The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 431 - LOLing At The LGBTQ Town Hall

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00:00:44.140 LGBT LMNOP town hall. We examine why Democrats are willing to risk 100% of their electability,

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00:03:27.060 All right. So many days to cover. Columbus Day, National Coming Out Day, LGBTQ Town Hall Day on

00:03:34.380 CNN. They actually called it the Equality Town Hall. They didn't use the accurate description,

00:03:42.600 which is it was a town hall about these different sexual identities and sexual preferences. They have

00:03:46.440 to say equality, and the euphemism tells you a lot. But first, I did a little math. I did a little

00:03:51.820 math because the left is always trying to bring out identity politics and different victim groups

00:03:58.000 and pander to each of these groups. So I thought, okay, the left does this on the basis of race,

00:04:05.100 on the basis of sex, and now on the basis of sexual and gender identity and sexual preference.

00:04:10.040 So I did some math. Black people who constitute 12% of the population only get 8.3% of the calendar 1.00

00:04:19.520 year. This is because there's February, it's Black History Month. Women constitute 50.8% of the 0.91

00:04:28.280 population. Over half of the population is women. They also only get 8.3% of the calendar year.

00:04:35.260 They get Women's History Month, which is in March. LGBTQ on and on and on people who constitute at 0.80

00:04:44.000 most 4.5% of the population, that's the current estimate, get 16.7% of the calendar because they

00:04:52.640 get Pride Month, which is in June, and they get October, which is LGBTQ History Month declared so 0.94

00:04:58.680 by Barack Obama with National Coming Out Day and all these different sexual days. How does that work?

00:05:03.840 How did the left decide that they were going to pander to black people for less of the calendar

00:05:10.400 year than they constituted the population, that they were going to pander to women way less of the 0.87

00:05:15.000 calendar year than they are by population or than they would deserve by population, and that they are

00:05:20.560 going to pander to this relatively small and also very, very diverse sexual identity group for a

00:05:28.000 hugely disproportionate amount of time. Well, not only was it a hugely disproportionate amount of

00:05:34.040 time in the calendar year, it was a hugely disproportionate amount of time on the CNN town

00:05:37.860 hall. I cannot believe that I watched this whole thing. I had very prominent people in the news media

00:05:44.400 and in conservative politics messaging me, thanking me for watching the four and a half hour LGBTQ town

00:05:51.960 hall on CNN so that they didn't have to. It just occurred to me that the number of hours of the

00:05:56.560 town hall corresponds to the percent of the population that identifies as LGBT. So they called

00:06:02.580 it the equality town hall. That is a euphemism. What is equality? I mean, equality, that could be any

00:06:08.720 town hall. You could be talking about mathematics. You could be talking about political rights. You could

00:06:12.040 be talking, I guess, about sexual identity, but that wouldn't be at the top of the list.

00:06:16.080 The euphemism is the key. People use euphemisms when they are trying to conceal the truth.

00:06:24.000 This is what political correctness is. This is what so much of the Trump era has been about

00:06:28.460 revealing. And that's what we talk about on this show a lot. You use euphemisms to conceal the truth.

00:06:34.560 Now, sometimes you do it out of politeness. So when you see an old woman, you don't call her an old

00:06:39.360 woman. You call her a woman of a certain age. And that's, this is a sort of polite euphemism 0.90

00:06:44.520 so that you don't sound like you're insulting somebody. Sometimes it's not about politeness.

00:06:49.520 Sometimes the deception is much more nefarious. So you'll say undocumented Americans instead of

00:06:55.540 illegal alien. Why do you say undocumented Americans? You don't say it to be polite to 1.00

00:07:00.140 somebody because usually you're not using it in a personal context. You're using it in a public

00:07:04.340 debate. And you use that euphemism or the left wants you to use that euphemism so that they win

00:07:10.200 the debate before the debate's already begun. Because if you have a debate over what should

00:07:14.100 we do about illegal aliens, then it's pretty clear, well, they're breaking the law. They're 0.99

00:07:18.540 aliens, which means they're foreign nationals. So I guess we should probably take them out of our 1.00

00:07:22.300 country and bring them back to the countries that they're citizens of. But if you start your debate,

00:07:28.140 not using that accurate and clinical term, but you use this euphemism, undocumented Americans,

00:07:34.540 what should we do about undocumented Americans? Well, they're Americans after all.

00:07:37.800 Well, I guess, I guess they're, they're certainly going to stay here. We're not going to deport 0.99

00:07:41.600 Americans. Well, are they Americans? They don't, they're not citizens. They don't. Yeah. Well, 1.00

00:07:46.740 they're not citizens because they don't have any documents. It's not because they're actually not

00:07:50.980 citizens of the country. They just don't have documents. They're undocumented. So that's a 1.00

00:07:53.680 problem. We got to get them documents. They're undocumented Americans. The way to fix that is to get 1.00

00:07:57.660 them documents. And so you subvert the debate before it's even begun. The debate over gay

00:08:02.680 marriage, to use a more relevant example, the debate over gay marriage, what it really,

00:08:07.800 is, what is marriage? What is marriage? Define marriage for me. Describe marriage.

00:08:14.440 Well, the left would say it's a loving bond between two people. I have a loving bond with

00:08:19.920 members of my family. Am I married to my family? No. I have a loving bond with my best friend.

00:08:24.720 Are he and I married? No. Well, it's a, even if you don't think so, it's a loving bond between two

00:08:32.660 people. Okay. I have a loving bond between three people. And actually in romantic love these days,

00:08:37.120 a lot of Americans have a loving bond between multiple people at the same time. When you look

00:08:41.600 at surveys of polyamory, you've got four to 5% of people identify as polyamorous. Why is,

00:08:49.100 why is marriage a loving bond only between two people? And okay. So then they'll go on and they'll

00:08:54.040 try to whittle it down and explain. Finally, the traditional answer would be sexual difference,

00:08:59.760 men and women. Sexual difference is essential to marriage. It always has been. Sex, specifically sex, 0.98

00:09:06.320 open to the possibility of life is essential to marriage. And then you could have that debate.

00:09:11.360 That would be what that debate looks like. But that's not what the left did. What the left did

00:09:15.200 is they began with the premise that marriage is a monogamous bond between two people of any sex.

00:09:22.800 Why monogamous? Because they just arbitrarily said so. Why is that the definition? Because they began

00:09:28.560 with that premise and then the debate became over marriage equality. Who has the right to get married? 0.74

00:09:33.740 Well, if it's just about rights and equality, obviously we want everybody to be equal. Obviously,

00:09:38.460 we want everybody to have rights. They won the debate before it began because they didn't have

00:09:43.220 the debate. They just started with their own conclusion as the premise. Even the group that

00:09:48.020 pushed gay marriage or the redefinition of marriage, it's called the human rights campaign. When I think

00:09:52.280 of human rights, I think of political liberty. I think of freedom from tyranny. I think of security in

00:09:58.940 your own body, in your own property. I mean, there's so many, even if you go in a more liberal

00:10:03.600 definition of human rights, what do you think? Water, food, redefining marriage in a way that has 0.92

00:10:11.340 not been true for ever anywhere in the world. That probably is pretty low on the list of human

00:10:15.620 rights. But by naming their organization, the human rights campaign, who's going to oppose human

00:10:20.980 rights? Obviously nobody. So that's what you see here, the equality town hall. What the equality

00:10:28.060 town hall blew up for us is this idea, this lie that the whole premise of this movement to redefine

00:10:36.560 marriage, to redefine sex, the whole premise was it's a personal matter. It doesn't affect you. 0.67

00:10:41.220 What's it to you? How dare you? It's not affecting your life and it's none of your business.

00:10:47.500 Elizabeth Warren started out embracing this view in the debate when she was asked about same-sex

00:10:51.660 marriage. She was asked in the debate, what do you say to people who still abide by the definition

00:10:58.760 of marriage that has existed everywhere for all of human history, instead of the new definition

00:11:02.680 of marriage, which includes same-sex unions? Her answer is, if you don't want a same-sex marriage,

00:11:07.340 don't get one. But then listen to the little barb that comes in at the end of it.

00:11:10.720 Let's say you're on the campaign trail and you're approached.

00:11:13.160 You have been, yes. And a supporter approaches you and says, Senator, I'm old-fashioned and

00:11:20.380 my faith teaches me that marriage is between one man and one woman. What is your response?

00:11:26.440 Well, I'm going to assume it's a guy who said that. And I'm going to say, then just marry

00:11:31.480 one woman. I'm cool with that. Assuming you can find one. 1.00

00:11:41.040 Yeah, you tell them, Liz. Yeah, those idiots who believe the thing that every human has always 1.00

00:11:46.640 believed everywhere. Those guys are idiots and they're unattractive and they're terrible and 1.00

00:11:51.280 they could never find a spouse. And they're probably men and men are bad and women are good 1.00

00:11:56.460 and straight people are bad, but gay people are good or something. I don't know. It's just so the 1.00

00:12:01.700 whole town hall was just absolutely shocking pandering. But you see there, Liz Warren being

00:12:11.320 probably the most cautious candidate of any of them right now is still playing in that realm of

00:12:16.280 look, live and let live. We find out though, it's a lot more like that McCartney song. It's a lot

00:12:20.560 more like live and let die. Beto O'Rourke brings this up. He comes right out with it when he threatens

00:12:25.640 to bankrupt churches, schools and other institutions that don't buy into LGBTQ ideology.

00:12:32.480 This is from your LGBTQ plan. And here's what you write. This is a quote. Freedom of religion is a

00:12:37.180 fundamental right, but it should not be used to discriminate. Do you think religious institutions

00:12:41.480 like colleges, churches, charities, should they lose their tax exempt status if they oppose same

00:12:47.640 sex marriage? Yes. There can be no reward, no benefit, no tax break for anyone or any institution,

00:12:58.900 any organization in America that denies the full human rights and the full civil rights of every

00:13:04.560 single one of us. And so as president, we're going to make that a priority and we are going to stop

00:13:09.260 those who are infringing upon the human rights of our fellow Americans. Hell yes, we're going to take

00:13:14.240 away your churches. Beto, are you going to take away our AR-15s? Hell yes. Beto, are you going to

00:13:19.940 take away our churches if the churches don't want to redefine marriage? Hell yes, we're going to take 0.99

00:13:24.920 it away. Beto O'Rourke does this thing that the left must hate him for, which is the conservative and

00:13:30.520 social conservative argument is always, we can't do this thing because if we do this thing, pretty soon

00:13:37.240 we'll do that thing. It's the slippery slope argument. And what the left has always said is no way.

00:13:42.580 What? Just because we do this thing doesn't mean we're going to do that thing. Just because we

00:13:46.020 redefine marriage doesn't mean we're going to redefine what it means to be a man and a woman.

00:13:49.340 And of course they do it anyway, but they at least pretend they're not going to. Beto is different.

00:13:53.780 You tell Beto, if we do this thing, we can't do it because then pretty soon we'll be doing that

00:14:00.180 thing. And he says, hell yes, we're going to do that thing. And I'm going to take away your churches

00:14:04.080 and your guns too. So he, that's what he does. He begins in his definition by defining this very

00:14:12.180 new, very narrow conception of marriage as a human right. But he doesn't explain why polygamy

00:14:18.760 is illegal in the United States. Some people are polyamorous. The same number of people are

00:14:23.660 polyamorous as the number of people who identify as LGBTQ. So are we denying people their human

00:14:31.560 rights in this country by not allowing polygamous marriage? That's the argument. It's the exact 1.00

00:14:40.160 same argument. And what I suspect is the vast majority of people, even those who support the

00:14:45.540 redefinition of marriage, would say, no, it's fine to exclude polygamy from the definition of marriage.

00:14:51.800 You're talking about the same exact percentage of people. You're talking about the same sort of

00:14:55.680 radicalism in redefining marriage. And in fact, in some ways, less radicalism because at least in

00:15:00.360 polygamy, you can still have sexual difference. Why is one a necessary, important human right where if

00:15:07.380 you oppose it, you're a bigot, and the other one is just totally crazy? Try to answer that question.

00:15:12.300 If you can't answer that question, maybe there's been a flaw in your logic earlier on. Booker went

00:15:16.220 even further. He said non-tax-exempt organizations would face consequences too. Not just churches and

00:15:22.220 religious schools, but even non-tax-exempt organizations that don't totally celebrate

00:15:26.700 redefining marriage or any other aspect of LGBTQ ideology would face consequences.

00:15:32.440 Then you get into the craziest pandering of all, which is the first two guys to go up on this stage

00:15:41.120 actually just started flirting with men in the audience because they're such slimy politicians 0.98

00:15:46.980 that they thought, well, I'm at the gay town hall. I guess I should probably flirt with some men. Yeah, 0.98

00:15:50.780 that'll win all for all the gay votes. So Booker comes up there and he starts talking about what a 0.97

00:15:54.920 beautiful man there is in the audience because he and Booker are both bald.

00:15:59.120 That is one of the most handsome haircuts I've seen. Were you about to say the same thing?

00:16:04.300 I was. I was going to say a nice haircut. Thank you very much.

00:16:07.440 You are a beautiful man.

00:16:11.560 All right. Many people have no idea that. Make our president bald again.

00:16:15.340 Yes. I'm here for it. All right.

00:16:18.440 Not only is Booker bad at flirting, he's obviously very awkward. He also doesn't know when to end a joke.

00:16:23.400 So just a little advice for Cory Booker. When you tell a joke and you get a laugh, move on.

00:16:29.120 Some people, they tell a joke, they get a laugh and they want to just wring it dry trying to make

00:16:32.920 a meal out of a cupcake. Come on, Senator. Then Joe Biden decides at one point he's nearly going

00:16:37.540 to kiss Anderson Cooper while he describes how Barack Obama kissed him. I went in on Monday and

00:16:43.440 all the national press saying Biden's going to really get nailed when he walks in and sees the

00:16:47.060 president every morning. He got up and he walked over to me. He said, well, you told me. He gave me a

00:16:52.420 kiss. I swear to God. Okay. Fortunately, we didn't hear a story about Barack Obama nailing

00:16:59.120 Joe Biden, but we did hear about Barack Obama kissing Joe Biden. Biden then almost kisses

00:17:03.820 Anderson Cooper. This was after he flirted with an audience member, said that the guy looked like he

00:17:08.000 was walking out of GQ. And he said during the debate, he said, when I came out and then he waited

00:17:16.400 a moment and then people applauded. So he nearly came out of the closet on the debate. The pandering

00:17:21.240 then reached a tipping point when Cory Booker decided to blame a very infamous Islamic terrorist

00:17:26.960 attack on right wing conservatives. On June 12th, 2016, I was present as a man with an assault weapon

00:17:36.180 murdered 49, mostly LGBTQ people of color at Pulse nightclub. I was very lucky to make it out. 0.99

00:17:45.220 Unfortunately, my friends were not. That night we were reminded that LGBTQ people, 1.00

00:17:50.840 specifically those of color are often too often the targets of hate violence with the rise of

00:17:58.560 violence against trans women of color. How will you ensure that law enforcement is equipped

00:18:03.660 to treat marginalized victims of crime with dignity and respect?

00:18:07.420 So first of all, very clearly, it is a national emergency. The majority of the terrorist attacks

00:18:20.160 in this country since 9-11 have been right wing extremist groups. The majority of them have been

00:18:25.100 white supremacists and hate groups. 0.97

00:18:27.900 Yeah, that's the point. We're talking about an Islamic terrorist attack at Pulse nightclub in Orlando, 0.94

00:18:33.200 where during the shooting, the Islamist shooter pledged allegiance to ISIS.

00:18:41.340 So that's why it's so urgent. It's a national emergency. We need to condemn

00:18:45.340 white supremacists and right wingers because an Islamist shot up a gay nightclub. 1.00

00:18:52.180 His point, obviously what a stupid response, but his point that he's trying to make is that white 1.00

00:19:00.320 supremacist terror is a far greater problem in America than Islamic terror. And this claim, 1.00

00:19:08.340 we hear this claim a lot by the left. It is not backed up by the facts at all. So to make this point,

00:19:15.880 what the left always does is they begin with, since 9-11, dot, dot, dot, all of these terrorist attacks,

00:19:21.600 seems like they're sort of, uh, cheating a little bit there when you say since the largest terrorist

00:19:27.880 attack in American history, which was carried out by a whole group of Islamic terrorists and 0.72

00:19:32.600 directed by Osama bin Laden. Taking that aside, other than Pearl Harbor, what have the Japanese 0.98

00:19:38.680 ever done to us? Uh, okay. I mean, that's kind of a big one. You're kind of leaving out the big one.

00:19:44.460 Let's say though, let's just for the sake of a thought experiment, let's use their own numbers.

00:19:53.740 Let's use their own premises. So we're going to take 9-11 off the table, even using their own 0.99

00:19:58.600 numbers. The numbers don't tell the story that the left think they do. There's a 2017 study by the

00:20:03.720 investigation fund, which found that white supremacist attacks in America outnumber Islamist

00:20:11.960 attacks and foiled attacks by a ratio of two to one. Okay. So that's a lot. Twice as many attacks

00:20:19.360 and plots by white supremacists as by Islamists. But there are way, way, way more white people in 0.92

00:20:27.860 America than Muslims. So 60.7% of America is white. 1.1% of America is Muslim. White people outnumber 0.96

00:20:37.240 Muslims in America by a ratio of 55 to one. So if white supremacist plots outnumber Islamist plots by,

00:20:44.640 by a ratio of two to one, that still shows a hugely, shockingly disproportionate number

00:20:51.140 of Islamist plots. So if you're trying to identify a problem with hugely disproportionate numbers,

00:20:57.540 that would be the problem to identify. But Booker and the left, they have no interest in identifying

00:21:02.520 the problem. They have certainly no interest in solving the problem. All they have to do is twist

00:21:07.260 every single argument, every single question to attack conservatives or right wingers, or,

00:21:14.700 I mean, they, they view white and conservative to be synonymous. Obviously that is not the case,

00:21:18.680 but that's how they view it. So to attack everybody at the top of the intersectional pyramid,

00:21:24.280 white, straight, people who are the same sex that they think that they are, male rather than female, 0.97

00:21:29.920 a ridiculous point, but a good opportunity. Booker gives us a good opportunity to debunk a major

00:21:36.300 talking point of the left. Then we get to really the most disturbing issue of the whole town hall,

00:21:41.760 which is the first question of the town hall begins with Cory Booker. The woman comes up and says,

00:21:46.840 I'm the mother of a nine-year-old transgender child. So from the very beginning, this is just a 1.00

00:21:52.480 woman asking this question, but from the very beginning, the CNN town hall is normalizing child abuse. 1.00

00:21:57.240 If a mother is foisting gender ideology on her child, a child who's in the single digit age range, 0.92

00:22:06.340 that mother is committing child abuse. That is some horrific stuff. If you tell your little boy

00:22:11.700 that he's really a little girl because he picked up a Barbie one time and you confuse him sexually in

00:22:18.280 a truly damaging life enduring sort of way, you are committing child abuse. That's how the thing

00:22:26.240 begins. I think, okay, we're really through the looking glass. Now this woman might've introduced

00:22:30.380 herself as a sufferer of Munchausen by proxy as someone who, who seeks attention by pretending to

00:22:36.160 care the people that she cares about are ill. I thought this would be the most depraved aspect 0.87

00:22:41.520 of the night. Uh, my expectations were too low because it got so much worse. A woman then brought her 0.97

00:22:47.600 daughter on stage and presented her daughter as a nine-year-old transgender American. I don't even want, 1.00

00:22:54.020 I'm not going to play the clip. I had the, I pulled the clip and I could play the clip,

00:22:58.000 but I don't want to participate in the abuse of this child. So I'm not going to play it.

00:23:02.860 The little girl comes on stage and she's dressed in a suit and she says, I'm a nine-year-old

00:23:06.600 transgender American. And my name is Joseph or Jacob or something like that.

00:23:12.080 Roaring applause from the audience. I'm sure the moderators and the people backstage were doing it

00:23:17.000 too. The CNN producers and everyone else who exploited this child are monsters. And this sort of child 0.97

00:23:22.200 abuse should be criminal and the perpetrators should face the stiffest possible consequences.

00:23:28.740 That's during the debate, during a major presidential town hall on CNN, the big leftist cable network.

00:23:40.420 What this means to me is the arguments against Trump are pretty weak. I get the arguments against

00:23:48.360 Trump. We're going to get into one of the arguments against Trump in a second. I understand them all.

00:23:53.660 Look, I worked for a competitor of his in the 2016 primary. I did TV commercials for Ted Cruz. Okay.

00:23:59.080 It's not like I was immediately from the very beginning, this big Trump guy.

00:24:03.880 In the face of this LGBTQ town hall, there is no argument. There is no argument. What? Because Trump

00:24:10.440 mean tweets? Because he did something in Syria that you don't like for a war that we don't even know

00:24:16.500 what we're doing there because he lowered taxes and picked a judge that you don't like.

00:24:22.520 What is the argument? You've got people on stage with a Democrat media leftist apparatus abusing a

00:24:32.060 child on national television. You've got the major presidential candidates saying they're going to

00:24:37.380 defund churches, bankrupt churches, if not outlaw them altogether. You've got presidential candidates

00:24:43.280 saying even if you're not tax exempt, you're going to face consequences if you don't radically redefine

00:24:48.000 marriage. All of these people on stage and you're going to pick one of them or you're going to not

00:24:55.180 vote at all and let one of them win because Trump did what? He had a phone call with Ukraine. Give me

00:25:01.880 a break people. I didn't even get to the most ridiculous part of the whole debate. The most ridiculous 0.94

00:25:07.640 part is that Julian Castro, who's not going to be in the race for much longer, but he's still in it

00:25:13.680 now. Julian Castro had said at an earlier debate that he supports abortion, not just for women,

00:25:21.060 but for trans women. He said this because he didn't know what trans women means. Trans women

00:25:26.040 means men who dress up like women. They have male biology. They cannot have a baby. They certainly can't 1.00

00:25:32.880 have an abortion. So I joked on Twitter. I said, I wonder if Julian Castro is going to double down on

00:25:38.100 his support of abortion for men. Because we're through the looking glass, his national political

00:25:43.800 director responds to my joke and says, quote, of course, to anyone who needs an abortion, however,

00:25:49.060 they identify hashtag equality town hall. That woman is Natalie Montelongo. In the face of this,

00:25:56.400 we see the moral error of conservative opposition to Trump. Trump has many faults. The alternative is

00:26:05.560 shutting down churches, killing babies, and pumping kids who survive abortion full of hormones and 1.00

00:26:10.680 puberty blockers. I don't see very much argument for voting against Trump anymore. Doesn't mean I don't 0.95

00:26:18.800 want to criticize Trump. I'm about to criticize Trump right now. And there's a particular reason that I

00:26:23.440 need to criticize Trump because he really irritated me at the Louisiana town hall. But politics is about

00:26:29.820 context. Politics is about gradations and priorities. In the face of that sort of insane radicalism on the

00:26:41.240 left, I don't see a whole lot of argument for abstaining. The stakes are just too high. We will get

00:26:47.900 to my criticism now of President Trump. We will get to AOC crying over global warming and we will get

00:26:53.740 to the man, Christopher Columbus, one of the greatest men who ever lived. We'll get to all

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00:27:50.900 During the insane town hall on CNN, President Trump was holding a rally in Louisiana and the rally was

00:28:09.480 pretty good. He got his base all fired up. It was very entertaining as always. He did something that

00:28:15.860 irritates me so much. And I will admit, I know it seems like a disproportionate reaction to a minor

00:28:22.320 slight. President Trump, he went blue. He went blue. He used vulgar language in public. Here is

00:28:31.700 President Trump describing the prospect of impeachment. The radical Democrats policies are

00:28:36.780 crazy. Their politicians are corrupt. Their candidates are terrible and they know they can't 1.00

00:28:43.260 win on election day. So they're pursuing an illegal, invalid, and unconstitutional

00:28:50.080 bullshit impeachment. There it is. I hate it. I hate it when President Trump uses foul language in 0.99

00:29:00.240 public. What he said was absolutely true. Every word of it he said was true. His use of the word BS

00:29:07.200 absolutely justified. If I were sitting around a bar, I'd use exactly the same word and it would

00:29:14.360 be just as accurate then as when President Trump is speaking publicly. The president should not use

00:29:20.520 foul language in public. It is degrading. I know, Mike, toughen up, Michael. It's a, come on,

00:29:27.400 it's a minor point. No. Politics is speech. Politics is speech. We've known this since the ancients,

00:29:34.060 since the ancient Greeks. The thing that separates politics from just me and you clubbing each other

00:29:39.520 over the head is that we have our capacity of speech, which uses symbols to express what we're

00:29:44.820 doing in our faculties of reason to persuade one another of how we should live and how we should

00:29:49.720 govern ourselves. When you use foul and stupid language, you degrade yourself. You degrade what 1.00

00:29:58.100 is the representation of your humanity. Now we all do it sometimes. We do it for comedic effect. We do it

00:30:03.240 for emphasis. Some people use swear words like commas. That's probably not the best thing to do.

00:30:08.640 We do it. I do it too. I try not to swear as much because it, it doesn't make you sound very clear.

00:30:16.880 It doesn't make you sound very in control of yourself. And I really try not to do it in public

00:30:22.100 because it's disrespectful. It's disrespectful to people who don't want to hear that kind of thing.

00:30:26.700 It's disrespectful to the office of the president, which should be higher up. It should embody the ethos

00:30:32.340 and the spirit of the country. And there's always been a little bit of vulgarity to the spirit of

00:30:37.180 America. So I totally understand it. I hate it. I just don't like it. President Trump should try to

00:30:42.380 minimize it. He can make his point just as forcefully without doing it. And it wouldn't,

00:30:48.140 he has no reason to degrade himself. Trump has more integrity in his little finger than the left has

00:30:53.080 in their entire apparatus. The left kills babies, is foisting gender ideology on three-year-olds, 0.98

00:31:01.600 and wants to bankrupt your church. They have no credibility and no integrity whatsoever. 0.98

00:31:07.060 And Trump has actually kept more of his campaign promises than any president in my lifetime.

00:31:11.820 He actually does have integrity. When he does stuff like that, though, and goes blue in public,

00:31:16.000 he really cuts against that argument. That's my minor criticism of President Trump for the day.

00:31:20.880 Much crazier in the world of rhetoric was AOC, who was giving a speech about global warming

00:31:28.380 and decided to get misty-eyed, to start crying because she's convinced the world is about to end

00:31:35.320 and she now feels that she can't be a mother.

00:31:37.880 I speak to you not as an elected official or public figure, but I speak to you as a human being,

00:31:44.540 a woman whose dreams of motherhood now taste bittersweet because of what I know about our

00:31:51.120 children's future, and that our actions are responsible for bringing their most dire possibilities

00:31:57.980 into focus. I speak to you as a daughter and descendant of colonized peoples who have already

00:32:04.800 begun to suffer.

00:32:05.740 What is she suffering?

00:32:09.620 Last I checked, she's getting $300 haircuts and living in a posh apartment in Washington, 1.00

00:32:15.100 D.C. and going on television all the time. What is she suffering? She said, I am suffering.

00:32:18.980 I am a member of an indigenous people's group and we are suffering. What are you suffering?

00:32:25.060 What are other people suffering?

00:32:27.340 There is no evidence that the world is going to end in 12 years. There's none. Not one little bit.

00:32:38.740 Not, that's not scientific. It's not even, I don't know, even to call it a religious view is,

00:32:44.420 is not really supported by the evidence because most religious views have some logic to them.

00:32:51.520 Some have a lot of logic to them. This has no logic. None whatsoever. The worst predictions,

00:32:56.640 the worst global warming predictions are that the earth will warm about two degrees over a century.

00:33:04.220 There is no evidence that this will pose any problem for humans. Certainly will not pose any

00:33:09.680 problems for Americans. Why is AOC worried about having children? Look, if AOC doesn't have children,

00:33:18.200 I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth exactly, but in the spirit of humanity, because I

00:33:23.500 am human and nothing human is alien to me, I would like AOC to feel like she is free to have children.

00:33:30.460 She said, why, why doesn't she want to have children now? Because she says, we know that

00:33:35.580 they will face the direst of consequences. What's the direst of consequences? I guess death would be

00:33:40.100 the direst of consequences. AOC thinks that because we drive automobiles, that in the next generation,

00:33:51.180 all the children are going to die. And that's the direst of consequences. And therefore she's crying

00:33:58.380 on stage. Right now, today, we kill 1 million babies a year in this country before they're born.

00:34:05.580 1 million babies every single year. We know that they face the direst of consequences.

00:34:12.660 We know because it's happening right now. We don't know that in 10 years, all the children are going

00:34:18.840 to die. Actually, we know that they're not going to because there's no evidence of that whatsoever.

00:34:22.920 Short of a comet, a meteor hitting the earth, that's not going to happen. In 100 years, based on all of

00:34:29.860 the available evidence, all the children aren't going to die. Right now, today, 1 million of them

00:34:37.940 a year are dying. AOC doesn't shed a tear for that. AOC campaigns for it. This is either the product of

00:34:48.000 a profound ignorance or insanity. And I'm actually going to give AOC the benefit of the doubt here.

00:34:55.640 I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that it's ignorance. Because when I was a

00:35:00.080 teenager, I was pro-abortion. I didn't, I didn't understand the argument for pro-life. I didn't get

00:35:08.220 it. I just thought, well, they're not babies. And I just didn't think more about that because that's

00:35:11.520 what I was told by the media and by educational institutions and by politicians and by everyone

00:35:17.400 around me in New York. But then once you see it, you can't unsee it. And it is a baby.

00:35:24.920 Shouldn't kill babies. I'm going to give AOC the benefit of the doubt. I know, I know a lot of

00:35:29.560 pro-lifers have come up to me and said, Michael, I just don't understand how anyone could support

00:35:33.400 abortion. I totally do. Abby Johnson, one of the greatest pro-life advocates, worked at a Planned 0.99

00:35:39.100 Parenthood because she obviously didn't see the problem with abortion. Dr. Bernard Nathanson was one of 0.62

00:35:43.260 the founders of the pro-abortion movement. He was the founder of NARAL, the big abortion rights league.

00:35:49.900 Now he's one of the biggest pro-life advocates. Jane Roe, Jane Roe in Roe versus Wade is, is the

00:35:58.820 reason why there's a so-called national right to abortion in America. She then became one of the 0.99

00:36:04.260 biggest pro-life advocates in the country. Obviously people can be fooled by the illogic of

00:36:10.540 abortion and then come around and see reality. So I'm going to, I'm going to assume that AOC is

00:36:14.780 just ignorant, ignorant on the climate, ignorant on life, ignorant on a whole lot of things. I mean, 1.00

00:36:21.000 she said in one of her first interviews that she's not the expert. Remember on, on the Hoover

00:36:26.200 Institution show, Uncommon Knowledge, not Uncommon Knowledge. She was on the firing line with Margaret

00:36:31.340 Hoover. That is a profound ignorance. It requires humility to fix that ignorance. 0.99

00:36:41.900 Unfortunately, the left doesn't have that humility. And I think the way that we conservatives can reach

00:36:45.920 them is by asking questions, not by, if you, if you just go straight out and attack them all the time,

00:36:51.140 if you're constantly just beating that drum, you're probably not going to change their minds. You might

00:36:55.200 change other people's minds in the audience, but you're not going to change their minds because you're,

00:36:58.440 you are playing into their pride. You're giving their pride a reason to assert itself. If you ask

00:37:04.880 with some humility, these simple questions, like, well, what's your evidence that the world's going

00:37:10.120 to end in 12 years? What's your evidence that all the children are going to die? If you're worried

00:37:13.220 that all the children are dying, what about abortion? Just simple questions. I think there's an easier way 0.99

00:37:18.880 to reach them. And there's a lot of ignorance going around, especially on the subject of one of my

00:37:25.080 favorite holidays of the year. I'm speaking, of course, about today, Columbus Day, and the person,

00:37:31.800 one of the greatest men to ever live of Christopher Columbus. Christopher Columbus, much maligned now

00:37:38.720 in our, in our phones. When you, when you turn on your phone, you will see in different calendar apps

00:37:45.320 that it is indigenous people's day throughout the United States. Various cities have tried to redefine

00:37:50.320 Columbus Day as indigenous people's day. Christopher Columbus is being maligned without any basis in

00:37:55.840 reality as a mass murderer, as a genocidal maniac, as a bad navigator. This is, this is people who can't

00:38:03.400 get to the grocery store unless they plug in their iPhone and get, type in Google maps and they're

00:38:08.620 maligning the discoverer of the Americas because he went off course a little bit and still discovered

00:38:14.980 America and went back several times. Anyway, talk about humility and talk about pride. Columbus is

00:38:22.000 being wiped out of our history books for absolutely no reason. It reminds me as always of Tony Soprano's

00:38:29.940 great moral clarity on the subject of Christopher Columbus. We're having a discussion about Christopher

00:38:34.500 Columbus. They would make fine servants. With 50 men, we could subgate them. Subjugate? And make them do

00:38:45.520 whatever we want. That doesn't sound like a slave trader to you? George Washington had slaves, the father of

00:38:51.700 our country. What's your point? His history teacher, Mr. Cushman, is teaching your son that if Columbus was alive today,

00:38:58.480 he would go on trial for crimes against humanity like Milosevic and, you know, Europe. Your teacher

00:39:04.920 said that? It's not just my teacher. It's the truth. It's in my history book. So you finally read a book and

00:39:13.300 it's bullshit. Tony. Look, you had to walk in Columbus's shoes to see what he went through. People thought the 1.00

00:39:21.460 world was flat for crying out loud. Then he lands on an island with a bunch of naked savages on it. I mean, 0.97

00:39:26.240 it took a lot of guts. You remember when we went to Florida, the heat and those bugs? Well, like it

00:39:31.680 took guts to murder people and put them in chains. He was a victim of his time. Who cares? It's what

00:39:36.280 he did. He discovered America is what he did. He was a brave Italian explorer. And in this house,

00:39:41.200 Christopher Columbus is a hero. End of story. You tell him, Tony. So why do we celebrate Christopher

00:39:46.300 Columbus? Because none of us would be here without Christopher Columbus. We have, how many places in

00:39:51.080 America are named Columbus or Columbia, Columbus, Ohio, Columbia. There's a country called Columbia.

00:39:57.240 There's a district of Columbia. There's all manner of things in America named after Columbus as they

00:40:03.020 should be. We celebrate Columbus Day. Specifically, this began in 1891, 1892, because in 1891, we had the

00:40:16.800 largest mass lynching in American history. That was of 11 Sicilian men. And so as a way to sort of

00:40:25.860 apologize to the Italian Americans in the country, they decided to celebrate this great Italian explorer

00:40:30.520 who discovered the Americas. And that was why we had in 1892 Columbus Day, 400 years after Columbus's

00:40:36.980 voyage. In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. What did Columbus do? What are the arguments against him?

00:40:45.720 They say he's a genocidal maniac. He never committed genocide whatsoever. That's just based on nothing.

00:40:51.520 They say he's a mass murderer. He wasn't a mass murderer. John Fugel sang, who I kind of like. He's

00:40:56.320 that left-wing radio guy. He tweeted out, he said, Columbus was one of the worst mass murderers ever. 0.87

00:41:03.980 Happy Indigenous Peoples Day. How many people do you think Columbus murdered? When people ask you this,

00:41:08.660 or when people tell you that Columbus was a mass murderer, ask them, give me a number.

00:41:11.340 How many people did Columbus murder? 50,000? 60,000? 50, 60, 100, 2, 5, 10? They don't know. They don't

00:41:21.200 have an answer for that. You might ask them this. Did Columbus murder more or fewer people than the

00:41:28.900 80,000 people that the Aztecs slaughtered in the course of four days at the consecration of the Temple

00:41:35.120 of Tenochtitlan, five years before Christopher Columbus sailed to America? It's not like the

00:41:40.720 Aztecs killed them 3,000 years earlier. Five years, 1487, the Aztecs slew 80 to 84,000 people in the

00:41:48.940 course of four days at the consecration of the Temple of Tenochtitlan. Well, Michael, that's

00:41:55.460 different. How's it different? You're saying that we can't celebrate Christopher Columbus because he,

00:42:00.200 I don't know, I guess, he was governor of the Indies, so he was involved in the deaths of some

00:42:04.000 people. But you want to replace Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples Day. The Aztecs are pretty good 0.98

00:42:09.820 representatives of Indigenous peoples, right? They are Indigenous peoples. They slew 80,000 people in

00:42:15.360 the course of four days. So if you're going to get rid of Columbus Day, I guess you got to get rid of

00:42:18.300 Indigenous Peoples Day. But Michael, it's not fair to judge people by their very worst qualities.

00:42:22.880 Everybody's flawed and has bad qualities. Oh, good point. All right, then let's go back to Columbus Day

00:42:27.020 because Christopher Columbus is one of the greatest, most virtuous men who's ever lived.

00:42:31.100 The guy was a man of low birth. He more or less taught himself everything. He was Italian. He

00:42:38.660 learned to read Latin. He learned to speak and write Spanish. He was one of the great travelers. He went

00:42:45.300 to Iceland. He went to Africa. He went all over the place as a navigator. He then, he was so consumed

00:42:51.540 with Christianity. He was so devoted, a Christian, that he went, he, at the time when many people did

00:42:57.780 not read the Bible, he read the Bible with monks. He was in the Azores. He was convinced that he had

00:43:03.780 to go and discover this, this trade route to the Indies. He went, he asked a ton of different crowns

00:43:11.000 to fund it. He went to Portugal. When that didn't work, he set up an incredible pitch in Spain. He goes

00:43:17.540 to Spain. They still wouldn't give it to him. He walks out of the court and one of Isabella's

00:43:21.460 messengers came and ran and got him, turned him around and said he was the man for the job. And

00:43:27.580 it was through his own tenacity and determination. He then sets sail and against all odds makes it

00:43:34.760 to this new world, obviously not to the East Indies, but to the West Indies. He makes it there. He's the,

00:43:40.380 the first man in this Western experience of encountering native and primitive peoples.

00:43:47.500 And obviously the, the first time that Europe is going to engage in colonialism is going to have

00:43:53.140 some victims. There's no question. Nobody is denying that. And yet what they accuse him of

00:43:59.880 is being especially cruel toward the Spanish. The historical records is exactly the opposite.

00:44:04.080 Even Bartolomé de las Casas, one of the greatest defenders in history of the native people,

00:44:08.920 said that Christopher Columbus was personally quite merciful toward the natives. When the Spaniards 1.00

00:44:14.720 that Columbus traveled with wanted to hack up all of the natives for minor offenses, Christopher 0.97

00:44:19.560 Columbus weighed in on their behalf, weighed in, in their defense. Christopher Columbus, when a,

00:44:26.200 a friend of his, a native friend died, he adopted his own son, raised him as his own son.

00:44:30.740 The, the main argument against Columbus is based on one document. And it was a document written to

00:44:40.120 the crown in Spain by a man named Francisco de Bobadilla, who was Columbus's chief political

00:44:45.840 rival in the West Indies and usurped power in the West Indies from him. This would be like saying

00:44:51.040 that if all we knew about Donald Trump, if the only negative stuff we knew against Trump came from

00:44:57.260 Hillary Clinton. And we said, well, because Hillary Clinton said that Trump is a bad guy,

00:45:00.800 therefore it is completely clear that Trump is a bad guy. That's, or vice versa, by the way,

00:45:05.700 if the only thing we knew negatively about Hillary Clinton is what Donald Trump said,

00:45:10.160 you couldn't rely on that either because they were political rivals. He was, it was brought back

00:45:16.200 even in chains to the crown. Why did the crown believe Bobadilla? In part, because then the crown

00:45:21.880 didn't have to pay Columbus what it owed him. And Columbus still persevered. Columbus still

00:45:29.660 continued. He went back and forth to the West Indies. Even more important than that. And this man,

00:45:37.520 I mean, not, not enough could possibly be said about this man's virtues and great, great qualities.

00:45:43.640 But even more than that is the humility that we need. Without Christopher Columbus, none of us would

00:45:49.800 be here. If you think that it's unjust that we are here right now, you should leave. Go back, go,

00:45:54.400 you don't have to be here. We have airplanes and very cheap travel. If you think that it's awful that

00:45:59.660 people inhabit the Americas who are not the direct descendants of Aztecs or somebody, fine, go away. 0.97

00:46:10.580 Something tells me you don't believe that. If you think that it's not a, a major net positive for

00:46:16.660 the world, that America exists, I guess that's fine. That's your prerogative. You're wrong,

00:46:22.660 but just go and leave.

00:46:26.260 Christopher Columbus, beyond his great characteristics, is one of the central figures in history.

00:46:33.320 Without Christopher Columbus, there would be no such thing as Latinos. What is the, what is the Latino 1.00

00:46:38.260 race is the encounter of Native Americans with Spaniards from Europe, creates Latinos. Even 0.98

00:46:47.260 taking out the question of is Columbus a good guy or a bad guy, and the evidence is overwhelmingly

00:46:51.800 that he's a great guy. Even taking that aside, he's one of the central figures in history. Our history

00:46:57.780 would be unrecognizable without him. We are here today because of men like Christopher Columbus

00:47:03.820 and Columbus himself. We have no right to look down and spit on that man. Our life is made possible

00:47:11.840 because of what that guy did. We are standing on the shoulders of giants, and some people,

00:47:20.500 these historical revisionists, think that we're flying. What have those revisionists ever done?

00:47:25.980 What have the people who cast dispersions on Columbus ever accomplished? They have not accomplished

00:47:31.560 one one zillionth of what that man did. They have not done one one zillionth of the good for the

00:47:37.640 world that that man did. That is a question of pride. That is a question of ignorance, and hopefully

00:47:44.260 in our culture, we can rectify both. That's our show. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 14, 2019

Ep. 431 - LOLing At The LGBTQ Town Hall

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