The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 49 - Mueller Indicts Democrats

00:00:00.000 Former Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort has been indicted for crimes related to lobbying

00:00:05.080 that took place primarily three to five years ago.

00:00:08.800 But while the charges have nothing to do with the Trump campaign itself,

00:00:11.900 special counsel Robert Mueller may have just inculpated top Democrats and the Obama administration.

00:00:17.800 We'll analyze.

00:00:18.660 Then, finally, at long last, Roaming Millennial is back. 0.51

00:00:21.640 Alicia Krauss and his eminence Paul Bois join the panel of deplorables to discuss

00:00:26.820 Kevin Spacey's gay-out-of-jail-free card, John Boehner's bitterness at Republicans and praise for Obama, 0.84

00:00:32.880 surprise, surprise, and why soy boy BuzzFeed betas have so little testosterone.

00:00:38.320 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:46.720 I can't really knock these BuzzFeed betas, by the way, 0.99

00:00:49.420 because these stupid glasses make me look like a hipstery pajama boy, but more on that later. 0.99

00:00:55.100 Okay, let's get to the main story. 1.00

00:00:57.400 The Democrats have their first scalp.

00:00:59.980 Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has been indicted on completely unrelated charges.

00:01:04.760 They also got Manafort's right-hand man, Rick Gates,

00:01:07.360 and they've apparently also reached a plea deal with former campaign advisor George Papadopoulos,

00:01:12.960 not to be confused with George Succulupagus,

00:01:15.920 who is the former Clinton war room Clinton spokesman who pretends to be a journalist on television.

00:01:20.420 This is George Papadopoulos.

00:01:21.620 Nobody, it seems, has yet pointed out that the indictment almost certainly inculpates top Democrats,

00:01:27.640 including Hillary's campaign chairman, John Podesta's brother, Tony.

00:01:31.440 For context, Hillary Clinton was spotted hobnobbing with Tony Podesta just this weekend,

00:01:36.740 just like two days ago.

00:01:38.080 Right now, in so much as this indictment suggests that the Republicans colluded with Russia,

00:01:42.920 whatever that means,

00:01:43.700 we know that the Democrats colluded with Russia at least as much.

00:01:46.680 And really, from all the evidence available to us,

00:01:49.280 the Democrats committed far graver misdeeds in colluding with Russia

00:01:52.920 because we now know that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid a foreigner connected with Russia

00:01:58.160 for alleged dirt on Donald Trump to skew an American election.

00:02:02.020 You know, like the thing that they've been accusing us of for the last year incessantly?

00:02:05.620 Yeah, they did.

00:02:06.260 We have evidence that they did all of that.

00:02:07.660 She then lied not only about the $12 million price tag for that document,

00:02:13.460 but she also absurdly denied any knowledge of it whatsoever.

00:02:17.740 The president's reaction was typically Trumpian.

00:02:20.620 He said,

00:02:21.620 Sorry, but this is years ago, before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign,

00:02:26.740 but why aren't crooked Hillary and the Dems the focus? 0.98

00:02:29.860 With five question marks.

00:02:32.080 He goes on,

00:02:32.520 Also, there is no collusion, in all caps and all, you know, exclamation point.

00:02:38.280 Now, it is worth noting,

00:02:39.860 it appears that President Trump has deleted every tweet about Manafort from his timeline,

00:02:44.460 so the White House is not happy about this, to say the least.

00:02:48.200 Former Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos is cooperating with the special counsel,

00:02:53.640 and he apparently tried to set up a meeting with Russian officials

00:02:57.560 for the purpose of warmer American relations with Russia,

00:03:00.900 you know, to have a Russian reset or something,

00:03:03.160 in order to, and these are his words,

00:03:05.200 increase his importance as a policy advisor to the campaign.

00:03:08.620 So we know that some campaign aide was offered dirt on Hillary.

00:03:12.160 He apparently tried to get his hands on it.

00:03:14.560 So what?

00:03:15.300 That doesn't,

00:03:15.700 we know the Democrats did this.

00:03:17.540 We know they paid millions of dollars for this,

00:03:19.380 and I won't even knock them for it.

00:03:21.340 I will not knock Hillary Clinton for her oppo research per se. 1.00

00:03:24.620 I will knock her for the ridiculous hypocrisy of accusing your opponents 0.99

00:03:28.980 of doing the very things that you do. 0.98

00:03:31.080 But every campaign does this.

00:03:32.660 Every campaign tries to get oppo.

00:03:34.120 They try to get dirt on their opponents.

00:03:35.980 That isn't why Papadopoulos struck a plea deal.

00:03:38.540 The crime that he committed was lying to the FBI.

00:03:41.140 This is always a bad idea.

00:03:42.380 Do not lie to the FBI.

00:03:43.700 They will find you.

00:03:45.660 But the focus on Papadopoulos is a distraction away from Manafort

00:03:49.400 and the Podesta Group,

00:03:51.080 and why this case wasn't prosecuted for so long.

00:03:53.760 We're not talking about crimes that happened six months ago.

00:03:55.860 We're talking about crimes that happened five years ago.

00:03:58.240 So why wasn't it prosecuted?

00:04:00.080 The federal government had all of this information before the election.

00:04:03.860 Why is it being prosecuted now?

00:04:05.340 The text of the indictment points to our answer.

00:04:07.480 It reads, quote,

00:04:08.620 As part of the scheme in February 2012,

00:04:11.160 Manafort and Gates solicited two Washington, D.C. firms,

00:04:15.280 Company A and Company B,

00:04:17.640 to lobby in the United States on behalf of Yanukovych,

00:04:20.720 the party of regions in the government of Ukraine.

00:04:22.820 For instance, Gates wrote to Company A that it would be, quote,

00:04:26.960 representing the government of Ukraine in Washington, D.C.

00:04:30.360 I know what you're thinking.

00:04:31.740 Who exactly are these elusive companies A and B?

00:04:35.460 The indictment goes on.

00:04:36.920 Quote,

00:04:37.160 To minimize public disclosure of their lobbying campaign,

00:04:40.800 Manafort and Gates arranged for the Center for a Modern Ukraine to be the nominal client of Company A and B,

00:04:47.380 even though, in fact, the center was under ultimate direction of the government of Ukraine,

00:04:51.980 Yanukovych, and the party of regions.

00:04:54.340 Tied to Russia.

00:04:55.720 It goes on.

00:04:56.540 At the direction of Manafort and Gates,

00:04:58.760 Company A and Company B engaged in extensive lobbying.

00:05:02.380 Who are they, Company A and B?

00:05:03.880 Well, we know that five days ago, NBC News reported that Mueller is investigating Democrat lobbyist Tony Podesta.

00:05:10.460 The reason that name rings a bell is he's the brother of Hillary's campaign chairman, John Podesta.

00:05:14.980 Now, this report went on and showed that Manafort had organized a PR campaign for this front group,

00:05:21.020 the European Center for a Modern Ukraine.

00:05:23.160 Podesta's company was one of the firms that worked on the campaign.

00:05:25.840 The Podesta group also violated the Foreign Agents Registration Act

00:05:29.240 because it only filed as a foreign agent when it was exposed that they hadn't.

00:05:33.580 So they got caught, and then retroactively they registered as one.

00:05:37.620 Just this afternoon, this broke about an hour ago,

00:05:40.400 Tony Podesta stepped down from the Podesta group amid the investigation.

00:05:44.460 All of the available evidence points to the indictment inculpating not only a major Democrat firm

00:05:50.200 for undisclosed lobbying on behalf of Russian interests,

00:05:53.380 not only a major Clinton crony,

00:05:55.300 but actually the brother of Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman.

00:05:58.540 We're talking about lobbying efforts that took place between 2012 and 2014.

00:06:03.040 That's at least three years ago.

00:06:04.460 That's up to five years ago.

00:06:05.860 What took so long for the prosecution?

00:06:08.800 Well, I don't know.

00:06:09.500 What do we know about Barack Obama's executive agencies during that time?

00:06:12.440 We know they were highly politicized.

00:06:14.220 We know they selectively prosecuted perceived enemies like Dinesh D'Souza.

00:06:17.760 They targeted conservative Tea Party groups through the IRS.

00:06:20.760 We know they ignored major scandals like Fast and Furious,

00:06:24.500 Hillary Clinton's email scandal, on and on and on.

00:06:26.620 Is it possible that the Obama administration didn't prosecute this case for years

00:06:31.540 because it would have implicated top Hillary cronies in the run-up to her presidential run? 1.00

00:06:36.320 The timing sure does make you wonder.

00:06:38.860 For analysis, we bring on our expert panel of deplorables.

00:06:42.880 Alicia Krauss, His Eminence Paul Bois,

00:06:44.860 And at long last, finally, an answer to my prayers, the one and only Roaming Millennial. 0.83

00:06:49.660 Roaming, welcome back.

00:06:51.440 First question to you.

00:06:53.360 Is this indictment a win for Democrats, 0.71

00:06:55.520 or are Democrats going to hope that they never called for this special counsel?

00:07:00.960 I would say that it's not necessarily a win for Democrats,

00:07:04.840 so much as a giant loss for Manafort,

00:07:07.060 who I think we all kind of suspected it was a shady character.

00:07:10.760 Oh, you seem squeaky clean to me.

00:07:12.500 Are you talking about that very heavy, angry look that he always wore?

00:07:17.560 Connections that were coming out.

00:07:19.860 No, I mean, I'm someone who I look at this,

00:07:22.080 and I, like you said, don't think this directly leads to collusion by the Trump campaign specifically.

00:07:27.720 But I think, you know, from what I've seen,

00:07:29.360 a lot of Democratic experts' analysis and commentators aren't really taking it that way.

00:07:34.440 But what I think all these investigations have shown us is that the corruption in at least the Democratic Party

00:07:40.460 and their campaigns is definitely not squeaky clean either.

00:07:43.460 And I would love to say that, oh, you know, this is great.

00:07:45.960 This is going to increase accountability for them.

00:07:48.320 I don't think it's going to change anything really.

00:07:50.460 And, you know, frankly, with this whole who's who, like hot potato game of who's been collaborating with the Russians,

00:07:56.520 I don't think we're ever, I don't know, I don't know if we're ever going to get that satisfaction or the vindication of, like, big prosecutions,

00:08:04.080 like people like Hillary Clinton actually being held accountable or, I don't know, I'm not optimistic that anything will change.

00:08:10.220 But I do know that from what I've seen, people who are against Trump, the Trump campaign, are very, very happy about this.

00:08:16.860 But is it even a big deal?

00:08:18.380 I mean, we don't know who colluded with Russia.

00:08:20.380 We don't really know what that phrase means anymore because either everybody did it or nobody did it.

00:08:26.520 I mean, what's the meat?

00:08:28.880 I'm, of course, this apparently major Trump apologist who will just defend anything he does.

00:08:33.980 Me too.

00:08:34.680 I knew I liked your roaming.

00:08:36.720 Right.

00:08:37.240 But, I mean, when we actually look at what some of these things are, things like opposition information and research,

00:08:42.880 personally, I wouldn't see that the same way as, like, election ringing, right?

00:08:47.460 There is a difference to be had there.

00:08:49.480 And the term colluding with Russians is pretty vague.

00:08:52.160 When we're talking about transferring millions of dollars, though, I think that is substantial, especially to a foreign entity.

00:08:58.060 I think that brings up questions of campaign finance laws, if nothing else.

00:09:01.600 I'm not sure about the legality of it.

00:09:03.580 Just, you know, just inquiring after, I guess, opposition research, though.

00:09:08.280 That's true.

00:09:08.860 And, you know, every campaign has oppo research.

00:09:12.180 But we know that in this case, Hillary Clinton's campaign gave $12 million to get this oppo.

00:09:18.100 So that does raise a lot of questions.

00:09:19.520 That's a good thing.

00:09:20.260 Mm-hmm.

00:09:20.760 Absolutely.

00:09:21.400 Alicia, the White House is insisting that this indictment says nothing about President Trump or his campaign.

00:09:27.540 Are they lying, or is this indictment, to borrow a phrase, a nothing burger?

00:09:32.700 I think that it's hard for both sides to say that this is a nothing burger.

00:09:36.520 But also, I think that you're going to see both sides.

00:09:40.040 A friend, Carol Markowitz, who writes for the New York Post, brought this up.

00:09:42.580 She's like, this is where you see both sides say there's nothing here, and this is where you see the true fans of both sides truly come out.

00:09:49.140 The Hillary Clinton Democratic, you know, DNC fans are going to say nothing to say, or look at there, look at the other guy.

00:09:55.100 And then the Trump people are going to say, oh, well, he didn't collude.

00:09:58.020 There's nothing to see here.

00:09:59.240 Manafort's a good guy.

00:10:00.260 Look at what Hillary and Podesta did.

00:10:01.780 And so I just like to say, shoo on other foot. 0.62

00:10:04.880 We need to hold our side as accountable as, you know, we would want the Democrats to be.

00:10:09.640 And I just got to say, this news cycle is amazing because now Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro and yourself have just used the names in so many ways.

00:10:16.640 Although I do think it's really disappointing.

00:10:18.520 I'm a fan of Sarah Huckabee Sanders as the White House communications person now.

00:10:23.080 She's much better than Spicer ever was.

00:10:25.540 But I got to say, like, she's now using an excuse that the Obama administration used of, quote-unquote, lower-level staffer. 0.99

00:10:32.980 Remember when we heard that time after time?

00:10:35.160 I mean, next we're going to hear that Donald Trump is just finding out about these things from TV.

00:10:38.980 Also another excuse that was often used by the Obama administration.

00:10:42.200 So, Sarah, I love you, girl, but come up with better talking points about this specific issue because you're reminiscent of the good old days of Where's Waldo when he was behind that same podium.

00:10:51.480 And I think we can certainly both agree, whether you prefer Sanders or Spicer.

00:10:55.540 That they are both vastly inferior to Mr. Mooch, Anthony Scaramucci, the finest man to ever hold sort of that position. 0.99

00:11:02.600 Yeah, you have a soft spot in your heart for him, don't you?

00:11:04.880 Oh, you know it.

00:11:06.080 He's probably my cousin or something.

00:11:07.440 Yeah.

00:11:07.920 And as, you know, also on this whataboutism, we should make clear the indictment on Manafort is for lobbying that went on years ago, that went on between 2012 and 2014.

00:11:19.560 People like myself speculated why would Donald Trump hire him in the first place when he had had these connections and had been known by numerous politicians and corporations and groups and lobbyists, et cetera, in D.C. as a guy that was Putin-friendly.

00:11:34.220 And that was a red flag to a lot of conservatives way back during the primary when Donald Trump hired him in the first place.

00:11:39.760 I think it was just to get through that convention.

00:11:42.060 I think he hired him as a – I think he fired him shortly after the convention, and he wanted to basically knock out poor old Ted Cruz.

00:11:49.680 But I don't know.

00:11:50.180 I mean, he had connections going back a long way to Stone, who – you know, Roger Stone also owned a company with Paul Manafort.

00:11:56.680 So it is murky.

00:11:57.760 I agree.

00:11:58.280 It is unclear exactly what Manafort's influence is.

00:12:01.620 Well, and Corey Lewandowski – you know Corey Lewandowski is somewhere.

00:12:03.300 I don't know what he's up to nowadays, and I don't really care, but he probably woke up really happy this morning.

00:12:07.620 Yeah, that's –

00:12:08.200 Because he and Manafort were known to have at it in Trump Tower and not get along very well.

00:12:14.400 And Ivanka and Jared Trump sided with Manafort originally because they wanted Lewandowski out as campaign manager.

00:12:19.900 So it's just – I wish I were a fly on the wall just to see the happenings of what the Trump family really thinks about this behind closed doors.

00:12:27.020 And, you know, Corey Lewandowski is probably doing a happy dance today.

00:12:29.760 Christmas came early for Lewandowski, no question.

00:12:32.280 Your eminence, Mr. Bois, the indictment lists company A&B, one of which, if I were a gambling man, I would say is the Podesta Group.

00:12:40.340 Now, they did undisclosed lobbying for which Manafort is being charged.

00:12:45.220 Why hasn't Mueller named those companies?

00:12:47.060 Why hasn't Tony Podesta been indicted along with Paul Manafort?

00:12:53.380 Well, we know from a NBC News report that was posted like just about an hour ago that most likely that the company's – company A&B is Mercury and, of course, the Podesta Group.

00:13:07.220 Now, my reason as to why he says A&B could just be because one of those are named the Podesta Group.

00:13:15.320 And that just automatically just puts John Podesta out there front and center.

00:13:20.960 And I think possibly they just want to keep it all focused on Manafort and the Trump campaign.

00:13:26.540 And as to why John Podesta has not been indicted yet, I mean, he has stepped down.

00:13:32.960 We'll wait to see what materializes in the next couple days to see if an indictment is on the table for him.

00:13:39.640 So we know that Tony Podesta just stepped down as the head of the Podesta Group amid this investigation.

00:13:44.540 Do we wonder why this hasn't been prosecuted until now?

00:13:49.560 They had this information for years.

00:13:51.280 It's between three and five years old.

00:13:53.120 Do you think, Mr. Bois, that this has something to do with the corruption of the Obama administration and the run-up to Hillary Clinton's presidential run?

00:14:02.280 Absolutely.

00:14:02.880 I think so.

00:14:03.280 I mean, we all know that this Trump-Russia collusion thing is completely cooked up.

00:14:07.140 And, yeah, I would not be afraid to speculate that, no.

00:14:11.680 Well, I would because you might end up like Vince Foster or somebody, man.

00:14:14.380 No, I'm kidding.

00:14:14.880 I'm not going to get into those conspiracy theories.

00:14:17.080 Now, we do have to get into Kevin Spacey cashing in his gay-out-of-jail-free card as well as the beta males at BuzzFeed.

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00:14:49.780 When is this over, Michael?

00:14:51.000 Well, how about this?

00:14:52.080 Does that change your mind?

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00:15:20.460 After 58 years, Kevin Spacey has finally cashed in his gay-out-of-jail-free card. 0.86

00:15:36.060 After being accused of trying to seduce actor Anthony Rapp 30 years ago when Rapp was only 14,

00:15:43.140 Spacey sent out a statement neither confirming nor denying the incident, and then he came out as gay.

00:15:47.820 A revelation only slightly less shocking than the sky's blueness and water's wetness.

00:15:54.340 Roaming.

00:15:55.880 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:15:56.440 I'd like to start with Alicia, actually.

00:15:58.520 Was Spacey's first response the response, yeah, I don't remember if this happened.

00:16:03.000 It sounds really awful.

00:16:03.860 By the way, I'm gay. 0.98

00:16:04.520 Look over here. 0.53

00:16:05.000 I'm gay. 0.61

00:16:05.620 Was that too clever by half, or was it the best response he had to work with?

00:16:09.760 I think that it was a very cynical but brilliant move by his PR team, because as we saw, the

00:16:15.140 mainstream media decided to run with the headline as Kevin Spacey, award-winning actor, comes

00:16:19.340 out as gay, instead of addressing the accusations that a now 40-plus-year-old actor made about

00:16:24.880 him from a molestation attempt when he was 14 years old. 0.93

00:16:28.700 I mean, it's despicable.

00:16:29.960 And it was also very disturbing for me to read Spacey's words saying, well, you know, I was

00:16:35.420 drunk at the time, and I don't remember if this happened or not.

00:16:38.680 Yeah, I mean, we've all probably had a couple too many drinks, and we would know whether

00:16:42.540 or not something like this happened, or had we perpetrated such a crime.

00:16:46.300 It was very vague in its explanations.

00:16:49.160 It wasn't black and white.

00:16:50.780 He should have, if he knew that he wasn't guilty of this, and he could have said, no one

00:16:54.440 else, you know, these people will vouch for me.

00:16:56.520 No one else can say that this ever happened.

00:16:58.320 This never happened again.

00:16:59.860 I'm incredibly embarrassed, you know, something.

00:17:02.020 But he didn't really take ownership of it.

00:17:04.020 But he didn't deny it either.

00:17:06.840 And I mean, I'm not an attorney, but from my layman's view of it, it looked as if he

00:17:11.680 acknowledged that, yes, the event did happen, but look over here because I'm finally coming

00:17:16.420 out of the closet.

00:17:17.580 And now we're hearing more and more reports.

00:17:19.440 There's been a lot of people posting on social media that they have friends and family members

00:17:24.460 that have also been assaulted by Kevin Spacey.

00:17:27.000 And Netflix announced just before your show started, Fox News, CNN, and numerous other outlets

00:17:31.160 are covering it, that House of Cards has been officially canceled by Netflix.

00:17:35.480 Well, that should have been canceled because the show's no good anymore.

00:17:37.980 I mean, it was so good.

00:17:38.700 I know.

00:17:38.720 Season one was the best one.

00:17:39.200 That first season was great.

00:17:40.520 Yeah.

00:17:40.880 But it was really, this season, it's my favorite show and I couldn't even finish it.

00:17:44.440 So maybe they were just looking for an excuse.

00:17:46.480 But it is a lot.

00:17:47.180 And this actually brings up a point.

00:17:49.160 I was tweeting out some snarky comments last night about Spacey and actually I was a little

00:17:53.900 surprised the conservatives were so happy that this guy in particular is going down because

00:17:58.800 he always struck me as sort of quiet, private, doesn't rub his politics in our face.

00:18:03.000 But, you know, I tweeted out something to the effect of, you know, the gay out of jail

00:18:07.380 free court and all that sort of stuff.

00:18:08.780 A gay friend of mine texted me this morning and he said, you know, comments like that are

00:18:12.400 really flippant and they're myopic because this is a phenomenon that has happened in the

00:18:17.920 gay community since the ancient Greeks that confused gay teenagers will look to older gay

00:18:23.660 guys in their 20s or 30s and those relationships are prevalent and they happen and to pretend

00:18:30.320 that they don't and to pretend that all gay relationships should be exactly like heterosexual 0.99

00:18:34.360 relationships misses the point or it's off pitch.

00:18:38.580 I don't know anything about it really.

00:18:40.160 I can only take his word for it.

00:18:41.500 Now, this seems similar to basically what Milo Yiannopoulos was saying and what destroyed

00:18:47.040 his career, you know.

00:18:50.000 Does, I mean, when people make comments like that, is it just apologism for pederasty or

00:18:56.160 pedophilia or does our rote reaction risk turning a willfully blind eye to a phenomenon that is

00:19:03.340 more common than we think?

00:19:04.700 Roaming, what do you think?

00:19:06.200 Well, I think just because a phenomenon may or may not be common, that doesn't mean it's

00:19:09.940 acceptable, permissible or moral, right?

00:19:12.260 And I think as a society, we in general, we tend to minimize assault or molestation when

00:19:18.960 it's against young boys.

00:19:19.960 And I think that's awful, right?

00:19:21.600 And, you know, just hearing, I forget the actor's name, his account of the incident.

00:19:25.480 I mean, you know, he was of this age, but he clearly, I think, doesn't feel like this

00:19:29.000 was just this normal thing and it doesn't matter or, you know, anything like that.

00:19:32.560 This is something that is very serious.

00:19:34.480 And I've, you know, I have heard people in the gay community, men in the gay community

00:19:38.300 talk about these younger, older male relationships as if they're just this normal thing, kind

00:19:43.800 of almost like a mentorship.

00:19:44.680 That's where the word twink comes from, right?

00:19:46.140 That's a, you hear that term all the time.

00:19:48.400 No, no.

00:19:49.000 This is abuse.

00:19:50.340 And, you know, regardless, like we can throw around words like pedophilia, pederasty and

00:19:53.540 kind of debate what, like, what is the age that it actually is pedophilia?

00:19:56.600 I think regardless of, you know, strict definitions like that, when you look at it, these are relationships

00:20:02.060 that have an unequal and uneven power dynamic and where I think people are taking advantage

00:20:06.680 of others.

00:20:07.140 And I don't think, I don't think it's all right.

00:20:09.040 And I really feel for these young men who are maybe confused and in these situations who

00:20:13.360 have these predators who are out to take advantage of them.

00:20:16.660 I think, I think if it's true that Kevin Spacey did this, it's awful.

00:20:19.840 And I think that even since the Harvey Weinstein stuff, it's been become more apparent to me

00:20:24.520 via friends and families and acquaintances and people's stories of, unfortunately, how

00:20:28.800 many young men in our society are sexually assaulted that really weren't, like, the spotlight

00:20:35.720 wasn't put on them during the hashtag MeToo campaign.

00:20:38.260 And this is a problem that exists for men and women in the country.

00:20:41.960 And I think roaming brings up a really good point that young men and teenage boys are typically

00:20:46.860 not looked at as victims.

00:20:48.980 I mean, we've seen this with the sexy teacher scenarios, right?

00:20:52.280 Where were those teachers when I was in school, right?

00:20:54.280 Exactly.

00:20:54.840 And really making light of these types of assaults on young men in the country.

00:20:59.160 And I think it's something that needs to be addressed for sure.

00:21:02.300 Mr. Bois, I always kind of liked Kevin Spacey, as I mentioned.

00:21:05.480 You know, he was a private guy.

00:21:06.580 He's a very good actor.

00:21:07.980 He generally isn't too political.

00:21:12.020 Why are some on the right so gleeful that he has fallen down?

00:21:15.600 I think it's mostly because by Kevin Spacey falling down, it's exposing the broader culture

00:21:24.940 of sexual abuse in Hollywood.

00:21:26.800 This has basically morphed now in just a couple of weeks from Harvey Weinstein to it's a full

00:21:33.940 blown scandal in Hollywood akin to the Catholic Church that happened over there a decade ago.

00:21:39.940 So it's big.

00:21:41.540 And so now no longer Hollywood can stand on their pedestal and go lecture us and say,

00:21:46.280 oh, you conservatives need to stop.

00:21:49.040 Now reality has finally hit them and the fire is spreading.

00:21:53.240 And I think they just see Kevin Spacey as just another one.

00:21:56.020 And they want to know who's going to drop next.

00:21:57.980 Who's going to be the next big name?

00:21:59.200 Who's going to be the next big A-lister? 0.99

00:22:00.380 Unfortunately, you know, Kevin Spacey, it's happening to you.

00:22:03.900 I mean, we've had Ben Affleck be accused of groping women and it doesn't appear that anything-

00:22:09.280 Why can't we keep Kevin Spacey and knock out Affleck? 1.00

00:22:11.700 That guy's such a jerk about politics. 0.98

00:22:13.900 Well, I mean, to get into some more conspiracy theory range here, mostly it's because Ben 0.99

00:22:18.520 Affleck is the front man for Justice League.

00:22:21.600 And I don't think Warner Brothers really wants their front man for one of their top franchises

00:22:26.820 to fall right now.

00:22:27.860 So they're going to do everything they can in their power to ensure the media tries to

00:22:31.900 just downplay his allegations a little bit more.

00:22:34.520 There's also a very big difference between a 26-year-old man assaulting a 14-year-old

00:22:39.360 boy and Ben Affleck, who allegedly was a serial cheater.

00:22:43.500 I mean, this is why Jennifer, a lot of the rumors were fueled by why Jennifer Garner decided 0.92

00:22:47.080 to finally leave him after a decade of him cheating on her numerous times, inappropriately

00:22:52.060 groping a woman at a club.

00:22:53.580 I mean, I feel like this is something that we talked about on an episode of Lady Brains

00:22:58.360 over on Ricochet with my girlfriends the other day.

00:23:00.840 All of us women have been, quote-unquote, victims of sexual harassment in the workplace at some

00:23:05.680 point in our lives, unfortunately. 0.99

00:23:07.200 But there's a big difference between a dude trying to smack your ass, excuse my French, 0.99

00:23:11.820 you know, at a bar when he's drunk and you can respond to him versus a man luring you to 1.00

00:23:17.400 his apartment, picking you up, throwing you on the bed, and then attempting to molest you.

00:23:21.460 Oh, I absolutely agree that the severity of Spacey's allegations are far, far worse than

00:23:26.740 Ben Affleck.

00:23:27.100 I'm just talking about, you know, how far is the industry going to go with this?

00:23:33.720 I mean, are they going to take allegations against Ben Affleck seriously, as they've

00:23:38.180 done other people in the industry?

00:23:39.520 Because other executives in the industry and agents have now been let go amidst harassment

00:23:43.520 allegations.

00:23:44.300 Or are they just going to, you know, stop it with Ben Affleck and say, OK, we're not going

00:23:48.120 to let him fall?

00:23:48.760 So that's mostly what I'm saying.

00:23:50.020 Well, I think it was specifically with the Spacey thing, more people need to fall because

00:23:53.360 now it is coming out that it was a known thing by the cast and crew on his sets to keep young

00:23:59.360 boys away.

00:24:00.120 And that is incredibly disturbing.

00:24:01.920 If it was known by the cast and crew, then it was known by higher ups and it was known

00:24:06.160 by agents and it was known by, I mean, it's just, it's appalling to me.

00:24:10.440 I would never agree to work with someone, let alone stay silent if I knew that that was

00:24:14.720 their behavior.

00:24:15.260 And I think there is also a big difference in how the media is treating things like Spacey

00:24:21.180 and Affleck versus people like Weinstein.

00:24:24.040 And there's also Terry Richardson, who was the photographer, because, you know, these are

00:24:27.960 people who are generally behind the camera, behind the scenes versus actors who we all

00:24:31.620 know and can identify.

00:24:32.580 And studios have a lot of banking on their faces and their public image.

00:24:35.560 So I think if, you know, studios had to choose between who they want to protect more, I think

00:24:38.940 they would be more invested in protecting the actors whose faces and reputation people care

00:24:43.220 more and know a lot more about than people behind the camera like Weinstein.

00:24:47.140 That's the asset.

00:24:48.060 All right.

00:24:48.360 Speaking of abuse and assault, we need to get on to the people assaulting and abusing our

00:24:52.100 country.

00:24:53.140 Former GOP House Majority Leader John Boehner is lashing out at conservative fellow Republicans

00:24:59.140 like Mark Levin and Congressman Jim Jordan while he lavishes praise on Barack Obama.

00:25:04.140 He accused Rush and Sean Hannity of having gone to the, quote, dark side.

00:25:08.460 He reserved one-word, four-letter epithets for his House Republican colleagues.

00:25:13.200 And Boehner said of Obama, quote, some would argue on the right that he did more to divide

00:25:17.440 the country than to unite it.

00:25:19.020 But I kind of reject that notion because it wasn't him.

00:25:22.420 John Boehner, our former leader, ladies and gentlemen. 1.00

00:25:24.940 Roaming, does he have a point or do these stupid comments just vindicate conservatives 1.00

00:25:30.500 criticism of John Boehner? 1.00

00:25:32.640 Honestly, I think they just vindicate the allegations that he was a rhino, not a real conservative. 0.86

00:25:37.520 And I'm someone who also felt very let down by John Boehner.

00:25:40.960 I remember when he was first given the speaker show, he actually teared up when talking about

00:25:45.840 how much he loved small business.

00:25:47.420 I don't know if you guys remember that, but he actually did cry when he was giving his

00:25:51.800 first speech.

00:25:53.240 And in fairness, he also cries when he orders appetizers at lunch.

00:25:57.240 So it's a more common phenomenon.

00:25:58.980 I don't know if he orders his next spray on tan.

00:26:01.060 But just I think he kind of represents the GOP establishment, par for the course, not

00:26:09.200 really looking to change anything.

00:26:10.960 And so I'm actually not surprised that he's doing this.

00:26:13.820 And I see him the same level as I see people like John McCain, who, you know, they're just

00:26:18.280 part of the establishment.

00:26:19.260 And they look at these.

00:26:20.260 I mean, people like Trump, but also other members of the GOP.

00:26:25.260 I don't know, people like Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, who aren't really towing the party line.

00:26:28.340 And I think they care more about politics and protecting the status quo than actual conservatism.

00:26:33.580 I don't even think of John Boehner as a conservative anymore, quite frankly.

00:26:36.600 So I'm not surprised that he's saying all these things.

00:26:38.920 Alicia, are the conservative media, are we unfair to politicians, regardless of what 0.99

00:26:44.200 you think about Boehner's extremely stupid comments? 1.00

00:26:46.500 Are we unfair to them? 1.00

00:26:48.220 You know, it's very easy from a studio with cameras to throw stones at people who aren't

00:26:54.220 being conservative enough.

00:26:55.380 But these guys have to go out there, appease constituencies, strike deals.

00:26:59.100 Should we have more empathy for our Republican politicians?

00:27:02.100 I got to say, I would jump to defend the great one, Mark Levin, but I can't wait to listen

00:27:05.840 to his radio show tonight, because I'm sure, and I know that he is more than capable of

00:27:09.900 doing that for himself.

00:27:11.140 And full disclosure, I did produce the Sean Hannity radio show for seven years for the

00:27:15.880 great American.

00:27:16.740 And even though Sean and I sometimes disagree on politics, during the time that Boehner was

00:27:21.020 Speaker, Sean was incredibly fair to then-Speaker Boehner.

00:27:25.060 I personally booked him numerous times on the Sean Hannity radio show, heard on over 500 affiliates

00:27:30.960 nationwide, folks.

00:27:32.280 I even think that Sean helped him with a couple of re-election things.

00:27:35.280 And it is unbelievable now how the tides have turned, and he's like moping in his whiskey

00:27:40.340 with a cigarette hanging from his mouth.

00:27:43.160 Like, you know, Sean and Russell and Mark Levin were so rude to him at the time.

00:27:48.280 No.

00:27:48.820 And then even a couple months ago, he did an interview where he talked about, it's all

00:27:53.020 talk radio's fault that we got Donald Trump.

00:27:55.540 No.

00:27:55.860 The beautiful thing about this country is our First Amendment, that it allows Michael to

00:27:59.320 sit there in his grandpa cardigan and say what he wants.

00:28:02.260 Grandma cardigan.

00:28:02.720 It allows the great American Sean Hannity to, you know, sit in his studio in New York and

00:28:08.980 talk about what he wants to talk about.

00:28:10.660 And consistently, I actually think that you've seen that talk radio tends to represent the

00:28:15.020 true voice of constituents and the true voice of the American voters far better than John

00:28:19.960 Boehner ever had a grasp on, and that's why he lost his power.

00:28:23.380 Absolutely right.

00:28:24.660 Mr. Boehner, I have interacted with many Republican politicians who have more contempt for their

00:28:29.680 own base than they do for their opponents.

00:28:32.680 Do Boehner's comments validate this Bannon view of the world that we've been seeing, that

00:28:37.580 the politics is not divided between right and left primarily, but primarily between the

00:28:42.500 people and the elites?

00:28:44.780 Oh, absolutely.

00:28:45.760 I think so.

00:28:46.360 This is just right in line.

00:28:47.460 Yeah, I think this is just right in line with the John McCain's and the Mitch McConnell's

00:28:54.340 just, you know, clearly not being a team player, just throwing people, there's hardworking people

00:29:02.400 under the bus and turning Trump into some, you know, ogre that's like part of this like

00:29:08.180 ugly nationalist populist uprising.

00:29:11.680 And there's no legitimacy to it. 0.95

00:29:14.240 So absolutely, absolutely.

00:29:15.300 It only fuels, like Ben Javiro said, this is the reason why Trump won, and it will only

00:29:19.780 fuel his win in 2020 if they want to keep going like this.

00:29:22.060 I'm almost sick and tired of it, frankly.

00:29:23.800 There's so much winning.

00:29:24.900 Okay, now we have to get on to our final story of the day.

00:29:27.280 This is science.

00:29:28.480 We don't want to neglect science on this show.

00:29:30.340 We're not science deniers from our friend Amanda Prestigiacomo at The Daily Wire.

00:29:34.460 There, in an experiment on male attractiveness, where BuzzFeed fellas compete to see who's

00:29:40.640 hottest, four males had their testosterone levels tested.

00:29:45.080 Not one, these are Amanda's words, by the way, but they're just so beautiful.

00:29:48.360 Not one BuzzFeed beta male met the average.

00:29:51.040 Rather, all the men testing below the level of a typical 85-year-old male.

00:29:55.600 Moreover, three of the four men tested below the average range, and the male with the highest

00:30:00.680 testosterone level, Eugene, still had a relatively low T-score. 0.97

00:30:06.080 Now, this is a really personal issue for me, because these stupid glasses that I have to 0.99

00:30:09.980 wear make me look like a little soy boy, too. 1.00

00:30:12.300 Roaming, why does our culture seem built for pajama boys? 0.99

00:30:16.860 Well, you know, with this whole BuzzFeed thing, I saw this actually yesterday, the day before,

00:30:21.280 on Twitter originally, and I was shocked, but also not that shocked.

00:30:25.940 I mean, it kind of explained everything.

00:30:27.480 Everything started to make sense.

00:30:28.920 And when I look at the guys in BuzzFeed, they're just the exact embodiment of what third-way

00:30:34.500 feminism wants men to be and wants them to become, right? 1.00

00:30:37.660 These beta cocks who have as much testosterone as the ladies on The View, right? 1.00

00:30:42.900 And that's kind of what these tests confirm.

00:30:44.440 But how do you really feel?

00:30:48.120 But no, seriously, I look at them, and I look at these test results, and I think they are

00:30:52.700 kind of the, I guess, the realization of the current narrative we're seeing that attacks

00:30:57.240 toxic masculinity, and I think, I mean, I don't want to make too broad generalizations or assume

00:31:02.040 motives or things about people who may adhere to the progressive viewpoint, but I do think

00:31:07.960 that a lot of the men I see attracted to that, all the activists, BuzzFeed, Vox, whatever,

00:31:13.000 HuffPo, they do kind of seem on the lower end of the testosterone scale.

00:31:18.700 And I think that says a lot about the ideology of how much they tend to play into things like

00:31:25.780 emotion versus things like facts and logic, which tend to be things associated with higher

00:31:31.040 testosterone, masculinity, and men in general, which obviously these BuzzFeed individuals

00:31:36.500 are not.

00:31:37.500 Do we have a cut of these guys just for a little context on what we're talking about here?

00:31:42.180 Today we're going to find out which one of you guys is the hottest try guy, scientifically,

00:31:46.660 of course.

00:31:47.660 Hotness!

00:31:48.660 It's science, baby!

00:31:50.100 What actually makes a man attractive?

00:31:52.140 Today, more than ever, society and media appreciate hot men, like us, for instance.

00:31:57.620 And we wondered if that sexiness could be boiled down to a science.

00:32:00.940 We're here to find out if the prevailing theories about male beauty have any truth to them.

00:32:04.580 And we're the test subjects.

00:32:06.420 The try guys are going to be conducting six experiments. 0.99

00:32:08.980 We're going to draw our blood, measure our faces, and all sorts of wacky shit. 0.98

00:32:12.880 I'm going to win all the categories today because I'm the most beautiful, beautiful 0.98

00:32:16.140 Keith in the rest.

00:32:16.960 Marshall, can you please destroy these glasses for me?

00:32:20.880 Can you take these wherever you, like a nuclear waste site and make sure that they never see

00:32:26.260 the light of day again?

00:32:27.260 Thank you.

00:32:28.080 Alicia, is this a generational trend or is this just more evidence that there is a huge divide

00:32:34.580 between the American people and these weird elite elites that are in media and journalism

00:32:41.300 and government?

00:32:41.900 I mean, giving those guys the benefit of the doubt, I think they were kind of making fun

00:32:46.080 of themselves there.

00:32:46.860 Yeah, I think so.

00:32:47.900 It's very humorous.

00:32:49.200 I'll have to go watch the full thing.

00:32:50.640 But I actually think that any conservative men that are watching your show right now should

00:32:55.400 be rejoicing because you have to compete with that and that ain't much, guys.

00:32:59.340 So get out there, get married, be fruitful and multiply.

00:33:02.220 This is my plan for conservatives to take over the United States again.

00:33:05.800 I don't know if I've mentioned this before.

00:33:08.340 The then governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels, I was talking to him one time at an event in

00:33:13.640 Indiana and we were saying, listen, it's looking really dire.

00:33:18.520 Obama was president.

00:33:19.800 Everything was against us.

00:33:20.980 What do we do?

00:33:21.720 How do we win the culture and win the politics?

00:33:24.660 He said, well, you can either persuade them or you can find a nice girl and get married

00:33:30.400 and outbreed them.

00:33:31.320 I promise you the latter is more fun.

00:33:33.360 It does sound more fun to me.

00:33:35.080 Mr. Bois, your eminence.

00:33:36.940 A study came out recently which showed that more effeminate men are also more likely to

00:33:41.680 be socialist, which surprised, again, exactly nobody in the whole world.

00:33:46.860 Now, doesn't this observation imply that our political views are not entirely rational

00:33:52.900 but also shaped by something as elemental as hormones or else it just means that masculine

00:33:57.780 people are more rational?

00:33:58.900 Doesn't this throw into chaos our idea that facts don't care about your feelings and we

00:34:04.820 have access to rational truth?

00:34:08.400 You know, that is a very interesting question.

00:34:11.060 Well, that's why I asked it, pal, because I think it's pretty interesting.

00:34:13.540 As far as hormones, I mean, it certainly is built into the male character, absolutely, that

00:34:23.220 a male character is supposed to, the male is supposed to lay his life on the line for

00:34:28.220 the sake of his community and his family and his wife.

00:34:32.180 And I think the moment that that identity has gone out the window, which certainly has

00:34:35.980 in the past 50 years, and man and males are just basically sitting around and pleasuring

00:34:42.560 themselves and consuming things, I think the more effeminate their outlook becomes.

00:34:48.100 By the way, I just have to cut you off there.

00:34:49.760 Do you have a camera in my apartment?

00:34:52.020 If you put a camera in my apartment, Paul, take it out right now.

00:34:54.440 It's a crime.

00:34:55.100 Home only men are always going to be males and they're always going to have that aspect, 0.97

00:34:58.660 that natural part of it, but the socialization of them, of turning that into that energy,

00:35:03.800 that power into something that's useful, once that goes away, essentially what you're

00:35:08.660 going to have is just basically a bunch of boys, overgrown boys, and that's what happens.

00:35:13.840 Roaming, are our hormones, are they controlling our thought processes?

00:35:17.600 Are we just little people riding on the big elephant of the subconscious, or can we rely

00:35:24.080 on our faculties of reason?

00:35:25.260 I think we can rely on our faculties of reason, and I don't think hormones mean that no one

00:35:32.780 is logical, no one is rational, I just think hormones mean that some people who tend to

00:35:38.000 be more feminine and effeminate males, or women in general, rely less on their faculties,

00:35:43.400 right?

00:35:43.580 And we've seen this in multiple studies, men and people who are more masculine, whether

00:35:48.180 it's men or women in terms of their hormone levels, they're more rational, more logical,

00:35:53.100 they care more about facts, and hormones like estrogen, which women have in abundance, and 1.00

00:35:58.380 apparently the BuzzFeed men probably do as well, that tends to make people more emotional

00:36:02.920 and more into feeling and things like that.

00:36:04.980 And I think when we look at leftist arguments, a lot of them are based on emotions versus actual

00:36:10.200 hard facts.

00:36:10.800 A lot of them are trying to make government into some big compassionate family, which is generally

00:36:15.900 the domain and realm of women. 1.00

00:36:17.540 So, you know, I don't think it's that no one's thinking, we're all just slaves to our hormones.

00:36:22.400 I think it's just that for our hormones kind of guide how much or little we depend on our

00:36:27.840 facts and logic, and for some people, that's very, very little.

00:36:32.820 Roaming Millennial channeling Jack Nicholson in as good as it gets. 0.84

00:36:36.280 How do you write women so well? 1.00

00:36:37.600 I think of a man.

00:36:38.780 That is all the time we have for today.

00:36:40.280 We've covered all of the most important news right down to the Soy Boys panel.

00:36:44.720 Thank you for being here.

00:36:45.960 Roaming Millennial, one of our earliest panelists, our dear favorite.

00:36:50.760 And Daily Wire's Alicia Krass.

00:36:52.280 Daily Wire's His Eminence, Paul Bois.

00:36:54.740 I am Michael Knowles.

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Ep. 49 - Mueller Indicts Democrats

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