The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 439 - ISIS Is Dead, Kanye Is Alive


Summary

The leader of ISIS has been killed. That's the big announcement from the White House. We examine the gory details and what it means for U.S. foreign policy. Then Congressman Katie Hill resigns from Congress a week or two after those creepy naked photos of her come out. We will examine the double standards of the sexual revolution. Finally, Kanye West comes to Jesus.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The leader of ISIS has been killed. That's the big announcement from the White House. We will
00:00:05.320 examine the gory details and what it means for U.S. foreign policy and what it means for media
00:00:10.580 coverage of U.S. foreign policy. Then Congressman Katie Hill resigns from Congress a week or two,
00:00:18.060 a full week or two after those creepy naked photos of her exploitative relationship with her staffer
00:00:24.120 come out. We will examine the double standards of the sexual revolution. Finally, Kanye West
00:00:29.880 comes to Jesus. All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:41.940 All right. We have got a lot to get to today. I also want to mention a little bit about
00:00:46.240 my very fun experience debating Clay Aiken yesterday at Politicon. I know I was supposed to go in
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00:02:38.280 the mainstream media told us that ISIS was about to be reconstituted? ISIS was coming back because
00:02:45.880 Trump moved 50 soldiers in northern Syria, out of northern Syria, and therefore it was,
00:02:51.000 we're going to have ISIS all over again. It's all Trump's fault. It's all the Republicans. We got to
00:02:55.640 vote them out. It's a, oh, wait a second. Wait, I'm getting new information. Under the administration,
00:03:02.300 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been killed, the leader of ISIS. Here's President Trump making the announcement.
00:03:06.660 Last night, the United States brought the world's number one terrorist leader to justice.
00:03:14.580 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead. He was the founder and leader of ISIS, the most ruthless and violent
00:03:24.560 terror organization anywhere in the world. The United States has been searching for Baghdadi
00:03:32.300 for many years. Capturing or killing Baghdadi has been the top national security priority
00:03:39.700 of my administration. U.S. Special Operations Forces executed a dangerous and daring nighttime raid
00:03:49.120 in northwestern Syria and accomplished their mission in grand style.
00:03:55.480 This is great news. Great news. Very well done. And the message was delivered. Okay, we're all done,
00:04:04.280 right? No, of course we're not done because the president is Donald Trump. So instead of just
00:04:08.680 leaving it there, United States special operators conducted a mission. It was a dangerous mission.
00:04:13.480 We took out the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. And that's it. That's all you're ever going to hear
00:04:18.020 about this. And it's done. No, no, no. President Trump comes out and he he just describes what all
00:04:24.360 of us want to hear, which is the gory details. Here's the president. The U.S. personnel
00:04:31.540 were incredible. I got to watch much of it. No personnel were lost in the operation.
00:04:42.880 Well, a large number of Baghdadi's fighters and companions were killed with him.
00:04:51.120 He died after running into a dead end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way.
00:04:58.640 The compound had been cleared by this time with people either surrendering or being shot and killed.
00:05:06.000 Eleven young children were moved out of the house and are uninjured.
00:05:13.440 The only ones remaining were Baghdadi in the tunnel.
00:05:19.600 And he had dragged three of his young children with him.
00:05:26.400 They were led to certain death. He reached the end of the tunnel as our dogs chased him down.
00:05:36.640 He ignited his vest, killing himself and the three children. His body was mutilated by the blast.
00:05:46.080 The tunnel had caved in on it in addition. But test results gave certain
00:05:53.680 immediate and totally positive identification. It was him.
00:05:58.080 Crying, whimpering, screaming, chased down by dogs.
00:06:06.240 I love it. I love it. I like hearing this. And it's not wrong to like hearing this.
00:06:11.920 Trump is catching a lot of flack because they're saying he's not behaving like Obama. He didn't give
00:06:17.600 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi a proper funeral. You remember after we killed Osama bin Laden,
00:06:21.360 they gave him a proper funeral. And we never saw any photos and we never saw any confirmation of this.
00:06:28.000 Trump is going out there. He's saying we went out there, we picked up the guts and the gore and all
00:06:32.320 the remains in the cave and we made sure it was him and we chased him down like an animal.
00:06:36.720 Good. We should hear that. There was a time in this country when we weren't afraid to show the
00:06:41.920 inhumanity of our enemy. And it's important to show the inhumanity of our enemy. It's important to
00:06:46.560 have some moral clarity. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was one of the worst people in the world. He raped,
00:06:53.440 killed, pillaged, and burned. He was a true monster and an animal. And it's proper to describe him as
00:07:01.440 such. We used to do this. There is nothing especially moral about restraining yourself when
00:07:08.320 talking about a vicious enemy like this. There's nothing particularly moral about not celebrating this
00:07:14.000 victory of killing the worst terrorist leader in the world. This is, this is, this is what the
00:07:21.360 president does in many ways. He's being criticized for being unpresidential here. This is the role of
00:07:27.200 the president. We've talked a lot about how the founders are so brilliant. They set up our separation
00:07:32.240 of powers, our three branches of government to correspond to the three parts of the human soul.
00:07:38.060 There's the logos, the pathos, and the ethos. So there's the logical part. There's just the
00:07:43.160 rigorous logical part. That's the Supreme Court. That's the judiciary branch. Those are the guys
00:07:47.880 who are just looking at the facts. Does it always work out that way? Absolutely not. But that's how
00:07:51.140 it's supposed to work out. Then you have the emotional branch, the branch that corresponds to
00:07:55.760 appetites, the wills of the people. That would be the Congress. That's why they're elected every two
00:08:00.200 years in Congress. And in the Senate, they're elected every six years. They are much more responsive
00:08:04.860 and reactive to what the people themselves want. And then you have the ethos, the spirited part,
00:08:10.280 the part that represents the spirit of the nation. That would be the president. That's the
00:08:14.880 executive branch, which does not exist simply to deliberate and to contemplate and to only use
00:08:21.060 faculties of reason. It is using the spirit. This is why the president of the United States is not just
00:08:26.180 some functionary at the post office. That's why not all government employees are exactly the same.
00:08:30.820 He is actually representing something about our spirit as a country. I remember after 9-11,
00:08:36.860 I guess it was on 9-11, President Bush gave his speech and he said, the images that we're seeing
00:08:43.740 on television of planes flying into buildings fills us with deep sadness and a quiet, unyielding
00:08:50.940 anger. It's my favorite line of the speech because it wasn't just some polished political speech
00:08:58.360 written by some Harvard graduate. It represented what all Americans were feeling, which is in part
00:09:05.140 what we are asking the president to do, to represent our spirit in one person, in one branch. Same
00:09:12.100 thing, actually another George Bush example. When he went down to the pile on 9-11, he had that bullhorn
00:09:17.080 and someone said, he said, we can't hear you because they couldn't hear him giving a speech. And he said,
00:09:22.520 well, I can hear you. And the rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings
00:09:28.600 down are going to hear from all of us soon. That's not a workshop speech. That's not the kind of thing
00:09:35.640 you put in front of focus groups. That's just really expressing a genuine aspect of the spirit.
00:09:40.500 That's what Trump was doing with Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. I wish that President Obama had reacted that way
00:09:47.020 to the death of Osama bin Laden. What Osama bin Laden did was traumatic for the nation. It was incredibly
00:09:53.220 traumatic, certainly the greatest national trauma of my lifetime and probably the greatest national
00:09:58.040 trauma since the civil war. That demands a response that's, that's not simply clinical. That's not just
00:10:07.800 stating the facts. This really matters to people. You know, after Trump announced that the ISIS leader,
00:10:15.880 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had been killed in this U.S. raid, the mother of Kayla Mueller, or I don't know how to
00:10:22.400 pronounce her name, Mueller or Mueller. This was the American aid worker who was kidnapped by ISIS in
00:10:27.420 2013, repeatedly sexually abused by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi himself. The mother said her daughter
00:10:35.500 might still be alive if President Obama had been as decisive as President Trump. Does Trump get credit
00:10:41.660 for killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi? Yes. It's not like he was pulling the trigger. I mean, it was the special
00:10:48.380 operators who went into this really risky mission, but he gets credit in the way that Obama gets credit
00:10:53.320 for killing, killing Osama bin Laden because he made the decision. He's the decider. Ultimately,
00:10:58.400 that decision goes up to the presidential level and Obama made it. So he gets some credit for killing,
00:11:04.520 killing Osama bin Laden and Trump made that decision. So he gets some credit for killing
00:11:09.720 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. The mother of this abducted aid worker said, I still say Kayla should be here.
00:11:18.660 And if Obama had been as decisive as President Trump, maybe she would have been. For me, what
00:11:22.860 matters most, I'm hoping now we will finally get the answers we have been asking for all along.
00:11:27.580 I think this administration truly might help us. I don't think they are as closed about what happened.
00:11:33.380 This is pretty harsh language against President Obama. She's saying he just wasn't
00:11:37.160 decisive. Now he was decisive when it came to Osama bin Laden, but it is strange that ISIS
00:11:41.580 began on Obama's watch and it began largely because we, we so quickly withdrew from Iraq that
00:11:47.740 the Islamic state was able to, uh, to come up. He didn't get it. Obama didn't get it. You know,
00:11:54.280 they, they harangued Bush because Bush didn't get bin Laden and then Obama did. Well, Obama didn't get
00:11:59.620 ISIS, didn't get Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and Trump did. And I'm sure you're going to see very different
00:12:04.560 reactions to those two stories based on where people fall on the political aisle. Now, Trump
00:12:09.320 is also getting criticism about this. It's unbelievable. You kill the worst terrorist in
00:12:14.200 the world and somehow you get criticized for it. Trump is also getting criticism because he did not
00:12:18.580 inform congressional Democrats that the raid was about to happen. Now, President Trump, I think,
00:12:25.440 has a pretty good reason for this. He said he didn't want it to leak. Here's, here's his
00:12:30.040 explanation. You requested the, to the Russians to fly over this area they controlled. What did
00:12:35.400 you tell? We spoke to the Russians. What did you tell them? We told them we're coming in. Okay. And
00:12:41.060 they said, thank you for telling us. They were very good. But did you tell them why? No. No. They
00:12:48.080 did not know why. Was any other? Uh, we did tell them, we think you're going to be very happy
00:12:53.280 because, you know, again, they hate ISIS as much as we do. You know what ISIS has done
00:12:58.280 to Russia. So, uh, no, we did not tell, they did not know the mission, but they knew we
00:13:03.440 were going over an area that they had, uh, they had a lot of firepower.
00:13:08.060 And have you notified the congressional leaders about this? Pelosi? Uh, we've notified some
00:13:14.760 others are being notified now as I speak. Uh, we were going to notify him last night,
00:13:20.720 but we decided not to do that because Washington leaks like I've never seen before. There's
00:13:25.600 nothing, there's no country in the world that leaks like we do. And Washington is a leaking
00:13:31.720 machine. And I told my people, we will not notify them until the, our great people are
00:13:38.880 out, not just in, but out. I don't want to have them greeted with, uh, firepower like you
00:13:45.640 wouldn't believe. Fair enough. He says, look, Washington leaks all the
00:13:50.540 time. You got leaks, especially coming out of Adam Schiff, like crazy leaks, even coming
00:13:55.460 out of our intelligence community. So I'm not going to let you guys know. Totally fair.
00:13:59.280 And the left is sort of proving his point here in their reaction to the killing of
00:14:04.660 al-Baghdadi. I mean, there you now have on MSNBC, you somehow have MSNBC panelists discussing
00:14:13.180 how killing the worst terrorist in the world, actually capital A C K S H actually killing
00:14:21.540 the worst terrorist in the world is a bad thing because, uh, I don't know. MSNBC can explain
00:14:27.420 it. Yeah, no, no, but I, I wonder here, um, if this type of killing only reinforces the ideology
00:14:35.000 of Baghdadi's followers and in fact, strengthens it. Well, it doesn't make it any easier for those
00:14:43.960 of us who want to destroy the organization completely. It's really actually bad. It's
00:14:49.280 really, you know, killing the leader of this organization now makes it really hard to destroy
00:14:53.960 the organization. And, you know, frankly, look, if we kill them, you know, they kind of, they win,
00:14:59.560 you know, if you really think about it, you know, but if you really think about it,
00:15:02.600 this is a completely ridiculous argument and they're making it because this is a,
00:15:09.900 this is an unobjectionable win for the white house. This is an absolute good for the country.
00:15:18.360 They're they've, they've really done something great here. We have defeated ISIS. And I think
00:15:23.240 the real reason that the left is so upset about it is, is really the timing too. It's so cuts against
00:15:30.800 the narrative that we were hearing just last week. The narrative was ISIS is about to reform.
00:15:37.300 You heard it from some Republicans who didn't want Trump to pull those troops out of Northern Syria.
00:15:41.960 And not only is ISIS not currently reforming, ISIS has now been struck the most decisive blow
00:15:48.780 in the history of ISIS. This is a cause for some skepticism. Now, when we approach the mainstream media,
00:15:55.660 because their predictions just keep being so wrong. The greatest example of this is actually not MSNBC.
00:16:03.460 I don't even want to really pick on MSNBC. The greatest example of this is the Washington Post.
00:16:08.900 The Washington Post, where democracy dies in darkness, ran an obituary for the leader of ISIS
00:16:16.660 that read. I am not, I am not making it up. It said that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, an austere religious
00:16:27.440 scholar and leader of the Islamic state dies. An austere religious scholar. Adolf Hitler, passionate
00:16:38.140 community planner and dynamic public speaker dies at 56. That was one version that went around on,
00:16:43.620 on Twitter. Another one. Mao Zedong, who saved 20 to 45 million of his own people from having to
00:16:51.060 suffer through the struggle of existence, dies at 82. I put one out, said Attila the Hun,
00:16:57.400 renowned world traveler and government administrator, dies at 46. When I saw this Washington Post headline,
00:17:08.180 I did not believe it. And I, it is not possible for me to have less respect for the Washington Post.
00:17:13.600 than I currently do. And yet even I said, this has to be a Babylon Bee parody of, of the Washington
00:17:22.580 Post. No, it was, it was real. They then changed the headline. They changed the headline a few times.
00:17:27.420 It was extremist leader, but a lot of it focused on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's scholarly training on his
00:17:33.480 expertise in Islam. And it's such an irony because all we heard during the rise of ISIS is that the
00:17:41.920 Islamic state has nothing to do with Islam. Here's Barack Obama saying as much.
00:17:48.100 Now let's make two things clear. ISIL is not Islamic. No religion condones the killing.
00:17:54.500 Look, let's be clear. Let's be perfectly clear. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who has a PhD in Islamic
00:17:58.740 theology from Baghdad University, that he doesn't know nearly as much about Islam as me.
00:18:04.740 Some guy in America who's not a Muslim. Let, let, let me be perfectly clear. He also calls them
00:18:11.100 ISIL instead of ISIS, which everybody called them. He, Obama would call them ISIL because it, if he
00:18:18.540 called him ISIS, it would acknowledge that Obama had completely bungled Iraq and Syria, the Islamic
00:18:25.080 state of Iraq, Iraq and Syria. So he called him ISIL, which was the Islamic state in the Levant or the
00:18:31.560 Islamic state of Iraq in the Levant, which was a little muddier. And so Obama didn't have to take
00:18:35.740 total credit for it, but he completely bungled the thing up and it exposes this lie. The left
00:18:40.360 wants to have it both ways. The left wants to revere this austere religious scholar. They want
00:18:45.400 to say, gosh, this guy really knew a lot about Islam and then say, but also he doesn't know anything
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00:20:50.940 because it admits that the left has been lying for years when they say that ISIS has nothing to do
00:20:57.540 with Islam. If ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, then I guess Abu, the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
00:21:05.320 is not much of a religious scholar. If he is a religious scholar, he probably knows something
00:21:11.600 about Islam. And the answer is, of course he knows something about Islam. He knows a lot more about it
00:21:15.560 than Barack Obama does or any of the American left who have never cracked open the binding on the
00:21:21.640 Quran, have never read a page of it, have never studied anything about the religion, and simply say
00:21:27.280 that it is the religion of peace. Now, is that to say that ISIS represents all of Islam everywhere,
00:21:34.760 all around the world? No, of course not. But it does admit that there is a complex question here,
00:21:40.840 and it's not a complete coincidence that radical Islamic terrorism has some coincidence with Islam.
00:21:48.120 And Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, he was a really important figure in this way as well. I mean,
00:21:51.820 the fact that he was a religious scholar does matter because he did command some serious credibility on
00:21:58.420 Islamic theology. He also was one of the most notorious terrorists in the world. He got chased
00:22:03.180 down by dogs screaming and whimpering, and now he's dead. That is a very good thing. The bad news for
00:22:10.140 the left here, bad news for Democrats, especially on the Hill, this is not going to help them in their
00:22:16.280 impeachment argument. Killing really, really, really bad guys tends to boost your president's
00:22:22.020 popularity. I nearly liked Barack Obama for six or seven hours after he made the decision to go kill
00:22:28.840 Osama bin Laden. This is really going to hurt their impeachment calls. It's really going to knock their
00:22:33.120 credibility. And that's not the only woe that Democrats are facing on the Hill right now.
00:22:38.180 Democrats on the Hill also have to deal with the resignation of Representative Katie Hill,
00:22:43.400 a total weirdo pervert who was engaged in a throuple with her, a throuple as a couple for three
00:22:50.000 people, a throuple with her husband and a 22-year-old staffer. So we're not, we're not even
00:22:57.480 just talking about perfectly fun, free love, consensual, do whatever you want to do, man.
00:23:03.940 We're talking about what the left in any other situation would call sexual harassment. We're talking
00:23:11.320 about inappropriate relationships with young female staffers. We're talking about the Me Too movement,
00:23:16.140 except it's never the Me Too movement when it comes to Democrats. So there were some reactions to this.
00:23:23.540 I mean, there were so many photos that came out. Katie Hill could no longer sustain this. There was
00:23:29.040 one photo of her sitting completely naked behind her completely clothed female staffer brushing the
00:23:36.380 staffer's hair. These photos were so far beyond sexy. Like they were so far beyond anything that
00:23:45.660 any normal person could remotely consider titillating. And they just were fully 100%
00:23:52.320 creepy. There was no, nothing titillating was left in them. So she's, she's brushing the hair. That
00:23:57.840 wasn't even the weirdest one. There was another photo of naked Katie Hill, the Democratic Congressman
00:24:03.600 ripping a bong and showing her iron cross tattoo. She had a Nazi era German tattoo on her body while
00:24:12.240 ripping a bong, while doing a bunch of drugs, while sexually harassing her staffer, even for the left,
00:24:17.320 they couldn't defend this anymore. So they, they kick her out. You know, she resigns. She can no longer
00:24:23.640 sustain it. Even at that point, the left wasn't going down without a fight. So Buzzfeed runs the
00:24:29.800 greatest headline of all. This, I think officially wins the award for dumbest article on the internet
00:24:34.900 today. The headline representative Katie Hill will resign after details of her sex life were published.
00:24:45.760 Oh my gosh. Jeffrey Epstein was driven to suicide after shameless tabloids leak details of his personal
00:24:57.320 life. That's not the story guys. The story is she and her husband, who seems like kind of a creepy guy
00:25:03.640 too, were exploiting this young staffer in weird threesomes that they would go on and taking photos
00:25:10.360 of it and taking photos of using illicit drugs and taking photos of the Congressman's naked body with
00:25:15.480 Nazi tattoos. Oh, and also the Congressman Katie Hill is leaving her husband and her 22 year old staffer
00:25:24.720 because she's also been sleeping with her male finance director. So awful. I can't believe those
00:25:31.740 tabloids leaked details of her sex life. So she's the real victim here. If you ask me, you know, if you
00:25:37.980 really think about it, but actually, but actually this is such rank hypocrisy. And I just, the article
00:25:45.760 goes on. I have, I have to keep reading. Hill said her supporters should quote, no longer be subjected
00:25:51.760 to the pain inflicted by my abusive husband and the brutality of political operatives. So funny. The
00:25:58.880 husband has made a few Facebook posts here. And because initially Katie Hill tried to spin this as
00:26:04.360 she's discovering her sexuality and she's becoming a lesbian and it's therefore a good thing that she's
00:26:09.320 leaving her husband and her husband posted and said, you're leaving me for a man. You're not a
00:26:13.820 lesbian. We we've been engaged in this weird threesome for a few years, but you're not, you're not
00:26:19.820 leaving me for a woman. I don't know why that would be good if you leave your husband for a woman, but
00:26:25.480 it's definitely not good. If you're leaving your husband for another guy who who's also an employee
00:26:30.420 of yours, nothing about this is defensible. Katie Hill, but she said my abusive husband. And of course
00:26:36.000 the brutality of political operatives, how dare those political operatives make Katie Hill take
00:26:42.120 naked photos with her staffers, ripping bongs and having Nazi tattoos. So awful of them to do that.
00:26:46.180 The piece goes on. Representative Katie Hill is resigning from Congress amid an allegation
00:26:51.340 that she had an inappropriate relationship with a member of her staff.
00:26:55.620 I guess, uh, allegation is a new word for many photographs. She's resigning from many amid many
00:27:04.400 photographs coming out, showing her inappropriate relationship. They go on the conservative website,
00:27:09.120 red state published text messages and photos indicating that Hill had been in a consensual sexual
00:27:14.560 relationship with a female staffer on her campaign. And that she was also involved with a male staffer
00:27:20.460 in her congressional office. It's just that awful conservative website that showed that
00:27:24.120 totally consensual relationships. Also, if a male boss ever pays a compliment to any female employee,
00:27:31.120 he's done. He's got to be fired and thrown out and he's been practically a rapist. But if a female
00:27:36.240 congressman has a completely exploitative relationship with her 22 year old female staffer,
00:27:41.640 where the staffer actually describes herself as having been heartbroken and ripped apart by this,
00:27:46.540 that is wonderful and consensual. And wow, great job. That's, that's the sexual revolution.
00:27:52.740 The piece goes on. Hill, who is openly bisexual, admitted and apologized for having a relationship
00:27:56.940 with the female staffer, but denied any improper relationship with the male staffer. Hill says those
00:28:01.880 claims came from her ex-husband whom she is divorcing. Okay. Okay.
00:28:07.900 All of this just shows you how little you really can trust the media and the left. I know it's like
00:28:20.540 we almost don't even need to say it anymore, but I don't think I've seen two clearer issues in the
00:28:27.720 news in recent days. And somehow the left has managed to completely flip them. Trump kills the
00:28:33.160 most wanted notorious terrorist in the world. The heir to Osama bin Laden, a cartoonishly evil
00:28:39.540 terrorist and under Trump's watch, the United States kills him. And the left somehow spins that
00:28:45.300 as a bad thing. A democratic Congresswoman has a cartoonishly ridiculous affair with one of her
00:28:54.700 staffers. And I mean, I couldn't, if I took that script into a Hollywood studio and I said, Hey,
00:28:59.840 I want to do a movie about a bisexual congressman having a throuple with her husband and a female
00:29:05.640 staffer. And also she combs her hair while naked and the staffer's clothes. And also she's ripping
00:29:11.520 bong hits on camera. You see all of this. Oh, and also she has Nazi tattoos. If I handed that into the
00:29:16.960 Hollywood studio, they would say that's too on the nose, Michael. You've got, that's ridiculous.
00:29:21.560 A clear case. And yet somehow the mainstream media portrays the Congressman as a victim.
00:29:25.740 What this means is the next time the media give you some outrage, the next time they say Trump did
00:29:34.680 the worst thing in the world, the next time they say some Republican Congressman did the world, just
00:29:39.440 take a deep breath, calm down and remember that these guys are lying to you. And I think increasingly
00:29:45.440 people are seeing the light. One guy in particular is seeing the light. He is probably the avatar of the
00:29:51.400 pop culture. Maybe the biggest guy in the pop culture, other than the president himself.
00:29:56.600 That would be Kanye West. Kanye West has come to Jesus. He's released an album called Jesus is King.
00:30:05.980 You know, I don't care for hip hop. You know, I don't care for most popular music made after World
00:30:09.920 War I. I listened to the album. We will analyze Kanye's come to Jesus moment. We'll see where it stands.
00:30:18.320 We'll see what it means for music, for Kanye's own soul and for the culture. Then if we have time,
00:30:24.560 we will also talk a little bit about my debate at Politicon, not with Chris Hahn, who is the Fox
00:30:29.800 News Democrat, the aggressive progressive that I was supposed to debate, but actually a debate where
00:30:34.800 I guess Chris was there. He was participating, but really the debate came from Clay Aiken, who was
00:30:40.020 supposed to be the moderator. Clay Aiken, totally objective, unbiased. You can watch and listen to that
00:30:46.740 whole debate on YouTube. I'll post it to my Twitter page as well. That was from Politicon 2019.
00:30:54.160 We'll post that there because it was a real trip. But first, I've got to say goodbye to Facebook and
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00:31:28.160 I never thought that I would do this, but I have got to do a close reading of Kanye West
00:31:47.780 because Kanye West has this album out, Jesus is King, and it's quite good. Now, what do I mean by
00:31:55.080 then? I don't care for much modern music. I don't care for hip hop at all. I really don't care for
00:32:00.880 modern Christian music. I really don't like that. So this seems like the intersection of everything I
00:32:08.540 hate. The thing I like about it is I've always felt that Kanye West has a very good ear. The line I've
00:32:15.360 used about him in the past is that he has such a great ear for music that he then makes worse by
00:32:20.380 rapping over it. But he has a real incredible musical talent. He does hear things, not just in
00:32:26.840 the music, but in the culture as well. This album just reads as very sincere. And I was also afraid
00:32:34.600 that the music was going to be heretical or soapy or saccharine and sentimental like so much
00:32:41.640 Christian music. And it's not. You know, the best, the best worst version of this is a song called
00:32:50.140 On Eagle's Wings that they play in blue hair Vatican II Catholic churches where there are three people in
00:32:56.200 the parish and the songs weren't even cool in the 70s, but they all just really get into it.
00:33:00.480 And the song says, I will raise you up on eagle's wings, which is also not true. I will never raise
00:33:07.460 anybody up because I am a person on I am not God. So it's, it has the, it's not only a terrible song
00:33:12.320 to listen to, but it has the added injury of being heretical. So I was afraid we were going to get some
00:33:17.200 of this stuff from Kanye West or that we were just going to get a bunch of other kind of nonsense
00:33:20.840 with more of a hip hop vibe. It's not what we got. Three songs in particular, I really liked.
00:33:26.860 God is closed on Sunday and water. I think you should listen to those songs. God is here are the
00:33:34.200 lyrics. Well, you can hear just, just listen to just a little bit to get the sense of the music.
00:33:53.740 So the song reads, God is my protection. God is my all and all. God is my light in dark
00:34:04.180 darkness. Oh, God is, he is my all and all. God is my joy in the time of sorrow. God is my all and
00:34:12.900 all. God is my today and my tomorrow. God, God, my God is my all and all. God is the joy and strength
00:34:21.160 of my life. God is remove all pain and misery and strife. God is, he promised to keep me never to
00:34:27.300 leave you. He'll never, ever come short of his word. I've got to fast and pray, stay in that narrow way,
00:34:32.960 keep my life clean every day. I want to go with him when he comes back. I've come too far
00:34:37.620 and I'll never turn back. God is, God is, God is, God is, God is my all and all. It's a beautiful
00:34:42.140 song. The thing that I first noticed about the album is the songs are short. They should be short.
00:34:49.500 Modern musicians tend not to have that much to say. And if you say things quickly,
00:34:53.960 there can be something profound. What is God? You know, when, when Moses asks,
00:34:59.180 when Moses asks God, who do I say you are? God doesn't say I'm God. I'm this guy. I'm that guy.
00:35:05.720 Because God is the essence of being. He is. So God says, I am that I am. I, he, God is so
00:35:16.100 being that he simply is the same thing. Christ is asked about his divinity. And he says, before
00:35:25.120 Abraham was, I am, Christ is always in the present because he is the essence of being. And that is
00:35:33.160 what the song means. That's the title of the song. God is profound and simple and something that
00:35:40.860 probably has not occurred to many aficionados of modern music. God is my all and all. Every line
00:35:48.560 in here is true. There's no, no heresy as far as I can tell. My day is my today and my tomorrow.
00:35:55.400 He's eternal. Not, not even, not bound by our linear conceptions of time. He's the alpha and
00:36:02.020 the omega, the beginning and the end. He is all of that. He's, he is outside of time and space and
00:36:07.680 inserts himself into time and space in the incarnation. My all in all, this constant, just going
00:36:13.160 back to God. You don't want it to be like one of these Jesus is my girlfriend songs where you
00:36:18.100 mentioned Jesus a couple of times, but you could replace the word Jesus with baby and it would just
00:36:22.780 be a regular modern song. That would be missing the point. God, he keeps coming back. The song is
00:36:28.880 called God is, you just keep going back to the name of God for a beautiful song. The next one is the
00:36:33.540 funniest song in the album. It's called closed on Sunday. And it is a song about Chick-fil-A. Have a
00:36:38.800 listen. When you get daughters, always keep them safe. Watch out for vipers. Don't let them
00:36:48.160 indoctrinate. Closed on Sunday. You my Chick-fil-A. Love it. Love it. Great stuff, Kanye. The other thing
00:36:57.060 I was worried about this album is that Kanye was just going to take himself too seriously.
00:37:02.180 Chesterton said the angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly. Kanye can take himself
00:37:08.420 lightly here as well. It's, it's one of the catchier songs on the album. And it's just very
00:37:12.900 funny. Closed on Sunday. You're my Chick-fil-A. Closed on Sunday. You're my Chick-fil-A. Hold the
00:37:17.960 selfies. Put the gram away. Put the Instagram away. Get your family. Y'all hold hands and pray. When you
00:37:23.660 got daughters, always keep them safe. Watch out for vipers. Don't let them indoctrinate. Closed on Sunday.
00:37:29.560 You're my Chick-fil-A. So this is a song about the Sabbath. And it's a song about Chick-fil-A.
00:37:36.340 And it's because Chick-fil-A is representative of the modern culture. And it's even an example of
00:37:42.540 being in the consumer culture in modern America, but still keeping holy the Sabbath day, but still
00:37:48.620 keeping holy sacred things, but not totally losing yourself in these, this den of vipers,
00:37:55.080 not totally losing yourself in this completely illusory culture of Instagram and this totally
00:38:01.980 self-centered idea of selfies, not losing yourself and trying to make more money on Sunday.
00:38:06.180 This, this idea that you will take a moment and reflect and contemplate.
00:38:12.560 You're my Chick-fil-A. Closed on Sunday. You're my Chick-fil-A. You're my number one with the lemonade.
00:38:17.640 They have lemonade at Chick-fil-A. Raise our sons, train them in the faith through temptations.
00:38:22.180 Make sure they're wide awake. Follow Jesus. Listen and obey. No more living for the culture.
00:38:28.820 We're nobody's slave. We're nobody's slave. Even in the consumer culture, we're not going to be wage
00:38:35.380 slaves. We're not going to, because if you work, I mean, this is one of, one of the many explanations
00:38:41.160 of the Sabbath is no matter how much money you make, no matter how successful you are,
00:38:46.460 if you are constantly working, if you're working 100% of the time, you're a slave. It doesn't matter.
00:38:52.540 You could own the biggest corporation in the world. You're still a slave
00:38:54.900 to your appetites for money, to your appetite for power, to all, to your appetites literally
00:39:00.980 for the chicken sandwich. The chicken sandwich is representing those appetites. And Kanye West
00:39:05.020 is saying, we're going to close it on Sunday to raise our kids, to have our family, to contemplate
00:39:11.640 God. Most importantly, to follow Jesus. We're not living for the culture. We're not living for mammon
00:39:17.080 and for the here and now. We are living for a kingdom that is not of this world. He goes on,
00:39:21.980 stand up for my home. Even if I take this walk alone, I bow down to the king upon my,
00:39:26.540 the throne. My life is his. I'm no longer my own. I pray to God that he'll strengthen my hand. They
00:39:31.780 will think twice stepping on my land. I draw the line. It's written in the sand. Try me and you will
00:39:36.200 see that I ain't playing. Now back up off my family, move your hands. I got my weapons in the spirit's
00:39:42.780 land. What an amazing turn. You know, so much of popular hip hop music speaks about violence.
00:39:50.020 Sometimes it advocates violence. And Kanye is nodding to that here. And he's speaking not
00:39:56.240 about physical warfare. He's speaking about spiritual warfare. We are fighting against
00:40:02.060 principalities and powers. We are fighting against spiritual darkness, not just random people on the
00:40:09.920 street. This juxtaposition of the modern, the material, the things that satisfy our appetites in
00:40:19.300 this world and the spiritual and the metaphysical world. This juxtaposition in the very funny catch
00:40:25.740 of Chick-fil-A is really quite smart. He says, Jezebel don't even stand a chance. Jezebel don't
00:40:32.600 even stand a chance. Really, really good song. And it's funny. And you can tell when people have
00:40:37.560 lost the narrative, no matter how well-intentioned they are, when they completely lose their sense of
00:40:42.100 humor. Kanye hasn't. In many ways, he's gained more of a sense of humor in this. Shows you maybe he's on
00:40:47.480 the right path. And then the last song, people aren't talking about it as much, but I think
00:40:51.160 it's really, really good, is a song called Water. Give a listen.
00:40:54.240 It's water. That's the name of the song. Listen to the lyrics.
00:41:15.240 Clean us like the rain and spring. Take the chlorine out of our conversation. Let your light reflect on
00:41:21.560 me. I promise I'm not hiding anything. It's water. We are water. Pure as water, like a newborn daughter.
00:41:30.300 The imagery of the water is the imagery of baptism, of rebirth. It's the imagery of laundering your soul
00:41:37.440 in the confessional. It's the laundry, or it's the imagery rather, of taking something which is dirty
00:41:42.740 and making it clean. And not artificially clean, but really clean. You know, even this cleanest like
00:41:49.540 the rain in spring, take the chlorine out of our conversation. Take the artificial sanitizing
00:41:59.060 aspect out of our conversation. Present ourselves as really as dirty and damaged as we are by original
00:42:06.120 sin and clean us. Clean us. Let your light reflect on me. I promise I'm not hiding anything. I'm not
00:42:11.900 hiding it. There's no chlorine in our conversation. I'm not holding anything back. Here's what I am.
00:42:16.600 Please clean me pure as water in the baptism. Pure as water like a newborn daughter. The use of daughter
00:42:25.680 here is interesting. Is daughter in the song just because it rhymes with water? Perhaps. I mean, I'm
00:42:32.060 sure that helps. I've talked to many songwriter friends of mine. I'll say, wow, what about that
00:42:35.820 lyric? And they'll say, oh, it sounded good. So I'm sure that has some part of it, but it actually
00:42:42.380 doesn't really matter what's going on in the artist's mind. What matters is the work of art
00:42:46.460 itself. And to mention, pure as water like a newborn daughter has something beautiful because
00:42:52.460 it's avoiding some of the worse aspects of modern versions of Christianity is they really don't
00:43:02.780 capture the whole of the faith. And in particular, what they lose is a feminine side of the faith,
00:43:08.180 the notion that we are the bride of Christ. The church is literally the bride to the bridegroom
00:43:14.040 who is Christ. The idea that the Marian aspect of things, the idea that Mary plays an incredibly
00:43:22.980 significant role in the history of salvation, a role that we will never know until we get to heaven.
00:43:27.960 That Mary is born without original sin in the immaculate conception. That's the traditional
00:43:32.500 understanding of Mary. Like a newborn daughter, it captures an aspect in a way that is lovely. It's
00:43:41.300 really a lovely song and has lovely music. It goes on, the storm may come, but we'll get through it
00:43:46.280 because of your love. Either way, we crash like water. Your love's water, pure as water.
00:43:51.800 Jesus flow through us. This is where Kanye comes in and just, this is the verse. Jesus flow through us.
00:43:56.840 Jesus, heal the bruises. Jesus, clean the music. Jesus, please use us. Jesus, please help. Jesus,
00:44:02.380 please heal. Jesus, please forgive. This is a total acceptance of grace, not the Pelagian heresy. If I'm
00:44:10.640 going to work for it and it's about me and it's only about my struggles, you play a role in your
00:44:16.180 salvation. You have a role to play in your salvation because you have free will and you can turn away
00:44:19.960 from God. But if you turn toward God and allow that grace to come, it is overflowing like water.
00:44:25.880 You see this even in the Annunciation when the angel Gabriel comes down to Mary.
00:44:29.620 God's grace comes all the way down the mountain and then heaven holds its breath when the angel
00:44:34.860 says, hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you. And the angel says, you will conceive a child.
00:44:42.840 She doesn't understand how that's possible. And she says, I'm the Lord's servant. His will be done.
00:44:46.860 The heavens hold their breath while Mary ascends to God's will, but God's will is overflowing like
00:44:51.820 water. And this constant going back, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, just like God is God, God, God. It's going
00:44:58.200 all back to Jesus, to, to living water. We are, and then we become as water because we are taken into
00:45:08.420 the body of Christ. St. St. Paul uses this. So he says, I wish to dissolve, cupio dissolvi. It is no
00:45:14.140 longer I who live, who lives, but Christ who lives in me, pure as water. A really beautiful song. It's,
00:45:21.460 and it's one that's not getting enough attention on the album. I encourage you to listen to a Kanye
00:45:24.940 West album. Never thought I would say that, but somehow hope somehow in, in this political world
00:45:31.880 that we're living in and the cultural world in this religious world, our expectations are confounded.
00:45:37.720 President Trump doing a lot of good things. ISIS is dead. Kanye West is alive. They're subverting
00:45:46.880 our expectations. When I, when I saw this news come out, you know, that ISIS is completely dead.
00:45:51.880 Somehow we were told it was, it was going to be the exact opposite. ISIS was going to be
00:45:56.040 reconstituted. And we saw it came out. I said, wow, that's great news. Then I saw Kanye West releases
00:46:00.640 an album called Jesus is King, which all the fears I had about it, that it would be about Kanye,
00:46:04.760 that it would be about, that it would be saccharine, that it would be bad. There'd be
00:46:08.780 heretical. None of those come true. It's actually profound. And it's, it's an album that's not focused
00:46:13.020 on the self and it's doing, I think a lot of good in the culture. My, my conclusion of that is we are
00:46:17.960 living in the greatest timeline. We are, this is good news. ISIS is dead. Kanye is alive and there is
00:46:23.700 hope for the culture. Hope springs eternal in the human breast because hope is not just a feeling.
00:46:28.120 It's not optimism or pessimism, some shallow feeling. It's a fact. Hope is a fact and you're going to have
00:46:33.400 hope in very real events, very real things. It's really in reality, really, really, really in
00:46:41.520 reality. Uh, we don't have too much time to talk about Politicon. So I have to encourage you to go
00:46:46.000 over and watch and listen to the debate. I debated Chris Hahn, the Fox News Democrat in Nashville
00:46:51.200 yesterday at Politicon. And very quickly, the debate became not just me against Chris Hahn.
00:46:56.840 It became me against Chris Hahn and Clay Aiken, two liberals debating one conservative. So,
00:47:02.960 you know, it's a fair fight. Uh, even then you should go check it out because, uh, Clay
00:47:07.860 really lost it. I mean, he melted down. He started swearing at the audience. He, he really let his
00:47:13.780 leftism show. And I think it's a pretty good example in what Clay was doing about what the
00:47:19.780 left does when conservatives don't let them shut us up. So go check it out. In the meantime,
00:47:24.140 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.
00:47:26.000 You got daughters, always keep them safe. Watch out for vipers. Don't let them indoctrinate.
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