yeah, I kind of agree with everybody, the left and the right.

00:22:21.080 But what she is peddling is a misery-making spirituality.

00:22:25.820 And unfortunately, it's a spirituality that became very popular in the 70s, 80s, 90s.

00:22:32.060 I think it's kind of on the wane a little bit now.

00:22:34.340 But a lot of people have gotten caught up in it.

00:22:36.300 People like Oprah have been peddling it to housewives and middle-aged women who sip wine on Tuesday afternoons for a very long time.

00:22:44.980 And it's just a bad idea.

00:22:46.340 So we should speak clearly about the real dangers of Marianne Williamson.

00:22:51.940 We must embrace the memes, as funny as they are, with caution.

00:22:56.700 We must proceed with caution.

00:22:57.780 So how did the other candidates do who are living on this plane of existence rather than on whatever plane Marianne Williamson's living on?

00:23:05.000 Joe Biden had the worst night of all.

00:23:08.080 I mean, he just got clobbered.

00:23:10.280 He got clobbered by the other candidates, all of whom were going after him.

00:23:13.800 We expected that.

00:23:14.680 But what's really worse for him, much more devastating for his campaign, he clobbered himself.

00:23:23.480 So he's still the frontrunner.

00:23:25.180 Everyone's going after him.

00:23:26.480 And he just flailed around.

00:23:28.560 Here is the most frequent line that you heard from Joe Biden all night.

00:23:33.180 Anyway, my time's up.

00:23:34.360 Anyway, my time's up.

00:23:35.520 Anyway, my time's up.

00:23:36.680 Anyway, anyway, my time's up.

00:23:37.860 Joe Biden would be making this impassioned point.

00:23:40.020 He'd be responding to some criticism.

00:23:41.880 He'd be doing an okay job, a little meandering.

00:23:44.680 And then he just ran out of steam.

00:23:46.920 And this happened at the last debate, too.

00:23:49.300 He'd go, he'd say, and I believe this, and you're lying about this, and we achieved anyway.

00:23:53.280 My time's up.

00:23:53.840 You've got to stick the landing, buddy.

00:23:56.960 But he just ran out of words.

00:23:58.500 He ran out of ideas.

00:23:59.780 He ran out of energy.

00:24:01.400 He couldn't finish his attacks.

00:24:03.380 He seemed very dull and unfocused.

00:24:06.520 And he kept getting attacked for the Obama legacy, which was one of the more interesting aspects of this campaign.

00:24:13.740 Pretty much everyone was attacking Barack Obama.

00:24:16.800 And this shows you the trick of leftism.

00:24:19.500 So here is John Delaney, who is a totally forgettable candidate.

00:24:23.140 You don't need to remember his name.

00:24:24.140 But here's John Delaney arguing with Bernie Sanders about their health care plans.

00:24:30.520 Well, I'm right about this.

00:24:31.980 We can create a universal health care system to give everyone basic health care for free, and I have a proposal to do it.

00:24:38.320 But we don't have to go around and be the party of subtraction and telling half the country who has private health insurance that their health insurance is illegal.

00:24:45.920 So you remember when Obamacare was going to be universal health care?

00:24:49.300 Remember that?

00:24:49.920 That was it.

00:24:50.540 Once and for all, we're going to have Obamacare.

00:24:52.580 Now they're all assailing Barack Obama.

00:24:55.080 To hear them talk about Barack Obama during this debate, I thought, gosh, we've got to find this Obama guy, get him to run as a Republican.

00:25:01.720 This Obama guy sounds like the most conservative guy I've ever heard of.

00:25:05.180 Because this is what the left does.

00:25:06.700 The march leftward never stops.

00:25:09.500 It's never enough.

00:25:11.720 So Obamacare, that's nothing.

00:25:14.820 Now we need the real one.

00:25:16.140 This is going to be the real universal health care.

00:25:17.920 And then guess what?

00:25:18.360 In 10 years?

00:25:19.200 Five years?

00:25:20.260 We're going to need another, the real universal health care.

00:25:22.900 And they're just going to keep taking more and more and more.

00:25:25.120 Because here's the secret.

00:25:26.580 I'll let you in on the trick.

00:25:28.380 There cannot be universal health care in a free country if people can still opt out of it.

00:25:33.100 So if the government can't force you to buy a product that you don't want, then there's not going to be universal health care.

00:25:41.420 Because some people are going to say, I just don't want to pay for that.

00:25:44.000 That is what the aim is.

00:25:49.440 The end here is government control.

00:25:53.560 Most Americans like their current health care.

00:25:55.740 They don't want brand new, totally different health care.

00:25:59.780 And so the government is going to have to come in and force people.

00:26:02.240 And that's what this is all aiming towards.

00:26:04.180 So they're all going after Obama.

00:26:08.240 Joe Biden, I think, could have survived that.

00:26:09.860 He can't survive his own delirium.

00:26:14.200 I don't know.

00:26:14.500 Or senility.

00:26:15.460 Or he just was really foggy and hazy and out of it.

00:26:19.160 Here's the worst.

00:26:19.700 At the end of the night, Joe Biden couldn't even tell the difference between a URL web address and a text message.

00:26:27.260 He told people to go to Joe 30330, whatever that is.

00:26:32.200 If you agree with me, go to Joe 30330 and help me in this fight.

00:26:40.700 Thank you very much.

00:26:42.820 That was, he's referring to a text message.

00:26:44.640 He meant to say text Joe to the number 30330.

00:26:47.980 But everyone else had been saying, go to our campaign website.

00:26:50.400 So he said, go to.

00:26:51.480 He didn't know the difference between a text message and a website.

00:26:54.360 Because Joe is about 100 years old and neither very stable nor a genius.

00:26:58.960 So that wasn't even the worst part of it.

00:27:02.360 He got another number wrong in his closing statement.

00:27:04.860 He said that four more years of Donald Trump basically would be fine.

00:27:09.400 Okay.

00:27:09.600 That's all we have left.

00:27:10.500 But eight more years would be a disaster.

00:27:12.900 So if Donald Trump got rid of the 22nd Amendment and ran for a third term and got a third term, that would be bad.

00:27:19.900 But anything short of that would be just fine.

00:27:22.740 Four more years of Donald Trump will go down as an aberration.

00:27:26.980 Hard to overcome the damage he's done, but we can overcome it.

00:27:30.900 Eight more years of Donald Trump will change America in a fundamental way.

00:27:35.700 The America we know will no longer exist.

00:27:39.220 Shows you how smart President Trump was to label him Sleepy Joe.

00:27:42.760 We all thought it should be Creepy Joe or Lying Joe or Plagiarous Joe or whatever.

00:27:48.540 Sleepy Joe.

00:27:50.360 Sleepy Joe is the key here because he's actually losing it.

00:27:55.100 He's actually not that sharp.

00:27:57.040 So I think he's still the front runner.

00:27:58.560 He's still leading the pack.

00:27:59.600 But I think over time you're going to see those numbers slowly drop if other candidates are able to rise up.

00:28:05.300 Brings you to Julian Castro.

00:28:07.120 He's the former Secretary of HUD.

00:28:09.200 He has absolutely no business running for president.

00:28:11.180 He seems more like an SNL cast member playing a presidential candidate than an actual presidential candidate.

00:28:19.200 He had one great moment though last night where he accidentally exposed another major flaw of leftism.

00:28:27.060 So he described how his grandmother had diabetes and how she was on Medicare and how her diabetes kept getting worse.

00:28:36.400 And that's why everyone needs Medicare. 0.98

00:28:39.300 I know that this is something very personal for all Americans.

00:28:43.240 You know, I grew up with a grandmother that had diabetes and I watched as her condition got worse and worse.

00:28:48.200 That whole time she had Medicare.

00:28:50.400 I want to strengthen Medicare for the people who are on it and then expand it to anybody who wants it.

00:28:55.820 So that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, does it?

00:29:00.160 She had diabetes.

00:29:01.320 She was on Medicare.

00:29:02.320 Kept getting worse and worse and worse.

00:29:03.520 That's why you all need Medicare.

00:29:04.760 Not a great argument.

00:29:05.780 But this is what the left does.

00:29:06.880 There's a problem.

00:29:08.060 Then the left creates a government program.

00:29:10.080 Then the government program either doesn't help or makes things worse.

00:29:13.120 And then they say, see, this is evidence that we need more of that same government program.

00:29:18.160 I mean, he's kind of a nothing character, Julian Castro.

00:29:20.760 When he announced that he was running for president, I happened to be on a TV show.

00:29:24.480 I said, Michael, what's your reaction?

00:29:26.080 Julian Castro announced he's running for president.

00:29:27.740 I said, I had a ham and cheese omelet for breakfast.

00:29:30.100 Both of those are equally consequential for the 2020 presidential election.

00:29:34.620 Kamala Harris came in with a lot of momentum because she shanked Joe Biden at the last debate. 1.00

00:29:38.840 Everyone was rooting for Kamala, you know, among the kind of anti-Biden crowd.

00:29:44.120 Kamala had a really tough night because Tulsi came out and clobbered her campaign. 1.00

00:29:49.440 Listen to how Tulsi does it.

00:29:51.640 You took issue with Senator Harris confronting Vice President Biden at the last debate.

00:29:56.220 You called it a, quote, false accusation that Joe Biden is a racist.

00:30:00.400 What's your response?

00:30:01.340 I want to bring the conversation back to the broken criminal justice system

00:30:04.840 that is disproportionately negatively impacting black and brown people all across this country today.

00:30:11.640 Now, Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president.

00:30:16.820 But I'm deeply concerned about this record.

00:30:19.380 So I love what she does here just from a tactical standpoint.

00:30:22.900 She's asked a question.

00:30:24.260 She completely ignores it.

00:30:25.520 She then acknowledges that she's going to ignore it and she goes in for the kill on Kamala. 1.00

00:30:30.440 This was a masterful attack.

00:30:32.520 And here's how she finishes off the attack. 1.00

00:30:34.760 There are too many examples to cite, but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations 1.00

00:30:40.340 and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.

00:30:43.300 She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so.

00:30:53.760 She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California. 1.00

00:30:58.900 And she fought to keep cash bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way. 1.00

00:31:07.540 Absolutely devastating.

00:31:09.260 Just brutal.

00:31:10.520 So the new meme that's going around is that Kamala is a cop. 0.93

00:31:14.560 Kamala Harris is a cop.

00:31:16.000 And it's just like little kids getting arrested and Kamala laughing and, you know, people being sent to prison and she's laughing.

00:31:21.600 This doesn't need to hurt Kamala Harris, but the way it is playing out, it currently is hurting her.

00:31:29.680 So the reason it's hurting her is because she keeps flip-flopping.

00:31:33.860 Kamala Harris, on the one hand, says that she's not going to abolish private health insurance. 0.98

00:31:39.100 Then she says she is going to abolish private health insurance.

00:31:41.640 Then she says she doesn't want reparations.

00:31:43.240 Then she does want reparations.

00:31:44.300 She's trying to have two sides of every political issue. 1.00

00:31:47.120 I think this is because she's hired a lot of Hillary Clinton's old campaign staff. 0.96

00:31:50.500 Not a great idea.

00:31:52.040 One of the worst run campaigns in history.

00:31:53.800 You probably don't want to hire her old staffers. 1.00

00:31:56.100 So she's also flip-flopped on her biography.

00:31:59.820 And when she started running, she refused to acknowledge that she was a prosecutor, which is her whole career, right?

00:32:05.060 She graduated law school.

00:32:06.400 She's a prosecutor. 0.98

00:32:07.560 She then becomes the attorney general.

00:32:08.960 So she's the top prosecutor. 0.99

00:32:10.360 Then she's in the Senate for five minutes. 1.00

00:32:11.920 And now she's running for president. 1.00

00:32:12.900 Her whole career is as a prosecutor.

00:32:15.440 And yet she wanted to run away from that because Democrats hate law enforcement right now. 1.00

00:32:19.860 They don't want to run on law enforcement. 0.63

00:32:22.300 So she's just become nothing.

00:32:24.920 Then she started to embrace the prosecutor angle.

00:32:27.740 So she said, I'm going to prosecute the case against Donald Trump.

00:32:30.960 I think this is the smart play.

00:32:32.340 You can't run away from yourself.

00:32:34.780 All you have to run on is who you are.

00:32:37.260 If you're going to run on being someone else, they're going to just vote for someone else.

00:32:41.380 You've got to run on who you are.

00:32:43.780 And so if she's smart and if her campaign is smart, she's going to start running on this prosecutor thing again, own it, and go after Tulsi Gabbard because the best defense is a good offense. 1.00

00:32:55.420 By the way, I mean, if the Harris campaign is watching, just remember, even though the left wing of the Democratic Party is now very anti-law enforcement, cops are the third most trusted institution in the country, according to a number of polls that have come out.

00:33:13.160 The only more trusted institutions are the military and small business.

00:33:18.400 Cops are a good play.

00:33:19.520 Democrats are running against all of this popular stuff.

00:33:22.400 They're running on the least popular.

00:33:23.460 They're running on reparations.

00:33:24.580 29% of Americans support it.

00:33:26.480 Two-thirds of Americans oppose it.

00:33:28.100 They're running on open borders.

00:33:30.380 Immigration enforcement is the number one chief political issue in the country, according to a Gallup poll that came out just two weeks ago.

00:33:38.860 And yet they're running on open borders, very unpopular.

00:33:41.040 They're running on free health care for illegal aliens, very unpopular. 1.00

00:33:45.260 They're running on all of this stupid stuff. 1.00

00:33:48.220 They're running on taking health care away from 150 million people. 1.00

00:33:51.320 They're running against the American flag.

00:33:53.180 Bad idea.

00:33:54.020 Very unpopular.

00:33:55.220 Why?

00:33:56.420 Why are they doing this?

00:33:57.680 The party knows this is a bad idea.

00:34:00.380 The party knows that the party, that's why they opened the debate with the presentation of colors and a major star-spangled banner singing.

00:34:06.800 They just know it doesn't play well in Peoria when all these left-wing candidates are spitting on the flag.

00:34:12.500 But the candidates themselves are just wrapped up in this leftism because they have nothing real to argue about in the current political climate.

00:34:24.440 If they're just going to oppose Trump, then they have nothing real to argue about.

00:34:28.640 If they're just going to oppose Trump, the economy is going well, unemployment is very low, we have relative peace abroad.

00:34:34.520 Things are just going well.

00:34:36.720 And so they have to argue about these fantasies.

00:34:39.660 And this opens up the Democrats to a lot of vulnerabilities.

00:34:44.640 The Democrat fantasy breaks through.

00:34:46.140 They say that they're representing all black people.

00:34:48.600 They're representing all racial minorities.

00:34:50.060 They held that debate in Detroit, one of, I think, the single blackest city in America, just as a percentage of population.

00:34:57.500 It was the whitest audience I've ever seen.

00:35:00.320 There were no black people on the stage the first night, two black people on the stage the second night.

00:35:04.900 That's out of 20 candidates.

00:35:06.320 I counted like two or three black people in the whole audience.

00:35:09.240 Only Democrats could fill an audience in Detroit with basically only white people.

00:35:13.240 The only black people we saw really were the people performing the national anthem on the stage.

00:35:18.380 It's just that fantasy of Democrats.

00:35:21.340 There's one really important aspect of this debate.

00:35:23.720 There's one really healthy thing going on in this debate, which we'll get to in a second, then we'll get to the mailbag.

00:35:27.880 But first, I've got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube.

00:35:30.340 Go to dailywire.com.

00:35:31.980 You get me.

00:35:33.180 You get the Andrew Klavan show.

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00:35:35.340 You get the Matt Walsh show.

00:35:36.380 You get to ask questions in the mailbag, which will be coming up.

00:35:39.400 You get everything.

00:35:40.320 And you get the leftist-tears tumbler.

00:35:42.820 You get the leftist-tears tumbler for when the Orb Gang and Marianne Williamson becomes the nominee.

00:35:48.560 You get the leftist-tears tumbler for when Tulsi Gabbard shanks Kamala Harris on stage and Joe Biden can't remember his own name.

00:35:54.460 You need the leftist-tears tumbler or you will drown watching the remaining 10 Democratic presidential primary debates.

00:36:01.440 Go to dailywire.com.

00:36:02.460 We'll be right back with a lot more.

00:36:03.480 There is one really healthy thing going on in this Democratic presidential primary, which is you are seeing something that started with the Republicans in 2016 and it's continuing now in 2020.

00:36:23.900 You're seeing the beginnings of a political realignment.

00:36:27.200 So you're seeing old orthodoxies, political orthodoxy, being smashed, old ideological certitudes being destroyed.

00:36:37.220 And this was obviously more apparent in the Republican primary in 2016, but you're seeing it particularly with Tulsi Gabbard in 2020.

00:36:45.400 Here is Tulsi Gabbard making an argument on trade that sounds a whole lot like Donald Trump's argument on trade,

00:36:53.580 which sounds a whole lot different from the old Republican argument on trade.

00:36:57.440 And hers is a whole lot different from the current Democratic argument on trade.

00:37:01.180 Here she is.

00:37:01.960 For fair trade, not trade deals that give away the sovereignty of the American people and our country,

00:37:09.360 that give away American jobs and that threaten our environment. 0.88

00:37:13.460 These are the three main issues with that massive trade deal, the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

00:37:18.780 I think the central one was the fact that it gave away our sovereignty to a panel of international corporations whose rulings would supersede any domestic law that we would pass,

00:37:30.260 either a federal law or a state or a local law.

00:37:33.140 This is extremely dangerous and goes against the very values that we have as a country.

00:37:37.840 What to speak of the fact that it would have a negative impact on domestic jobs and that it lacked clear protections for our environment.

00:37:44.720 These are the things that we have to keep at the forefront as we look to enact fair trade deals with other countries to make sure that we continue to be a thriving part of our global economy.

00:37:57.240 This is a highly conservative argument that she just, I mean, look, she used the word sovereignty.

00:38:01.960 All the other candidates on stage were talking about open borders.

00:38:04.420 We don't even have a right to decide who comes into the country. 0.99

00:38:07.120 And Tulsi starts talking about sovereignty and she's talking about it, particularly on trade.

00:38:10.900 And conservatives, with a short memory, get this wrong.

00:38:15.620 We have this idea that conservatism demands total free trade.

00:38:21.060 Free trade is conservatism.

00:38:22.980 Historically speaking, that isn't true.

00:38:25.160 That's been true for the last four decades or so, that the left has been anti-free trade and the right has been pro-free trade.

00:38:31.500 But that's only been true for a few decades.

00:38:36.440 Traditionally speaking, the right is anti-free trade.

00:38:38.840 The GOP was actually founded against free trade.

00:38:42.640 It was the protectionist party.

00:38:44.200 Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican president, said, give me a protective tariff and I'll give you the greatest nation on earth.

00:38:51.340 Free trade became what you would call the neoliberal consensus beginning during the Reagan era, continuing through the Bushes and through Bill Clinton too.

00:39:00.800 This was a consensus among both parties.

00:39:03.340 Now we're dealing with some of the political consequences of that.

00:39:05.840 There were many advantages that came through that sort of global free trade and there were some negative consequences as well.

00:39:13.160 And what we're debating now, what Tulsi Gabbard is bringing up, is a really healthy discussion, which is you'll hear some people, the real free trade at all costs, can't even possibly question it.

00:39:24.580 What they'll say is free trade works and the other one doesn't work.

00:39:28.340 Well, economics doesn't make moral arguments.

00:39:32.320 Economics is a social science.

00:39:34.180 Just as this does that.

00:39:35.480 Talks about efficiency.

00:39:36.940 But when we're talking about politics, we're talking about moral arguments.

00:39:42.480 Not just what the policies do, but what the policies should do, what policies we should enact.

00:39:48.440 And what Tulsi is bringing up is basically, who cares about an efficient policy to increase, even if it does increase GDP by some percentage, if you lose your national sovereignty in the process?

00:40:02.300 Who cares about it if you lose protections for some of your workers in the process?

00:40:08.560 People lose their jobs and they get addicted on opioids and they kill themselves.

00:40:13.080 Who cares about increasing GDP slightly or having more efficient markets if you lose your environment, your natural environment?

00:40:20.500 These are debates that cut across what we would call the left and the right of the last 30 or 40 years.

00:40:27.100 Now, she could be making that argument in a GOP debate. 0.53

00:40:29.760 Maybe she could, or maybe she should rather.

00:40:31.660 Trump basically did make that argument.

00:40:35.620 That's very healthy.

00:40:36.540 Now, we only left a little bit of time for the mailbag, unfortunately.

00:40:40.000 Maybe we'll try to have a few more mailbag questions tomorrow.

00:40:42.500 We've had an issue on the website, a little bit of a tech glitch.

00:40:45.840 So I didn't get any mailbag questions in after, I think, July 25th.

00:40:50.460 If you sent in any mailbag questions after that, put them on my Twitter right now.

00:40:55.100 I have a thread going on Twitter.

00:40:56.620 You can add those questions.

00:40:57.540 We'll try to get to a few more tomorrow as well if we have time.

00:41:00.280 But let's get through the ones that we have now while we can.

00:41:02.960 From Margo, what happened to the stylish Maddow glasses?

00:41:07.740 Also, happy 400th episode.

00:41:11.200 Thank you for happy 400th.

00:41:12.620 I can't believe it's been that long and Ben hasn't thrown me out the window yet.

00:41:16.040 As for the Maddow glasses, I just kept getting mistaken for that MSNBC host.

00:41:22.240 And I couldn't take it anymore.

00:41:24.040 So I took the glasses off.

00:41:25.340 But I'll put a poll up on Twitter.

00:41:26.600 I want to know your opinion.

00:41:28.500 Should I embrace my inner Maddow-ness and put the glasses back on?

00:41:33.800 Or should I remain in my slightly more masculine, slightly more conservative aesthetic and keep the glasses off?

00:41:42.380 I'll put the question up on Twitter after the show.

00:41:44.640 From Daniel, what are your opinions on the $2 trillion an hour minimum wage?

00:41:49.320 Well, I think it makes just about as much sense as a $15 or $20 an hour minimum wage.

00:41:53.480 You make a great point, which is that if I could ask the candidates one question, all of the Democratic candidates,

00:42:03.540 I would ask them, do you support a $30 per hour minimum wage?

00:42:09.120 Maybe I'd make it even, you've got to find the right line.

00:42:11.700 You don't want it to seem ridiculous, but you want to get the point across.

00:42:14.320 Maybe I'd say, do you support a $40 an hour minimum wage?

00:42:18.460 And they would have to either say yes, because the logic of their current argument is if you have a minimum wage,

00:42:26.620 that basically just creates money to fall out of the sky.

00:42:29.900 Or they would have to, if they were sort of sane and wanted to reach sane people,

00:42:34.580 they would have to explain why a $30 or $40 an hour minimum wage doesn't make any sense.

00:42:40.100 The trouble with that is, the same reasons why a $30 or $40 an hour minimum wage don't make sense

00:42:45.340 apply to a $15 or $20 an hour minimum wage, which is, there's no such thing as a minimum wage.

00:42:51.980 The only real minimum wage is zero.

00:42:54.540 You are not entitled to a job.

00:42:57.480 Real minimum wage is zero.

00:42:58.720 And when you raise the minimum wage too high, when you really, when you raise it at all,

00:43:03.200 then you raise the cost of labor.

00:43:04.640 You then make it more likely that someone will invest in capital.

00:43:08.780 And you reduce the labor force for any particular business.

00:43:12.900 It's not like raising the minimum wage all of a sudden gives businesses 20% more money to spend on labor.

00:43:19.440 They just, they have the same amount of money, so they can pay either more people or fewer people.

00:43:24.080 Or they can buy more robots to do more of the jobs that the people were doing.

00:43:29.280 That would be the question that I would ask them.

00:43:30.880 And I'd be curious to hear their thoughts on that $2 trillion minimum wage from Charles.

00:43:36.560 In the absence of a divine power or prior consent from the child prior to conception, is conception not immoral?

00:43:44.980 Does this not mean that we are either immoral as a society or must accept that God gives us permission to procreate?

00:43:52.020 Well, no, I think the problem that you're coming up against is you're elevating consent as the most important, if not the sole moral category, which is what our culture does right now.

00:44:04.620 It's what the left does.

00:44:05.780 They say everything is perfectly moral as long as you consent.

00:44:09.020 You can do whatever you want.

00:44:10.140 Do whatever you want with your body.

00:44:11.360 Do whatever you want with each other.

00:44:12.740 As long as everybody consents, then it's moral.

00:44:15.700 But that isn't true.

00:44:17.320 I can do plenty of immoral things by consent.

00:44:19.860 If I, you know, it's like Fifty Shades of Grey.

00:44:24.500 If a man smacks his wife around, but they consent to it, does that make it right to smack your wife around? 0.84

00:44:30.780 No.

00:44:31.580 Of course not.

00:44:32.800 It's still quite wrong.

00:44:34.520 Consent is insufficient.

00:44:35.540 And this gets to a broader problem that the libertarian right and the left have embraced, which is that they put consent at the basis of their politics.

00:44:47.100 I enter society by my free consent.

00:44:49.900 Otherwise, I'd be living in the woods somewhere.

00:44:51.900 I engage in a social contract.

00:44:54.080 That was John Locke's idea.

00:44:55.580 But these are wrong ideas.

00:44:58.260 They don't exist.

00:44:59.160 We don't, in the state of nature, we're not living as atoms in the world, all on our own individuality.

00:45:04.840 That is just a false premise in politics.

00:45:07.920 Consent is not the key.

00:45:09.980 Duty is the key.

00:45:11.280 Responsibility is the key.

00:45:13.100 Loyalty is the key.

00:45:14.940 Affection and love are the key.

00:45:17.020 I don't own my life in the sense that I didn't create my life.

00:45:21.300 I'm not responsible for the creation of my life.

00:45:24.060 I have to thank my parents for that.

00:45:27.800 They have to thank their parents, and ultimately we have to thank our heavenly parents.

00:45:31.960 I owe something to my parents.

00:45:34.240 I owe them respect.

00:45:35.840 I owe them some loyalty.

00:45:36.960 I owe them love.

00:45:38.840 That's something I'm born into the world with.

00:45:40.520 I never consented to that obligation, but I owe it to them anyway.

00:45:44.800 When you switch your politics from a politics of consent to a politics of duty, from a politics of rights and entitlement to a politics of affection, duty, loyalty, responsibility, and respect, the world starts to make a whole lot more sense.

00:46:01.540 Take one more question.

00:46:02.700 Aaron, is it okay for Christians to visit and pray at non-Christian spiritual sites, Buddhist temples, for example?

00:46:08.500 I have visited plenty of spiritual sites of other religions.

00:46:13.760 I've visited temples in Varanasi, India, Hindu temples.

00:46:17.140 I've obviously been to different Protestant denominations and Jewish denominations, things like that.

00:46:23.520 Jewish temples, rather.

00:46:24.660 I think it's fine to visit those things as a sort of cultural or historic curiosity to expand your knowledge, but you should not attend those worship services.

00:46:36.920 I think it's perfectly fine when you're walking past a temple in India to say a prayer to Jesus, but I wouldn't attend those spiritual services.

00:46:47.120 I think that's probably a bad idea.

00:46:49.520 I don't think you should say, well, I'm really curious about this other religious service, so I'm going to go and participate in that.

00:46:58.060 I think that would be sinful.

00:46:59.680 I don't think that's okay at all.

00:47:01.860 Now, we're about to see the extreme of that in politics because Marianne Williamson is about to just cast orbs and crystals all over all of the culture. 1.00

00:47:10.700 And so I guess when you watch a Democratic presidential debate, in a certain sense, you are participating in another religious service.

00:47:16.400 So you've got to be careful about that.

00:47:17.720 But I think that's the difference.

00:47:18.900 If you are learning about something, if you're studying something in a scholarly or academic way, that's one thing.

00:47:24.360 If you are actually participating in it, I think there you're going to run into a little spiritual trouble.

00:47:28.680 That's our show.

00:47:29.500 We'll try to get to more mailbag questions today because I feel like I cheated you all by talking too long about 2020 and the Democratic debate.

00:47:36.400 So we'll get to a little bit more tomorrow if you haven't checked it out and you haven't been able to submit a question.

00:47:41.620 Go do it on Twitter.

00:47:42.460 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:47:43.940 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:47:45.240 I'll see you tomorrow for a rare Friday show.

00:47:47.980 See you then.

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The Michael Knowles Show - August 01, 2019

Ep. 390 - Dark Psychic Democrats

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