The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 434 - The Trump Doctrine

00:00:00.000 As President Trump catches heat from all sides over his decision to move U.S. troops out of

00:00:04.780 northern Syria, we examine the president's seemingly contradictory foreign policy impulses

00:00:10.480 and we ask, is there any such thing as the Trump Doctrine? Then AOC and the rest of the squad

00:00:17.180 pick a presidential candidate, Kanye West give lessons on family values, and finally

00:00:22.200 the mailbag, all that and more. I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:30.000 I have before me the single greatest letter ever written by a head of state to another

00:00:39.220 head of state. This is President Trump's truly bizarre and very, very entertaining letter

00:00:46.800 to Erdogan, the president of Turkey. We will analyze it because this letter, as well as

00:00:53.140 President Trump's treatment of Nancy Pelosi, as well as President Trump's treatment of

00:00:57.640 the late Elijah Cummings, who died very unexpectedly and very sadly just today, they do tell us

00:01:04.360 something about the Trump Doctrine. We will connect all of the dots, but first we've got

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00:02:55.740 Does President Trump have a coherent foreign policy doctrine? A lot of people are looking

00:03:00.220 at this recent letter that he sent to the president of Turkey, Erdogan, and saying he just, 0.99

00:03:05.340 he's a maniac. He has no idea what he's doing. He's a complete lunatic. He might be a lunatic, 0.96

00:03:10.840 but he's, he's crazy as a fox. And the fox matters here because when we think about foreign 1.00

00:03:16.660 policy, there are all sorts of analogies we use. Isaiah Berlin, the philosopher said,

00:03:21.520 are you a fox or are you a hedgehog? Is Trump a realist? Is he an internationalist? Is he a liberal?

00:03:27.680 Is he a this? Is he that? Is he this? Is he that? I think that President Trump does have a coherent

00:03:32.660 foreign policy doctrine. His detractors say he's impetuous and he's, he's petty and personal and

00:03:37.940 stupid and ignorant. His more charitable distract, detractors say that if Trump does have any sort 1.00

00:03:43.640 of doctrine, it's full of contradictions and paradoxes, right? And so on the one hand, he says,

00:03:49.180 we're going to go kill ISIS. We're going to go overseas and send troops in and kill ISIS. Then he 1.00

00:03:53.980 says, we're going to take all our troops home. We have too many troops abroad. On the one hand,

00:03:57.520 he says, we want tariffs. Tariffs are great. Tariffs are a great thing. On the other hand,

00:04:00.960 he says, we want to get rid of all tariffs. We want totally free trade. One day he says, we hate China.

00:04:05.740 We're going to destroy China. Next day is congratulating China on 70 years of communism. 0.81

00:04:10.740 Seems like a lot of contradictions. I think the doctrine is a lot more coherent than people think.

00:04:15.980 And you can see it in this absolutely wild and crazy letter that he sent to Erdogan.

00:04:22.240 Here's the letter. This is an authentic letter. He referred to it yesterday when it's going around

00:04:25.860 the internet. Dear Mr. President, let's work out a great deal! Exclamation point.

00:04:32.320 Right at the beginning, completely uncommon, just like you'd talk to somebody in a bar. Let's work

00:04:39.380 out a great deal. Really positive is how he starts. Then he goes a little negative. You don't want to

00:04:44.560 be responsible for slaughtering thousands of people, and I don't want to be responsible for

00:04:48.280 destroying the Turkish economy. And I will. I've already given you a little sample with respect to 1.00

00:04:53.800 Pastor Brunson. This was another foreign policy conflict that we've had with Turkey. I've worked hard

00:05:01.360 to solve some of your problems. Don't let the world down. You can make a great deal. General

00:05:05.520 Maslum is willing to negotiate with you, and he is willing to make concessions that they would never

00:05:09.660 have made in the past. I'm confidentially enclosing a copy of his letter to me just received.

00:05:14.280 History will look favorably upon you if you get this done the right and humane way. It will look upon

00:05:21.020 you forever as the devil if good things don't happen. Don't be a tough guy. Don't be a fool.

00:05:27.320 I will call you later. Sincerely, Donald Trump. There is so much in this letter to unpack. 1.00

00:05:36.100 Tells you a lot about the doctrine. He starts out, let's make a good deal. Very positive,

00:05:41.620 very willing to negotiate. Then he threatens the president of Turkey for the rest of the paragraph.

00:05:49.780 Then he talks about how he has worked in Turkey's interest. Then he encourages him to make a good

00:05:57.900 deal in Turkey's own interest. Then he gives some evidence of why this is in Turkey's interest in

00:06:04.360 the enclosed letter that's confidential. Then he goes on to talk about Turkey's interest.

00:06:10.280 Then he threatens Turkey and shows why it's not in their interest to work against the United States

00:06:15.780 here. Then he includes that last bit of advice. Don't be a tough guy. Don't be a fool.

00:06:23.200 I will call you later. I think that, I think the Trump doctrine, you could sum it up in those three 1.00

00:06:26.960 lines. Don't be a tough guy. Don't be a fool. I will call you later. What does he mean? Don't be a

00:06:32.780 tough guy. He doesn't mean don't be tough. Trump talks all the time about how we need to be tough.

00:06:37.500 Trump has positioned himself as the tough guy. What he means by don't be a tough guy is don't,

00:06:42.220 don't, don't act foolishly out of a desire to appear tough because of your pride. I think that's

00:06:52.000 what that really means. Don't let your pride make you fall into stupid decisions, which he then 1.00

00:06:58.160 reiterates in the next sentence. Don't be a fool. And, and which I think he then vindicates that 1.00

00:07:04.460 interpretation in the final sentence, which is I will call you later because Trump doesn't let his

00:07:09.220 pride get in the way of things. You know, Trump gets this knock on him for being prideful and

00:07:15.240 narcissistic and petty and everything's about his own ego. I don't think that's the case.

00:07:21.300 I think everything's about his interest. I think he views politics through the realm, not of pride,

00:07:27.160 but of interest. I think there's actually a profound humility in viewing politics through that realm of

00:07:32.240 interest. I mean, if, if Trump had real pride here, what would he do? He'd go in and blow turkey off

00:07:37.260 the map. He'd glass the whole country, right? He'd take out the Turkish military. He'd say, 0.86

00:07:41.900 don't you dare do this. We're going to get you. This is the, this is the credibility of the United

00:07:46.880 States on the line. He's not doing that. He's saying, let's make a deal. Okay. You did something

00:07:50.300 I don't like. We'll make a deal though. That requires a certain humility and, and not allowing

00:07:56.240 pride to make you, uh, prefer to appear like a tough guy than to actually cut some sort of deal.

00:08:01.560 There's a lot more to this doctrine, but I think it actually can be distilled into some pretty clear

00:08:07.160 points. How does it compare with other doctrines? Ronald Reagan had a doctrine.

00:08:10.980 Reagan's doctrine was in part written by Charles Krauthammer in an essay that Krauthammer wrote

00:08:15.940 in, in part, not to even observe the Trump, the Reagan doctrine, but to write the Reagan doctrine.

00:08:22.960 Krauthammer copped to this later on. He said, I wasn't sure what sort of foreign policy was going on

00:08:27.240 here, but I figured I could encourage the white house to follow my foreign policy. And Reagan then

00:08:32.580 articulated this doctrine at his state of the union address. He said, quote, freedom is not the sole

00:08:38.420 prerogative of a chosen few. It is the universal right of all God's children. He said America's

00:08:44.380 mission is to, quote, nourish and defend freedom and democracy. He said, quote, we must stand by our

00:08:50.320 democratic allies and we must not break faith with those who are risking their lives on every continent

00:08:55.520 from Afghanistan to Nicaragua to defy Soviet supported aggression and secure rights, which

00:09:01.020 have been ours from birth. Support for freedom fighters is self-defense. Now this doctrine,

00:09:06.460 the Reagan doctrine has been knocked because we ended up supporting people in the Middle East who then

00:09:11.860 turned out to be not so favorable to us 20 or 30 years later. We supported people who were Islamists, 1.00

00:09:19.000 who supported political Islam and who now we would, we would describe as terrorists. So he gets 0.55

00:09:24.200 hit for that. That, that, that I don't think is a legitimate criticism. The Reagan doctrine made

00:09:31.300 perfect sense within the context of the Soviet union. It was in the national interest of the United

00:09:37.300 States to constrain Soviet expansion, to constrain communism. And so that is what we did. We did this 0.88

00:09:45.340 by advocating a policy of liberal internationalism. We did this by advocating a policy of freedom,

00:09:54.200 as the birthright of all people around the world and this particular American conception of freedom,

00:09:58.800 and we were going to stop the Soviet union, which we did. And it worked. That's the vindication of the 1.00

00:10:03.740 Reagan doctrine. The Berlin wall came down. The Reagan doctrine worked. What was the Bush doctrine?

00:10:09.880 The Bush doctrine was in many ways, the extension of the Reagan doctrine in a world outside of the cold

00:10:15.620 war. This made less sense because politics is contextual. Politics is about interest. During

00:10:24.200 the cold war, we could easily identify the interests of the United States with the Reagan doctrine.

00:10:29.420 After the cold war, liberal interventionists lost sight of this key feature, which is what is in the

00:10:35.200 American national security interest and in the national interest broadly. What liberal interventionists

00:10:41.940 at that time said was, it was in the interest of the United States to have broad sort of liberal empire

00:10:48.620 that would create Madisonian ideas of freedom all throughout the world in places and in contexts

00:10:56.140 that did not have any history of that. This appears not to have worked very well,

00:11:02.340 though they are very similar doctrines. The context is what's different. The interest is what's

00:11:08.520 different. And the Trump doctrine is a repudiation of the Bush doctrine. Now, there are other components

00:11:14.020 of this too. You know, President Trump spelled this out in a pretty nuanced statement he gave on Syria.

00:11:20.800 He's been relatively mum on his decision to pull out of Syria as all of the left and half of the right 0.88

00:11:27.640 are furious with him over pulling troops out of Northern Syria. He made a statement in the White House

00:11:32.680 yesterday, which was actually quite nuanced. The statement he made on Syria explained his foreign

00:11:41.860 policy vision as a vision of interest and nationalism. Here he is.

00:11:47.100 Now, President Erdogan's decision didn't surprise me because he's wanted to do that for a long time.

00:11:52.820 He's been building up troops on the border with Syria for a long time, as you know.

00:11:57.840 Our soldiers are mostly gone from the area. We only had 26, 28, but under 50. I think it's probably

00:12:06.140 28, but under 50 soldiers and which is a very tiny force. And it didn't surprise me at all. This is

00:12:13.540 they've been warring for many years. It's unnatural for us, but it's sort of natural for them. They fight

00:12:20.520 and they fight long and they fight hard. And they've been fighting Syria for a long time. And on the border,

00:12:27.020 that's the border with Syria. And I say, why are we protecting Syria's land? Assad's not a friend

00:12:31.880 of ours. Why are we protecting their land? And Syria also has a relationship with the Kurds,

00:12:38.280 who, by the way, are no angels. Okay. Who is an angel? There aren't too many around,

00:12:43.540 but Syria has a relationship with the Kurds. So they'll come in for their border and they'll fight. 0.90

00:12:51.880 They may bring partners in. They could bring Russia in. And I say, welcome to it. Russia went into 0.95

00:12:56.640 Afghanistan when it was the Soviet Union and it became Russia, became a much smaller country

00:13:03.040 because of Afghanistan. You can overextend. You can do a lot of things. But frankly, 1.00

00:13:09.100 if Russia is going to help in protecting the Kurds, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

00:13:13.720 This is an astounding statement because it shows a level of nuance that I think a lot of people didn't

00:13:20.200 think that Trump had. My position on the decision to move 50 or so troops out of Syria, out of

00:13:27.120 northern Syria, is basically that the issue is much more complicated than anyone would like you

00:13:32.960 to believe. We'll get into that in one second. We'll get into what this means because the foreign

00:13:38.220 policy, the doctrine that President Trump just espoused in that statement is not some modern,

00:13:42.520 new, crazy, shoot by the hip thing. This is a foreign policy that goes back to Charles

00:13:46.540 DeGaul. It goes back to Lord Palmerston. It goes back to George Washington himself. We'll get to

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00:15:37.780 really getting people upset is that the Kurds, all the Kurds aren't angels. It's like he's attacking

00:15:43.820 the Kurds. But what he, what he said to follow up is you don't see a lot of angels really anywhere.

00:15:48.400 James Madison said this, right? He said, we're not governed by angels. We are not angels ourselves.

00:15:54.520 And the situation in Syria is complicated. The alliances have been changing rapidly.

00:15:58.240 Just to give you a little taste of it, until 2017, we supported the Free Syrian Army. Then we

00:16:03.260 stopped supporting the Free Syrian Army. Now I suppose we're opposed to the Free Syrian Army.

00:16:08.060 When we tried to go in to fight ISIS, when Barack Obama went in in 2014, he tried to get Turkey, 0.94

00:16:12.920 which is the second largest military in NATO, to go in with us. Turkey didn't want to go in because

00:16:17.640 the official policy of the United States was not regime change in Damascus. It was not ousting

00:16:21.800 Bashar Assad. So we make a deal, not with the Kurds broadly, but with the YPG, the People's Protection

00:16:28.040 Units, which is a group of Kurds. This was a tricky alliance because the YPG is associated with

00:16:33.760 the PKK, which is the Kurdistan Workers' Party. The Kurdistan Workers' Party is officially considered

00:16:39.720 a terrorist organization by the United States, as well as by the EU and the United Kingdom,

00:16:44.020 and crucially by Turkey. So we make this alliance. That's okay. That's fine. And we're working with

00:16:49.380 a common interest to defeat ISIS. We defeat ISIS. Now the question is, do we privilege an alliance

00:16:54.460 with a sub-state group of people, the YPG, which has an affiliation with a group that we consider

00:17:00.480 terrorists at the State Department, or do we privilege a 67-year alliance through NATO with

00:17:06.880 our NATO ally, Turkey, which is a nation state? There's no question about that. Obviously you

00:17:12.260 privilege the relationship with Turkey. Obama would have done it. Trump did it too. The same people

00:17:17.460 who are criticizing President Trump for betraying our allies are also the people who criticize Trump

00:17:23.460 for undermining NATO. But we chose our NATO ally over our sub-state actor ally. And this was a very sad

00:17:29.120 situation because we have regularly abandoned the Kurds. We've abandoned the Kurds in the 1970s when 0.97

00:17:35.660 we used them to stir up trouble against Saddam Hussein on behalf of the Shah of Iran. We abandoned

00:17:40.560 the Kurds after the Gulf War in 1991 when we suggested to them that we would support them in

00:17:46.560 an uprising against Saddam Hussein. We didn't do that and they got massacred. And we've abandoned

00:17:50.480 groups of Kurds now. This happens regularly. So one of the arguments, one of the arguments for 1.00

00:17:56.720 the pulling the troops out of Syria is now that Bashar Assad is ensconced in power, he's not going

00:18:02.780 to be ousted anytime soon. It is in the Kurds' longer term interest to strike a deal for some 1.00

00:18:07.620 form of sovereignty and independence with Bashar Assad rather than to continue this civil war in a

00:18:13.740 stalemate and try to work out a long-term alliance with the United States, which has abandoned them on

00:18:20.680 multiple occasions for the last 50 years. I say all of that to say this is a very complicated

00:18:26.080 situation. And what is Trump's takeaway from this? Trump's takeaway from this is nations do not have

00:18:35.920 permanent friends. Nations have interests. They don't have permanent friends, certainly with 1.00

00:18:41.080 sub-state actors. They don't have permanent friends with nations. They only have interests.

00:18:45.600 Some people say this is cynical and awful and evil and un-American. B.S. This is an idea advocated by

00:18:52.540 Lord Palmerston, by Charles de Gaulle, and by George Washington himself. George Washington in his

00:18:56.480 farewell address said, quote, it is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion

00:19:02.320 of the foreign world. Why? Does that mean we can't have any friends? No, of course we can have

00:19:08.960 temporary alliances, but nations have interests, not personal friends. Then Trump goes on to caution

00:19:15.480 against the military industrial complex. We're going to bring our great soldiers back home where

00:19:20.880 they belong. We don't have to fight these endless wars. We're bringing them back home. That's what I

00:19:25.520 want on. And some people, whether you call it the military industrial complex or beyond that,

00:19:33.700 they'd like me to stay. One of the problems I have and one of, for instance, with the witch hunt, 0.63

00:19:39.320 you have people that want me to stay. They want me to fight forever. They do very well fighting.

00:19:44.260 That's what they want to do, fight. A lot of companies want to fight because they make their

00:19:48.540 weapons based on fighting, not based on peace. And they take care of a lot of people. I want to

00:19:53.360 bring our soldiers back home. We're not a police force. We're a fighting force. We're the greatest

00:19:59.260 fighting force ever. Okay. So President Trump warns against the military industrial complex.

00:20:04.400 Sounds a little bit like a kook, like a conspiracy theory guy with a tinfoil hat, right? Sort of. He also 1.00

00:20:09.820 sounds like President Eisenhower, who used that exact phrase when he was leaving office. He said,

00:20:15.480 beware the military industrial complex. And he sounds a little bit like Washington, who says,

00:20:19.420 avoid, avoid these permanent alliances. Sounds like Jefferson, avoid entangling alliances too.

00:20:25.520 Then Trump explains the really tangible reason why he wants to get the soldiers out of Syria and what

00:20:33.900 this means for American grand strategy broadly. I campaigned on bringing our soldiers back home.

00:20:40.940 And that's what I'm doing. That includes other places too, many other places. Statutorily,

00:20:47.440 it takes a period of time. Diplomatically, it takes a period of time. But, you know, we're in

00:20:53.640 many countries, many, many countries. I'm embarrassed to tell you how many. I know the exact number,

00:20:58.720 but I'm embarrassed to say it because it's so foolish. We're in countries, we're protecting 0.97

00:21:03.060 countries that don't even like us. They take advantage of us. They don't pay nothing.

00:21:10.920 Okay. What President Trump is saying here is, not only are we going to pull out of Syria,

00:21:16.460 I want to pull out of all these 130 countries that we're in around the world. I want to pull out 0.99

00:21:20.460 why? Because he's defending the Westphalian system, the order of nation states,

00:21:25.300 as opposed to an imperial order where the United States acts as a sort of benevolent liberal empire

00:21:31.800 around the world. I think there are good arguments for both of those. I think there's a good argument

00:21:35.960 for the system of nation states. I think there's a good argument for empire. Trump is making clear

00:21:40.580 he supports nation states and the Westphalian system. You even see this, you see, you get clues

00:21:46.400 about Trump's foreign policy, the Trump doctrine, the Trump grand strategy in his interactions,

00:21:51.540 even with individuals at home. He had this meeting yesterday with the Democrats and Nancy Pelosi

00:21:58.040 made a big scene about it and she stood up and pointed a finger at Trump so she could get a picture

00:22:02.140 and put it on Twitter. Chuck Schumer was crying about this at a press conference outside because

00:22:07.200 the most dangerous place in the world is not in Northern Syria. It's between Chuck Schumer and a

00:22:10.900 television camera. Here's Chuck Schumer complaining about the meeting.

00:22:13.760 He was insulting, particularly to the speaker. She kept her cool completely, but he called her a

00:22:21.340 third-rate politician. He said that there are communists involved and you guys might like that.

00:22:29.620 I mean, this was not a dialogue. It was sort of a diatribe, a nasty diatribe, not focused on the facts,

00:22:37.660 particularly the fact of how to curtail ISIS, a terrorist organization that aims to hurt the

00:22:45.480 United States in our homeland. Okay. He says Nancy Pelosi kept her cool. She didn't. We have

00:22:52.340 photographic evidence that she didn't. She stood up and wagged her finger like a lunatic. 1.00

00:22:56.880 The reason I bring this up is because President Trump at different times in his life will say Nancy 0.96

00:23:01.200 Pelosi's the greatest. When she became Speaker of the House, he sent her a note, said, Nancy,

00:23:04.580 you're the greatest. Congratulations. Then he goes and screams at her. On one day,

00:23:09.000 he says Ted Cruz is a liar whose father murdered JFK. The next day he said, I call him beautiful Ted now. 0.92

00:23:15.120 One day he's attacking Rand Paul. The next day he likes Rand Paul. One day, you remember just a few

00:23:18.960 months ago, Trump was going after Congressman Elijah Cummings as one of the worst, most crooked

00:23:23.660 members of all of Congress. Then Elijah Cummings, very sadly, passed away today. He's only 68 years old,

00:23:29.960 very, very young man. And we were all nervous that Trump was going to say something mean about him,

00:23:34.080 which was just, would serve no purpose at all and would be very unseemly. And he didn't. Trump

00:23:38.860 sent out a tweet. He said, quote, my warmest condolences to the family and many friends of

00:23:42.720 Congressman Elijah Cummings. I got to see firsthand the strength, passion, and wisdom of this highly

00:23:48.620 respected political leader. His work and voice on so many fronts will be very hard, if not impossible,

00:23:53.440 to replace. Very nice note. Absolutely right. He's not saying that he really likes Elijah Cummings here,

00:23:59.020 but he is. He's saying, look, obviously the guy was strong, stayed in office a long time. He was very

00:24:03.020 passionate. He was one of the most passionate orators in the Congress. And he did have wisdom.

00:24:07.460 He had a, he had a, certainly a lot of political wisdom. And it's sad that he died so young. And

00:24:13.020 President Trump made a nice note about him. People who are more rigidly ideological, who have a little

00:24:18.460 more, a little more, I guess you could say pride or consistency would be another word, would,

00:24:26.580 would have stuck to their guns and said, he's a really terrible guy. But it's all contextual for Trump.

00:24:33.020 So this gives us some of the Trump doctrine. The keys here are the context, circumstances changing.

00:24:41.940 One foreign policy strategy will not fit for all times in all places. They must be adapted to

00:24:46.900 different circumstances. What worked in the Cold War will not necessarily and probably won't work

00:24:51.000 after the Cold War. And the Trump doctrine is one of radical self-interest. So President Trump,

00:24:59.940 there's, there's an irony, there's a paradox, there's a contradiction. On the one hand, everything

00:25:03.600 about him is personal. He says to Erdogan, I'll call you later. He says, don't be a tough guy. Don't

00:25:08.860 be a fool. He's really hitting them really hard. But then he says, but don't worry. I'll call you 1.00

00:25:13.060 later. There's a personal touch to it because politics is acted out by persons, but you don't

00:25:18.440 take anything personally. Even in the same letter, he changes tone like three times. He doesn't take this

00:25:23.720 stuff. The attacks, he doesn't take that personally. The attacks he gives, he doesn't take that

00:25:27.240 personally. He can switch on a dime. And this is important because what he is taking is the

00:25:31.840 Charles de Gaulle idea that nations don't have friends, they have interests. He's making that

00:25:35.780 even about himself. He's saying politicians don't have friends, they have interests. And so we,

00:25:40.420 we work together when our interests align. We don't work together when our interests don't align.

00:25:44.720 Be that the YPG Kurdish forces, be that Turkey, be that Russia. In the post-Cold War world with a 0.92

00:25:50.700 rising China being the number one adversary, maybe you have to change. Maybe Russia is no longer our

00:25:55.280 number one geopolitical foe. If China is now our number one geopolitical foe, maybe we need to 0.91

00:25:59.920 play Russia off China, just as during the Cold War in the 1970s, we played China off of Russia.

00:26:05.320 It's highly contextual. It's strongly based on radical self-interest. And it has the underlying

00:26:10.980 premise that the system of nation states is more in American long-term strategic interest than a single

00:26:20.600 superpower, liberal world order led by the United States, liberal international empire.

00:26:27.660 That's the premise. And he will follow that to the radical self-interest of politicians and of the

00:26:33.340 United States. You can disagree with that, but that is a coherent foreign policy doctrine.

00:26:40.460 And if you don't think it's coherent, if you strongly disagree with it, you have to propose an

00:26:45.280 alternative. And when you propose an alternative, then you have to look not just at the successes,

00:26:50.000 but at the failures of that liberal internationalism, not just the great successes

00:26:53.600 of the Reagan era, but some of the failures that came afterward. We will get to domestic politics

00:26:59.780 where AOC and the squad endorsed Bernie Sanders. We'll even get to Kanye West family values and finally

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00:29:13.060 Big announcement in the presidential race. AOC plus three, AOC and the squad are endorsing

00:29:31.640 Senator Bernie Sanders for president. This makes a lot of sense. They are the socialists. They are

00:29:38.460 the hard leftists. Bernie Sanders is the OG socialist. He was around St. Petersburg when

00:29:43.400 he felt there was time for a change. I'm almost certain he knew Karl Marx personally, so he's

00:29:49.180 been around for a long time. They have endorsed him. That's a big pickup for Bernie Sanders. Tom

00:29:54.600 Perez, the head of the DNC, said that AOC is the future of the Democratic Party. If she's the future

00:30:00.340 of the Democratic Party, I guess Bernie Sanders is the future of the Democratic Party. I thought

00:30:04.540 Bernie Sanders was the future of the 19th century, but he's the future of the Democratic Party,

00:30:09.560 it would seem. It's a big win for him. It should help him in some of his lagging poll numbers against

00:30:13.960 Elizabeth Warren. The flip side of that news is freaking Joe Biden can't catch a break. He had

00:30:20.520 a terrible debate performance. He was falling apart, and Barack Obama won't endorse him. Now,

00:30:27.820 you might say, okay, Obama's just not making any endorsements this year. No, he endorsed Trudeau.

00:30:32.180 Barack Obama is endorsing Justin Blackface Trudeau, wore blackface pretty much every single day of his 0.98

00:30:40.200 life until he was 29. That's a slight exaggeration, but we've seen at least three occasions where he

00:30:45.620 did it. Barack Obama's endorsing that guy. By the way, Barack Obama's interfering in foreign elections.

00:30:52.280 Isn't that so awful when foreign governments collude and interfere in their elections? Oh,

00:30:57.320 no, hold on. Hold on. Never mind. That only matters when it's a fictitious storyline used to

00:31:02.780 attack President Trump in the 2016 election. Doesn't matter when Obama does it. So Obama's

00:31:07.620 interfering in this election, endorsing Justin Trudeau in Canada. Meanwhile, not a word about

00:31:12.920 poor Joe Biden. Bad news for Biden's campaign. Why is Obama really not endorsing? I think it's a

00:31:18.200 self-preservation thing. I think if he felt that Biden could win or would win, he would endorse him,

00:31:22.920 but he wants to be on the winning side. He doesn't want to be repudiated by voters as he was in 2016

00:31:28.200 with the election of Trump. In 2016, Obama said, I'm on the ballot. If you vote for Trump, you're

00:31:34.320 voting against me. And guess what happened? Trump won. And I think he doesn't want to be humiliated

00:31:37.880 again. And what it really means is he doesn't think that Biden is going to win it. A little shocking

00:31:43.980 bit that comes out just before we get to the mailbag today. Kanye West, a perplexing public

00:31:53.300 figure, leader of pop culture, who all of a sudden, he's one of the, he's played himself off as one of

00:31:59.720 the most narcissistic people in politics. He said George Bush doesn't care about black people, so he 0.94

00:32:03.980 made him a big leftist hero. Then Kanye West endorses Donald Trump, hugs him in the Oval Office. Kanye

00:32:09.520 West starts talking about Christianity very seriously, starts reading the Bible seriously,

00:32:14.060 makes an album now called Jesus is King. And Kanye West was caught on reality TV telling his wife,

00:32:22.420 Kim Kardashian, that she needs to dress more modestly because she's his wife and he loves her

00:32:26.340 and she's part of his soul. And when he does that, when she does that, it hurts his soul. I count myself

00:32:32.240 in the blessed few Americans who have never seen an episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashians,

00:32:36.180 but I might start watching is this clip is really, really good for the culture. Here's Kanye West.

00:32:41.720 You can now say that you're not into me wearing a tight dress. You are my wife and it affects me

00:32:46.800 when pictures are too sexy. Corset's like a form of underwear. It's hot. It's like, it's hot for a

00:32:51.900 booze. So like the night before the fact, you're going to come in here and say that you're not into a

00:32:58.540 corset bag. I just feel like I've just went through this transition where from being a rapper,

00:33:04.000 like looking at all these girls and looking at my wife, like, oh, my girl needs to be just like 1.00

00:33:08.900 the other girl showing a body off, showing this, showing that. And I didn't realize that that was

00:33:13.640 affecting like my soul and my spirit as someone that's married and loved and the father of like

00:33:19.700 now about to be four kids. Kim shut that down real quick. You built me up to be this like sexy 1.00

00:33:26.860 person and confidence and all this stuff. Yeah. And just because you're on a journey and you're on

00:33:30.760 your transformation doesn't mean that I'm in the right. I'm in the same spot with you.

00:33:35.540 This is a tremendous exchange. People are talking about Kanye West's new comments on politics and

00:33:43.220 culture and religion. They're speaking about it from a primarily racial perspective, like Blexit and

00:33:48.180 that kind of thing. That is legitimate. Sure. I think even more exemplary here is Kanye West as a

00:33:56.940 millennial, as a someone, someone who speaks to millennials and Gen Z and someone who's pretty

00:34:01.320 young himself. Kanye West is coming out of the same culture we all came out of, increasingly

00:34:08.760 irreligious, increasingly uncultured, increasingly shallow politically. And he is going through a

00:34:13.500 transformation because he is learning things and he's, he's learning things on every one of those

00:34:18.740 levels. He's learning, oh, hey, maybe the left isn't really helping the black community. Oh, maybe the

00:34:23.700 left isn't really helping anybody. Oh, hey, maybe these conservatives aren't so bad after all.

00:34:28.160 Hey, maybe Republicans do care about black people. He's learning that. And then he's learning on the

00:34:31.700 metaphysical level. Oh, maybe life isn't all materialistic. Maybe it's not all just about

00:34:36.120 appeasing appetites and it's not all about a cult of the self. Maybe there's a metaphysical universe and

00:34:40.820 a moral order. Maybe there's a God. Maybe that God has a personality. Maybe he's a real person that we can

00:34:46.760 talk to. Maybe my relationship with my wife is not just a kind of sexy, lustful relationship.

00:34:54.400 Maybe that relationship is emblematic of something higher. Maybe the relationship of Christ to his

00:34:59.060 church. Maybe I should privilege modesty over just this kind of material appetite satisfaction.

00:35:08.100 He says all of that to her. And then her answer is great too, because she said, you're going through

00:35:13.100 this transformation, but I'm not where you are necessarily. Maybe I'm a little behind where you

00:35:17.960 are. I love it. It's an interaction that the culture is working out right now. And Kanye West

00:35:23.480 is a little ahead of the curve because Kanye West has always been a little ahead of the curve on pop

00:35:28.080 culture. That's why he's probably the leading pop culture figure in the United States. I think this is

00:35:32.640 a great thing. And we can either react to it by knocking Kanye West for not really knowing

00:35:37.600 everything politically and not really knowing everything spiritually and getting some things wrong here and

00:35:42.540 there. Or we can react to it with encouragement because Kanye West is actually asking questions.

00:35:47.940 He's curious. He's following ideas with some logical rigor and he's leading people back from this

00:35:54.260 brink of cultural destruction, pulling them back a little bit. And we can either criticize him for not

00:36:00.000 doing it fast enough or well enough, or we can applaud him for doing it at all. I think it's a great

00:36:03.400 thing and I encourage Kanye on his journey. Let's get to the mailbag. First question from Megan.

00:36:07.620 Hey Michael, my question pertains to Pride Month and that pride is the worst of the seven deadly sins. 0.99

00:36:13.160 I was explaining your viewpoint to my mom, also patriot, and she said, well, what about being proud

00:36:17.420 to be an American? Is he saying that is negative? And I didn't know how to respond. Is there a way that

00:36:24.300 you would articulate a difference between being a normal level of proud and pride? Or do you consider

00:36:29.480 them the same thing? Pride is excessive love of one's own excellence. So there is a place at which

00:36:37.300 being proud to be an American gets bad. This would be chauvinism. The word chauvinism actually comes

00:36:43.340 from excessive love of country. It comes from this figure from the French Revolution, Nicolas Chauvin,

00:36:49.120 who was, you know, the every legend you could ever put into a heroic figure. And, you know,

00:36:56.360 a guy who would give everything up for his country. That's the personage of Nicolas Chauvin. And that

00:37:00.960 chauvinism is this excessive love of one's own excellence. That's not what most people mean,

00:37:06.280 though. When most people talk about being proud to be an American, what they're really talking about

00:37:10.660 is love of country and loyalty toward country. So that's a good thing. That's a virtue. I mean,

00:37:16.480 that's similar to filial piety. The love that you have for your parents is seen in the love that you

00:37:20.960 have for your country. And sometimes we use the word pride for that, but that's not really what we

00:37:25.540 mean. In the case of the pride parade, that's a totally different use of pride. That is the use of

00:37:31.800 pride as we see in the seven deadly sins. That is an excessive love of the self. How do I know that?

00:37:38.160 Because all the pride is, is about me, me, me, me, me. That, that, it's not even just gay pride now. It's

00:37:45.300 fat pride, skinny pride, this pride, that pride. It's all about this radical subjectivism. Whatever I want

00:37:52.840 to do is good. Whatever appetite I have should be satisfied. Whatever feeling I have must be affirmed.

00:38:00.640 Whatever, whatever pride, I mean, pride is the only word. I'm trying to think of another word for pride.

00:38:08.460 Whatever narcissistic tendencies I have must be affirmed. I am beautiful. I am wonderful. I am brave.

00:38:17.280 I have self-care. I have self-love. That's the form of pride. And that is pride in the sense of the

00:38:22.680 seven deadly sins. I actually don't even use the phrase, I'm proud to be an American. It's excusable

00:38:27.580 because it's alluding to something else. But those are, those are very different circumstances. And

00:38:33.680 if the pride parade were celebrating love and loyalty toward something objective, something outside the

00:38:41.440 self, something outside of one's own identity and outside of one's own desires, then I could

00:38:47.480 understand that. But until they get rid of that, uh, your truth and my truth and me, me, me, and

00:38:53.220 everything I do must be affirmed. Then pride is clearly in the vicious category, not in the category

00:38:58.480 of love and loyalty. From Aaron, Mr. Knowles, where do you think the left would be if Trump had not been

00:39:05.640 elected? Would the Democrats have pushed their agenda to the point where nearly all 2020 candidates are

00:39:10.700 socialists? How much is the left following their arguments to their logical conclusions? And how

00:39:14.640 much is Trump derangement syndrome? The left always gets radicalized during Republican presidencies.

00:39:21.620 This happened during the Bush presidency just as much. Uh, the, the, the left would be where they

00:39:29.780 are. The left would have moved further to the left. This is far bigger than the question of Trump. Does

00:39:34.100 Trump irritate them? He does. Does he push them a little bit? Sure. But this has been a trend since the

00:39:40.520 1960s when the conservative movement really came into fruition and moved the Republican party to

00:39:45.720 the right. And when the new left took over the democratic party and moved it to the left,

00:39:49.640 this has been going on for a long time. And in some ways it's to be applauded because it's people

00:39:53.620 following their ideas to their logical conclusions, or in the case of the left, their illogical

00:39:58.300 conclusions, which now denies reality itself, denies the reality of sex, denies the reality of the

00:40:03.920 constitution, denies, denies truth altogether. From Claire, who's your favorite monarch in history and why?

00:40:09.940 Oh, what a difficult question. I would say Charles Martel, Charles Martel, who beat back the invading

00:40:17.860 Muslims at the battle of Tours and saved Western civilization, but he technically wasn't a king.

00:40:23.380 So I'll take him off the table. If I had to choose my favorite monarch in history, at least in recent

00:40:28.360 history, I would have to choose Prince Joseph Wenzel, who is the heir to the house of Wittelsbach. Now

00:40:36.140 you hear that he's a prince, but I say he's a king because he's the rightful heir to the throne of

00:40:41.640 England through the Jacobite line of succession. James II, the last great king of England, was ousted by

00:40:47.360 those damn dirty house of commons. He was ousted by the parliament. And then those Dutch interlopers, 1.00

00:40:55.200 William and Mary of Orange, came on over and began that illegitimate line in England. And this was almost 0.96

00:41:01.860 rectified through the Jacobite risings and Bonnie Prince Charlie coming from France to Scotland. He

00:41:06.660 was a little foppish though. Didn't work out that well. So currently the legitimate king of England

00:41:11.680 is Franz the Archduke of, Franz the Duke of Bavaria. I think he's Archduke or Duke, one of those two.

00:41:17.520 And that would pass to his brother Max because Max is, because Franz doesn't have any kids. So it

00:41:23.000 passed to Max. Max has a daughter named Sophia. And then finally we get to Prince Joseph Wenzel,

00:41:27.860 our future glorious king of England. Aren't you sorry you asked? From Amy,

00:41:33.460 based on the current political climate, which democratic candidate do you think will take

00:41:38.100 the nomination? I think right now the leading candidate in the democratic race is either

00:41:44.940 Oprah or Michelle Obama or possibly Hillary Clinton. What do I mean by that? There was this

00:41:49.620 poll that came out just the other day from the Boston Herald. It said that right now Elizabeth Warren

00:41:53.920 is leading in New Hampshire. New Hampshire is a very important early state. Liz Warren,

00:41:57.860 has something like 25% and then Bernie and Biden have 24 and 23%. However, if Michelle Obama gets

00:42:05.060 into the race, Michelle would have 26%. Warren would have 20%. The other candidates would be down 0.98

00:42:10.780 around 15. What this shows is that the Democrats are unsatisfied with their current choices for

00:42:15.640 president. This is why Mike Bloomberg is considering running. This is why Michelle Obama has been floated

00:42:20.100 so many times. There is no clear front runner right now. Technically, if you look at the polls,

00:42:25.060 it's Elizabeth Warren. She is an incredibly weak front runner. Biden is not actually out of it yet.

00:42:31.320 His campaign is completely falling apart, but he's still got a chance that he could get it.

00:42:35.860 This is anybody's race. From Michael,

00:42:38.520 Do you believe leftists are genuinely immoral or do you believe they are amoral? Thank you to everyone

00:42:44.680 at the Daily Wire for the messages you send in making a difference in people's lives. Depends on

00:42:48.420 the leftist. I think plenty of conservatives are immoral too. If you're asking about the ideology, 0.92

00:42:53.000 the ideology is immoral because in the long run, there's no such thing as amorality. You have to pick

00:43:01.500 aside. If you stand in the middle of the road, you're going to get hit by a truck. You're either

00:43:04.760 with us or against us. Leftism is an ideology that stokes envy. Socialism is the gospel of envy and the

00:43:16.960 creed of ignorance, as Winston Churchill said. It stokes envy. It celebrates pride. It encourages wrath.

00:43:23.540 It discourages forgiveness and redemption and grace. It encourages lusts and following one's

00:43:31.740 own appetites. It encourages gluttony. I mean, you actually can check off all of the seven deadly sins.

00:43:36.700 Those are encouraged by leftism. So it is an immoral ideology. I gave a speech about that at

00:43:41.320 YAF one time. I think you can find it somewhere on YouTube. Does that mean leftists are immoral? No,

00:43:46.340 I think they could just be kind of ignorant of what they're doing or going along with the culture. 0.60

00:43:50.100 It's a very tempting ideology. I would have considered myself a liberal for parts of my

00:43:53.780 teenage years. So I have nothing but compassion and empathy for leftists, but they are following

00:43:59.780 an immoral ideology. And ultimately, if the moral argument doesn't convince you to abandon it,

00:44:07.100 I would just look at the self-interested argument. Nobody benefits from following those vices down to 0.99

00:44:12.420 the bottom. Nobody benefits from living in a culture of wrath and misery where you think half your

00:44:16.580 countrymen are deplorable and irredeemable. That's a misery making recipe. So I would suggest

00:44:23.380 in self-interest, at least, they abandon that. And also they'll enjoy living in a more morally

00:44:31.320 coherent lifestyle. Last question. Michael, I saw your interview with Peter Benjamin about

00:44:37.580 transgender regret, and I must say bravo to you and to him for a very insightful conversation.

00:44:42.500 My question is, what do you think is the best approach as a parent if you have a young child

00:44:46.600 who is confused, even if you have not promoted these ideals in the home? Such a good question.

00:44:52.440 As I hope that interview with Peter Benjamin brought out or displayed,

00:45:01.360 transgenderism, meaning gender confusion, gender dysphoria, is a real phenomenon. It's a real

00:45:06.800 psychological phenomenon. And it's a serious struggle for people who have a 40% suicide rate.

00:45:12.500 The 40% suicide rate is not society's fault. It's not the fault of some ideology. It's the fault of

00:45:18.160 the psychiatric condition that affects, some estimates say 0.2, some estimates say 0.6% of

00:45:23.260 people. So you have to address this if your child is experiencing this, for instance, as you would

00:45:30.260 any other psychiatric condition, as you would any other health condition, because it can be very

00:45:34.980 serious. You shouldn't just dismiss it or shove it off and say, oh, well, you're really a boy.

00:45:38.920 Don't worry about it. You should take them seriously. Also, just like any other health

00:45:44.660 condition or like any other psychiatric condition, you shouldn't indulge fantasy. The leftist premise,

00:45:49.440 when the left, and they do this constantly in the press, and it's not fair, but that's life,

00:45:54.080 they call me and Shapiro and every other person who doesn't indulge fantasy, transphobes,

00:45:59.500 hateful people who hate those suffering from gender dysphoria. Let me make myself perfectly clear.

00:46:05.680 I believe that I take gender dysphoria much, much, much more seriously than anybody pushing this 0.92

00:46:14.000 absolutely wicked transgender ideology. I think that their premise is fundamentally wrong. The 1.00

00:46:22.520 premise of the left is that fantasy is good and reality is bad. And if you live according to reality,

00:46:29.460 that you are somehow cruel and wicked. And if you just look at the analogy on other mental health

00:46:35.960 conditions, it would be like telling a schizophrenic that really the voices from the

00:46:39.840 walls are talking to him and he really should follow their dictates. It is so profoundly patronizing

00:46:47.080 and condescending and contrary to human flourishing. The people who indulge transgender ideology per se 1.00

00:46:55.160 are committing a very serious wrong. They are committing a sin and they should stop doing it

00:47:00.880 because it is hurting people and it is in no way compassionate. That's what we see from transgender 1.00

00:47:05.580 regret. Also, you should take this condition seriously and you should try to get your child any help that

00:47:13.040 they can and you should try to tell them that reality is reality and you should also use the tools

00:47:18.400 that modern medicine has available to us and modern psychiatry and, of course, the church, of course,

00:47:25.540 spiritual discussions as well. That would be my recommendation for a coherent and compassionate

00:47:31.640 way to address transgenderism and not the shallow, condescending, patronizing nonsense of those who 1.00

00:47:38.200 would indulge fantasy and gender ideology. That's our show. I'm Michael Knowles and I will be back 0.55

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 17, 2019

Ep. 434 - The Trump Doctrine

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