The Michael Knowles Show - August 05, 2019


Ep. 392 - Very Terrible People On Both Sides


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On this episode of the Michael Knowles Show, host Michael Kinsley talks about the two recent mass shootings in the U.S. and how both sides of the political aisle reacted to them, and how they can be prevented in the future.

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00:00:37.640 In El Paso, Texas, an eco-fascist slaughtered 20 people in a shopping mall shooting.
00:00:43.560 The next day in Dayton, Ohio, a socialist, Satanist leftist slaughtered nine people, including his own sister at a bar.
00:00:51.340 Leftist partisans rushed to blame Trump and conservatives.
00:00:54.320 Conservatives, eager to fight the unfair attacks, want to disavow any connection whatsoever to the ideology of the El Paso shooter.
00:01:01.820 We will examine the reality.
00:01:03.520 There are very terrible people on both sides.
00:01:06.660 How could these attacks have been prevented?
00:01:08.480 How can they be prevented in the future?
00:01:10.840 President Trump weighs in, and we weigh in on his weighing in.
00:01:14.220 Then, the Democratic Socialists of America try to topple capitalism at their national convention, but fail to even finish the announcements without infighting over pronouns and phony grievances.
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00:01:30.240 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:32.040 So much to get to today.
00:01:41.820 Obviously, horrific shootings over the weekend in Texas and in Ohio, and the way it's played out has been so predictable.
00:01:49.640 You had these two shootings, apparently both motivated by ideology, one very clearly by ideology, and that's a mostly right-wing ideology, though not a totally right-wing ideology.
00:02:00.440 Then, the second shooting appears to have been motivated by an almost exclusively left-wing ideology.
00:02:05.720 And in response, the left, not the right, the left blamed its political opponents on the right.
00:02:13.760 This was not a both sides are throwing blame.
00:02:16.240 The left totally unfairly blamed the right for this, and then the right, in reacting to it, wanted to disavow any connection, obviously, to the Texas shooting in particular.
00:02:26.720 And so they said the guy's ideology has nothing to do with conservatism, has nothing to do with the right.
00:02:31.660 The reality is a little more complicated than that, and the hard truth is there are terrible people on both sides of the aisle.
00:02:39.280 So we'll get into a little bit of exactly what motivated each shooting, because the broad narrative is what the left wants to promote.
00:02:49.680 So the left just wants its own narrative, no details, no specificity, so that it can ram through its own policy goals.
00:02:56.620 Details are the enemy of the left, and we'll get into the details, and we'll get into Trump's response, which I thought generally was very good, though there were a couple issues with it.
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00:04:25.140 Let's get into the details here.
00:04:27.000 What happened in El Paso?
00:04:28.920 This was the first shooting.
00:04:30.740 A 21-year-old shooter opened fire at the Cielo Vista Mall.
00:04:34.900 At least 20 people were killed.
00:04:36.900 Hopefully no more people are killed.
00:04:38.340 A lot of people were injured, though.
00:04:39.720 27 injured.
00:04:41.280 The shooter posted a manifesto online, and it appears to be authentic, and it's circulated around the Internet now.
00:04:47.980 Websites are trying to take it down.
00:04:50.120 Some people are saying, don't read the manifesto.
00:04:52.440 I don't believe that.
00:04:53.620 That's not my reaction to it.
00:04:55.300 I always read the manifesto.
00:04:57.420 I always want to know as much information as I can as to why these people committed these crimes.
00:05:03.620 You can't always believe the shooters.
00:05:06.100 Often they're a little crazy.
00:05:07.460 Often they're liars.
00:05:09.360 But to just say that it's senseless violence is to put your head in the sand.
00:05:15.100 Because when these shooters tell you that they have a reason for what they're doing,
00:05:19.480 we ought to at least take that seriously.
00:05:21.220 When the 9-11 hijackers say, we have a reason that we're doing what we're doing,
00:05:25.200 it's because we believe our religion is telling us to topple these two towers.
00:05:29.860 You at least have to take that seriously.
00:05:32.440 You can't just put your fingers in your ears and say, la, la, la.
00:05:35.120 I don't believe it.
00:05:36.100 It's senseless.
00:05:37.180 So what does the shooter say motivated him in El Paso?
00:05:41.880 The manifesto is short.
00:05:43.040 It's about four pages.
00:05:43.760 And the ideology that he embraces is something called eco-fascism.
00:05:50.500 Now, the left is saying this is a completely right-wing ideology.
00:05:55.360 The left is blaming Trump for this shooter.
00:05:58.740 The shooter himself says, don't blame Trump.
00:06:00.360 I believe these things long before Donald Trump ever entered the political scene.
00:06:05.820 The reality of this ideology is that it's a little bit right-wing and it's a little bit left-wing.
00:06:11.560 So basically, neither side right now is correct.
00:06:14.160 The left is saying it's all right-wing.
00:06:15.760 A lot of conservatives are saying this guy has nothing to do with the right.
00:06:18.240 He's only a leftist.
00:06:19.620 Neither is really telling the truth.
00:06:22.280 Or neither, at least, is really getting it right.
00:06:24.280 They might think they're telling the truth, but they're not.
00:06:27.900 Eco-fascism does not neatly fit on the left or on the right.
00:06:31.920 So in some ways, it's very associated with the right.
00:06:34.680 It's anti-illegal immigration.
00:06:36.640 It's anti-immigration broadly.
00:06:38.920 It has this very racist category, which, again, doesn't cut right or left.
00:06:44.400 But it has this very racial, bigoted category, which is he's anti-race mixing.
00:06:50.520 He's not exactly a white supremacist, but he's certainly a white nationalist or a white segregationist.
00:06:56.340 He wants there to be different areas of the country for different races.
00:07:00.500 So at the base of his politics is racial essentialism.
00:07:05.740 This would be categorized under the label alt-right.
00:07:09.520 If you want to know more about what the alt-right actually is, not just what Hillary Clinton pretends that it is,
00:07:14.160 but if you want to know what the term at least once used to mean, you can check out my PragerU video on this topic.
00:07:20.980 Alt stands for alternative.
00:07:23.120 It's an alternative version of the right to what we would consider a more traditional conservatism.
00:07:30.060 I mean, they're calling it right-wing.
00:07:31.960 He identifies as right-wing.
00:07:33.900 In many of his policy prescriptions or policy preferences, he probably would be considered right-wing.
00:07:40.200 So in that way, the right does have an association with him.
00:07:44.180 But the eco part is this intense environmentalism, which would be these days exclusively found on the left.
00:07:51.820 And it's a fascism rooted in the environment.
00:07:55.360 So he totally buys into the global warming alarmism.
00:07:58.760 He says corporations are destroying our environment.
00:08:01.160 Politicians of both parties are destroying our environment.
00:08:03.440 We need to save our environment now.
00:08:05.340 Now, it's an intense environmentalism, which is strongly on the left.
00:08:11.000 Though this kind of environmentalism has had a tie to fascism for a long time.
00:08:15.780 There's what has now become a cliche, which is the observation that Hitler was a vegetarian.
00:08:21.160 He was a fascist.
00:08:22.640 He killed all of these people.
00:08:23.760 He was a horrible mass murderer.
00:08:25.720 And yet, he wouldn't kill an animal because he was a vegetarian.
00:08:28.660 There is a strain of fascism that embraces this.
00:08:34.060 Because fascism, especially as the Nazis talked about it, was blood and soil.
00:08:39.320 So the idea that it's not just about the race, but it's about the geography, the soil.
00:08:43.140 We need to protect our natural environment.
00:08:45.960 And it can be taken to this insane extreme, which is basically sacrificing even our own humanity
00:08:52.340 to preserve the collective natural environment.
00:08:56.520 That's the ideology.
00:08:57.640 That's about as, I mean, we could go into this for two hours, but I think that's the broad view of the ideology.
00:09:03.300 It's got a lot of components of the right, this love of tradition, want to preserve the nation.
00:09:09.060 It's got a lot of aspects of the left, this hyper-environmentalism, even at the expense of human flourishing.
00:09:16.380 That, beyond the ideology, what can we look to?
00:09:19.480 Well, like so many mass shooters, this guy comes from a broken home.
00:09:24.440 Before I even knew it, I read the manifesto and I said, you know, before I exclusively ascribe this to ideology,
00:09:30.520 let me just Google shooter's name, divorce.
00:09:35.040 Guess what?
00:09:35.740 The parents of this guy divorced when he was 13.
00:09:41.820 The father has written extensively about his 40 years of drug addiction.
00:09:45.980 So obviously the father was just a total degenerate for much of this kid's life.
00:09:52.380 And this often happens.
00:09:53.940 Beneath the kind of political level, there is a cultural level.
00:09:57.640 Something just wasn't right with this kid, something, a kid now adult, but when he was a kid,
00:10:03.220 certainly when they divorced, something was broken in the home.
00:10:07.500 We see this beyond just mass shootings.
00:10:09.600 We see this in the regular homicides that happen all the time.
00:10:12.780 We see this in gang violence.
00:10:14.840 Often one explanation of gang violence is these kids come from broken homes.
00:10:18.240 They have no fathers at home.
00:10:19.400 Yep.
00:10:19.740 Looks like that may have been at play here.
00:10:22.520 Now, in this case, the suspect was apprehended alive.
00:10:25.740 So he wasn't killed, even though he wished to be killed in his manifesto.
00:10:29.300 So he'll likely face the death penalty as he should.
00:10:32.440 And we'll get into what President Trump has to say about that in just a second.
00:10:35.100 But moving over to the next day's mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio.
00:10:38.560 Same thing.
00:10:39.420 Young guy, 24-year-old young man opened fire in an Ohio bar on Sunday.
00:10:44.840 At least nine people dead, including his sister, and 27 people injured.
00:10:49.260 Now, on the surface, these events look kind of similar.
00:10:53.880 Young white men.
00:10:55.820 So the media, irresponsible media, irresponsible Democratic candidates for president,
00:11:00.360 irresponsible leftist pundits, have been saying they're both obvious white supremacy.
00:11:05.340 There's no evidence that the second shooter was a white supremacist or a fascist
00:11:09.520 or in any way associated with the right.
00:11:11.880 Actually, when you look at his social media pages, it looks as though he was a radical leftist.
00:11:16.820 He described himself as a Satanist.
00:11:18.680 He described himself as a socialist.
00:11:20.600 He described himself as a leftist.
00:11:22.500 This is what he said.
00:11:23.140 He wrote, quote,
00:11:23.900 I want socialism and I'll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.
00:11:29.660 When President Trump won in 2016, he said, this is bad.
00:11:33.160 He wrote, quote, vote blue for God's sake.
00:11:36.020 He wrote F. John McCain.
00:11:38.620 Bizarrely, this guy actually wrote in favor of gun control and leftist gun policies.
00:11:43.620 After the Parkland shooting happened, he tweeted out, quote,
00:11:46.620 quote, this is America, guns on every corner, guns in every house, no freedom but that to
00:11:51.120 kill.
00:11:51.580 He apparently tweeted to Rob Portman, the Republican senator, quote, hey, Rob, how much did they
00:11:56.460 pay you to look the other way?
00:11:57.880 17 kids are dead.
00:11:59.120 If not now, when?
00:12:01.780 Obviously, something snapped in this guy's ideology or in his mental faculties or likely
00:12:07.700 both.
00:12:09.040 Who does he endorse?
00:12:10.220 Elizabeth Warren.
00:12:11.100 He says, Warren, I'd happily vote for.
00:12:13.140 He said, kill every fascist.
00:12:15.700 There you see a lot more violence creeping in.
00:12:17.880 Cut the fences down, meaning the border wall and the border detention centers.
00:12:22.020 Slice ice tires, immigration and customs enforcement.
00:12:25.480 Throw bolt cutters over the fences.
00:12:27.340 And he listed his pronouns as he and him.
00:12:30.200 So this guy was a radical leftist.
00:12:34.120 You don't see that in the mainstream news coverage.
00:12:36.380 But there's not a hint of anything right wing or of white supremacy or any of that.
00:12:43.760 He's obviously a radical leftist.
00:12:48.100 Now, despicably, cynical leftist politicians and pundits and commentators are blaming President
00:12:54.280 Trump and, quote, white supremacy for these shootings.
00:12:57.080 In reality, one of these shootings was perpetrated by probably a Trump supporter, anti-immigration
00:13:06.700 advocate and white supremacist and all those other things.
00:13:10.720 But at least on the policy level, we know he was opposed to immigration.
00:13:15.160 So I guess very likely he would prefer President Trump to some open borders politician, right?
00:13:20.800 That's one of the shooters.
00:13:21.620 And then the other shooting was perpetrated by a radical leftist who explicitly endorsed
00:13:29.320 Elizabeth Warren.
00:13:31.440 Now, in reality, neither of these were caused by Trump or Warren or Bernie Sanders or any
00:13:37.820 of these other politicians.
00:13:39.340 These people are responsible for their own actions.
00:13:42.280 But that didn't stop the left and just the left, exclusively the left, from using these barely
00:13:48.700 cold dead bodies to push their own hack, cynical political agendas.
00:13:53.480 Here's what Elizabeth Warren tweeted out, quote, we need to call out white nationalism for what
00:13:58.240 it is, domestic terrorism.
00:14:00.580 It is a threat to the United States and we've seen its devastating toll this weekend.
00:14:04.180 And we need to call out the president himself for advancing racism and white supremacy.
00:14:09.360 Okay.
00:14:09.960 If you believe that, if you believe that premise, which I don't, I don't believe the premise
00:14:14.140 that when mass shooters quote politicians, the politicians are responsible for the shooting.
00:14:20.340 But if you believe that premise, then you need to apologize for the shooting in Ohio,
00:14:26.620 don't you?
00:14:27.520 You need to bear responsibility for the shooting in Ohio, Elizabeth Warren, because the shooter
00:14:32.340 in Ohio explicitly endorsed you.
00:14:36.540 Now she won't do that because she doesn't care, doesn't care about the victims, doesn't care 1.00
00:14:41.840 about the policy, doesn't care about any of it other than promoting herself in the 2020
00:14:46.300 Democratic presidential primaries in a way that is absolutely disgusting, even by the
00:14:52.360 measure of presidential politics.
00:14:53.980 I understand in presidential political campaigns, people are going to just use and exploit events
00:15:00.620 for disgusting purposes.
00:15:02.260 This is especially disgusting.
00:15:03.760 And Elizabeth Warren should be ashamed of herself. 0.99
00:15:06.540 If she had the capacity for shame, she would feel shame.
00:15:09.460 But she doesn't.
00:15:10.380 She's the whitest woman in America who pretended to be an Indian Native American for her entire 1.00
00:15:15.340 career in a way that would take jobs away from Native Americans, in a way to look with
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00:15:26.060 treatment at Harvard and in the Texas bar.
00:15:28.180 I mean, that sort of shameless person would absolutely have no problem using barely cold
00:15:34.200 dead bodies for her own political purposes. 0.99
00:15:37.080 But she's not the only one.
00:15:38.260 I don't mean only to single out Elizabeth Warren here.
00:15:41.160 AOC and Bernie Sanders get in on the disgusting exploitation before President Trump shows up as 0.76
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00:17:31.120 So it's not just the shameless Elizabeth Warren exploiting dead bodies for her own personal 0.99
00:17:35.640 gain.
00:17:36.780 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did it too. 0.98
00:17:38.680 She tweeted out,
00:17:39.340 In response to the suggestion that video games and other cultural aspects that celebrate
00:17:45.540 violence might have played some role in this shooting, she tweets out,
00:17:49.940 Video games aren't causing mass shootings.
00:17:52.100 White supremacy is.
00:17:53.780 Sadly, the GOP refuses to acknowledge that because their strategy relies on rallying a white
00:17:58.460 supremacist base.
00:17:59.780 That's why the president has stadiums of people chanting, send her back and targets Congress 1.00
00:18:04.060 members of color.
00:18:06.680 Okay.
00:18:07.280 If you believe this premise, if you believe this premise that anyone who holds an idea
00:18:13.380 that is also held, well, actually, no, I'm sorry.
00:18:18.340 What is the idea?
00:18:18.920 The idea is white supremacy, right?
00:18:21.440 So I'm sorry.
00:18:22.400 I got, I must've gotten a little confused there for a second because she's ascribing white
00:18:26.260 supremacy to President Trump.
00:18:27.480 President Trump has repeatedly condemned white supremacy, right?
00:18:31.780 He's repeatedly condemned racism.
00:18:33.800 How many times a year does this guy condemn racism?
00:18:36.240 Which conservative member of Congress, of the Senate, the president, which governor,
00:18:40.940 which of them says, I'm a white supremacist?
00:18:43.680 I love white supremacy.
00:18:45.560 None of them.
00:18:46.420 Zero.
00:18:47.060 Boop.
00:18:47.460 Nada.
00:18:47.920 None of them do.
00:18:48.840 But let's take her premise at its word and let's just, let's just replace white supremacy
00:18:53.520 with socialism.
00:18:56.420 Yes.
00:18:57.120 Socialism.
00:18:57.620 Okay.
00:18:57.780 Because we know that the shooter in Ohio was a leftist, socialist, Satanist.
00:19:02.520 Okay.
00:19:02.680 Let's see.
00:19:03.360 Video games aren't causing mass shootings.
00:19:05.540 Socialism is.
00:19:08.040 Oh, you remember actually the guy who shot up the congressional baseball game was a Bernie
00:19:11.100 bro socialist.
00:19:13.560 Sadly, the GOP Democrats refuse to acknowledge that because their strategy relies on rallying
00:19:21.060 a socialist base.
00:19:23.420 That's why the congresswoman from Queens hosts rooms of people chanting, I don't know, socialism, 0.63
00:19:32.360 bring us socialism, tax the rich, soak the rich, and targets Congress members of baseball
00:19:38.640 games.
00:19:39.600 See how easy that is?
00:19:41.160 See, in the case of AOC's tweet, it didn't make any sense because no conservative is embracing
00:19:47.060 white supremacy.
00:19:47.960 But the shooter in Ohio was an avowed socialist.
00:19:54.200 She is embracing socialism.
00:19:56.420 She's promoting socialism.
00:19:57.740 Tom Perez says she's the head, the future of the Democratic Party.
00:20:02.220 So are we going to blame AOC?
00:20:03.620 Are we going to blame Bernie Sanders?
00:20:04.940 I don't.
00:20:05.580 I don't want to do that.
00:20:06.680 But by AOC's logic, looks like AOC needs to take responsibility for the shooting in Ohio.
00:20:11.580 And then, of course, there's Bernie Sanders.
00:20:12.980 Mr. President, stop your racist, hateful, and anti-immigrant rhetoric.
00:20:16.940 Your language creates a climate which emboldens violent extremists.
00:20:21.900 A Bernie bro shot up the congressional baseball game.
00:20:25.440 Do you, Senator Sanders, bear responsibility for the attack on the congressional baseball game
00:20:32.580 that almost murdered Steve Scalise?
00:20:33.860 By your logic here, which I don't believe, you, Bernie Sanders, are responsible for almost murdering Steve Scalise.
00:20:42.540 Now, they would never accept responsibility because they don't care.
00:20:44.980 They're just saying words and words to exploit dead bodies for their political game.
00:20:49.280 Fortunately, President Trump came as the adult in the room.
00:20:53.220 And this almost sounds funny because we say President Trump, he sometimes behaves in a childish manner.
00:20:57.740 He hurls insults at his opponents.
00:20:59.640 He can seem petulant.
00:21:00.720 President Trump is far and away the adult in the room in this situation.
00:21:05.200 So he shows up and he gives remarks this morning.
00:21:08.680 They just came out a couple hours ago.
00:21:11.000 Quite good.
00:21:12.180 He started out by condemning bigotry explicitly as it was described in the El Paso Shooters Manifesto.
00:21:19.120 Here he is.
00:21:19.820 In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy.
00:21:26.320 These sinister ideologies must be defeated.
00:21:31.200 Hate has no place in America.
00:21:33.720 Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul.
00:21:40.600 Great.
00:21:41.560 Yeah, this was the right thing to say.
00:21:44.400 He said it per, I don't know how he could have said it more clearly.
00:21:46.860 Now, the other aspect of why this comment was so great is he didn't go as far as he could have to hammer the left.
00:21:56.480 Right?
00:21:56.740 He could have easily said racism and white supremacy and bigotry, racial bigotry is absolutely awful.
00:22:03.400 And that's what we saw in El Paso.
00:22:05.000 Also, Satanism, leftism, and socialism are awful.
00:22:07.580 That's what we saw in Ohio.
00:22:09.340 But he didn't say that.
00:22:11.080 And this was smart.
00:22:11.940 It shows that he learns.
00:22:13.400 It shows that he gets a little savvier.
00:22:15.200 Because that would have just been a repeat of there are fine people on both sides.
00:22:19.180 Now, even though we know that in Charlottesville, when he said there were fine people on both sides,
00:22:25.660 that he was explicitly condemning neo-Nazism, white supremacism, white nationalism, racism, bigotry, what have you.
00:22:32.940 Even though we know that it was totally twisted and politically it still is hurting him.
00:22:39.000 If he had said, we condemn racism and bigotry, we condemn Satanism and leftism,
00:22:45.120 I guess he would have been right.
00:22:46.400 But he's smart also because there was no leftist manifesto in Ohio, not that we know of.
00:22:53.260 So we're pretty certain we know who this guy is.
00:22:56.360 I mean, he had a long social media record.
00:22:58.980 So we think we have an idea.
00:23:01.160 But still, it's not totally clear.
00:23:05.340 So we just, I mean, President Trump is playing it a little more cautious here.
00:23:09.080 He was very smart only to focus on the eco-fascist.
00:23:12.360 I mean, he's just, he's just gotten savvier about all of this.
00:23:16.720 Then he turns his attention on finding solutions.
00:23:19.940 So the first solution he offers is probably what most of us were not expecting.
00:23:26.020 It's a little bit vague.
00:23:27.820 It's, he's just talking about the internet, issues on the internet and the way that information moves around the internet
00:23:34.320 and the way that people get radicalized on the internet.
00:23:37.340 First, we must do a better job of identifying and acting on early warning signs.
00:23:45.140 I am directing the Department of Justice to work in partnership with local, state and federal agencies,
00:23:53.600 as well as social media companies to develop tools that can detect mass shooters before they strike.
00:23:59.380 As an example, the monster in the Parkland High School in Florida had many red flags against him,
00:24:06.800 and yet nobody took decisive action.
00:24:09.400 Nobody did anything.
00:24:11.040 Why not?
00:24:12.180 So the first one is the internet, right?
00:24:16.460 There were a lot of these warning signs.
00:24:18.280 This is very smart.
00:24:19.900 And it's tied to mental health.
00:24:21.620 And this is the real trick here.
00:24:23.320 So, and he ties it to Parkland, which is really smart.
00:24:25.640 There's going to be a great new book coming out very soon on how that Parkland shooting in Florida came to happen.
00:24:32.500 There were so many warning signs along the way, and the schools did nothing.
00:24:36.300 So many warning signs on social media, on the internet, in chat logs.
00:24:39.940 Schools did nothing.
00:24:41.460 This is a little bit of a dangerous point to bring up because you never want to censor the internet.
00:24:46.480 You know, if you start censoring the internet, that can go real wrong real quickly.
00:24:50.680 You could, all of a, I mean, frankly, the left is already censoring the internet by kicking off conservatives.
00:24:55.660 You don't want to get into that kind of world.
00:24:57.440 But you do want to be able to use warning signs on the internet.
00:25:01.260 You know, this guy in Dayton, Ohio, he apparently had a kill list and a rape list that he would write on the wall of the school.
00:25:08.920 People had been chatting about this.
00:25:10.240 People knew about this.
00:25:12.340 Why didn't someone step in?
00:25:14.860 Why didn't someone heed the warning signs?
00:25:17.240 This is tied to mental health, which Trump gets to in a second.
00:25:19.780 Then Trump gets to his second suggestion, which I think is a little bit weaker.
00:25:25.400 I think this is the weakest of all of his arguments and it has to do broadly with a culture of violence and specifically video games.
00:25:33.160 Second, we must stop the glorification of violence in our society.
00:25:39.080 This includes the gruesome and grisly video games that are now commonplace.
00:25:44.820 It is too easy today for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence.
00:25:52.220 We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately.
00:25:58.520 I don't know if this is true.
00:26:00.220 I don't know if this is false.
00:26:02.040 You know, when I was a kid, I didn't play video games a lot, but there was one violent video game, Grand Theft Auto, that I played for, I don't know, six months or something.
00:26:10.340 And I was playing it and then when I went to learn how to drive, I did have this impulse to drive like a maniac.
00:26:18.020 I didn't do it, fortunately.
00:26:19.360 Well, I mean, I drove like a maniac like all teenagers do, but I didn't, you know, drive like I was in a video game.
00:26:23.700 But I did have this impulse.
00:26:25.200 I distinctly remember it thinking like, oh, I should swerve into that lane and swerve over here.
00:26:29.340 And obviously that had just been kind of bred into my mind because I played this video game a lot for a few months.
00:26:36.000 Maybe video games have something to do with it.
00:26:40.340 Our culture has always been violent.
00:26:43.900 Our culture, our pop culture has always been violent.
00:26:47.080 I don't think it's the violence itself.
00:26:49.740 I think it's the fact that in the old days, the violence had an order to it.
00:26:55.600 It had a purpose.
00:26:56.920 It had a moral context.
00:26:58.940 And today, violence is pretty much nihilistic, random, arbitrary, absurd, senseless.
00:27:07.120 I think those are two different things.
00:27:08.460 Don't forget, our culture, the three biggest poems that found our entire culture are all war poems.
00:27:16.320 The Iliad, the Odyssey, and the Aeneid.
00:27:18.860 They're all about one specific war, which is one of the bloodiest wars ever written about, which is the Trojan War.
00:27:24.980 The Aeneid begins, arms and the man I sing.
00:27:28.020 I mean, the first lines, I'm going to sing about war and all this gory, crazy violence.
00:27:32.180 But that was war with a purpose.
00:27:34.180 That was war with a moral universe, a war that had value, a war that had honor and valor and purpose, and even a sense of good and evil.
00:27:40.820 The Lone Ranger, one of the biggest shows from the 1950s.
00:27:44.260 It's about a good guy getting the outlaws, getting the bad guys.
00:27:46.820 But in modern depictions of violence, it's just senseless.
00:27:50.660 It's just crazy.
00:27:51.400 There might be something there to that cultural problem.
00:27:54.760 I think Trump probably has it.
00:27:56.560 Then he gets to the key, the biggest issue of all, which is mental health.
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00:28:52.200 President Trump then gets to the heart of the matter on the solution.
00:29:04.380 This is really correct.
00:29:07.060 He's talking about mental health.
00:29:08.980 Third, we must reform our mental health laws to better identify mentally disturbed individuals
00:29:16.620 who may commit acts of violence and make sure those people not only get treatment,
00:29:23.500 but when necessary, involuntary confinement.
00:29:28.000 Mental illness and hatred pulls the trigger, not the gun.
00:29:33.160 There it is.
00:29:34.300 That's the key.
00:29:37.140 Involuntary confinement, involuntary commitment of the mentally ill.
00:29:41.160 Today, this is taboo on both sides.
00:29:44.300 The left doesn't want to do it because the left is completely insane
00:29:47.280 and the left doesn't really even believe in the concept of mental illness.
00:29:50.440 They sort of celebrate mental illness. 0.74
00:29:52.080 They say, let's all talk about our mental illness.
00:29:53.680 We're all mentally ill.
00:29:55.480 And the right doesn't want to talk about it because we don't want to give the government
00:29:58.100 that much power to involuntarily commit people.
00:30:00.640 But this is the key.
00:30:02.240 Today, it is virtually impossible to do it.
00:30:04.180 But in the 1950s, we had a peak high of mentally ill, confined people.
00:30:10.280 Then states began to empty the asylums in the 1960s. 1.00
00:30:13.900 Actually, Ronald Reagan, of all people, helped that process along.
00:30:17.180 He didn't begin the process, but he did help it along when he was governor of California.
00:30:22.020 And we need to be able to do it.
00:30:25.280 I mean, a huge proportion of these people have clear signs of mental illness, if not all of them.
00:30:30.020 And we need to be able to take them off of the street.
00:30:33.460 I mean, President Trump makes this great point, which is that guns don't kill people.
00:30:40.960 Mentally ill people kill people.
00:30:42.820 It's the mental illness.
00:30:44.000 It's the psychological process that leads to the decision to pull that trigger.
00:30:47.860 The trigger doesn't just pull itself.
00:30:50.380 And it is not just.
00:30:53.880 It is not fair.
00:30:54.960 It is not sustainable to allow dangers to society to be on the street.
00:31:00.900 We do it because of a false sense of freedom.
00:31:04.020 Because we think freedom just means anything goes.
00:31:06.420 It doesn't.
00:31:06.940 People who are mentally ill are not capable of freedom. 1.00
00:31:10.240 Actually, people who are totally uneducated, totally uncultured, totally disengaged from their civilization,
00:31:17.180 also are not capable of their freedom.
00:31:18.840 The founding fathers and the people who have constructed our republic had a very elevated view of freedom.
00:31:25.920 You had to earn your freedom.
00:31:27.020 You had to become fit to govern yourself.
00:31:31.040 You had to be moral.
00:31:32.140 You had to be virtuous.
00:31:33.060 You had to be religious. 0.91
00:31:34.000 You had to be educated.
00:31:35.580 You have to be sane in order to have some freedom.
00:31:37.980 And if not, then it's not that that liberty will be taken from you.
00:31:42.400 It's that you are not capable of that liberty in the first place.
00:31:45.900 So that would be a good place to start is building some more mental asylums and throwing people who are a danger to society in them, getting them drugs.
00:31:53.240 I mean, one of the reasons why they emptied out in the 1960s and 70s is because we had all these good psychological drugs now and we could cure people.
00:32:00.820 So if someone had some mental illness, they'd take a drug.
00:32:03.700 It seemed like they were cured.
00:32:04.960 So we would let them out of the asylum.
00:32:07.180 And then what happens?
00:32:08.000 Instantly, they stop taking the drugs.
00:32:09.680 They wind up on the street or they wind up to be a threat to others.
00:32:13.440 That's one way to do it.
00:32:14.460 And then President Trump hits with great moral clarity on what we should do about the killers now.
00:32:20.400 Today, I'm also directing the Department of Justice to propose legislation ensuring that those who commit hate crimes and mass murders face the death penalty
00:32:34.680 and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.
00:32:43.540 Trump has a lot of moral clarity on this issue.
00:32:45.940 So one of the guys who shot up the bar in Ohio, he was killed, but the guy who shot up the El Paso, Texas mall was not killed.
00:32:55.980 He was apprehended and he should face the death penalty.
00:32:58.980 And he should face the death penalty swiftly.
00:33:01.360 You got to remember, I know it's unpopular these days.
00:33:03.500 There are three purposes of capital punishment.
00:33:06.340 Retribution, deterrence, and rehabilitation.
00:33:10.260 Now, rehabilitation doesn't seem like it factors in a whole lot in terms of capital punishment.
00:33:16.620 It actually does have a role in capital punishment in the sense that it can reform one's mind as he prepares to meet his maker and face the gallows.
00:33:24.860 But broadly speaking on criminal justice, those are the three purposes.
00:33:28.780 Retribution, deterrence, and rehabilitation.
00:33:33.260 And retribution is the key.
00:33:34.680 An injustice has been committed, and for that injustice, because the civil authority exacts justice, for which we have a criminal justice system,
00:33:44.560 the criminal has to be punished just for committing the crime.
00:33:49.540 And then there's the deterrence factor.
00:33:50.940 So if capital punishment isn't a great deterrent now, when we have 30 or 40 year waiting periods to kill people,
00:33:56.800 we need to enact, or exact justice rather, swiftly.
00:34:02.080 We need to do it quickly.
00:34:02.980 That will increase the deterrent effect.
00:34:06.220 A few facts to keep in mind here.
00:34:08.720 As we hear the endless debate that is just beginning.
00:34:13.920 You're going to hear gun control brought up a lot.
00:34:16.360 There is no gun control law that would have prevented either of these shootings.
00:34:20.000 Not one.
00:34:20.680 Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you.
00:34:22.980 And they're exploiting your emotions to affect their political purposes.
00:34:26.660 And they're exploiting dead bodies to affect their political goals.
00:34:31.600 There is a reform that could have stopped maybe the Ohio shooting.
00:34:34.860 The Ohio shooter had that hit list.
00:34:36.480 He had that rape list. 0.99
00:34:37.580 I mean, he was clearly a demented person.
00:34:40.380 He could have been committed to a mental institution.
00:34:42.780 He could have been denied his civil liberties.
00:34:45.400 He could have been denied his Second Amendment rights.
00:34:46.980 He could have been denied other civil liberties, too.
00:34:49.200 But that's a mental health issue.
00:34:50.900 That's not a gun control issue.
00:34:52.980 You can't just take away people's civil rights, Second Amendment rights, willy-nilly,
00:34:56.940 just because you don't like them or you don't like the cut of their jib.
00:35:00.760 You can take away their civil rights if they are not deemed fit for liberty.
00:35:06.640 If they're not deemed fit to behave as individuals in a free society.
00:35:09.840 If you commit them to an insane asylum.
00:35:12.560 That's what they could have done.
00:35:13.580 That's not a gun control law.
00:35:14.820 That is a mental health reform.
00:35:16.900 Also, on gun control, as they tell you, all gun control laws would have fixed it.
00:35:23.220 Don't forget, President Trump is sympathetic to gun control.
00:35:25.920 He has passed certain gun control measures.
00:35:27.940 He actually bragged in his remarks about how after the last big mass shooting in Las Vegas,
00:35:32.840 he banned bump stocks.
00:35:34.860 Here's his boast.
00:35:36.000 At my direction, the Department of Justice banned bump stocks.
00:35:41.720 Last year, we prosecuted a record number of firearms offenses.
00:35:47.620 But there is so much more that we have to do.
00:35:51.100 Now, you see that he accidentally, or maybe intentionally,
00:35:55.320 undermined the argument for gun control there.
00:35:57.360 Because we said at the time, when they banned bump stocks after that mass shooting in Las Vegas,
00:36:02.280 I said, this bump stock ban isn't going to do anything.
00:36:04.400 It's not going to stop any mass shootings.
00:36:05.960 It's completely pointless virtue signaling.
00:36:09.600 Looks like I was right.
00:36:11.340 The bump stock ban didn't stop this mass shooting.
00:36:14.240 It didn't stop either of the mass shootings this weekend.
00:36:16.500 It achieved nothing, other than to limit people's Second Amendment rights to protect themselves.
00:36:23.200 The other thing to keep in mind here, mass shootings are not really on the rise.
00:36:26.560 At least according to the most recent data that we have.
00:36:29.080 So, New York Magazine, which is not a conservative publication,
00:36:32.120 published a long piece on this in 2014.
00:36:34.360 The number of mass shooting incidents that involve four or more fatalities
00:36:37.700 is not really up since 1976, since they've been keeping track of this.
00:36:44.340 Number of people killed and the number of incidents has not really increased since 1976.
00:36:49.940 It feels like it has, but it hasn't.
00:36:52.360 Now, what is different here is the media coverage.
00:36:54.280 So, people are covering this, and we all have instant access to media everywhere.
00:36:59.640 But what's up is not the incidents themselves.
00:37:02.080 It's the media coverage.
00:37:03.280 This is not a lot of comfort to victims or families or people who see these images on their TV screens.
00:37:08.280 But those are the data.
00:37:09.920 Those are the facts.
00:37:11.740 And another fact here, which is now unpopular,
00:37:13.840 is that mass shootings are just one tiny aspect of our national misery epidemic.
00:37:20.480 They're just one tiny aspect of our national problem.
00:37:22.540 Neil deGrasse Tyson, that leftist scientist, clock that is broken is right twice a day.
00:37:29.600 He tweeted this out over the weekend, and he's getting a lot of flack for it.
00:37:32.180 He tweeted, quote,
00:37:32.820 In the past 48 hours, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.
00:37:38.700 On average, across any 48 hours, we also lose 500 people to medical errors, 300 people to the flu,
00:37:46.740 250 people to suicide, 200 to car accidents, 40 to homicide via handgun.
00:37:52.600 Often, our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.
00:37:57.360 290 people killed in just the last 48 hours from homicides and from suicides.
00:38:10.340 It's almost 10 times as many people as were killed in those mass shootings occur every two days.
00:38:14.980 That's, again, that's no consolation when you see these awful images on TV, but those are the facts.
00:38:24.580 Almost 10 times as many people killed every two days as were killed in those mass shootings.
00:38:29.080 Just in Chicago this weekend, seven people were killed, 59 people were wounded from gun violence.
00:38:33.520 Just in Chicago, that's one American city, just this weekend.
00:38:36.140 It's not a mass shooting, it's just the way it was.
00:38:38.240 And yet, the whole purpose of this hysteria, this sensationalism, this vitriolic exploitation of dead bodies on the left
00:38:49.260 is to get you to stop thinking.
00:38:52.480 They don't want you to think.
00:38:53.480 They don't want you to look at data.
00:38:54.960 They want you to be so riled up by emotion that you do whatever they say.
00:38:59.500 You saw these cynical political hacks on television all weekend.
00:39:03.840 They want you to stop acknowledging reality.
00:39:05.580 On MSNBC, they had this professor from Princeton, Eddie Glaude, who told people that they actually
00:39:12.380 had to stop using the phrase illegal immigrant because it contributes to mass shootings.
00:39:18.300 But it's also important for us to understand the kind of continuity, the line, the connection.
00:39:23.400 What does it mean to have a discourse in which people are dehumanized, where you use a phrase
00:39:28.320 like illegal immigrant, where the phrase itself places that person outside of a certain kind of sense
00:39:36.060 of empathy and decency?
00:39:37.520 What happens?
00:39:38.220 Otherizing.
00:39:38.880 Otherizing.
00:39:39.280 What happens when we use language like infestation, children.
00:39:43.820 You use this, Governor.
00:39:44.820 Children.
00:39:45.360 Yes.
00:39:45.700 Carrying, perhaps, disease across the border.
00:39:49.200 What happens?
00:39:49.780 You set the stage for people who are even more on the extreme to act violently.
00:39:54.600 We are in a cold civil war.
00:39:56.580 We are in a cold civil war.
00:39:58.920 And there are some people who bear the burden of it.
00:40:01.860 Chuck?
00:40:02.560 Listen to how perverse that is.
00:40:04.220 Listen to how false everything he said is.
00:40:05.820 He said, if you tell the truth, you are responsible for mass murder.
00:40:11.940 Right?
00:40:12.060 If you use the phrase illegal immigrant, it's not even the best phrase.
00:40:16.180 The correct phrase is illegal alien, illegal foreign national in our country. 0.98
00:40:20.660 If you use that phrase, if you point out that they carry disease and crime over here,
00:40:26.100 you are responsible for mass murder. 0.75
00:40:29.440 Then he turns the rhetoric up even higher.
00:40:31.200 He says that we're in a cold civil war.
00:40:33.620 We mean a cold war where you're talking about a mass shooting.
00:40:36.740 So obviously that's not cold.
00:40:37.920 That's hot.
00:40:38.420 And over the weekend, you had a radical eco-fascist and you had a radical leftist each commit a mass shooting.
00:40:47.380 So it doesn't seem like a cold civil war at all.
00:40:49.520 What he's saying is you have blood on your hands if you tell the truth.
00:40:53.300 This guy goes on television and encourages everyone to lie.
00:40:56.940 Allow your emotions to run away with you and lie.
00:40:59.480 Lest you calm down, look at the facts coolly, and tell the truth.
00:41:03.620 The time is now.
00:41:04.740 We can't wait.
00:41:05.620 Don't think absolutely despicable emotional exploitation from the left.
00:41:11.580 What should we actually do?
00:41:14.220 We should grieve.
00:41:16.200 We should comfort one another.
00:41:18.300 We should accept with resignation, but nonetheless acceptance, that we live in a fallen world.
00:41:26.620 Even if these mass shooting incidents are not increasing, which they're not, even if gun crime is decreasing, which over a 30, 20, 30 year span it is, even if all those things are true, we live in a fallen world.
00:41:40.260 We will never eliminate murder, hatred, bigotry, violence.
00:41:44.380 We won't eliminate any of that.
00:41:45.760 This is a broken world.
00:41:46.800 No utopian scheme promised us by the left is going to do it, and no amount of emotional manipulation is going to lead to that utopia, to that paradise.
00:41:54.400 Actually, those utopias tend to be hell on earth.
00:41:58.240 We should calm down.
00:41:59.280 We should accept that tragic fact of life.
00:42:02.180 We should comfort one another.
00:42:03.120 And then, when we are thinking clearly, once all the emotional exploitation is gone, we should address these issues in a rational manner.
00:42:11.860 There is something to be done.
00:42:14.000 You could rebuild some mental asylums. 0.80
00:42:16.360 You could make it easier to involuntarily commit people.
00:42:20.080 Those two things would help.
00:42:22.720 You could encourage a culture that fixes broken families.
00:42:26.560 The vast majority of these mass shooters come from fatherless homes and broken homes.
00:42:31.280 You could do all of that.
00:42:32.360 You should do all of that.
00:42:33.880 You got to do it in a thinking manner and not allow these sick, cynical, political anglers to exploit your grief and a national grief to their own benefit.
00:42:49.200 Before we go, speaking of these cynical anglers, I just want to show the bright side of this.
00:42:53.920 We talked about tragedy.
00:42:54.980 Now, let's talk about farce.
00:42:56.020 At the National Democratic Socialists of America Convention in Atlanta, the DSA promised to topple capitalism.
00:43:05.240 And they were this close.
00:43:06.120 They were so close to doing it, weren't they?
00:43:08.080 Except they couldn't get past the announcements because all of the crazed leftists were arguing about pronouns and phony medical conditions and fake grievances.
00:43:19.200 And it just, it was absolutely hilarious.
00:43:23.720 Take a listen.
00:43:24.120 If we want to defeat capitalism, we are going to need a party that will organize working people to fight for the demands that we want and to win socialism.
00:43:34.000 Thank you so much.
00:43:35.440 Quick point of privilege.
00:43:36.780 Quick point of personal privilege.
00:43:38.540 Guys, first of all, James Jackson, Sacramento, he, him.
00:43:41.920 I just want to say, can we please keep the chatter to a minimum?
00:43:45.060 I'm one of the people who's very, very prone to sensory overload.
00:43:48.480 There's a lot of whispering and chatter going on.
00:43:50.160 It's making it very difficult for me to focus.
00:43:52.320 Please, can we just, I know we're all fresh and ready to go, but can we please just keep the chatter to a minimum?
00:43:56.960 It's affecting my ability to focus.
00:43:58.280 Thank you.
00:43:58.800 Thank you, comrade.
00:44:00.180 Okay, is there a speaker against, name, chapter, pronoun?
00:44:03.280 Point of personal privilege.
00:44:05.200 Yes.
00:44:06.100 Please do not use gendered language to address everyone.
00:44:13.020 You know, I think they're pretty close.
00:44:16.460 They're on the way to toppling capitalism.
00:44:20.120 But it's going to be a little longer.
00:44:21.820 It's going to take a little bit longer.
00:44:23.300 You couldn't see, by the way, in the video, when the first guy talks about sensory overload,
00:44:28.820 everyone just raises their hands and starts shaking them.
00:44:31.060 But they don't clap because that would be sensory overload.
00:44:34.120 But I assume it's not just the auditory sense, right?
00:44:37.440 I assume also the visual sense could be overloaded.
00:44:40.100 So that, I think, would overload it too.
00:44:41.580 And then just the righteous anger of that second guy.
00:44:44.840 Can we please stop using gendered pronouns?
00:44:48.360 And then I wanted the auditory, the sensory overload guy to get back up and say, please stop yelling so it's too much.
00:44:55.500 And they could just get into like a screech off.
00:44:57.560 That's basically what we're seeing in the 2020 Democratic presidential debate anyway.
00:45:02.080 This is just the broader version of that.
00:45:05.300 This is just, I would say, you know, the young people, the university campuses, that's the crystal ball.
00:45:10.860 That's what our society is going to look like in 20 years.
00:45:12.760 So you are looking at a preview of the 2048, whatever the year is, Democratic presidential primary debates.
00:45:21.160 And it's going to be a whole lot of fun.
00:45:22.360 And something tells me capitalism is going to win.
00:45:24.820 Something tells me capitalism is going to survive.
00:45:26.920 Before we go, I just have to give a quick little review of Quentin Tarantino's latest movie, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
00:45:32.620 Went to see it last night with Jay Hay and Andrew Klavan and Spencer Klavan.
00:45:38.280 And it was a lot of fun.
00:45:40.320 It's a very fun movie.
00:45:41.120 It's almost three hours long, but it actually flies through.
00:45:44.340 Tarantino's not a great filmmaker, but he's a really good one.
00:45:47.620 So you're never bored all the way through.
00:45:49.520 The reason I would encourage people to watch it, I don't know that the film has a lot of meaning.
00:45:54.600 It's pretty entertaining, at least by the end.
00:45:58.220 But if the film has meaning, I think part of the meaning of it is how Hollywood went so wrong.
00:46:05.860 And how in the 1960s and 70s, Hollywood basically cracked up and went just totally off the rails.
00:46:12.420 And it's a movie about how it might have avoided that fate.
00:46:16.420 How it actually might have saved itself.
00:46:20.280 Tarantino likes to go back and fix history.
00:46:22.120 So he goes back and, you know, the Jews kill the Nazis and, you know, so on. 0.52
00:46:27.160 And so the black slaves rise up and kill the white slave owners in the South. 0.97
00:46:31.160 This is a movie about that too.
00:46:33.420 But it's got a profoundly conservative tone to the movie.
00:46:38.340 There's a conservative subtext.
00:46:39.980 So I'd encourage you all to go see.
00:46:41.440 It's pretty fun.
00:46:42.460 You'll at least get your money's worth for three hours of gratuitous violence and Tarantino entertainment.
00:46:47.500 So it might be worth checking it out.
00:46:50.500 At the very least, you'll be able to lament, along with the filmmakers and all of us, the demise of our culture.
00:46:57.020 That's our show.
00:46:57.720 Come back tomorrow.
00:46:58.420 We'll have a lot more to get to.
00:46:59.820 We just had to get to this big story today, but much more coming up.
00:47:03.120 So tune in tomorrow.
00:47:04.060 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:47:04.840 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:47:06.120 See you then.
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00:47:37.560 Hey, guys, over on The Matt Wall Show today, of course,
00:47:39.460 we'll be discussing the horrific shootings that happened over the weekend.
00:47:42.760 But what I want to do is go beyond talking points, go beyond the partisan blame game,
00:47:48.660 and talk instead about what factors are really contributing to this epidemic,
00:47:53.140 especially what new factors in our society might be contributing to this.
00:47:57.020 I have a few ideas that I think hopefully get to the heart of the matter,
00:48:00.040 or at least get close to the heart of the matter.
00:48:02.100 And we'll talk about that today over on The Matt Wall Show.
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