The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 458 - All Human Conflict Is Religious

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00:00:37.880 In England, a Muslim terrorist with prior terrorism convictions goes on a rampage at London Bridge,

00:00:44.520 raising a number of questions including why he was freed from prison in the first place.

00:00:49.040 In Sweden, child climate activist Greta Thunberg teams up with two adult leftist activists

00:00:54.900 to publish an article admitting that environmentalism isn't really about the environment.

00:01:00.640 And back home in the good old U.S. of A, Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders says that

00:01:06.100 Christianity is un-American. 0.99

00:01:08.200 We examine what's really going on, what all three have in common.

00:01:11.700 At bottom, all human conflict is religious. 0.97

00:01:15.800 Then, Joe Biden bites his wife's finger at a campaign stop in Iowa on the No Malarkey Tour.

00:01:22.340 Mayor Pete says illegal immigrants subsidize America.

00:01:28.260 And German Chancellor Angela Merkel says we must get rid of free speech in order to be free.

00:01:35.220 All that and more.

00:01:36.040 I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:37.800 So much to get to today and there will be no malarkey on this show.

00:01:49.340 This will be a completely malarkey-free show.

00:01:54.060 There's a lot happening in the news and it's all on this central theme.

00:01:58.060 It's a theme that Cardinal Manning, one of the great writers of the 19th century,

00:02:02.700 a great philosopher, Catholic cardinal, he pointed out that at bottom, all human conflict

00:02:10.360 is ultimately theological.

00:02:13.320 All human conflict is religious. 0.99

00:02:15.660 Even when we don't think it's religious, even when it looks like it's just about this

00:02:19.120 political issue or that political issue or this taste or that taste or this desire or

00:02:22.880 that desire, ultimately what it all boils down to are differences in religion.

00:02:28.060 Just yesterday, at least 14 Christians were murdered in the African country of Burkina Faso.

00:02:35.860 That was when suspected Islamic militants attacked a church on the first Sunday of Advent.

00:02:42.060 Very likely you haven't heard of that story.

00:02:44.300 I mean, it's sort of percolating a little bit now, but it's not even getting a ton of play.

00:02:47.560 This was a major attack.

00:02:49.220 We don't know exactly who the militants were.

00:02:51.100 I don't think it was radical Methodists.

00:02:52.800 It would appear to be, there's a lot of jihad in that area. 0.97

00:02:55.600 It would appear to be Islamic terrorists attacking Christians.

00:02:59.100 Not a ton of play. 0.97

00:03:00.660 Just a couple days earlier on London Bridge, a Muslim terrorist went on a rampage.

00:03:05.340 This was on Friday.

00:03:06.380 He killed two.

00:03:07.680 He wounded three.

00:03:09.340 And he did it using a knife and a fake suicide vest.

00:03:12.940 It wasn't a real suicide vest.

00:03:14.600 He just said, I've got a suicide vest on so that nobody would walk up to him because then

00:03:17.980 he would blow himself up.

00:03:20.440 This guy was eventually beaten back by Londoners.

00:03:23.380 There was one Londoner with a fire extinguisher.

00:03:26.300 One Londoner used a five foot long narwhal tusk to attack him and pin the guy down.

00:03:32.120 So it was a pretty dramatic scene.

00:03:35.180 Ironically, actually maybe not ironically, this attack took place at a prison rehabilitation

00:03:42.340 conference.

00:03:44.340 And the perpetrator, the terrorist here, was part of the program.

00:03:48.180 He was considered a success story for this terrorist rehabilitation, de-radicalization

00:03:54.620 program.

00:03:55.560 They bring him to this conference to show how wonderful this lenient prison system is. 0.87

00:04:01.020 And then he goes on a rampage and kills people.

00:04:03.820 Also ironic, or maybe not, the first confirmed dead was one of the organizers of this conference

00:04:11.120 and an activist for leniency on criminals and terrorists.

00:04:14.920 The other person who was killed, same thing, was one of the activists to go lenient on

00:04:20.280 these terrorists.

00:04:21.220 The killer, the terrorist, was Usman Khan. 0.99

00:04:23.980 He's been a terrorist his whole life.

00:04:26.320 He was a devotee of Anwar al-Awlaki, who was the spiritual advisor, I suppose, of Al-Qaeda, 0.88

00:04:33.340 major Islamist figure.

00:04:35.240 This guy, Usman Khan, had his home raided by counterterrorism police in 2008.

00:04:40.160 He got off that time in 2010.

00:04:43.560 He was arrested for planning to bomb the London Stock Exchange.

00:04:47.240 They found the map of the plans at this guy's house.

00:04:50.880 He was given an indeterminate sentence.

00:04:53.060 So they said, we're going to just put you away until you're no longer a threat to the

00:04:56.140 public.

00:04:56.820 That included a minimum of eight years.

00:04:59.500 This sentence was then changed to 16 years.

00:05:03.480 But in London, for these sentences, I guess you get off.

00:05:06.040 You can get off and very likely do after having served only half your time.

00:05:10.880 So this was eight years.

00:05:11.840 This was the minimum he could have been sentenced for.

00:05:14.260 What should have happened? 0.96

00:05:16.200 What should have happened is the guy should have been executed. 1.00

00:05:20.960 Terrorists should be executed. 1.00

00:05:24.120 Period. 1.00

00:05:24.860 Simple as that.

00:05:26.020 If you are going to not only betray your country or your adopted country, but target civilians 0.99

00:05:32.440 for political purposes and attempt to kill them or succeed at killing them, you should 1.00

00:05:37.900 be executed for that. 1.00

00:05:40.500 Simple. 0.97

00:05:41.240 That's what we used to do.

00:05:42.540 It's worked for thousands and thousands of years.

00:05:44.800 Very easy.

00:05:46.060 Let's say that for some reason in our society, we don't want to execute terrorists. 0.88

00:05:51.340 Certainly terrorists like this guy should be deported.

00:05:55.380 The guy should have been deported in 2010.

00:05:57.760 Short of that, let's say we don't want to deport them.

00:05:59.460 Short of that, they surely should receive life in prison, right?

00:06:03.740 In no universe should terrorists like this receive sentences of eight years.

00:06:12.120 This guy, however, got off after eight years because of this movement in the West to go

00:06:19.060 easy on criminals and specifically to go easy on terrorists and specifically to go easy on 0.96

00:06:24.340 Muslim terrorists. 0.99

00:06:25.120 So Usman Khan was considered a success story for this rehab program. 0.97

00:06:29.940 He ended up murdering a guy named Jack Merritt, who was leading this rehabilitation conference

00:06:34.900 that was celebrating Khan as a success story.

00:06:37.920 Merritt, Jack Merritt, who was killed, wrote his master's thesis at Cambridge on, quote,

00:06:43.720 a critical analysis of the over-representation of black, Asian, and that means Middle East in

00:06:49.900 the UK, and minority ethnic males aged 18 to 21 in the British prison system.

00:06:55.480 Notice that.

00:06:56.580 He's writing about it from the perspective of race, black, Asian, minority ethnic.

00:07:02.200 But, of course, Usman Khan wasn't in prison for his race.

00:07:06.640 He was in prison for his ideology, Islamism, and then what his ideology impelled him to do, 0.98

00:07:12.720 which was terrorism.

00:07:13.840 Had nothing to do with his race.

00:07:15.280 It had to do with his culture, had to do with his actions, and ultimately it had to do with

00:07:20.640 his religion.

00:07:22.680 His father, not Usman Khan's father, but Jack Merritt's father, his father David, wrote this

00:07:29.000 after the awful killing.

00:07:31.480 Quote,

00:07:31.720 My son Jack, who was killed in this attack, would not wish his death to be used as the

00:07:37.220 pretext for more draconian sentences or for detaining people unnecessarily.

00:07:43.640 Now, I don't think an eight-year sentence for a terrorist is draconian.

00:07:49.120 I think it's way too lenient.

00:07:50.700 Earlier, though, this father, David Merritt, had tweeted out two years ago, going to see my

00:07:56.720 son in Bristol at the weekend.

00:07:58.140 He loves its diversity, like most young people do.

00:08:01.860 He is the future.

00:08:03.240 Racist, angry wanks is the past. 0.68

00:08:07.460 So he's saying, if you oppose indiscriminate mass migration, if you oppose strong sentences 1.00

00:08:15.560 for terrorists, if you oppose these things, you're a racist, you're angry, you're crazy. 0.94

00:08:19.900 Now, this ended up tragically, right? 0.97

00:08:21.560 This ended up tragically with his son being killed.

00:08:23.540 Same thing, the other victim, Saskia Jones, was another student activist for leniency 0.82

00:08:29.240 on terrorists.

00:08:30.420 What are we seeing here?

00:08:31.780 What we're seeing is a conflict of religious vision, not even just between Christianity

00:08:37.400 and Islam, but between Islam, radical Islam, rather, and secular liberalism.

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00:10:28.900 So what are we seeing here?

00:10:30.660 You know, we saw the New York Times posted this, this article after the London attack.

00:10:37.260 Jack Merritt died in the London Bridge attack.

00:10:40.180 Don't forget what he stood for, which is to say, don't change your mind about criminal

00:10:46.660 sentencing for terrorists just because this terrorist was broke out of, because of this

00:10:53.160 rehabilitation program, was out of prison and then ended up killing even the people

00:10:57.340 who advocated to get him out of prison.

00:10:59.320 This is a conflict of visions.

00:11:02.940 We know what motivated Usman Khan, who's radical Islam. 0.89

00:11:08.260 What motivated the people who let him out of prison?

00:11:13.100 What motivated them was another sort of religion, secular liberalism.

00:11:18.100 Secular liberalism is a matter of faith.

00:11:21.260 And unfortunately, it is the dominant religion of the West right now. 0.99

00:11:24.900 It is the religion that took over the West after the West gave up Christianity. 0.99

00:11:30.960 Secular liberalism is taken on faith.

00:11:33.440 The way I can show you this is, look at how the people who defend secular liberalism are

00:11:38.040 talking about the incident.

00:11:39.160 They're saying, don't ignore what happened.

00:11:41.860 Don't look at what happened.

00:11:43.000 Don't look at the results of these secular liberal, tolerant, diverse, everybody forgive

00:11:50.000 everything as a matter of civil law, not as a matter of personal law.

00:11:55.040 Forgiveness is very good personally, but as a matter of the actual civil law, you can't

00:11:59.860 just only forgive people.

00:12:00.900 You need criminal justice.

00:12:02.040 Secular liberalism is saying, no, don't do that.

00:12:04.060 Don't look at that.

00:12:05.480 It's refusing to acknowledge the facts.

00:12:08.980 It's refusing to acknowledge the circumstances here.

00:12:11.860 Because secular liberalism has this faith that everything can just be rehabilitated.

00:12:18.020 In criminal justice, there's no such thing as justice itself.

00:12:22.440 You should never have retributive criminal justice.

00:12:26.940 It's all just about rehabilitating everybody because everybody can just be rehabilitated

00:12:31.620 with the right circumstances.

00:12:33.120 That isn't true.

00:12:34.480 That's a religious premise and it's not true.

00:12:37.940 We know that radical Islam is a problem in the West. 0.98

00:12:42.380 There have been countless Islamic terrorist attacks and terrorist plots over the past several 0.90

00:12:47.640 decades.

00:12:48.220 Thousands and thousands of people murdered.

00:12:51.120 Disciples of secular liberalism refuse to acknowledge that.

00:12:55.000 Here's an example.

00:12:57.340 Just last week, a radicalized Muslim was arrested for trying to blow up Miami-Dade College and

00:13:03.160 Broward College.

00:13:04.680 Did you hear about that?

00:13:06.080 Did you know about that?

00:13:07.280 Did you read about that in the news?

00:13:08.500 Probably not.

00:13:09.760 It's there.

00:13:10.660 You can look it up.

00:13:12.080 But they didn't do it.

00:13:13.460 A young man, 23-year-old Salman Rashid of North Miami Beach, tried to bomb both of those

00:13:19.320 colleges.

00:13:20.540 This is not being covered because it conflicts with the narrative of secular liberalism, which

00:13:26.060 seeks to ignore Islam and suppress Christianity. 0.96

00:13:29.680 If you want an example of that, by the way, look no further than the Democratic presidential

00:13:34.120 candidate Bernie Sanders.

00:13:35.060 Bernie Sanders last week was pressing, was interrogating Russell Vaught, the nominee to

00:13:41.880 be deputy director of the Office of Management and Budget.

00:13:44.680 He was put up there by Trump for the position.

00:13:47.040 Sanders was interrogating the guy because he believes, ultimately, Sanders believes, that

00:13:54.760 Christianity is not compatible with America. 0.99

00:13:58.220 Here's Bernie.

00:13:58.640 In the piece that I referred to that you wrote for a publication called Resurgent, you wrote 0.92

00:14:04.380 Muslim, quote, Muslims do not simply have a deficient theology. 0.54

00:14:09.520 They do not know God because they have rejected Jesus Christ, his son, and they stand condemned. 0.98

00:14:17.100 End of quote.

00:14:17.600 Do you believe, do you believe that that statement is Islamophobic?

00:14:22.920 Absolutely not, Senator.

00:14:25.580 I'm a Christian, and I believe in a Christian state.

00:14:29.080 Again, I apologize.

00:14:30.480 Forgive me.

00:14:31.320 We just don't have a lot of time.

00:14:33.260 Do you believe that people in the Muslim religion stand condemned?

00:14:37.280 Is that your view?

00:14:37.980 Again, Senator, I'm a Christian, and I wrote that piece.

00:14:41.620 Well, what does that say?

00:14:42.640 According to the statement of faith of Wheaton God.

00:14:44.500 I understand that.

00:14:45.400 I don't know how many Muslims there are in America.

00:14:47.300 I really don't know.

00:14:47.920 Probably a couple of million.

00:14:48.720 Are you suggesting that all of those people stand condemned?

00:14:52.780 What about Jews?

00:14:53.600 They stand condemned too?

00:14:55.440 Senator, I'm a Christian.

00:14:57.740 I understand you are a Christian, but this country is made up of people who are not just.

00:15:02.780 I understand that Christianity is the majority religion, but there are other people who have

00:15:06.820 different religions in this country and around the world.

00:15:09.300 Listen to how angry Bernie gets there.

00:15:11.360 I understand you're a Christian. 1.00

00:15:13.120 You stupid. 1.00

00:15:14.000 Shut up, you Christian. 1.00

00:15:15.400 Shut up, you Christian. 1.00

00:15:17.340 But Bernie doesn't understand religion because Bernie's an atheist. 1.00

00:15:22.120 I don't know that he's ever come out right and said that he's an atheist, but he has all

00:15:26.640 but said that.

00:15:27.160 He said, I'm not religious.

00:15:28.280 I don't practice a religion.

00:15:29.720 He's an atheist.

00:15:31.080 He's certainly practically an atheist, and he doesn't understand religion. 1.00

00:15:36.640 I mean, what a stupid question. 1.00

00:15:38.200 Excuse me, Mr. Vought. 1.00

00:15:39.760 You say that you don't believe that people who don't believe in Jesus are going to heaven.

00:15:44.820 Do you believe that that statement is Islamophobic? 0.98

00:15:48.500 Well, first of all, I don't think anything is Islamophobic because it's a completely ridiculous 1.00

00:15:52.020 and made up term.

00:15:53.560 But even if he did, unfortunately, this guy Vought, probably to his benefit, but unfortunate

00:16:00.620 for all of us who want clarity on this issue.

00:16:02.680 He should have thrown the question right back at Bernie.

00:16:04.480 He should have said, Senator Sanders, you're asking me if it is wrong and hateful and bigoted

00:16:12.520 for a Christian to believe that Jesus Christ is the savior, that there's no salvation outside 0.94

00:16:18.360 the church.

00:16:19.600 Senator Sanders, do you believe that your question is Christophobic?

00:16:23.540 Do you believe you're asking a Christophobic question?

00:16:25.360 That's another term that, I mean, what is that, what on earth could that term mean? 0.97

00:16:30.600 You don't hear that term a lot, but that would be a ridiculous, a way to show the ridiculousness 0.85

00:16:37.160 of the point that Sanders is making by throwing it right back on him. 0.55

00:16:40.400 But you never hear that because Bernie Sanders, as an atheist, is effectively practicing the 0.99

00:16:46.980 religion of secular liberalism.

00:16:49.360 And it's just not sufficient.

00:16:50.860 It just doesn't work.

00:16:51.660 We'll see, he actually goes on, he gives away the whole game in the end.

00:16:55.420 We'll get to that in a second.

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00:18:31.440 Bernie doesn't understand what religion is.

00:18:33.620 I mean, how crazy to ask a guy, hey, do you believe that, if you're a Christian,

00:18:41.840 do you believe that people who don't believe in Jesus are like a little bit in trouble?

00:18:45.880 You think they don't quite have it right?

00:18:47.140 You think maybe there's no salvation without the Savior?

00:18:51.700 Senator Sanders, do you know what religion is?

00:18:53.580 Do you know what Christianity is?

00:18:56.800 I mean, would he ask this question to a Muslim?

00:18:59.180 Would he say, excuse me, you say that people who do not believe in Muhammad are wrong about religion,

00:19:04.660 that they're condemned, that they're in trouble.

00:19:06.920 Do you think that that statement is a little Christophobic, a little Judeophobic, a little atheistophobic?

00:19:12.620 No, he would never ask him that.

00:19:14.200 Because the purpose of this line of questioning,

00:19:18.640 what the left always does in the religion of secular liberalism,

00:19:22.020 is ignore Islam, suppress Christianity. 0.82

00:19:24.180 He goes on, and Bernie gives away the game.

00:19:27.620 In your judgment, do you think that people who are not Christians are going to be condemned?

00:19:32.940 Thank you for probing on that question.

00:19:34.600 As a Christian, I believe that all individuals are made in the image of God

00:19:39.060 and are worthy of dignity and respect, regardless of their religious beliefs.

00:19:44.680 I believe that as a Christian, that's how I should treat all individuals.

00:19:48.180 And do you think your statement that you put into that publication,

00:19:53.000 they do not know God because they've rejected Jesus Christ the Son and they stand condemned,

00:19:59.520 do you think that's respectful of other religions?

00:20:01.680 I would simply say, Mr. Chairman, that this nominee is really not someone

00:20:07.940 who is what this country is supposed to be about.

00:20:12.600 He's just, look, the guy, this Christian guy,

00:20:16.600 is not someone who is what this country is supposed to be about. 0.83

00:20:20.080 By the way, Russell Vaught, it's not like he's some total radical, wacky Christian. 0.61

00:20:25.760 He just believes that you need Jesus to be saved.

00:20:29.480 That's something that all Christians believe.

00:20:31.480 That is the New Testament.

00:20:34.760 What Bernie is saying is that Christians, all right, 1.00

00:20:37.700 that's not what this country is about.

00:20:38.840 This country that was founded by Puritans who sailed on the Mayflower

00:20:42.660 and celebrated the first Thanksgiving, which we all celebrated last week.

00:20:46.180 This country which had its first major speech titled A Model of Christian Charity.

00:20:51.940 This country who, in all of its famous orations, has invoked God,

00:20:58.280 specifically the Christian God,

00:21:01.080 has invoked it in our most famous speeches and in our currency.

00:21:04.880 There has been a movement in the West for over a century to sideline religion.

00:21:12.400 You heard Bernie Sanders just say it.

00:21:13.640 He said, do you think that it's respectful to other religions to have your own religious views?

00:21:20.420 Right?

00:21:20.660 What he's saying is, if you believe in Jesus, that's exclusive.

00:21:25.880 It's excluding other religions. 0.83

00:21:27.840 If you hold any religious belief, that, by definition, excludes other religions.

00:21:31.780 Same thing with Islam. 0.99

00:21:33.620 Same thing with Judaism. 0.93

00:21:35.800 It's exclusive.

00:21:37.140 So he's saying, is it respectful of other religions to do that?

00:21:39.940 Well, by that definition of respect,

00:21:43.320 the only way you could respect other religions is not believe in them at all. 0.95

00:21:46.180 And that's what the secular left has tried to do.

00:21:48.940 It doesn't work, though, because man is fundamentally a religious being.

00:21:52.260 It's why you're seeing young people flock to climate activism.

00:21:55.080 We saw there was an article published just last week by Greta Thunberg,

00:21:59.480 Louisa, who's the child climate activist, Louisa Neubauer, who's a radical leftist German politician,

00:22:05.540 and Angela Valenzuela, who's another adult leftist activist.

00:22:09.980 And the column admits that climate change is fundamentally not about the environment.

00:22:14.600 It's about so much more.

00:22:15.860 It's a totalizing religion. 0.84

00:22:18.980 What does the article say?

00:22:20.500 The article says, quote,

00:22:21.260 There was a blue checkmark guy on Twitter who acknowledged this.

00:22:45.720 This guy, Zach Cantor, he said, quote,

00:22:47.720 One huge drawback of nuclear power is that it doesn't dismantle systems of oppression.

00:22:52.560 It only produces clean energy.

00:22:55.940 That's the drawback for the environmentalist, is that it only produces clean energy.

00:23:00.880 This makes it unsuitable for solving the climate crisis, which isn't just about the environment.

00:23:07.000 It is like this guy is the environmentalist version of St. Paul.

00:23:12.020 St. Paul writes in Ephesians,

00:23:13.280 Our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, 0.99

00:23:17.940 against the rulers of this world, of the world of this darkness,

00:23:21.200 against the spirits of wickedness in the high places.

00:23:24.140 Very famous line from the Bible.

00:23:26.680 That's what this guy said.

00:23:27.620 He goes,

00:23:28.320 The purpose of environmentalism is not just to have a clean environment.

00:23:31.560 It's so much bigger.

00:23:32.580 The climate crisis is not about the climate.

00:23:34.460 It's about religion.

00:23:35.380 It's a religious vision.

00:23:37.280 It is led by political activists and idols rather than by scientists.

00:23:40.780 And by the way, I'm not pointing out that climate change is a religion as a knock-on climate change.

00:23:47.040 I mean, I'm pointing it out because there's some hypocrisy or they say it's scientific and secular,

00:23:53.960 when really it is a sort of religious vision.

00:23:56.780 But I'm not attacking it as an insult, right?

00:23:59.320 I'm not saying it's religious, therefore that's bad. 1.00

00:24:01.780 I'm pretty religious.

00:24:02.520 I think religion isn't a very good thing.

00:24:05.000 I think that man is fundamentally a religious being.

00:24:08.600 And I don't even blame leftists for falling for their religion.

00:24:11.700 All right?

00:24:11.900 At least these people, the radical climate change people,

00:24:15.000 at least they're recognizing that secular liberalism is insufficient.

00:24:19.980 Our humanity requires something more than that.

00:24:22.200 We're longing for something more than that.

00:24:23.800 Same way I feel about transgenderism. 0.83

00:24:26.620 Transgenderism is literally false. 1.00

00:24:29.240 It's not true.

00:24:30.180 A man cannot become a woman by wishing it. 1.00

00:24:32.520 A woman can't become a man by wishing it. 1.00

00:24:34.780 There are not 57 genders and more.

00:24:37.100 It's literally false.

00:24:38.600 But at least what it speaks to is this sense that human beings have a soul.

00:24:43.580 We're aware that we have a soul, that we're not just matter.

00:24:46.080 We're not just clumps of cells.

00:24:47.580 That scientific materialism and secular liberalism are ultimately false.

00:24:51.500 Same thing with climate change.

00:24:52.720 The world's not going to end in 10 years because of the sun monster.

00:24:55.260 That's not true.

00:24:56.140 But there is a sense that there are greater forces at work in this world.

00:25:02.720 It is not the case that the patriarchy and this supremacy and that supremacy, that those are systems of oppression that are keeping us down.

00:25:10.600 That's not true.

00:25:11.340 But there is a true sense that these people are intuiting that this world is fundamentally broken, that this world is flawed, that there are principalities and powers and spiritual wickedness in high places.

00:25:24.900 It's not that this world is controlled by the wickedness of the patriarchy or the white supremacy or this.

00:25:30.780 It's that it's controlled by the devil.

00:25:32.700 It's that the devil is the prince of lies and the prince of this world here and that we need some salvation.

00:25:37.720 It's not that they're wrong that there will be an end of days.

00:25:40.700 They're wrong that it's going to end in 10 years.

00:25:42.220 But there will be an end of days.

00:25:43.680 And look, we're entering this Advent season right now.

00:25:47.420 Advent is the period of time before Christmas when Christians contemplate death, judgment, heaven, and hell. 0.99

00:25:54.360 It's a good reminder that all human conflict is ultimately theological.

00:25:59.920 We are going to have a religion.

00:26:01.340 Everybody's got to serve somebody.

00:26:02.540 The question you have to ask as an individual and as a society is what religion are we going to have?

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00:30:27.640 All right, we've got to check in on the 2020 campaign trail.

00:30:38.580 Things are not looking great for the Left, okay?

00:30:42.380 You don't need to take my word for it.

00:30:44.060 You can take their words for it.

00:30:45.180 The Left knows it.

00:30:46.100 The Left knows that things are not looking great for them, which is why I got, I guess it was on Thanksgiving or Black Friday.

00:30:53.800 I think it was on Thanksgiving, though.

00:30:54.820 I got a news alert on my phone.

00:30:56.220 All right, now, the story was that Trump decided to spend Thanksgiving with the troops in the Middle East.

00:31:03.400 That's great.

00:31:03.900 What a great thing to do.

00:31:04.820 That's really nice.

00:31:06.420 Already there had been news reports.

00:31:07.960 Trump is spending the day golfing.

00:31:09.360 Trump is spending the day selfishly.

00:31:11.020 He wasn't really.

00:31:11.720 He was overseas with the troops.

00:31:13.840 This was the Washington Post news alert that I got on my phone.

00:31:17.260 I don't have a Washington Post app.

00:31:19.320 I don't subscribe to the Washington Post.

00:31:21.020 This was from the Apple News Alert.

00:31:22.520 Quote, Trump's photo op play.

00:31:27.880 Facing impeachment, the president strikes, strives to look hard at work.

00:31:35.340 That's the story.

00:31:36.580 The story is Trump spent Thanksgiving in the Middle East.

00:31:39.060 But WAPO says it's a photo op.

00:31:41.220 Yeah, it's because of impeachment.

00:31:42.880 Yeah, he just wants to look like he's working on it.

00:31:44.900 He's not really doing it.

00:31:45.700 He's just looking like it.

00:31:46.880 Don't believe your eyes.

00:31:47.900 This is from Philip Rucker in the Washington Post.

00:31:50.980 As Democrats in Congress pushed to impeach him, Trump has toured a manufacturing plant

00:31:54.860 in Texas, boasted about economic gains, and signed numerous bills.

00:31:58.400 He served Turkey to U.S. troops in Afghanistan on Thanksgiving and grieved with the families

00:32:02.480 of fallen service members at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware.

00:32:07.340 That's the story.

00:32:08.360 That should be the headline.

00:32:09.180 But the left hates what's going on so much because the real headline, if they had just

00:32:13.600 been honest about what they were thinking, is Trump is doing a good job and we hate that.

00:32:18.700 That's the real Washington Post headline.

00:32:21.440 Why are they so upset that Trump is doing a good job?

00:32:23.840 It's because none of their candidates are doing well at all.

00:32:27.720 They are falling apart on the campaign trail.

00:32:30.120 To begin with the frontrunner, still the main guy, Joe Biden.

00:32:34.900 Joe Biden is on a bus tour of Iowa right now called, I kid you not.

00:32:40.180 The no malarkey tour.

00:32:45.100 Oh, Joe.

00:32:46.100 Joe would have been better doing the hair smelling and shoulder massage tour.

00:32:50.640 I mean, at least that wouldn't have been so cringe inducing as in the no malarkey tour.

00:32:55.700 This is a ripoff of John McCain's 2008 tour.

00:32:59.740 It might have been his 2000 tour too called the Straight Talk Express.

00:33:04.760 By the way, if you want to rip off a presidential campaign, don't rip off a two-time loser.

00:33:09.300 Okay. 0.88

00:33:09.500 That's just a suggestion. 0.96

00:33:11.040 Joe Biden's already a two-time loser though. 0.99

00:33:12.400 He's about to be a three-time loser. 0.93

00:33:14.540 It's a ripoff of John McCain's Straight Talk Express, which was ironic for McCain because McCain was one of the most notorious flip-floppers in US political history. 0.98

00:33:22.020 And it's ironic for Biden because Biden is one of the most prolific liars in American political history. 1.00

00:33:26.800 But it's stupid for another reason. 1.00

00:33:29.480 Obviously, the word malarkey just makes him seem like he's 6,000 years old. 0.99

00:33:34.020 He could call it the 23 Skidu tour.

00:33:38.100 The spirit of, I don't know.

00:33:39.780 Now, he might as well say, I'm a really, really old guy bus tour by calling it no malarkey.

00:33:47.300 Now, what Biden is trying to do is just embrace it, right?

00:33:50.660 Yeah, I'm an old-fashioned guy, but that's what you need.

00:33:52.640 You need stable statesmen.

00:33:54.080 But even by using the word, you could call it the BS tour, no BS tour, by putting the bus tour in the negative, you are making that term the essence of the campaign.

00:34:11.580 So no malarkey tour, the word that people remember is malarkey.

00:34:15.020 It's not no.

00:34:15.740 So actually, when I was thinking of this today, this morning, in my mind, it was called the Malarkey Express tour, which obviously would be the opposite meaning of no malarkey tour.

00:34:25.640 But you just think malarkey.

00:34:27.020 Okay, it's the malarkey tour.

00:34:28.000 It'd be like if it were called the no BS tour.

00:34:30.760 What you would think of is BS.

00:34:33.320 Okay, this tour is about BS.

00:34:34.920 You don't want to put yourself in the negative.

00:34:36.660 But look, that's the least of Joe Biden's problems.

00:34:38.800 Joe Biden was on the campaign trail on the no malarkey bus tour.

00:34:41.500 And his wife was up there talking about what a great guy he is and why you should vote for him.

00:34:46.340 And she's waving her hand around.

00:34:47.620 And Joe Biden decided to bite her finger.

00:34:50.040 And when they cut to the president of the United States, you call your kids in from the other room because you want them to hear what the president of the United States has to say.

00:35:07.840 Okay, this was a funny moment.

00:35:09.200 And you probably saw the memes going around, but as she's speaking, she's waving her hands around.

00:35:13.700 And Joe, he's like, it's going right in front of his face.

00:35:15.840 And he just leans in and kind of nibbles on her finger a little bit.

00:35:19.260 This actually could have been cute or funny if it were a different candidate.

00:35:24.660 If Joe Biden were not already being dogged with the image that he's creepy and he's inappropriately affectionate and he's going senile, this could have been a really funny little moment.

00:35:35.060 But because of that, the guy just didn't read the room and he goes for it.

00:35:39.380 And now there's this image going around of him like kind of feebly and confusedly licking his wife's finger, you know, or chewing on her finger.

00:35:47.200 Doesn't look good.

00:35:48.700 He's not helping himself.

00:35:50.780 It's the fact that there are always going to be unfair attacks in politics.

00:35:55.680 People are going to take a cute moment and turn it into a creepy moment.

00:35:58.400 People are going to take a funny moment, turn it into a serious, somber moment.

00:36:01.380 That's always going to happen.

00:36:02.860 The trouble is if you have not countered that image that they're putting out already, then you're in trouble.

00:36:08.580 And Joe is not countering that image.

00:36:10.240 He was in Iowa giving a talk about, I don't really know what, because the talk ended up surrounding his leg hair and the color and shape of his leg hair.

00:36:23.840 I kid you not, I don't really know what he was talking about.

00:36:27.240 Here is Joe Biden rambling incoherently for 30 seconds.

00:36:32.240 And by the way, you know, I sit on the stand and it get hot. 0.74

00:36:36.220 I got a lot of, I got hairy legs that turn, that, that, that, that, that, that turn blonde in the sun. 0.99

00:36:44.760 And the kids used to come up and reach in the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and then watch the hair come back up again.

00:36:53.580 They'd look at it.

00:36:54.540 So I learned about roaches.

00:36:55.840 I learned about kids jumping on my lap and I've loved kids jumping on my lap.

00:37:00.300 If a Saturday Night Live writer turned in that script and said, hey, this is going to be our satire of Joe Biden this week, the producers would say, no, that's too far. 0.97

00:37:13.240 That's too ridiculous.

00:37:14.100 Except that was actually Joe Biden actually talking about how, for some reason on the campaign trail, how he used to be at a pool and the kids would go up and rub his legs because it had kind of weird hair on it. 0.95

00:37:25.960 And that's when he learned to love kids sitting in his lap.

00:37:30.220 You can't make this stuff up.

00:37:32.920 He appears to be losing it.

00:37:35.700 He appears, I'm not even saying he's totally demented.

00:37:38.900 I'm not saying he's, I'm not, I'm saying he's lost whatever political ability he once had.

00:37:45.320 Joe Biden is one of the all-time great glad handers.

00:37:47.760 He's one of the all-time great just smiling, simpering politicians who goes around and pats you on the back and makes you feel like he really likes you and he's a really good guy.

00:37:57.620 Okay, that's always been Joe Biden's superpower.

00:38:00.100 He's losing that because he's just not as with it as he used to be because he's up there in ages and people of his, not just his age maybe, but his wherewithal should not be running for president.

00:38:15.060 So the Democrats are in trouble.

00:38:16.900 They're now pinning their sort of moderate, could win in the Midwest hopes on Mayor Pete Buttigieg, but that isn't going to work because Buttigieg, this whole campaign has not been able to figure out who he is.

00:38:29.680 I think his instincts tell him to be the Midwestern, nice, likable, moderate guy.

00:38:35.460 Okay, look, he's a Harvard guy.

00:38:36.780 He's a Rhodes Scholar.

00:38:38.320 Okay, that's the lane that he's going to go in.

00:38:41.140 But he keeps seeming like a radical.

00:38:45.480 He keeps his radicalness, just keeps peeking out, you know.

00:38:51.000 I wonder if this is because he's a millennial.

00:38:53.040 He's younger, so radicalism comes more naturally to young left-wingers.

00:38:57.020 But he keeps coming out.

00:38:58.400 So you see it not just on the hectoring over, you know, if you don't support radically redefining marriage, you're a bad person and a bad Christian.

00:39:06.060 It's not just, even in, he'll say that if you don't support abortion, you could be a bad Christian. 0.78

00:39:11.680 He tried to say that the Bible defends killing babies.

00:39:15.980 Now, he was at a campaign event called the Poor People's Campaign, and he said that illegal aliens are actually subsidizing America.

00:39:28.240 I mean, the uncomfortable reality is that undocumented folks are, in many ways, like Social Security, subsidizing everybody else. 1.00

00:39:35.020 And we need to talk about that.

00:39:36.120 Yeah, not true at all.

00:39:37.900 Completely false.

00:39:38.820 The uncomfortable reality is that it's an outright lie.

00:39:41.460 The Government Accountability Office found in 1995, 1995, 24 years ago, when the illegal immigration problem was way, way less intense than what we're seeing right now.

00:39:55.260 They found that illegal aliens in the U.S. generate more in costs than revenues to federal, state, and local governments combined.

00:40:04.260 The estimates of national net cost of illegal aliens vary greatly, ranging from $2 billion to $19 billion per year.

00:40:12.700 That's not today.

00:40:13.960 That was in 1995, when we had way fewer illegal aliens and when we had way fewer government services available to illegal aliens.

00:40:22.180 Illegal immigration is a huge net cost on the country. 1.00

00:40:27.360 There is no evidence whatsoever for what Pete Buttigieg is saying.

00:40:31.340 But then he somehow gets even more radical because the person from the Poor People's Campaign who is interviewing him has the audacity to suggest that illegal aliens are just coming here because they're reclaiming land that was stolen.

00:40:45.240 And there's Pete Buttigieg nodding along in agreement.

00:40:47.680 And shouldn't we have some conversation whenever people say we call people illegal aliens and all these things that are not human and certainly not Christian?

00:40:57.900 Why can't we just own in America that some of the people that are trying to come from Mexico here are coming back to land we stole? 0.97

00:41:09.820 And the reason we took the land is because people wanted to keep their slaves. 0.99

00:41:15.660 I mean, we have to have some historical clarity around these issues.

00:41:20.740 Abraham Lincoln was against the Mexican-American war.

00:41:24.140 We need to have some historical clarity here, which is why, and look, I've never cracked a history book open in my life, but it's why I'm just going to say random things that have popped into my head for historical clarity.

00:41:38.620 Obviously, what he's saying is not historical at all.

00:41:41.240 The United States didn't steal land from El Salvador or Nicaragua or Guatemala, which is where the majority of these illegal aliens are coming from these days. 1.00

00:41:50.800 And the whole idea of we stole the land anyway is ridiculous because until very, very recently, the law of conquest was the law of the land.

00:42:01.020 So, for instance, very often you will hear these kind of they're just plain old leftist activists, but sometimes they'll pretend that they're indigenous activists or some other subset of leftist activism.

00:42:12.140 They will say we need to return the land to the Native Americans. 1.00

00:42:15.760 And I always say, okay, which Native Americans are we returning it to? 0.98

00:42:20.620 We stole land from the Comanche Indians. 1.00

00:42:23.880 Should we return it from the Comanche Indians? 1.00

00:42:25.800 The Comanche Indians stole it from the Apache Indians. 0.99

00:42:29.300 Do we return it to the Apache Indians? 1.00

00:42:31.220 Who had the land before the Apache Indians? 0.99

00:42:33.840 How about further down south in Latin America, which is what these guys are talking about?

00:42:38.740 Do we return land to the Aztecs?

00:42:40.580 I think the Aztecs were some of the most barbaric conquerors in all of human history. 0.92

00:42:45.960 They were monsters.

00:42:47.400 They slaughtered 80,000 men, women, and children at just the single consecration of the Temple of Tenochtitlan. 0.71

00:42:54.520 Do we return it to them?

00:42:56.360 I don't think so.

00:42:57.240 Do we return land to the Taino Indians? 0.99

00:42:59.600 Do we return land to the Carib Indians who attacked, viciously physically attacked, and often ate the Taino Indians? 1.00

00:43:07.480 Who are we going to return this land to?

00:43:10.500 A ridiculous argument, but it's not an argument based on reality.

00:43:14.300 It's an argument based on these kind of random impulses toward leftism. 0.87

00:43:22.280 And that's what Mayor Pete is falling into.

00:43:24.680 He just can't resist it.

00:43:25.960 He's nodding there along because he doesn't want to contradict the guy.

00:43:28.980 It means the Democrats have nobody.

00:43:30.760 I mean, who's going to win it?

00:43:32.060 Who's going to take it now?

00:43:32.900 I think Bernie maybe has more of a chance than ever because Warren exploded herself with her ridiculous health care plan. 1.00

00:43:42.960 Biden is falling apart and Pastor Pete can't find his lane.

00:43:46.940 Who's going to win?

00:43:48.040 Mike Bloomberg?

00:43:48.740 I don't think Mike Bloomberg is going to win.

00:43:50.340 They're in trouble.

00:43:51.260 And Trump is doing very well at the moment.

00:43:53.800 He's got pretty decent support.

00:43:56.480 He's got his base firmly in line, largely because of impeachment.

00:43:59.520 And he's made huge inroads into the black vote.

00:44:02.860 One poll shows he's got 34.5% of the black vote at the moment, which would historically end the Democratic Party on the national level.

00:44:13.520 And there are other polls that back up his significant support among black voters.

00:44:18.040 Bad news for the left.

00:44:19.220 They don't know how to respond to this.

00:44:20.960 And around the world you see just this kind of doubling down on the same stale old secular liberalism that we've seen for decades and decades, for over a century now.

00:44:30.360 Over in Germany, Angela Merkel is now so doubling down on this, she says that we need, in the name of liberalism, in the name of freedom, we need to suppress free speech.

00:44:43.800 I am generally skeptical of chancellors of Germany, okay?

00:44:48.160 And it's because, you know, I want a little historical clarity too, just like that guy talking to Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

00:44:53.980 All right, a little, if you look with a little historical clarity, you will find out chancellors of Germany, not always the best people.

00:45:02.140 But Angela Merkel there, with a completely straight face, gives this speech saying, we need to stop free speech in the name of freedom.

00:45:09.980 I'll translate from the German.

00:45:14.860 She says, we have freedom of expression in our country.

00:45:17.580 For all those who claim that they can no longer express their opinion, I say this to them.

00:45:23.740 If you express a pronounced opinion, you must live with the fact that you will be contradicted.

00:45:30.720 Expressing an opinion does not come at zero cost.

00:45:34.620 Okay, fair enough.

00:45:36.060 Then she goes on.

00:45:36.780 But freedom of expression has its limits.

00:45:38.580 Those limits begin where hatred is spread.

00:45:42.960 They begin where the dignity of other people is violated.

00:45:46.280 This house will and must oppose extreme speech.

00:45:49.920 Otherwise, our society will no longer be the free society that it was.

00:45:55.860 Unless we get rid of freedom of expression, we won't have any freedom.

00:46:01.480 Look, the freedom that matters most is the freedom of expression, right?

00:46:04.060 Man is ultimately a religious animal. 0.68

00:46:08.420 And the way that our society expresses itself is through politics.

00:46:13.100 How do we engage in politics?

00:46:14.540 Through speech.

00:46:15.600 Speech separates us from the beasts.

00:46:18.120 We have this ability to communicate with each other.

00:46:20.200 If you radically restrict that, you are restricting our humanity and our freedom.

00:46:25.160 But the question is, what kind of freedom are we talking about?

00:46:28.120 What kind of freedom is Angela Merkel talking about?

00:46:31.960 There are many types of freedom.

00:46:33.880 Freedom from material want.

00:46:35.860 That's what socialism promises.

00:46:37.260 It never delivers, but that's what it promises.

00:46:39.160 That's what capitalism promises, and it does deliver.

00:46:41.360 That's one type of freedom.

00:46:43.060 There's freedom from discomfort.

00:46:44.480 That's what the safe spaces promise, although they're pretty uncomfortable for the people who they're censoring.

00:46:50.500 There's freedom from censorship.

00:46:53.180 Then there is a deeper kind of freedom, an exalted freedom, the traditional understanding of freedom in the West, which is the Christian understanding, which is freedom from sin.

00:47:05.780 It's freedom from this kind of wickedness.

00:47:08.180 You know, Christ says, he who sins is a slave to sin.

00:47:12.980 This is why just that very shallow understanding of freedom, that freedom is not having other people tell you what to do, which is important.

00:47:21.480 We don't want other people to tell us what to do, but that's insufficient.

00:47:24.660 That secular liberalism is insufficient ultimately because we can enslave ourselves to addictions, to drugs, to porn, to any of our appetites.

00:47:32.560 We can do that.

00:47:33.980 And this is why the wisest ancient societies all the way through the present have understood that freedom comes from pursuing the good.

00:47:41.800 It comes from virtue.

00:47:43.180 It comes from self-discipline.

00:47:45.840 That discipline will be imposed on you or it will be imposed by, it will be imposed by you rather, on yourself, or it will be imposed by a massive tyrannical government.

00:47:54.880 But that will, the order will stand.

00:47:57.460 The discipline will have to be there.

00:47:59.420 That is not merely a political question.

00:48:01.500 What that boils down to ultimately is a religious question.

00:48:04.840 And what we have to acknowledge, what we have to decide, is which religion we are going to follow because everybody's got to serve somebody.

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The Michael Knowles Show - December 02, 2019

Ep. 458 - All Human Conflict Is Religious

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