Ep. 426 - The Kids Are Not Alright
Summary
Students at George Washington University shrieked and they screamed and they stormed out during my speech defending George Washington. Meanwhile, students at the Catholic Notre Dame University performed slam poetry and accused their classmates of murder because they espoused Catholic social views.
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Last night, leftist students at George Washington University shrieked and they screamed and they
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stormed out during my speech because I defended George Washington at George Washington University.
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Meanwhile, students at the Catholic Notre Dame University performed slam poetry and accused
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their classmates of murder because, wait for it, those classmates espoused Catholic social
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Conservatives' knee-jerk reaction to these kids is to blame them as wacky and snowflakes
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and all of that's obviously true, but we will examine whether or not there is some deeper
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reason why the kids obviously are not all right.
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Then, a profoundly moving moment at Amber Geiger's murder trial, Maxine Waters' chickens
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I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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So I'm at George Washington University last night in D.C.
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and this is the third stop on this year's campus tour on the Men Are Not Women and Other
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Uncomfortable Truths tour. And the reason the tour is called Men Are Not Women and Other
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Uncomfortable Truths is because last spring, when I was at the University of Missouri-Kansas
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City, I gave what I figured was my blandest speech ever, which was called Men Are Not
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Women. If you'd gone back three years and told somebody that this would be a controversial
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speech, they would laugh in your face. But at that speech, the students shrieked and
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they screamed and they stormed out and one guy attacked me with a super soaker full
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of we don't know what kind of creepy chemicals. So I thought that was it. That was the peak
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of basic facts about life that could make left-wingers irate. Until I went to George Washington
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University because I was invited to George Washington University to give a speech defending
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George Washington and specifically their mascot, which is George the Colonial, who is George
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Washington. I figured this should be pretty easy. Not only am I defending one of the greatest
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men to ever live in the father of our country, first in war, first in peace, and first in
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the hearts of his countrymen, I'm doing it at George Washington University. And I know
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the universities are crazy now, but you figure if you choose to go to a university called
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George Washington University, probably you at least don't hate George Washington. I was
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so wrong, how wrong I was. I'm giving the speech, about 10 minutes in, some alarm goes off.
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And as I'm just describing some of George Washington's historical feats, some pretty basic aspect of
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Washington's life, these students leap to their feet and start shrieking profanities, vulgarities,
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F you, F you, you're a fascist. And I was standing there asking them, what did I say that you object
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to? What did I say that is making you call me all these things and making you have this hysterical,
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emotional breakdown in a classroom? None of them could give any sort of answer. Here's just a short
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These guys are really proving me wrong. You see, because my purpose was, that these students,
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So it's hard to hear over the shrieks and the shame and fascists and all this.
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But what I mentioned is that a lot of the reason why left-wingers at colleges get upset by George Washington
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or they get upset by Christopher Columbus or they get upset by America itself
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is because of ignorance, because they're uneducated.
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But they're particularly uneducated these days because they have not been taught the history of their own country.
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And in many ways, they've been taught an anti-history of their country,
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written by left-wing polemicists like Howard Zinn, for instance, who wrote People's History of the United States.
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And then right on cue, these kids jump up and start shrieking nonsense.
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And I said, you know, you're really not disproving my point here, kids.
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If the point you're trying to make is that you're really not uneducated and you're really not emotionally volatile and wacky,
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then probably this is not the sort of behavior you should engage in.
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So the kids finally storm out and we go on with the rest of the lecture.
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This has happened to me a few times on campuses.
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Ironically, it always happens when I'm discussing the blandest topics.
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But I notice in this culture, it's the most basic truths that are the truths that the left wants to deny.
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They have to force you to not believe your own lying eyes.
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So they have to force you not to believe that men are different than women.
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They have to force you to believe that men are the same as women.
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And if you challenge this, then they'll shriek at you.
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They have to force you to believe that your country, America, is just absolutely rotten to the core and nobody's more rotten than the founder of the country.
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And if you say, no, that really isn't backed up by any historical evidence, they'll shriek and they'll scream and they'll shout.
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It's very easy to just laugh at the snowflakes and drink their leftist tears.
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But also, we need to ask ourselves, why is this happening?
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What does it say about the culture and how can we fix it?
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I was actually defending another historical figure.
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But just this week, we had a bunch of students put out this video and it went viral on the internet where the students were lambasting their classmates for holding Catholic views.
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So this was a group of leftist students who were accusing their classmates of being homophobic and transphobic and murderers even because they believe in Christian sexual ethics, because they believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church.
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I know that I don't need to remind you, Notre Dame means Our Lady.
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Notre Dame is a Catholic university, or at least it used to be.
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It's really the most famous Catholic university in the United States.
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And these students who chose to go to Notre Dame, who are Notre Dame students, they went there.
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It's like the students who choose to go to George Washington University, even though they hate George Washington.
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These are students who chose to go to a Catholic university, are shocked and appalled that some of their classmates are Catholics.
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And they're shocked and appalled and they want to shut them down.
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And they want these students not to be allowed to have their clubs and not to be allowed to publish their thoughts and to espouse Catholic social views.
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So they decided the best way that they could get their message out was through performance art and slam poetry.
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Slam poetry is, I know it's not considered a crime in the U.S. legal code, though of course it should be.
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And I intend to lobby my congressman to make it a crime.
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But this is the way they do it because the left loves this form of art.
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And they love all forms of art that are destructive and ugly.
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So here is just a little taste of these kids, these leftist students at Notre Dame, lambasting, baselessly smearing their classmates of murder because they can't understand why students at a Catholic university might be Catholic.
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Your homophobic discourse soiled my air supply.
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Your ivory tower theology slit my loved one's throats.
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I'm trying to go to class without dead friends in my backpack.
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Just trying to touch my girl's shoulder in the grass.
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You want to unaffirm me, to lobotomize me with a crowbar.
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While the murdered trans angels, 18 this year yet, leak brimstone into your praying mouths.
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Students for Child-Oriented Policy, Irish Rover.
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You say my piece had violent undertones, that it drew hostile attention.
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You say expressing a Catholic viewpoint should not be equated to committing a heinous crime.
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You contrasted your reasoned opinion with my intellectual chaos that you are targeted.
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But I must respectfully say that the blood on your names did not come from you or the hate groups you've been inviting to speak on campus.
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Your reasoned opinions seep into churches, into culture.
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They diffuse like venomous gas from every outlet.
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At one point, a girl takes a crowbar to a list of the students' names and starts banging.
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And obviously, obviously, these kids are ignorant and uncultured and prideful.
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And they produce terrible, terrible, terrible art.
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And what they're saying is very, very interesting and important.
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What that girl just said is that reasoned arguments are venomous.
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That reason itself, logic, the interpretation of facts to produce a coherent argument, is venomous, poison, destructive.
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So the kids at Notre Dame obviously have some issues going on, and they're producing this
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terrible art, and it's so incoherent, it's laughable that they choose to go to a Catholic
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university named after Our Lady, and then they're shocked and appalled and horrified because some
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I bet not even most of the students are practicing Catholics, but just some of them are, and they
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espouse Catholic views, and you're not allowed to do that at a Catholic school.
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First of all, on the broader political point, what this shows us is a big aspect of this
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And whatever you think about those two guys, and whatever even you think about the debate,
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the premise here, the premise that Sohrab Amari is attacking, whether you think it's fair
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or not, the premise is that in the liberal society, we're not going to make any grand
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We're not going to, everything's just going to be neutral, and what the religious conservatives
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and Sohrab are saying is there's no such thing as neutrality like that.
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Everybody's got to serve somebody, and so the liberal society is going to enshrine certain
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virtues and moral precepts, and those will either be conducive to the good or will be
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The other thing he's going after is that in this kind of liberal idea, we'll just carve
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out one little section of society for religion, and look, you can practice your religion there,
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and you're not going to be able to practice it everywhere, but you practice it there, and
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When you have that little cut out for religion, they're just going to go after that next.
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And if you look at this story, it's hard to disagree with them.
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We're not just talking about a religious institution.
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We're talking about the Catholic university in America, Notre Dame.
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The students are trying to shut down Catholicism in Notre Dame.
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And by the way, increasingly, they're being successful.
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That school has really gone downhill in recent years.
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It shows you, gosh, we really are in the midst of a culture war.
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Cardinal Manning said that at bottom, all political disagreements are theological disagreements,
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and we are fighting, in many ways, a religious war.
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It's not a religious war between Catholics and Protestants or between Muslims and Christians
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It's a religious war between the religious, those who have traditional religion, and this
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It's a religious war between those people who go to church and those people who worship at
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the altar of the sun monster in climate change.
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It's the kooky, materialist religions of the left versus traditional religion.
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When it comes to the kids, though, what to do about these shrieking, crazy, wacky, uneducated
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It reminds me of John Stuart Mill's description of the difference between a conservative and
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So the philosopher, John Stuart Mill, says, the radical, the rationalist, the follower
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of Jeremy Bentham looks at a received opinion and he asks, is it true?
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The conservative, like Thomas Carlyle, looks at a received opinion and says, what does it
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And I think that's a helpful way to look at the kids.
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I mean, we should laugh and make fun of the hysterics, but we should also ask the question,
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What does it mean that these students who are very privileged, who are materially very well
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off, even the ones who aren't well off, are very well off.
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They're at expensive schools in the richest country in the history of the world.
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What does it mean that they are losing their minds?
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I was talking to a friend of mine last night after the speech at GW, and she's very insightful
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And she said, it's easy enough to say that these kids are totally lunatics to be upset,
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I've talked to enough of these students to know.
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They are genuinely irate, furious, maddened, and losing it.
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The question is, what are these kids upset about?
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The ones at GW, the ones at Notre Dame, the ones that you see on viral videos at campuses
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The conservatives look at them often and we say, you kids are rich kids.
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But something tells me they're not upset about their material prosperity, okay?
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Even people who are struggling financially at various periods, still doing pretty great
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because we live in an unbelievably rich country.
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Now, the answer, shut up, stop complaining, you've got iPads, you've got iPhones, you've
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got lots of good money, that's a flippant answer because we say that on the one hand, and
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then on the other hand, conservatives know that the world is not just material.
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Ronald Reagan famously quoted Winston Churchill who said, when great forces are on the move
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in the world, we learn that we're spirits, not animals.
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The destiny of man is not measured by material computation.
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We're not, it's not like I'm not physical at all, but it's that old adage, money can't
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Money can buy a jet ski and people are happy on jet skis, but you're not on a jet ski all
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You're on a jet ski at most, what, an hour a day if you're near the water?
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And so to take right off what these kids are saying and say, well, say you're rich kids,
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So they're not, I don't think they're upset about money.
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Yeah, I guess they're upset that their preferred politician lost in 2016.
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I mean, there was a study that came out of, I think it was ASU, which showed that 25% of
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college students surveyed reported PTSD-like effects months and months after the presidential
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election because their candidate lost and another candidate won.
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I mean, that's crazy stuff, but they really did show clinically high levels of stress.
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It means maybe they've been taught a version of American politics that isn't true.
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And maybe our political institutions have been degraded and maybe faith in our systems of
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They damn well should be upset about the culture.
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In the mid 20th century, huge numbers of Americans, perhaps the majority, subscribed to symphonies,
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And even for the people who weren't going to symphonies, virtually everybody was a member
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The same free associations that Alexis de Tocqueville talked about in Democracy in America.
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The Lions Club, the Kiwanis Club, the Bowling League.
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People were members of those and they would go out and see their fellow Americans and have
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And people increasingly don't know their fellow Americans.
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The irony is, I've lived in cities most of my life.
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You know many more people when you live in a small town than you do when you live in a city.
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I would live in cities in New York with hundreds and hundreds of people, maybe more than that.
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I knew like five of them because you just don't meet your neighbors.
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When you're in a city, you just kind of keep your head down.
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When you're in a small town, you know everybody.
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I think young people increasingly have every right to be upset about their culture.
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And maybe they're misplacing that anger onto some politician or some conservative speaker on campus.
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Or they're putting it on George Washington or Christopher Columbus.
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And then most importantly, you got the politics.
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Because by and large and increasingly, they have been denied religion.
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It's not even that they've been taught some religion that isn't true or they were brought to the wrong church and they want to go to a different church.
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They've been denied serious religious education.
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They've been denied the very fact that they are spiritual beings.
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Increasingly, children are being raised without religion.
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And so they channel their natural religious longings.
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Or they misplace that into their favorite online personality.
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And we were in this beautiful little private residence.
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And someone was playing a Chopin Nocturne on the piano.
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Listening quietly to this beautiful performance of a Chopin Nocturne.
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Slightly drunken performance, but still excellent.
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And my friend turned and pointed outside and he said, so many people out there don't even know this exists.
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I'm not saying that you need to sit quietly and listen to Chopin Nocturne all the time.
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It's really nice to know that those things exist.
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It's the same difference between, you know, you love Hershey's chocolate.
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But I like it less now than I used to when I was a kid.
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And the reason I like it less now is because I've discovered other things that I like on my taste palette.
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Or as you are educated, and I don't mean that book learning.
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I mean as you grow and mature as a human being, your tastes change.
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And it's not just the taste you put in your mouth.
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It's the tastes, your intellectual tastes, your music tastes, your artistic tastes.
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And so they're still stuck with those basic things.
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How kids think, you know, when they're little, they say all they want is chocolate and candy.
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So, you know, when they get a little bit older and they learn about that, they say,
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Oh, no, I was wrong about the chocolate and the candy.
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There is something better than chocolate and candy.
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But for this whole generation, because they've been denied culture, because they've been denied education,
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We see anxiety, depression, stress are way up among these kids.
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Among teenagers, suicidality is up 70% in just the last two years.
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And they're not upset about George Washington and Catholic sexual ethics.
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They're upset that our politics is shallower, that our culture is degraded,
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and that they have no freaking clue what they were made for and why.
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There's a viral video that just came out of a Michigan congressman, Haley Stevens,
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shrieking, shrieking at her constituents like those leftists at GW,
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She would fit right in with the slam poetry girls.
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She's shrieking about our civil right to own a firearm.
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She's shrieking about a civil rights organization existing to protect those rights.
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The NRA, our right to lobby our representatives in the First Amendment, that's got to go.
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She just, she doesn't understand what the NRA is.
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She doesn't understand what our constitution is.
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In part, it's her fault because she's an overgrown child.
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But in part, she was obviously denied a proper education.
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She is now complaining because she can't go out to the store.
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I mean, I can't go to the grocery store anymore by myself.
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They have security for me now when I go to campuses because people attack me.
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And I think it's wrong that they attack Maxine Waters.
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I wonder where they got the idea that they could just go out and attack politicians.
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I wonder where these terrible people might have heard that they could go out and attack
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I wonder if they heard it from, um, checking my notes, uh, Maxine Waters.
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If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station,
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you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they're
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That's, that's probably where they heard it from.
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So Maxine, sorry, you know, maybe you planted the seeds.
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A society that says, mob your politicians and mob your historical figures and get rid
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of George Washington, get rid of Columbus, shriek at your classmates, hate everybody.
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Half the country is deplorable and irredeemable.
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And there was a moment, there was a moment that did go viral yesterday at the trial of
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former Dallas police department officer, Amber Geiger, that shows you the alternative.
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Amber Geiger shot this poor guy, Botham Jean, in his own apartment.
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She thought that she was entering her apartment.
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She was on the wrong floor and she saw him sitting on what she thought was her couch.
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She shoots him dead, but it was his couch in his apartment.
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She was, she was found guilty of murder and the deceased man's brother came out and made
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We'll get to the mailbag too, but first I got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube.
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I mean, it is, it is really powerful and we talk all the time about how conservatives
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You get all that great stuff and you get to ask questions in the mailbag, which we're
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So you've got this awful, shallow society, vindictive society that hates one another.
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And then you have this scene from the trial of Amber Geiger.
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Amber Geiger, former Dallas police officer, shoots Botham Jean dead in his own apartment
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because she thinks that she was in her apartment, which I guess was a couple of floors away.
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She's found guilty of murder, not even manslaughter, but murder.
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And she was sentenced yesterday to 10 years in prison.
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And the deceased man's, I mean, he was, I think the guy was 26 years old, shot dead in
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And even the fact that she didn't mean to do it, she just got the apartment wrong.
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I mean, it just, it just makes you weep for humanity and weep for yourself.
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And her, uh, the deceased man's brother made a statement at this sentencing and it was,
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It is one of the most moving videos I have ever seen.
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One of the most moving statements I've ever heard.
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And I, I wasn't gonna ever say this in front of my family or anyone, but I don't even want
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I want the best for you because I know that's what, that's exactly what both of them would
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And the best would be give your life to Christ.
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I think giving your life to Christ would be the best thing that both of them would want
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I don't know if this is possible, but can, can I give her a hug, please?
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That's a man with far greater understanding of the world than the girls on the video or
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the kids who shriek or the people who are yelling and screaming and upset and demanding
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revenge and, and being vindictive to their countrymen and calling half of them deplorable
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This woman shot his brother dead at, in his mid twenties in his own apartment.
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And he says, I don't want anything bad for you.
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He's not just doing it because of some shallow political ideology.
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He's doing it because his savior lives and he's been commanded to do that by the man
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This isn't even the same as protesting justice.
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Shakespeare writes, the quality of mercy is not strained.
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It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven upon the place beneath.
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It becomes the throned monarch better than his crown.
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His scepter shows the force of temporal power, the attribute to awe and majesty, wherein doth
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And we're only going to get that society back if we behave that way too.
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It's why when people scream and shout at me, whether it's on television or on camera or anything
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like that at one of these campuses, I do my best.
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I don't always succeed, but I do my best not to give it right back to them, not to get angry
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These people are very confused in this culture.
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And there's a lot of pain and there's original sin and there's a fallen world.
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And we can have, if we can show a little bit of mercy, it can be unbelievably powerful.
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And we're very likely not going to achieve even one zillionth of the grace that you see
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there with that man talking about his dead brother and the woman who killed him.
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But if you show people that society and you show people the screechy, shouty, I hate you,
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I hate you because George Washington was a fascist or something.
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There's no question that we, we want to live in the former, the society of mercy and grace.
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And for the uneducated, ignorant, uncultured, anxiety ridden, stressed out young people,
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I think the big problem is they don't even know that that society can exist.
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All right, we've got to get to the mailbag in our last moments.
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Will we see an impact on the youngest generation as adults due to today's twisted gender norms,
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Well, of course, it's a funny, funny question to ask on this show.
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I think the show basically answers that question itself.
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Not only will we see the impact, but we're seeing the impact now.
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We're seeing it in the rates of anxiety, stress, suicidality in the, the prescription of
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psychiatric medications and depression pills, even to teenagers, even to 12 year olds.
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But we're seeing the effects now of this kind of confusion.
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And it's not merely a scientific confusion, though there's a lot of that.
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It is a metaphysical, spiritual, and religious confusion as well.
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And what's so ironic about it is so much of the argument from the atheist left is we need
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We need to stop talking about the world as though God made it.
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Because only then can we get to scientific reality.
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We now no longer admit that men are different than women.
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We now castrate young children and block them from going through puberty because their parents
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think in some metaphysical way their little boys are actually little girls.
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The moment we severed religious reality from public life, we didn't get more science.
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And we got pseudo-scientific cultist movements like the cult of catastrophic climate change
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You don't, you don't lose religion and get more science.
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Because of course, science is predicated on certain religious premises and on faith.
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We're seeing the impact today and young people are a crystal ball.
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We're seeing that in that congresswoman who's 36 years old now.
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And if we're not going to fix that problem, it's only going to get worse.
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From Connor, I find it more difficult to keep up with local politics in comparison to
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Can you provide advice on some of the factors or qualities you look for when choosing who
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to vote for in local elections, especially when candidates may campaign on platforms you
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are less familiar with or which seem to be indistinguishable from the field?
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So Tip O'Neill, the Democratic Speaker of the House, used to say all politics is local.
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That might have been true even as late as the 80s or 90s, but it is not true today.
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Now all elections are referenda on national politics.
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So when you're voting and, you know, especially in L.A., you get all these different candidates
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and they hide their political views and you can't even see the political affiliation.
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This is one of the reasons political parties exist is because they show you what the differences
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So there's no way you're going to have time to research every single candidate for every
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That's why if you tend to be more conservative, usually it makes sense to vote for the Republican.
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If you tend to be more leftist, usually it makes sense to vote for the Democrat.
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Sometimes candidates, there are Republican candidates who are really just terrible people
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and there are Democratic candidates who are actually more conservative and more reliable.
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So occasionally it makes sense to vote for the other person.
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You'll know who those people are if they run a good campaign.
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And if they run the good campaign, then maybe that's evidence that you should vote for them.
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You'll know who those people are if you meet one of those Republicans.
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I voted against Republicans before because I met him and I knew they were just sociopaths
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So I'm not going to vote for that person, even though they say that they believe what I
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I can't trust that they'll even do the people's work.
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Look, the party, I know it's very fashionable these days to say parties are a terrible thing
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And the other good way to do it is to judge people on their campaigns.
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And nobody would have put their money on Donald Trump in 2014, 2015.
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And yet he ran the best campaign and he's been a, and by the way, we didn't even know
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his religious affiliation because he'd worked with Democrats so much of his life.
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That's, that, that would be a good guide on the national level, even at local politics.
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From Lena, I'm a hard worker and I've been putting in 10 to 12 hour days for the past
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Now I'm starting to feel burnt out and I find it a bit depressing to think that this is just
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I'm torn between making a steady paycheck or taking a leap and seeing what else is out
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You asked the wrong person, Lena, if you want the advice to stay in your steady job because,
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but I bet you're asking the question because you know, that's not the advice I'm going to
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I have done my best in my life to avoid stable and steady employment.
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The two industries that I've worked in, usually simultaneously, are politics and show business.
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The most volatile industries that very often have nothing to do with even talent or skill
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or hard work and are largely based on chance, although I do think actually work pays off
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I have gone through huge periods of unemployment.
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I have had massive ups and massive downs in those industries and I wouldn't change it for
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Now, the funny thing about this is I work 10 to 12 hour days.
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It doesn't feel like it if you're doing what you really want to be doing and you feel like
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you're having some impact in the work that you're doing matters.
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I would take a leap and do what you want to do.
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I think some people hear this and they say, okay, great.
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I'm going to move to Hollywood and not have any other job and not have any income and I'm
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just going to be a big movie star or I'm going to go into politics and I'm going to
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You got to, if you want to do something that you really, really want to do that's in a high
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If 12 hour days are too much, you're going to have to work a lot more than that.
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If you find it's not fulfilling in life, you can find fulfillment elsewhere.
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You can find fulfillment in your civic associations and of course you can find fulfillment in your
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Doesn't mean that everybody needs to go out there and become a movie star or run for president.
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But what it, what it does mean is everything is going to have those costs and what it also
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You, you didn't choose when to be born into this world.
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Most likely you're not going to have any say in how you go out and you're going to get
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to the end of your life and you may have regrets.
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You want to do the right thing and, and, and not feel that you squandered the precious
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And when, when you've really got nothing to lose, all you've got to do is do the right
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So I, I'm not going to tell you which one to do.
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Keep the stable job or go out and do some crazy thing.
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I don't even know what, what it would be that you want to do, but you do have, life
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is all about those choices and you do have nothing to lose.
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It's worked out, but I know a lot of people who burned out along the way from Tanner.
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Is there any modern music or genre that you genuinely enjoy?
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I'm the only heterosexual man in America that likes Paul McCartney's band Wings.
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I, in terms of like really, I mean, I, when I can say modern, I'm talking about post-World
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I, I obviously love the American Songbook guys.
00:45:55.540
I used to think Nickelback was the worst band that was ever graced any stage in America.
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But then President Trump sent out that tweet, that look at this photograph tweet.
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He took Nickelback and used it as a just cudgel against Joe Biden and the Democrats.
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And it really gave me a strange new respect for Nickelback.
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