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00:00:37.760 30 years ago, the Berlin Wall fell, destroying Soviet communism and vindicating the conservative Reagan revolution.

00:00:45.620 But that great victory for freedom created a big problem for the conservatives, libertarians, traditionalists, religious right,

00:00:52.240 everybody who made up the post-war conservative movement.

00:00:54.380 What unites us all now?

00:00:57.000 We will examine the rubble of the Berlin Wall.

00:00:59.360 Then, Elizabeth Warren picks up an endorsement from the backbone of our democracy, she says.

00:01:06.300 The good guys get a win in the war on Christmas, and leftists try to save a convicted murderer and rapist from execution.

00:01:14.120 All that and more.

00:01:14.940 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:16.620 The Berlin Wall fell down 30 years ago, almost to the day.

00:01:29.140 The Berlin Wall existed, stood from 1961 up until November 9th, 1989.

00:01:37.620 So we're a few days late.

00:01:38.580 I've noticed a lot of people haven't really been commemorating the fall of the Berlin Wall, which was the most significant moment in most people's lifetime, most people who were alive today.

00:01:50.140 I guess I was alive today, but I was still in the womb.

00:01:53.180 So according to the left, I wasn't alive.

00:01:54.700 I was just like a completely dead, inorganic clump of cells or something.

00:01:58.340 And according to reality, I was alive.

00:02:00.880 And it was a very significant event.

00:02:03.320 It was an event that was inaugurated by Winston Churchill.

00:02:09.600 He announced this metaphorical Iron Curtain much earlier, in 1946, at Westminster College in Missouri, in America.

00:02:19.620 And he described this Iron Curtain.

00:02:21.960 And in this speech, we see the very beginning of what we would have called the modern conservative movement.

00:02:27.960 Ladies and gentlemen, this is no time for generality.

00:02:31.040 And I will venture to be precise.

00:02:34.800 A shadow has fallen upon the scenes so lately lighted by the Allied victory.

00:02:45.780 Nobody knows what Soviet Russia and its communist international organization intends to do in the immediate future.

00:02:54.840 From Stettine, in the Baltic, to Trieste, in the Adriatic, an Iron Curtain has descended across the continent.

00:03:04.620 Behind that line lie all the capitals of the ancient states of Central and Eastern Europe.

00:03:12.520 Warsaw, Berlin, Prague, all these famous cities and the populations around them lie in what I must call the Soviet sphere.

00:03:28.780 That's the Soviet sphere.

00:03:32.400 That's the Iron Curtain.

00:03:34.420 Well, I think, actually, a lot of people, when they think of that speech, one of the most famous speeches of the 20th century,

00:03:40.500 they think of it as referring explicitly to the Berlin Wall, because the Berlin Wall was such an image of communist oppression.

00:03:47.700 But the Berlin Wall wasn't built for 15 years until after that speech.

00:03:52.500 The Iron Curtain was this sphere of Soviet influence.

00:03:55.060 Actually, the phrase Iron Curtain wasn't Churchill's own phrase.

00:03:58.940 He borrowed it from Joseph Goebbels, from the Nazi Joseph Goebbels,

00:04:03.440 who had, I think, was the first person to describe Soviet influence as an Iron Curtain.

00:04:10.820 And Churchill picked up on that.

00:04:12.300 And, of course, it was true.

00:04:13.060 And it was very bizarre for Americans to hear this, because we had been told throughout the whole war that the Soviet Union was our friend.

00:04:20.660 Uncle Joseph Stalin was our friend.

00:04:22.420 And now we hear that he's imprisoning half the world behind an Iron Curtain.

00:04:27.340 What this did, what the Iron Curtain did, the end of the Second World War and the advance of Soviet communism,

00:04:34.420 was it forged what would have been called the conservative movement.

00:04:38.600 And we are now in a moment where we're trying to figure out what the conservative movement means.

00:04:42.060 It forged what was called fusionism.

00:04:45.700 Fusionism was developed by William F. Buckley Jr. at National Review and Frank Meyer, an editor at National Review.

00:04:53.280 And fusionism made perfect sense during the Cold War.

00:04:58.300 What fusionism did is it brought together libertarians and traditionalists and the religious right and social conservatives,

00:05:06.060 brought all these people together with a common enemy, Soviet communism.

00:05:11.040 Now, what did the libertarians have to say about the Soviet Union?

00:05:16.220 Libertarians and the classical liberals hated communism because it was collectivistic.

00:05:22.620 So you had this kind of individualist economics versus collectivist economics.

00:05:27.240 Then why would the traditionalists and the religious right and social conservatives hate the Soviet Union?

00:05:32.320 Because the Soviet Union was atheistic.

00:05:34.880 So you had theism, Christian civilization versus the atheist Soviet Union.

00:05:41.400 And therefore, the libertarians, the economic individualists, and the social conservatives and the traditionalists come together in this fusionist body brought together mostly by Bill Buckley.

00:05:53.660 Secondly, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, those groups did not have much in common.

00:06:00.480 What was amazing about the fall of the Berlin Wall is it basically vindicated the whole fusionist coalition because it worked.

00:06:07.560 They defeated the Soviet Union.

00:06:09.680 We had been told since the early 20th century from the New York Times and the Evening Post and all these leftists that the Soviet Union was the future.

00:06:18.840 I mean, they said, I've seen the future and it works.

00:06:22.140 That was Lincoln Steffens, the journalist, referring to Soviet communism.

00:06:26.460 And then Bill Buckley famously said, a conservative stands athwart history yelling stop because you might have the future, you might have seen the future in the Soviet Union, but we're going to stop it.

00:06:37.080 And it worked, it justified it.

00:06:38.900 I mean, the huge advance of conservatism in America brought to the pinnacle under Ronald Reagan, who was probably the only man in America who knew that the Berlin Wall was going to come a-tumbling down.

00:06:49.480 I spoke to Peter Robinson, who's the host of Uncommon Knowledge on the Hoover Institution and who wrote the famous tear-down-this-wall speech.

00:06:59.920 And he constantly refers to Reagan's vision.

00:07:03.660 He knew, he had that boldness.

00:07:05.240 He said, tear down this wall.

00:07:07.480 Well, Mr. Gorbachev, because he knew that communism was doomed.

00:07:12.720 And while all the smart people in suits and ties in America said we had to come to some sort of understanding with those slave masters in the Soviet Union, Reagan said absolutely not.

00:07:21.780 And that fusionist conservative coalition ultimately won.

00:07:25.460 I think it was Charles Krauthammer who said the most shocking event of his life was the fall of the Berlin Wall.

00:07:30.200 And it was shocking to a very many people, but not to Ronald Reagan, because he knew that that thing was going to tumble down.

00:07:35.720 So it vindicated that.

00:07:37.160 And yet, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the conservative coalition had no reason to stay together anymore, which brings us to where we're going now, because we're in a fraught moment for the conservative worldview.

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00:09:54.980 So the Berlin Wall falls, great victory of conservatism, and now the question is, what does it mean to be a conservative?

00:10:05.860 Fusionism is not coming back.

00:10:09.160 The Buckley Coalition is not coming back.

00:10:11.800 Not because of any problem with Bill Buckley.

00:10:14.320 He's one of the greatest men in recent American history.

00:10:17.040 It's not coming back because communism is no longer seen to pose an existential threat.

00:10:21.380 I mean, you see this all around you anecdotally, and you see it in polls.

00:10:26.460 There was a poll from the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.

00:10:30.880 This is a pretty recent poll.

00:10:31.820 It showed that communism is viewed favorably by more than one in three millennials.

00:10:37.020 And millennials are people now who are late 20s, early 30s.

00:10:41.220 How about the younger generation?

00:10:43.340 Only 57% of Gen Z, that's the generation after us,

00:10:48.020 and only 62% of millennials believe that China is a communist country and not a democratic country.

00:10:55.100 So it seems to be getting worse.

00:10:57.780 You know, I meet a lot of the Zoomers, a lot of Gen Z when I go to my speeches, and they're great.

00:11:01.880 They give me great hope for America.

00:11:04.620 But those are just the ones that show up and tune in to conservative speeches on college campuses.

00:11:10.140 The majority of them, the trend is not looking great.

00:11:13.480 Now, if you've got these kind of numbers, I mean, even if you look at still with millennials,

00:11:20.900 57% of millennials believe that the Declaration of Independence guarantees freedom and equality better than the Communist Manifesto does.

00:11:29.920 57%.

00:11:30.480 What's that say about the other 43%?

00:11:32.980 Not great.

00:11:34.760 Let's compare to 94% of the World War II generation believes that the Declaration of Independence

00:11:39.700 is a better way to protect freedom than the Communist Manifesto, which is just obviously true.

00:11:44.520 That number drops to 57% of millennials.

00:11:46.920 Why?

00:11:47.260 Why are these numbers so low?

00:11:48.840 Part of it is indoctrination.

00:11:51.220 K through 12, and then into college, and so many millennials are going to college, getting saddled with debt,

00:11:57.680 in most cases for no reason whatsoever,

00:12:00.420 and they're being indoctrinated into hating their own country and to unlearning their own history.

00:12:05.580 An ISI study, the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, found that, and this was an older study from 2007,

00:12:12.040 found that at elite colleges in the country, graduating seniors knew less about their government

00:12:17.380 and their history and their politics than incoming freshmen.

00:12:20.520 They were actually becoming more ignorant during college.

00:12:24.040 So part of it's indoctrination.

00:12:25.780 Part of it is the ignorance comes from the fact that these millennials and Gen Z

00:12:30.640 have never witnessed the historical problems.

00:12:34.900 I was in the womb when the Berlin Wall fell down, and I'm a millennial.

00:12:40.340 Gen Z, they mostly don't remember 9-11.

00:12:47.080 I mean, they just haven't seen, certainly they haven't seen the historical problems of communism.

00:12:51.100 We defeated communism before they came of age.

00:12:54.420 So they just didn't see it, and naturally it's not going to be at the top of their mind.

00:12:57.760 Those are two reasons, and we can blame that on the left,

00:13:02.120 and we can blame that on specifically a failure of education to teach people their own history

00:13:07.260 and to teach people their own civics and political philosophy.

00:13:12.980 The third problem is the tougher one to grapple with,

00:13:16.140 which is the failures of modernity.

00:13:19.700 Okay?

00:13:19.980 And conservatives, if we want to address this challenge,

00:13:22.600 we need to be able to see reality for what it is.

00:13:25.960 There are many, many failings of modernity.

00:13:30.560 There are many, many failings of what we would call the kind of capitalism of the 1980s.

00:13:38.520 It's still a hell of a lot better than socialism.

00:13:40.800 I mean, I'm not saying we need to go over to AOC.

00:13:42.980 She's got all the wrong answers.

00:13:44.360 Bernie Sanders got all the wrong answers.

00:13:45.800 But there have been problems caused by a very specific type of political philosophy

00:13:51.540 and economic philosophy that we've embraced more or less as a consensus.

00:13:55.300 What do I mean by that?

00:13:56.540 We're told, we're told that we've never had it so good.

00:14:00.880 GDP is so high.

00:14:01.920 Unemployment is so low.

00:14:03.140 Everything is great where riches can be.

00:14:05.380 That's all true, right?

00:14:06.820 Those are the facts.

00:14:07.940 However, anxiety, stress, depression, suicidality are all through the roof.

00:14:14.180 They are surging.

00:14:15.740 Among teenagers, suicide is up 70% in recent years.

00:14:21.900 And we have to grapple with that reality.

00:14:25.140 Something is not quite right.

00:14:28.040 Now, what the left and the socialists and AOC would say is,

00:14:31.360 see, our economic system is hopelessly rotten and we've got to overhaul it

00:14:36.960 and steal everybody's wealth and then that'll make us all happier.

00:14:39.480 Of course, that's not going to make us happy at all.

00:14:41.080 Well, money can't buy happiness, which is a lesson that the left and the socialists haven't learned.

00:14:46.920 But also, money can't buy happiness.

00:14:48.620 And so the problem of our politics and our culture is very likely not exactly economic.

00:14:55.040 If everything's so good, if we've never had it any better than this,

00:14:59.060 then why are we so anxious?

00:15:01.340 Why are we so stressed?

00:15:02.160 Why are we so depressed?

00:15:02.980 Why are we suicidal in many cases?

00:15:05.060 Why are antidepressant drugs so prescribed?

00:15:08.780 Why are we lonelier than ever?

00:15:11.600 Why are we so...

00:15:12.660 Reports of loneliness are through the roof.

00:15:15.500 This is a cultural problem that the right has failed to address in large part, I think,

00:15:23.620 because we so prioritize the hyper-individualism that was used successfully to defeat Soviet communism.

00:15:30.940 Why are we so lonely?

00:15:32.300 I'll give you one example.

00:15:34.520 In 1950, do you know what the median age was for getting married?

00:15:39.880 In 1950, the median age to get married for a man, 22 years old.

00:15:47.240 That was when you could expect to get married in 1950 if you were a man.

00:15:50.220 If you were a woman, 20 years old.

00:15:53.160 Pretty young by today's standards.

00:15:54.960 In 2010, the median age to get married for a man, 28 years old.

00:16:02.880 The median age to get married for a woman, 26 years old.

00:16:05.680 We are delaying maturity.

00:16:08.080 We are living alone a lot longer.

00:16:11.380 And the numbers can't just be accounted for with something simple like college attendance rates.

00:16:17.440 They partake in real political and cultural problems that the right is debating right now.

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00:18:25.180 So, people, even as things materially are so great, are anxious, stressed, depressed, lonely.

00:18:37.100 They're not getting married.

00:18:38.220 They're staying single longer.

00:18:39.380 And when you ask people why they're not getting married, whether it's on a survey or just anecdotally,

00:18:43.160 because I talk to a lot of young people, especially on college campuses,

00:18:46.320 they'll tell you the reason they're not getting married is they're saddled with debt.

00:18:49.620 They've been funneled into college.

00:18:51.120 You know, in 1940, I think it was about 5% of Americans graduated from a four-year college.

00:18:56.900 Now, 60% of high school graduates anticipate, expect to go to a four-year college.

00:19:01.820 Many of them are not going to graduate, but that's a huge increase.

00:19:05.480 Do all of those people need to go and get a liberal education?

00:19:09.760 No, they don't really need to do that.

00:19:11.300 For many of them, they won't get a liberal education anyway.

00:19:14.180 They'll get saddled with $200,000 in debt.

00:19:16.320 They'll put themselves in a much worse position than they could be.

00:19:18.940 And they'll get indoctrinated in leftism.

00:19:21.640 So they'll say, well, we're in debt.

00:19:23.720 I want to pay off my debt before I get married.

00:19:25.760 Other people will say that they don't want to get married just yet because

00:19:29.540 they were raised without a vision of a transcendent moral order.

00:19:33.260 And I'm not throwing any stones here.

00:19:35.020 I mean, we all grew up in this kind of environment.

00:19:37.340 And so you grow up and you say, why would I get married when I can just hook up all the time

00:19:41.700 and go to bars and be single and have fun and do whatever I want and not be accountable to anybody?

00:19:47.340 The secret of this is marriage is much more satisfying and gratifying.

00:19:51.580 But you can't tell somebody this.

00:19:53.640 You just have to experience it before you believe it.

00:19:56.080 I know that because people told me that and I didn't believe it at all either.

00:19:58.860 But that's the secret.

00:20:00.440 I mean, that's the dirty little trick of the temptation of staying single

00:20:02.920 and just satisfying your own desires and appetites and not being accountable.

00:20:07.240 But for a whole generation or now two generations that was raised without any real solid sense of a moral order,

00:20:14.220 they're just not going to feel any compulsion to do it.

00:20:18.400 People want to pursue their own interests.

00:20:20.680 That's the me, me, me society that we're living in, particularly exacerbated by social media

00:20:25.940 and the fact that we're all the little celebrity in our own heads.

00:20:30.240 This is a consequence, not just of leftism.

00:20:34.920 And the right needs to grapple with that.

00:20:37.900 This is a consequence of a hyper-individualism unbridled from any moral order.

00:20:45.620 This is a consequence of allying with people who don't share our values,

00:20:51.900 though they might be good partners to attack the Soviet Union with.

00:20:56.660 We need to grapple with that.

00:20:59.020 What is the effect of this hyper-individualism removed from the transcendent moral order?

00:21:04.260 What is the effect of the so-called fiscal conservative social liberal,

00:21:08.520 meaning libertarian individualist on economic issues and derelict on social issues?

00:21:15.760 Something that I refer to as greedy leftism, as greedy Democrats.

00:21:20.160 One effect of that is right now, in cities around the country, and I think especially in Los Angeles,

00:21:27.800 some young people are paying $800 a month to live in cages.

00:21:34.020 Cages.

00:21:34.660 I'm not joking about that.

00:21:36.300 This is so dystopian, but it's real.

00:21:40.060 And there's actually a silver lining to this story.

00:21:42.040 But in any case, we'll get to that after.

00:21:43.760 In any case, people are paying $800 a month to live in what amounts basically to cages,

00:21:50.520 to pods, in a response to a political consensus that no longer makes much sense.

00:21:56.680 There is a community for young people in cities across the country now called Upstart.

00:22:02.380 It's for young artists and people who aren't making a whole lot of money,

00:22:05.420 who need affordable places to live.

00:22:07.140 Now, what people used to do is, you know, go in with some friends and live in apartments with a lot of roommates.

00:22:13.620 I did this in New York.

00:22:15.380 My two very good buddies of mine and I lived in this very tiny apartment.

00:22:20.440 I think my bedroom was about 70 square feet with no windows, and one wall was fake.

00:22:25.640 But, you know, at least they were kind of pals of mine, and we just all decided to go live together.

00:22:29.060 Now, what people are doing is they're just renting their own individual pods.

00:22:36.160 Like, you climb up into a little box, and that's where you sleep.

00:22:39.660 Each room contains up to six capsules, which the people who live there describe as cozy.

00:22:45.040 I think that's probably a euphemism.

00:22:46.700 And it's a single bed, a bar for hanging clothes, a few compartments for shoes and other items, and an air vent.

00:22:54.680 And it's still, you're still paying about $800 a month for this.

00:22:59.060 Is that the vision of life that we want to live in?

00:23:02.880 No.

00:23:03.360 I mean, that is a dystopian horror movie version of what a hyper-individualistic, isolating society is going to look like,

00:23:14.020 where you all just pay a lot of money, and you climb up, and you live in your pod,

00:23:17.940 and you check into your pod at night like you're a kind of bug or an animal or something.

00:23:22.000 Then you get out and go work for the man again tomorrow.

00:23:24.760 Now, there's a silver lining here.

00:23:27.380 And this also tells us something about the political problem.

00:23:30.500 Upstart has the good central location, modern building, and it's got a gym and dance classes and a recording studio and an arts workshop and cleaning and laundry.

00:23:39.340 And one of the rules here is that men and women have to sleep apart, and they're not allowed to get frisky with one another.

00:23:46.180 No getting handsy after dark in the pods.

00:23:50.860 One description of this is that on taco night, you get 50 people who all live in these little individual pods,

00:23:57.940 and they'll come together in one of the four building complexes, communal areas.

00:24:02.680 So the downside of it is you've got this hyper-individualistic kind of dystopian lifestyle.

00:24:09.540 But the upside is trying to reclaim a sense of normality or a sense of a normal order in all of this.

00:24:19.340 So people coming together.

00:24:20.860 In one sense, you're living as isolated as you possibly could be.

00:24:23.540 In another, you've got 50 sort of roommates that maybe you can make friends with.

00:24:27.080 In the one sense, you're extracting yourself from all of your humanity.

00:24:31.300 On the other, you're trying to regain some kind of traditional moral rules because you're not allowed to get frisky in the pods.

00:24:39.540 You're not allowed to completely become an animal.

00:24:41.700 It's a very schizophrenic way of living.

00:24:44.660 That is something that I think if you asked a thousand people on the street, 999 of them would say,

00:24:50.200 people shouldn't live like that.

00:24:52.400 People, even if you're living in Manhattan and your apartments are maybe indistinguishable

00:24:56.920 from that pod, at least there you've got your own apartment.

00:25:00.300 People should have their own apartment, their own house, their own space.

00:25:04.140 They should not live like they're animals or like they're robots.

00:25:08.540 And this hyper-individualistic, all that matters is squeezing, pinching every single penny,

00:25:14.100 no connections to family, no connections to community.

00:25:17.200 We're just in our own little pods.

00:25:18.720 That's not a way that people want to live.

00:25:21.380 And a conservatism that is going to make sense in the future is going to be one

00:25:26.100 that addresses that very legitimate problem.

00:25:30.420 The worst product of this political confusion of our times is what we would call identity politics.

00:25:37.460 Okay?

00:25:37.960 And I want to be really specific about that term because in a certain sense,

00:25:41.680 all politics is identity politics in the sense that politics is about you and me living together

00:25:46.620 in a community.

00:25:48.540 That's politics comes from the polis, the city-state.

00:25:52.360 We're all just trying to live together.

00:25:53.520 Now, this kind of works well when identity is rooted in unity,

00:26:01.280 when identity is rooted in subjects of real significance,

00:26:04.360 in shared culture and customs and love of country and ultimately in God.

00:26:10.320 This kind of system becomes absolutely barbaric

00:26:14.400 when the identity politics is rooted in difference,

00:26:17.880 which is really what we mean by identity politics,

00:26:20.480 when it becomes a brutal battle of interests,

00:26:24.440 not a reasonable exchange of ideas and a decision of how to live together in a community.

00:26:29.980 That system creates discord when identity is viewed merely through differences.

00:26:35.960 And the left has gone in this direction for a very long time, for about a century.

00:26:39.880 First, they wanted to divide people on class.

00:26:42.140 Then it was about race and sex.

00:26:44.740 The right has flirted with this as well.

00:26:47.840 And it's always ugly and it's always very stupid.

00:26:51.300 Nowhere has this been better exemplified than in Elizabeth Warren latest campaign endorsement announcement

00:26:58.720 from a group called Black Womoxon 4.

00:27:03.880 Black, it's, I guess it's Black Women 4,

00:27:06.400 but it's women spelled with an X instead of an E,

00:27:08.840 so I guess it's pronounced Womoxon.

00:27:11.480 We will get to that endorsement in just a second.

00:27:14.220 We will get to her silly response to that endorsement.

00:27:18.420 We will get to this kind of mindless politics and maybe try to plot a way out of it.

00:27:23.940 We will get to an orangutan who has been declared a person in Florida,

00:27:28.920 only in Florida, folks.

00:27:30.340 And we will get to death row inmate Rodney Reed,

00:27:33.040 who some people are defending because they have no sense of justice.

00:27:36.400 We'll get to all of that and even a little update from the war on Christmas.

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00:28:27.600 All right.

00:28:28.280 The race for president is over, folks.

00:28:30.400 Liz Warren, she's won it.

00:28:32.440 She hasn't just won the nomination.

00:28:34.980 She's won the whole presidency.

00:28:38.080 Trump can pack his bags and she can start measuring the drapes

00:28:41.120 because Liz Warren has received the endorsement of what she describes as

00:28:47.160 the backbone of our democracy.

00:28:50.460 A group with 3,000 Twitter followers called Black Womokson 4.

00:28:57.860 Here is their announcement.

00:28:59.400 Despite pervasive attacks on our communities, our identities, and our lives,

00:29:07.720 Black trans and cis women, femmes, gender non-conforming, and non-binary folk

00:29:13.320 remain at the forefront of each and every social movement to hold this country accountable.

00:29:20.120 We are progressive Black leaders who are not impressed by political theater.

00:29:24.500 We know that big things happen when Black women come together

00:29:28.540 and take our own space in the political process.

00:29:31.900 And though no one person could hold all our aspirations in the hopes for a president,

00:29:37.020 there is one leader who we believe will work with us.

00:29:40.200 Hold on.

00:29:40.680 Just before we go on and finish, was that last person in a hostage video?

00:29:46.220 The way, at least the first couple performances,

00:29:49.080 although absolutely absurd, ridiculous identity politics,

00:29:53.320 at least they seem sort of enthusiastic.

00:29:55.080 That third one looked like she was being held hostage,

00:29:57.700 obviously reading from a script.

00:29:58.960 We believe that the most inspiring beep, boop, beep, beep, boop.

00:30:03.920 So the endorsement goes on to explain why Liz Warren is the choice.

00:30:09.920 That candidate is Senator Elizabeth Warren.

00:30:13.620 She has a track record of taking on the predatory policies that harm our communities.

00:30:20.300 We've come together as a collective voice.

00:30:23.320 And we hope to encourage others, especially Black women and gender non-conforming folks,

00:30:28.740 to join us.

00:30:29.500 We are all in for Warren.

00:30:31.000 And if you are too, go to blackwoman4.org,

00:30:34.300 sign the endorsement statement, and join us.

00:30:36.480 There it is.

00:30:40.220 There it is.

00:30:40.920 The election's over.

00:30:42.160 Who are the black women?

00:30:43.820 The Wimixson.

00:30:45.060 It's just a Twitter account.

00:30:46.440 It just has 3,000 followers.

00:30:48.720 It's not a lot of followers in terms of political accounts.

00:30:51.900 But in the age of identity politics,

00:30:54.360 this group has the absolute audacity to pretend to speak for all black women and some black men,

00:31:01.760 because they're saying trans women, which is really just men,

00:31:04.640 and gender non-conforming people, whatever that means.

00:31:08.560 So when you add all those people together,

00:31:10.400 by a conservative estimate, you're talking about 19 million Americans.

00:31:15.860 And you've got a Twitter account of 3,000 people claiming to speak for them,

00:31:19.280 black women.

00:31:20.180 And Elizabeth Warren was happy to take it and go along with the pretense.

00:31:23.320 By the way, Elizabeth Warren has very, very little black support.

00:31:26.800 When you just look at the polling numbers, she's not doing that well.

00:31:29.640 She's not as bad as Bernie.

00:31:30.960 But Joe Biden has much, much higher levels of black support.

00:31:35.400 So Elizabeth Warren goes to this one identity politics group,

00:31:39.100 and they say, oh, no, the black women actually were for Elizabeth Warren.

00:31:42.580 And she plays along with it, because it's politically advantageous to her.

00:31:46.460 Elizabeth Warren tweeted out, quote,

00:31:49.000 Thank you, Black Wimics and Four.

00:31:52.560 Black, trans, and cis women, gender non-conforming, and non-binary people

00:31:58.180 are the backbone of our democracy.

00:32:02.000 And I don't take this endorsement lightly.

00:32:04.980 I'm committed to fighting alongside you for the big structural change our country needs.

00:32:11.300 Black, trans, and cis women, gender non-conforming, and non-binary people

00:32:14.660 are the backbone of our democracy.

00:32:17.220 You might be surprised to hear that if you're a, an Hispanic woman.

00:32:22.600 You're not the backbone of our democracy, according to Elizabeth Warren.

00:32:25.820 Hispanic women, nope, sorry, don't, I, what do they, they're less important to our democracy

00:32:30.940 than black, trans, and cis women, gender non-conforming, non-binary people, according to Elizabeth Warren.

00:32:40.380 Obviously, white people, much less important.

00:32:42.580 Native American people, less important.

00:32:44.120 Black men, according to Elizabeth Warren, less important to our democracy

00:32:48.620 than black, trans, and cis women, gender non-conforming, and non-binary people.

00:32:54.500 Now, does Elizabeth Warren really think this?

00:32:56.780 No, because if she thought that, she wouldn't be running for president.

00:33:00.340 She would instead vote for a black, trans, or cis woman, gender non-conforming, or non-binary people.

00:33:06.000 But, identity politics makes people lose their mind, especially on the left, but on the right wing, too.

00:33:12.680 Makes people lose their mind and say very silly and stupid things, such as this.

00:33:17.460 If, if Elizabeth Warren really believed this, the most important people to our democracy were black women,

00:33:22.820 she would drop out of the race and vote for Kamala Harris.

00:33:24.820 She obviously doesn't think that, because, obviously, one's skin color is not the most important aspect of their identity.

00:33:33.180 Far from it.

00:33:34.620 The, one's competency to be president of the United States is not determined by skin color.

00:33:43.240 And Elizabeth Warren knows that, even though she says she has high cheekbones and is therefore likely Native American.

00:33:47.400 I mean, she's been playing, this woman's been playing the most absurd side of identity politics her entire life.

00:33:54.100 This kind of mindless politics, racial politics especially, is making us all very stupid, and it's making us all very vacuous.

00:34:04.900 What it is doing is removing the contemplative and reasonable aspect from politics,

00:34:10.540 and it is just leaving us with interests and sentiment.

00:34:14.060 And, just basically, brutal people clubbing each other over the heads with their own irreconcilable interests,

00:34:22.240 and gussying it all up with sentiments, saccharine sentimentality, like the backbone of our democracy.

00:34:28.380 I mean, I guarantee you, if a Twitter group called Hispanic Women Four endorsed Elizabeth Warren,

00:34:34.320 she would say that they were the backbone of the democracy.

00:34:37.020 It's just so petty.

00:34:38.800 It's such pandering.

00:34:39.680 It leaves you with a politics that is incoherent and inhuman.

00:34:45.000 And speaking of an inhuman politics, you see this taking shape especially down in Florida.

00:34:50.560 In Florida, an orangutan named Sandra has now been declared a non-human person by a judge.

00:35:00.720 How can you be a non-human person?

00:35:02.380 Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

00:35:03.660 I certainly would have thought so.

00:35:05.360 But nevertheless, the orangutan is a person.

00:35:08.000 This is according to Judge Elena Liberatori.

00:35:10.980 Oh, gosh, and it's in Italian, too.

00:35:12.560 Talk about identity politics that I want to disavow and remove myself from.

00:35:16.140 This was a ruling based in 2015 that declared that Sandra the orangutan is not legally an animal,

00:35:23.140 but rather a non-human person entitled to some legal rights enjoyed by people and some better living conditions.

00:35:29.840 How on earth did this maniac judge come up with this ruling?

00:35:32.920 She explains, quote,

00:35:33.860 With that ruling, I wanted to tell society something new.

00:35:37.860 She didn't want to follow the law or anything.

00:35:39.720 No, no, no.

00:35:40.100 That's not what she wanted to do.

00:35:41.060 She's a judge after all.

00:35:42.420 She just wanted to tell society something new, quote,

00:35:45.240 that animals are sentient beings and that the first right they have is our obligation to respect them.

00:35:50.740 So, I think maybe we need to certainly focus on the care of this Sandra the orangutan.

00:36:00.080 Maybe we need to get better care for this judge, too.

00:36:02.220 She seems to be in dire need of some extra care.

00:36:05.660 So, the orangutan remained at the zoo because they're not going to buy her a house.

00:36:11.540 And then the zoo closed in 2016 and now Sandra the orangutan is in Florida.

00:36:20.180 It's another care facility.

00:36:22.600 This is madness.

00:36:25.340 But it comes from an identity politics that doesn't understand our own identity.

00:36:30.220 We are not primarily to be identified by mad characteristics, including the color of our skin or our profession or our socioeconomic status.

00:36:45.820 That is not our primary identity.

00:36:49.220 And a normal culture knows this.

00:36:50.980 The culture, our culture was crafted by Christianity.

00:36:53.680 Our civilization was crafted by Christianity and an understanding of God.

00:36:58.120 In the Old Testament, you see, when Moses asks to God,

00:37:00.720 Who are you?

00:37:01.400 Who shall I tell the Israelites that you are?

00:37:06.240 And God says, I am that I am.

00:37:09.960 God is the essence of being.

00:37:11.480 Christ says, before Abraham was, I am.

00:37:14.340 God describes himself as being itself.

00:37:17.560 When an individual or a community or a whole culture and civilization grounds their identity in the ultimate identity,

00:37:26.440 in God himself, that culture, that person, that civilization will see the world a little more clearly,

00:37:33.080 will be able to live in greater harmony, will understand himself and reality much, much better.

00:37:38.280 When society severs that understanding of the ultimate identity in God,

00:37:47.180 when society loses the understanding of I am that I am,

00:37:52.800 then that society is left with a pathetic question, which is, who am I?

00:37:58.100 Like a little child, like a little flower hippie child who leaves home and says,

00:38:03.220 I'm just going to go find myself and does a bunch of drugs or something.

00:38:05.900 Okay, it's a pathetic question.

00:38:09.180 And then you ground your identity in ultimately unsatisfying physical things,

00:38:15.520 including skin color or sex or sexual preferences or the amount of money that you have

00:38:22.520 or the job that you have or the neighborhood that you live in or your socioeconomic status

00:38:26.900 or the size of your house.

00:38:28.280 That will all be unsatisfying.

00:38:30.060 Politics grounded on those things will not be the kind of culture that we want to live in.

00:38:35.740 That will be the opposite of a heavenly politics, a politics that grounds our identity in God.

00:38:41.340 That will be a hellish politics.

00:38:44.160 And you see it all around us.

00:38:45.600 In fact, the nearest bit of hope I have on this is bizarrely in the questions being raised

00:38:52.720 by the transgender movement.

00:38:54.640 I've long predicted that transgenderism would cause a lot of headaches for the left

00:38:58.580 because it pits so many of leftist ideas against one another.

00:39:02.520 It pits feminism against gender theory.

00:39:06.220 It pits feminism, the idea that women are women.

00:39:08.880 There is such a category as women and they get to define womanhood for themselves,

00:39:11.940 against gender theory, which tells men that if they slap some lipstick on and wear a dress,

00:39:17.160 then they really are a woman.

00:39:18.200 That doesn't make a whole lot of sense together.

00:39:19.920 What transgender ideology begins to ask is actually about the nature of the soul, right?

00:39:27.040 How I can look like a man but secretly be a woman because of some immaterial metaphysical soul

00:39:34.160 is really what they're trying to say, but they can't bring themselves to say it.

00:39:37.140 Now, of course, it's not possible for your soul and your body to be totally opposed to one another.

00:39:41.080 It's not possible for us to live in a society that says that our physical selves have nothing to do

00:39:47.680 with who we really are.

00:39:49.080 I mean, that's actually, that was an idea that was tried a thousand years ago called Albigensianism

00:39:53.300 and we rejected it because it's completely lunatic.

00:39:56.260 But at least they're asking those questions that are shaking us out of this stale,

00:40:01.900 scientific, materialist, secular, individualistic, use whatever terms you want,

00:40:06.260 that stale political consensus that have obviously left people unsatisfied.

00:40:11.240 Some good news on this front.

00:40:13.440 Actually, we can see it in the war on Christmas.

00:40:16.380 There is a war on Christmas.

00:40:17.700 We'll get into it as the season gets a little closer.

00:40:19.660 There's also a war on Advent, which is waged by the people who are actually fighting the war on Christmas.

00:40:24.160 It gets very complicated and murky.

00:40:26.000 But what I will tell you is there was this whole slew of marketing materials that came in over the past 15 years,

00:40:33.720 really past 20 years, which was renaming Christmas trees into holiday trees,

00:40:38.420 which was taking the word Christmas out of television commercials and out of department stores

00:40:43.340 and off of coffee cups like the Starbucks cup.

00:40:46.520 Lost any imagery that could be associated with Christmas and just became a regular, boring, lame, clinical red cup.

00:40:52.640 And now that is changing.

00:40:54.740 You're seeing Christmas come back in.

00:40:57.060 You're seeing at least the new Starbucks cups as merry coffee.

00:41:00.480 Kind of annoying, but you know, that's fine.

00:41:02.140 As far as I'm concerned, until Simeon is depicted on the coffee cup proclaiming the nunc dimittis before the baby Jesus,

00:41:08.280 then we still have a lot of work to do in the war on Christmas.

00:41:10.520 But nevertheless, I'll take the victories that we can get.

00:41:14.320 The culture is calling for something more specific.

00:41:17.960 The culture is calling for something more real, more tangible.

00:41:21.440 Not just this clinical and isolating, lowest common denominator, materialism or secularism.

00:41:29.280 That's just unsatisfying to people.

00:41:30.860 It's leaving people depressed, anxious, living in little pods all by themselves, single, not getting married.

00:41:37.000 And that's not going to be able to last.

00:41:39.860 And all the left is offering is just another modernist solution.

00:41:44.380 It's just silly versions of Marxism and identity politics.

00:41:49.300 Some people on the right want to basically embrace those ideas.

00:41:52.860 I don't think that's going to do very much for us.

00:41:54.700 I think what we need to do is reclaim our culture.

00:41:58.220 And the way you reclaim the culture is you reclaim the foundation of that culture,

00:42:01.780 which is obviously related to cult, which is in the ultimate identity politics.

00:42:06.180 I am that I am, God himself.

00:42:07.720 Before we get to that, but rather, before we're able to completely fix the culture,

00:42:13.820 we should also mention a little something about justice.

00:42:17.740 There is a big story related to criminal justice.

00:42:20.300 That is about the death row inmate, Rodney Reed.

00:42:23.520 Many pop culture stars are trying to get this death row inmate sprung from the slammer.

00:42:30.400 This includes Rihanna and Kim Kardashian, who I suspect at this point has an office in the West Wing.

00:42:35.740 I have to assume she seems to have so much influence

00:42:39.780 when it comes to criminal justice reform in this administration.

00:42:43.640 So they're trying to get this guy sprung from the slammer.

00:42:46.440 And they say he was wrongly convicted.

00:42:48.100 And there are so many questions about his guilt.

00:42:51.320 There aren't really.

00:42:52.940 There just aren't.

00:42:53.820 Rodney Reed was convicted of the 1996 rape and murder of 19-year-old Stacey Stites.

00:42:58.620 This was due in large part to overwhelming DNA evidence showing him or suggesting that he is guilty.

00:43:07.320 He's set to be executed by the state in less than two weeks on November 20th.

00:43:11.640 Reed says he's the victim of racism.

00:43:13.880 Reed is black.

00:43:15.260 He says he's the victim of racial bias.

00:43:17.260 He claims he did not murder Stites, but was having a secret consensual affair with the then teenager.

00:43:23.640 And when her fiancé, Jimmy Fennell, who was a white police officer, found out,

00:43:28.840 he killed his fiancé and framed this man, Reed.

00:43:34.640 The evidence determined that Stites was raped in many different ways and was also strangled to death.

00:43:46.880 DNA from this teenager's private parts matches the DNA of Reed.

00:43:57.180 Rodney Reed.

00:43:58.120 His DNA was found everywhere that it would be found.

00:44:02.280 Initially, Reed denied even knowing the teenager when investigators asked him about this.

00:44:06.400 He said, I didn't know her, never met her, never talked to her, had no idea who she is.

00:44:10.200 The only thing I know is what I saw on TV.

00:44:11.940 Then he changed his tune when they found his DNA and said he had an affair with her, but it was consensual.

00:44:17.580 This was first matched up against other biological things that he left behind in a woman with an intellectual disability.

00:44:27.200 A woman named Caroline Rivas admitted to her caseworker that Reed, whom she had been dating, had also raped her.

00:44:34.020 Reed was also connected to the rapes of five other females, according to court documents, including a 12-year-old girl.

00:44:39.480 Now, Stites' fiancee at the time of the murder also doesn't seem like a terribly nice fella.

00:44:47.440 He went to prison and was released in 2018 after serving 10 years for kidnapping and alleged rape of a person in custody when he was a police officer in 2007.

00:44:57.300 And Arthur Snow, an inmate and one of the leaders of the Aryan Brotherhood gang at the prison that Fennell was serving at,

00:45:03.240 signed an affidavit saying that Fennell had bragged to him about killing Stites.

00:45:07.620 I don't know if this is true either.

00:45:10.560 Nobody seems like a terribly nice guy in this whole situation.

00:45:15.200 Now, of course, am I inclined to believe the leader of the Aryan Brotherhood?

00:45:19.780 Not especially.

00:45:21.500 So the Innocence Project, which tries to spring convicted death row inmates from the slammer,

00:45:27.300 is saying that a former sheriff's deputy also claimed that Fennell was glad that his wife or his fiancee was murdered.

00:45:38.280 Stites' family, the family of the victim, believes that Rodney Reed killed her.

00:45:44.520 This is not to say that we should dismiss claims of racial bias out of hand.

00:45:51.480 Certainly we shouldn't.

00:45:52.280 We should look into them.

00:45:53.380 This is not to say that there aren't problems in the criminal justice system.

00:45:57.360 There are.

00:45:57.900 We should investigate them.

00:45:59.960 Any reasonable look at the evidence in this case makes this guy look guilty as sin beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:46:07.460 And a system of justice must exact justice.

00:46:11.720 But we're unwilling to do that.

00:46:12.940 We're willing to give personhood rights to orangutans in Florida, but not personhood rights to little babies who are being born.

00:46:23.600 We are going to do as much as we can.

00:46:27.260 And Rihanna and, and Kim Kardashian are going to do as much as they can to spring this man, Rodney Reed, who's been connected to multiple rapes from the slammer.

00:46:37.260 And yet they would, I don't know about Kardashian or Rihanna personally, but the left would support the murder of a million babies a year.

00:46:46.960 They clamor for it.

00:46:48.120 They want taxpayers to pay for it.

00:46:50.820 That is, there's a real irony.

00:46:53.740 I mean, the people who say that we're living in a rape culture are the same people who are saying we need to free this, this rapist, Rodney Reed, from prison.

00:47:02.780 This is the toxicity of identity politics that is only going to view this case through the lens of race rather than through the lens of evidence of an identity politics that won't even acknowledge the existence of babies.

00:47:14.960 But we'll acknowledge through sentiment and saccharine and no sort of evidence, they will try to pretend that an orangutan is a, is a human being or a person who's not a human being, whatever that means.

00:47:28.140 That is incoherent.

00:47:30.280 That is brutal.

00:47:31.600 That is depressing.

00:47:33.080 That is isolating.

00:47:34.120 That's not the sort of politics that we want.

00:47:37.000 And the way that we're going to reclaim a coherent politics is not to bang even louder for less reasonable, frivolous identity.

00:47:45.500 Shallow identity is a basis of politics.

00:47:47.780 It's going to ultimately root our politics in the ultimate identity, the divine logic of the universe.

00:47:53.120 It will make our politics far more reasonable.

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00:49:00.660 American journalists have announced that they've entirely underestimated Donald Trump,

00:49:04.780 and everything they thought he was wrong about has in fact turned out great.

00:49:08.620 No, I'm joking.

00:49:09.460 They move from one lie to another, forgetting each one as they go, and we'll show you how it works on The Andrew Klavan Show.

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Ep. 448 - The Iron Curtain Between Left and Right

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