The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 461 - The High Crime Of Orange Man Bad

00:00:00.000 Democratic Representative Jerry Nadler and the House Judiciary Committee presided over the first

00:00:06.780 day of official impeachment hearings yesterday, where expert witnesses made the incisive

00:00:12.800 constitutional argument that orange man bad, orange man very bad. We will explain the expert

00:00:22.960 constitutional experts, and we will explain why they think the 2016 election should be overturned.

00:00:30.380 Their arguments and the arguments against impeachment, all of them coming from an

00:00:35.500 unexpected source. Then Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau trash talks President Trump behind

00:00:41.960 his back. Trans activists in Washington accuse cops of killing their families. And finally,

00:00:47.100 the mailbag. All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:52.960 For those of you who are not as expert in the Constitution as all of those experts that the

00:01:03.640 Democrats dragged before the impeachment hearings yesterday, I will just remind you that the

00:01:08.820 president can be removed from office for treason, bribery, other high crimes and misdemeanors,

00:01:17.820 and if the orange man is very bad. People miss that part. It's not taught as often in law schools

00:01:23.840 anymore, but it is certainly the case. It's actually a more egregious crime than treason,

00:01:28.660 bribery, or the high crimes and misdemeanors. The orange man being bad is the impeachable offense,

00:01:33.680 and that is pretty clearly what the Democrats are going to impeach Donald Trump over. We will go

00:01:38.840 through the circus that took place yesterday before the Judiciary Committee. We will go through the

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00:04:06.920 expert testimony, beginning with Professor Pamela Carlin. One big mistake the Democrats made

00:04:14.840 at these impeachment hearings. Obviously, they're going to call their people. They're going to call

00:04:20.160 leftists. They're going to call Democrats. They're going to call people who hate Donald Trump.

00:04:23.800 All right, we just know that's going to happen. But it was a big mistake on their part to call

00:04:29.840 experts who are so obviously biased, who are so obviously partisan, who come across as such hacks.

00:04:38.340 The whole point of having experts show up to your impeachment hearings is to give this patina of

00:04:43.820 credibility, of non-partisanship, of, you know, we're just looking at the facts here, folks, and that's

00:04:49.620 why we have to remove the president. They just couldn't do that. They picked, for their first

00:04:53.720 witness, as partisan, as hacky, an expert as you could possibly imagine. Professor Pamela Carlin,

00:05:03.760 Stanford Law professor, radical leftist and Democrat. She wrote a whole book about how awful

00:05:09.200 the 2000 election was when Al Gore lost. She's an Obama appointee. She was under Obama, working for

00:05:16.080 Obama and Eric Holder, a very corrupt attorney general. She was the U.S. Deputy Assistant Attorney

00:05:21.280 General. She's an outspoken LGBT activist. In Obama's DOJ, she was a key person to implement

00:05:28.980 the redefinition of marriage. You look at her political donations, donates to a lot of Democrats,

00:05:35.220 and she, this is probably the worst part for her credibility, she called for the impeachment of

00:05:40.640 Trump two years ago. So if what the Democrats are saying now is, we weren't going to impeach Trump,

00:05:46.360 but now we have to because he made a long distance phone call to Ukraine or whatever the issue is with

00:05:51.240 the Ukraine phone call. That doesn't hold up when you realize that this law professor and this

00:05:56.140 Democratic activist was trying to impeach the guy two years ago. She actually said on camera,

00:06:02.020 on a microphone, that when she walks by the Trump hotel in Washington, D.C., she is so disgusted that

00:06:08.820 she has to cross to the other side of the street. I was struck, you know, I came in from the airport

00:06:14.580 yesterday and I got off the bus from Dulles down at L'Enfant Plaza and I walked up to the hotel and

00:06:19.960 as I was walking past what used to be the old post office building and is now the Trump hotel,

00:06:26.640 which I had to cross the street, of course. But are you staying there? God, no, never,

00:06:34.380 never. But as I was walking past it, I noticed there's a... No, never. Oh, it's so awful. I can't

00:06:40.400 even bear to be on the sidewalk in front of the hotel. Hi, I'm going to be your nonpartisan expert

00:06:45.500 witness. Okay, not a lot of credibility. She actually, as she's testifying, she said that she

00:06:50.560 was so riled up for these impeachment hearings that she didn't even eat Thanksgiving. All she was doing

00:06:57.920 was reading transcripts. She was so hungry, not for Turkey, but to oust the duly elected

00:07:03.860 president of the United States. You know, I spent all of Thanksgiving vacation

00:07:08.860 sitting there reading these transcripts. I didn't, you know, I ate like a turkey that came to us in

00:07:15.320 the mail that was already cooked because I was spending my time doing this. I was so excited.

00:07:21.480 Gobble, gobble, give me all those Ukraine transcripts. So in her blind hatred of the president,

00:07:26.620 she made a crucial error. Not just the Democrats' error in inviting her, but her error during her

00:07:34.420 testimony. She let her zeal to impeach this guy, her absolute disdain for the president come out

00:07:41.920 and cause her to bring Donald Trump's 13-year-old son into the picture. Now, the left loves bringing

00:07:50.760 children into politics. They do it all the time. They did it with the, the Parkland kids. After the

00:07:56.540 shooting at Parkland High School, they brought these, these traumatized kids in and put them on

00:08:01.580 a pedestal, put them on a stage, put, gave them a lot of money, gave them a big spotlight. Obviously,

00:08:06.040 they're doing that now with Greta Thunberg, the environmentalist child from Sweden. And they're

00:08:11.780 putting her on a stage and they're giving her a lot of attention and they, they're foisting her right

00:08:15.340 in front of the media. That's an awful thing that is absolutely indefensible, but that's kind of their

00:08:20.920 MO. They don't just do it though, for kids who want the spotlight. Baron Trump has very much shied

00:08:26.760 away from the spotlight. He doesn't go on stage. He doesn't want to be in the media. And this woman,

00:08:33.220 as she's describing why Trump is so awful, he's so awful because he thinks he's a king. He's so awful

00:08:38.600 because he thinks he's a royal. She decides to bring his 13 year old son into it. Big no, no.

00:08:46.440 What comparisons, Professor Carlin, can we make between Kings that the framers were afraid of

00:08:52.800 and the president's conduct today? So Kings could do no wrong because the King's word was law.

00:08:59.780 And contrary to what President Trump has said, article two does not give him the power to do

00:09:04.500 anything he wants. And I'll just give you one example that shows you the difference between him

00:09:09.020 and a king, which is the constitution says there can be no titles of nobility. So while the president

00:09:14.880 can name his son baron, he can't make him a baron. Oh, yeah. All right, folks, try the veal,

00:09:23.560 tip your waitress. I'll be here all week. See you later. The really egregious thing about that statement

00:09:28.500 is not that she brought the president's 13 year old son into the mix. She shouldn't have done that.

00:09:35.380 It's just how totally lame that joke was. It was such a reach. It was such a stretch. If the pun's

00:09:42.620 not going to work, just leave, let it go. If the joke's not going to work, just let it go. You don't,

00:09:47.500 you don't have to do that. Melania Trump did not like that line. Melania Trump comes out there.

00:09:54.740 She tweets, quote, a minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics.

00:10:01.760 Pamela Carlin, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering and

00:10:06.080 using a child to do it. And she's absolutely right. And I will say as somebody who goes on camera a lot,

00:10:13.840 Pamela Carlin, you should be very embarrassed by how totally lame that pun was. If you're going to

00:10:18.520 try to make a joke in public like that, and you're going to workshop it and write it and be prepared to

00:10:23.920 give it, it should be at least 400% funnier than it was. That was very, very lame and also

00:10:31.300 inappropriate. And she felt it was obviously getting such blowback that she came out and

00:10:36.360 apologized for her earlier remarks during the same testimony. I want to apologize for what I said

00:10:45.280 earlier about the president's son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize

00:10:51.260 obviously for the things that he's done that's wrong, but I do regret having said that.

00:10:55.920 Thank you, professor.

00:10:58.260 That's not an apology. That's not how you do an apology. When you do an apology, you don't say,

00:11:04.800 hey, I'm really sorry that I did this, but really that big jerk made me do it anyway. But anyway,

00:11:09.160 I'm really sorry. It's like an abusive husband doesn't, doesn't say, oh, I'm really sorry that I

00:11:14.480 physically harmed you. I mean, you did, you did burn the pot roast. So let's try to keep that in mind.

00:11:19.440 I wish you didn't burn the pot roast. But anyway, I'm really sorry. It's not an apology. But even

00:11:25.240 more than that, this wasn't a line that she just came up with in the moment, right? This was a,

00:11:32.500 it wasn't just some flippant thing that she said. She obviously had thought about this. It's such a

00:11:39.820 weird, stretchy, lame pun. She obviously was workshopping this when she was preparing her testimony.

00:11:45.700 She was probably workshopping it in the, the bathroom mirror in the morning. That's fine. People

00:11:51.500 do that when they're speaking in public, but it wasn't some spur of the moment. I'm sorry. I got

00:11:55.420 carried away. I don't know what I was thinking. She, she said it. I mean, she, she wrote it. She

00:12:01.480 planned it. It was, and then she got blowback and then she had to apologize. So really bad. I think

00:12:06.500 the worst part of the day for Democrats in terms of their top witnesses was this woman. She just

00:12:14.020 didn't, she didn't make the case for impeachment terribly well, nothing that we hadn't heard

00:12:17.860 before. And I think she really damaged Democrats' credibility. But it did get a whole lot worse

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00:14:10.360 at netsuite.com slash Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S. The next guy they call up is this professor Noah Feldman.

00:14:22.060 Noah Feldman somehow was even more leftist than the last professor, Pamela Carlin, though he didn't

00:14:28.840 step in it quite as much as she did. Feldman tried to play his partisanship a little bit closer to the

00:14:33.580 vest. He's a Harvard law professor, a big liberal. I mean, he's gotten all sorts of plaudits from the

00:14:39.220 left-wing media and the left-wing public intellectual sphere. I think that's almost a contradiction in

00:14:44.600 terms. But his point, Noah Feldman's point, is that President Trump must cooperate with the

00:14:52.640 congressional Democrats' impeachment probe. He must cooperate. If he's not cooperating, he's breaking

00:14:57.900 the law. The job of the House is to investigate impeachment and to impeach. A president who says,

00:15:04.040 as this president did say, I will not cooperate in any way, shape or form with your process,

00:15:10.480 robs a coordinate branch of government. He robs the House of Representatives of its basic

00:15:15.460 constitutional power of impeachment. When you add to that the fact that the same president says,

00:15:21.060 my Department of Justice cannot charge me with a crime, the president puts himself above the law

00:15:27.320 when he says he will not cooperate in an impeachment inquiry. I don't think it's possible

00:15:31.660 to emphasize this strongly enough. A president who will not cooperate in an impeachment inquiry

00:15:37.320 is putting himself above the law. Now, putting yourself above the law as president is the core of

00:15:43.740 an impeachable offense because if the president could not be impeached for that, he would in fact

00:15:48.580 not be responsible to anybody. This is such BS with respect to Professor Feldman. This is such BS,

00:15:56.300 but it's what not only the Democrats are trying to do in this impeachment inquiry or impeachment

00:16:01.300 hearings now, it's what the left has been trying to do for a very long time. The president not just

00:16:06.580 giving the Democrats and Congress everything that they want is not a violation of the law. It's not

00:16:12.260 an impeachable offense. It's not putting himself above the law. What it's doing is saying that the

00:16:16.780 president is not subservient to Congress, which is a very important aspect of our government. Our

00:16:22.700 constitutional structure says that we have three co-equal branches of government. What the left has

00:16:28.100 wanted to do for a long time is have the president be subservient to the legislature. They want the

00:16:34.720 executive subservient to the legislature, just like you have in Britain, just like you have in a lot of

00:16:40.080 governments around the world. You have parliamentary supremacy, that they get to control the

00:16:44.360 executive, but that's not how it works here. We have three co-equal branches of government. This

00:16:48.620 is an important aspect of this whole impeachment circus because what the way that that will all

00:16:55.240 work, the way that you can have these two co-equal branches, the president and the legislature is if

00:16:59.800 there's some role for the judiciary. And what the left and the Democrats are trying to say is there's

00:17:03.660 no role for the judiciary whatsoever in the impeachment inquiry, but there is, there's a major role.

00:17:10.000 The constitution set up a major role for the judiciary. That's why the, the chief justice of

00:17:14.540 the Supreme court presides over the impeachment trial. Should it get to that point in the Senate,

00:17:20.460 there is a role here for the judiciary and professor Feldman doesn't want to accept that or admit that

00:17:28.720 because it would complicate matters for the Democrats. We have an incredibly partisan impeachment

00:17:35.200 going on right now. Only Democrats and, you know, a couple of their independent so-called

00:17:41.280 supporters are pushing for this. No Republicans are pushing for this. The Republicans are uniformly

00:17:47.720 opposing it. The president has absolutely no obligation to go along with this ridiculous

00:17:52.940 partisan charade because if the, the Congress, if the Democrats are allowed to impeach the president

00:17:59.100 over nothing simply because they don't like the cut of his jib, they think he's a bad president,

00:18:04.160 they want to oust him. You have in that case destroyed the separation of powers. You've

00:18:09.820 destroyed the co-equal branches of government. You now have parliamentary supremacy, congressional

00:18:13.960 supremacy, and an executive that is subservient to them. Feldman was pretty good at playing his

00:18:19.400 partisanship close to his vest, even though he was making pretty, pretty bad arguments, but he kind

00:18:25.140 of lost it a little bit when in his zeal to present himself as an unbiased expert, he told a lie.

00:18:32.060 He said that he was a skeptic of impeachment until he saw the transcript from the July 25th phone

00:18:38.480 call with Ukraine. Then he knew that this president's simply got to go, except representative Matt

00:18:45.440 Gates pointed out that that just isn't true. Until this call in July 25th, I was an impeachment

00:18:51.760 skeptic. The call changed my mind, sir. And for good reason. Thank you. I appreciate you. Right. Except he

00:18:56.540 didn't. Except he didn't. So you hear him say that very clearly to Matt Gates. He says, I was an impeachment

00:19:00.660 skeptic and then I changed my mind. Not true. Long before that July 25th phone call, Professor

00:19:06.440 Feldman was writing op-eds in which he said, the president is committing impeachable offenses.

00:19:13.260 Has no bearing on whether or not the Ukraine call was impeachable. Actually has no bearing on whether

00:19:17.560 the, the earlier alleged offenses are impeachable. But what it is to say is that Noah Feldman has been

00:19:23.460 pushing for impeachment for a long time. He's been pushing for impeachment, impeachment before the July 25th

00:19:30.660 came out. And he lied during his testimony, a blatant lie, a demonstrable lie. He lied and lost what I would

00:19:39.380 say is a lot of his credibility. Then you had the boring guy. We won't spend too much time on him. His name is

00:19:43.800 Michael Gerhart. He's from UNC School of Law. Gerhart, same thing, orange man bad, got to impeach him. The record

00:19:50.340 compiled thus far shows the president has committed several impeachable offenses including bribery, abuse of

00:19:57.620 power and soliciting a personal favor from a foreign leader to benefit himself personally, obstructing

00:20:04.260 justice and obstructing Congress. Our hearing today should serve as a reminder of one of the fundamental

00:20:11.940 principles that drove the founders of our constitution to break from England and to draft their own

00:20:20.500 constitution. The principle that in this country, no one is king. We have followed that principle since

00:20:28.260 before the founding of the constitution and it is recognized around the world as a fixed inspiring

00:20:34.580 American ideal. Oh, I'm sorry. All right. Is he done? He's done speaking now. Okay, that's fine. So

00:20:41.180 same, nothing terribly interesting here. And that's important because the purpose of these expert

00:20:47.500 witnesses is not to get more facts. The Democrats have already made their decision. They're going to

00:20:52.940 impeach him for whatever crime they can try to even pretend he committed. The purpose of these expert

00:20:58.160 witnesses is to convince the public. And I think Gerhart's testimony was important because it just showed

00:21:03.660 they had nothing. It was wasted testimony. It's nothing that is really being talked about. I also

00:21:08.560 want to correct Gerhart and the first lady, Pamela Carlin. They talk about how the founders hated kings

00:21:16.300 and Trump's not a king and the king is basically like a tin pot dictator. That just simply isn't true

00:21:23.120 about kings. First of all, some of our founding fathers did want a king. Alexander Hamilton pretty much

00:21:27.980 wanted to make George Washington a king. Kings were not just tin pot dictators in the, you know,

00:21:36.360 Caribbean or something like that. There actually is quite a lot to monarchy and there are limits to

00:21:41.120 monarchy. And anyway, it's just indicative of how much they are trying to oversimplify and misrepresent

00:21:47.640 the facts, not only about President Trump, but even about history and the constitution. Fortunately,

00:21:53.080 there was one law professor who gave testimony, who in a very measured way, without the hysterics,

00:22:01.260 without the emotion, without yelling and screaming and bringing in Baron Trump about it,

00:22:06.640 very calmly wrecked all of the previous arguments. We will get to that professor in a second.

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00:24:31.780 their arguments. What I would caution the committee is that these crimes have meaning. It gives me no joy

00:24:41.460 to disagree with my colleagues here, and I really don't have a dog in this fight. But you can't accuse

00:24:51.320 a president of bribery. And then when some of us note that the Supreme Court has rejected your type

00:24:58.280 of boundless interpretation, say, well, it's just impeachment. We really don't have to prove the

00:25:04.440 elements. That's a favorite mantra that is sort of close enough for jazz. Well, this isn't

00:25:12.000 improvisational jazz. Close enough is not good enough. If you're going to accuse a president

00:25:16.960 of bribery, you need to make it stick, because you're trying to remove a duly elected president

00:25:24.240 of the United States. Now, it's unfair to accuse someone of a crime, and when others say, well,

00:25:32.820 those interpretations you're using to define the crime are not valid, and to say they don't have

00:25:38.200 to be valid, because this is impeachment. That has not been the standard historically.

00:25:45.360 This is such a great point, and it shows you the goalposts constantly moving, right? They say,

00:25:51.560 the president committed bribery. And you go out there and say, no, he really didn't. And you can

00:25:55.760 look through the history of ratifying the Constitution. You can look through exactly what

00:26:01.240 bribery meant at the time. You can look through what bribery means today. Nowhere does what President

00:26:06.260 Trump did even come close to any recognizable definition of bribery, and the Democrats say,

00:26:11.520 yes, so what? So what? We're the Congress. We can do whatever we want. It doesn't matter if he

00:26:15.760 committed bribery. You say, okay, that's a legitimate argument to make. I mean, it's an illegitimate

00:26:20.440 constitutional argument, but it's a legitimate political argument to make. That's fine. But then

00:26:24.760 don't pretend you're impeaching him for bribery, because you're not, and you're admitting that you're

00:26:27.800 not. You're just moving the goalposts. By the way, Jonathan Turley, he's not some conservative

00:26:32.200 Republican. The guy is a liberal law professor. He's a professor at GW. Politico called him a

00:26:39.440 liberal law professor and civil libertarian. This guy called for the prosecution of Bush

00:26:46.020 administration officials for war crimes, okay? He's no friend to Republicans. He voted against

00:26:51.100 Trump in 2016, but even he knows this is bogus and it's totally out of line with historical precedent.

00:26:57.700 Jonathan Turley testified during the impeachment of Bill Clinton. This guy knows a thing or two

00:27:03.360 about the history of impeachment, and he says this is totally out of the historical line.

00:27:09.160 If you, my testimony lays out the criminal allegations in the previous impeachments,

00:27:14.580 those were not just proven crimes. They were accepted crimes. That is, even the Democrats on that

00:27:23.980 judiciary, that the judiciary committee agreed that Bill Clinton had committed perjury. That's on the

00:27:30.220 record. And there, and a federal judge later said it was perjury. Right. That's the history. By the way,

00:27:36.940 we haven't used, we haven't used impeachment a whole lot, which is why we've got to be very,

00:27:42.020 very careful about this. It's only the fourth, fourth time we've gone into this with a president.

00:27:47.020 And we had Andrew Johnson, then Richard Nixon, then Bill Clinton, now Trump. No president has ever

00:27:52.540 been removed from office through impeachment because he was impeached and then convicted. It has not

00:27:57.780 happened. We've got to be very, very careful about this. Turley then goes out there and gives the final

00:28:04.680 best line of the whole day. He, he summed up what was really going on. They, they mentioned that

00:28:13.620 President Trump has to be removed because of an abuse of power. Turley turns it around and he says,

00:28:20.160 there is an abuse of power going on. Your abuse of power. If you make a high crime and misdemeanor

00:28:28.160 out of going to the courts, it is an abuse of power. It's your abuse of power.

00:28:35.720 There it is. Your abuse of power, Congress. You are abusing your power, your power of impeachment

00:28:41.840 here. There is no basis in reality. By the way, do you know who would back up Jonathan Turley on this

00:28:46.900 point? On pretty much all the points he just made? Jerry Nadler. Jerry Nadler, the guy who's

00:28:53.540 presiding over the whole democratic impeachment process. Jerry Nadler would back him up. And he

00:28:58.520 actually did back in the nineties when it was Bill Clinton who was being impeached. Here's Nadler.

00:29:04.200 The effect of impeachment is to overturn the popular will of the voters as expressed in a national

00:29:09.900 election. We must not overturn an election and remove a president from office except to defend our

00:29:17.300 very system of government or our constitutional liberties against a dire threat. And we must not

00:29:23.540 do so without an overwhelming consensus of the American people and of their representatives in

00:29:29.180 Congress of the absolute necessity. There must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or an impeachment

00:29:36.820 which has been substantially supported by one of our major political parties and largely opposed by the

00:29:42.600 other. Such an impeachment would lack legitimacy, would produce divisiveness and bitterness in our

00:29:48.560 politics for years to come, and will call into question the very legitimacy of our political

00:29:54.440 institutions. The American people have heard all the allegations against the president and they

00:30:01.120 overwhelmingly oppose impeaching him. The people elected the president. They still support him.

00:30:08.800 We have no right to overturn the considered judgment of the American people.

00:30:14.860 Ding, ding, ding. You got it, Jerry. You bet. Absolutely right. I wish that Jerry Nadler

00:30:20.080 was showing up to preside over the impeachment hearings because that Jerry Nadler had it completely right.

00:30:26.780 And the current Jerry Nadler, like all the other hacks in his party trying to impeach him,

00:30:31.080 are making absolutely opposite and specious arguments now. We will get to what this means

00:30:35.540 for Joe Biden, big trouble. We will get to Justin Trudeau on a hot mic. We will even get to

00:30:40.240 a transgender meltdown and the mailbag. But first, I got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube.

00:30:45.200 By the way, this, this weekend in theaters nationwide, this Friday, you can go and check out

00:30:50.720 Safe Spaces. Friday, December 6th, starring Adam Carolla and Dennis Prager. No Safe Spaces

00:30:57.020 is in theaters. It's a terrific movie. I went to the premiere here in Hollywood. You got to go

00:31:01.860 check it out. Adam and Dennis take you on a wild ride to show you the effects of political correctness,

00:31:07.160 identity politics, and cancel culture. The film takes you through the impact on college campuses,

00:31:12.680 big tech, and Hollywood. No Safe Spaces argues that free speech is important to a free society.

00:31:19.700 It shows you how it's being threatened, what we can do to fight back. It is not your typical

00:31:25.060 documentary. It is super fun. It's got animation. It's got recreations. It's got a lot of Adam's

00:31:30.920 signature humor to help all of this truth be illuminated. It takes you behind the scenes at

00:31:37.880 Shapiro's crazy UC Berkeley tour. And if that weren't enough, there's a little cameo from Jeremy

00:31:45.620 Boring God King, The Daily Wire in there. And most importantly of all, I am in the film. I am in

00:31:50.800 the film. It's a little Easter egg. For one moment, you can see me. See if you can catch where I am in

00:31:56.320 the movie. It is going to be really, really fun. So go check it out. It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:32:02.100 No Safe Spaces rated PG-13 in theaters Friday, December 6th. The way that you can go check that

00:32:07.400 out is nosafespaces.com slash Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S for ticket information and theater locations.

00:32:12.980 It's going to be a lot of fun. It's a really, really good film. So go check it out. You know

00:32:17.080 what you get? 10 bucks a month, $100 for an annual membership. I think we actually just raised prices

00:32:21.460 a little bit. So look, it's worth it, folks. We're giving you a whole lot of stuff. Me, Ben, Drew,

00:32:26.580 Matt Walsh. We've got another kingdom on there, the third and final season.

00:32:30.420 We've got the Leftist Tears Tumblr. Dailywire.com. We'll be right back with a lot more.

00:32:46.400 Democrats are really bungling this impeachment thing, not just the testimony, but the fact

00:32:51.040 that if this goes to a trial, Joe Biden is going to have to testify. Biden's already saying that he

00:32:57.560 won't come to testify, but then they're trying to make the argument that Trump has to go

00:33:00.400 testify. Trump has to cooperate. But Joe Biden, who is a key figure in the whole impeachment probe

00:33:06.560 regarding Ukraine, he says that he won't testify. I think when they started impeachment, Democrats

00:33:12.540 were convinced that Biden wasn't going to be their nominee. Trouble is all of the people they thought

00:33:16.800 were going to be their nominees have now fallen apart. So it looks like it very well could be Joe

00:33:22.080 Biden. If he's the nominee, this is going to be a disaster for them because they're going to dredge up

00:33:26.380 all of his dirt. They're going to dredge up Hunter Biden. They're going to dredge up all

00:33:30.380 the corruption that Joe engaged in. It could really seriously backfire for Democrats, which

00:33:35.140 is why I think there's a chance they don't even impeach him. They don't let it get to that level.

00:33:39.460 But it will be a lot of fun if they do. On the other side of liberal politics, up in America's

00:33:45.300 hat over in Canada, Justin Trudeau was just caught on a hot mic making fun of the president. This

00:33:51.640 doesn't seem like a huge deal, but it actually does tell you something about the world leaders

00:33:56.040 and about Trump. Here he is. So he says, why is he late? Trudeau says he was late because he takes

00:34:05.980 a 40 minute press conference. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's talking about Donald Trump. He takes a 40

00:34:10.300 minute press conference. I've watched his team's jaws just drop to the floor. Ha, ha, ha. Chatting with

00:34:19.200 Boris Johnson and Emmanuel Macron. Trump comes out and naturally just slams Justin Trudeau for

00:34:26.620 this. Do you have a video of Prime Minister Trudeau talking about you last time? Well, he's too fast.

00:34:35.160 Do you think that Germany's too naive? And honestly, with Trudeau, he's a nice guy. I find him to be a very nice guy. But you know, the truth is that

00:34:41.920 I called him out on the fact that he's not paying 2%. And I guess he's not very happy about it. I mean,

00:34:48.600 you were there. A couple of you were there. And he's not paying 2%. And he should be paying 2%. It's Canada.

00:34:54.260 They have money. And they should be paying 2%. So I called him out on that. And I'm sure he wasn't

00:34:59.120 happy about it. But that's the way it is. Look, I'm representing the U.S.

00:35:03.480 And he should be paying more than he's paying. And he understands that. So I can imagine, I can imagine he's

00:35:10.080 not that happy, but that's the way it is. Two key aspects here. He calls Trudeau two-faced.

00:35:16.520 And he says, look, it's the way it is. I represent the U.S. This is why people love Trump. This is why

00:35:22.620 people love Trump. It's because every politician is two-faced, duplicitous, sniveling, stab you in the

00:35:29.080 back. And Trump will stab you in the front. Trump is pretty direct. He doesn't hide his disdain for

00:35:38.480 people if they've crossed him. He doesn't play nice to their face and then behind their back go

00:35:44.160 and attack them. He'll attack them right out in the open. Maybe people don't like when he's that

00:35:50.340 combative, that mean. But they do like that he's blunt, that he's honest, that he'll tell you what

00:35:55.460 he means. What you see is what you get. And he comes out there and he says, I represent the United

00:36:00.040 States. Love me, hate me. I'm telling you where I stand. That is a breath of fresh air in politics.

00:36:05.040 And it's, it's manlier and it's more virtuous. I know it's odd to use the word virtue when it comes

00:36:10.160 to a thrice married lapsed Presbyterian, but it is, that is a real virtue. And the more sort of

00:36:18.240 sniveling leftists try to, try to unseat Trump. I think that that difference is going to be really,

00:36:26.660 really clear. Before we get to the mailbag, I have to mention this crazy story in Olympia,

00:36:31.420 Washington. Last month, the city council met and they were scolded, screamed at by transgender

00:36:35.920 activists. Even though the city council was paying tribute to them on trans remembrance day,

00:36:42.980 the, the transgender activists were, were furious anyway, for some reason. And one of the activists,

00:36:48.680 a guy named Amy Hart claimed that the police officers shouldn't, shouldn't be in the room.

00:36:54.260 The very fact that they had police officers there was an offense to transgender people because they

00:36:58.480 quote, kill trans families and make it unsafe to live. Here's the meltdown.

00:37:03.180 And you are telling me you're going to light up city hall to honor black and brown trans women.

00:37:11.160 You're going to light up a city hall that has police and police are a part of the problem.

00:37:16.920 They kill my families. They make it unsafe to live.

00:37:25.020 I'm a tranny suffering in the conditions you create for us to not live in this city.

00:37:30.380 Um, I want to say that I am a person that values, uh, hearing out people's pain and talking to their

00:37:40.700 hearts. And I feel like the people here at city hall, they don't do that. You with people's hearts,

00:37:46.400 you create illusions, point of order. I'm going to ask that you refrain.

00:37:50.320 I mean, this is broadcast live out in people's homes with families, young families.

00:37:55.020 Again, my point is like, like, you didn't, you didn't care what I just said, which proves my point.

00:38:02.120 You're not listening to my frustration and pain, having to deal with people like you who are worried

00:38:08.420 about what I'm saying instead of like, or how I'm saying instead of what I'm saying.

00:38:12.140 Um, obviously this is completely insane. What they're, they're saying that the cops are

00:38:16.800 targeting transgender people and killing them and making it impossible to live. There's just

00:38:21.220 no evidence of this whatsoever. This is not true, but I'm not going to make fun of these guys or,

00:38:28.620 or attack them in any way because obviously they've got a couple problems. All right. They've got some,

00:38:35.340 if you're a man who thinks that you're a woman, you've got some things kind of going on in your

00:38:39.060 psychology that mean maybe it's not all quite right. Right. And how this would traditionally

00:38:45.400 have been dealt with by society is with compassion, with empathy and saying, okay, they're there. It's

00:38:50.920 all right. You know, get it out. Maybe some therapy, maybe whatever. Try to, try to ameliorate the

00:38:55.740 condition. Now, however, we treat this, the fantasy, we treat the delusion, we treat the insanity

00:39:02.020 as though it were reality. That's the trouble. That's very disconcerting for everybody. It doesn't

00:39:09.040 help them. Look, they've obviously got a lot of psychological turmoil here. You would too,

00:39:13.200 if you were a man who thought that you were a woman, but to indulge all of this means you,

00:39:17.860 you don't make it any better. You just have the fantasies and the delusions become worse and worse

00:39:23.120 and worse. And this is true, not just on the human, the personal and psychological level.

00:39:28.100 This is true socially and politically as well. Even when you get to a topic like impeachment,

00:39:33.140 impeachment, the more you indulge this, this madness, orange man, bad, impeach him at all costs,

00:39:39.600 which Democrats have been saying since before he even took office.

00:39:43.440 That doesn't make things better. That doesn't pacify people. That doesn't unite people.

00:39:47.340 It only gets worse and worse and worse. And you have to start believing crazier and crazier things

00:39:52.080 that there's no legal basis for impeachment, that the president committed bribery, except even if he

00:39:57.280 didn't commit bribery, it doesn't matter anyway, because we're going to, you just have to get

00:40:00.740 crazier and crazier and crazier. People don't like that. People feel on edge. People feel anxious

00:40:05.460 when you do that. We prefer order. Order is better. It makes everyone feel at ease. It's

00:40:12.460 the reason why when you get online at a grocery store or something, people will wait in line for

00:40:16.940 35 minutes. But if someone cuts that line, everyone starts to lose their mind because that order is

00:40:22.040 gone. There doesn't seem to be any reason, any sense, any logic. We are at risk of losing that as a

00:40:28.020 society. We need to privilege, reason, logic, order, a measured society, both at the personal

00:40:35.000 level, like people who are screaming and having a fit here at a city council meeting, and at the

00:40:40.920 political and social level. Maybe it doesn't mean you get exactly what you want. You get to fulfill

00:40:45.120 your personal appetite or desire or your political appetite or desire. But in the long run, that is

00:40:49.980 the only sort of society that we're all going to be able to live in comfortably. Let's get to the

00:40:53.740 mailbag in our remaining moments from Alex. Dear Michael, history buff of the Daily Wire.

00:40:59.320 A professor of mine recently gave me, gave a talk on the book Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond.

00:41:05.720 The story cited is used as evidence that the Europeans purposefully spread smallpox among the

00:41:10.580 Native Americans by giving them the blankets of smallpox victims. Do you know of any other stories

00:41:16.760 like this, or is it an example of a gross overgeneralization by a left-wing historian? Any

00:41:21.320 thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. You know, the stories of giving Native

00:41:26.840 Americans smallpox blankets are exaggerated and they only happened in limited circumstances, but it

00:41:32.740 did happen. I mean, during Pontiac's rebellion, right after the French and Indian War, the British did

00:41:40.680 give Native American belligerents smallpox blankets, and I believe it did work. I mean, you call it an

00:41:46.460 early form of chemical warfare. That's true, but what, what people leave out of that discussion is

00:41:53.120 the warfare part of it. It's not like the Native Americans were sitting there, you know, eating

00:41:56.740 corn on the cob and being very peaceable, and the British came in because they're mean and wanted to

00:42:01.480 wipe them out. During Pontiac's rebellion, the Indians killed 2,000 civilians, 2,000 civilians, men,

00:42:08.940 women, and children, and they killed 400 soldiers. They were at war, and so the British fought back as

00:42:14.660 they could, but they gave them the diseased blankets and hoped that it would work, and in some cases it

00:42:20.120 did work. The narrative that the left wants to present of indigenous peoples or any sort of peoples

00:42:26.620 that Europeans engage with as totally peaceful, totally naive. They had no idea what war was. They

00:42:33.180 had no idea what conflict was. It's historically ridiculous, but worse than that, it robs these people

00:42:41.500 of their dignity, all right? The Indians had dignity. They fought good wars, all right? They, they fought

00:42:47.140 pretty hard. They were able to kill 2,000 people in Pontiac's rebellion, 2,000 civilians, and 400

00:42:51.820 soldiers, and then the British fought back against them, all right? This was an actual conflict, and, and

00:42:58.920 to say otherwise, it just, ironically, it, it dehumanizes the indigenous people and the Native Americans,

00:43:06.240 which is exactly what they accused the conservatives and the British and the settlers of doing. All

00:43:11.580 right, from Brian, I would love to hear your thoughts on the Spanish-American War. Thanks.

00:43:19.360 We could talk about this forever. It's a very important war that nobody remembers. Nobody talks

00:43:25.700 about the Spanish-American War or the War of 1812, a number of wars that get lost, Korean conflict.

00:43:30.600 But Spanish-American War was very, very important. The Spanish-American War set America on the course

00:43:37.900 of empire. So we fight the war. We get territories from Spain, Guam, Puerto Rico, Cuba, the Philippines.

00:43:45.360 All of a sudden, the U.S. has an empire, an empire that we didn't have before the Spanish-American

00:43:51.720 War. Now, this had certain bad effects. I mean, I guess you could ask, would Fidel Castro have ever

00:43:59.620 risen up in Cuba if Spain had maintained control over it? Well, Spain might have lost control at some

00:44:05.020 point. How about all the corruption in Puerto Rico right now? How about the dictatorship in the

00:44:09.680 Philippines? What would the effect be on America if America didn't pursue this imperial ambition? I think

00:44:15.360 that's kind of all idle speculation. I don't think it's really worth paying attention to. Rather than engage

00:44:21.480 in historical what-ifs, just look for the significance. The Spanish-American War was incredibly

00:44:27.160 significant, and a lot of our imperial ambitions here can be traced back to, a lot of our imperial

00:44:33.680 circumstances can be traced back to that conflict. From Aidan, as the resident papist, how do you

00:44:39.380 defend the ideas of purgatory, infant baptism, and the common wafer being used, or being the body of

00:44:46.360 Christ, from the heretical God-King? Thanks for the humorous and somewhat informative show. All right,

00:44:53.240 well, in our last moments here, you want me to defend the Catholic faith? All right. It's specifically

00:44:57.780 against my boss who signs my checks. Okay, great idea. Thanks very much. We do it all, you know, we

00:45:02.220 engage in religious discussions all the time here because you've got the Protestant God-King, you've got

00:45:09.240 the lowercase g, lowercase k, by the way, important for this discussion. You've got the Anglican Andrew

00:45:14.420 Clavin, you've got the Orthodox Jew, Ben, and you have the papist, me, and Matt Walsh, by the way, who's

00:45:20.000 not in LA, but we talked to him too. Very quickly, purgatory. You see purgatory in, scripturally, in

00:45:27.500 Second Maccabees, where they pray for the dead. Why would you pray for the dead if it's already

00:45:31.820 decided where they're going? Because there is some sort of purgatorial period in place. Matthew 5,

00:45:37.580 Christ tells us, the judge will put you into prison until you have paid the last cent, meaning you can get

00:45:43.240 out of this prison, whatever this prison is. Matthew 12 describes forgiveness, both in this age and in

00:45:49.800 the age to come, but if there's forgiveness in the age to come, that means that there is some sort of

00:45:54.340 purgatory. You also see this kind of imagery in 1 Corinthians and in 1 Peter, in the image of the

00:46:00.900 purifying fire, not the punishing fire of hell, but the purifying fire of purgatory. Infant baptism, we see

00:46:07.280 infant baptism actually a fair bit in scripture. Matthew 19, Christ says, let the children come to me.

00:46:13.240 Let the children come to me, not just the adults who can make a statement of faith. Luke 18 says,

00:46:19.080 now they were bringing even infants to Christ. And then in Colossians, Paul says that baptism has

00:46:25.660 replaced the circumcision. Circumcision occurs when you're a little baby. Baptism can too. And in Acts

00:46:31.380 16, you see whole households baptized, including the infants. It doesn't say whole households were

00:46:37.220 baptized except for people under the age of 15 or something, whole households entirely. So there's a

00:46:44.140 lot of evidence for that. The Eucharist, the wafer as the body and blood of Christ. In Luke 22, Christ

00:46:50.600 says, this is my body. The bread is my body. This is the institution of the Eucharist. John 6,

00:46:57.880 Christ says, my body is true food. My flesh is true drink. This is a hard saying, by the way,

00:47:02.880 because people run away from him when he says this. It's too hard. And he says, will you run away from

00:47:08.260 me to Peter? And Peter says, to whom shall we go? Christ says, I am the bread of life. Unless you eat

00:47:13.020 the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. And of course, in Matthew 26,

00:47:19.020 he tells us to do it. Take, eat, this is my body. The language is so clear, so precise, such an admittedly

00:47:25.500 hard saying that it would seem very clear. And then how do we know to interpret scripture in this way

00:47:31.940 rather than in any of the zillion other ways you could? Usually the Protestant argument is sola

00:47:37.600 scriptura, that scripture is formally sufficient to our salvation. And this is ironically not a scriptural

00:47:48.400 idea. You can look in scripture and see that sola scriptura is not sufficient. You see it in second

00:47:56.360 Thessalonians. So you hear, so then brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught

00:48:03.800 by us, either by word of mouth or by letter. So right there, the apostle says, hold fast to what we've told

00:48:13.000 you by letter in scripture, in writing, but also what we've told you by word of mouth. And that gets

00:48:19.560 to, of course, the institution of the church and the authority of the church, which we see at the

00:48:23.140 Council of Jerusalem and many other places. I think that was a three minute defense of the Catholic

00:48:28.640 faith. If the God King doesn't fire me, I'll be back here on Monday. In the meantime, I'm Michael

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00:49:33.020 Hey everyone, it's Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show. Nancy Pelosi says the Democrats

00:49:36.580 are going to go ahead and draw up impeachment charges because of whatever the hell they've

00:49:40.860 been talking about this time. But wait till you hear who their legal experts are and some of the

00:49:45.700 stuff they believe. Seriously, you will not believe it. It's on The Andrew Klavan Show. I'm Andrew Klavan.

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