The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 4 - Goo-Goo Ga-ttaca： The Dawn of Designer Babies

00:00:00.680 The tweets are in. Dawn of the designer baby. Scientists safely use gene editing to delete a

00:00:07.240 mutation from a human embryo, bringing back ethical debates. Scientists have edited human

00:00:12.340 embryos to safely remove diseases. What could go wrong? Great question. Trump is the designer baby

00:00:18.000 of the GOP. Good point. Stoked for those who may benefit, but scared this might be the beginning

00:00:24.020 of the end of the era of smart monkeys. Who are you calling a monkey? Last week, the MIT Technology

00:00:29.740 Review reported that scientists in Oregon successfully modified the DNA of human embryos using the

00:00:35.420 gene editing technique CRISPR to edit out a heritable heart condition, signaling perhaps

00:00:40.100 the dawn of designer babies. Start saving your pennies, or you might wind up with one of those

00:00:44.660 outdated, imperfect babies. Plus, roaming millennial Amanda Prestigiacomo and Paul Bois join the

00:00:50.480 panel of deplorables to discuss Rosie O'Donnell's new women-only political party, White House

00:00:55.980 aide Stephen Miller's smackdown of CNN, and the prospect of President Zuckerberg. Oh my.

00:01:01.660 Stick around at the end because I will answer your questions from our first ever mailbag.

00:01:05.660 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:16.420 Now, this is a major news story that scientists have now successfully edited the human genome and

00:01:23.080 deleted a mutation for a heart disorder, which is called hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Luckily,

00:01:28.280 we at The Michael Knowles Show, we have so many great live feeds. We have a live feed from the

00:01:32.340 laboratory where this advance occurred. Can we cut to it? Genetics. What can it mean? The ability

00:01:38.000 to perfect the physical and mental characteristics of every unborn child.

00:01:43.100 The ability of genetic enter to choose the genes of the society.

00:01:54.020 Oh no, that was the trailer for the 1997 sci-fi epic Gattaca. That was not the, we've got to fix that live

00:02:02.100 feed. So it's a very good movie. Now, of course, left-wing outlets predictably are denying that

00:02:08.960 this is the age of Gattaca. They're denying even not only the moral hazard, but even that this is 0.95

00:02:13.540 happening in the first place. The Atlantic has a big piece out today, quote, the designer baby era is

00:02:19.080 not upon us. American scientists have now used CRISPR to edit embryos. Doesn't mean we're entering

00:02:24.040 into Gattaca dystopia. Steven Pinker out of Harvard has been denying that this is happening

00:02:28.560 for a decade now. He wrote 10 years ago, 15 years ago, I think. The prospect of designer babies is

00:02:33.900 very much in doubt. We can deal with the ethical conundrums if and when they arise, but thinkers

00:02:38.620 should acknowledge the frailty of technological predictions and base policy recommendations on

00:02:43.420 likelihoods rather than fantasies. But not all of the experts agree. Not even all of the experts on

00:02:48.980 the left agree. There is a left-wing pro-abortion genetic study center. It's called the Center for

00:02:54.320 Genetics and Society. And they're firmly against this. They're saying that what's being reported

00:02:59.780 as research here is deeply misleading and, quote, there's no need to manipulate the genes

00:03:04.680 of children to remove the risk of disease. So in this debate, it's very confusing. Let's

00:03:09.740 turn to the foremost expert we have in channeling scientific technology to perfect human nature.

00:03:15.860 Marshall, how many times do I have to tell you I don't speak German? I'm sorry. No, we don't all

00:03:35.640 speak German, okay? Okay. Now, we're lucky that we also have an English-speaking analyst. I guess

00:03:41.500 we'll have to listen to him on this. It's an expert out of the University of Chicago, Leon Cass. He's a

00:03:46.620 brilliant humanist. He was also the chairman of President Bush's Presidential Council on

00:03:50.820 Bioethical Inquiry. And he breaks down this issue a little more in depth for those of us who don't

00:03:56.980 speak Nazi. Most of us cheerfully believe that we can both enjoy the promise and escape the perils 0.82

00:04:03.260 of the coming biotechnological age. Most of us also believe that there is little connection between

00:04:09.500 the promise and the peril or between the humanistic aspirations that fuel the scientific enterprise

00:04:16.140 and the deadly or dehumanizing uses to which new technologies might perversely be put.

00:04:22.540 But a powerful challenge to our complacent opinion is provided by an important exhibit prepared by the

00:04:29.100 United States Holocaust Museum entitled Deadly Medicine Creating the Master Race. This exhibit

00:04:35.980 documents the abominable uses that the Nazis made of science and medicine. But even more relevant for 0.82

00:04:42.380 us, it also presents the scientific outlook on life and the aspiration to human perfectibility

00:04:49.260 that the Nazis inherited and exploited. An outlook and an aspiration that dwell robustly in American 0.79

00:04:56.300 cultural life today. So who said it better, Michael?

00:05:00.140 Well, I certainly understood it better from Leon Kass. And I think that's why I'm always

00:05:06.140 reluctant to make comparisons to the Nazis. But I don't think it's out of place here,

00:05:09.980 because this is a disturbing trend that's happened for a while. But it is a break from Western

00:05:14.860 civilization, the quest to perfect human nature scientifically and not merely socially. You know,

00:05:21.900 it was put, I don't remember who put it this way, but it was put that previously in Western

00:05:27.020 civilization. We had a God made man who saved us from sin through his suffering. And now we have

00:05:34.220 man made God who is saving us himself from the sin of suffering. That is a really radically different

00:05:40.460 way of approaching our lives and approaching the world. And it raises a number of ethical questions

00:05:45.980 that we have not even come close to answering yet. And probably we should answer before we start

00:05:50.940 creating these supermen, these little super babies. Will designer babies create radical inequality? 0.99

00:05:56.940 If we are already selecting out through abortion, the people who have mental illnesses or who are

00:06:04.220 mentally retarded, while they're still in the womb, the number of people with Down syndrome has 0.93

00:06:08.780 decreased dramatically, because people are selecting against it. There is this radical inequality that

00:06:14.940 could be created. And there's also the question of who has access to it. So if this technology exists

00:06:20.300 to get rid of certain heritable diseases, or to augment intelligence, or so on and so forth,

00:06:26.540 who's going to have access to them? It's going to be people who have the money to pay for it.

00:06:30.460 And now, even if this is highly regulated by the government, of course, a black market will exist.

00:06:35.980 And when we're talking about something as important and fundamental as human nature and as the human

00:06:41.260 brain, that black market could breed a lot of chaos and trouble. Some other questions are the

00:06:47.500 unintended consequences. Do we really want to unbound ourselves from our human nature? And when I say that

00:06:53.820 this technology has the prospect to change human nature, I'm not speaking hyperbolically. The word

00:06:59.580 nature is referring to how we are born, how humans are born into this world. So if we can eliminate

00:07:06.860 suffering, and early death, or disease, or what have you, would we really want to? It's suffering and

00:07:12.780 enriching an inherent part of the human condition. And if we say, well, we'll just get rid of the really bad diseases,

00:07:18.860 how do we determine what these really bad diseases are? This heritable heart condition that affects

00:07:22.780 athletes that we've selected against or edited out using this technology, is that the threshold or

00:07:29.020 certain other diseases? I sneeze a lot. Will that someday be edited out? I joke a little bit, but it's

00:07:35.500 really hard to draw that line. And also, does this affect the commoditization of life? We've seen that

00:07:42.940 life can have a money value in the modern world, and life that's more costly to create will have a

00:07:48.540 higher price tag on it. Do we want to further degrade life in the material world? And does it

00:07:53.900 undermine concepts that are essential to our country and our civilization? Universal equality, equality

00:07:59.260 before God, all men are created equal and have natural rights. Will we create men intentionally who

00:08:04.940 are decidedly unequal, who have huge variability in IQ, or resistance to disease, or so on and so forth?

00:08:12.460 And there's a generational ethical question, which is, you're not only affecting the genome for one

00:08:17.900 person, you're affecting it all the way down the line. If you're taking out heritable diseases,

00:08:22.700 then his children will not inherit them and his children and his children and so forth.

00:08:26.140 And who gets to make that call? You know who I think gets to make that call? Our panel of

00:08:30.300 deplorables. We bring on Roaming Millennial, you know her from the YouTubes. The Daily Wire is very 0.99

00:08:35.740 on Amanda Prestigiacomo, and for some reason, Paul Bois, the voice of the Lord himself. Roaming,

00:08:42.300 does this mean that one day we could even make an embryo that was destined to look like Paul Bois

00:08:48.220 end up looking like you or Amanda? Because then very possibly I could get on board with it.

00:08:53.980 Yeah. You know, this is an issue where honestly, I'm torn. I mean, you know, obviously when we start

00:08:59.980 talking about steps to perfect the human race, I mean, yeah, that is, you know, Nazi whispers kind

00:09:05.820 of start going off at the back of your head. But that was Paul's nickname in high school,

00:09:09.340 by the way, was the Nazi whisperer. But I'm sorry to interrupt. Go ahead. 0.87

00:09:11.820 That's a good one. But I mean, yeah, you know, at the same time, people are saying like, hey, look,

00:09:16.700 we have the chance of eradicating a lot of these more serious diseases. And, you know, as someone who

00:09:21.580 hopes to be a mother someday, I'm trying to put myself in that position. Or like, if I'm about to have a

00:09:26.060 kid and, you know, this is a possibility, I can ensure that they are going to be healthy growing

00:09:30.780 up. It's a really honestly, it's a hard decision to make. And I think it's something that,

00:09:35.820 you know, we as a public should have more input on, right? I don't think we should just,

00:09:39.740 you know, let this happen and kind of on the sidelines.

00:09:42.060 But it happened by accident.

00:09:43.020 And I think this, right, exactly. I think we do need to be having this conversation

00:09:47.260 as a culture, because like you said, there's a ton of implications that we've never had to deal with

00:09:51.180 before. And you bring up a great point. I think everybody wants it for their child. I want it for a

00:09:55.340 little, little Michael Jr. for sure. I just don't want it for anyone else's child. And,

00:09:59.820 and this raises the moral, this moral hazard. So Paul, to you, moral hazard, moral hazard,

00:10:05.740 why shouldn't we just make our kids pretty and smart and wonderful? 1.00

00:10:09.740 I mean, well, we can go on all day about what kind of world this opens up. I think the movie

00:10:15.660 Gattaca really successfully explored the kind of caste system that would develop with genetically

00:10:20.780 enhanced human beings. But I think an interesting point is one that was made by Dr. David King,

00:10:29.100 when he said that by genetically enhancing people, we would therefore be forcing them

00:10:34.060 to perform according to the way that we designed them to. So essentially, we're eliminating people's

00:10:38.380 free will. So let's take, for example, you take a person who's born, and we design them to be like

00:10:44.460 Ben Shapiro, a superhuman IQ intelligence. God forbid. God help us. That's the name of my show,

00:10:49.660 actually. And let's just say this Ben Shapiro clone, he just decides one day he wants to sit

00:10:55.100 all day on his butt and watch Brady Bunch. Who's to say that a government or an agency can't force 0.95

00:11:01.660 him to live according to the way that he was designed to do so? So that's an interesting point.

00:11:06.140 I think we just got a window into polls Saturday afternoons, just sitting on that couch,

00:11:10.780 watching the Brady Bunch. Sounds good to me. Amanda, the secular left is always harping on 1.00

00:11:17.260 inequality. They imagine inequalities, they create new inequalities, but they seem to be embracing this,

00:11:23.420 at least a good percentage of them. Isn't there a disconnect here?

00:11:27.660 Yeah. And you see the same thing in abortion, as you were talking about earlier. It's the same thing

00:11:31.980 where they're eliminating Down syndrome babies. They talk about all this inequality, income inequality,

00:11:37.420 that's what they're fixated on. When it comes to things like this, we are literally eliminating

00:11:41.980 Down syndrome children through abortion. And again, this would be the same thing where you would

00:11:47.820 eliminate whatever quality or whatever. I mean, I know they're talking about genetic diseases right

00:11:52.300 now, but you know, where does this, where does this end? It's all in the name of compassion,

00:11:56.860 isn't it? Just like the compassion to let little child. As always.

00:12:00.860 As always, the same with abortion of compassion for the mother, but no compassion for the child.

00:12:04.700 And again, like Paul said, no free will as well. That's a great point. Roaming,

00:12:08.620 Leon compared this to the Holocaust, compared it to Nazi eugenics. Is that outrageous? Were the

00:12:17.580 Nazi eugenics a bastardization of science, or is it the logical conclusion of this sort of scientific

00:12:23.900 inquiry? Well, I mean, if we take the assumption that there are groups that we are as a society

00:12:31.420 prejudiced against, I, I don't know, let's say, let's say gingers, because that's a pretty 0.99

00:12:35.500 inoffensive way to go. It's not crazy to think that when we have to bleep this out,

00:12:40.300 Richard Spencer back here again, with all her racist clap. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Roaming.

00:12:45.420 But you know, it's not crazy to think that when we do have the ability to select which genes and which

00:12:51.260 traits we want to pass on to our children, that these traits that we find less desirable will be

00:12:56.140 eliminated from the gene pool. And you know, if you're, you know, if you're someone who is,

00:13:01.980 I don't know, of a, you know, let's say again, let's go with gingers, let's say for gingers, 0.99

00:13:07.660 right? I mean, I don't think it's crazy to make that leap and say like, hey, yeah, you know, maybe

00:13:11.660 this is something we should be concerned about. Do we want to give people the power to, you know,

00:13:16.940 kind of take these genes out of, out of our society, out of humans based on, I don't know.

00:13:22.860 The answer is, of course, yes. We're probably going to get blocked on YouTube for all of this

00:13:26.380 anti-ginger talk, but proceed. Right. To me, it's a lot of control to be giving to people, 0.98

00:13:31.500 to scientists. Absolutely. Absolutely. And Paul, you're the more Catholic than the Pope.

00:13:36.540 Would you say that people here are looking now towards science for their salvation? Questions

00:13:42.940 that they might've prayed for or accepted suffering with acceptance and patience, they're now looking

00:13:48.540 for science to fix. Is there something wrong with this? Is it going on? What do we do about it?

00:13:52.940 Oh, absolutely, Michael. There's tons of things wrong with here. So, I mean, what you have here

00:13:58.700 is really, it's a multi-pronged situation with different theological implications. Like,

00:14:03.500 one is a conchable good, you know, which is the healing of certain diseases,

00:14:07.420 while the other is a violation of natural law. And that's the enhancement of humans beyond their

00:14:11.660 natural state. And so the church makes a clear distinction between genetic enhancement and genetic

00:14:18.380 therapy. Genetic therapy essentially restores nature. I mean, as long as it restores the

00:14:23.420 dignity upon a person, um, and genetic enhancements, uh, imposes upon them, uh, something that wasn't

00:14:32.220 there already. Naturally, you know, you make them super smart or you make them super athletic. Um, and

00:14:36.620 that is very clearly defined as, uh, morally defunct and to be avoided.

00:14:41.100 An important distinction from Cardinal Bois. We have to move on. The DCCC, the Democratic

00:14:46.540 Congressional Campaign Committee has signaled that there will be no litmus test for candidates.

00:14:51.100 Just speaking of eugenics, they are suggesting that they'll allow pro-life Democrats to run and 0.52

00:14:56.460 still fund them. Rosie O'Donnell is very upset about this. She's threatening to form her own all 1.00

00:15:01.420 women political party if the Democrats don't kick out all of the pro-lifers from their party. For 1.00

00:15:06.460 reaction, we go to president Trump. Well, Rosie O'Donnell is disgusting. I mean, 1.00

00:15:10.780 both inside and out, you take a look at her. She talks like a truck driver. Rosie personally,

00:15:18.140 because I was very happy when her talk show failed. The other thing that failed, and this was a real

00:15:22.540 monster and everybody was suing her. Maybe her party will fail too. Amanda, it seems fair to say

00:15:28.620 that Rosie O'Donnell will never need an abortion. Why does she care about this so much? 1.00

00:15:36.540 Yeah, she, first of all, I'm just, I'm glad that she's speaking up and coming to the forefront of

00:15:40.860 the Democratic Party as much as we can get her out there. I'm cool with it. She makes Lena Dunham 0.99

00:15:45.900 look sufferable. So I'm okay with Rosie being as loud as she can. She's always loud. So it's,

00:15:51.180 you know, it's a given. Well, I just, it's just so funny though, because this is, this is the

00:15:57.260 Democratic Party. This is what they're up against right now. They're trying to move to the center

00:16:01.180 because they know they keep getting their butt kicked and they want to win those voters that 0.98

00:16:04.140 Trump won, those, those, that white working class. And they're not being allowed to because of crazies 0.99

00:16:09.260 like Rosie who have taken over their party and pull them to the left. I mean, they're just saying,

00:16:13.500 we're going to be open to the idea of someone who, who's, you know, not pro-Sacrament abortion,

00:16:19.900 and they're losing their minds. She wants to start a whole new party of just women. By the way, 1.00

00:16:23.900 women are not monolithic. They're not all pro-abortion. So, I mean, I think it's 40% of

00:16:29.900 women aren't for abortion. That's right. Almost half of women are pro-life. They don't support 1.00

00:16:34.700 abortion. And the numbers get even, even more interesting when you break it down by second

00:16:39.500 trimester or late abortion, what have you. Oh, exactly. Paul, is, is Amanda right? Is the DCCC

00:16:44.700 signaling that it should back away from the sacramental view of abortion? It might not play in Peoria?

00:16:50.220 Yeah, I think they realize that it's been hazardous to them in the long run. I mean,

00:16:54.860 this is a litmus test that was actually imposed upon by the Clintons. The last major pro-life

00:17:00.860 democratic figure was Governor Robert Casey, who was disinvited to speak at the DNC in 1992 because

00:17:07.820 of his pro-life views. And I think that after the election of Trump and the fall of the Rust Belt and

00:17:13.740 the Midwestern states sort of going into the Republican party, I think they see a serious

00:17:20.220 problem on their hands. And there are a lot of pro-life people that I know personally and out

00:17:24.780 there voicing themselves who identify politically with the Democratic party, but they just are very,

00:17:30.220 very uncomfortable with their pro-abortion views. So I think it's starting to hit them.

00:17:35.500 It also seems like a bad strategy to keep killing the next generation of your political activists.

00:17:40.220 That can't last for very long. Roaming- That's why they open borders.

00:17:44.620 Yeah, that is why they open borders. Right, they want important ones.

00:17:46.700 Exactly, yes. Roaming, if Rosie starts an all-women political party, 1.00

00:17:52.060 will you be its nominee for president? And if so, what will be your first act in office?

00:17:58.620 Well, absolutely, I would join the party and wanna be head of that movement. Because as we all know,

00:18:03.020 the only thing women care about as voters is abortion. That's right. 1.00

00:18:06.540 Obviously, just throw abortions at us, we will come a running. No, but seriously, 0.97

00:18:11.020 I've never understood these left-wing feminists who try to make abortion something that all women 1.00

00:18:17.820 should care about all the time. So I'm personally pro-life, but I know a lot of my friends who are

00:18:22.300 pro-choice. And even for them, they understand that, hey, I may or may not have an abortion

00:18:27.340 throughout my lifetime. And hopefully, Lord willing, it's never going to happen. But you know what I do

00:18:32.700 do every day? I do go to work every day. I do pay taxes every day. I do live in a society that is

00:18:37.740 influenced by immigration every day. Maybe those are more important to me. And when it comes to 0.89

00:18:42.140 abortion, I've actually been shamed as a woman for actually saying that I'm pro-life, but I don't

00:18:47.660 know if it's necessarily something I would withdraw support from for a candidate if they came out in

00:18:53.500 a different position. I've been shamed by pro-life women for not caring- sorry, pro-choice women for not 0.82

00:18:58.620 caring enough about this topic. I shame you too. For shame, Roaming, for shame.

00:19:02.860 Right. But I mean, shouldn't the point of abortions be, even if you're for them to,

00:19:08.060 I don't know, have as little of them as possible? So Rosie O'Donnell just seems one of those people 0.98

00:19:12.380 who, I don't know, the sort of shout-your-abortion type of feminist who's trying to glorify it, 1.00

00:19:17.740 make everyone wants one, just abortions on the street corner. And I just don't get it.

00:19:22.140 Lena Dunham said she's sorry she hasn't had an abortion because she can't be a good ally for the pro-choice 0.93

00:19:27.900 movement. And there is this conflation too of abortion with women's health. So all of women's

00:19:33.500 health is abortion. I think someone else said it, but when you call up your grandmother and you say,

00:19:38.700 hey, grandma, how you doing? Well, you know, my hip hurts and I don't walk as well, but at least I

00:19:44.620 still have my right to have an abortion. At least I still have that. That's not what I hear from my

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00:20:42.060 CNN's Jim Acosta recently got into a heated exchange with White House aide Stephen Miller over

00:20:47.180 immigration. The Statue of Liberty says give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, 1.00

00:20:53.420 yearning to breathe free. It doesn't say anything about speaking English or being able to

00:20:58.940 be a computer programmer. Aren't you trying to change what it means to be an immigrant 1.00

00:21:04.620 coming into this country if you're telling them you have to speak English? Can't people learn how to 1.00

00:21:10.700 speak English when they get here? Well, first of all, right now, it's a requirement that it'd be

00:21:15.980 naturalized. You had to speak English. So the notion that speaking English wouldn't be a part

00:21:19.900 of our immigration systems would be actually very ahistorical. Secondly, I don't want to get off into

00:21:24.620 a whole thing about history here, but the Statue of Liberty is a symbol of liberty enlightening

00:21:29.340 the world. It's a symbol of American liberty lighting the world. The poem that you're referring

00:21:33.420 to was added later is not actually part of the original Statue of Liberty. Jim, I appreciate

00:21:41.260 your speech. Jim, I appreciate your speech. So let's talk about this. Jim, let's talk about this.

00:21:46.940 In 1970, when we let in 300,000 people a year, was that violating or not violating the Statue of

00:21:52.460 Liberty law of the land? In the 1990s, when it was half a million a year, was it violating or not

00:21:59.340 violating the Statue of Liberty law of the land? Brutal. It goes on like that for about seven

00:22:04.060 minutes. I actually couldn't cut it anymore. Paul, I'm not familiar with international law,

00:22:09.420 but did Stephen Miller technically commit a war crime in his Smackdown of CNN?

00:22:14.060 Oh, lock him up, Michael. Lock him up. Lock him up. He triggered me. He, you know, he, I,

00:22:20.220 my safe space was violated, you know, by the idea, the very idea that a government can put up standards

00:22:26.780 as to who they can let in and let out of their borders is just extremely offensive. I mean,

00:22:32.540 I mean, call UN, you know, call the courts. Yeah, absolutely lock him up.

00:22:36.060 Roaming, this issue, illegal immigration has been a major issue for the last 10, 15 years.

00:22:41.100 And they've even accused those who want to limit illegal immigration of bigotry. But the issue of

00:22:45.820 limiting legal immigration hasn't really been discussed very much since maybe the 90s, maybe the

00:22:50.780 early 90s. And now I think it's clouded over with a great sense that if you want to limit legal

00:22:56.140 immigration, you're a bigot. Is it a legitimate opinion to say that a country should decide who

00:23:01.660 comes in and who comes out? I mean, legitimate opinion is, is such a,

00:23:07.500 such a broad term, right? I think it's not a racist opinion.

00:23:11.500 That is what I'm asking. Is it, is it racist? Is it bigoted to say we don't want as many people

00:23:16.540 from this country? We want more people from this country and more people with these degrees? 1.00

00:23:20.220 Absolutely not. And actually, you know, I'm, I'm an immigrant myself. I went to the US as an

00:23:26.620 international student for college after that, you know, student visa. After that, I got my OPT visa.

00:23:31.100 Then I did the long, arduous and expensive process of applying for a green card. You know, I've,

00:23:35.660 I've been through the system. And so, you know, what really bothers me is when people try to make it

00:23:40.860 seem like caring about immigration and wanting more skilled immigrants is somehow like racist or

00:23:46.860 anti-immigrant. It is neither of those things. And I think, you know, immigrants who actually

00:23:51.020 want the best for the United States and want to be, uh, you know, economic benefits to the United

00:23:55.340 States, they should understand that, hey, you know, this, this is a, this is a country where,

00:24:00.620 you know, welfare is already high. Uh, you know, the, the number of unskilled laborers is, is already

00:24:05.980 perhaps higher than the number of jobs for them. So, you know, do, do we want to bring in more people

00:24:10.460 who are going to compete with the most economically vulnerable people in the society? And, you know,

00:24:14.540 the answer is no. And what's so funny is that the people who are, who are against any sort of

00:24:19.020 skills or means testing for immigration, what they're actually in favor for is bringing in

00:24:23.500 people who are going to, again, compete with people who are the most vulnerable in American

00:24:27.580 society. So, you know, if you actually care about the American poor, this is a great policy.

00:24:31.900 That's right. You want skills.

00:24:32.940 If it were all roaming millennials coming across that Mexican border, I think we would all be Democrats. 1.00

00:24:37.820 Is that fair to say? I think that's fair to say. Amanda, a CNN reporter says that the poem that he

00:24:43.020 references is at the Statue of Liberty, but CNN is fake news. So is it possible that there's no poem at

00:24:49.420 all? Oh, that's, that's probably actually right. But I was unaware that poetry was, uh, U S law.

00:24:58.140 Whenever that, whenever that, yes. So whenever that happened, like, I wish I knew that during the

00:25:02.700 Obama years, I have, I have, you know, I can write some poetry. Um, but it's just, it's unbelievable.

00:25:08.140 First of all, Miller for president, Stephen Miller. He's tremendous. He is my favorite guy in that

00:25:14.060 administration. Oh, just so smart. Annihilated Acosta. And this is, this brings up one other

00:25:19.900 point that's kind of not that relevant, but there should not be cameras in these press briefings,

00:25:25.100 because this is what happens. This is just more confirmation that we should get those cameras out.

00:25:28.940 The grandstanding showboating. Absolutely. Yeah, it's ridiculous. But as opposed to,

00:25:35.260 I mean, just with regard to policy, this is actually really good policy. And this has to

00:25:39.740 do with green cards. So all like the agricultural stuff they're talking about is like a different,

00:25:43.740 it's not even with this policy. So I don't even know if they, if he understands what he's talking

00:25:47.820 about. And when it comes to speaking English, it's on a point system. So if you don't speak English,

00:25:52.380 you can still get in. You just don't get that point. So he's just wrong on so many levels.

00:25:56.860 He must've gotten lost in that beautiful, beautiful poetry. Sorry, go ahead.

00:25:59.980 Is he even pretending to be a reporter and objective at all at this point? Because you're,

00:26:05.420 you're literally an open border advocate at this point, right? You're arguing that they shouldn't

00:26:09.900 need to speak English. Like what, how is that? How's that journalism? How is that reporting?

00:26:14.460 You know, it's funny. I spent an afternoon one time with Jim Acosta. He came up to Yale because he was

00:26:19.740 covering a campaign that we were running there and he wasn't like this. He was actually just kind of a

00:26:25.020 TV newsman. He didn't seem to care at all about politics. Uh, I would say a little bit like that

00:26:31.100 Will Ferrell version of an anchor man in that movie. And now he's the biggest political activist in the

00:26:35.580 world. Who knows what a Trump derangement syndrome must be. Yeah. He got a taste of fame.

00:26:40.140 He got, that's right. Speaking of the presidential politics and endless immigration, Mark Zuckerberg,

00:26:47.180 the CEO of Facebook has hired Joel Benenson, a democratic pollster and the chief strategist for

00:26:53.020 Hillary 2016 to, uh, fuel rumors that the Zuck will run for president roaming. If Mark Zuckerberg

00:26:59.260 is so smart, why would he hire the strategist of the worst campaign ever?

00:27:05.260 Well, you know what? I, I believe in multiple intelligences, right? I think he's probably,

00:27:09.340 you know, gifted program or stuff like that. I think if the social network or whatever that movie

00:27:13.660 was taught us anything is that he may not be the best read on people. That's a very diplomatic way

00:27:19.500 of putting it. Amanda. Yeah, he may, I mean. Sorry, go ahead. Gender may not be on a spectrum,

00:27:25.260 but there's a good chance he might be. And you know, just like the decisions he's made about this.

00:27:30.380 I mean, I think we found the Zuck 2016 slogan. That's the, that's the bumper sticker slogan.

00:27:36.700 Amanda, what do you think we can look forward to in a Zuckerberg administration?

00:27:40.300 Uh, there, there won't be one. He, Hillary Clinton is more charismatic than Mark Zuckerberg. 1.00

00:27:48.620 A rock has a better personality than Mark Zuckerberg. It's, it's going to be tough for

00:27:52.460 him to win anything. He does have a ton of money and a ton of power. I understand that,

00:27:56.380 but he has a ton of data too. He knows everything about us. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it'd be terrifying

00:28:02.060 if he was, uh, if he actually did win. Um, but I think luckily I think we can bank on his terrible

00:28:07.900 personality and his zero charisma that he, he's not going to go anywhere. And then he's relying

00:28:12.300 on Hillary people. Has he not read Shattered? I mean, did he not know who won the election?

00:28:17.340 Who knew big brother would be so dweeby by the, probably everybody, I guess. Paul,

00:28:21.260 could Zuckerberg defeat Trump? Does he stand a chance or no?

00:28:25.340 Uh, no way. No, no way. I mean, it's pretty much just like, he represents everything that,

00:28:30.540 that Hillary represents, uh, in many ways. I mean, he's a Silicon Valley elitist. Uh,

00:28:36.060 he has no relationship whatsoever to people in the Midwest, uh, or especially, uh, Donald Trump's,

00:28:43.580 uh, working class base. Uh, no, I think he'd get creamed in election. I almost think he'd probably 1.00

00:28:48.220 lose in an even bigger landslide than Hillary. You heard it here first. Vox Dei, Vox Populi. 0.73

00:28:53.260 Paul Bois has settled it. All right, you get out of here. It's been great to have you. Amanda

00:28:56.860 Presto Giacomo, Romney Millennial and Paul Bois. Now for the first time ever, we're going to do the

00:29:01.660 Michael Knowles show mailbag. This is great. Okay. So some of these came in tweets cause we

00:29:07.900 didn't have it set up on the website yet. So they'll be kind of quick, uh, from Joel.

00:29:12.460 What are staff meetings like when a papist, a Jew and a Protestant all have their own podcasts? 0.77

00:29:17.740 I don't know, but we have them in a bar. Hmm. It's a lame joke. Adrian says,

00:29:23.500 can you give me some tips for the SAT? I'm assuming you had a near perfect score. Thank you

00:29:27.980 very much for the compliment. I can give you some, it's kind of funny. So now the SAT is two parts,

00:29:32.780 math and verbal, and it used to be two parts, math and verbal. But when I took it for like five

00:29:36.940 minutes, they had a third part and I did get a perfect score on two parts on math and verbal,

00:29:42.220 but I didn't get a perfect score on, on the third part, which was writing, which, uh, depending on how

00:29:46.860 you look at it is either ironic or manifest and obvious given my literary endeavors, uh, from Madison

00:29:54.620 Han. That question was intentionally left blank. I think you really get us here at the Michael

00:29:59.660 Knowles show. Great, great question. Uh, from Kristen, Mr. Knowles, first of all,

00:30:04.620 the show is great. Thank you very much. My question is simply to satisfy my curiosity.

00:30:08.700 What tweet is in the frame behind you? It has to be a good one to be in such a beautiful gold frame.

00:30:14.140 I will tell you what that tweet is. It is the moment that I knew we were living in a matrix

00:30:19.180 esque simulation. It's the tweet from president Trump endorsing my book, a great book for your

00:30:24.380 reading enjoyment reasons to vote for Democrats. Thank you, president Trump. And thank you for

00:30:28.300 the question. This question from beer belly. My name is beer. Sheltiel, bell Kennessy, AKA beer belly.

00:30:36.700 Hello MK. Do you mind if I call you MK? That's what I imagined calling you. If we were close friends,

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00:30:45.980 cross-dressing homosexual female. I've been happily married for a long time, 1.00

00:30:50.060 but my wife has decided she is now a transgender, cross-dressing homosexual male. She still looks 0.99

00:30:55.100 the same, but identifies as male. Now this has created an obvious problem. Of course, I identify

00:31:00.620 as female, but she, I mean, he now identifies as male. And since I'm a homosexual and she, I mean, he

00:31:05.260 is homosexual. We no longer have an intimate relationship. Help me figure out what to do. 1.00

00:31:10.220 I think I have to defer to the expert on this from everyday feminism, Riley J. Dennis. 1.00

00:31:14.380 Would you date a trans person? Honestly? Think about it for a second. Okay. Got your answer? 0.99

00:31:20.940 Well, if you said no, I'm sorry, but that's pretty discriminatory.

00:31:24.940 Get over your bigotry beer belly. Disgusting. I can't believe these people listen to our show. 1.00

00:31:29.660 Dear Mikeliest of Knowles from Mark. I'm curious about my general date, any general dating and

00:31:35.500 relationship advice you have. Also, did you win over your fiance's love before or after you became

00:31:40.940 world famous as one of the greatest authors of all time? How important is becoming famous overnight

00:31:46.620 in having a successful relationship? I'm very glad you asked this question. I think there's a lot of

00:31:52.060 misinformation out there about this. I did not win over sweet little Elise's heart before I became famous.

00:31:57.900 I did purchase her. It was very expensive. And I think that if you're going to ground a relationship

00:32:03.900 on something that isn't as fundamental as fleeting fame or a modest windfall of money,

00:32:09.340 you're destined for failure down the road. So remember to keep the important priorities

00:32:13.260 at the top. Thank you for your question. From Asa Hoffman, why are you Catholic instead of Protestant?

00:32:19.260 Because I want to go to heaven, of course, and it's the one true church. It's a good question.

00:32:24.620 We do have here podcasts with a Jew, a Protestant, and a Catholic. I was an atheist for a long time.

00:32:30.060 I was an atheist or practical atheist until I was about 20, 22. I was actually an atheist at the

00:32:37.500 time. I was confirmed in the Catholic church, which is why I chose Thomas as my confirmation

00:32:42.140 name. I'm convinced of the Catholic church for a few reasons. I do think Peter is the rock on which

00:32:48.540 Christ built his church. I do believe in the primacy of Peter and the Petrine line. And I do think that 0.99

00:32:54.140 Christ said to Peter, you have the kingdom, the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on

00:32:58.540 earth will be bound in heaven. Whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. The apostles would

00:33:03.340 replace themselves. And I do believe in a clergy in the church. The other reason, which is, I think,

00:33:08.860 a little less rote and heard of before, is the idea that Christianity, unlike other world religions,

00:33:17.820 is a series of facts. It's not philosophy. It's not poetry exactly. It's a series of facts. A man was born

00:33:25.100 at a time in a place with bones. He wore clothes. He did things on earth. He was killed. He was

00:33:31.100 resurrected. And so it seems he had specific apostles. It wasn't a sort of simply generalized

00:33:38.460 ethereal spirit that he loosed on the world. He does talk to real people in real time. And so it seems

00:33:44.940 perfectly reasonable to me that that Messiah and that Lord would have a real church with real buildings

00:33:51.900 and real artwork on the walls and a real clergy that administers it. So that's one of the reasons,

00:33:57.100 and we can talk more about religion later on. That is all of the mailbag questions. That brings us to

00:34:02.860 the final thought.

00:34:08.220 The leftist project for centuries has sought to perfect human nature, and each social experiment

00:34:13.500 to that end has failed and left varying degrees of misery in its wake. Scientific experiments to achieve

00:34:19.580 that goal may prove more effective, but by no means any more desirable. Winston Churchill warned of

00:34:25.340 another scheme to craft the master race that we might sink into the abyss of a new dark age made more

00:34:31.340 sinister and perhaps more protracted by the lights of perverted science. Perhaps we should take a moment

00:34:37.340 to unpervert our philosophy and culture before we embrace a science with the potential to destroy our humanity

00:34:43.660 itself. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. No more shows this week. Tune back in Monday and we'll see you then.

The Michael Knowles Show - August 03, 2017

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