The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 47 - F for Flake： Is Trump RINO Repellant？

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00:00:35.280 Bob Corker and Jeff Flake,

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00:00:39.240 takes another hit.

00:00:40.620 Then, Hollywood culture and blogging icon Perez Hilton

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00:00:48.780 Finally, Allie Stuckey, Ariel Davidson, and Emily Butler

00:00:51.960 join the panel of deplorables

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00:00:56.940 that she accused 93-year-old wheelchair-bound

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00:01:03.560 The latest details in Democrats' collusion with Russia

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00:01:09.640 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:04:17.760 Now we got to bring on Perez Hilton.

00:04:19.760 Perez, man,

00:04:20.420 thank you so much for being here.

00:04:22.580 Hello.

00:04:23.020 Happy to be here.

00:04:23.720 So for those of you,

00:04:25.120 and unfortunately I can't hear Perez right now,

00:04:26.940 so hopefully in the control room

00:04:27.980 they'll figure that out.

00:04:29.340 Perez Hilton is the most prominent blogger

00:04:31.700 in Hollywood history.

00:04:33.020 He doesn't need an introduction,

00:04:34.240 but I'll give him one anyway.

00:04:35.900 Really, he was one of the first bloggers, period.

00:04:38.600 Certainly the biggest one out here in La La Land.

00:04:40.580 Now Hollywood is crumbling grope by grope,

00:04:43.760 and we are lucky to have the number one expert

00:04:46.200 on behind-the-scenes machinations.

00:04:49.060 Perez, my first question.

00:04:50.800 Is this the end for Hollywood?

00:04:52.200 I definitely don't think that everything that's happened

00:04:55.680 as the result of this Harvey Weinstein scandal

00:04:59.640 will very negatively impact Hollywood.

00:05:03.700 You know, Hollywood is a very forgiving town.

00:05:07.280 I don't think that he will be able to have a comeback.

00:05:10.620 What I do think will happen as a result of this is

00:05:13.220 we as a world and a community here in Los Angeles

00:05:18.000 are now creating a culture where we're letting women know

00:05:22.700 that it is okay for them to speak out,

00:05:26.140 that they will be supported,

00:05:27.580 that they will be heard, understood, and believed.

00:05:30.920 Do you think, though, I mean,

00:05:33.220 obviously people are pouring out,

00:05:35.260 there's this bandwagon now that Harvey Weinstein

00:05:37.880 has been exposed, formerly the biggest guy in town.

00:05:40.880 Now he's being run out on a rail.

00:05:43.160 But is it just a bandwagon?

00:05:46.520 I mean, I notice people aren't naming

00:05:47.980 a whole lot of other names right now.

00:05:49.880 Does that culture where you're afraid

00:05:51.460 of saying the wrong thing about the powerful people,

00:05:55.400 does that still persist?

00:05:57.100 Does this, it's not even a casting couch,

00:05:58.700 it's like way sleazier than a casting couch.

00:06:01.600 Is that, is this just we kicked a guy

00:06:03.560 while he was already falling out of power?

00:06:05.660 Or is the culture of Hollywood actually changing?

00:06:08.720 Well, I pay very close attention

00:06:10.920 to everything happening.

00:06:11.980 And I see the opposite happening.

00:06:13.780 I've seen over the last couple of weeks,

00:06:16.760 many other women and men come forward

00:06:20.620 sharing their very personal stories

00:06:24.100 about similar experiences.

00:06:25.800 You know, there was this very well-known

00:06:28.800 Oscar-nominated director

00:06:30.660 whom recently over 190 women came forward

00:06:35.780 and said, he did all of these inappropriate things to me.

00:06:40.060 There was a Hollywood talent agent,

00:06:42.320 a man who was very inappropriate

00:06:45.180 towards his male client and others in that world.

00:06:49.140 And it's a smaller scale.

00:06:51.240 Things like this have been happening as well,

00:06:53.740 not just in Hollywood,

00:06:55.920 but in other industries as well.

00:06:58.400 I don't think this is a problem

00:06:59.980 that is exclusive to show business.

00:07:02.960 It might not be exclusive.

00:07:04.880 It's certainly amplified,

00:07:07.100 even just because we're all watching it.

00:07:09.140 You know, I mean, we,

00:07:09.860 this is an industry where the,

00:07:12.780 the currency of the industry are people.

00:07:15.220 You know, when you, when you cast

00:07:16.800 or when you audition for a role,

00:07:18.640 the product is you.

00:07:19.800 So obviously there's a natural intimacy

00:07:21.900 where lines can be blurred,

00:07:24.320 but you do, I mean,

00:07:25.020 you pay as much attention to this place

00:07:27.020 as anybody, probably much more.

00:07:29.800 Is there another shoe that's going to drop?

00:07:31.400 Are there other big players

00:07:33.060 that are going to fall,

00:07:34.040 other big institutions

00:07:34.960 like the Weinstein Company?

00:07:36.640 Is this the,

00:07:37.240 is this the end of this scandal

00:07:39.140 or is it only the beginning?

00:07:40.400 Um, I definitely don't think

00:07:43.860 it's the end of this scandal.

00:07:46.000 I think that there will continue

00:07:48.880 to be developments along the way.

00:07:51.160 I mean, just today,

00:07:52.640 there were reports

00:07:53.640 that the Weinstein Company

00:07:55.520 may have to file for bankruptcy,

00:07:58.560 reports which I should add,

00:07:59.900 they are denying.

00:08:01.480 But there have been reports

00:08:02.880 and accusations

00:08:03.760 against Harvey Weinstein's brother.

00:08:06.140 The Harvey specific story

00:08:08.460 is one that won't be going away

00:08:10.700 anytime soon.

00:08:12.420 And the repercussions of that

00:08:14.180 throughout show business,

00:08:15.620 I think will be continued

00:08:16.840 to be felt for quite some time.

00:08:19.800 And, you know,

00:08:20.100 I actually give you some credit

00:08:21.860 for all of this.

00:08:22.840 Obviously, it's a, you know,

00:08:23.740 you started doing this

00:08:24.680 over 10 years ago

00:08:26.020 and you were the first big blogger

00:08:28.360 and certainly the first

00:08:29.440 big Hollywood blogger.

00:08:30.520 But you really shone a light

00:08:32.600 in a way that other tabloids

00:08:34.380 didn't really do.

00:08:35.420 I mean, you brought

00:08:36.140 this kind of Hollywood scrutiny

00:08:38.500 and microscope

00:08:39.140 into the internet age.

00:08:40.900 And obviously,

00:08:41.600 there's a lot of entertainment

00:08:42.900 that goes along

00:08:43.580 with that as well.

00:08:44.560 Do you take any of the credit

00:08:46.340 or any of the responsibility

00:08:47.420 for ripping open the veil

00:08:50.880 that covered Hollywood

00:08:52.000 for so long?

00:08:53.540 Not at all.

00:08:54.660 I would give credit

00:08:55.720 first and foremost

00:08:57.800 to Ashley Judge.

00:08:59.400 She was the first major player

00:09:03.000 to speak on the record,

00:09:05.800 to be fearless enough

00:09:07.400 to put herself,

00:09:08.500 her reputation

00:09:09.240 and her career on the line

00:09:10.900 in speaking to the New York Times

00:09:13.040 because they had difficulty

00:09:15.160 getting countless women

00:09:17.300 to speak on the record.

00:09:18.960 And she did.

00:09:20.200 And she really let other women know

00:09:23.280 it's okay to share your story.

00:09:26.260 It's funny.

00:09:28.360 You and I obviously

00:09:29.320 probably have different

00:09:30.400 political views.

00:09:31.520 But when you look,

00:09:32.580 we on the right,

00:09:33.540 we conservatives,

00:09:34.460 we always like to make fun

00:09:35.500 of crazy Hollywood actors

00:09:37.080 and actresses

00:09:38.000 saying wild political

00:09:39.840 activist statements.

00:09:41.000 But then when you look

00:09:42.560 at what some of these people

00:09:43.520 have gone through

00:09:44.240 in their professional lives,

00:09:45.840 a lot of them

00:09:46.320 since they were children,

00:09:47.580 you get a little bit

00:09:48.680 more empathy, I think.

00:09:50.000 And you say,

00:09:50.520 you know,

00:09:50.860 this is a pretty weird town

00:09:53.540 and weird profession.

00:09:55.060 And if it changes your mind

00:09:57.280 and warps your vision of things,

00:09:59.460 you know,

00:10:00.040 there but for the grace of God

00:10:01.180 go I possibly.

00:10:02.780 Ashley Judd is an example

00:10:03.960 because all of we conservatives

00:10:06.600 made fun of her political statements

00:10:08.500 for the last two years.

00:10:10.760 My last question for you,

00:10:12.040 what's the next shoe to drop?

00:10:14.040 What is the next,

00:10:15.060 where is this going?

00:10:16.660 Both the industry

00:10:17.620 and obviously this particular issue

00:10:20.700 of the sexual harassment

00:10:22.520 and sexual assault?

00:10:25.580 I think that

00:10:28.540 it remains to be seen.

00:10:32.620 I actually am a little bit

00:10:34.640 pessimistic.

00:10:36.820 I don't know

00:10:38.060 how much of a change

00:10:41.080 it will have

00:10:41.860 just because

00:10:43.180 by nature

00:10:45.380 there are bad people

00:10:46.800 in this world.

00:10:47.660 And I do believe

00:10:48.960 that this will continue to happen

00:10:50.320 just because

00:10:50.840 there are those

00:10:51.660 that get a taste of power

00:10:53.540 and let it get to their head

00:10:55.640 and they will

00:10:56.640 abuse those underneath them.

00:10:59.720 I mean,

00:10:59.980 one of the other stories

00:11:01.040 about Harvey Weinstein

00:11:02.080 that also resonated to me

00:11:03.640 wasn't that

00:11:04.580 in addition to him

00:11:06.440 sexually harassing

00:11:07.660 all these women

00:11:08.340 according to them

00:11:09.500 was that

00:11:10.640 according to other women

00:11:11.740 he was such a bully

00:11:12.980 that he would bully

00:11:14.400 actresses allegedly

00:11:15.800 to wear his wife

00:11:17.720 Georgina Chapman's clothes.

00:11:19.260 she's a fashion designer.

00:11:21.040 You know,

00:11:21.240 there will always be

00:11:22.540 those bullies.

00:11:23.640 There will always be

00:11:24.420 those higher ups

00:11:25.860 that will treat people

00:11:27.000 beneath them awfully

00:11:28.280 in show business,

00:11:29.660 in politics,

00:11:30.540 across the board.

00:11:31.940 Well,

00:11:32.180 politics is just show business

00:11:33.460 for ugly people

00:11:34.220 as you know.

00:11:35.720 What?

00:11:36.580 Give me that joke.

00:11:38.540 I did.

00:11:39.820 You're right about the bullying

00:11:41.180 and you see it

00:11:41.920 with, you know,

00:11:42.820 a lot of my friends

00:11:43.560 who are working

00:11:44.700 at production houses

00:11:45.500 or working for big agencies

00:11:46.900 or whatever.

00:11:47.740 The stories you hear

00:11:48.780 of like phones

00:11:49.840 being thrown across the room

00:11:51.300 and having to work

00:11:52.340 20 hours straight

00:11:53.460 and it is really vicious

00:11:55.580 and even more so

00:11:56.800 than I think

00:11:57.300 I've heard from my friends

00:11:58.300 in other high pressure fields

00:12:00.120 like finance

00:12:01.020 or maybe politics

00:12:02.720 is the only analog.

00:12:04.400 Is it the narcissism?

00:12:07.160 Is it the vanity

00:12:08.040 that comes along

00:12:09.160 with show business

00:12:09.820 and politics

00:12:10.560 that makes these egos

00:12:12.200 turn so monstrous?

00:12:13.280 No.

00:12:15.300 I think it's the fact

00:12:16.600 that for so long

00:12:17.740 so many people

00:12:18.740 could get away

00:12:19.480 with so much.

00:12:21.080 So much was overlooked.

00:12:22.720 So much was accepted.

00:12:24.580 Oh,

00:12:24.880 they just do that.

00:12:25.960 That's been going on

00:12:27.480 like that forever.

00:12:29.060 Whereas a more

00:12:29.920 corporate environment,

00:12:31.440 a more traditional

00:12:32.320 workplace

00:12:34.600 would not accept

00:12:37.320 and tolerate behavior

00:12:38.440 that is accepted

00:12:39.140 and tolerated

00:12:39.800 in show business

00:12:40.460 or politics.

00:12:41.220 There is a permissiveness.

00:12:42.820 That's true.

00:12:43.360 You wouldn't get it

00:12:44.060 in a lot of other industries

00:12:45.320 where people are

00:12:46.400 a little more grounded in.

00:12:48.400 I make a widget

00:12:49.040 and I sell a widget

00:12:49.920 and then people buy a widget.

00:12:51.380 You know,

00:12:51.620 this where you're,

00:12:52.560 you're,

00:12:53.260 you know,

00:12:53.920 creating the inner life

00:12:54.960 of characters,

00:12:55.920 you're casting people

00:12:57.180 to go from nothing

00:12:58.220 to have the heights

00:12:59.340 of glamour

00:13:00.080 and fame and power.

00:13:01.440 That is really corrupting

00:13:03.200 and it's hard

00:13:04.100 to keep a rein on that

00:13:05.180 and it remains to be seen

00:13:07.720 if Hollywood

00:13:08.120 will be able to

00:13:09.180 institute any kind of

00:13:11.040 culture of accountability,

00:13:12.280 I'm not very hopeful

00:13:13.920 for it

00:13:14.420 but excellent,

00:13:15.760 excellent analysis.

00:13:16.660 Perez,

00:13:16.860 thank you for being on.

00:13:17.940 We've got to bring you back.

00:13:19.000 You're like the expert

00:13:19.940 on all of these issues.

00:13:22.240 Thank you.

00:13:23.000 All right.

00:13:23.360 Thanks, pal.

00:13:23.780 We'll talk to you soon.

00:13:25.080 All righty.

00:13:25.540 Now we have got to get

00:13:27.420 to the ugly people.

00:13:28.600 We were talking about

00:13:29.500 how D.C. is just Hollywood

00:13:31.700 for ugly people.

00:13:32.940 Now let's get to the ugly people.

00:13:34.820 Senator Jeff Flake

00:13:35.700 will not be seeking re-election.

00:13:38.080 Here is his grandstanding,

00:13:40.180 conscious of a conservative speech.

00:13:41.860 The principles that underlie our politics,

00:13:44.640 the values of our founding

00:13:45.820 are too vital to our identity

00:13:47.940 and to our survival

00:13:49.060 to allow them to be compromised

00:13:50.820 by the requirements of politics

00:13:52.880 because politics can make us silent

00:13:55.700 when we should speak

00:13:56.800 and silence can equal complicity.

00:14:00.280 I have children and grandchildren

00:14:02.280 to answer to

00:14:03.260 and so, Mr. President,

00:14:05.180 I will not be complicit or silent.

00:14:07.420 It is also clear to me

00:14:09.260 for the moment

00:14:09.920 that we have given in

00:14:11.960 or given up

00:14:12.960 on the core principles

00:14:14.040 in favor of a more viscerally

00:14:15.940 satisfying anger and resentment.

00:14:19.380 But anger and resentment

00:14:21.060 are not a governing philosophy.

00:14:24.560 Let's be perfectly clear.

00:14:26.440 Jeff Flake is not seeking re-election

00:14:28.160 because he would lose.

00:14:29.900 That's it.

00:14:31.320 He's played along

00:14:32.520 with various aspects

00:14:34.680 of the Republican Party

00:14:35.760 and conservatism.

00:14:36.600 He's played along with Trump.

00:14:38.060 He's pilloried Trump.

00:14:39.620 Same thing with George W. Bush.

00:14:41.460 But the reason

00:14:42.280 that he's not seeking re-election

00:14:43.380 is not some grand moral gesture.

00:14:45.760 It's because he knows

00:14:46.300 he's going to lose.

00:14:47.200 Same thing with Bob Corker.

00:14:49.280 These are two guys

00:14:50.060 who have been very critical of Trump,

00:14:52.160 perhaps recklessly critical of Trump,

00:14:54.780 and they've been a little squishy

00:14:56.700 on their votes.

00:14:58.040 They're not total liberals.

00:14:59.720 Some conservatives have said

00:15:00.940 they're far lefties or something.

00:15:02.420 They're not.

00:15:03.000 They're just a little squishy.

00:15:04.400 Nevertheless, CNN is now reporting,

00:15:07.840 quote,

00:15:08.580 any other president

00:15:09.580 would be facing

00:15:11.080 an existential crisis

00:15:12.580 after being accused

00:15:14.040 by two pillars

00:15:15.060 of his own party

00:15:16.120 of debasing the nation.

00:15:18.200 They are not pillars of the party.

00:15:21.080 CNN just might not know that

00:15:22.940 because CNN is fake news,

00:15:24.700 obviously,

00:15:25.340 as that video

00:15:26.940 that we released

00:15:27.500 the other day shows you.

00:15:29.380 So they are not pillars of the party.

00:15:31.200 They're trying to make a mountain

00:15:32.020 out of a molehill,

00:15:33.040 but certainly they can't.

00:15:34.620 Matt Latimer,

00:15:35.460 former aide to Mitch McConnell,

00:15:37.240 yes,

00:15:37.580 that Mitch McConnell,

00:15:38.660 the squishy establishment

00:15:40.260 Republican Senate Majority Leader,

00:15:42.300 said,

00:15:42.920 quote,

00:15:43.400 the traditional Republican Party

00:15:44.720 has to decide

00:15:45.520 if they're going to acquiesce

00:15:47.360 to Trumpism

00:15:48.420 or to rebel against it.

00:15:50.300 Right now,

00:15:50.700 the majority of the base

00:15:51.700 seems to be in favor

00:15:52.400 of acquiescing.

00:15:53.460 There are very few

00:15:54.440 willing to revolt right now.

00:15:56.560 What are you talking about?

00:15:59.760 One must know

00:16:00.800 what part of the party

00:16:02.200 you come from.

00:16:03.100 This is an aide

00:16:04.060 to Mitch McConnell.

00:16:05.380 What is the revolt?

00:16:06.360 The Republican establishment

00:16:07.520 has been giving

00:16:08.160 Donald Trump grief

00:16:09.280 for,

00:16:10.000 in many ways,

00:16:11.400 hysterical grief,

00:16:12.340 in some ways,

00:16:13.020 deserved grief,

00:16:14.140 but in some ways,

00:16:15.120 utterly ridiculous grief

00:16:16.660 since he opened his mouth.

00:16:18.940 So,

00:16:19.480 you know,

00:16:20.340 where is the,

00:16:20.920 everyone has revolted

00:16:22.280 against him.

00:16:23.040 Trump has managed

00:16:23.660 to outmaneuver

00:16:24.280 all of them

00:16:24.880 and to pretty good effect,

00:16:26.740 by the way.

00:16:27.360 We've gotten good stuff

00:16:28.340 out of Donald Trump so far.

00:16:29.760 Massive deregulation,

00:16:31.640 excellent judicial nominees

00:16:33.860 and an original

00:16:34.740 Supreme Court justice

00:16:35.720 and a shift in the culture.

00:16:37.800 We're no longer talking

00:16:38.740 about transgender bathrooms.

00:16:40.400 We're talking about jobs.

00:16:41.720 And on those cultural issues,

00:16:43.140 he's been willing

00:16:43.640 to wage a great cultural battle.

00:16:45.540 He's said,

00:16:46.120 we need to respect our flag.

00:16:47.520 I'm not saying

00:16:47.960 we're going to outlaw

00:16:48.800 disrespecting the flag,

00:16:50.220 but we should do it.

00:16:51.240 This is something

00:16:51.660 we haven't heard

00:16:52.200 in a long time.

00:16:52.920 People who have led

00:16:55.000 the conservative movement

00:16:55.820 for a long time,

00:16:56.880 Brent Bozell

00:16:57.460 at Media Research Center,

00:16:58.980 have come out strongly

00:17:00.440 against him.

00:17:01.160 Bozell said,

00:17:01.900 quote,

00:17:02.200 Flake can blame Trump

00:17:03.200 all day long.

00:17:04.160 The truth is

00:17:04.720 his voters wanted him out.

00:17:06.120 He was a disgrace.

00:17:08.240 Conservative review

00:17:09.180 gives him an F rating

00:17:10.320 on liberty.

00:17:11.220 Bozell went on,

00:17:12.020 quote,

00:17:12.300 Flake was our number one

00:17:13.440 target in 2018.

00:17:15.060 Four America's Arizona members,

00:17:17.300 that's his organization,

00:17:18.680 148,000 conservative

00:17:20.260 boots on the ground

00:17:21.060 were primed and ready

00:17:22.640 to defeat him.

00:17:24.380 Obviously,

00:17:25.020 he got that F rating

00:17:26.060 from conservative review.

00:17:27.360 Heritage Action

00:17:28.060 gave him only a 67%.

00:17:30.040 We should be a little

00:17:31.540 fair to Flake.

00:17:32.260 He's very weak

00:17:33.040 on immigration.

00:17:33.760 That's what accounts

00:17:34.260 for most of those

00:17:34.880 low scores.

00:17:35.960 He's got top scores

00:17:36.840 on Right to Life

00:17:37.520 and NRA.

00:17:38.700 But you should consider

00:17:39.960 the context of Flake's

00:17:41.260 going rogue.

00:17:43.080 He waited to go rogue

00:17:44.180 until he knew

00:17:44.620 he couldn't win.

00:17:45.920 The last time he went rogue

00:17:47.300 was 2006,

00:17:48.460 and he lambasted his party.

00:17:49.940 It was right before

00:17:50.960 the Democrats swept

00:17:51.740 the country,

00:17:52.640 and it's right when

00:17:53.640 Republicans were at

00:17:54.600 a really vulnerable

00:17:55.460 and low point,

00:17:56.460 and he jumped ship

00:17:57.180 and started criticizing

00:17:57.980 them too.

00:17:58.820 Corker,

00:17:59.180 Bob Corker also

00:17:59.880 is a bit squishy.

00:18:00.980 He didn't want to repeal

00:18:01.700 certain Obamacare taxes.

00:18:03.040 Heritage Action

00:18:03.580 only gives him

00:18:04.120 a 50% score.

00:18:05.460 Club for Growth

00:18:05.980 only gives him

00:18:06.440 an 80% score.

00:18:07.680 I know 80% sounds high,

00:18:09.180 but Republicans

00:18:09.980 need to be pro-growth.

00:18:11.440 It shouldn't be that low.

00:18:13.160 Conservative Review

00:18:13.860 gives Corker a 47%.

00:18:15.680 The issue here,

00:18:17.720 I don't think,

00:18:18.320 is the vote,

00:18:18.920 you're pro-immigration,

00:18:20.220 you're anti-immigration.

00:18:21.320 It's the opportunism.

00:18:22.900 It's, in Flake's case,

00:18:24.860 seeming like you're

00:18:25.400 trying to save your own skin

00:18:26.640 rather than do the adult thing

00:18:28.400 and risk your political reputation.

00:18:30.640 Risk looking at yourself

00:18:31.680 in the mirror

00:18:32.180 to affect good outcomes

00:18:34.300 for the country.

00:18:35.240 Here is soon-to-be

00:18:36.200 ex-Senator Bob Corker

00:18:37.400 discussing Trump.

00:18:38.220 And among the comments

00:18:39.300 you made is that

00:18:40.000 you're concerned his comments,

00:18:41.480 the president's comments,

00:18:42.340 could put us on the path

00:18:43.340 to World War III.

00:18:45.800 Let me put it bluntly,

00:18:47.060 left to his own devices,

00:18:48.460 do you think the president

00:18:49.380 is a threat

00:18:50.120 to national security?

00:18:52.540 I think that there are

00:18:53.800 people around him

00:18:54.920 that work in an effort

00:18:57.320 to contain him.

00:18:58.620 That would be

00:18:59.260 Secretary Mattis

00:19:00.260 and Tillerson

00:19:00.900 and General Kelly

00:19:02.120 there as chief of staff.

00:19:03.400 Well, that almost seems

00:19:04.220 to accept the premise

00:19:05.280 of the question,

00:19:06.020 if he needs to be contained?

00:19:07.140 I do think

00:19:10.120 when you have

00:19:10.880 the kind of issue

00:19:11.720 we're dealing with

00:19:12.420 in North Korea

00:19:13.200 where we have

00:19:14.800 a very unstable leader there,

00:19:17.700 when you send out tweets

00:19:19.380 into the region

00:19:20.140 to raise tensions,

00:19:21.420 when you kneecap,

00:19:22.720 which is what he's done publicly,

00:19:25.380 when you kneecap

00:19:26.200 your secretary of state

00:19:27.500 whose diplomacy

00:19:28.840 you have to depend upon

00:19:30.280 to really bring China

00:19:31.580 to the table

00:19:32.260 to do the things

00:19:33.080 that need to be done,

00:19:34.540 back-channeling in some cases

00:19:36.100 to North Korea,

00:19:37.840 when you kneecap that effort,

00:19:39.700 you really move our country

00:19:41.280 into a binary choice

00:19:42.940 which could lead

00:19:44.280 to a world war.

00:19:45.980 Outrageous condescension

00:19:47.240 from Bob Corker.

00:19:48.640 That's his answer.

00:19:49.360 He goes on NBC News,

00:19:50.760 which is a communications wing

00:19:52.020 of the Democratic Party,

00:19:53.380 and he says,

00:19:53.880 yeah, I'll tell you folks,

00:19:54.940 I think that Donald Trump,

00:19:56.220 he's going to get us

00:19:56.920 into World War III,

00:19:58.040 but he says it nice and slow

00:19:59.600 and he's nice and genteel

00:20:00.940 and political

00:20:01.720 and isn't he so polite?

00:20:03.860 And he's accusing the president

00:20:05.200 of getting us

00:20:05.740 into World War III

00:20:06.600 when by all accounts

00:20:08.240 Donald Trump's policy

00:20:09.500 on North Korea

00:20:10.220 is better than

00:20:11.200 any of his predecessors.

00:20:12.700 Let's not forget,

00:20:13.520 here's a little quick

00:20:14.040 history lesson.

00:20:14.940 Bill Clinton allowed

00:20:15.680 the Kim regime

00:20:16.240 to get nuclear weapons,

00:20:17.560 George W. Bush

00:20:18.200 was fighting another war

00:20:19.220 so he couldn't focus on that,

00:20:20.600 and Barack Obama

00:20:21.520 used a strategy

00:20:22.340 called strategic patience

00:20:23.540 that got us

00:20:24.280 absolutely nothing.

00:20:25.360 So Donald Trump

00:20:26.020 by all accounts

00:20:26.920 has handled this well,

00:20:28.080 but there's Bob Corker

00:20:29.060 undercutting his own president,

00:20:30.600 president from his own party,

00:20:32.000 saying, well,

00:20:32.540 we have the adults there

00:20:33.520 to babysit Donald Trump

00:20:34.740 in the White House.

00:20:36.200 Absolutely despicable.

00:20:38.220 And there's that loyalty question.

00:20:41.000 You know,

00:20:42.200 we've heard for a long time

00:20:44.060 from Trump critics

00:20:44.780 that Donald Trump,

00:20:45.780 he's going to move

00:20:46.140 the country left,

00:20:47.120 he's going to move

00:20:47.640 the party left,

00:20:48.680 he's going to get rid

00:20:49.780 of the conservatives,

00:20:50.720 he's going to sidle up

00:20:51.560 to Democrats,

00:20:52.720 fundamentally change

00:20:53.740 the conservative movement.

00:20:55.380 It's not what I'm seeing.

00:20:56.800 I'm not seeing conservatives

00:20:57.820 being primaried out.

00:20:58.720 I'm seeing squishy Republicans

00:21:00.140 being primaried out.

00:21:01.400 And I'm seeing more

00:21:02.360 conservative challengers

00:21:03.560 coming in

00:21:04.120 and trying to take their spots.

00:21:06.940 So I think that narrative

00:21:08.420 has just fallen apart.

00:21:10.220 And let's not forget

00:21:12.000 this other thing.

00:21:12.620 Politics is a team sport.

00:21:14.240 And you can showboat

00:21:15.400 and you can go around

00:21:16.540 and say,

00:21:17.360 look at me,

00:21:18.160 I'm Jeff Flake.

00:21:18.920 And all of you

00:21:19.580 who are willing

00:21:20.580 to actually accomplish

00:21:21.940 any political good

00:21:22.860 for the country,

00:21:23.720 you guys are sellouts

00:21:24.960 and you're immoral

00:21:26.120 and it's awful

00:21:26.860 what you're doing.

00:21:27.520 Well, look, pal,

00:21:29.200 what have you done for us?

00:21:30.360 What is all of your showboating

00:21:31.460 getting us?

00:21:32.440 Perhaps it makes you

00:21:33.520 feel better about yourself.

00:21:34.800 It makes you feel

00:21:35.480 morally superior.

00:21:36.640 But in the meanwhile,

00:21:37.540 the adults are going

00:21:38.300 to go out

00:21:38.840 and actually accomplish

00:21:40.480 conservative

00:21:41.620 and liberty-focused

00:21:43.240 policy objectives

00:21:44.340 for the country.

00:21:45.840 It hints at

00:21:47.140 what one thing

00:21:48.340 I really don't like,

00:21:49.120 which is I'm a Republican,

00:21:50.580 but not that kind

00:21:51.200 of Republican.

00:21:51.920 You hear this a lot

00:21:52.760 from college kids.

00:21:53.780 I see it all the time.

00:21:55.620 Well, I'm a conservative,

00:21:56.400 but I'm not one

00:21:57.140 of those conservatives.

00:21:57.940 I don't support this.

00:21:58.640 I don't support that.

00:21:59.320 I don't...

00:21:59.660 Please, New York Times,

00:22:00.620 please like me.

00:22:01.800 Oh, Washington Post,

00:22:02.960 please give me approval.

00:22:05.440 And that is something

00:22:06.340 we should avoid.

00:22:07.380 Who cares

00:22:07.820 what those people think?

00:22:09.080 You got to stick

00:22:10.240 by your guys.

00:22:11.360 If, by the way,

00:22:13.080 Donald Trump

00:22:13.600 did something egregious

00:22:14.780 and you wanted

00:22:15.400 to stand up to him

00:22:16.440 and say,

00:22:17.520 this is moving the party

00:22:18.280 in the wrong direction,

00:22:19.000 we shouldn't do it,

00:22:20.020 be my guest.

00:22:20.840 There could be

00:22:21.420 some courage there.

00:22:22.480 But to try

00:22:23.000 to undercut him

00:22:23.800 on petty things

00:22:24.820 like tweets

00:22:25.600 or on his lack

00:22:27.020 of couth,

00:22:27.960 his general impoliteness,

00:22:30.500 let's say,

00:22:31.200 that is really despicable.

00:22:33.620 And you're putting

00:22:34.300 your own image

00:22:35.360 and your own public image

00:22:36.360 above the good

00:22:37.140 of the country.

00:22:37.960 Because, again,

00:22:39.220 if Bob Corker

00:22:40.220 is suggesting

00:22:41.400 that Trump's handling

00:22:42.140 of North Korea

00:22:42.880 is awful for the country

00:22:45.540 and we need

00:22:45.780 to move away from it,

00:22:46.800 look at the results

00:22:47.460 that he's had.

00:22:47.940 He got that American

00:22:48.660 student released.

00:22:49.980 He's the first one

00:22:51.460 to really take

00:22:52.520 a hard line

00:22:53.100 with North Korea

00:22:53.800 and apparently

00:22:54.980 show some strength

00:22:56.080 after three different

00:22:58.400 presidents of both parties

00:22:59.940 have basically

00:23:00.820 ignored the issue.

00:23:02.020 So, come on, guys,

00:23:03.020 don't be a Republican,

00:23:03.880 not that kind

00:23:04.360 of Republican.

00:23:05.260 Stick by your guy.

00:23:06.660 F is for flake.

00:23:08.500 I'm glad to see

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00:23:10.820 and in the country.

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00:23:12.740 to have to bring

00:23:13.120 on our panel

00:23:13.580 to see if everybody

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00:24:48.680 All right,

00:24:48.920 let's bring on our panel.

00:24:49.960 We have a very good panel today.

00:24:51.160 We have from Stanford,

00:24:53.400 Ariel Davidson.

00:24:54.160 We have from the blaze

00:24:54.960 conservative millennial,

00:24:55.900 Allie Stuckey.

00:24:56.620 And we have from

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00:24:58.660 Emily Butler.

00:24:59.580 Ladies,

00:24:59.980 thank you for being here.

00:25:01.680 First question.

00:25:02.420 Thanks for having us.

00:25:04.040 I'll just go,

00:25:04.820 I'll do a little round robin

00:25:06.020 here starting with Allie.

00:25:07.260 Are we happy

00:25:07.880 that Flake and Corker are gone?

00:25:09.160 Is this a good thing

00:25:09.760 for the country and the party?

00:25:10.920 Yeah,

00:25:11.160 I think absolutely.

00:25:12.540 And it's a very easy card

00:25:15.220 for them to play

00:25:16.120 the scapegoat card

00:25:17.520 in which they say

00:25:20.140 that they're laying down

00:25:21.280 their political careers

00:25:22.560 for the advancement

00:25:24.020 of some kind

00:25:25.100 of conservative principles.

00:25:26.520 I think we know,

00:25:27.420 like you noted,

00:25:28.440 that Flake doesn't actually

00:25:29.620 represent any more

00:25:30.760 very conservative principles.

00:25:32.580 He ran as a Republican

00:25:33.700 and has actually ruled

00:25:35.220 as a rhino.

00:25:36.140 He has betrayed

00:25:37.020 his constituents

00:25:37.680 when it comes to

00:25:38.760 immigration and health care.

00:25:40.460 And now he's trying

00:25:41.700 to say that

00:25:42.540 on no fault of his own,

00:25:44.980 he is leaving

00:25:46.820 his long tenure

00:25:48.020 as a congressman.

00:25:49.420 And it's just not true.

00:25:52.120 Jeff Flake is unpopular

00:25:53.120 because he is an unpopular

00:25:54.600 senator,

00:25:55.200 has nothing to do with Trump.

00:25:56.780 Couldn't agree more.

00:25:57.720 Ariel, what do you think?

00:25:58.700 I agree with Allie

00:25:59.700 and I'm going to second it

00:26:00.680 by saying I think

00:26:01.540 there's this weird propensity

00:26:02.820 within the Republican Party,

00:26:04.260 especially to

00:26:05.300 scapegoat Trump's tweets.

00:26:06.920 You know,

00:26:08.140 we can agree

00:26:08.720 or disagree

00:26:09.280 about the content

00:26:10.160 of Trump's tweets

00:26:10.900 and what he chooses

00:26:12.040 to talk about

00:26:12.700 and the way he does it.

00:26:14.160 I personally

00:26:14.760 sometimes think

00:26:15.740 they're inappropriate,

00:26:16.860 but that's his own decision.

00:26:20.260 That aside,

00:26:21.800 I think far too often

00:26:23.300 we see various members

00:26:25.060 of Congress saying,

00:26:26.180 look at what Trump tweeted.

00:26:27.780 And I say to myself,

00:26:28.720 no,

00:26:29.120 I'm more worried

00:26:29.760 about what you're performing

00:26:31.100 and what you're doing

00:26:31.980 in Congress,

00:26:32.840 which at this point

00:26:33.720 is completely lame duck.

00:26:34.900 So I think it's become

00:26:36.340 a convenient scapegoat

00:26:37.880 for failing members

00:26:38.860 of Congress,

00:26:39.520 such as Flake and Corker,

00:26:41.160 to turn to sort of

00:26:43.140 Trump's tweets

00:26:43.980 as something

00:26:44.580 that they can fall on

00:26:46.320 and, you know,

00:26:47.380 earn them accolades

00:26:48.760 on Good Morning America

00:26:49.800 and they can conduct interviews.

00:26:51.520 I'm saying,

00:26:51.860 no,

00:26:52.020 I'm worried about your content

00:26:53.200 and what you're producing

00:26:54.620 as a member of Congress.

00:26:55.680 It's a little,

00:26:56.280 it's like magicians do.

00:26:58.320 They hold their fingers

00:26:59.220 over here.

00:26:59.680 They say,

00:27:00.000 oh,

00:27:00.120 look at the tweets.

00:27:00.860 Look at the tweets.

00:27:01.560 Don't look at my record.

00:27:02.640 Just look at the tweets.

00:27:03.820 It's a distraction.

00:27:04.620 It's been completely ridiculous.

00:27:06.740 I mean,

00:27:06.940 we waited seven years

00:27:08.060 for a repeal of Obamacare

00:27:09.380 and now we have

00:27:10.640 Corker and Flake

00:27:11.620 discussing how

00:27:12.400 Trump is inappropriate.

00:27:14.020 I think,

00:27:14.520 you know,

00:27:14.780 there are times and places

00:27:16.480 when we can criticize

00:27:17.780 the president,

00:27:18.600 but your performance

00:27:19.400 in Congress

00:27:19.940 is your own.

00:27:20.740 There's a time

00:27:21.260 and a place for everything

00:27:22.220 and that place is college.

00:27:23.520 There's a time

00:27:23.720 and a place for everything.

00:27:24.840 And so,

00:27:25.220 you know,

00:27:25.760 quite frankly,

00:27:26.500 if Corker really wants

00:27:27.360 to talk about his legacy,

00:27:28.480 we can talk about

00:27:29.120 the Iran deal.

00:27:30.260 Emily,

00:27:30.840 what do you think?

00:27:31.460 Is this a good thing?

00:27:32.200 And is this about

00:27:33.640 political positions?

00:27:35.520 I think it's more

00:27:36.300 about branding

00:27:36.980 than it has anything

00:27:38.080 to do with political positions.

00:27:39.360 Like Ali and Ariel

00:27:40.920 just said,

00:27:41.580 it's something to do

00:27:42.760 with your own personal brand

00:27:44.000 and clearly Corkers

00:27:45.320 and Flake's brands

00:27:46.160 are not doing well.

00:27:47.300 So this is kind of

00:27:48.020 a last ditch effort

00:27:48.860 to run in

00:27:49.600 and save that brand

00:27:51.080 and,

00:27:51.580 you know,

00:27:52.260 solidify that brand

00:27:53.340 as one of the people

00:27:54.260 against Donald Trump.

00:27:55.220 That being said,

00:27:57.100 I also think that

00:27:58.640 there is like

00:27:59.040 a smaller and smaller

00:28:00.040 percentage of people

00:28:01.000 who were part

00:28:02.740 of the Never Trump crowd

00:28:03.720 who are still

00:28:04.660 against Trump.

00:28:06.540 And I think,

00:28:08.360 personally,

00:28:08.980 Trump's brand

00:28:09.600 of conservatism

00:28:10.560 works for now.

00:28:13.060 I think Trump

00:28:13.480 is the president

00:28:14.000 we need now.

00:28:15.340 I don't know

00:28:15.920 if he is the president

00:28:16.700 who's going to do

00:28:17.580 the best justice

00:28:18.360 for the Republican Party

00:28:19.440 in the long term.

00:28:21.000 So I don't necessarily

00:28:22.620 have a problem

00:28:23.380 with fellow Republicans

00:28:25.100 calling him out

00:28:26.000 or attacking him

00:28:26.860 on certain things.

00:28:28.380 I think that it gives

00:28:30.000 President Trump

00:28:30.740 an opportunity

00:28:31.260 to respond

00:28:32.280 in a more mature manner,

00:28:33.820 especially.

00:28:34.500 I think every single attack

00:28:35.880 on Trump

00:28:36.340 gives him an opportunity

00:28:37.400 to build his brand

00:28:39.120 better or build his brand

00:28:40.400 in a different way.

00:28:42.120 So,

00:28:42.900 yeah.

00:28:43.200 Of course.

00:28:44.040 And that president

00:28:45.800 for now

00:28:46.520 is a good point

00:28:47.500 because I think

00:28:48.460 some people

00:28:49.020 who are ideologues,

00:28:50.040 especially on the left,

00:28:51.720 but there are some ideologues

00:28:52.800 on the right, too.

00:28:53.880 They say,

00:28:54.420 well,

00:28:54.700 everything needs to be

00:28:56.220 Abraham Lincoln, basically.

00:28:57.620 Everything needs to be

00:28:58.720 an eternal principle.

00:29:00.180 But that isn't how

00:29:00.820 politics really works.

00:29:02.180 In real politics,

00:29:03.160 you have particular people

00:29:04.640 doing particular things

00:29:06.040 in a particular time

00:29:07.040 and place.

00:29:08.000 And so,

00:29:09.040 yeah,

00:29:09.400 you might not need

00:29:10.180 your plumber

00:29:10.720 to live in your house

00:29:12.040 with you,

00:29:12.380 but sometimes you need

00:29:13.080 the plumber to come over

00:29:13.980 and fix the drain.

00:29:16.420 Ali,

00:29:16.740 do you think

00:29:17.480 that loyalty

00:29:18.720 should be

00:29:19.600 a real consideration

00:29:20.520 in politics?

00:29:21.500 I know a lot of people,

00:29:22.440 they want to say,

00:29:23.080 well,

00:29:23.420 you know,

00:29:23.780 Trump is okay on this,

00:29:24.840 he's bad on this,

00:29:26.140 but he's not my guy.

00:29:27.320 I'm just going to,

00:29:28.680 I'll like him

00:29:29.860 when I like him

00:29:30.360 and I won't like him

00:29:31.000 when I won't like him.

00:29:32.060 Is there some team loyalty here,

00:29:33.920 some partisan loyalty

00:29:35.120 that we should give to Trump

00:29:36.320 that we should possibly

00:29:37.640 give him a little race?

00:29:39.120 Of course,

00:29:39.920 I think that everyone

00:29:40.760 on this panel

00:29:41.360 would agree with this.

00:29:42.300 I think we all agree

00:29:43.260 that loyalty to principle

00:29:44.760 is much more important

00:29:45.820 than loyalty to party

00:29:47.020 and certainly more than loyalty

00:29:49.060 to any politician

00:29:50.000 because if you have

00:29:50.780 a politician

00:29:51.380 that challenges

00:29:52.720 your priorities

00:29:54.000 or your principles,

00:29:55.300 then you don't have to side

00:29:57.120 and you shouldn't side

00:29:58.220 with that politician.

00:29:59.560 Politicians change

00:30:00.940 and fade.

00:30:02.520 We've seen that,

00:30:03.620 you know,

00:30:03.840 several times

00:30:04.380 over the course

00:30:04.860 of our history,

00:30:05.520 but your principles

00:30:06.140 essentially shouldn't.

00:30:07.720 But I do,

00:30:08.600 I don't think

00:30:09.580 it's absolutely absurd

00:30:10.900 for President Trump

00:30:11.760 to ask for some sort

00:30:13.420 of loyalty

00:30:13.980 and for him

00:30:14.580 to appreciate

00:30:15.340 some sort of loyalty.

00:30:16.860 He's a businessman.

00:30:17.660 That's kind of how he has

00:30:19.420 run his life

00:30:20.660 and has run

00:30:21.760 his several successful businesses.

00:30:23.440 I don't think

00:30:24.000 that's absolutely absurd.

00:30:25.660 And I also think

00:30:26.300 it's human nature.

00:30:27.300 I think anyone,

00:30:28.160 whether in politics or not,

00:30:29.700 appreciates some sense

00:30:31.260 of loyalty.

00:30:32.640 I do,

00:30:33.620 what I don't really like,

00:30:34.660 I don't mind

00:30:35.220 the criticizing of Trump

00:30:36.520 by any politician.

00:30:37.680 I think there's a way

00:30:38.360 to do it tastefully

00:30:39.260 and a way to do it

00:30:40.520 in a way

00:30:41.040 that is not necessarily

00:30:42.300 capitalizing upon

00:30:43.720 this whole anti-Trump resistance.

00:30:45.720 But when you see people

00:30:46.760 like Corker

00:30:47.380 and you see people

00:30:48.160 like blatantly telling lies

00:30:50.560 and like we said before,

00:30:51.880 acting as scapegoats,

00:30:53.460 not taking responsibility

00:30:54.480 for their own actions

00:30:55.800 and putting the blame

00:30:56.600 on Trump,

00:30:57.420 that's where we have

00:30:58.100 a problem.

00:30:58.920 It's no longer

00:30:59.560 honest criticism.

00:31:01.020 It is an inability

00:31:03.760 to take responsibility

00:31:04.860 for their own actions

00:31:06.260 or inaction.

00:31:07.020 And that's what I don't know.

00:31:07.800 And there's a great

00:31:08.560 distinction you just made

00:31:09.800 between criticizing Trump

00:31:12.940 or being loyal

00:31:13.880 to your principles

00:31:14.500 and being loyal

00:31:15.080 to the people.

00:31:15.720 Obviously,

00:31:16.560 put not your faith

00:31:17.280 in princes.

00:31:18.080 But I don't think

00:31:18.860 the criticism of Trump

00:31:19.800 is about principles.

00:31:21.060 I think the criticism

00:31:21.720 of Trump

00:31:22.240 is because he's uncouth

00:31:23.360 and it isn't really nice

00:31:25.580 to be associated with him

00:31:26.800 when you're in polite,

00:31:28.220 rarefied, elite company.

00:31:30.120 And so I think

00:31:30.880 these guys are criticizing him

00:31:32.100 over tweets.

00:31:33.240 And that,

00:31:33.960 I don't think there's

00:31:34.740 any reason to be doing that.

00:31:36.280 I think it's disloyal,

00:31:37.540 counterproductive.

00:31:38.700 It puts your own

00:31:39.640 polished image

00:31:40.820 above the good

00:31:41.360 of the country.

00:31:42.300 Sure,

00:31:42.520 if Donald Trump

00:31:43.280 suddenly wants

00:31:44.360 to raise taxes

00:31:45.700 and says that

00:31:46.460 we need to have

00:31:47.420 an annual

00:31:48.060 or a nightly burning

00:31:49.340 of the American flag

00:31:50.280 at every home

00:31:50.740 in the country,

00:31:51.520 yeah, okay,

00:31:51.980 maybe we should disagree

00:31:53.880 with him

00:31:54.260 and criticize him there.

00:31:55.640 But I have a point

00:31:57.980 of contention with that.

00:31:59.340 So some of the criticism

00:32:00.420 haven't only,

00:32:01.360 okay,

00:32:01.540 maybe with Blake and Corker,

00:32:03.620 maybe some of that

00:32:04.400 has been mostly tweet-based.

00:32:05.760 But we have,

00:32:07.060 for example,

00:32:07.980 Sass has criticized

00:32:09.040 President Trump

00:32:10.560 on threatening

00:32:11.460 to revoke

00:32:12.680 the licenses

00:32:13.540 of the media,

00:32:14.180 whatever that means.

00:32:14.820 I don't think

00:32:15.320 that means anything.

00:32:16.380 And so there are

00:32:17.080 some matters of principle

00:32:18.340 that I think

00:32:18.860 some conservatives

00:32:19.600 are calling him out on.

00:32:21.080 And I don't think

00:32:21.800 that we can fault them

00:32:22.840 for that.

00:32:23.260 Fair enough.

00:32:23.800 I do think

00:32:24.340 if he were to actually

00:32:25.600 revoke NBC's license,

00:32:27.540 that might be a problem.

00:32:29.040 But Scott Adams

00:32:29.860 had a great article

00:32:31.140 in the Wall Street Journal

00:32:32.160 the other day

00:32:32.800 about how

00:32:33.900 what Trump does,

00:32:35.640 what he's doing

00:32:36.320 when he's tweeting

00:32:37.000 these sort of things

00:32:37.840 is he's getting you

00:32:39.120 to go so far

00:32:41.240 that you're already

00:32:42.060 accepting his premises.

00:32:43.380 So when he's saying

00:32:44.280 maybe we should

00:32:45.000 repeal NBC's licenses,

00:32:47.860 what he's really doing

00:32:48.800 is getting you

00:32:49.340 to accept

00:32:50.340 the premise

00:32:51.660 that NBC is corrupt

00:32:53.020 and a hack for Democrats

00:32:54.320 and presents fake news.

00:32:55.620 And so I don't know.

00:32:56.600 I mean,

00:32:56.780 maybe it goes

00:32:57.740 a little too far.

00:32:58.660 Maybe Scott

00:32:59.420 protests too much.

00:33:00.280 But I'm really

00:33:00.800 compelled by his theory.

00:33:02.460 And yeah,

00:33:02.880 if Donald Trump starts,

00:33:03.900 shutting down press offices,

00:33:05.480 I think it might be fair enough

00:33:06.920 to criticize him.

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00:34:25.680 We need to talk

00:34:26.900 about actress

00:34:27.460 Heather Lind.

00:34:28.760 Actress Heather Lind.

00:34:29.620 Never heard of her.

00:34:30.280 I hadn't either.

00:34:30.900 But she is now

00:34:31.840 accusing

00:34:32.340 93-year-old

00:34:33.840 wheelchair-bound

00:34:35.060 vascular

00:34:35.740 Parkinsonism

00:34:36.700 suffering

00:34:37.220 former Republican

00:34:38.440 President George Bush

00:34:39.600 of sexually

00:34:40.740 assaulting her

00:34:41.760 because he allegedly

00:34:42.940 got a little handsy

00:34:43.940 and told her a joke

00:34:44.680 during a photo op.

00:34:46.500 To put this in context,

00:34:48.440 the pinned tweet

00:34:49.200 on her profile

00:34:50.100 compares Antifa

00:34:51.500 to U.S. soldiers

00:34:52.980 landing at Normandy.

00:34:54.380 So that gives you

00:34:54.800 a little idea

00:34:55.300 of her ideological

00:34:56.040 background.

00:34:57.540 Ariel,

00:34:58.100 has this woman

00:34:58.960 no shame?

00:34:59.480 You know,

00:35:00.140 I think that

00:35:00.980 the one thing

00:35:01.720 that struck me

00:35:02.540 is first of all,

00:35:03.900 you know,

00:35:05.020 President George H.W. Bush

00:35:07.300 is in a wheelchair.

00:35:08.340 So just from a

00:35:09.020 pure positioning standpoint,

00:35:10.740 of taking a picture,

00:35:11.920 I can imagine

00:35:12.540 he might be

00:35:13.880 in an uncomfortable

00:35:14.620 spot to begin with.

00:35:16.580 I know sometimes

00:35:17.720 when I think of,

00:35:18.680 you know,

00:35:19.200 gentlemen who are

00:35:20.260 70 years and older,

00:35:21.920 sometimes they make jokes

00:35:23.040 to connect with younger people

00:35:24.420 and it's a little

00:35:25.140 uncomfortable at times

00:35:26.320 because your sense of humor

00:35:27.740 might just be different.

00:35:29.780 You know,

00:35:30.160 I'm not trying to

00:35:30.960 minimize any traumas

00:35:32.460 you might have experienced,

00:35:33.620 but I think it's a stretch.

00:35:34.600 I'm sure it was real traumatic.

00:35:35.900 I'm sure

00:35:36.760 I can imagine.

00:35:38.880 It's a complete stretch

00:35:39.820 to say that this is,

00:35:40.980 you know,

00:35:41.260 sexual assault

00:35:41.940 and I think it also

00:35:42.640 denigrates real,

00:35:43.860 you know,

00:35:44.480 situations that have

00:35:45.440 been discussed

00:35:46.040 under the Me Too hashtag,

00:35:47.740 situations in which women,

00:35:49.020 you know,

00:35:49.580 were violently

00:35:50.240 taken advantage of

00:35:51.620 and taken advantage of

00:35:52.940 in completely

00:35:53.900 inappropriate contexts

00:35:55.140 and then you have

00:35:55.900 this woman saying,

00:35:57.200 oh, you know,

00:35:58.260 I had an inappropriate

00:35:59.200 joke told

00:35:59.980 and there might have been

00:36:01.240 some uncomfortable

00:36:02.040 touching during

00:36:02.780 the picture quickly

00:36:03.720 and I'm thinking

00:36:04.460 this really sort of

00:36:06.100 subtracts from,

00:36:07.040 you know,

00:36:07.340 the message that

00:36:08.240 there are women

00:36:08.980 actually out there

00:36:09.760 who are using

00:36:10.300 this platform

00:36:10.820 to discuss horrific

00:36:12.260 assaults that have

00:36:12.980 taken place.

00:36:13.660 I made that point

00:36:14.700 in a piece the other day

00:36:16.000 that it really,

00:36:17.300 it disrespects the victims

00:36:19.460 of the real assaults,

00:36:20.600 I think,

00:36:20.940 that whole Me Too hashtag.

00:36:23.000 Emily,

00:36:23.260 what do you think

00:36:23.800 about this?

00:36:24.320 You know,

00:36:26.520 this is not a terribly

00:36:28.000 prominent actress.

00:36:29.240 She doesn't have

00:36:29.600 a lot of Twitter followers,

00:36:30.660 I learned when I went

00:36:31.460 and looked over her today.

00:36:32.780 Is this evidence,

00:36:34.240 as Ariel suggests,

00:36:35.420 that Me Too

00:36:36.260 is a navel-gazing

00:36:37.780 enterprise

00:36:38.840 that isn't terribly

00:36:40.240 concerned with

00:36:40.900 actual victims

00:36:41.760 of sexual assault

00:36:43.000 and rape?

00:36:44.780 Well, you know,

00:36:45.820 I think the hashtag

00:36:47.060 Me Too

00:36:47.460 has probably started

00:36:48.580 in good conscience

00:36:49.700 trying to rally

00:36:50.460 women together

00:36:51.340 to,

00:36:53.000 almost like as

00:36:53.800 Perez said,

00:36:54.660 create a culture

00:36:55.520 that it's okay

00:36:56.040 to speak out,

00:36:56.640 it's okay to say

00:36:57.220 that this isn't okay,

00:36:58.900 this behavior is not okay.

00:37:00.740 And I do think

00:37:01.680 that that goes

00:37:02.200 even beyond rape.

00:37:03.720 Like,

00:37:03.900 I think that

00:37:04.540 there are inappropriate

00:37:05.460 ways that men

00:37:06.340 talk to women

00:37:07.500 or jokes that men

00:37:08.620 think are funny

00:37:09.180 that maybe are not funny.

00:37:11.020 I think the staggering,

00:37:14.340 you know,

00:37:17.420 just absolute, like,

00:37:19.260 ability to put it

00:37:20.160 on Instagram,

00:37:21.500 like, not,

00:37:22.240 you're not making

00:37:22.720 an official complaint,

00:37:23.940 you're not, like,

00:37:25.900 making an allegation,

00:37:27.360 you're not asking

00:37:28.400 for, like,

00:37:28.800 an arrest,

00:37:29.200 you're just asking

00:37:30.080 for attention.

00:37:31.540 And the staggering,

00:37:33.120 like, what is the word?

00:37:34.460 Conceit of the person

00:37:37.820 who's claiming

00:37:38.240 to be a victim here

00:37:41.580 is really just seeking

00:37:43.660 for this attention

00:37:44.880 when all of these

00:37:47.140 other victims

00:37:47.680 need some kind of,

00:37:49.780 like,

00:37:49.980 I do want to say,

00:37:51.440 like,

00:37:51.580 I think that

00:37:52.220 this is an exact example

00:37:55.380 of how this hashtag

00:37:56.260 goes wrong,

00:37:57.200 basically.

00:37:58.000 I think that,

00:37:58.500 I think,

00:37:59.380 yeah.

00:38:00.040 Go ahead, Emily.

00:38:00.820 No, go ahead, Ariel.

00:38:02.240 No, you go ahead, Ali.

00:38:04.180 Oh, go ahead.

00:38:05.300 You go ahead, Marshall.

00:38:06.320 I actually do want to hear

00:38:07.320 from Ali on this.

00:38:08.360 Ali,

00:38:08.840 do you think that,

00:38:11.720 I don't want to be

00:38:12.820 considered insensitive here,

00:38:15.280 and I forget the author,

00:38:16.760 but there was an excellent

00:38:17.640 writer out of Heritage Foundation

00:38:19.380 who wrote a piece saying,

00:38:21.260 I was roofied by a stranger,

00:38:22.520 I'm a conservative,

00:38:23.580 her name is escaping me

00:38:24.760 in the moment,

00:38:25.640 but it was a really good piece,

00:38:27.200 basically giving the other

00:38:28.580 side of this argument.

00:38:30.100 Does Me Too,

00:38:31.860 does it trivialize rape,

00:38:33.600 does this woman

00:38:34.440 accusing a man

00:38:35.980 who can't move

00:38:37.100 of sexually assaulting her,

00:38:39.320 does that trivialize rape,

00:38:41.020 or is it an important

00:38:42.120 conversation

00:38:43.040 that we ought to be having?

00:38:43.960 Well, it trivializes

00:38:44.880 sexual assault of all kinds,

00:38:46.560 and as has already

00:38:47.320 been mentioned,

00:38:48.040 sexual assault actually

00:38:49.020 encompasses more

00:38:49.940 than just rape.

00:38:51.180 But I want to go back

00:38:52.520 to something that you said,

00:38:53.680 this guy that can't move,

00:38:55.040 and Ariel mentioned this too.

00:38:56.560 So just logistically,

00:38:57.980 I mean,

00:38:58.500 he was 90 years old

00:38:59.980 when this happened.

00:39:00.680 This was three years ago,

00:39:01.740 he was 90 years old.

00:39:02.680 It would take the guy

00:39:03.480 probably 30 minutes

00:39:05.120 to even reach

00:39:06.320 for this girl.

00:39:07.140 So what's happening

00:39:08.020 in that time,

00:39:09.100 that's the mystery

00:39:09.820 that I want to solve.

00:39:11.140 Is she just letting this happen?

00:39:12.780 And the article

00:39:13.560 doesn't specify

00:39:14.460 that he actually touched her

00:39:15.680 anywhere inappropriately,

00:39:17.120 since he touched her

00:39:18.040 from behind,

00:39:19.100 which is kind of typical

00:39:20.120 in pictures.

00:39:20.960 So for all we know,

00:39:22.160 he could have touched

00:39:22.820 her ankle,

00:39:23.460 he could have touched

00:39:24.080 her upper back.

00:39:25.240 And yeah,

00:39:25.740 he's a grandpa.

00:39:26.960 Like Ariel said,

00:39:27.840 he might have told

00:39:28.540 an awkward joke.

00:39:29.660 But the fact that

00:39:30.760 she is jumping

00:39:31.520 on this trend,

00:39:32.780 this is what happens

00:39:33.720 during bandwagon syndrome

00:39:35.540 and when sexual assault

00:39:36.920 becomes trendy,

00:39:38.400 we try to go back

00:39:39.740 in the recesses

00:39:40.600 of our mind

00:39:41.300 and scour our memories

00:39:42.900 to try to find something

00:39:44.020 that maybe relates

00:39:45.300 to this hashtag

00:39:46.240 so we can jump on it too.

00:39:48.280 And that's exactly

00:39:49.000 what she did.

00:39:49.880 And you know what?

00:39:50.460 She was embarrassed

00:39:51.180 after she did it.

00:39:52.200 She knew she trivialized

00:39:53.600 instances of actual

00:39:54.660 sexual assault

00:39:55.340 because she took it down.

00:39:57.300 And she should have.

00:39:58.160 It's embarrassing.

00:40:00.020 A 90-year-old man

00:40:01.940 touched you,

00:40:03.200 maybe somewhat inappropriately,

00:40:04.940 maybe made a funny joke,

00:40:06.480 his wife rolled his eyes,

00:40:08.020 and now three years later

00:40:09.080 you're so disturbed by it

00:40:10.500 that coincidentally

00:40:11.700 you are just going

00:40:12.660 to release this harrowing tale

00:40:14.240 at the same time

00:40:15.380 that a hashtag is trending.

00:40:16.860 Wow.

00:40:17.400 And that's a great observation.

00:40:19.220 She never actually says

00:40:21.080 that he touched her tuchus.

00:40:23.040 That's what I assumed

00:40:23.860 she meant

00:40:24.340 when she said

00:40:25.180 he touched me from behind.

00:40:26.260 That's what they want you

00:40:27.080 to assume.

00:40:27.660 Right.

00:40:27.940 But she never said that.

00:40:28.960 That's true.

00:40:29.420 He could have touched wherever

00:40:30.900 and made an awkward joke

00:40:32.340 and now it's a federal case.

00:40:34.560 Now this story,

00:40:36.180 all right,

00:40:36.520 we'll move off

00:40:37.220 of President Bush

00:40:38.060 and the tuchus touching

00:40:39.100 and all of that.

00:40:39.980 This story is genuinely shocking.

00:40:43.260 The Washington Post

00:40:44.600 broke an actual news story.

00:40:47.240 Wow.

00:40:47.860 That could be,

00:40:48.400 we could talk about that

00:40:49.420 in and of itself,

00:40:50.260 but maybe we'll get into

00:40:51.200 the actual story they broke.

00:40:52.520 The Washington Post

00:40:53.640 broke the story

00:40:54.500 on Tuesday night

00:40:55.320 that the Hillary Clinton campaign

00:40:57.620 and the Democrat National Committee

00:40:59.540 helped pay

00:41:00.780 for the now famous dossier

00:41:02.660 of research

00:41:03.260 on President Trump,

00:41:04.880 you know,

00:41:05.340 with the hookers

00:41:06.140 and the bodily fluids

00:41:07.500 flying everywhere.

00:41:08.420 That dossier

00:41:09.460 was paid for

00:41:10.560 by Democrats.

00:41:11.660 Now,

00:41:12.700 Fusion GPS

00:41:13.480 is the organization

00:41:14.620 that's at the center

00:41:15.320 of all this.

00:41:15.820 It's a research firm

00:41:17.080 that hired Christopher Steele,

00:41:19.280 a former British

00:41:20.200 intelligence agent

00:41:21.280 who was versed

00:41:22.280 in Russia-related issues.

00:41:24.540 This means

00:41:25.180 that Democrats

00:41:25.960 paid a foreigner

00:41:27.200 to interfere

00:41:27.960 in the election,

00:41:29.060 which is an irony

00:41:31.020 that transcends parity.

00:41:33.280 They have been accusing

00:41:34.180 Donald Trump

00:41:34.860 of doing this

00:41:35.420 for 11 months.

00:41:36.440 Turns out,

00:41:36.900 we now have hard evidence

00:41:37.780 that they did it.

00:41:38.860 Also,

00:41:39.420 Fusion has ties

00:41:40.160 to the Kremlin.

00:41:41.000 So Fusion GPS,

00:41:41.980 the firm that they enlisted,

00:41:43.300 has ties to Vladimir Putin.

00:41:45.380 It even worked

00:41:46.200 with the Russian lawyers

00:41:47.220 who were present

00:41:48.220 during that big

00:41:49.080 Donald Trump Jr. meeting

00:41:50.340 that they're trying

00:41:51.380 to hype up

00:41:51.880 and make a big deal over.

00:41:53.740 The Democrats

00:41:54.200 have not acknowledged

00:41:54.940 any of this,

00:41:55.720 but even their communications

00:41:56.960 from the Washington Post

00:41:58.200 had to admit it

00:41:59.100 in this story.

00:42:00.860 Ariel,

00:42:01.880 are Democrats

00:42:02.600 going to be sorry

00:42:03.400 that they called

00:42:03.940 for this special counsel

00:42:05.120 to analyze

00:42:07.060 foreign interference

00:42:07.920 in the election?

00:42:08.900 I think they will be.

00:42:10.400 The one thing

00:42:10.840 I wanted to add,

00:42:11.840 too,

00:42:12.080 is that

00:42:12.600 one of my favorite parts

00:42:14.960 about the DNC

00:42:15.880 releasing a statement

00:42:16.760 was that their current

00:42:17.700 leadership

00:42:18.180 had no involvement.

00:42:19.900 I'm like,

00:42:20.340 okay, great.

00:42:20.880 I can't even remember.

00:42:21.940 I think Tom Perez

00:42:22.840 and Pete Ellison

00:42:23.620 were put into power

00:42:24.880 within the last year,

00:42:25.980 so that's not a very

00:42:26.860 large time frame

00:42:28.200 which is working.

00:42:29.560 But I'm great

00:42:30.040 they aren't responsible.

00:42:31.060 That's wonderful.

00:42:31.640 I'm glad to hear that.

00:42:33.340 I think what struck me

00:42:34.660 is sort of fascinating,

00:42:36.200 and I think,

00:42:37.460 you know,

00:42:38.100 if you go back

00:42:38.820 to Donald Trump's tweets,

00:42:40.160 going back to his tweets,

00:42:41.400 he actually had a tweet

00:42:42.360 a few days ago

00:42:43.240 before all this

00:42:44.140 was released

00:42:44.840 saying,

00:42:45.580 you know,

00:42:45.700 I wonder who paid

00:42:46.420 for the dossier.

00:42:47.300 Was it the FBI?

00:42:48.740 Was it the DNC?

00:42:49.760 Was it the Clintons?

00:42:50.520 And you should see

00:42:51.540 all the responses,

00:42:53.160 people saying,

00:42:54.260 shut up,

00:42:54.940 you're wrong,

00:42:55.740 all of this stuff.

00:42:56.580 And so I took actually

00:42:57.680 sweet satisfaction

00:42:59.020 from realizing that,

00:43:00.840 you know,

00:43:01.060 Donald Trump

00:43:01.520 was actually correct.

00:43:02.940 Of course.

00:43:03.380 Trump was this stinks

00:43:04.280 to high heaven.

00:43:05.060 This entire affair

00:43:05.940 stinks to high heaven.

00:43:07.300 And this is one

00:43:07.900 of the few times

00:43:08.560 that I would like

00:43:09.580 to see more media

00:43:10.440 personalities saying,

00:43:11.400 you know what?

00:43:12.240 Trump was actually

00:43:12.960 correct here.

00:43:14.260 And, you know,

00:43:15.160 this is one of those times

00:43:15.920 where I don't think

00:43:16.400 he's really getting

00:43:16.860 much credit for that.

00:43:18.420 What they're going

00:43:19.140 to say, Ariel,

00:43:19.960 they're always going

00:43:20.740 to say,

00:43:21.020 well,

00:43:21.200 he accidentally

00:43:21.820 he got,

00:43:22.400 he was right.

00:43:23.240 Well,

00:43:23.420 it was,

00:43:23.660 yeah,

00:43:24.040 I guess coincidentally

00:43:25.040 he was right.

00:43:26.040 But, you know,

00:43:26.680 he wasn't supposed

00:43:27.340 to be right

00:43:27.860 and we don't want

00:43:28.340 him to be right,

00:43:28.780 so I don't want

00:43:29.420 to admit it.

00:43:30.280 But, you know,

00:43:30.780 the guy's been

00:43:31.300 coincidentally right

00:43:32.260 a lot consistently.

00:43:35.760 Yeah, he has.

00:43:36.880 So, you know,

00:43:37.620 like I said,

00:43:38.800 I think the Democrats

00:43:39.680 will regret this

00:43:41.060 as you suggested

00:43:41.760 and I think we'll

00:43:42.580 start to see this

00:43:43.260 goes a lot deeper

00:43:44.180 than we initially

00:43:45.500 anticipated.

00:43:46.840 And all the rhetoric

00:43:47.860 they put out there

00:43:49.000 about how Trump

00:43:50.540 was influencing the election

00:43:51.680 and hiring,

00:43:52.700 you know,

00:43:53.160 foreign agents

00:43:53.720 to do so,

00:43:54.340 to have this,

00:43:54.940 you know,

00:43:55.660 sit back in their face.

00:43:56.740 It's disturbing,

00:43:59.060 but it's also,

00:43:59.800 you know,

00:43:59.980 for all the rhetoric

00:44:00.580 they put out,

00:44:01.200 we kind of deserve it

00:44:01.960 at this point.

00:44:04.460 The,

00:44:05.300 as you bring up,

00:44:06.960 Trump called this

00:44:07.640 a while ago,

00:44:08.380 the Fusion GPS story

00:44:09.740 has been,

00:44:10.900 popped up months ago.

00:44:11.980 A buddy of mine

00:44:12.680 who works in a

00:44:13.960 completely unrelated

00:44:14.620 industry,

00:44:15.760 I think he sent me

00:44:17.000 an email about this

00:44:17.620 on July 27th

00:44:19.200 or something,

00:44:19.940 in late July,

00:44:21.120 saying,

00:44:21.480 hey,

00:44:21.540 what's up with

00:44:22.020 Fusion GPS?

00:44:23.620 Emily,

00:44:24.140 why are the media

00:44:24.740 only picking up

00:44:25.460 on it now?

00:44:27.500 You mean,

00:44:28.160 you're asking me

00:44:29.360 why the media

00:44:30.400 dragged its feet

00:44:31.600 in vindicating

00:44:32.480 President Donald Trump?

00:44:33.960 Yeah,

00:44:34.200 I just,

00:44:34.460 I've been scratching

00:44:34.900 my head,

00:44:35.420 you know,

00:44:35.780 like,

00:44:36.040 why?

00:44:37.640 It's a question

00:44:38.360 I'm trying to figure out

00:44:39.280 too,

00:44:39.700 but,

00:44:40.200 Like,

00:44:40.960 why do fish swim?

00:44:41.860 You know,

00:44:42.100 like,

00:44:42.340 why does the sun shine?

00:44:43.520 I don't,

00:44:44.080 yeah,

00:44:44.400 I think it's the gills.

00:44:45.720 I'm not,

00:44:46.360 I'm not too sure

00:44:47.280 how that works.

00:44:49.420 Well,

00:44:49.900 obviously,

00:44:50.400 I mean,

00:44:50.600 I don't think the media,

00:44:51.400 even if they have

00:44:52.080 the resources

00:44:52.680 to go in

00:44:53.360 and do investigative

00:44:54.200 reporting

00:44:54.660 and figure out

00:44:55.280 actually the truth,

00:44:56.120 they're not going

00:44:57.160 to send those resources

00:44:58.100 out to the opposite party,

00:44:59.420 out to the political enemy.

00:45:00.680 They want to do

00:45:01.200 everything they can

00:45:01.940 to cover up,

00:45:03.160 to silence,

00:45:03.940 to,

00:45:04.400 you know,

00:45:04.780 prop up the DNC,

00:45:05.840 to prop up the Clintons.

00:45:07.540 This is,

00:45:08.200 you know,

00:45:08.480 right during all of

00:45:09.580 what happened.

00:45:10.500 Well,

00:45:10.660 what did happen,

00:45:11.440 Hillary?

00:45:11.760 What happened?

00:45:12.460 What happened here?

00:45:13.700 What happened in the

00:45:14.360 Clinton campaign?

00:45:15.060 Like,

00:45:15.360 whatever happened?

00:45:17.100 The media is never

00:45:17.860 going to ask those questions.

00:45:19.160 They're going to ask Hillary

00:45:20.160 how she feels,

00:45:22.160 how she feels about losing,

00:45:23.500 how she feels about everything,

00:45:24.780 how she feels about,

00:45:26.100 well,

00:45:26.400 you know,

00:45:26.640 not about being married

00:45:27.560 to Bill Clinton

00:45:28.280 or a rapist,

00:45:29.060 but,

00:45:29.380 you know,

00:45:29.660 those are questions

00:45:30.820 that the media

00:45:31.360 just does not ask.

00:45:32.360 You're talking about

00:45:32.900 my cousin now,

00:45:33.760 thank you very much.

00:45:34.560 Now,

00:45:34.740 I agree entirely.

00:45:36.420 Ali,

00:45:36.980 President Trump said

00:45:37.860 on this Russia issue,

00:45:39.360 quote,

00:45:40.240 now it's turning out

00:45:41.540 that the hoax

00:45:42.400 is turned around.

00:45:43.460 Is that right?

00:45:44.320 Is this whole

00:45:44.820 Russia narrative

00:45:45.660 just being flipped

00:45:46.740 on its head?

00:45:47.560 Well,

00:45:47.760 I certainly hope so.

00:45:48.900 That would be a great

00:45:49.980 Halloween vengeance

00:45:51.620 surprise for Republicans,

00:45:53.960 certainly.

00:45:54.720 I don't know if it's being

00:45:56.120 necessarily turned around

00:45:57.720 completely.

00:45:58.940 I do think that

00:46:00.140 we are going to see

00:46:01.480 Democrats swept up in it,

00:46:03.100 and like you said,

00:46:04.040 they're probably going

00:46:05.040 to regret

00:46:05.820 appointing a special counsel,

00:46:08.040 but for those of us

00:46:09.040 who actually

00:46:09.540 care about seeing

00:46:10.320 the truth,

00:46:10.880 whether it's

00:46:11.700 one side or the other,

00:46:13.040 I think this is great.

00:46:14.660 Even if people

00:46:15.860 from both sides

00:46:16.660 of the aisle

00:46:17.160 are kind of

00:46:17.700 unfortunately involved

00:46:19.380 in this whole

00:46:20.060 collusion scandal,

00:46:21.440 or if no one is,

00:46:22.720 I'm just ready

00:46:23.360 to see the truth.

00:46:24.240 I think most American

00:46:25.140 people are ready

00:46:25.880 to see the truth,

00:46:27.040 actually want to know

00:46:27.940 what's real

00:46:28.640 versus what's a narrative.

00:46:30.880 And so I'm just glad

00:46:32.780 that maybe we're going

00:46:33.800 to have people now

00:46:34.560 on both sides

00:46:35.180 of the aisle

00:46:35.760 ready to see

00:46:38.180 the conclusion

00:46:38.740 of all of this.

00:46:39.320 If you want the truth,

00:46:40.040 I can't handle the truth.

00:46:41.160 I can't take any more.

00:46:42.440 There have just been

00:46:42.920 too many truth bombs today.

00:46:44.880 I wanted to talk

00:46:45.500 about the Las Vegas

00:46:46.320 shooter,

00:46:47.060 the shooter's brother's

00:46:49.140 weird kiddie porn

00:46:50.240 fascination

00:46:50.860 and why he's been

00:46:51.420 arrested,

00:46:52.100 but we don't have time.

00:46:53.020 That's all right.

00:46:53.420 We'll save the kiddie porn

00:46:54.060 for next time.

00:46:55.300 That is our show panel.

00:46:56.540 Thank you for being here

00:46:57.540 and all blonde,

00:46:58.700 all female,

00:46:59.620 all expert panel

00:47:00.600 of Deplorables,

00:47:01.880 Allie Stuckey,

00:47:03.340 Emily Butler,

00:47:04.800 and Ariel Davidson.

00:47:05.960 I am Michael Knowles.

00:47:06.800 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:47:08.060 Come back tomorrow.

00:47:08.800 Get your mailbag questions

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 25, 2017

Ep. 47 - F for Flake： Is Trump RINO Repellant？

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