The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 450 - Everything You Need To Know About Impeachment

00:00:00.000 Congressional Democrats call two star witnesses to testify in the impeachment hearing.

00:00:06.100 Ambassador to Ukraine, William Taylor, and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, George Kent.

00:00:11.520 Meanwhile, Republican Jim Jordan reduced them both to a sputtering pile of mush in about 25

00:00:17.460 seconds. We will examine everything you need to know about impeachment. Then, a surprisingly

00:00:23.380 sensible take on transgenderism from a notoriously senseless source, Hillary Clinton. Hillary 0.97

00:00:29.620 Clinton. Unbelievable. We will analyze the left's gender fault lines. Finally, the mailbag. All 0.98

00:00:35.140 that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:44.700 By the way, I want you to know I'm considering titling my next best-selling blank book,

00:00:49.900 Everything You Need to Know About Impeachment, because you don't need to know anything about

00:00:53.080 impeachment because it's a complete farce, and we found out that it was a farce today. I guess

00:00:57.420 it's not quite true. It's worth knowing exactly what's happening in the impeachment hearing

00:01:03.540 just so you can see how transparently political, nakedly partisan, hacky this whole thing is. It has

00:01:11.200 no basis in the law, no basis in the Constitution, no basis in reality whatsoever. Who are the key

00:01:18.640 figures? The star witnesses that the Democrats called forward today that were supposed to sink

00:01:23.820 President Trump. Two guys, Ambassador Bill Taylor. He was a soldier. He worked as a legislative

00:01:29.480 assistant for the Democratic Senator Bill Bradley, and then he worked at the State Department under

00:01:34.320 Bush and Obama. He is key here because Ambassador Taylor, ambassador to Ukraine,

00:01:42.580 had texted the ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, and asked him,

00:01:47.760 are we now saying that security assistance and White House meeting are conditioned on the

00:01:52.920 investigations into Biden? So he's the one who texted the ambassador to the EU to say,

00:01:58.660 is there a quid pro quo more or less? Now, what's funny is we already have testimony from Sondland that

00:02:03.820 there isn't a quid pro quo and that this is all just a big misunderstanding. But anyway, that is how

00:02:09.240 Ambassador Taylor fits into this. The other guy who fits in is George Kent. George Kent is Deputy

00:02:14.600 Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, and he is a career foreign service

00:02:20.720 guy. Now, Ambassador Taylor opens this up. And if he's going to be the star witness, right? So

00:02:28.500 Ambassador Taylor should come out there and just say, here it is. I've got the smoking gun.

00:02:34.560 Here's the evidence that President Trump engaged in some corruption. And here's how I know it. And

00:02:38.840 here's what I saw and what I heard. But he can't do that because Ambassador Taylor didn't see or hear

00:02:42.660 anything. He has no firsthand information whatsoever. In fact, as he pathetically revealed

00:02:48.380 today in this testimony before the Democratic counsel, Daniel Goldman, he can offer the impeachment

00:02:54.980 inquiry absolutely nothing other than to tell them what he heard from other people.

00:03:00.680 Mr. Goldman, what I can do here for you today is tell you what I heard from people. And in this case,

00:03:09.220 it was what I heard from Ambassador Sondland. Okay. So that was a perfectly honest statement.

00:03:16.680 And at the end of that statement, I think everybody should have gone home because he said, well, look,

00:03:20.780 I'm here to testify about some rumors that I heard and a bunch of hearsay. And so I don't know why you

00:03:27.640 didn't get the people that I allegedly heard all this from, but all I can do is peddle in hearsay and

00:03:32.660 rumors. Okay, I guess we're finished here, right? But it's the best they've got. I mean, this is,

00:03:36.720 he is the star witness because he's the best that the Democrats have. It did not take very long for

00:03:42.180 the Republican, Jim Jordan, who is just terrific at ripping these guys apart in testimony to 0.62

00:03:49.520 pretty much reduce Ambassador Taylor to a pile of mealy-mouthed mush.

00:03:57.180 Let me read it one more time. Ambassador Taylor recalls that Mr. Morrison told Ambassador Taylor

00:04:00.280 that I told Mr. Morrison that I conveyed this message to Mr. Yarmouk on September 1st, 2019,

00:04:04.560 in connection with Vice President Pence's visit to Warsaw and a meeting with President Zelensky.

00:04:09.020 We got six people having four conversations in one sentence, and you just told me this is where

00:04:14.080 you got your clear understanding. Which, I mean, even though you had three opportunities with

00:04:20.140 President Zelensky for him to tell you, you know what, we're going to do these investigations to get

00:04:24.240 the aid. Didn't tell you three different times. Never makes an announcement, never tweets about it,

00:04:28.040 never does to see an interview. Ambassador, you weren't on the call, were you? You didn't listen

00:04:32.900 on President Trump's call and President Zelensky's call? I did not. You've never talked with Chief

00:04:36.160 of Staff Mulvaney? I never did. You never met the President? That's correct. He had three meetings

00:04:40.360 again with Zelensky and it didn't come up. And two of those they had never heard about as far as I

00:04:44.420 know. There was no reason for it to come up. And President Zelensky never made an announcement.

00:04:48.760 This is what I can't believe, and you're their star witness. You're their first witness.

00:04:54.180 You're the guy. You're the guy based on this, based on, I mean, I've seen, I've seen

00:04:59.240 church prayer chains that are easier to understand than this. Oh, devastating, devastating. And I

00:05:05.800 actually don't even really mean to attack William Taylor here, the ambassador. He's being dragged

00:05:11.020 before this committee. I don't think he's exactly eager to do it. He doesn't come out of this thing

00:05:15.200 looking all that great. He looks like he has nothing to say because he does have nothing to say.

00:05:19.940 And Jim Jordan gets to the heart of it. You weren't on the call. You have no firsthand knowledge

00:05:23.940 of anything. You don't know anything about the quid pro quo. And actually, you've never even met

00:05:28.180 Donald Trump in your whole life. Is that right? Yes, that's right. But you heard about it from a

00:05:32.220 guy who was at a coffee shop on the phone with another guy who read a newspaper about a third guy

00:05:36.860 that none of it really strikes anybody as the bombshell testimony that we were all waiting for

00:05:44.400 because there's nothing to offer. So Jim Jordan puts it all into stark light. And what the Democrats

00:05:51.680 are hoping for here is that you won't watch these clips. You won't listen to reports about this.

00:05:57.280 You won't read any of the testimony. You'll just hear the cloud of impeachment. And you'll just

00:06:03.900 assume that because the fancy people on TV who wear suits and neckties are telling you with a very

00:06:09.340 straight face that the president has to be removed, that you will come to agree with that as well.

00:06:13.880 That's what they're banking on. It doesn't matter as far as they're concerned if these guys have

00:06:18.180 nothing to say. It's just got to be the illusion of having something to say. And Jim Jordan is not

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00:08:44.060 the left is banking on in this impeachment stuff, gets to the heart of the matter. And then

00:08:47.960 while he's interrogating Ambassador Taylor, he finishes the job.

00:08:52.760 Ambassador Taylor recalls that Mr. Morrison told, now again, this is, I hereby swear in a firm from

00:08:57.760 Gordon Sondland. Ambassador Taylor recalls that Mr. Morrison told Ambassador Taylor that I told Mr.

00:09:02.340 Morrison and I conveyed this message to Mr. Yarmouk on September 1st, 20th. This all happens, by the

00:09:06.520 way, this all happens, by the way, in Warsaw, where Vice President Pence meets with President

00:09:12.160 Zelensky. And guess what? They didn't talk about any linkage either. Time of the gentleman's expired.

00:09:18.440 So they didn't talk about it, right? This is the issue. Even though you're, the left is making all

00:09:25.080 of these insinuations and trying to become psychics and read the motives of the president,

00:09:29.840 there is no hard evidence of certainly of any crime. There's no hard evidence of any abuse of

00:09:37.240 power. There's no hard evidence of any quid pro quo. Not only is there not evidence of an

00:09:42.320 impeachable offense, they can't even find hard evidence of maladministration, which is not

00:09:47.520 impeachable. And you can read that in the Federalist Papers, but they can't even find evidence of that.

00:09:52.260 It's all a bunch of nothing. Then again, while talking to the Democratic Council, Daniel Goldman,

00:09:58.840 Daniel Goldman, trying to get anything, trying to give some clip that the Democrats can use in this

00:10:03.700 impeachment inquiry, William Taylor admits that there's no quid pro quo.

00:10:09.660 Ambassador Sondland says to call him after you wrote that. Did you, in fact, call him?

00:10:14.960 I did.

00:10:15.900 And what did he say to you?

00:10:18.660 You said that I had, I was wrong about President Trump's intent, that there was no quid pro quo.

00:10:28.840 Uh, and, but did he say anything after that?

00:10:35.720 Well, what? Uh, um, hmm. Can you change your answer, please, Ambassador? I'm going to give you

00:10:43.360 one more opportunity, Ambassador, to just completely change your answer because it really throws them

00:10:46.760 off. So this whole reason that Taylor is here, Taylor is the guy who sends the text to Sondland

00:10:52.320 saying, are you telling me there's a quid pro quo going on here? And Sondland says, call me,

00:10:56.460 because obviously there was some confusion. And what the Democrats were hoping is that Taylor would

00:11:00.440 say, and then we found out that this dirty crook Trump was selling out the country and investigating 0.98

00:11:07.660 his political rivals in exchange for funding. And, but what does Taylor say instead? He says, 0.97

00:11:13.680 yeah, I called Sondland and Sondland told me that I was misunderstanding this and there's no quid pro

00:11:18.020 quo. And then this port, this democratic council's jaw just dropped. And he was very, very upset.

00:11:25.000 Taylor in his initial read of the situation was wrong. That's what it comes down to. And he even

00:11:32.100 admits it himself. Ambassador Taylor, uh, the gentleman asked if you could be wrong. Were you wrong

00:11:37.700 when you said you had a clear understanding that President Zelensky had to commit to an investigation

00:11:45.040 of Biden's before the aid got released and the aid got released and he didn't commit to an

00:11:49.320 investigation? Mr. I was not wrong about what I told you, which is what I heard. That's all I've

00:11:55.520 said. I've told you what I heard. And that's the point. What you heard did not happen. It didn't

00:12:01.880 happen. It did not happen. This is the key. You see, at first he starts to try to defend himself

00:12:07.820 and say, no, I wasn't wrong. But then Jim Jordan comes out and he shows that he was wrong. So the,

00:12:16.280 the question here is, did Trump engage in the quid pro quo? Were you wrong when you said,

00:12:20.100 said, well, I wasn't wrong in relaying what I heard second or third hand. And Jordan says,

00:12:25.340 but that's not the point. The point is, were you wrong about the thing itself? And we actually know

00:12:30.340 that he was wrong about the thing itself. Why do we know that he was wrong about the quid pro quo

00:12:34.440 itself? Because it didn't happen. The, what the quid pro quo was supposed to be that Donald Trump is

00:12:39.960 going to withhold military aid to Ukraine until the Ukraine investigates Joe and Hunter Biden.

00:12:46.680 But Ukraine has not investigated Joe and Hunter Biden and Trump did release the military aid.

00:12:52.500 So there was no quid pro quo by definition. He was wrong. And so he, Taylor doesn't want to just

00:12:59.740 totally come out and admit that he was wrong, even though he's nailed here. So he starts to

00:13:03.320 change the narrative, tries to change what they're talking about in the first place.

00:13:06.940 Jim Jordan doesn't let him do it. You use clear language, clear understanding

00:13:10.700 and commitment. And those two things didn't happen. So you had to be wrong.

00:13:15.840 Ms. Jordan, the other thing that went on when that, when that assistant was on hold is we shook

00:13:23.240 the confidence of a, of a close partner in our reliability. And that, that's not what this

00:13:30.940 proceeding is about. Ambassador Taylor has expired. That's not what this whole thing started on.

00:13:35.000 The time of the gentleman has expired. Ambassador Taylor, did you want to finish your answer?

00:13:39.120 No, that's good. Mr. Chairman. Yeah. You don't want to finish his answer. And that omission

00:13:44.880 is an admission that the guy got it wrong because when he, when Jordan nails him, then Taylor all of

00:13:52.300 a sudden says, well, what was happening was we were risking our reliance with Ukraine and we were

00:13:58.020 making our ally feel a little bit uneasy and say, hold on, wait a second. What are you talking about?

00:14:02.700 We're here today to determine if an impeachable offense was committed by withholding aid to Ukraine.

00:14:08.840 Ukraine, if there was a quid pro quo even, and you're just saying that there's no evidence of

00:14:14.360 that at all. So now you want to turn the tables and say, this is about if we're making Ukraine feel

00:14:20.140 uneasy. Not only is that not an impeachable offense, not only is that not, there's nothing wrong with

00:14:26.840 that, but that's not what anybody here suggests that they're talking about. You know that the left

00:14:32.220 is on the ropes here because they're constantly trying to move the goalposts. And fortunately we got

00:14:37.120 some pretty good guys up there on the Hill who are not allowing that to happen. How about George

00:14:41.580 Kent? George Kent, the deputy assistant secretary of state. Kent actually admits while he's speaking

00:14:48.680 to the Republican representative Stefanik, that he, that the investigation rather that is being

00:14:56.560 requested here into corruption in Ukraine and the 2016 election and even the Bidens is perfectly

00:15:02.280 legitimate. So for the millions of Americans viewing the first investigation against the

00:15:08.680 owner of Burisma was under president Obama's administration. That's correct. And broadly,

00:15:13.080 this is very important. You testified in your deposition that when the state department evaluates

00:15:18.420 foreign assistance, it is appropriate for them to look at levels of corruption in countries.

00:15:23.740 That's correct. And lastly, you also testified that, and this is your quote, issues of corruption have

00:15:30.020 been part of high level dialogue between us leaders and Ukrainian leaders, regardless of who is the

00:15:35.820 us leader and who is the Ukrainian leader. And that is a normal issue of diplomatic discussion at the

00:15:41.160 highest level. End quote. Is that correct? That's correct. End quote. Devastating because even if Trump

00:15:47.080 did the worst possible things that Democrats can imagine that he did, there's nothing unusual about

00:15:53.620 that. There's nothing uncommon about that. There's a lot of precedent for it. It's a part of statecraft

00:15:57.420 and it's certainly not impeachable. We'll get to what this means. Well, we'll get to Trump's

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00:18:33.920 mentioned this yesterday, but I want to just touch on it a little bit more today. This whistleblower is,

00:18:38.040 according to Real Clear Investigations, a young CIA analyst in a 30, 31. He's a Yale grad. He actually

00:18:46.440 left Yale right when I got there, so I didn't know him, but I knew a lot of people who know him.

00:18:50.880 And he worked for Joe Biden. He worked on Ukraine issues for Joe Biden. He worked for John Brennan.

00:18:57.320 He's the deep state. I mean, he's what you would call the deep state. And he filed this complaint,

00:19:03.120 which was an absurd complaint, largely just based on public statements the president had made and

00:19:08.060 based on rumors that he had heard, just like we heard from Ambassador Taylor. And this, he worked

00:19:13.360 with Adam Schiff's office to coordinate this whole, this whole hoax, this whole joke, this whole circus.

00:19:20.960 And now he's trying to remain anonymous. And Schiff is lying and pretending that he doesn't know the

00:19:26.600 identity of the whistleblower. The whistleblower has to be called to testify. I can't wait for this guy

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00:19:47.220 you know, went through Yale, went right into the federal bureaucracy and think that they have the

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00:20:03.820 to outlast anybody who's elected. And it's so unjust and it's so un-American. That guy's got to

00:20:09.480 testify. A little bit of justice though is that there's now a whistleblower on the whistleblower.

00:20:13.820 According to Fox News' Greg Rhee, a second whistleblower has filed a complaint with the

00:20:19.280 intelligence community inspector general because the original whistleblower, Eric Charamella,

00:20:25.920 allegedly, quote, may have violated federal law by indirectly soliciting more than a quarter million

00:20:31.480 dollars from mostly anonymous sources via a GoFundMe page. So he may have violated federal

00:20:37.560 law by cashing in on the whistleblowing. The whole thing gets tawdrier day after day. First,

00:20:44.020 we were told by the mainstream media, of course, that this was a totally honorable, wonderful whistleblower.

00:20:48.600 Then we find out, wait a second, he's a career bureaucrat. Wait a second, he worked for Joe

00:20:54.340 Biden. Wait a second, he worked for Joe Biden on Ukraine policy. Wait a second, he worked for all

00:20:58.880 these guys who have been trying to take out Trump and who are political rivals to Trump. And the

00:21:02.340 intelligence community inspector general said there were three clear pieces of evidence that he would

00:21:07.840 have an arguable political opposition to the president, that he would have an arguable political

00:21:13.440 motivation. Just total BS, like the whole thing. President Trump in his characteristically subtle,

00:21:19.700 reticent, nuanced way responded to the impeachment inquiry and he cut right to the heart of the

00:21:26.220 matter. What's going on now is the single greatest scam in the history of American politics. The

00:21:33.420 Democrats want to take away your guns. They want to take away your healthcare. They want to take away

00:21:38.980 your vote. They want to take away your freedom. They want to take away your judges. They want to

00:21:43.620 take away everything. We can never let this happen. We're fighting to drain the swamp. And that's exactly

00:21:49.480 what I'm doing. And you see why we have to do it because our country is at stake like never before.

00:21:56.580 It's all very simple. They're trying to stop me because I'm fighting for you and I'll never let that

00:22:03.360 happen. Yeah, pretty much sums it up. I, I can't find a single flaw in what the president just said.

00:22:11.380 That's what it's about. And I, I would, I would not believe it, you know, if it were, if he were

00:22:18.560 making some claims or covering something up or if he were really, but he's not, he's just saying it

00:22:24.440 very basically how it is. The Democrats are trying to overturn that election and stop him because they

00:22:29.100 oppose him politically. And they're trying to use impeachment as a tool. They've been trying to do

00:22:33.360 it since before he took office. They're trying to use impeachment as the way to do that. They're

00:22:36.600 getting a lot of help from the mainstream media. There's an incredible new analysis out, which shows

00:22:41.560 just what we are up against. And it's just a bad idea. I know even some conservatives think that we

00:22:47.240 ought to use impeachment more than we do. I don't think that at all. I think impeachment should almost

00:22:51.880 never be used historically. It, it has rarely been used never for something as frivolous as this.

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00:24:44.400 C-O-V-F-E-F-E. So Trump says this is all total BS, cuts to the heart of the matter.

00:24:52.920 How is the mainstream media covering it? Well, here's how CBS News is covering it.

00:24:57.000 And there we have it. Day one of the first public hearings in terms of impeachment inquiry

00:25:05.900 against President Donald Trump are now in the history books. Some devastating testimony today

00:25:12.520 from two of America's most respected diplomats who have served both Republican and Democratic

00:25:19.340 presidents. Yeah, it was devastating testimony for the Democrats. It was devastating testimony

00:25:24.900 for them. But this is what they do. I told you at the top of the show, what they're going to do is

00:25:29.560 regardless of how bad the impeachment inquiry goes and the proceedings go for Democrats and you heard

00:25:36.200 it, you heard it with your own two ears. It's going very badly for them, but it doesn't matter

00:25:40.460 because the fancy people in the suits and ties will go on television and tell you it's all really,

00:25:44.920 really bad for, for the president and they'll use it to overturn the election. And at the very least,

00:25:49.680 because they're not going to be able to throw him out of office, they're going to use it to,

00:25:52.660 to hamper him in 2020. There's a Newsbusters analysis, Media Research Center, which does

00:25:58.200 newsbusters.com. Media Research Center did a study of the, the network news. We're talking about ABC,

00:26:03.420 CBS, and NBC evening noon cat newscasts since 2017. What they found is that the news shows cover Trump

00:26:11.980 with negative spin 96% of the time. How do they calculate that? The way they do it is they take

00:26:18.400 all explicitly evaluative statements about Trump or his administration from reporters or anchors or

00:26:24.560 nonpartisan sources. So we're not talking about when the talking heads come on, the pundits and the

00:26:28.880 commentators, and they, they have their own perspective. We're talking about the people who are

00:26:32.200 supposed to be objective and they then take out the partisan sources. They take out all the neutral

00:26:37.380 statements and they just look at evaluative statements. 96% of them are negative and it's

00:26:43.800 all about impeachment. They're dedicating more than three fifths of all administration news coverage

00:26:48.780 on the networks to this impeachment nonsense. They are also using secret sources because if they used

00:26:56.580 real sources, they would be shown to be liars. So out of 172 news reports, the

00:27:01.100 strong majority of them, 59%, 59% relied on unnamed sources for their so-called facts about impeachment.

00:27:10.380 It's BS. It's totally bogus. And they are counting on this vagueness on people's eyes glossing over

00:27:16.680 to put it past the American people. Impeachment is a terrible idea. We've used it now four times,

00:27:23.520 threatened it. Andrew Johnson, uh, uh, Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump.

00:27:31.660 Nobody has ever been removed from office as president through impeachment. Johnson was

00:27:36.880 acquitted. Nixon resigned before he could be impeached. Bill Clinton was acquitted. Now we get

00:27:43.160 to Donald Trump. I think it's a very good thing in this country that no president has ever been

00:27:47.140 removed explicitly through the process of impeachment. It's what, what that does, what,

00:27:53.660 what the impeachment process does is reduces the role of the executive, which is a co-equal branch

00:27:59.940 of government. And it makes it subservient to the legislature. Kind of like what we have in

00:28:04.260 the United Kingdom, a parliamentary style government. The founding fathers of this country

00:28:08.180 in their wisdom did not give us that sort of government because that sort of government

00:28:12.560 is chaotic and less representative of the American people and far more radical and far 0.67

00:28:18.460 less conservative. We need those checks and balances and you should not be able to throw

00:28:23.100 out a president just because you dislike him politically. Even if there's evidence of some

00:28:28.280 sort of crime, there's a very high threshold. You're not going to ever, uh, impeach the president

00:28:33.860 over a parking ticket or for jaywalking. It's got to really be a political crime. It's got to

00:28:39.080 be a high crime and misdemeanor. But, but what we're seeing here, you heard the clips yourselves.

00:28:45.340 What we're seeing here is Democrats trying to overturn this presidency on nothing. That must be

00:28:52.460 resisted. That's, by the way, the only reason you have to pay attention to this. It's not because

00:28:59.720 it, it is particularly illuminating. It's not. It's a bunch of hacks, hack Democrats trying to throw

00:29:05.140 out the president, but you've got to pay attention because you are going to be lied to by the mainstream

00:29:08.560 media about this. And it could be really damaging and set a really dangerous precedent. Shockingly,

00:29:12.780 this is unbelievable. Hillary Clinton said something almost sensible. Hillary Clinton was asked on her,

00:29:18.120 on her pre-campaign tour. I'm sorry. I mean her book tour with her daughter, uh, about whether women 0.69

00:29:23.760 should have concerns about transgenderism. And she said, yes, there is a legitimate concern. 1.00

00:29:31.420 There's a legitimate concern that women should have. This is all relatively new. People are still 1.00

00:29:35.640 trying to find the language for it, trying to sort it out. I think in the right mindset,

00:29:39.160 this can be understood, but it's going to take some time. Fair point. She says there is a legitimate

00:29:45.820 concern about women's lived experience and the importance of recognizing that, and also the

00:29:50.080 importance of recognizing self-identification. So she's saying, look guys, maybe pump the brakes,

00:29:54.320 maybe slow down a little bit here. That is very important because in the very shallow way that this is

00:30:01.380 being discussed, what the radical leftists want you to believe is that the people who accept the

00:30:07.880 unbelievably radical, incoherent, and brand new idea that a man can become a woman just because,

00:30:14.060 just by thinking so, that those are the good guys. Those guys are fighting for freedom and

00:30:19.060 equality and justice. And that anybody else who believes otherwise, including people like Hillary

00:30:24.840 Clinton, are on the wrong side of history. They're unjust. They're keeping freedom away from people. 0.73

00:30:31.380 That, that is absurd. We need to pump the brakes on that. We need some checks and balances in that

00:30:36.160 sort of discourse. And it brings me, right before we get to the mailbag, it brings me to

00:30:39.540 one of the, one of the wildest things I saw on Twitter all day. Worth mentioning. It was a hashtag

00:30:45.300 which said, hashtag thanks birth control. I'm sure there are a lot of young men out there who have

00:30:51.060 tweeted that hashtag thanks birth control, but this was actually women who were tweeting thanks birth 0.97

00:30:55.340 control. And here's what they said. One woman, we're going to, we're going to block out their names 1.00

00:30:59.020 because I don't want to embarrass them. I just want to point out how absurd their ideas are.

00:31:03.440 One woman tweeted out, I love the freedom to plan if or when to get pregnant. Right now,

00:31:09.000 my choice is fur babies, meaning like dogs and cats. Real babies, maybe later. Thanks birth control.

00:31:17.400 Another, another woman, different woman. Thanks birth control for leaving plenty of room in my life for 1.00

00:31:22.600 all the fur babies. Cause honestly, that's all I'm ready for. And that's okay. The fur babies. We'll

00:31:29.220 get back to the fur babies in a second. Another woman tweets out, I love my IUD form of birth control 1.00

00:31:34.380 more and more each and every day. I'm grateful that birth control has given me the gift of freedom.

00:31:40.480 And then Hillary Clinton jumped on it. She said reproductive freedom requires access to affordable 1.00

00:31:45.200 contraception and it's under attack. If birth control has changed your life, take a moment today to

00:31:49.420 say it out loud. Hashtag thanks birth control. The ladies protest too much, me thinks. 1.00

00:31:58.000 I'm, I don't mean to make fun of these women. I think there's a lot of loneliness and anxiety and 0.98

00:32:02.660 stress and, and incoherence in the culture right now. And it's convinced people that they can't have

00:32:09.080 children, that they shouldn't have children. To say nothing of the other effects of birth control,

00:32:13.380 it's convinced them that what's empowering to women is not to settle down and 1.00

00:32:18.580 make a commitment with a man who's making a commitment to her and have a life together of

00:32:22.540 mutual respect and growing love day after day. But what's empowering to women is to sleep with a 1.00

00:32:26.700 hundred men and basically be used and use other people and then slave away in some corporate office

00:32:34.520 in New York. And that's the only way that you're going to have a fulfilling life. And that's obviously

00:32:39.320 a lie. I mean, perhaps you can, people find gratification in all sorts of different ways,

00:32:44.900 but on the whole, the data seem to suggest that that, those kinds of ideas have made women 1.00

00:32:50.120 miserable, not just relative to men, but in absolute terms as well since the sexual revolution,

00:32:56.200 since birth control started. But I want to point out this, this perverse idea of freedom.

00:33:01.300 What the second fur baby lady said was, thank you birth control for leaving playroom in my life for 1.00

00:33:06.100 my fur babies. Not because that's all I want or desire, but because honestly, that's all I'm ready for.

00:33:14.900 And then you see the other people, Hillary and that other woman talking about how

00:33:18.260 birth control is giving you freedom. It's not giving you freedom. If you are a grownup and you're

00:33:23.840 not ready to have a baby and the only thing you can really imagine taking care of is a cat,

00:33:29.480 then you're not free. What this requires is a deeper understanding of what freedom is.

00:33:36.040 Freedom requires discipline. Freedom requires that your will is not a slave to your appetites.

00:33:43.440 A wise man once said that he who sins is a slave to sin. Which savior of all mankind said that?

00:33:53.080 I forget. It was a guy a long time ago said, he who sins is a slave to sin. The lie that we are told

00:33:59.180 is that when we give into our appetites, that is our freedom. The freedom to pursue our desires and

00:34:05.260 appetites to no end. To eat a lot of food and do a lot of drugs and sleep around a lot and drink too

00:34:09.680 much and whatever. But that actually is not freedom because then those appetites dominate

00:34:15.260 even our will. They dominate even our own maturity. And we're not capable of very basic things that

00:34:21.300 everybody was capable of until recently because we have become slaves to those desires. Slave to,

00:34:27.360 and this is true obviously throughout the sexual revolution, but this is true in so much of our

00:34:32.660 culture, which has given into a cultural decadence. And we, we think of that as a way of, uh, of

00:34:39.160 liberating ourselves. And we find that when we've thrown off the yoke, the chains of traditional

00:34:45.940 morality, we have ensnared ourselves in a far, far more difficult and devastating slavery. 1.00

00:34:52.180 Just a little observation about a very, very stupid hashtag. Let's get to the mailbag first. 1.00

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00:35:28.640 You know, it occurs to me that, that, that sort of freedom idea applies to impeachment as well, because

00:35:34.920 the, the appetite, especially of the left is to throw president Trump out of office and not wait

00:35:40.620 for the next presidential election and not win it fair and square, just throw them out and, and force

00:35:45.380 that desire on the country. They think this is liberating. It's not liberating because what you

00:35:49.740 have to do in the process is undermine those great structures of government, the separation of powers,

00:35:54.580 the contemplative nature of our Republic and the reliability of our elections. You've got to throw

00:36:00.020 all of that away in the name of freedom. What you're doing is taking away the, the basic political

00:36:06.100 freedoms that we've all enjoyed and that have allowed us to thrive. It's a, it's a real trick.

00:36:10.980 I mean, it's a trick that the devil plays, which is why Jesus talks about this in the gospels,

00:36:15.980 because we, we think that we are pursuing our own freedom that way. And actually it's being stolen

00:36:20.860 away from us. First question from Trent. Hi, Michael. Like you, I took a friend for some

00:36:26.400 money at the Trump victory in 2016. He gave me three to two odds. My question is, would it be

00:36:32.100 wise to double down? I'm curious if Ben would be willing to place a second wager with you again.

00:36:36.400 Thanks. Three to two is pretty good. I got four to one from my pal, Mr. Ben Shapiro, and I've got

00:36:41.140 the check right in the back on my set there. Uh, took him for 400 bucks in 2016 because president

00:36:47.120 Trump won. And I think you should absolutely double down now and you don't even need to

00:36:51.780 be given odds. You could take even odds on this because a president Trump, if the election were

00:36:56.820 held today, would win 57 States. Anything could happen of course. And the Democrats haven't picked

00:37:01.600 a candidate yet that the field is looking very weak. That's why Bloomberg and Hillary are looking

00:37:05.560 at trying to jump back in. As of right now, I would say Trump's reelection chances look pretty

00:37:11.000 good, but next November is a long, long way away. Next question from Leah. I just recently watched

00:37:18.100 divine plan, a documentary about the Alliance of Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan against

00:37:23.220 communism. It basically showed both these men believed in God and his divine plan to defeat

00:37:28.900 that evil. I was wondering what your thoughts were on this idea. Thanks. Yes. Ronald Reagan's

00:37:34.820 faith is something that has not been talked or written about very much. He wrote a really beautiful

00:37:38.620 poem called life when he was only 17 years old about providence more or less and about

00:37:44.000 death, judgment, heaven, and hell. It's a really a profound poem and it shows a probing mind,

00:37:50.200 even at that young age, after he was shot, he said very clearly wrote in his diary that he knew he had

00:37:55.200 to dedicate his life to God. He, he was one of the, the most faithful men in public life that we've seen

00:38:01.740 in, in, in recent years. What people get wrong when they look back, especially conservatives,

00:38:08.180 when they look back at the fall of the Berlin wall in the Soviet union is they think of defeating

00:38:13.880 communism in primarily economic terms, but it wasn't primarily about economics. It was primarily

00:38:20.780 spiritual. Winston Churchill, who Ronald Reagan quoted in his time for choosing speech against communism

00:38:26.180 said, when great forces are on the move in the world, we learn that we're spirits,

00:38:30.240 not animals. Something's going on in time and space and beyond time and space, which whether we like it

00:38:35.540 or not spells duty. That's what it was about. And when you look at the evil empire, as Ronald Reagan

00:38:41.900 called the Soviet union, and, and you look at it, it's indictment for its atheism, it's anti-Christianity. 0.66

00:38:48.820 The economic issues flow naturally from that, the protection of property rights and the natural law.

00:38:55.100 But if you just try to make it an economic issue, it just simply doesn't make as much sense.

00:39:00.240 Next question from Johnny. My question springs from America's greatest quid pro quo,

00:39:05.480 the democratic delivery of American taxpayer dollars to illegal aliens. Do you think John 0.94

00:39:10.620 Roberts will squeal like a pig and side on the Mexican government's request to continue DACA as 0.77

00:39:16.400 an American policy, or will he side with the law? Will the Supreme, this is a very colorful way to ask 0.95

00:39:22.080 this, but the question is, will the Supreme court overturn DACA? I think there's a very good chance

00:39:26.380 that they will. President Trump seems to think there's a good chance that they will. So he's

00:39:31.140 sending out tweets basically saying that he won't just deport everybody en masse if they do overturn

00:39:36.040 DACA. He's trying to encourage them to do that. And he's smart to do it because the court has become 0.63

00:39:39.980 incredibly politicized in recent years, particularly by John Roberts, actually, who was a Republican

00:39:45.940 appointee, even though he doesn't, doesn't behave like that when push comes to shove. The Supreme court

00:39:51.660 watches the news and they watch the election returns. And so I think there's a good chance.

00:39:55.700 I'm cautiously hopeful from Alex. My question is, if self-marriage is now a thing, then what do you

00:40:02.960 think self-divorce will look like? People now are marrying themselves. So what'll it look like when they

00:40:08.580 get divorced? Very, very ugly. That's what I think it will look like. No, I think actually it's a sort of 0.59

00:40:16.820 profound question put in funny terms because I think this obsession with the self inevitably

00:40:21.720 ends in divorce. Self-marriage inevitably ends in divorce because a man wrapped up in himself 0.84

00:40:27.380 makes a small package indeed and we are not sufficient unto ourselves and we will come to

00:40:31.760 hate ourselves if we think that we are just the be-all and end-all. We have to ground our identity not

00:40:37.180 just in our paltry little selves, but in God himself, in the ultimate good, in the I am that I am.

00:40:43.800 And that's the essence of being. It's the only place where you will find satisfaction in your

00:40:47.520 identity. From Kate, given the additional temptations and many fans infatuation with 0.96

00:40:54.160 celebrities, do you think there is an inherent risk in a married person being in the entertainment

00:40:58.180 spotlight? Did you and sweet little Elisa have any talks about this? Thanks. Well, I guess if you're

00:41:04.220 putting me on the Z list or, you know, bottom of the list of celebrities, then where are all my

00:41:11.500 groupies? That's what I want to know. Bring on the groupies, man. All I ever get are these like

00:41:16.380 really nicely dressed young Republican types who ask very articulate questions and go to church.

00:41:21.000 So come on, this is not, not what I was promised. I do think that there is this intrinsic risk of any

00:41:28.040 sort of celebrity. And I don't just mean in entertainment or politics or anything like that.

00:41:31.940 Everybody now on social media can become his own celebrity if he tries hard enough. And it's why you

00:41:38.020 really need to know who you are and what you think before it happened. I feel really bad for child

00:41:44.640 stars and I feel really bad for young people. And even in their early twenties who become minor

00:41:49.420 celebrities before they know what they think and who they are and when they're still immature,

00:41:53.400 it does not end very well. And you can easily give into temptations if you don't have a very good

00:41:58.260 reason not to. So I think it's a, it's a major, major temptation and it's, it's simply not,

00:42:06.520 unfortunately many people who are attracted to the limelight are a little unstable as you may

00:42:11.300 have noticed. And so, uh, there's, that's always going to be that way. But if you do not know who

00:42:19.060 you are, if you are not grounded in some kind of transcendent moral order, I would recommend you

00:42:23.940 refrain from getting too much of that spotlight. From Benjamin, who's a better Catholic, you or Matt

00:42:28.480 Walsh? This has been a heated debate among these skinny boys and Matt Pack followers. Thanks.

00:42:32.580 You know, Catholicism is so defined in many ways by the guilt, the Catholic guilt that people feel. So

00:42:40.780 I guess the best Catholic would be the one who feels like the worst. And so in all of my humility, 1.00

00:42:46.780 I would have to say that I am a far, far worse Catholic than Matt Walsh. See if you can figure

00:42:52.320 that one out. From Todd. Hey, Brookhouse Knowles, what are you still doing in California if Florida

00:42:57.400 is good enough for President Covfefe? Why isn't it good enough for you? Would love to see you out here.

00:43:02.160 Thanks. I love Florida. It's a super great place. But when I leave California, I'm going to the

00:43:07.600 greatest city in America, Mobile, Alabama. It's pretty close, right, right, right nearby. Maybe

00:43:12.400 I'll come, come by and visit. From Raffi. You recently rejected the idea of the ideal person 1.00

00:43:17.540 as being alone and one with nature. Isn't this a fundamental rejection of John Locke and other

00:43:23.660 enlightenment political theory? John Locke is invoked by the left libertarians and many on the right as

00:43:27.780 well. Shouldn't you be more explicit about your rejection of Locke and what your political

00:43:31.880 theory is based on? I thought I had been very explicit. I am certainly not a Lockean. I mean,

00:43:37.380 there's, to reduce these men to just one idea or one book is kind of silly and there are many

00:43:44.020 contributions that John Locke made which I like very much, but I do not ground my political

00:43:49.080 philosophy in the philosophy of John Locke. If I had to pick one sort of modern political philosopher

00:43:54.100 to point to that explains my ideas, I would point to Edmund Burke, who is the founder of what would

00:43:59.940 be considered conservative political philosophy in the modern era. And Edmund Burke said that John

00:44:05.220 Locke's second treatise of government is one of the worst books that was ever written. John Locke,

00:44:10.760 the reason that I, I reject his sort of description of the origins of humanity is because they're simply

00:44:16.140 not true. They have no basis in reality. And we could go on and talk about that for a very long time,

00:44:22.720 but primarily what I find insufficient about that sort of ideology, which is, which is liberalism or

00:44:29.400 classical liberalism is that it's so, so overly focused on contracts and consent and these kinds

00:44:39.620 of clinical exchanges between people that they don't explain really how things work. I mean, I know that

00:44:44.620 these days a lot of people like to use the term classical liberal as a synonym for conservative,

00:44:49.560 but I certainly don't do that. I wouldn't call myself a liberal or a classical liberal. I'm a

00:44:53.940 conservative to describe my politics. And a big distinction here would be John, John Locke and

00:45:00.660 his followers looking at, at politics primarily through a lens of rights. Whereas I look at politics

00:45:08.120 like Edmund Burke would and like conservatives tend to primarily through the lens of duty and bonds of

00:45:14.180 affection and bonds of loyalty and love. Uh, those are wildly divergent views. And I would encourage

00:45:21.420 people who I've, I, you know, when I was, when I was a young man, I flirted with classical liberalism,

00:45:25.940 but I would, I would encourage people to look beyond, you know, just the sort of two or three

00:45:31.900 writers from the, the enlightenment and look for more, more profound depths of political philosophy.

00:45:38.680 From Brian, what do you think of the French revolution? And would you like to see France

00:45:42.360 returned to being a constitutional monarchy a la the Bourbon restoration? Funny, we were just talking

00:45:47.180 about Edmund Burke. I think pretty much what Edmund Burke thought about the French revolution,

00:45:51.340 which is that it's one of the worst events in the history of the world and, and, and gave us so many

00:45:56.020 of the horrors that we see in modernity today. Now, is that going to be undone by, uh, reinstating some

00:46:03.320 kind of monarch? I'm not totally convinced of that. I think France might be kind of far gone and

00:46:10.160 attempts to kind of reclaim the glories of the past, like in England, for instance,

00:46:14.820 have not worked out very well. You know, the tradition doesn't tell us that we can just go

00:46:18.540 back and pick one moment in history and return to that without consequence. Tradition is an

00:46:23.000 unbroken sort of thing. And so we're going to have to, to pull the best of what we can

00:46:28.180 from our own tradition, from ourselves to try to correct this, this sort of rotten modernity that's

00:46:34.420 given us a whole lot of money and, and wrecked us in many ways spiritually. Last question from

00:46:38.940 Joseph. Hello, Michael. I was an atheist for a long time. Now I would like to reconnect with God.

00:46:43.100 I was very interested in Catholicism. I am very interested in Catholicism. And I was wondering,

00:46:47.920 since you're a Catholic, if you could make an argument for Catholicism over Protestantism.

00:46:51.980 Thank you. Sure. I would be happy to. You've probably heard many of the other arguments about

00:46:57.940 the historicity of the institution of the Catholic church and of the unbroken line of succession

00:47:04.220 from Peter through all the popes. And you've probably heard arguments over many of the

00:47:10.400 objections that our Protestant friends make. So I'm really not going to focus on that. And I'd like 0.98

00:47:14.780 to focus on an argument that really convinced me because I came back from atheism through many

00:47:20.400 Protestant philosophers. I really bear no ill will toward Protestant philosophers and people who are,

00:47:26.640 who are exploring those ideas. However, I did land on Catholicism. And I think a lot of it comes 0.93

00:47:33.460 to the nature of symbol. So one big difference between Protestants and Catholics is Catholics 0.85

00:47:40.180 believe that the host, the communion wafer, the Eucharist, is the literal body and blood of Christ.

00:47:47.200 And Protestants, I'm painting with broad brush, but generally speaking, don't believe that. They 1.00

00:47:52.320 believe that it's just a symbol. And of course, the Eucharist is a symbol. But what is a symbol? I mean,

00:47:59.800 what is the nature of symbol when we're talking about Christ? The incarnation is a symbol. The

00:48:05.160 incarnate Christ, when the second person of the Trinity takes on flesh and blood, that is a symbol,

00:48:10.660 but he is still the divine logic of the universe. He's fully man and fully God. When we use the word

00:48:16.960 literal as, say, the opposite of symbol, what do we mean? Literal refers to letters. And what are

00:48:22.180 letters? Letters are symbols. What I'm saying is that there is a relationship here between the symbol

00:48:27.560 and the symbolized, the symbol, you know, what, you know, what we're talking about, the word, for

00:48:33.380 instance, and the symbolized, that which the word signifies. And that relationship in Christ, in the

00:48:40.400 church, becomes united. And mankind needs that regular connection between the physical world

00:48:48.100 and the metaphysical world, between the world of symbols and the world of the symbolized. He needs

00:48:53.660 that regularly, which we get in the sacraments and we get most clearly in the blessed sacrament of the

00:48:59.120 Eucharist. It is that combination of not just abstracting and rationalizing everything away from

00:49:04.340 what it means, but uniting it together in the real person of Christ, whose flesh is true food and whose

00:49:10.540 blood is true drink. That is, I think, for people who are atheists and who are exploring religion,

00:49:17.360 that is a concept that I suspect you would find quite interesting. That's a concept that I think

00:49:23.260 you might find illuminating. And for people who are on faith journeys, wherever you are on that faith

00:49:28.440 journey, I think that is a real beauty and a beauty that will lead you to a greater understanding of

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The Michael Knowles Show - November 14, 2019

Ep. 450 - Everything You Need To Know About Impeachment

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