The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 439 - ISIS Is Dead, Kanye Is Alive

00:00:00.000 The leader of ISIS has been killed. That's the big announcement from the White House. We will

00:00:05.320 examine the gory details and what it means for U.S. foreign policy and what it means for media

00:00:10.580 coverage of U.S. foreign policy. Then Congressman Katie Hill resigns from Congress a week or two,

00:00:18.060 a full week or two after those creepy naked photos of her exploitative relationship with her staffer

00:00:24.120 come out. We will examine the double standards of the sexual revolution. Finally, Kanye West

00:00:29.880 comes to Jesus. All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:41.940 All right. We have got a lot to get to today. I also want to mention a little bit about

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00:02:38.280 the mainstream media told us that ISIS was about to be reconstituted? ISIS was coming back because

00:02:45.880 Trump moved 50 soldiers in northern Syria, out of northern Syria, and therefore it was,

00:02:51.000 we're going to have ISIS all over again. It's all Trump's fault. It's all the Republicans. We got to

00:02:55.640 vote them out. It's a, oh, wait a second. Wait, I'm getting new information. Under the administration,

00:03:02.300 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been killed, the leader of ISIS. Here's President Trump making the announcement.

00:03:06.660 Last night, the United States brought the world's number one terrorist leader to justice.

00:03:14.580 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead. He was the founder and leader of ISIS, the most ruthless and violent

00:03:24.560 terror organization anywhere in the world. The United States has been searching for Baghdadi

00:03:32.300 for many years. Capturing or killing Baghdadi has been the top national security priority

00:03:39.700 of my administration. U.S. Special Operations Forces executed a dangerous and daring nighttime raid

00:03:49.120 in northwestern Syria and accomplished their mission in grand style.

00:03:55.480 This is great news. Great news. Very well done. And the message was delivered. Okay, we're all done,

00:04:04.280 right? No, of course we're not done because the president is Donald Trump. So instead of just

00:04:08.680 leaving it there, United States special operators conducted a mission. It was a dangerous mission.

00:04:13.480 We took out the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. And that's it. That's all you're ever going to hear

00:04:18.020 about this. And it's done. No, no, no. President Trump comes out and he he just describes what all

00:04:24.360 of us want to hear, which is the gory details. Here's the president. The U.S. personnel

00:04:31.540 were incredible. I got to watch much of it. No personnel were lost in the operation.

00:04:42.880 Well, a large number of Baghdadi's fighters and companions were killed with him.

00:04:51.120 He died after running into a dead end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way.

00:04:58.640 The compound had been cleared by this time with people either surrendering or being shot and killed.

00:05:06.000 Eleven young children were moved out of the house and are uninjured.

00:05:13.440 The only ones remaining were Baghdadi in the tunnel.

00:05:19.600 And he had dragged three of his young children with him.

00:05:26.400 They were led to certain death. He reached the end of the tunnel as our dogs chased him down.

00:05:36.640 He ignited his vest, killing himself and the three children. His body was mutilated by the blast.

00:05:46.080 The tunnel had caved in on it in addition. But test results gave certain

00:05:53.680 immediate and totally positive identification. It was him.

00:05:58.080 Crying, whimpering, screaming, chased down by dogs.

00:06:06.240 I love it. I love it. I like hearing this. And it's not wrong to like hearing this.

00:06:11.920 Trump is catching a lot of flack because they're saying he's not behaving like Obama. He didn't give

00:06:17.600 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi a proper funeral. You remember after we killed Osama bin Laden,

00:06:21.360 they gave him a proper funeral. And we never saw any photos and we never saw any confirmation of this.

00:06:28.000 Trump is going out there. He's saying we went out there, we picked up the guts and the gore and all

00:06:32.320 the remains in the cave and we made sure it was him and we chased him down like an animal.

00:06:36.720 Good. We should hear that. There was a time in this country when we weren't afraid to show the

00:06:41.920 inhumanity of our enemy. And it's important to show the inhumanity of our enemy. It's important to

00:06:46.560 have some moral clarity. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was one of the worst people in the world. He raped,

00:06:53.440 killed, pillaged, and burned. He was a true monster and an animal. And it's proper to describe him as 1.00

00:07:01.440 such. We used to do this. There is nothing especially moral about restraining yourself when

00:07:08.320 talking about a vicious enemy like this. There's nothing particularly moral about not celebrating this

00:07:14.000 victory of killing the worst terrorist leader in the world. This is, this is, this is what the 0.90

00:07:21.360 president does in many ways. He's being criticized for being unpresidential here. This is the role of

00:07:27.200 the president. We've talked a lot about how the founders are so brilliant. They set up our separation

00:07:32.240 of powers, our three branches of government to correspond to the three parts of the human soul.

00:07:38.060 There's the logos, the pathos, and the ethos. So there's the logical part. There's just the

00:07:43.160 rigorous logical part. That's the Supreme Court. That's the judiciary branch. Those are the guys

00:07:47.880 who are just looking at the facts. Does it always work out that way? Absolutely not. But that's how

00:07:51.140 it's supposed to work out. Then you have the emotional branch, the branch that corresponds to

00:07:55.760 appetites, the wills of the people. That would be the Congress. That's why they're elected every two

00:08:00.200 years in Congress. And in the Senate, they're elected every six years. They are much more responsive

00:08:04.860 and reactive to what the people themselves want. And then you have the ethos, the spirited part,

00:08:10.280 the part that represents the spirit of the nation. That would be the president. That's the

00:08:14.880 executive branch, which does not exist simply to deliberate and to contemplate and to only use

00:08:21.060 faculties of reason. It is using the spirit. This is why the president of the United States is not just

00:08:26.180 some functionary at the post office. That's why not all government employees are exactly the same.

00:08:30.820 He is actually representing something about our spirit as a country. I remember after 9-11,

00:08:36.860 I guess it was on 9-11, President Bush gave his speech and he said, the images that we're seeing

00:08:43.740 on television of planes flying into buildings fills us with deep sadness and a quiet, unyielding

00:08:50.940 anger. It's my favorite line of the speech because it wasn't just some polished political speech

00:08:58.360 written by some Harvard graduate. It represented what all Americans were feeling, which is in part

00:09:05.140 what we are asking the president to do, to represent our spirit in one person, in one branch. Same

00:09:12.100 thing, actually another George Bush example. When he went down to the pile on 9-11, he had that bullhorn

00:09:17.080 and someone said, he said, we can't hear you because they couldn't hear him giving a speech. And he said,

00:09:22.520 well, I can hear you. And the rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings

00:09:28.600 down are going to hear from all of us soon. That's not a workshop speech. That's not the kind of thing

00:09:35.640 you put in front of focus groups. That's just really expressing a genuine aspect of the spirit.

00:09:40.500 That's what Trump was doing with Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. I wish that President Obama had reacted that way

00:09:47.020 to the death of Osama bin Laden. What Osama bin Laden did was traumatic for the nation. It was incredibly

00:09:53.220 traumatic, certainly the greatest national trauma of my lifetime and probably the greatest national

00:09:58.040 trauma since the civil war. That demands a response that's, that's not simply clinical. That's not just

00:10:07.800 stating the facts. This really matters to people. You know, after Trump announced that the ISIS leader,

00:10:15.880 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had been killed in this U.S. raid, the mother of Kayla Mueller, or I don't know how to

00:10:22.400 pronounce her name, Mueller or Mueller. This was the American aid worker who was kidnapped by ISIS in

00:10:27.420 2013, repeatedly sexually abused by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi himself. The mother said her daughter

00:10:35.500 might still be alive if President Obama had been as decisive as President Trump. Does Trump get credit

00:10:41.660 for killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi? Yes. It's not like he was pulling the trigger. I mean, it was the special

00:10:48.380 operators who went into this really risky mission, but he gets credit in the way that Obama gets credit

00:10:53.320 for killing, killing Osama bin Laden because he made the decision. He's the decider. Ultimately, 0.93

00:10:58.400 that decision goes up to the presidential level and Obama made it. So he gets some credit for killing,

00:11:04.520 killing Osama bin Laden and Trump made that decision. So he gets some credit for killing 0.83

00:11:09.720 Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. The mother of this abducted aid worker said, I still say Kayla should be here.

00:11:18.660 And if Obama had been as decisive as President Trump, maybe she would have been. For me, what

00:11:22.860 matters most, I'm hoping now we will finally get the answers we have been asking for all along.

00:11:27.580 I think this administration truly might help us. I don't think they are as closed about what happened.

00:11:33.380 This is pretty harsh language against President Obama. She's saying he just wasn't

00:11:37.160 decisive. Now he was decisive when it came to Osama bin Laden, but it is strange that ISIS

00:11:41.580 began on Obama's watch and it began largely because we, we so quickly withdrew from Iraq that

00:11:47.740 the Islamic state was able to, uh, to come up. He didn't get it. Obama didn't get it. You know,

00:11:54.280 they, they harangued Bush because Bush didn't get bin Laden and then Obama did. Well, Obama didn't get

00:11:59.620 ISIS, didn't get Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and Trump did. And I'm sure you're going to see very different

00:12:04.560 reactions to those two stories based on where people fall on the political aisle. Now, Trump

00:12:09.320 is also getting criticism about this. It's unbelievable. You kill the worst terrorist in

00:12:14.200 the world and somehow you get criticized for it. Trump is also getting criticism because he did not 0.81

00:12:18.580 inform congressional Democrats that the raid was about to happen. Now, President Trump, I think,

00:12:25.440 has a pretty good reason for this. He said he didn't want it to leak. Here's, here's his

00:12:30.040 explanation. You requested the, to the Russians to fly over this area they controlled. What did

00:12:35.400 you tell? We spoke to the Russians. What did you tell them? We told them we're coming in. Okay. And 0.95

00:12:41.060 they said, thank you for telling us. They were very good. But did you tell them why? No. No. They

00:12:48.080 did not know why. Was any other? Uh, we did tell them, we think you're going to be very happy

00:12:53.280 because, you know, again, they hate ISIS as much as we do. You know what ISIS has done

00:12:58.280 to Russia. So, uh, no, we did not tell, they did not know the mission, but they knew we

00:13:03.440 were going over an area that they had, uh, they had a lot of firepower.

00:13:08.060 And have you notified the congressional leaders about this? Pelosi? Uh, we've notified some

00:13:14.760 others are being notified now as I speak. Uh, we were going to notify him last night,

00:13:20.720 but we decided not to do that because Washington leaks like I've never seen before. There's

00:13:25.600 nothing, there's no country in the world that leaks like we do. And Washington is a leaking

00:13:31.720 machine. And I told my people, we will not notify them until the, our great people are

00:13:38.880 out, not just in, but out. I don't want to have them greeted with, uh, firepower like you

00:13:45.640 wouldn't believe. Fair enough. He says, look, Washington leaks all the

00:13:50.540 time. You got leaks, especially coming out of Adam Schiff, like crazy leaks, even coming

00:13:55.460 out of our intelligence community. So I'm not going to let you guys know. Totally fair.

00:13:59.280 And the left is sort of proving his point here in their reaction to the killing of

00:14:04.660 al-Baghdadi. I mean, there you now have on MSNBC, you somehow have MSNBC panelists discussing

00:14:13.180 how killing the worst terrorist in the world, actually capital A C K S H actually killing 0.98

00:14:21.540 the worst terrorist in the world is a bad thing because, uh, I don't know. MSNBC can explain

00:14:27.420 it. Yeah, no, no, but I, I wonder here, um, if this type of killing only reinforces the ideology

00:14:35.000 of Baghdadi's followers and in fact, strengthens it. Well, it doesn't make it any easier for those 0.91

00:14:43.960 of us who want to destroy the organization completely. It's really actually bad. It's

00:14:49.280 really, you know, killing the leader of this organization now makes it really hard to destroy

00:14:53.960 the organization. And, you know, frankly, look, if we kill them, you know, they kind of, they win, 0.98

00:14:59.560 you know, if you really think about it, you know, but if you really think about it, 0.99

00:15:02.600 this is a completely ridiculous argument and they're making it because this is a, 0.88

00:15:09.900 this is an unobjectionable win for the white house. This is an absolute good for the country. 0.98

00:15:18.360 They're they've, they've really done something great here. We have defeated ISIS. And I think

00:15:23.240 the real reason that the left is so upset about it is, is really the timing too. It's so cuts against

00:15:30.800 the narrative that we were hearing just last week. The narrative was ISIS is about to reform.

00:15:37.300 You heard it from some Republicans who didn't want Trump to pull those troops out of Northern Syria.

00:15:41.960 And not only is ISIS not currently reforming, ISIS has now been struck the most decisive blow

00:15:48.780 in the history of ISIS. This is a cause for some skepticism. Now, when we approach the mainstream media,

00:15:55.660 because their predictions just keep being so wrong. The greatest example of this is actually not MSNBC.

00:16:03.460 I don't even want to really pick on MSNBC. The greatest example of this is the Washington Post.

00:16:08.900 The Washington Post, where democracy dies in darkness, ran an obituary for the leader of ISIS

00:16:16.660 that read. I am not, I am not making it up. It said that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, an austere religious

00:16:27.440 scholar and leader of the Islamic state dies. An austere religious scholar. Adolf Hitler, passionate 0.65

00:16:38.140 community planner and dynamic public speaker dies at 56. That was one version that went around on,

00:16:43.620 on Twitter. Another one. Mao Zedong, who saved 20 to 45 million of his own people from having to

00:16:51.060 suffer through the struggle of existence, dies at 82. I put one out, said Attila the Hun,

00:16:57.400 renowned world traveler and government administrator, dies at 46. When I saw this Washington Post headline,

00:17:08.180 I did not believe it. And I, it is not possible for me to have less respect for the Washington Post.

00:17:13.600 than I currently do. And yet even I said, this has to be a Babylon Bee parody of, of the Washington

00:17:22.580 Post. No, it was, it was real. They then changed the headline. They changed the headline a few times.

00:17:27.420 It was extremist leader, but a lot of it focused on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's scholarly training on his

00:17:33.480 expertise in Islam. And it's such an irony because all we heard during the rise of ISIS is that the

00:17:41.920 Islamic state has nothing to do with Islam. Here's Barack Obama saying as much.

00:17:48.100 Now let's make two things clear. ISIL is not Islamic. No religion condones the killing.

00:17:54.500 Look, let's be clear. Let's be perfectly clear. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who has a PhD in Islamic

00:17:58.740 theology from Baghdad University, that he doesn't know nearly as much about Islam as me.

00:18:04.740 Some guy in America who's not a Muslim. Let, let, let me be perfectly clear. He also calls them

00:18:11.100 ISIL instead of ISIS, which everybody called them. He, Obama would call them ISIL because it, if he

00:18:18.540 called him ISIS, it would acknowledge that Obama had completely bungled Iraq and Syria, the Islamic 1.00

00:18:25.080 state of Iraq, Iraq and Syria. So he called him ISIL, which was the Islamic state in the Levant or the

00:18:31.560 Islamic state of Iraq in the Levant, which was a little muddier. And so Obama didn't have to take 0.99

00:18:35.740 total credit for it, but he completely bungled the thing up and it exposes this lie. The left

00:18:40.360 wants to have it both ways. The left wants to revere this austere religious scholar. They want

00:18:45.400 to say, gosh, this guy really knew a lot about Islam and then say, but also he doesn't know anything

00:18:49.600 about Islam. It depends what argument they're trying to make about the religion of peace. We'll get to that

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00:20:50.940 because it admits that the left has been lying for years when they say that ISIS has nothing to do

00:20:57.540 with Islam. If ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, then I guess Abu, the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

00:21:05.320 is not much of a religious scholar. If he is a religious scholar, he probably knows something

00:21:11.600 about Islam. And the answer is, of course he knows something about Islam. He knows a lot more about it

00:21:15.560 than Barack Obama does or any of the American left who have never cracked open the binding on the

00:21:21.640 Quran, have never read a page of it, have never studied anything about the religion, and simply say

00:21:27.280 that it is the religion of peace. Now, is that to say that ISIS represents all of Islam everywhere,

00:21:34.760 all around the world? No, of course not. But it does admit that there is a complex question here,

00:21:40.840 and it's not a complete coincidence that radical Islamic terrorism has some coincidence with Islam.

00:21:48.120 And Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, he was a really important figure in this way as well. I mean,

00:21:51.820 the fact that he was a religious scholar does matter because he did command some serious credibility on

00:21:58.420 Islamic theology. He also was one of the most notorious terrorists in the world. He got chased 0.61

00:22:03.180 down by dogs screaming and whimpering, and now he's dead. That is a very good thing. The bad news for

00:22:10.140 the left here, bad news for Democrats, especially on the Hill, this is not going to help them in their

00:22:16.280 impeachment argument. Killing really, really, really bad guys tends to boost your president's

00:22:22.020 popularity. I nearly liked Barack Obama for six or seven hours after he made the decision to go kill 0.96

00:22:28.840 Osama bin Laden. This is really going to hurt their impeachment calls. It's really going to knock their

00:22:33.120 credibility. And that's not the only woe that Democrats are facing on the Hill right now.

00:22:38.180 Democrats on the Hill also have to deal with the resignation of Representative Katie Hill, 0.90

00:22:43.400 a total weirdo pervert who was engaged in a throuple with her, a throuple as a couple for three 0.64

00:22:50.000 people, a throuple with her husband and a 22-year-old staffer. So we're not, we're not even 0.98

00:22:57.480 just talking about perfectly fun, free love, consensual, do whatever you want to do, man.

00:23:03.940 We're talking about what the left in any other situation would call sexual harassment. We're talking

00:23:11.320 about inappropriate relationships with young female staffers. We're talking about the Me Too movement,

00:23:16.140 except it's never the Me Too movement when it comes to Democrats. So there were some reactions to this.

00:23:23.540 I mean, there were so many photos that came out. Katie Hill could no longer sustain this. There was

00:23:29.040 one photo of her sitting completely naked behind her completely clothed female staffer brushing the 1.00

00:23:36.380 staffer's hair. These photos were so far beyond sexy. Like they were so far beyond anything that

00:23:45.660 any normal person could remotely consider titillating. And they just were fully 100%

00:23:52.320 creepy. There was no, nothing titillating was left in them. So she's, she's brushing the hair. That

00:23:57.840 wasn't even the weirdest one. There was another photo of naked Katie Hill, the Democratic Congressman 0.62

00:24:03.600 ripping a bong and showing her iron cross tattoo. She had a Nazi era German tattoo on her body while

00:24:12.240 ripping a bong, while doing a bunch of drugs, while sexually harassing her staffer, even for the left, 0.69

00:24:17.320 they couldn't defend this anymore. So they, they kick her out. You know, she resigns. She can no longer

00:24:23.640 sustain it. Even at that point, the left wasn't going down without a fight. So Buzzfeed runs the

00:24:29.800 greatest headline of all. This, I think officially wins the award for dumbest article on the internet 0.99

00:24:34.900 today. The headline representative Katie Hill will resign after details of her sex life were published. 0.99

00:24:45.760 Oh my gosh. Jeffrey Epstein was driven to suicide after shameless tabloids leak details of his personal

00:24:57.320 life. That's not the story guys. The story is she and her husband, who seems like kind of a creepy guy

00:25:03.640 too, were exploiting this young staffer in weird threesomes that they would go on and taking photos

00:25:10.360 of it and taking photos of using illicit drugs and taking photos of the Congressman's naked body with

00:25:15.480 Nazi tattoos. Oh, and also the Congressman Katie Hill is leaving her husband and her 22 year old staffer 1.00

00:25:24.720 because she's also been sleeping with her male finance director. So awful. I can't believe those

00:25:31.740 tabloids leaked details of her sex life. So she's the real victim here. If you ask me, you know, if you

00:25:37.980 really think about it, but actually, but actually this is such rank hypocrisy. And I just, the article

00:25:45.760 goes on. I have, I have to keep reading. Hill said her supporters should quote, no longer be subjected

00:25:51.760 to the pain inflicted by my abusive husband and the brutality of political operatives. So funny. The

00:25:58.880 husband has made a few Facebook posts here. And because initially Katie Hill tried to spin this as 0.95

00:26:04.360 she's discovering her sexuality and she's becoming a lesbian and it's therefore a good thing that she's 0.99

00:26:09.320 leaving her husband and her husband posted and said, you're leaving me for a man. You're not a 0.99

00:26:13.820 lesbian. We we've been engaged in this weird threesome for a few years, but you're not, you're not 1.00

00:26:19.820 leaving me for a woman. I don't know why that would be good if you leave your husband for a woman, but 1.00

00:26:25.480 it's definitely not good. If you're leaving your husband for another guy who who's also an employee

00:26:30.420 of yours, nothing about this is defensible. Katie Hill, but she said my abusive husband. And of course

00:26:36.000 the brutality of political operatives, how dare those political operatives make Katie Hill take 1.00

00:26:42.120 naked photos with her staffers, ripping bongs and having Nazi tattoos. So awful of them to do that.

00:26:46.180 The piece goes on. Representative Katie Hill is resigning from Congress amid an allegation

00:26:51.340 that she had an inappropriate relationship with a member of her staff.

00:26:55.620 I guess, uh, allegation is a new word for many photographs. She's resigning from many amid many

00:27:04.400 photographs coming out, showing her inappropriate relationship. They go on the conservative website,

00:27:09.120 red state published text messages and photos indicating that Hill had been in a consensual sexual

00:27:14.560 relationship with a female staffer on her campaign. And that she was also involved with a male staffer

00:27:20.460 in her congressional office. It's just that awful conservative website that showed that

00:27:24.120 totally consensual relationships. Also, if a male boss ever pays a compliment to any female employee,

00:27:31.120 he's done. He's got to be fired and thrown out and he's been practically a rapist. But if a female 0.99

00:27:36.240 congressman has a completely exploitative relationship with her 22 year old female staffer, 1.00

00:27:41.640 where the staffer actually describes herself as having been heartbroken and ripped apart by this,

00:27:46.540 that is wonderful and consensual. And wow, great job. That's, that's the sexual revolution.

00:27:52.740 The piece goes on. Hill, who is openly bisexual, admitted and apologized for having a relationship

00:27:56.940 with the female staffer, but denied any improper relationship with the male staffer. Hill says those

00:28:01.880 claims came from her ex-husband whom she is divorcing. Okay. Okay.

00:28:07.900 All of this just shows you how little you really can trust the media and the left. I know it's like

00:28:20.540 we almost don't even need to say it anymore, but I don't think I've seen two clearer issues in the

00:28:27.720 news in recent days. And somehow the left has managed to completely flip them. Trump kills the

00:28:33.160 most wanted notorious terrorist in the world. The heir to Osama bin Laden, a cartoonishly evil 0.99

00:28:39.540 terrorist and under Trump's watch, the United States kills him. And the left somehow spins that 0.97

00:28:45.300 as a bad thing. A democratic Congresswoman has a cartoonishly ridiculous affair with one of her 0.98

00:28:54.700 staffers. And I mean, I couldn't, if I took that script into a Hollywood studio and I said, Hey, 0.97

00:28:59.840 I want to do a movie about a bisexual congressman having a throuple with her husband and a female 1.00

00:29:05.640 staffer. And also she combs her hair while naked and the staffer's clothes. And also she's ripping 1.00

00:29:11.520 bong hits on camera. You see all of this. Oh, and also she has Nazi tattoos. If I handed that into the 0.57

00:29:16.960 Hollywood studio, they would say that's too on the nose, Michael. You've got, that's ridiculous. 0.99

00:29:21.560 A clear case. And yet somehow the mainstream media portrays the Congressman as a victim. 0.95

00:29:25.740 What this means is the next time the media give you some outrage, the next time they say Trump did

00:29:34.680 the worst thing in the world, the next time they say some Republican Congressman did the world, just

00:29:39.440 take a deep breath, calm down and remember that these guys are lying to you. And I think increasingly

00:29:45.440 people are seeing the light. One guy in particular is seeing the light. He is probably the avatar of the

00:29:51.400 pop culture. Maybe the biggest guy in the pop culture, other than the president himself.

00:29:56.600 That would be Kanye West. Kanye West has come to Jesus. He's released an album called Jesus is King.

00:30:05.980 You know, I don't care for hip hop. You know, I don't care for most popular music made after World

00:30:09.920 War I. I listened to the album. We will analyze Kanye's come to Jesus moment. We'll see where it stands.

00:30:18.320 We'll see what it means for music, for Kanye's own soul and for the culture. Then if we have time,

00:30:24.560 we will also talk a little bit about my debate at Politicon, not with Chris Hahn, who is the Fox

00:30:29.800 News Democrat, the aggressive progressive that I was supposed to debate, but actually a debate where

00:30:34.800 I guess Chris was there. He was participating, but really the debate came from Clay Aiken, who was

00:30:40.020 supposed to be the moderator. Clay Aiken, totally objective, unbiased. You can watch and listen to that

00:30:46.740 whole debate on YouTube. I'll post it to my Twitter page as well. That was from Politicon 2019.

00:30:54.160 We'll post that there because it was a real trip. But first, I've got to say goodbye to Facebook and

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00:31:28.160 I never thought that I would do this, but I have got to do a close reading of Kanye West

00:31:47.780 because Kanye West has this album out, Jesus is King, and it's quite good. Now, what do I mean by

00:31:55.080 then? I don't care for much modern music. I don't care for hip hop at all. I really don't care for

00:32:00.880 modern Christian music. I really don't like that. So this seems like the intersection of everything I 0.94

00:32:08.540 hate. The thing I like about it is I've always felt that Kanye West has a very good ear. The line I've

00:32:15.360 used about him in the past is that he has such a great ear for music that he then makes worse by

00:32:20.380 rapping over it. But he has a real incredible musical talent. He does hear things, not just in

00:32:26.840 the music, but in the culture as well. This album just reads as very sincere. And I was also afraid

00:32:34.600 that the music was going to be heretical or soapy or saccharine and sentimental like so much

00:32:41.640 Christian music. And it's not. You know, the best, the best worst version of this is a song called 1.00

00:32:50.140 On Eagle's Wings that they play in blue hair Vatican II Catholic churches where there are three people in

00:32:56.200 the parish and the songs weren't even cool in the 70s, but they all just really get into it.

00:33:00.480 And the song says, I will raise you up on eagle's wings, which is also not true. I will never raise

00:33:07.460 anybody up because I am a person on I am not God. So it's, it has the, it's not only a terrible song

00:33:12.320 to listen to, but it has the added injury of being heretical. So I was afraid we were going to get some

00:33:17.200 of this stuff from Kanye West or that we were just going to get a bunch of other kind of nonsense

00:33:20.840 with more of a hip hop vibe. It's not what we got. Three songs in particular, I really liked.

00:33:26.860 God is closed on Sunday and water. I think you should listen to those songs. God is here are the

00:33:34.200 lyrics. Well, you can hear just, just listen to just a little bit to get the sense of the music.

00:33:53.740 So the song reads, God is my protection. God is my all and all. God is my light in dark

00:34:04.180 darkness. Oh, God is, he is my all and all. God is my joy in the time of sorrow. God is my all and

00:34:12.900 all. God is my today and my tomorrow. God, God, my God is my all and all. God is the joy and strength

00:34:21.160 of my life. God is remove all pain and misery and strife. God is, he promised to keep me never to

00:34:27.300 leave you. He'll never, ever come short of his word. I've got to fast and pray, stay in that narrow way,

00:34:32.960 keep my life clean every day. I want to go with him when he comes back. I've come too far

00:34:37.620 and I'll never turn back. God is, God is, God is, God is, God is my all and all. It's a beautiful

00:34:42.140 song. The thing that I first noticed about the album is the songs are short. They should be short.

00:34:49.500 Modern musicians tend not to have that much to say. And if you say things quickly,

00:34:53.960 there can be something profound. What is God? You know, when, when Moses asks,

00:34:59.180 when Moses asks God, who do I say you are? God doesn't say I'm God. I'm this guy. I'm that guy.

00:35:05.720 Because God is the essence of being. He is. So God says, I am that I am. I, he, God is so

00:35:16.100 being that he simply is the same thing. Christ is asked about his divinity. And he says, before

00:35:25.120 Abraham was, I am, Christ is always in the present because he is the essence of being. And that is

00:35:33.160 what the song means. That's the title of the song. God is profound and simple and something that

00:35:40.860 probably has not occurred to many aficionados of modern music. God is my all and all. Every line

00:35:48.560 in here is true. There's no, no heresy as far as I can tell. My day is my today and my tomorrow.

00:35:55.400 He's eternal. Not, not even, not bound by our linear conceptions of time. He's the alpha and

00:36:02.020 the omega, the beginning and the end. He is all of that. He's, he is outside of time and space and

00:36:07.680 inserts himself into time and space in the incarnation. My all in all, this constant, just going

00:36:13.160 back to God. You don't want it to be like one of these Jesus is my girlfriend songs where you

00:36:18.100 mentioned Jesus a couple of times, but you could replace the word Jesus with baby and it would just

00:36:22.780 be a regular modern song. That would be missing the point. God, he keeps coming back. The song is

00:36:28.880 called God is, you just keep going back to the name of God for a beautiful song. The next one is the

00:36:33.540 funniest song in the album. It's called closed on Sunday. And it is a song about Chick-fil-A. Have a

00:36:38.800 listen. When you get daughters, always keep them safe. Watch out for vipers. Don't let them

00:36:48.160 indoctrinate. Closed on Sunday. You my Chick-fil-A. Love it. Love it. Great stuff, Kanye. The other thing

00:36:57.060 I was worried about this album is that Kanye was just going to take himself too seriously.

00:37:02.180 Chesterton said the angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly. Kanye can take himself

00:37:08.420 lightly here as well. It's, it's one of the catchier songs on the album. And it's just very

00:37:12.900 funny. Closed on Sunday. You're my Chick-fil-A. Closed on Sunday. You're my Chick-fil-A. Hold the

00:37:17.960 selfies. Put the gram away. Put the Instagram away. Get your family. Y'all hold hands and pray. When you

00:37:23.660 got daughters, always keep them safe. Watch out for vipers. Don't let them indoctrinate. Closed on Sunday. 0.99

00:37:29.560 You're my Chick-fil-A. So this is a song about the Sabbath. And it's a song about Chick-fil-A.

00:37:36.340 And it's because Chick-fil-A is representative of the modern culture. And it's even an example of

00:37:42.540 being in the consumer culture in modern America, but still keeping holy the Sabbath day, but still

00:37:48.620 keeping holy sacred things, but not totally losing yourself in these, this den of vipers,

00:37:55.080 not totally losing yourself in this completely illusory culture of Instagram and this totally

00:38:01.980 self-centered idea of selfies, not losing yourself and trying to make more money on Sunday.

00:38:06.180 This, this idea that you will take a moment and reflect and contemplate.

00:38:12.560 You're my Chick-fil-A. Closed on Sunday. You're my Chick-fil-A. You're my number one with the lemonade.

00:38:17.640 They have lemonade at Chick-fil-A. Raise our sons, train them in the faith through temptations.

00:38:22.180 Make sure they're wide awake. Follow Jesus. Listen and obey. No more living for the culture.

00:38:28.820 We're nobody's slave. We're nobody's slave. Even in the consumer culture, we're not going to be wage

00:38:35.380 slaves. We're not going to, because if you work, I mean, this is one of, one of the many explanations

00:38:41.160 of the Sabbath is no matter how much money you make, no matter how successful you are,

00:38:46.460 if you are constantly working, if you're working 100% of the time, you're a slave. It doesn't matter.

00:38:52.540 You could own the biggest corporation in the world. You're still a slave

00:38:54.900 to your appetites for money, to your appetite for power, to all, to your appetites literally

00:39:00.980 for the chicken sandwich. The chicken sandwich is representing those appetites. And Kanye West

00:39:05.020 is saying, we're going to close it on Sunday to raise our kids, to have our family, to contemplate

00:39:11.640 God. Most importantly, to follow Jesus. We're not living for the culture. We're not living for mammon

00:39:17.080 and for the here and now. We are living for a kingdom that is not of this world. He goes on,

00:39:21.980 stand up for my home. Even if I take this walk alone, I bow down to the king upon my,

00:39:26.540 the throne. My life is his. I'm no longer my own. I pray to God that he'll strengthen my hand. They

00:39:31.780 will think twice stepping on my land. I draw the line. It's written in the sand. Try me and you will

00:39:36.200 see that I ain't playing. Now back up off my family, move your hands. I got my weapons in the spirit's 0.99

00:39:42.780 land. What an amazing turn. You know, so much of popular hip hop music speaks about violence.

00:39:50.020 Sometimes it advocates violence. And Kanye is nodding to that here. And he's speaking not

00:39:56.240 about physical warfare. He's speaking about spiritual warfare. We are fighting against

00:40:02.060 principalities and powers. We are fighting against spiritual darkness, not just random people on the

00:40:09.920 street. This juxtaposition of the modern, the material, the things that satisfy our appetites in

00:40:19.300 this world and the spiritual and the metaphysical world. This juxtaposition in the very funny catch

00:40:25.740 of Chick-fil-A is really quite smart. He says, Jezebel don't even stand a chance. Jezebel don't

00:40:32.600 even stand a chance. Really, really good song. And it's funny. And you can tell when people have

00:40:37.560 lost the narrative, no matter how well-intentioned they are, when they completely lose their sense of

00:40:42.100 humor. Kanye hasn't. In many ways, he's gained more of a sense of humor in this. Shows you maybe he's on

00:40:47.480 the right path. And then the last song, people aren't talking about it as much, but I think

00:40:51.160 it's really, really good, is a song called Water. Give a listen.

00:40:54.240 It's water. That's the name of the song. Listen to the lyrics.

00:41:15.240 Clean us like the rain and spring. Take the chlorine out of our conversation. Let your light reflect on

00:41:21.560 me. I promise I'm not hiding anything. It's water. We are water. Pure as water, like a newborn daughter.

00:41:30.300 The imagery of the water is the imagery of baptism, of rebirth. It's the imagery of laundering your soul

00:41:37.440 in the confessional. It's the laundry, or it's the imagery rather, of taking something which is dirty

00:41:42.740 and making it clean. And not artificially clean, but really clean. You know, even this cleanest like

00:41:49.540 the rain in spring, take the chlorine out of our conversation. Take the artificial sanitizing

00:41:59.060 aspect out of our conversation. Present ourselves as really as dirty and damaged as we are by original

00:42:06.120 sin and clean us. Clean us. Let your light reflect on me. I promise I'm not hiding anything. I'm not

00:42:11.900 hiding it. There's no chlorine in our conversation. I'm not holding anything back. Here's what I am.

00:42:16.600 Please clean me pure as water in the baptism. Pure as water like a newborn daughter. The use of daughter 0.81

00:42:25.680 here is interesting. Is daughter in the song just because it rhymes with water? Perhaps. I mean, I'm

00:42:32.060 sure that helps. I've talked to many songwriter friends of mine. I'll say, wow, what about that

00:42:35.820 lyric? And they'll say, oh, it sounded good. So I'm sure that has some part of it, but it actually

00:42:42.380 doesn't really matter what's going on in the artist's mind. What matters is the work of art

00:42:46.460 itself. And to mention, pure as water like a newborn daughter has something beautiful because

00:42:52.460 it's avoiding some of the worse aspects of modern versions of Christianity is they really don't

00:43:02.780 capture the whole of the faith. And in particular, what they lose is a feminine side of the faith, 0.95

00:43:08.180 the notion that we are the bride of Christ. The church is literally the bride to the bridegroom

00:43:14.040 who is Christ. The idea that the Marian aspect of things, the idea that Mary plays an incredibly

00:43:22.980 significant role in the history of salvation, a role that we will never know until we get to heaven.

00:43:27.960 That Mary is born without original sin in the immaculate conception. That's the traditional

00:43:32.500 understanding of Mary. Like a newborn daughter, it captures an aspect in a way that is lovely. It's

00:43:41.300 really a lovely song and has lovely music. It goes on, the storm may come, but we'll get through it

00:43:46.280 because of your love. Either way, we crash like water. Your love's water, pure as water.

00:43:51.800 Jesus flow through us. This is where Kanye comes in and just, this is the verse. Jesus flow through us.

00:43:56.840 Jesus, heal the bruises. Jesus, clean the music. Jesus, please use us. Jesus, please help. Jesus,

00:44:02.380 please heal. Jesus, please forgive. This is a total acceptance of grace, not the Pelagian heresy. If I'm

00:44:10.640 going to work for it and it's about me and it's only about my struggles, you play a role in your

00:44:16.180 salvation. You have a role to play in your salvation because you have free will and you can turn away

00:44:19.960 from God. But if you turn toward God and allow that grace to come, it is overflowing like water.

00:44:25.880 You see this even in the Annunciation when the angel Gabriel comes down to Mary.

00:44:29.620 God's grace comes all the way down the mountain and then heaven holds its breath when the angel

00:44:34.860 says, hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you. And the angel says, you will conceive a child.

00:44:42.840 She doesn't understand how that's possible. And she says, I'm the Lord's servant. His will be done.

00:44:46.860 The heavens hold their breath while Mary ascends to God's will, but God's will is overflowing like

00:44:51.820 water. And this constant going back, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, just like God is God, God, God. It's going

00:44:58.200 all back to Jesus, to, to living water. We are, and then we become as water because we are taken into

00:45:08.420 the body of Christ. St. St. Paul uses this. So he says, I wish to dissolve, cupio dissolvi. It is no

00:45:14.140 longer I who live, who lives, but Christ who lives in me, pure as water. A really beautiful song. It's,

00:45:21.460 and it's one that's not getting enough attention on the album. I encourage you to listen to a Kanye

00:45:24.940 West album. Never thought I would say that, but somehow hope somehow in, in this political world

00:45:31.880 that we're living in and the cultural world in this religious world, our expectations are confounded.

00:45:37.720 President Trump doing a lot of good things. ISIS is dead. Kanye West is alive. They're subverting

00:45:46.880 our expectations. When I, when I saw this news come out, you know, that ISIS is completely dead.

00:45:51.880 Somehow we were told it was, it was going to be the exact opposite. ISIS was going to be

00:45:56.040 reconstituted. And we saw it came out. I said, wow, that's great news. Then I saw Kanye West releases

00:46:00.640 an album called Jesus is King, which all the fears I had about it, that it would be about Kanye,

00:46:04.760 that it would be about, that it would be saccharine, that it would be bad. There'd be

00:46:08.780 heretical. None of those come true. It's actually profound. And it's, it's an album that's not focused

00:46:13.020 on the self and it's doing, I think a lot of good in the culture. My, my conclusion of that is we are

00:46:17.960 living in the greatest timeline. We are, this is good news. ISIS is dead. Kanye is alive and there is

00:46:23.700 hope for the culture. Hope springs eternal in the human breast because hope is not just a feeling.

00:46:28.120 It's not optimism or pessimism, some shallow feeling. It's a fact. Hope is a fact and you're going to have

00:46:33.400 hope in very real events, very real things. It's really in reality, really, really, really in

00:46:41.520 reality. Uh, we don't have too much time to talk about Politicon. So I have to encourage you to go

00:46:46.000 over and watch and listen to the debate. I debated Chris Hahn, the Fox News Democrat in Nashville

00:46:51.200 yesterday at Politicon. And very quickly, the debate became not just me against Chris Hahn.

00:46:56.840 It became me against Chris Hahn and Clay Aiken, two liberals debating one conservative. So,

00:47:02.960 you know, it's a fair fight. Uh, even then you should go check it out because, uh, Clay

00:47:07.860 really lost it. I mean, he melted down. He started swearing at the audience. He, he really let his

00:47:13.780 leftism show. And I think it's a pretty good example in what Clay was doing about what the

00:47:19.780 left does when conservatives don't let them shut us up. So go check it out. In the meantime,

00:47:24.140 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 28, 2019

Ep. 439 - ISIS Is Dead, Kanye Is Alive

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