The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 491 - Mitt Romney Has Always Been Awful

00:00:00.000 President Trump has officially been acquitted in the Senate's farce impeachment trial,

00:00:05.220 but not before snake in the grass Mitt Romney gets in one last little nip

00:00:09.160 before being relegated to ignominy and obscurity.

00:00:13.040 We will compare sanctimonious backstabbers with serious and successful conservatives.

00:00:18.260 Then the Trump administration leaks a draft of perhaps the single most important executive order

00:00:24.840 we will see in our lifetimes to make America beautiful again.

00:00:30.420 Finally, Andrew Yang reminds us why the left, no matter how eccentric, should never be trusted.

00:00:35.540 All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:45.600 This is the way impeachment ends, not with a bang, but a whimper.

00:00:51.200 It's over. The president has been acquitted.

00:00:53.180 We all knew that that was going to happen, and now it happened.

00:00:56.920 Now it's over, and we can move on.

00:00:59.200 But before it was over, at that very last moment,

00:01:03.180 Mitt freaking Romney had to get in one last little jab at the president. 1.00

00:01:09.020 So there were two charges against the president.

00:01:13.280 There was the charge of abuse of power and then obstruction of Congress.

00:01:17.660 There was no charge of any crime.

00:01:19.320 The House Democrats were considering a third charge of bribery,

00:01:23.100 which would be the only impeachable offense.

00:01:25.400 They dropped that because they didn't have evidence.

00:01:28.360 On the charge of abuse of power, the final vote was 52 to 48.

00:01:35.540 52 to acquit the president, 48 to convict him.

00:01:38.860 On the charge of obstruction of Congress, the final vote was 53 to 47.

00:01:50.620 Now, there are 535 members of Congress.

00:01:55.600 There are 435 members in the House.

00:01:58.360 There are 100 members in the Senate.

00:02:01.280 The reason that those two votes were different is because Mitt Romney voted to convict the president on abuse of power.

00:02:11.800 And Mitt Romney did that because Mitt Romney hates Trump.

00:02:14.260 Here is Romney's reasoning.

00:02:15.780 The Constitution established the vehicle of impeachment that has occupied both houses of our Congress these many days.

00:02:22.460 We have labored to faithfully execute our responsibilities to it.

00:02:26.160 We have arrived at different judgments, but I hope we respect each other's good faith.

00:02:32.640 The allegations made in the articles of impeachment are very serious.

00:02:37.120 As a senator juror, I swore an oath before God to exercise impartial justice.

00:02:45.300 I am profoundly religious.

00:02:49.220 My faith is at the heart of who I am.

00:02:51.840 I take an oath before God as enormously consequential.

00:02:56.680 I knew from the outset that being tasked with judging the president, the leader of my own party,

00:03:02.940 would be the most difficult decision I have ever faced.

00:03:07.060 I was not wrong.

00:03:08.480 The most difficult decision that St. Mitt would ever face.

00:03:12.120 The principled conservative.

00:03:14.020 The true conservative.

00:03:15.260 Not like that fraud.

00:03:17.100 Donald Trump.

00:03:17.920 Why did Mitt Romney do this?

00:03:19.020 The reason this matters, this one vote matters, obviously it's not going to determine whether or not the president gets acquitted,

00:03:24.480 but the reason that it matters is it means that the Democrats can now say that this was a bipartisan impeachment.

00:03:33.120 In the House, when the House passed the articles of impeachment, no Republicans voted for it because there weren't any snakes in the grass like Mitt Romney.

00:03:39.540 So it was all the Democrats voting for impeachment and Democrats and Republicans voting against impeachment in the House.

00:03:45.860 Then you get to the Senate and it was a completely party line vote.

00:03:49.780 The conservative Democrats didn't come over and the squishy Republicans didn't go over to the other side. 0.97

00:03:54.280 With the exception of that sanctimonious snake in the grass, Mitt Romney.

00:03:59.080 In 2012, I had the distinction of working on the campaigns of two of Mitt Romney's primary challengers.

00:04:07.360 I have been calling Mitt Romney a snake in the grass for a very long time and I've never felt prouder of that intuition and decision.

00:04:14.160 We will get to the principled Mitt Romney, dating all the way back to the 90s because film and the internet are forever.

00:04:20.900 However, we will get to this wonderful, maybe the most conservative executive order that any president has ever issued or leaked to possibly issue.

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00:05:41.640 The principled Mitt Romney had to, he had to vote for these bogus charges of impeachment that no other Republican bought at all

00:05:52.760 because they were ridiculous, they were historic.

00:05:55.740 The Democrats couldn't even charge the president with a crime, couldn't even charge him with an impeachable offense. 0.55

00:06:00.420 But the lone conservative Mitt Romney realized how important it was to convict.

00:06:06.620 He didn't.

00:06:07.160 It has nothing to do with principles at all.

00:06:08.700 Mitt Romney just hates Trump.

00:06:10.180 He hates Trump because Trump became the president and Romney didn't become the president because he was a flawed candidate.

00:06:16.360 Mitt Romney has flip-flopped and sold his principles at every single turn in his political career, which is fine.

00:06:22.800 Politicians do that. 0.99

00:06:23.760 I actually give them a lot of grace on it.

00:06:25.720 But the trouble about Romney is he's just so damn sanctimonious about it.

00:06:30.600 Let's take a little trip down memory line to the principled Mitt Romney running for Senate against Ted Kennedy in the 90s.

00:06:37.040 He's asked about the legacy of Ronald Reagan, that other actual true conservative.

00:06:43.200 And what does Romney say?

00:06:44.420 Does he say, I'm inheriting the mantle of Ronald Reagan?

00:06:47.020 No.

00:06:47.240 He says, I was not a conservative during Reagan-Bush.

00:06:50.020 I was an independent during Reagan-Bush.

00:06:52.720 Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush.

00:06:55.260 I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.

00:06:56.840 No, I don't want to return to that.

00:06:58.340 Are you kidding me?

00:06:58.840 I'm a principled conservative.

00:06:59.860 I don't want to go back to the policies of Ronald Reagan.

00:07:02.660 How about on other issues?

00:07:03.780 Get past just a politician like Ronald Reagan.

00:07:08.100 How about on issues like, say, abortion?

00:07:10.740 Here is Mitt Romney, true conservative, capital T, capital C, trademark over the E, back in the day.

00:07:16.360 I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country.

00:07:19.460 I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate.

00:07:24.560 I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it.

00:07:30.600 And I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice.

00:07:35.240 That's Mitt Romney.

00:07:36.460 He supports the right of women to make that choice.

00:07:39.120 Now, I'll point out, Donald Trump held the same position on abortion back in the late 90s,

00:07:46.140 back when President Trump was considering running for the Reform Party nomination.

00:07:50.060 What's the difference here?

00:07:50.880 Donald Trump was asked about his flip-flop on it, and he said, yeah, I changed my mind.

00:07:55.460 I used to have this opinion, then I realized I was wrong, and I changed my mind.

00:07:59.960 Trump, for all of his flaws, doesn't get sanctimonious.

00:08:03.180 If anything, he plays the sanctimony down a little bit.

00:08:06.940 He doesn't pretend to be very pious and very principled all the time.

00:08:10.900 He just says, yeah, I changed my mind.

00:08:12.240 I didn't know a whole lot about the issue.

00:08:13.480 Now I've learned about it.

00:08:16.280 Mitt Romney, who cast the lone Republican vote against President Trump,

00:08:20.880 he didn't always publicly hate President Trump.

00:08:24.120 Actually, back when he ran in 2012, he welcomed President Trump's endorsement.

00:08:29.720 Here's just a little clip.

00:08:30.900 There are some things that you just can't imagine happening in your life.

00:08:33.900 This is one of them.

00:08:34.680 Being in Donald Trump's magnificent hotel and having his endorsement is a delight.

00:08:41.300 I'm so honored and pleased to have his endorsement.

00:08:44.060 And, of course, I'm looking for the endorsement of the people of Nevada.

00:08:46.680 And Donald Trump has shown an extraordinary ability to understand how our economy works to create jobs for the American people.

00:08:57.380 He's done it here in Nevada.

00:08:59.020 He's done it across the country.

00:09:00.800 He understands that our economy is facing threats from abroad.

00:09:04.720 He's one of the few people who stood up and said, you know what, China has been cheating. 0.94

00:09:08.460 They've taken jobs from Americans. 0.99

00:09:10.660 They haven't played fair.

00:09:11.580 We have to have a president who will stand up to cheaters.

00:09:14.220 I spent my life in the private sector, not quite as successful as this guy, but successful nonetheless,

00:09:20.180 sufficiently successful to understand what it takes to get America to be the most attractive place in the world

00:09:25.760 for innovators, entrepreneurs, and business and job creators.

00:09:30.720 So I want to say thank you to Donald Trump for his endorsement.

00:09:33.800 It means a great deal to me to have the endorsement of Mr. Trump and people across this country who care about the future of America.

00:09:41.760 It means a great deal to get Donald Trump's endorsement.

00:09:45.480 It means a great deal to him.

00:09:46.780 It's such an honor.

00:09:48.320 Because Donald Trump has done a whole lot better in business than Mitt Romney, not my words, Mitt's.

00:09:52.720 Because Donald Trump, beyond his business success, has a keen understanding of our economic problems.

00:10:01.940 He has a keen understanding of our foreign policy.

00:10:04.480 This was no ordinary endorsement when Trump agrees to endorse Romney.

00:10:08.440 Romney gets up there and gives a full-throated endorsement right back of Donald Trump.

00:10:13.660 Because Romney was getting something for it at the time.

00:10:16.400 Because Romney was personally benefiting from it.

00:10:20.140 So he just said words.

00:10:21.160 But then later on, not, what, three, four years later, he contradicted every single one of those words. 1.00

00:10:27.720 Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. 0.99

00:10:30.380 His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University. 1.00

00:10:38.180 His domestic policies would lead to recession.

00:10:42.220 His foreign policies would make America and the world less safe.

00:10:46.040 He has neither the temperament nor the judgment to be president.

00:10:48.620 And his personal qualities would mean that America would cease to be a shining city on a hill.

00:10:55.480 His bankruptcies have crushed small businesses and the men and women who work for them.

00:11:01.540 He inherited his business.

00:11:03.000 He didn't create it.

00:11:04.500 And whatever happened to Trump Airlines?

00:11:07.160 How about Trump University?

00:11:09.140 And then there's Trump Magazine and Trump Vodka and Trump Steaks and Trump Mortgage.

00:11:15.040 A business genius he is not.

00:11:18.560 Well, he's more successful in business than you, Mitt.

00:11:21.020 That's according to your own words from three years earlier.

00:11:23.400 So what does that make you? 0.98

00:11:25.300 If Trump isn't a business genius, then are you a business dunce? 0.99

00:11:29.360 No, you're just disingenuous. 0.91

00:11:31.380 It's an amazing speech that he gave during the 2016 election.

00:11:39.000 Because it's not just that he says, hey, I really don't like this guy.

00:11:41.740 I think he's bad news.

00:11:42.720 I think he's bad for the Republican Party.

00:11:44.180 He's bad for the office of the president.

00:11:46.620 He doesn't just say that.

00:11:47.640 That would be at least defensible.

00:11:50.140 It's an election campaign.

00:11:51.400 People say a lot of things.

00:11:52.400 He goes through his past endorsement of Donald Trump point by point and says the opposite of everything he said then.

00:12:04.080 Three, four years earlier, he said, Donald Trump is a great businessman, a better businessman than me.

00:12:10.600 Then he says Donald Trump is a business failure.

00:12:12.660 He knows nothing about business. 1.00

00:12:14.220 He's a fraud. 0.91

00:12:15.560 Three years, four years earlier, he said, Donald Trump knows how to deal with China, 0.91

00:12:20.360 knows how to deal with our foreign adversaries.

00:12:23.360 Four years later, what's he say?

00:12:25.080 Donald Trump's foreign policy would be a disaster.

00:12:27.960 Four years earlier, he says Donald Trump's economic policies are wonderful.

00:12:31.600 He has a keen understanding of the economy.

00:12:33.980 Four years later, Donald Trump's economic policies would lead to recession.

00:12:39.120 Point by point by point.

00:12:42.420 So he was either lying then in 2012, or he was lying in 2016, or somewhere in that three or four year period,

00:12:53.480 everything wonderful about Donald Trump that Mitt Romney had praised completely fell apart.

00:12:57.640 Which one was it?

00:12:58.700 Which do you think?

00:13:00.800 Romney has done this his entire career.

00:13:03.960 So he goes after Trump.

00:13:05.640 He lambasts him in the 2016 election.

00:13:09.420 But then, that's not the end of the story.

00:13:12.840 Mitt Romney then goes back and thanks the president.

00:13:17.520 Embraces the president's support when he was running for senator in Utah just a couple years ago.

00:13:24.200 He tweeted out, quote,

00:13:25.080 Thank you, Mr. President, for the support.

00:13:27.560 I hope that over the course of the campaign, I also earn the support and endorsement of the people of Utah.

00:13:32.660 Well, if he's a fraud, if he's a disaster, if he's a con man, 0.98

00:13:35.880 why the hell would you welcome his support? 0.99

00:13:38.120 You welcome the support of con men who would destroy our country, 0.99

00:13:43.280 who would lead us into foreign chaos, 1.00

00:13:45.060 whose economic policies would lead to recession,

00:13:47.760 who's defrauded people for his whole career?

00:13:50.040 You welcome the support of that kind of man?

00:13:52.840 Of course he does.

00:13:54.700 Because Trump was popular.

00:13:57.200 Trump won the election.

00:13:59.080 And Romney is just a glad-handing politician.

00:14:02.520 Okay, fine.

00:14:04.000 Politicians, politics makes strange bedfellows.

00:14:06.840 I understand that.

00:14:08.400 The problem here is with Mitt's sanctimony.

00:14:12.220 You know, I saw this in 2012.

00:14:13.840 I just knew it.

00:14:14.660 The guy was an empty suit.

00:14:16.700 That's fine.

00:14:17.160 There are a lot of politicians who are empty suits.

00:14:18.840 But then don't stand up there and pretend to be the standard-bearer of conservatism,

00:14:24.580 to pretend to be purer than the newly driven snow.

00:14:27.160 Mitt Romney certainly does not get that.

00:14:30.720 And his vote was pure vindictiveness.

00:14:34.320 Because it doesn't matter to history.

00:14:37.820 It doesn't.

00:14:38.180 Look, the president's going to be acquitted.

00:14:40.320 It has nothing to do with the arguments.

00:14:42.360 The House impeachment managers did not make a single argument that the president committed an impeachable offense.

00:14:48.560 Not one.

00:14:49.360 They didn't even try.

00:14:50.240 It matters because he had to get that last nip at the only thing that Mitt Romney had the power to do

00:14:58.760 was to try to make it look as though this was a bipartisan impeachment process.

00:15:03.680 535 members of Congress, one Republican, that one Republican was the one who voted for this.

00:15:11.260 And I don't think it was out of principles.

00:15:12.840 I think it was out of petty, personal animosity.

00:15:16.320 But that's fine because we're just moving right along.

00:15:19.760 And there was a news report last night that President Trump is considering issuing an executive order

00:15:26.900 that no one's really going to talk about.

00:15:28.480 It's actually only being discussed in architectural blogs.

00:15:31.600 But it is maybe the most important executive order of my lifetime that we will ever see.

00:15:38.380 We'll get to that in a second.

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00:16:25.720 This executive order that President Trump is considering is called the

00:16:31.360 Make Federal Buildings Beautiful Again executive order.

00:16:37.620 We've got Make America Great Again.

00:16:38.860 Now we've got Make America Beautiful Again.

00:16:41.900 Now, who cares about federal buildings?

00:16:43.840 I do.

00:16:44.620 I care a lot.

00:16:45.400 I have been in Washington, D.C. for three weeks now filming the Verdict podcast with Ted Cruz.

00:16:50.960 And it's wonderful.

00:16:51.960 I love being in Washington because in certain areas of D.C. the architecture is really beautiful.

00:16:59.220 You walk by the White House.

00:17:00.260 You walk by Treasury.

00:17:01.420 You walk by all of these beautiful classical buildings.

00:17:04.920 And you say, wow, this is grand.

00:17:06.340 I feel good about my country.

00:17:08.540 I like seeing beautiful things.

00:17:09.760 And then parts of D.C.

00:17:11.800 You walk by some of the buildings that were built in the 60s, 70s, 80s.

00:17:15.720 And they're hideous.

00:17:16.640 They're just ugly buildings. 0.68

00:17:18.180 Some built in that brutalist style of architecture, which is just ugly.

00:17:23.160 President Trump is considering passing an executive order mandating a return to classical architectural

00:17:31.400 style for federal buildings.

00:17:34.020 He wants to stop wasting your taxpayer money on ugly buildings.

00:17:39.460 And I could not be more pleased about it.

00:17:42.200 So the draft of the executive order is, the classical architectural style shall be the

00:17:47.260 preferred and default style for new and upgraded federal buildings.

00:17:51.820 It suggests that we should have buildings that remind us of the classical models of Democratic

00:17:58.000 Athens and Republican Rome. 0.91

00:17:59.860 And we had this for the early buildings in Washington, D.C., and then a bunch of lunatics decided 0.76

00:18:04.840 to make everything ugly in the 60s and 70s.

00:18:07.440 In 1962, the federal government issued the Guiding Principles for Federal Architecture.

00:18:14.480 And what the Guiding Principles said was that, quote, an official style must be avoided.

00:18:21.000 Went on, it said, design must flow from the architectural profession to the government and not vice

00:18:26.740 versa.

00:18:27.040 So whatever artists want to make of our federal buildings, that's what they should be able

00:18:33.220 to make.

00:18:33.580 Now, of course, that doesn't make sense because the federal government is hiring the artists.

00:18:37.680 But what the order more or less said was federal buildings should look hip and modern and avant-garde

00:18:46.200 and hideous.

00:18:47.100 So the draft document uses these words, dignity, enterprise, vigor, stability, and declares officially

00:18:54.640 that brutalist and deconstructivist styles of architecture, those just ugly styles from

00:19:00.020 the 70s, quote, fail to satisfy these requirements and shall not be used.

00:19:05.160 I love this.

00:19:06.000 You know, the great Roger Scruton, who just died recently, but he was maybe the greatest

00:19:11.260 living conservative philosopher, he didn't spend all his time talking about tax policy

00:19:16.820 or certain political issues.

00:19:18.980 He talked about beauty.

00:19:21.520 Edmund Burke, who was the first modern conservative philosopher, he was an aesthetic philosopher.

00:19:27.980 He was a philosopher of beauty.

00:19:29.900 Roger Scruton said that the way to make people want to conserve their culture and their country

00:19:38.340 is to give them beautiful places to live in.

00:19:42.020 A great example of this is when you get into New York.

00:19:44.280 If you get into New York on the east side, you enter Grand Central Station.

00:19:49.320 It's grand.

00:19:50.660 It's big.

00:19:51.760 It's built in the Beaux-Arts style of architecture.

00:19:55.260 Ornamented, grand.

00:19:56.180 You walk in there and you feel like a king.

00:19:57.840 On the other side of town, on the west side, you get into the new Penn Station, which is

00:20:03.020 underground.

00:20:04.060 It's cramped.

00:20:04.960 It's ugly.

00:20:06.600 There's nothing ornate or beautiful about it. 0.88

00:20:09.160 There's nothing clean or classical about it. 0.96

00:20:10.800 It's just gross. 0.97

00:20:11.580 And you enter New York at Penn feeling like a rat. 0.89

00:20:15.720 Those are the differences.

00:20:16.680 It actually matters.

00:20:18.060 I mean, I think conservatives were so pragmatic sometimes that we just care about lowering

00:20:22.880 our taxes, getting to keep our guns, and moving on with our lives.

00:20:26.700 But when we look around us, that affects how we feel.

00:20:31.740 Our environment affects how we feel, how we behave, how we feel about ourselves and about

00:20:36.440 our country.

00:20:37.520 There's a reason people come from all over the country to look at those big, beautiful

00:20:40.260 buildings in Washington, D.C.

00:20:42.320 They don't go over to those ugly, brutalist office buildings, do they?

00:20:45.880 Anyway, what this shows me, it relates to the point on Mitt Romney, is that Donald Trump

00:20:52.100 gets it, whether he drafted this or he told some guy to draft this or he merely hired the

00:20:57.120 guy who drafted this.

00:20:59.920 In the White House, there is an understanding or an intuition of a real depth of conservatism

00:21:07.120 here that technocrat liberals like Mitt Romney just do not possess, are not capable of possessing.

00:21:14.720 I would say other than saving all those babies, which President Trump's policies have done,

00:21:21.900 he's been the most pro-life president we've ever had, and every one of those human lives

00:21:27.220 that's saved, those innocent lives that are saved because of those policies are worth more

00:21:32.180 than every building in the world.

00:21:34.560 But other than that work, this could be the most important thing that the president does

00:21:39.460 by making America beautiful again.

00:21:42.700 It changes our perspective on how we look at it.

00:21:45.100 There's a relationship between the good, the true, and the beautiful.

00:21:47.740 I so, so strongly encourage President Trump to come out with his executive order.

00:21:54.040 You know I never ask anything of you.

00:21:56.400 Write your congressman.

00:21:57.820 I mean, this is so important.

00:21:59.580 It's so out of the box.

00:22:00.640 No other conservative politician in my lifetime has suggested anything like it.

00:22:05.060 And it really, really matters because beauty matters.

00:22:08.400 And I guess Trump would be the guy to do this because Trump's a real estate developer.

00:22:11.420 That's what he spent his whole career doing.

00:22:13.620 And if that is, frankly, if that is all we get out of the Trump administration, if he doesn't

00:22:18.620 even build the wall but he just builds beautiful buildings in Washington, D.C., that would be

00:22:21.920 a major, major win.

00:22:24.320 We've got to get to Andrew Yang reminding us not to trust the left even when they're kind of

00:22:30.160 funny and eccentric.

00:22:31.440 But first, back in July of last year, I told you about this show, Apollo 11, What We Saw.

00:22:39.380 The host, our pal Bill Whittle, took you back in time to what it was like to live through

00:22:43.840 the space age and one of the greatest endeavors of mankind, the moon landing.

00:22:48.260 Now, Bill has hosted a new season of that show.

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00:23:26.460 these events were happening.

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00:23:32.060 these events, you start to understand the battle, not only for economic freedom, but for

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00:23:54.920 important story.

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00:23:58.160 Andrew Yang has come out and reminded us of why, no matter how fun or wacky or out there

00:24:09.600 leftists are, we cannot trust them.

00:24:13.420 Do not be tempted.

00:24:14.900 Andrew Yang said something that was true and important and interesting in this debate over

00:24:21.660 big tech censorship.

00:24:22.480 A key question is whether big tech companies are publishers or platforms.

00:24:29.420 So if they're publishers, then they need to be held responsible for the content that goes

00:24:33.320 out on their platform, and they can curate and they can censor, but they also have to

00:24:38.140 be responsible for copyright infringement, intellectual property, right?

00:24:41.900 If they're a platform, if they're just neutral, then they can't be censoring people.

00:24:46.220 They can't be completely curating and censoring their content.

00:24:50.300 Andrew Yang came out on the right side of that question.

00:24:54.320 He said Facebook is acting as a publisher.

00:24:57.140 But then he came to the completely wrong conclusion.

00:24:59.680 Here's Andrew Yang.

00:25:00.900 If they're watching, especially Mark Zuckerberg, what do you say to him right now?

00:25:05.080 Say, Mark, your company is contributing to the disintegration of our democracy.

00:25:10.780 If you're an American and a patriot and you care about the country your kids will inherit,

00:25:14.700 then you need to have Facebook step up and say there will not be untrue political ads on your

00:25:20.840 platform.

00:25:22.080 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:25:22.640 Hold on.

00:25:23.260 So Yang is acknowledging that Facebook is behaving as a publisher.

00:25:28.660 But his solution to that is to make Facebook behave even more like a publisher and kick off

00:25:34.140 all the people who disagree, presumably, with Andrew Yang.

00:25:37.480 What is an untrue political post?

00:25:40.100 There are a lot of debates in politics.

00:25:43.580 Politics actually is debate.

00:25:45.060 And we have a self-governing republic.

00:25:46.480 So that's the definition of our politics is that we disagree about things.

00:25:50.500 And politics takes place in the debates between those different ideas.

00:25:55.740 If you're going to just kick the quote unquote untrue political ideas off of Facebook, you are

00:26:02.880 censoring half the country.

00:26:04.780 You are stifling that debate.

00:26:06.320 You are undermining the great American democracy that Andrew Yang says he's trying to defend.

00:26:12.320 And this is the way that all liberals seem to go when they follow their ideas to their

00:26:17.660 logical conclusions.

00:26:18.920 Whether they are establishment liberals like Joe Biden or wacky socialist liberals like Bernie

00:26:26.120 Sanders or Elizabeth Warren or techno-futurist liberals like Andrew Yang.

00:26:30.540 It all seems to converge on this point of liberalism being the only valid viewpoint.

00:26:39.460 And any viewpoint that contradicts liberalism has got to be gotten rid of.

00:26:44.820 They all do it to their two different degrees.

00:26:48.060 And Andrew Yang is now showing his cards.

00:26:50.820 He goes on.

00:26:51.820 You said they're going to make them.

00:26:53.180 What do you mean by make, Mr. Yang?

00:26:55.000 Well, my first preference is to sit down with a major organization like Facebook and say,

00:27:00.100 hey, do the right thing.

00:27:01.020 But if they don't want to do the right thing, then we have a legislature for a reason.

00:27:05.240 We should just pass a law saying Facebook should not have verifiably false political

00:27:10.200 advertisements on their platform.

00:27:11.700 And if they do, then they should pay a penalty accordingly.

00:27:15.940 Verifiably false political advertising.

00:27:18.140 What is verifiably false political advertising?

00:27:20.280 If I come out and say, we need to lower taxes or the economy is not going to grow.

00:27:28.500 Is that verifiably false?

00:27:30.280 A lot of liberals would say it's verifiably false.

00:27:32.520 And they'll pull up a ton of statistics and a ton of studies to show that what I said is

00:27:36.000 verifiably false.

00:27:37.920 What if a liberal comes out and says, we need to raise taxes because that'll be really good

00:27:42.140 for the economy.

00:27:43.320 Is that verifiably false? 0.94

00:27:44.660 Yeah, damn right it is. 0.89

00:27:45.580 I could pull out a lot of statistics and a lot of studies on that too. 0.95

00:27:48.160 And then we could debate it and argue about it.

00:27:50.960 Once we get past the statistics, we'll get down to first principles and the actual philosophical

00:27:54.720 debate that we're having.

00:27:56.700 And what Andrew Yang wants to do is kick one of those points of view off of Facebook.

00:28:01.660 And I suspect it's not going to be his point of view that he's kicking off.

00:28:04.960 It's probably going to be something closer to my point of view.

00:28:08.040 Listen to the way he talks about it, how cavalier he is.

00:28:10.620 How would you deal with this, Mr. Yang?

00:28:12.340 Look, I would sit down Mark Zuckerberg and I'd say, hey, buster, I know you operate a private

00:28:18.460 business.

00:28:18.980 I know you're trying to foster the new public square, but I need you to shut up my political

00:28:23.960 opponents.

00:28:24.460 All right, be a good guy.

00:28:25.520 Do me a favor.

00:28:26.260 Okay.

00:28:27.320 And then if he doesn't do him the favor, he's going to force him through the federal government.

00:28:32.240 That's the way liberalism ends.

00:28:34.180 During this 2020 campaign, conservatives have variously flirted with different candidates.

00:28:41.440 So some people got a real kick out of Andrew Yang.

00:28:43.180 I actually got a real kick out of Andrew Yang.

00:28:45.760 Some people got a kick out of Tulsi Gabbard because Tulsi went after Hillary Clinton.

00:28:49.580 Now she's suing Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:28:51.760 There are other reasons that people would flirt with Tulsi Gabbard.

00:28:53.980 All right, she's a very interesting candidate. 0.98

00:28:57.260 But let's not be mistaken here.

00:28:59.820 I mean, conservatives sometimes were a little gullible.

00:29:04.200 We're a little naive.

00:29:04.960 We go along with candidates.

00:29:07.180 We're dazzled by polish. 1.00

00:29:09.760 This goes all the way back to Mitt Romney.

00:29:11.540 Mitt Romney, maybe the most persistent, vindictive, petty opponent of the president in the whole

00:29:19.500 country, in many ways more than Hillary Clinton.

00:29:23.680 Mitt Romney was our Republican nominee for president eight years ago.

00:29:29.900 Now, I knew that was a bad idea.

00:29:31.260 That's why I've worked for two of his opponents.

00:29:32.580 But the GOP nominated that guy.

00:29:35.560 That's how duped we were.

00:29:38.160 We should not allow ourselves to be duped over and over again.

00:29:42.000 We've got a really nice period of conservative governance.

00:29:45.960 Not perfect.

00:29:46.840 There are certain things that I don't agree with that the Trump administration has done.

00:29:50.360 That jailbreak bill, prison reform that he keeps touting, I don't like that.

00:29:54.640 I think it's a bad idea.

00:29:55.820 I think it's bad policy.

00:29:56.940 Might be smart retail politics.

00:29:58.760 But it drives me nuts.

00:30:01.240 A few other things he's done that I just don't really like.

00:30:03.620 But on the whole, this has been the most conservative administration in modern times.

00:30:10.560 For 100 years or more.

00:30:13.260 That's a pretty good thing.

00:30:14.420 I think we should encourage those victories, especially on something as profound and conservative

00:30:20.900 and esoteric and out of left field as making buildings beautiful again.

00:30:26.520 Something as simple as that.

00:30:27.660 We need to encourage that, that kind of governance.

00:30:29.960 We need to be very wary of these political wolves in sheep's clothing, whether that be the kind

00:30:39.800 of eccentric liberal on the Andrew Yang side of things, or whether that be the former GOP

00:30:45.820 nominee for president, Mitt Romney.

00:30:47.640 We have got to get to the mailbag.

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00:31:49.440 We'll be right back with the mailbag.

00:32:03.460 Jumping right in, because I always save the mailbag for the very last, and we won't get

00:32:08.520 through enough questions, so I'm going to burn through this mailbag.

00:32:10.520 From Christopher.

00:32:11.580 Dear Michael, why do leftists think that President Trump is trying to destroy the Constitution?

00:32:16.180 All I see is the left trying to squash free speech, cancel history, take away gun rights,

00:32:22.680 and install more government control.

00:32:24.440 I'm very well aware of Trump derangement syndrome, but I just can't see why they think our president

00:32:28.600 is against the Constitution.

00:32:30.620 Thanks for all you do.

00:32:31.580 Yes, this is puzzling to a lot of people, that Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats, whose often

00:32:38.480 explicit stated purpose is to undermine our Constitution, why they're now wrapping themselves

00:32:43.320 in the Constitution as they fight President Trump, who himself is defending the Constitution.

00:32:47.340 The reason is, the left is not actually talking about the Constitution.

00:32:53.000 When the left says they want to defend the Constitution, they're just using the Constitution as a synonym

00:33:00.780 for good stuff that I like.

00:33:03.640 It's the same thing when the left talks about Christianity.

00:33:05.720 Very often, they'll make disingenuous arguments.

00:33:09.300 Atheists, secular leftists, will make these disingenuous arguments about how conservative Christians

00:33:15.980 are failing to live up to Christianity.

00:33:17.500 But the leftist atheists don't know anything about Christianity, and they don't respect Christianity,

00:33:22.000 and they don't believe it at all. 0.99

00:33:23.960 They just use it as a synonym for something good to show your own hypocrisy. 0.90

00:33:30.620 It's the same way when liberals call conservatives racists, without any evidence that they're racists 0.96

00:33:37.220 or racially bigoted.

00:33:39.280 It doesn't matter.

00:33:40.320 They don't have any evidence of it.

00:33:41.820 They're just using racist as a synonym for bad.

00:33:45.660 I'll never forget, there was this left-wing commentator who went on David Webb's radio show

00:33:51.340 and called him, said that he had white privilege, implied that he was a racist.

00:33:58.360 And this was a problem. 0.94

00:33:59.600 I guess the liberal caller had never Googled David Webb because David Webb is a black man. 0.53

00:34:05.320 But it didn't matter.

00:34:06.780 Obviously, she had no evidence that he was some kind of bigot.

00:34:09.220 She just used it to mean bad.

00:34:11.280 It's a very imprecise way to use language.

00:34:15.700 It's dishonest.

00:34:16.980 But that's what they mean.

00:34:17.960 There's a kind of silver lining here, which is that at least sometimes the left is using terms like the Constitution as a good thing.

00:34:27.740 Like, I'd rather them say the Constitution is a good thing, even if they don't believe it, than openly come out and say that they hate the Constitution.

00:34:34.760 Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue.

00:34:38.040 However, it is dishonest.

00:34:39.560 They're not talking about the Constitution.

00:34:40.960 They're not talking about Christianity.

00:34:42.040 They're not talking about the things they're talking about.

00:34:44.580 It's a vague good versus bad.

00:34:47.180 And really what it all comes down to is the self.

00:34:50.420 They rewrite the Constitution to mean whatever I want.

00:34:52.980 They rewrite Christianity to mean whatever I want. 0.96

00:34:55.980 It's a religion of the self, and it all comes down to pride.

00:34:59.660 From Elliot.

00:35:00.360 Hi, Michael.

00:35:00.800 I'm a big fan.

00:35:02.280 Thank you.

00:35:03.080 My question is about reading.

00:35:05.100 Is there a difference in benefit between reading a physical book, using a Kindle, reading on a computer, or using a book-on-tape audiobook?

00:35:11.420 Some recommend audiobooks because you can play it at one-and-a-half speed and absorb the most information.

00:35:16.720 I have a hunch that a physical book is best since that's been tried and true for thousands of years.

00:35:20.680 Any thoughts?

00:35:21.160 Yes, I have many thoughts on this because I read a ton of physical books and audiobooks and e-books.

00:35:26.620 It totally depends on the book.

00:35:29.960 I have found biographies are great on audiobook.

00:35:33.080 They're also good if you physically read it, but you can follow them on audiobook.

00:35:38.460 Novels are not always great on audiobook.

00:35:40.980 Some are.

00:35:41.740 Some aren't.

00:35:43.520 Some poetry, you've got to read them in the physical book.

00:35:46.020 You've got to see how it's laid out on the page.

00:35:47.420 But other poetry, I think of the foundational poems of our civilization, the Iliad and the Odyssey, ancient Greek poems.

00:35:54.960 I much prefer them on audiobook because actually that's how they were meant to be consumed.

00:35:59.360 They were meant to be performed and heard.

00:36:01.340 The plays of Shakespeare, you can read them.

00:36:03.540 Maybe that's helpful, but really they're meant to be seen in the theater.

00:36:06.640 It totally depends on the particular work that you're talking about.

00:36:12.020 And so I wouldn't have a hard and fast rule for all texts.

00:36:15.940 That's usually an unsuccessful way to approach art.

00:36:18.720 I would do it text by text and try the way that makes the most sense for that particular work.

00:36:26.060 From Nick.

00:36:26.960 Dear renowned and austere religious podcaster,

00:36:30.000 who is the most overrated American political figure?

00:36:32.660 Bonus question, who was the worst American president?

00:36:35.120 Barack Obama.

00:36:36.380 There is a little bit of a recent history bias.

00:36:38.980 We always think that the guy who came before is the worst and that's just because we've recently experienced it.

00:36:45.420 And then with time, they tend to look a little bit better.

00:36:48.920 All of that is true except for Barack Obama.

00:36:51.000 He actually is the worst president, I think, in American history.

00:36:54.540 And I think that history will not be very kind to him. 0.90

00:36:57.820 He's also the most overrated.

00:36:59.200 The only skill that he had going into the 2008 presidential election was that people said he gave good speeches.

00:37:10.260 He didn't have any other accomplishment.

00:37:12.260 He wasn't a great business leader, wasn't a great academic, wasn't some great lawyer.

00:37:17.420 His only credential was that he was a community organizer, whatever that means.

00:37:20.880 He's just a kind of political activist.

00:37:22.960 And he was in the Illinois State Senate and he barely showed up to vote there.

00:37:25.900 And then he was in the U.S. Senate for two and a half seconds and he ran for president.

00:37:29.380 And so the only reason that people really gave for him being this great political figure is that he gave good speeches.

00:37:35.680 But he didn't really give very good speeches.

00:37:37.700 The speech that made him famous was a speech at the Democratic National Convention where he said,

00:37:42.980 there is no such thing as a red America and a blue America, black America and a white America.

00:37:47.760 There's the United States of America, which is perfectly true. 0.58

00:37:50.820 I agree with the statement, but that's not exactly soaring rhetoric.

00:37:55.500 It's not exactly Abraham Lincoln.

00:37:56.920 It's not exactly Pericles, is it?

00:37:58.560 No, it's just common sense that he said.

00:38:01.900 And frankly, that was one of the best speeches he gave.

00:38:04.760 He gave another good speech when he lost.

00:38:06.900 I think it was when he lost New Hampshire.

00:38:08.880 That was a pretty good speech.

00:38:10.060 I mean, that goes in the top Obama speeches.

00:38:12.300 The rest of them were not very impressive.

00:38:14.380 They were meandering.

00:38:15.340 They apologized for the country.

00:38:17.220 He stuttered.

00:38:18.140 They were kind of boring.

00:38:19.000 It's an irony he's considered this great orator, and the reality hasn't really backed that up.

00:38:25.900 So even on the one skill he allegedly had going in to the presidency, it just doesn't hold up.

00:38:31.640 Very overrated and a very bad president.

00:38:34.240 From Ryan.

00:38:35.180 Hi, Michael.

00:38:36.440 We ended 2019 with a debate over internet porn that split the right around the question of the level of government involvement in the culture.

00:38:43.700 You came out strongly against the libertarian-minded right-wingers and supported the idea of a government that engages the culture to promote the good.

00:38:52.420 My question is the ultimate and most important question within the debate.

00:38:57.260 Can the market alone provide us with enough libs to own, or does the government have a duty and responsibility to provide us with them as well?

00:39:07.160 Thank you.

00:39:07.560 Wow, that is a profound question that I did not see it going in that direction.

00:39:13.320 Does the government have a role in providing us libs to own, or will the market naturally provide enough libs to own?

00:39:24.100 The market will provide libs to own.

00:39:27.460 This is an area where markets are really, really efficient.

00:39:31.100 The government cannot get involved in owning the libs because of the 13th Amendment.

00:39:35.640 We're not allowed to own people, obviously, according to the government.

00:39:41.380 But the libs are a sort of special case because they offer themselves to be owned so often.

00:39:48.340 And there is no shortage of supply here.

00:39:52.620 You saw this most especially this week from the House Democrats at the State of the Union where Nancy Pelosi was just sitting up there muttering to herself because the president had driven her so crazy.

00:40:02.440 And you saw this in the impeachment trial where all the Democrat libs and that one Republican libs, Mitt Romney, just got totally, totally owned.

00:40:11.500 I mean, there were so many that even one of the Republicans became a lib and got owned.

00:40:15.640 The market is doing very well here.

00:40:17.440 We need to reduce regulation and allow the invisible hand to allow us to keep drinking from that leftist here's Tumblr. 1.00

00:40:23.800 From John, I know you have an appreciation for several modern movies.

00:40:28.980 My question is, are there any modern music artists that you particularly enjoy?

00:40:32.980 Any pop music artists or songs that you like?

00:40:35.620 Thanks.

00:40:36.440 Yes.

00:40:37.780 Very obscure.

00:40:39.940 In many ways, you might not expect this from me because I'm just, you know, I listen mostly to classical music and old music.

00:40:45.760 I love Stomp Cat.

00:40:48.020 I love Marion Hill.

00:40:49.940 I love Sam Schwie.

00:40:52.120 Those are pretty modern artists that I like.

00:40:54.780 But that's it.

00:40:55.360 Other than that, all classical.

00:40:56.940 From Jacob.

00:40:57.840 Greetings, Michael.

00:40:59.140 Do you think the division between the left and the right has any chance of being mitigated?

00:41:04.240 I see a real contempt from both sides for their opponents.

00:41:06.860 I'm not sure the problem will do anything but worsen.

00:41:09.680 I'd love to hear your view on this issue.

00:41:11.520 I do see a lot of rancor and polarization, but I don't think it's equal on both sides.

00:41:17.020 I think that the left, broadly, seems to despise the right.

00:41:22.560 Hillary Clinton admitted this in 2016.

00:41:24.500 She called the right deplorable and irredeemable.

00:41:28.140 And they have doubled down on that.

00:41:30.120 And they call us racists and awful and terrible.

00:41:32.880 And, I mean, you remember there was some kid from Covington High School showed up on the National Mall wearing a Make America Great Again hat, 0.97

00:41:38.240 minding his own business, starts getting verbal abuse from adults, a black supremacist, 0.52

00:41:44.040 and some Native American activist banging a drum in his face. 0.87

00:41:46.820 And the mainstream media pilloried the kid, said that he had the most punchable face he ever saw.

00:41:53.520 So I think the left really doesn't like the right very much.

00:41:56.480 And I think the right is bewildered by this.

00:41:59.520 I don't think they have a genuine disdain or contempt for our left-wing friends.

00:42:03.080 We can't unilaterally disarm.

00:42:04.400 We've got to keep fighting that cultural fight.

00:42:08.020 And maybe we'd all like to get along.

00:42:10.040 But in war and in politics, your opponent, your adversary, gets a say in that.

00:42:16.960 Now, I do think there will be some pushback.

00:42:19.620 There will be a swing back in the other direction.

00:42:22.080 A lot of that will come down to the 2020 election.

00:42:24.280 If the left is rewarded for its radical, contemptuous behavior, then we'll get more of it.

00:42:30.040 If the left is totally smacked down, very likely they'll change course.

00:42:33.600 Final question from Jeffrey.

00:42:34.920 Dear Michael, my family is likely plagued by demons or cursed.

00:42:39.320 Wow, this is a pretty heavy one to end on.

00:42:41.900 Okay, he goes on.

00:42:43.460 I weep to say so, but I am related to people who have done some frankly terrifying things to other family members.

00:42:50.000 I am not one of those people.

00:42:52.620 But sometimes I have urges to commit violence upon both my family and those around me.

00:42:57.280 I've had these thoughts since I was a child.

00:42:59.580 I've never told anyone of these thoughts because I'm worried of how others would think of me.

00:43:03.800 I am a deeply faithful Christian, but I sometimes doubt that I'm truly saved of these thoughts that plagued me.

00:43:10.600 Am I truly saved of such dark thoughts invade my mind at times, even if I never will act on them?

00:43:15.360 If not, what should I do to redeem myself?

00:43:17.360 All right, you should immediately go see two people.

00:43:23.560 You should go see a psychologist and a Catholic priest. 0.96

00:43:27.800 Why?

00:43:29.440 Because I think a lot of people, if you talk to secular people with this problem,

00:43:33.120 they will dismiss out of hand that there's any such thing as demonic obsession or spiritual malignance or malevolence.

00:43:41.380 They'll say, oh no, that's all just made up fantasy stuff.

00:43:44.420 You've just got some psychological problems, so only deal with it that way.

00:43:48.380 Now, if you deal with some people who are religiously eccentric or zealous, they might say, oh, psychology is a bunch of bunk.

00:43:56.600 This is all spiritual, so go just deal with the spiritual part.

00:44:00.560 The reality is that the human person is both spirit, soul, and body.

00:44:06.960 And I don't know which it is in your case, and you don't know which it is, and that's why you need professional help.

00:44:12.100 So I would go and first try to make sure that this is not just a psychological problem that you can work out through therapy or through some other intervention.

00:44:22.900 Then you should speak to a Catholic priest.

00:44:25.640 I say Catholic priest because the Catholics have a long track record here.

00:44:30.320 So even if you were not Catholic yourself, they've got a long track record thinking about these kind of spiritual questions.

00:44:36.460 And I think that would be helpful to you, and you'd probably get the most information that way.

00:44:41.520 Because there is more between heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophy.

00:44:47.440 And also modern medical science has advanced to a point that you hopefully will be able to diagnose these things.

00:44:55.220 You're not going to diagnose them, though, by keeping them to yourself or even just talking to me.

00:44:59.480 You'll have to talk to people who are expert in that question.

00:45:02.300 So I wish you the best of luck and have courage, both physical courage and spiritual courage.

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The Michael Knowles Show - February 06, 2020

Ep. 491 - Mitt Romney Has Always Been Awful

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