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00:00:37.980 Nearly 700,000 people filed for unemployment last week. More unemployment claims than we saw at the

00:00:44.980 peak of the 2009 recession. We will examine the promising signs for a cure to coronavirus,

00:00:51.880 and perhaps more importantly, the promising signs that President Trump is ready to free us

00:00:56.180 from the dictatorship of public health experts. Then, mainstream media journalists humiliate

00:01:02.260 themselves because today is a day ending in Y, and the New York City government publishes a helpful

00:01:07.720 guide on how to have sanitary group sodomy during the pandemic. All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles,

00:01:13.000 and this is The Michael Knowles Show. All right, we've got a lot of updates here for the coronavirus,

00:01:26.820 and I can't wait to show you the New York City pandemic sex guide, which is a real thing,

00:01:35.580 which we will really get to. This is what the dictatorship of expertise gets us. First,

00:01:41.300 what are the updates? Tax filing deadline has been moved. This is a very good sign. It's going

00:01:46.080 to be moved to July 15th. So if you haven't done your taxes yet, you know, good. You get a little

00:01:51.440 bit more time. Some other big moves that President Trump announced on Friday. The U.S. border with

00:01:56.840 Mexico will be closed to non-essential travel. President Trump has been trying to get this for

00:02:01.920 three and a half years, and it took a global pandemic for it to work. But that is done.

00:02:07.060 The U.S. border with Canada will be closed to non-essential travel, perhaps more important

00:02:11.600 than closing the border with Mexico, since there are all those Canadian socialists up there.

00:02:16.200 Another important update, President Trump has invoked the Defense Production Act. This is a Korean

00:02:21.680 War era law. It began in 1950, and this is a way to turn American industry to government ends. So for

00:02:31.340 instance, if you need to start producing a lot more ventilators, the government can work with

00:02:34.840 private industry to do that, it sounds a lot more monumental than it is. I mean, it sounds like

00:02:41.300 we're basically gearing up for World War II again. I guess in a certain way we are. But actually,

00:02:45.520 the Defense Production Act has been invoked many times. It was invoked by Barack Obama during his

00:02:50.060 administration. It's been invoked something like 20 times since 1950. So not earth-shattering stuff,

00:02:55.480 but, you know, everyone's so on edge during the pandemic that anytime they hear something like

00:02:59.540 that, they think that we're going to all-out war or something. Student loan payments have been

00:03:04.420 suspended for 60 days. So if you've got your student loans that you owe on, you're certainly

00:03:10.440 not in school right now. So it seems perfectly fitting that you don't have to make payments

00:03:14.740 on those student loans. And no one's got any money coming in anyway. So if you've already graduated,

00:03:20.040 good that you don't have to make payments on those either. And the Indiana primary election has

00:03:24.480 been pushed back to June. This is part of a trend that we saw starting in Ohio when Governor Mike

00:03:29.300 DeWine decided he was going to cancel the primary for coronavirus. A judge told him he couldn't do

00:03:34.620 that. He said, who cares about the judge? And just close the polling stations. So it's not just Ohio

00:03:40.400 anymore. It's happening in Indiana. This is going to seriously affect the 2020 race. It's going to

00:03:46.660 affect all the way up until the Democratic Convention. And then it's probably going to have effects on the

00:03:51.700 general election. So if you thought that the whining about it being an unfair election in 2016 was bad,

00:03:57.640 just wait until we get to November of 2020. And then the big update on the numbers.

00:04:04.480 We now have 451 deaths from coronavirus in the United States. Now, this all began in late January. So,

00:04:15.240 you know, obviously 451 deaths, very sad for each of the 451 people and their families, for all of us.

00:04:21.700 But it's not 100,000 people. It's maybe not as bad as some people were expecting. That, however,

00:04:29.880 has not stopped the public health experts from telling us, really, we're still on the brink of

00:04:34.420 civilizational collapse. That's why we all need to stay locked up in our homes and not go anywhere.

00:04:38.900 This from Dr. Marty McCary, a public health expert from Johns Hopkins University, who is insistent that

00:04:47.380 we keep up the hysteria, because if not, hundreds of thousands of people are going to die.

00:04:53.220 Some of America still is in denial that we even have a problem. You know, we live in a very opinionated

00:04:59.420 country, but this is not fantasy football here. These are facts and this is data. And what's happening in Italy

00:05:05.520 will happen in the United States. They had 793 deaths in the last 24 hours. I saw your interview with Dr.

00:05:13.380 Friedman just now. I don't think he answered your question about how many cases we're going to have

00:05:18.360 here. We're going to have hundreds of thousands of deaths and we're going to have millions of people

00:05:22.780 with the infection. That's based on the data of Italy extrapolated to our population.

00:05:28.500 What they're experiencing now is over 4,000 Americans dying per day when we get to their point

00:05:35.140 in the infection. Okay. This guy is seriously misrepresenting the facts. What he's doing

00:05:41.220 has become typical of the mainstream media and the so-called experts. You know, we are right now

00:05:50.260 basing our national politics on the apparently sacrosanct advice of public health experts rather

00:05:57.620 than dealing with politics as they are, which is where we discuss issues that are often eternal

00:06:02.560 questions and try to persuade our fellow citizens. We've put all of that aside, that entire American

00:06:06.920 political tradition aside for the moment. And now we're just doing whatever these public health

00:06:10.820 experts tell us. But are they telling us the truth? I mean, the first thing, if you're watching

00:06:16.800 that clip of McCary, the first thing that's so strange is looking at on screen, you've got the host,

00:06:24.520 then you've got Karl Rove as the Republican voice, then you've got Donna Brazile, the former head of the

00:06:29.640 Democratic National Committee as the left-wing voice, and then you've got the public health expert

00:06:33.540 as another left-wing voice. But he's supposedly objective and merely scientific. If you look at

00:06:40.300 Donna Brazile, the whole time he's talking about how, you know, 100,000 people are going to die,

00:06:45.720 it's going to be mass chaos, there's going to be mass death. Everyone on screen is very serious about it,

00:06:50.140 except for Donna Brazile, who is like smiling and nodding. And it looks really weird. It's the weirdest,

00:06:56.280 creepiest reaction imaginable. And if you, look, maybe she's just a strange person. But if you want

00:07:05.940 to try to look into that and find out the political implications of it, it would seem that the political

00:07:10.520 implications are that the left, I'm not saying the left are cheering on deaths, I'm saying the left is

00:07:15.640 cheering on the alarmism, because the alarmism allows them to get more of their public policy

00:07:20.940 priorities through. You saw the other day, Rob Reiner, Meathead from All in the Family, famously

00:07:26.500 far leftist guy, said, enough of this state-by-state lockdown. We need a national lockdown

00:07:32.760 now. Which is kind of funny, because Meathead says that he hates Donald Trump, and yet he wants to give

00:07:38.080 Donald Trump so much more power. Because really, what the left wants to do, the thing the left loves about

00:07:42.340 the coronavirus epidemic is obviously not the sickness. What it loves, though, is the power that is going

00:07:48.320 to the government right now, and the total stopping of politics. There is no politics during the

00:07:57.300 epidemic. It's just a tyrannical group of public health experts tell us what to do. Maybe for our

00:08:04.320 own good, doesn't change the fact that they are determining how our government is running. That's

00:08:10.720 the first part that's pretty weird about this. The second part that's weird is that he's completely

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00:09:32.920 Okay. So this guy, Marty McCary, who was actually on Fox, so he wasn't even on an outright left-wing

00:09:40.880 news channel, still though, passing along this sort of alarmism that hundreds and hundreds of

00:09:45.740 thousands of people are going to die ASAP if we don't do something. Maybe. I don't know. I'm not,

00:09:51.860 I'm not a public health expert, but I do have reason to believe that he's misrepresenting the

00:09:55.100 facts. So according to McCary, Italy is the exact preview of what's going to happen in the United

00:10:01.660 States. And the reason we're believing McCary is because he's an expert from Johns Hopkins.

00:10:06.620 What's strange though is according to data from Johns Hopkins, the death rate in Italy isn't

00:10:11.960 anything like the death rate in the United States. Right now, the death rate in Italy is 7.94%

00:10:16.780 from coronavirus, but the death rate in the United States is only 1.68%.

00:10:22.880 Now they might say, well, that number is going to rise and rise and rise as the United States

00:10:28.560 gets closer to the stage where Italy is. They'll say that Italy is 11 days ahead in terms of the

00:10:34.820 pandemic than we are because Italy got it so much sooner. But that doesn't seem to be true. If you,

00:10:41.000 if you even track Italy in the United States day by day, we did it last week. I think it was last

00:10:45.840 Wednesday or Thursday. If you looked at where the United States was in terms of death count compared to

00:10:50.680 or where the United States is compared to where Italy was 11 days prior, Italy had 200 deaths.

00:10:56.840 The United States had 100 deaths, even though the United States is five and a half times larger than

00:11:02.000 Italy. So even if they were the equal populations, we still had many fewer deaths. And then you look

00:11:07.040 at how much larger our population size is and you see that that rate is significantly lower. So why are

00:11:13.280 the Italian numbers so high? What is it about Italy? Well, there's some good reason to believe that

00:11:19.680 Italy is simply a different country than the United States. I mean, not, not just in terms of the

00:11:25.740 literal question, they are literally different countries, but in terms of the national makeup.

00:11:29.760 So the journal of the American Medical Association, JAMA, shows that 40% of infections and 87% of deaths

00:11:39.020 in Italy have been in patients over 70 years old. Yeah, this tracks with what we've been hearing the

00:11:45.940 whole time. I mean, even if you just look sort of superficially, you realize Italy has the oldest

00:11:50.940 population in Europe, the second oldest population in the world. They all greet each other by kissing

00:11:55.400 and they're all smokers, right? And they don't have a particularly functioning government.

00:12:01.520 And so it's just a little bit different than the United States. I mean, there was one story,

00:12:05.440 I kid you not, it came out out of Florence that the mayor of Florence, various politicians there

00:12:10.400 in the early days of the coronavirus endorsed a hug a Chinese person campaign, hug a Chinese person

00:12:19.040 so that it could be shown that Italians are not racist. We are now told that we're not even allowed

00:12:27.240 to hug our spouses. We're not even allowed to hug our family members for the risk of the virus

00:12:33.020 spreading. But Italy early on was willing to risk that entirely to show how not racist they are.

00:12:39.400 Probably not the wisest public policy move. According to JAMA, the majority of people in

00:12:45.520 this group are seriously being affected by the coronavirus in Italy are likely to need critical

00:12:50.680 hospital care, including 80% of 80 somethings, which is putting a ton of stress on the Italian

00:12:56.320 healthcare system. But there is an expert there, another expert who's on the other side of the

00:13:00.160 question, Professor Ricciardi, who says that actually the reason isn't just from the age groups

00:13:05.680 and the way the hospitals are run. Actually, it's a reporting issue. So he says, quote,

00:13:12.080 the way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who

00:13:17.520 die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus. That means if you go in

00:13:25.000 and you're, you've got coronavirus, right? So you're 84 years old, you've got coronavirus, you're admitted

00:13:30.940 to the hospital. Also, you've got stage four pancreatic cancer. Also, you've got pneumonia. Also, you had a

00:13:37.580 stroke last week. If you are admitted to the hospital with coronavirus and you die there, then it will be

00:13:45.380 recorded in Italy as you have died from coronavirus. But that's very confusing because there's a good chance that

00:13:53.120 person would have died a week later anyway, whether they had coronavirus or not. So how do you track it?

00:13:57.760 We have this tracking problem in America too, although I think I actually have the solution

00:14:01.560 and it's going to put a lot of left-wingers in a bad position when they try to extrapolate the last

00:14:08.260 two weeks and make it into a national power grab policy. We'll get to that in a second. First, I've got to

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00:15:20.280 in Italy. There was one analysis of this showed that you might be able, if you got rid of the

00:15:27.720 recording issue and you just looked at people who died directly, immediately of the coronavirus,

00:15:32.440 primarily of the coronavirus, you could bring down their death numbers by something like an order

00:15:37.280 of magnitude. But it depends on how you look at it. So we have this in the United States too. A big

00:15:42.960 scare example came out last week here in my own city of Los Angeles. We'd been hearing 80-year-olds

00:15:50.140 die of coronavirus, 75-year-olds maybe, but people who are young do not until last week we heard of

00:15:56.420 a 34-year-old guy in LA who died from the coronavirus. I think he had just gone to Disneyland.

00:16:02.740 So he was in a very crowded place, made it even scarier. That is a scary headline, especially

00:16:08.580 if you are someone about my age. What they buried in the article though is that this guy had

00:16:14.980 underlying health conditions and some pretty serious ones. He had a lifelong history of asthma,

00:16:22.160 of frequent bronchitis, and then as recently as three, four years ago, he had testicular cancer.

00:16:28.300 So he was treated for cancer. This is no easy treatment. And then he got coronavirus.

00:16:34.960 Those details are relevant here because something tells me that the health of somebody who doesn't

00:16:40.940 have those chronic conditions, who hasn't recently been treated for cancer, is quite different than

00:16:45.720 somebody who has. So how do you figure out who is right? There are two groups of people right now,

00:16:50.680 as I see it. They're the people who say that shutting down the world economy, pausing everybody,

00:16:56.780 locking everyone in their apartments, is perfectly reasonable and there should be no end in sight.

00:17:03.100 And really, if anything, we underreacted. So the Democratic governor of New York summed up this

00:17:09.400 view, Andy Cuomo. Andy Cuomo has now, all the left-wing governors are trying to one-up each other.

00:17:15.460 So, you know, Governor Newsom in California does something. Andy Cuomo wants to do more than that.

00:17:21.160 Or the local mayors, Eric Garcetti in LA does something because the leftist mayor of San

00:17:27.420 Francisco does something. So then the governor wants to do it right. They're all one-upping each

00:17:31.660 other. Andy Cuomo said of his policy to more or less lock down the state, he said,

00:17:38.000 if everything we do saves just one life, I'll be happy. Now, how are you going to argue with that

00:17:47.080 sentiment? You don't care about human life? That's the conclusion. If you don't want to do

00:17:53.340 everything that Andy Cuomo has done, then you don't care about human life.

00:17:57.740 Now, of course, this policy is absurd. None of us actually believe it's true.

00:18:03.320 90 people, 100, actually, I think the number is closer to 100 or 102 people die

00:18:07.260 on average in car accidents every single day. So we should ban cars, right? Because there,

00:18:12.800 we wouldn't just be saving one life. We'd be saving 102 lives a day, 102 people who would go

00:18:18.900 home to their families every day if we got rid of automobiles. So do you not support getting rid

00:18:24.500 of automobiles? What? You don't care about human life? You're not as wonderful and moral a person

00:18:28.500 as Andy Cuomo? No, of course not. That's not, that's not the takeaway from that. I mean, even just

00:18:35.140 consider what Andy Cuomo is saying. He's saying, if we stop the global economy and that saves one life

00:18:40.380 from the coronavirus, it was worth it. How many lives are going to be ended because we stopped

00:18:43.820 the global economy? I mean, just forget about how the supply chain is going to affect people.

00:18:50.040 Forget about how all of the confusion is going to affect people's lives. Just consider everyone

00:18:56.140 losing their jobs. Record number of people have applied for unemployment. We'll get to that in a

00:19:02.280 second. When people lose their jobs, suicide ticks up. I personally know of two people who have killed

00:19:11.800 themselves because of, or two people who have tried to kill themselves. One person who succeeded

00:19:17.960 because of this shutdown, coinciding with this shutdown. These weren't, you don't need to send

00:19:24.980 sympathy or anything. And these were not like close friends of mine, but these are stories that I've heard

00:19:28.920 of from friends of mine. So I'm only one, one degree removed from them. How many more stories

00:19:35.000 are there like that? Okay. If, if just me, just I have heard of two people doing this, one of whom

00:19:43.940 succeeded at it, what's going on around the country? Already, you know, let's say one person lives from

00:19:51.040 coronavirus, but then one person kills himself because he lost his job. If we're taking a purely

00:19:55.840 utilitarian calculus here, probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, right? That's what Andy,

00:20:01.460 that's Andy Cuomo's calculus here. That's one group of people. And I think what they're saying is

00:20:07.440 indefensible, but it's emotionally very compelling. The other group of people think maybe it wasn't

00:20:15.980 the greatest idea to shut down the global economy. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, we just don't know.

00:20:20.340 That's the group of the skeptics. So there's the people who say, grind everything to a hole,

00:20:25.780 please install Dr. Fauci as our world ruler who will tell us everything to do, a wise and noble

00:20:33.540 emperor. And there's the other group that says, hmm, maybe we need to balance different things.

00:20:38.780 Maybe we shouldn't just focus with 100% myopia on the coronavirus. This is what is meant by the

00:20:46.720 dictatorship of public health experts. There's a leftist idea that the people we should put in charge

00:20:53.540 are the experts. And this has been the leftist idea for hundreds of years now.

00:20:59.260 If you're the public health expert, then you've got to run all of public health policy. If you're

00:21:04.100 the environmentalist expert, you've got to run all environmental policy. Now, the trouble is

00:21:09.520 all these different areas of policy affect one another. If you're the economic expert,

00:21:15.920 you've got to run all of economic policy. They all affect one another.

00:21:18.640 And so there's a conservative idea, which is that, of course, we should listen to the opinion of

00:21:24.060 experts. Of course, we should look at the data, look at science. But the experts are actually the

00:21:30.940 last people we should put in charge because the experts, by definition, their whole career has been

00:21:37.680 putting on blinders. So all they can see is their one field of expertise. But actually, in governance,

00:21:44.160 in politics, you need to take off the blinders. You need to have generalists in charge so that they

00:21:51.380 can not miss the forest for the trees. That group of people who are, say, maybe the skeptics or who

00:21:58.900 are trying to balance other priorities here as well, I certainly count myself in that group. I suspect

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00:23:42.200 You can't do it by simply counting deaths from coronavirus. You can't do it by the counterfactual

00:23:47.780 either. You can't say, well, had we not done these measures, then the numbers would have been the

00:23:53.560 same, right? Because all we know is the effect of what we actually did, right? What you'll hear from

00:24:00.180 the power grab people at the end of all of this, even if we lock down the whole country and we get

00:24:05.480 to the end of it, we crash the global economy and let's say only 50,000 people die, you know,

00:24:10.140 something comparable to a flu epidemic. What they will say is we had to do what we did because if not

00:24:16.700 10 gazillion people would have died and you would have no way of proving that wrong.

00:24:20.600 except this one. The way to count the effectiveness of these policies is to first factor in all the

00:24:30.740 people who would have died anyway, even without coronavirus. This would fix the recording problem

00:24:37.800 in Italy. So every single day, about 7,500 people die in the United States of heart disease, car

00:24:45.800 accidents, all sorts of ailments. People die. I know that we forget this in our materialistic

00:24:52.100 culture, but people do die. So 7,500 people die per day. What we now need to do, and that takes in

00:25:00.980 seasonal flu, that takes in all other sorts of epidemics. What we need to do to figure out the

00:25:06.120 true death toll from coronavirus, both in the United States, in Italy, elsewhere, is simply figure out

00:25:12.440 how many more people died per day. Now, by the way, you can't take it just day by day because

00:25:18.120 that's an average. So you have to look at exactly how many people died different seasons of the year.

00:25:22.220 When this is all over, when we're calculating the death toll, we need to take that number into

00:25:26.300 account. It also will allow us to compare it across countries. Is our response like Italy? You know,

00:25:32.660 that expert who went on TV, McCary, at the top of the show, he seems to think that we're exactly like

00:25:38.520 Italy. Some people want to point out that actually our response has been quite different from Italy.

00:25:42.560 We don't have hugging campaigns. We have social distancing campaigns here, for one example.

00:25:49.240 We closed down the border much earlier. If the number is massive of extra deaths from coronavirus

00:25:57.320 here and elsewhere in the world, we will know that we did the right thing. If the number is not massive,

00:26:03.860 if the number is more comparable to, say, a flu epidemic, we will know that we perhaps overreacted.

00:26:12.900 We will be able to hold to account people who stoked the hysteria. Now, luckily, President Trump

00:26:18.520 gets it. The left doesn't get it. The left is going bonkers and they're posting a lot of weird videos

00:26:23.780 and weird sex guides around the internet, which we will get to. But President Trump is showing evidence

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00:27:48.140 President Trump gets it. He gets this fear. He gets why we need to crack the dictatorship of experts.

00:27:53.860 He's taking it seriously, which is good. We want him to do that. He's also cracking jokes about

00:27:59.180 tyrannical government. He was doing a press conference. I believe this was on Friday.

00:28:03.040 And he's standing, Dr. Fauci and Mike Pence and Mike Pompeo are behind him. And he cracks a joke

00:28:09.140 about how he's got to get Secretary of State Mike Pompeo back to the State Department, or as some

00:28:14.100 people call it, the Deep State Department. You know what I'd like to do? I'd like him to go back to

00:28:18.720 the State Department, or as they call it, the Deep State Department. You don't mind? I'd like to have

00:28:24.220 him go back and do his job. So does anybody have any questions? Please do.

00:28:28.960 So the greatest part of this exchange is, first of all, Trump is not allowing this pandemic to cower

00:28:37.020 him. He's not allowing it to force him into retreat and to defer simply to the dictatorship

00:28:44.440 of experts. But when you look at the chief expert in the country, Dr. Fauci, who's been doing a very

00:28:48.500 good job, the minute that Trump says the Deep State Department, you see the smirk just tick up

00:28:55.440 on Fauci's face. And you can see he's just trying to suppress a laugh. So his mouth is all sort of

00:29:01.360 contorting. Then he just puts his head down. You know, he's like scratching his forehead so that he

00:29:05.240 can hide his smile. He's obviously getting a kick out of it. Really gives me even more confidence

00:29:10.900 that the guy knows what he's doing, that he can crack a laugh about the bureaucracy in our federal

00:29:16.540 government. The next aspect of Trump's response that is really giving me confidence is a tweet he

00:29:24.320 sent out last night. All caps, that's how you know that a Trump tweet is really serious. He tweets out,

00:29:29.680 quote, we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself. At the end of the 15 day period,

00:29:36.620 we will make a decision as to which way we want to go, exclamation point. Love this. My man,

00:29:44.100 that's exactly what you need to say right now. Because right now we're in quarantine. We've been

00:29:49.260 in quarantine for what, like seven days or so. And the thing that's making the markets tank,

00:29:56.660 the thing that's making people freak out, is we don't know when the end is going to be.

00:30:01.280 Is this going to drag on for two weeks, two months, 18 months? I don't know. We got to wait for the

00:30:07.280 experts to tell us how to live our lives, I guess. And whatever they say, that's what we're going to

00:30:10.580 do. Give up our liberties. Don't go to mass. They close churches everywhere. That's cool. That's fine.

00:30:15.480 You take all of our freedoms. Take everything that we want to do indefinitely. I don't think so.

00:30:21.240 Americans are willing to have solidarity, come together, help each other out,

00:30:24.680 even suspend some of our rights for a limited period of time. We need to know when that comes

00:30:31.820 to an end. And this 15 day period was what they talked about at the beginning. 15 days to stop

00:30:36.260 the virus or to slow down the spread of the virus. Cool. I'll be a sport for 15 days. Won't be a sport

00:30:43.720 for 15 months. Won't be a sport for 15 years. Need an end date. And so that end date now, it looks like

00:30:48.880 it'll be about March 30th. I really hope that President Trump sticks to this. And barring some

00:30:57.260 seriously evidenced catastrophe on the horizon, if we don't extend it, I want him to end it at 15 days.

00:31:03.620 There were almost 694,000 new unemployment claims between last Monday and last Wednesday.

00:31:10.420 That blows the 2009 recession out of the water. It actually blew past the 2009 recession.

00:31:20.480 How much longer are we going to let that go on? Are we going to let the unemployment rate get up

00:31:24.160 to 30%? Maybe, maybe it's already going to go there. Are we going to let it stay there for months

00:31:29.880 and months, crash the economy? Probably not a great idea. There are unintended effects of that,

00:31:35.540 that our public health experts simply cannot factor in. The media are furious at Trump for

00:31:41.220 trying to remind people that this is going to end quickly, for trying to find a quick solution to

00:31:47.200 this. They're furious at Trump because he attacked a reporter over this exact question. He called an

00:31:54.280 NBC journalist, a terrible reporter for asking Trump what he would say to Americans who are scared.

00:32:01.760 That's the narrative. The narrative the mainstream media is putting out for you right now is

00:32:04.560 that a reporter asked a perfectly legitimate question. Mr. President, what do you say to

00:32:09.920 Americans who are scared? And Trump, unhinged, crazy, up against a wall, couldn't give an answer to

00:32:16.480 this question. And it was such a horrible moment for Trump. The exchange came after President Trump

00:32:23.200 announced the possibility of a breakthrough regarding a cure to coronavirus.

00:32:27.840 A drug called chloroquine, and some people would add to it hydroxy, hydroxychloroquine.

00:32:39.840 So chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine. Now this is a common malaria drug. It's also a drug used for

00:32:50.420 strong arthritis.

00:32:52.560 Okay. This is a drug. He goes on to describe it. I love the way he did chloroquine. Some people look,

00:32:58.920 some people might say hydroxychloroquine. Okay. Well, I'm talking, I'll take any either name,

00:33:03.160 but it treats malaria, treats arthritis, and this may have an application to coronavirus. Hey,

00:33:10.080 great news. There should be applause from the press in that room, right? How exciting. That's not what

00:33:15.800 happened. Now here is the very selectively edited clip that is going around the internet now and

00:33:22.300 being pushed by the mainstream media and all the blue check marks to make Trump look like he's

00:33:27.660 throwing a temper tantrum. What do you say to Americans who are scared though? I guess nearly

00:33:31.320 200 dead, 14,000 who are sick, millions, as you witnessed, who are scared right now. What do you

00:33:37.960 say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared? I say that you're a terrible reporter.

00:33:42.940 That's what I say. I think it's a very nasty question and I think it's a very bad signal that

00:33:49.340 you're putting out to the American people. The American people are looking for answers and

00:33:53.780 they're looking for hope and you're doing sensationalism and the same with NBC and

00:33:59.360 Comcast. I don't call it, I don't call it Comcast. I call it Comcast. Let me just, for whom you work,

00:34:04.640 let me just tell you something. That's really bad reporting and you want to get back to reporting

00:34:10.380 instead of sensationalism. Let's see if it works. It might and it might not. I happen to feel good

00:34:16.540 about it, but who knows? I've been right a lot. All right. Trump, very forceful. He has been right

00:34:22.540 a lot, but the response from most people when they see that clip is they say, it was a totally fair

00:34:29.480 question. It was a totally outrageous response. Look, he was just asking, what do you say to Americans

00:34:34.680 who are scared? Trump can't answer that one, that softball, right? Wrong. Because that was

00:34:40.760 Alexander's follow-up to the first extraordinarily biased series of questions. Here's the real clip.

00:34:48.520 Dr. Fauci said there is no magic drug for coronavirus right now, which you would agree,

00:34:52.960 I guess, on this issue. Well, you know, I think we only disagree a little bit. I'm sorry.

00:34:57.000 I disagree. Maybe and maybe not. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't. We have to see. We're going to

00:35:03.120 know. Is it possible that your impulse to put a positive spin on things may be giving Americans

00:35:09.260 a false sense of hope? No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think that, I think it's got

00:35:15.660 such a lovely question. Look, it may work and it may not work. And I agree with the doctor what he

00:35:24.820 said. May work, may not work. I feel good about it. That's all it is. Just a feeling. I, you know,

00:35:30.840 I'm a smart guy. I feel good about it. And we're going to see, you're going to see soon enough.

00:35:36.320 That's the prelude to Trump going off on the reporter. Then he goes, yeah, but what do you

00:35:41.720 know? What do you say to Americans who are scared? He goes, you're a terrible reporter. You keep

00:35:44.780 interrupting me. You keep asking these condescending questions. I mean, from the very beginning,

00:35:49.040 Peter Alexander from NBC, his question is, hey, there's no magic drug. It's not mad. How

00:35:56.120 condescending the word magic. Hey, Mr. President, what do you think? Look, the way that you always

00:36:01.940 put a positive spin on things, you know, how you exaggerate and lie, you liar. Yeah. Well,

00:36:06.560 what do you think? Don't you think that's giving Americans a false sense of hope? Really? They're

00:36:09.860 all going to die, aren't they? They're all going to die. Tell them they're all going to die.

00:36:12.720 And then Trump starts to answer and Peter Alexander keeps speaking, keeps interrupting him

00:36:17.820 as he's answering. Frankly, I think Trump held his temper very well until the very end. He goes,

00:36:22.760 hey, Buster, you're a terrible reporter. You're a hack. Your outlet is a hack outlet and you're not

00:36:28.420 helping the situation here. You're not reporting the news, first of all, and you're scaring people

00:36:33.020 and you're doing sensationalism and you're trying to make the situation worse. Absolutely right.

00:36:37.740 But then it gets even better. The most outrageous part of all of this, don't forget, this was in

00:36:43.040 response to Trump saying there's this drug called chloroquine, which might help. It's showing some

00:36:47.300 promise. Media pile on him. Peter Alexander, this is false hope. Andy Cuomo, Democratic governor of

00:36:55.840 New York, gives almost the exact same press conference touting in almost the exact same

00:37:02.560 terms, the exact same drug. Here he is. We're also implementing the trial drug. We have secured

00:37:12.120 70,000 hydrochloroquine, 10,000 zithromax from the federal government. I want to thank the FDA

00:37:20.820 for moving very expeditiously to get us this supply. Okay. Same. That's basically the same

00:37:28.460 exact news conference that Trump gave. Tone is always a little bit different, but the substance of it,

00:37:34.600 identical. When Trump does it, it's a false sense of hope. What happens when Andy Cuomo does it?

00:37:40.360 Brian Stelter, CNN, take it away. It's been a remarkable show of leadership by Governor Cuomo

00:37:45.220 in recent days. He's providing hope, but not false hope. Not false hope. That's what Trump

00:37:50.760 peddles. When Trump is using the exact same words Andy Cuomo is using, that's false hope. When Andy

00:37:56.680 Cuomo does it, that's real hope, not false hope. This is CNN. Facts first. Mainstream media.

00:38:01.360 And then, because look, maybe you say, okay, look, they're both left-wing outlets, NBC and CNN.

00:38:07.740 Maybe they just had a different take on this. No. John King on CNN goes on CNN and explains in coarse,

00:38:21.220 vulgar language, why President Trump's reaction to Peter Alexander was totally outrageous. It was BS.

00:38:29.000 I sat in that room for just shy of 10 years. It was a perfectly valid question. And what the

00:38:33.540 president did to Peter Alexander is reprehensible. The American people are looking for answers. They

00:38:37.280 do want hope. They do want support, Mr. President. That was a very fair question. Our Caitlin Collins

00:38:41.320 is in the briefing room right now. She was there for that contentious briefing. Caitlin, this is a Trump

00:38:46.800 trademark. This is a Trump trademark. It was striking that this came, this, forgive me, bullshit attack on

00:38:52.520 fake news came just moments after the Secretary of State said the American people need to be careful

00:38:56.880 about where they get their information and go to sources they can trust. I get there are times

00:39:02.040 disagreements. There are times contention between politicians and reporters. That was a 100% legitimate

00:39:08.240 question with no hype, no shade, no bias. He just wanted to attack. No, no bias, no shade, no hype,

00:39:16.100 nothing. No, not at all. But hey, by the way, that was BS. That was outrageous. That was terrible

00:39:22.420 when Trump did it. But Andy Cuomo, wow, not giving anyone false hope. Thank good. I mean,

00:39:29.020 no, no reporter would ever, ever even dare to ask him the question that they asked Trump.

00:39:34.540 Of course not. He's peddling true hope, not false hope. What a clown. What a total clown that guy is.

00:39:41.640 First of all, do you remember when journalists didn't have to use four letter words on national

00:39:46.700 television in their news reports? Well, I guess you'd have to remember all the way back to when

00:39:51.820 there were actual journalists and reporters out there and not leftist hacks just taking any pot

00:39:58.080 shot they can at the president, even when it swings back and humiliates themselves.

00:40:04.520 The New York City government, speaking of humiliation, the New York City government has

00:40:10.440 published a guide to having sex during a pandemic. You think the vulgar language used by John King on

00:40:15.240 CNN was bad? Just wait until you hear the, the actual public health recommendations from the New

00:40:20.860 York City government. I am not exaggerating when I tell you this document, sex and coronavirus disease

00:40:27.280 2019 is the filthiest document I have read in quite some time. I will just give you the highlights.

00:40:35.680 And if you have young children, they should cover their ears for the next two minutes. All New Yorkers

00:40:41.160 should stay home and minimize contact with others to reduce the spread of COVID-19. But can

00:40:45.180 you have sex? Here are some tips for how to enjoy sex and to avoid spreading COVID-19.

00:40:51.380 Enjoy? All right. That's kind of weird. That's not usually like clinical public,

00:40:55.060 public health language, but that's fine.

00:41:00.140 We still have a lot to learn about COVID-19 and sex. Have sex with people close to you. You are your

00:41:07.260 safest sex partner. Masturbation will not spread COVID-19, especially if you wash your hands and any

00:41:13.940 sex toys with soap and water for at least 20 seconds before and after sex. You are your safest. I guess

00:41:21.240 it is sex with someone I love, but I don't, I, this doesn't seem like the kind of advice you should be

00:41:26.000 getting from your government. The next safest sex partner is someone you live with. Having close

00:41:30.280 contact, including sex with only a small circle of people helps prevent spreading COVID-19. You know,

00:41:36.880 not exactly the same sort of advice we used to hear from our, our leaders on sex used to, or maybe our

00:41:43.920 parents would say, you know, find a girl you love, get married, live happily ever after. Now they're

00:41:47.560 saying have sex with a small circle of people, not a large circle. That would be wrong and immoral,

00:41:52.600 but a small circle of people, that's, that's fine. Uh, if you usually, oh, you should avoid close

00:42:00.520 contact, including sex with anyone outside your household. Now this raises a lot of creepy questions that I don't

00:42:05.940 want to get into. If you usually meet your sex partners online or make a living by having sex,

00:42:11.700 consider taking a break from in-person dates, video dates, sexting, or chat rooms may be options for you.

00:42:19.760 Mayor Bill de Blasio telling us to sext. That's why we elected him, I guess. Now it gets really,

00:42:26.900 this is the part really cover, cover up the ears. Take care during sex. Kissing can easily pass COVID-19.

00:42:33.600 Avoid kissing anyone who is not part of your small circle of close contacts.

00:42:39.180 Rimming. Mouth on anus might spread COVID-19. Virus in feces may enter your mouth. This is

00:42:46.600 published by the New York City government on how to handle the pandemic. Condoms and dental dams can

00:42:54.720 reduce contact with saliva or feces, especially during oral or anal sex. Good. Always wanted anal

00:42:59.600 sex tips from my mayor. Washing up before and after sex is now more important than ever.

00:43:04.540 Wash hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. Interesting stapling job they did here.

00:43:11.220 That's interesting. Wash sex toys with soap and warm water. Thanks again, Mayor de Blasio. Disinfect

00:43:19.040 keyboards and touchscreens that you share with others for video chat, for watching pornography,

00:43:23.680 or for anything else. Forget about the debate we've been having on the right, which is should

00:43:29.100 city governments regulate pornography or even ban pornography? You know, we had obscenity laws in

00:43:35.180 this country. We still do, actually, all over the place, but they're rarely, if ever, enforced these

00:43:39.880 days. Now you've got your city government encouraging you to watch pornography, encouraging you on how to

00:43:50.620 watch pornography. Skip sex if your partner is not feeling well, if you or a partner may have COVID-19.

00:43:58.240 Avoid sex and especially kissing. So maybe you can have sex, but definitely don't kiss your sex partner.

00:44:06.360 And prevent HIV or other sexually transmitted infections and unplanned pregnancy. By the way,

00:44:13.800 kind of an interesting thing. We've shut down virtually every institution in this country because of the

00:44:18.160 the coronavirus. And yet abortion clinics remain open. Apparently, that's an essential service.

00:44:25.680 I'm seeing it. Shows you the priorities of the experts. Maybe shows some ulterior motives. Shows us

00:44:31.100 that maybe this is not just a public health dictatorship that we're living in. It might be something of a

00:44:37.340 political dictatorship because when questions of health become public health and use the arm of

00:44:43.520 government to enforce their dictates, all of a sudden we're talking about a political question.

00:44:48.780 And unless you want to live in a world that issues more and more guidebooks like the New York City

00:44:57.900 sex guide, unless you want to live in a world in which government bureaucrats are invading the most

00:45:04.820 personal and perverted aspects of your life, and encouraging those perversions, by the way,

00:45:09.260 then we're probably going to want to return to normal sooner rather than later. We will listen

00:45:15.520 to the public health experts as they guide us on that way. But ultimately, we will have to make

00:45:21.120 the decision ourselves. That's our show. We've got a whole lot more to get to. We'll have to do it

00:45:24.640 tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you then.

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