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00:00:37.780 The U.S. Senate passes a $2 trillion coronavirus relief package after days of fiery debate.

00:00:45.280 We will examine the good, the bad, and the ugly.

00:00:48.320 There's a lot of all three.

00:00:49.500 Then more good news on the scientific front of the pandemic, more fury from the mainstream media,

00:00:54.680 and a major Me Too allegation against, drumroll please, Sleepy Joe Biden.

00:01:00.660 We will analyze the evidence and the accuser.

00:01:03.260 Then finally, the mailbag.

00:01:04.540 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:06.380 Oh boy, if I look tired, I am.

00:01:16.520 The reason I am is because I was up all night last night with Senator Ted Cruz, who came

00:01:21.700 straight from the Capitol to our studio in Washington, D.C.

00:01:25.020 He showed up there after midnight East Coast time.

00:01:28.140 And that was the moment we even started to work on the podcast because we did an episode

00:01:34.200 of Verdict with Ted Cruz for all of the minutiae and details and goings-on of how this thing

00:01:40.900 was negotiated.

00:01:41.600 You can head over and check out that podcast.

00:01:43.440 We're going to get to what is in the bill and what it means for the scientific front,

00:01:48.840 for the political front, for the economic front, because I think, look, the thing is a huge

00:01:54.900 bill, $2 trillion, largest stimulus or relief package, whichever you prefer, that we've ever

00:02:00.360 had in American history.

00:02:01.920 Some people are saying it's the worst abomination that has ever passed in the United States.

00:02:07.080 Some people are saying it's all dandy.

00:02:09.380 As with any bill like this, there is a lot that's good, there is a lot that's bad, and

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00:03:28.940 What is in this bill?

00:03:31.160 Well, I think the first question you got to ask is why did it take so damn long to pass?

00:03:37.020 Okay, we were supposed to get a vote on this coronavirus relief package Saturday or Sunday

00:03:41.600 over the weekend.

00:03:42.900 Here we are.

00:03:43.380 It's now Thursday, and we just got it in the middle of the night last night.

00:03:46.440 So what happened?

00:03:48.440 First of all, Nancy Pelosi happened.

00:03:50.400 Nancy Pelosi came in at the last minute and basically said, we'll only pass the coronavirus 0.95

00:03:54.340 relief package if you also pass the Green New Deal in the coronavirus relief package.

00:03:59.400 It was just total bogus partisan trash.

00:04:02.980 She tried to use it as an excuse to make airlines lower their emission standards,

00:04:08.620 to make corporate boards answer to the government for some intersectional identity boxes.

00:04:14.000 I mean, an absolute fantasy.

00:04:17.060 You know, it was a really cynical, cheap way to play the whole negotiation.

00:04:20.380 Republicans, to their credit, did not play it that way.

00:04:22.800 They actually focused everything on the coronavirus.

00:04:25.860 Democrats did not do that.

00:04:27.160 So that took a while to iron out.

00:04:28.320 Luckily, Nancy Pelosi got absolutely hammered in the press for trying to do this. 1.00

00:04:32.500 So she dropped most of what she was after.

00:04:35.740 Then the bill was slated for a vote two days ago, but it hit a last minute snag because

00:04:41.980 Senator Lindsey Graham, among others, actually including Senator Cruz, pointed out that there

00:04:46.680 was an error in the bill.

00:04:48.080 I mean, it was just a bad incentive.

00:04:50.960 I don't know if it was put there intentionally.

00:04:52.760 I don't think it was.

00:04:53.440 I think it was simply stupidity.

00:04:55.700 It turned out that the bill actually incentivized people not to go back to work.

00:05:02.440 Here's Lindsey Graham explaining it.

00:05:04.280 If you're a nurse aide making $15 or $16 an hour, you're on the front lines here.

00:05:10.240 A lot of doctor's offices are going to have to roll back because elective surgery is no

00:05:15.560 longer a source of income for a bunch of doctors.

00:05:19.320 So you're going to have all these well-trained nurses that are going to make $24 an hour on 1.00

00:05:25.140 unemployment.

00:05:26.500 You're literally incentivizing taking people out of the workforce at a time when we need

00:05:32.280 critical infrastructure supplied with workers.

00:05:35.680 So that's a big problem.

00:05:37.660 In the bill, the legislation gives an extra $600 per week in unemployment for up to four

00:05:45.900 months.

00:05:47.080 So that's very, very generous.

00:05:50.580 I mean, compared to say, if you just look at Texas, for example, Texas, you can make up

00:05:56.060 to around $550 per month in unemployment.

00:06:00.240 If you add $600 to that, that's more than 100% raise.

00:06:02.940 But then the trouble is, let's say you get paid $15 an hour for your job.

00:06:07.420 All of a sudden, you're making $25, maybe $28 an hour for your job.

00:06:10.840 You have no reason to go back to work to make the $15 an hour, right?

00:06:15.040 It'd be much better for you to stay on unemployment for the four months that you can get it.

00:06:19.560 You make significantly more money, but that will drag the economy.

00:06:22.960 The whole point of this relief package is to keep the economy going to prevent a collapse.

00:06:27.120 So if you have an incentive in there that tells people don't go back to work, you can

00:06:30.900 actually make more money sitting on your couch, that's not going to be particularly helpful.

00:06:35.660 That's actually going to be very counterproductive.

00:06:38.200 So the Republicans pointed this out.

00:06:40.220 Democrats didn't care. 0.99

00:06:41.520 Because you've got to remember, we'll see later in the show more evidence of this, the

00:06:44.580 Democrats don't want the economy to recover, right?

00:06:47.440 An economy that recovers hurts them in November.

00:06:50.460 So they're trying to drag this thing out as long as possible.

00:06:52.680 All the new scientific studies that have come out and scientific analyses that show that

00:06:56.860 coronavirus may in fact be much, much less dire and much less deadly than we previously

00:07:02.420 thought.

00:07:02.900 We went through those studies yesterday from Stanford, analysis from Yale, analysis from

00:07:07.760 Oxford, right?

00:07:09.200 We went through all of that.

00:07:11.980 They're hiding that.

00:07:13.140 The left doesn't want to report on it because they want the economic crisis to go on.

00:07:16.760 So the bad news is the Republicans lost when it came to that unemployment provision.

00:07:21.400 That's too bad.

00:07:22.640 That's just a dumb provision of the bill.

00:07:24.740 It is going to hamper the economy.

00:07:26.060 We're spending $2 trillion on this thing.

00:07:28.360 And frankly, we might end up spending more.

00:07:30.780 But, you know, if you're spending $2 trillion, you want the thing to help the unemployment

00:07:36.960 situation.

00:07:37.540 You want it to help the economy.

00:07:38.780 That is going to hurt it.

00:07:39.820 That's too bad.

00:07:40.460 That's one of the bad portions of the bill.

00:07:42.200 A bill gives $100 billion to hospitals.

00:07:44.180 That's probably a good idea.

00:07:45.280 You know, you still want to prepare as though this is a very, very, very serious epidemic.

00:07:51.680 You want to prepare for the worst case scenario.

00:07:54.140 You just don't want to destroy the economy while you do it.

00:07:56.620 So $100 billion to hospitals makes sense to me.

00:07:59.320 $58 billion to airlines.

00:08:01.060 None of us wants to give credit to airlines, but we do need air travel.

00:08:05.300 The airlines are absolutely hemorrhaging money right now.

00:08:08.900 This was agreed to by both parties.

00:08:11.940 It just seems like the sort of thing you have to do.

00:08:14.160 It's unfortunate, but you probably have to do it.

00:08:15.780 It includes a tax credit for retaining your workforce.

00:08:20.820 So businesses, if they don't fire their workforce during the shutdown, they will get a major tax

00:08:27.740 credit.

00:08:28.060 I think it's up to about $5,000 per employee.

00:08:31.680 Great idea.

00:08:32.760 What we want to incentivize here is not simply businesses remaining profitable, or if they're

00:08:39.200 not going to remain profitable, at least keeping cash.

00:08:41.100 What we want to incentivize is them not firing their workforce.

00:08:44.600 This is a great way to do it.

00:08:46.020 Very smart portion of the bill.

00:08:48.640 $150 billion to state and local government.

00:08:51.040 This is probably going to be wasteful.

00:08:52.780 This is something the Democrats were asking for and Republicans more or less caved.

00:08:56.800 Now, there is a federalism argument here, which is that most of the epidemic relief is going

00:09:01.300 to come from the states and the local governments.

00:09:03.660 It's not going to come from the federal level.

00:09:05.700 So you can empower the states to use that money.

00:09:09.280 Yeah.

00:09:09.800 Okay.

00:09:10.280 What are they going to really use the money for?

00:09:11.900 Probably they're going to fritter it away.

00:09:13.780 That's too bad.

00:09:14.640 If I were writing the bill, that would have been significantly lower.

00:09:18.880 $10.5 billion to the Pentagon.

00:09:20.840 The Pentagon always gets money in these bills.

00:09:22.440 That's just the way it works.

00:09:23.340 And that's fine.

00:09:23.880 I mean, this epidemic is in many ways a national security issue.

00:09:27.180 So whatever.

00:09:28.320 Drop in the bucket when you're talking about $2 trillion.

00:09:31.080 $24 billion for farmers and ranchers.

00:09:34.340 That's fine.

00:09:34.960 I mean, obviously they're getting disrupted because of this total shutdown.

00:09:38.880 $24 billion to food stamps and child nutrition.

00:09:43.400 Food stamps is a very abused program.

00:09:46.220 However, in the shutdown, one big issue has been that schools very often are providing

00:09:51.100 the only nutrition that children are getting per day.

00:09:54.480 And that's unfortunate.

00:09:56.240 And parents should be held to account for that.

00:09:58.180 And if you can't feed your kid one meal a day or two meals a day, you should not be able

00:10:02.840 to have a child.

00:10:03.660 You know, you should have to answer for that.

00:10:05.720 That's criminal because I think a lot of the time it's, you know, we're not talking about

00:10:09.520 Jean Valjean and Les Mis, you know, people living on the street trying to steal a loaf

00:10:13.360 of bread.

00:10:13.800 Very often it's about poor economic choices and not prioritizing feeding one's children

00:10:18.280 over other spending habits and relying on the government to do that for you.

00:10:23.140 Nevertheless, you probably had to include it in there.

00:10:25.740 And then the most important provision is $500 billion to industries.

00:10:30.560 These $500 billion, fortunately, comes in the form of loans.

00:10:35.860 So it's not simply a $500 billion handout.

00:10:39.640 Now, if the industries and the businesses meet certain criteria, then they will have those

00:10:44.080 loans forgiven.

00:10:45.080 Criteria like, for instance, not firing your workforce.

00:10:48.380 There are also a lot of shackles put on the businesses.

00:10:51.680 So they can't just buy back a lot of stock.

00:10:54.060 They can't, they can't just use this $500 billion loan to line their own pockets.

00:10:59.560 I'm pretty fine with that.

00:11:01.020 I think actually that's the best part of the bill.

00:11:02.740 That's the part Republicans were really pushing for and the Democrats were pushing against.

00:11:07.140 And then there's probably maybe the most controversial part of the bill, which I'll get to in one

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00:12:24.060 The most controversial part of this, as far as I'm concerned, is the $1,200 check that's

00:12:29.160 going out to some Americans.

00:12:31.420 Not all Americans, but some Americans.

00:12:33.400 If you make more than $100,000 a year, you're not going to get a check.

00:12:37.480 And if you make more than $75,000 a year, the check starts to get phased out.

00:12:42.220 This part I'm least jazzed about.

00:12:44.400 The reason I'm least jazzed about it is not because people don't need money.

00:12:47.160 People do need money.

00:12:48.160 But it'd be much better for those people to be able to keep their job than to just get

00:12:52.740 a one-time $1,200 check from the government, right?

00:12:55.840 And so you could have put those resources into making sure that we protect those jobs.

00:12:59.400 $1,200 check, by the way, very likely not going to do much to stimulate the economy.

00:13:03.620 Um, there's more or less an economic consensus about that.

00:13:07.380 And the downside of it is it gets people habituated to this idea of universal basic income, which

00:13:13.240 is a horrible, anti-human, very bad, no good, dumb Andrew Yang idea.

00:13:18.720 So don't care for that all that much.

00:13:21.840 Um, however, it was certainly going to go in there.

00:13:25.140 Uh, you know, that was, that was being pushed by Republicans and Democrats and in the grand

00:13:29.020 scope of this bill, you know, not, not the biggest issue.

00:13:32.360 This is a fundamentally different from TARP or the Obama era stimulus because those stimulus

00:13:37.740 packages were reacting to companies.

00:13:40.780 They were bailing out companies who in many ways had dug their own grave.

00:13:43.860 In this case, people didn't dig their own grave.

00:13:45.900 They didn't cause this problem.

00:13:47.800 They had, you know, we're, we're just told because of a Chinese epidemic that they couldn't 1.00

00:13:52.660 do business anymore.

00:13:53.980 If this brings us a step closer to getting out of this China inflicted economic disaster, 0.99

00:13:59.120 do I love the bill?

00:14:00.240 No.

00:14:00.600 Do I think it was necessary?

00:14:02.600 Yes.

00:14:03.220 Is it the least bad option?

00:14:05.300 Yeah, very possibly, very possibly it is.

00:14:08.240 And the thing we're all dealing with, even as we complain about it, is the fact that the

00:14:11.620 coronavirus has a cost.

00:14:14.140 So it gets us, it's getting us, I think, a step closer to getting out of the economic

00:14:17.300 disaster.

00:14:18.200 It's also getting us closer to getting out of the China inflicted medical disaster. 0.98

00:14:23.300 The, you know, the stimulus itself might not be getting us out of that medical disaster,

00:14:27.920 but we are, we are apparently getting closer to seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

00:14:34.640 We noticed this from, you know, major scientific experts.

00:14:39.420 We went through some studies yesterday and now Dr. Deborah Birx, who is one of the top

00:14:44.600 people on the White House Coronavirus Task Force, is saying that the numbers that we're

00:14:49.360 all hearing in the mainstream media are frightening.

00:14:51.560 They're probably overhyped.

00:14:52.980 And the science is actually much more hopeful.

00:14:57.480 The numbers that have been put out there are actually very frightening to people.

00:15:03.400 But I can tell you, if you go back and look at Wuhan and Hubei and all of these provinces,

00:15:10.320 when they talk about 60,000 people being infected, even if you said, oh, right, well, there's

00:15:16.700 asymptomatics and all of that.

00:15:18.420 So you get to 600,000 people out of 80 million.

00:15:23.000 That is nowhere close to the numbers that you see people putting out there.

00:15:27.520 I think it has frightened the American people.

00:15:30.000 I think on a freely, on a model that you just run full out, you can get to those numbers

00:15:34.780 if you have zero controls and you do nothing.

00:15:38.160 And we know that every American is doing something.

00:15:41.640 Right.

00:15:42.320 This is so important.

00:15:44.000 Even if you don't trust China's numbers, Deborah Birx there is saying, OK, let's say it's

00:15:47.980 an order of magnitude more in terms of infections.

00:15:50.780 That's still not a huge percentage in that area.

00:15:54.900 You know, a lot of the hysteria came from that Imperial College study out of the United

00:15:59.080 Kingdom.

00:16:00.180 People concluded in the United States that two million Americans could die.

00:16:03.720 I mean, I suppose it's possible.

00:16:06.280 But increasingly, the analysis shows that might have been very hyped.

00:16:09.840 And what Deborah Birx is saying there is maybe you can get to those numbers on your computer

00:16:14.160 models if nobody changes any of their behavior, if nobody even starts washing their hands a

00:16:18.020 little bit more.

00:16:18.700 But everybody has radically changed their behavior.

00:16:21.260 So there would seem to be some place between don't even wash your hands and destroy the

00:16:26.400 global economy and lock everything down and don't leave your apartment that would be a

00:16:30.880 happy medium that would mitigate the risk significantly and also acknowledge the reality of how we all

00:16:38.400 get on in the world.

00:16:39.860 So that's that's what the science shows.

00:16:43.980 However, there is this reaction on the left that hasn't kept up with the science.

00:16:49.100 So what the left keeps saying is we need we need to listen to the scientists.

00:16:53.280 We need to listen to the analysis.

00:16:54.740 And yet when you get new analysis out of Yale, Stanford, Oxford, Deborah Birx updating people,

00:17:00.680 calling out the mainstream media for hyping this thing.

00:17:02.920 When you get all of that new information, the left doesn't change their tune.

00:17:06.780 And here is Andrew Cuomo, furious at the president for declaring that he hopes to be done with

00:17:11.940 all of this and get the economy going again by Easter because of the science.

00:17:17.260 Easter Sunday and you'll have packed churches all over our country.

00:17:22.360 I think it would be a beautiful time.

00:17:24.960 Based on what?

00:17:27.920 No expert backed him up on the Easter call.

00:17:32.100 Not one piece of science, not one projection.

00:17:35.700 Sorry, I'm very sorry.

00:17:37.780 I have to make an apology here to Andy Cuomo.

00:17:42.140 I'm sorry for confusing you with your brother, Chris Cuomo, the Fredo of the Cuomo family.

00:17:46.980 I'm sorry that I confused the far superior Cuomo damning with faint praise, but still with

00:17:53.500 the Fredo of the family.

00:17:54.760 And what Fredo just said is simply not true.

00:17:58.940 Right.

00:17:59.420 I just recited to you the scientists we've read in the last few days who have stated explicitly

00:18:03.800 that fears of coronavirus, the panic of coronavirus is overblown, including a Nobel laureate, including

00:18:12.540 people from all those fancy schools with all those fancy degrees and all those fancy professorships.

00:18:16.500 You know, those two Stanford scientists we read yesterday said that the mortality rate might

00:18:22.860 be orders of magnitude lower than what is being projected and reported in the press.

00:18:28.080 Oxford study says the same thing.

00:18:30.300 But apparently, Dr. Chris Cuomo, Professor Chris Cuomo knows so much more about the science,

00:18:35.160 capital S with a trademark over the E than the actual scientists do.

00:18:39.720 This is typical of the left.

00:18:41.600 They always, they invoke science as though it were a deity as they're, they're, they're

00:18:45.440 giving homage, they're worshiping the science, but that doesn't have a lot to do with the

00:18:50.520 academic analysis.

00:18:51.460 It has a whole lot to do with the kind of invention of science as merely affirming their own prejudiced

00:19:00.080 and preconceived notions.

00:19:01.940 Chris Cuomo goes on.

00:19:03.300 I'm not sure the president knows Easter's theme.

00:19:06.720 It's rebirth and renewal.

00:19:08.080 But assuming he does, why would he invite the opposite of rebirth and renewal?

00:19:14.560 Fact, more than 100 Americans died from coronavirus today.

00:19:19.200 More than 700 total.

00:19:21.920 The virus is accelerating.

00:19:24.540 So with those as the facts, give me one reason it would be safe or smart or effective to reopen

00:19:34.120 during the period of most cases.

00:19:38.100 Fact, he says, 100 people died of coronavirus in one day.

00:19:41.740 Another fact, 100 people died in car accidents on the very same day and every single day.

00:19:46.300 When you just state these facts completely out of context, they, they don't tell us much

00:19:51.500 about the thing we're discussing.

00:19:53.260 Chris Cuomo says that the virus is accelerating.

00:19:55.500 Is that true?

00:19:56.080 Or is diagnosis just accelerating?

00:19:58.300 The big complaint from the left is the testing has not been available.

00:20:00.980 Now testing is more widely available.

00:20:02.800 Of course, diagnosis is going to increase.

00:20:05.580 But are we sure that the diagnosis increasing is because of the virus itself accelerating?

00:20:10.840 I think actually the models we've looked at around the world suggests probably that isn't

00:20:14.880 true.

00:20:15.280 When you see spikes in flu-related, pneumonia-related illnesses and deaths even a couple of months

00:20:21.620 ago, do we think that has no relationship to the virus?

00:20:23.920 We really think the virus just dropped out of thin air on March 1st or something at the

00:20:27.380 end of February?

00:20:28.500 Probably not.

00:20:29.540 I don't think so.

00:20:31.120 Chris Cuomo says that it is a fact that Easter Day will be especially bad for coronavirus.

00:20:37.200 That's not a scientific fact.

00:20:38.900 That is the prediction of a TV political pundit and the Fredo of the Cuomo family.

00:20:45.080 Not a fact.

00:20:45.740 The most troubling aspect of this for me is the left using science, capital S, TM over

00:20:52.800 the E, as an excuse to avoid political debate.

00:20:56.140 You see this exemplified by a writer named Molly Jong Fast, who I love using her tweets

00:21:03.720 and things as examples because she's just so out there. 0.57

00:21:08.920 I don't mean that as an insult.

00:21:10.000 I mean, she's out there giving the opinion of the left.

00:21:14.360 She's kind of honest or guileless about it.

00:21:16.320 So she tweets out, OMG, I would kill for a presser with only doctors and scientists.

00:21:22.920 Hashtag doctors only press conferences.

00:21:26.520 She doesn't want Trump or the coronavirus task force to give press conferences, just

00:21:30.840 the scientists and the doctors.

00:21:33.220 First of all, something tells me she wouldn't actually like a presser with those scientists.

00:21:37.760 I don't think she'd like a presser with the Yale scientist, Dr. Katz, who wrote in the

00:21:42.620 New York Times that this has been overhyped.

00:21:44.320 I don't think she'd want a presser with the Stanford scientists.

00:21:46.820 I don't think she'd want a presser with the Oxford scientists, right?

00:21:49.900 She only wants a presser with the scientists who she and others on the left have been citing.

00:21:54.980 But beyond that, I don't want my policy dictated by scientific tyrants, okay?

00:22:06.180 I don't, I didn't, I didn't elect Dr. Fauci, okay?

00:22:09.100 I like Dr. Fauci, but I didn't elect the guy.

00:22:11.120 I don't want him to have total control over our response to the coronavirus epidemic.

00:22:17.220 I didn't elect these scientific experts.

00:22:20.180 We have politics in this country so that we can discuss and debate different priorities.

00:22:24.420 Politics is not a clean-cut science.

00:22:27.800 It's not like there's always a clear answer.

00:22:29.600 It's about weighing different priorities, taking into account in our country the opinions

00:22:33.940 of the American people, viewing things not just through a lens of completely stopping

00:22:38.460 a virus, which is not possible, but also by balancing our liberties, also by balancing

00:22:43.460 what is likely to occur, also by balancing the economy.

00:22:48.340 So I certainly don't want that.

00:22:50.120 The left, you know, scratch out leftist and you get a tyrant underneath.

00:22:54.420 And I think that's what we're seeing here.

00:22:56.000 But ironically, in this case, the tyrants that they want to put up are increasingly disagreeing

00:23:01.700 with them.

00:23:02.840 We've got a lot more to get to.

00:23:04.180 We've got to go to Trump calling out the fake news in a beautiful way.

00:23:07.660 We've got to get to how the coronavirus is a gendered crisis, but not in the way that 0.93

00:23:12.040 the left thinks it is.

00:23:13.120 And then we've got to get to Joe Biden's Me Too moment.

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00:24:22.320 It is now transparent that the left wants this crisis to go on regardless of what economists

00:24:27.920 suggest and regardless of what the medical experts suggest.

00:24:32.320 So, the Washington Post just sends out this new piece.

00:24:38.540 It's titled, Trump is spreading false hope for a virus cure and that's not the only damage.

00:24:46.120 This is an editorial put out by the editorial board, not by scientists, by the editorial

00:24:50.060 board, which says that the drug that's now being touted, not just by Trump, but also by

00:24:55.980 Andy Cuomo, by a lot of people, hydroxychloroquine has shown promise in terms of mitigating the

00:25:03.860 virus and yet they're saying it's false hope, there's no cure, stop it, don't go away.

00:25:08.760 They actually talk about how it's been shown to be somewhat effective and more effective

00:25:14.900 than anything else we've looked at, but they don't want that answer.

00:25:18.040 It kind of reminds me how in the New York Times, they ran this op-ed the other day from

00:25:21.540 Dr. Katz from Yale saying this is all being overhyped and then the editorial board comes

00:25:25.960 out and says, no, no, it's not, panic, be worried, be alarmed.

00:25:30.020 So, you've got the scientists saying, not a huge deal.

00:25:32.020 Then you've got the journalists who, I use that term loosely, they're just left-wing

00:25:36.720 political operatives out to get Donald Trump and every other Republican.

00:25:40.180 They're the ones saying, no, you should panic, no, you should worry.

00:25:44.300 President Trump has had enough of this.

00:25:46.520 He was giving another one of his daily pressers, one of the greatest things to come out of this

00:25:51.400 coronavirus pandemic, and he called them out as fake news.

00:25:55.180 Is this Easter timeline based on your political interests?

00:25:58.060 What do you mean by election success?

00:25:59.860 You tweeted, you said that the media wants the country to remain closed to hurt your office

00:26:04.300 to be re-elected.

00:26:05.280 No, no, I think the media, yeah, no, the media would like to see me do poorly in the election.

00:26:08.320 I think, I think-

00:26:09.060 Lawmakers and economists on both sides of the aisle have said that reopening the country

00:26:12.540 by Easter is not a good idea.

00:26:14.440 What is that plan based on?

00:26:15.680 Just so you understand, are you ready?

00:26:17.740 I think there are certain people that would like it not to open so quickly.

00:26:21.400 I think there are certain people that would like it to do financially poorly because

00:26:25.340 they think that would be very good as far as defeating me at the polls.

00:26:29.380 And I don't know if that's so, but I do think it's so that a lot of, that there are people

00:26:34.700 in your profession that would like that to happen.

00:26:37.620 I think it's very clear, I think it's very clear that there are people in your profession

00:26:44.120 that write fake news.

00:26:45.600 You do, she does.

00:26:47.660 There are people in your profession that write fake news.

00:26:50.420 They would love to see me for whatever reason, because we've done one hell of a job.

00:26:55.080 Nobody's done the job that we've done.

00:26:56.720 And it's lucky that you have this group here right now for this problem, or you wouldn't

00:27:02.260 even have a country left.

00:27:03.760 Bingo, baby.

00:27:04.720 There it is.

00:27:05.320 Some people in that profession are writing fake news.

00:27:09.200 Not everybody, but some people certainly are.

00:27:11.560 A great example of this, the Washington Post, I kid you not, ran an article going after a random

00:27:21.780 guy on Twitter for suggesting that maybe we shouldn't panic and maybe we shouldn't destroy

00:27:25.740 the economy.

00:27:26.360 I kid you not.

00:27:27.240 Here's the tweet.

00:27:28.980 Scott McMillan, a 56-year-old lawyer, tweeted that it's more vital to revive the economy than

00:27:33.760 to save people who are not productive, like the elderly and infirm.

00:27:37.060 So I called his parents.

00:27:41.320 Great crack reporting, guys.

00:27:43.360 Wow.

00:27:43.960 Democracy dies in darkness.

00:27:45.820 The Washington Post is so pissed off that this pandemic is not going to completely destroy

00:27:50.860 the world and we're not going to shut down the global economy for six months, that they

00:27:55.000 are now finding random people on Twitter.

00:27:56.940 This guy, Scott McMillan, had 400 Twitter followers, not 400,000, 400, and then found

00:28:03.640 his parents' phone number and called them to tattletale on their son.

00:28:06.660 And guess what?

00:28:07.180 The parents said they agreed.

00:28:09.040 That's the best part of it all.

00:28:10.560 The parents told the Washington Post, yeah, maybe we shouldn't destroy the global economy

00:28:14.620 based on these numbers that, you know, some people are going to become ill with the

00:28:19.340 virus because people get ill with viruses all the time.

00:28:22.060 You don't freak out about the other viruses, but this one is politically convenient.

00:28:25.640 So anyway, a great example, very embarrassing for the Washington Post, even that they would

00:28:32.380 run it.

00:28:32.800 I mean, you'd think that they would come to their senses and some self-awareness, but

00:28:36.220 self-awareness is just simply not a trait among the left.

00:28:42.880 So this is also a gendered crisis, is it not?

00:28:47.400 This is what we're being told by the political left, specifically by an Australian senator,

00:28:53.100 Maureen Faruqi.

00:28:55.040 This Australian senator is very upset.

00:28:57.380 Now, she's right in that there is a gender component to the coronavirus, but it's not exactly

00:29:03.440 the one that she says it is.

00:29:05.100 Let's not forget that COVID-19 is a gendered crisis. 0.94

00:29:08.800 Nurses, nurse aides, teachers, child carers and early childhood educators, aged care workers

00:29:16.460 and cleaners are mostly women. 0.98

00:29:18.980 They are on the front line of this public health crisis and carry a disproportionate risk of

00:29:24.420 being exposed to the virus.

00:29:26.680 Let's also not forget that not all homes are safe places.

00:29:30.680 Quarantine or self-isolation at home will put women and children at risk.

00:29:35.080 Women's advocates and domestic violence experts are warning us that domestic abuse increases

00:29:41.140 during times of crisis.

00:29:42.860 And I'm terribly worried that these warnings have not been heeded by this government that

00:29:47.340 has long resisted adequate funding for the needed resources and refugees.

00:29:52.000 Okay, so what she's saying is just not true.

00:29:56.840 The vast majority of coronavirus patients are men.

00:30:00.960 So it's a gendered crisis in that it is affecting men more.

00:30:04.080 But the left can't handle that because men, they're not victims. 0.63

00:30:07.660 Men can never be victims.

00:30:08.540 Only women can be victims. 1.00

00:30:09.920 The Atlantic ran a piece.

00:30:10.940 The coronavirus is a disaster for feminism. 1.00

00:30:13.900 Pandemics affect men and women differently.

00:30:15.700 Purely as a physical illness, the coronavirus appears to affect women less severely.

00:30:19.380 So at least they admit that purely as a viral, medical, physical illness, but as a spiritual

00:30:25.780 illness, right?

00:30:27.040 They go on.

00:30:27.680 In the past few days, the conversation about the pandemic has broadened.

00:30:30.500 Yeah, it's broadened because all your facts are falling apart.

00:30:32.640 So now you've got to broaden it into politics.

00:30:35.300 The coronavirus smashes up the bargain that so many dual earner couples have made in the 1.00

00:30:38.980 developed world.

00:30:40.000 We can both work because someone else is looking after our children.

00:30:43.620 Instead, couples will decide which one of them takes the hit. 0.98

00:30:46.200 What a disgusting thing to write.

00:30:48.220 They're saying like, yeah, the promise of the developed world is that none of us has to

00:30:51.460 raise our children anymore.

00:30:52.680 We can just pay people to do that for us.

00:30:54.800 But now one of us is going to have to take the hit of actually interacting with our child.

00:30:59.680 Oh, woe is me. 1.00

00:31:00.960 How awful.

00:31:01.800 Shows you how perverse these guys are looking at it.

00:31:04.260 By the way, we're just getting some breaking news.

00:31:06.180 It's coming out of the UK.

00:31:08.040 We've been talking about how the scientific hysteria is now breaking down.

00:31:11.700 So much of it was based on the Imperial College study.

00:31:14.040 There is now another expert coming out saying that unlike what the Imperial College study

00:31:20.460 said, that Britain is going to get decimated by this thing, it now seems that Britain does

00:31:25.820 have enough intensive care units for the patients that the Imperial College study, which sparked

00:31:30.900 all this alarmism, was just wrong.

00:31:33.820 Does that mean we shouldn't take the virus seriously?

00:31:35.960 No, of course not.

00:31:36.780 We should take it seriously.

00:31:37.860 We should do everything we can.

00:31:39.220 Take precautionary measures.

00:31:40.420 Wash your hands. 0.95

00:31:41.380 Wash your face. 0.99

00:31:42.460 Social distance.

00:31:43.140 Don't kiss people in the middle of the street.

00:31:44.960 But does it mean that the evidence shows we should shut down the global economy?

00:31:48.880 I don't think so, Buster.

00:31:50.220 Before we get to Mailbag, I've got to get to one quick story.

00:31:53.640 Oh boy, is this one exciting.

00:31:55.800 This is Joe Biden.

00:31:57.020 Speaking of women. 1.00

00:31:57.880 Speaking of a gendered crisis. 1.00

00:31:59.440 Joe Biden has a serious Me Too allegation against him.

00:32:02.400 Tara Reade has apparently been trying to tell her story since this altercation in 1993 1.00

00:32:08.360 of Joe Biden Me Too-ing her.

00:32:10.660 Now, for some reason, we haven't heard about it until right now.

00:32:13.500 Here is Tara Reade explaining it.

00:32:16.040 He just said, hey, come here, Tara.

00:32:17.500 And then I handed him the thing and he greeted me.

00:32:21.300 He remembered my name.

00:32:23.060 And then we were alone and it was the strangest thing.

00:32:27.660 There was no, like, exchange, really.

00:32:31.200 He just had me up against the wall.

00:32:34.620 And I was wearing, like, a skirt and, you know, business skirt.

00:32:40.320 But I wasn't wearing stockings.

00:32:41.600 It was kind of a hot day that day.

00:32:43.320 And I was wearing heels.

00:32:45.300 And I remember my legs had been hurting from the marble, you know, of the Capitol.

00:32:49.520 Like, walking.

00:32:50.140 And so I remember that kind of stuff.

00:32:52.680 I remember, like, I was wearing a blouse.

00:32:55.000 And he just had me up against the wall.

00:32:57.840 And the wall was cold.

00:32:59.580 And I remember he, it happened all at once.

00:33:02.140 The gym bag, I don't know where it went.

00:33:04.400 I handed it to him.

00:33:05.040 It was gone.

00:33:05.460 And then his hands were on me and underneath my clothes.

00:33:08.140 And, yeah, and then he went, oh, he went down my skirt, but then up inside it.

00:33:17.440 And he penetrated me with his fingers.

00:33:22.300 Whoa, man, that's a whole lot more than shoulder massages.

00:33:25.660 That's much more than we've heard from Biden before.

00:33:28.260 You know, this woman, she came out a little while ago and said that Biden put his hands

00:33:36.280 on her shoulders and ran his fingers up and down her neck.

00:33:39.340 She did that last spring after Lucy Flores, another political opponent of Joe Biden's, 0.95

00:33:46.680 came out and said basically the same thing.

00:33:48.340 I definitely believe that sort of thing happened.

00:33:50.200 But only now we're hearing he, what, he actually just went down and got, like, very aggressive

00:33:55.100 with her.

00:33:56.060 She concludes her story.

00:33:58.320 For him saying first, like, as he was doing it, do you want to go somewhere else?

00:34:02.740 And then him saying to me, when I pulled away, he got finished doing what he was doing.

00:34:09.480 And I kind of was pulled back.

00:34:11.340 And he said, he said, come on, man, I heard you liked me.

00:34:15.480 And it's that phrase stayed with me because I kept thinking what I might have said.

00:34:20.780 And I can't remember exactly if he said I thought or if I heard.

00:34:23.820 But it's like he implied, like, that I had done this.

00:34:27.300 Like, I don't know.

00:34:28.520 Well, look, the phrase, come on, man, is a classic Bidenism.

00:34:32.020 We hear him say that all the time.

00:34:33.220 Come on, man.

00:34:34.200 Hey, come on, man.

00:34:35.620 So, serious allegation.

00:34:37.600 Do I believe her?

00:34:39.120 No.

00:34:40.200 Not saying it couldn't have happened, but I need more evidence before I'm willing to

00:34:44.580 say that this actually happened.

00:34:46.360 Why do I feel skeptical about her account?

00:34:50.460 It's been a really long time and we've never heard anything about this.

00:34:53.320 We've never heard similar accounts.

00:34:55.080 We've heard that Joe Biden gets creepy with the shoulder massages and the hair smelling,

00:34:58.300 but we've never heard this kind of thing, right?

00:35:00.280 He's not considered a womanizer in D.C.

00:35:02.540 He doesn't have the reputation of Bill Clinton.

00:35:05.440 The expose seems too contrived.

00:35:07.680 She came out a year ago and said that he gave her shoulder massages and then that didn't

00:35:11.980 work to take him down. 0.74

00:35:12.860 So now she's trying a new story.

00:35:14.640 Okay.

00:35:14.960 It just seems a little contrived.

00:35:16.180 Maybe it happened, but evidence doesn't seem to back that up.

00:35:19.440 And then the other problem is she does seem like a genuine nut.

00:35:22.120 So there's a Medium article that she wrote.

00:35:25.060 She's since deleted it, but it's been circulating, where she says she left politics because America

00:35:34.440 was too anti-Russia and she loves Russia.

00:35:37.520 And she said, I love Russia with all my heart.

00:35:39.820 Quote, I can't understand the xenophobia that's come from my own American government.

00:35:44.980 Quote, President Putin scares the power elite in America because he's a compassionate,

00:35:49.120 caring, visionary leader.

00:35:50.740 Look, whatever you think about Vladimir Putin, compassionate is probably not one of the words

00:35:55.960 that I would use, right?

00:35:57.480 The ex-KGB thug who murders journalists.

00:36:00.900 It's not compassionate.

00:36:02.480 Maybe you can say he's a typical Russian leader or he's a strong Russian leader, but I don't

00:36:07.940 know about compassion.

00:36:08.620 That's pretty weird.

00:36:09.480 President Putin has higher approval ratings in America than the American president.

00:36:12.880 I don't know if that's true.

00:36:14.340 President Putin is beloved by Russia and he's not going anywhere.

00:36:17.080 Okay, so to President Putin, I say, keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe just

00:36:22.380 maybe America will come to see Russia as I do.

00:36:25.160 Okay, this is just one example.

00:36:27.460 One thing that we know about the girl is she pushes Russian propaganda and loves Vladimir Putin.

00:36:33.860 So just makes me think she's not totally all there with it.

00:36:37.940 Who knows?

00:36:38.380 We don't, we don't really know anything, anything else about the gal, but from all the

00:36:43.600 evidence we see here, I won't take this claim terribly seriously except for this reason.

00:36:50.920 What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

00:36:53.020 Joe Biden during the Brett Kavanaugh thing, by the way, the allegations against Brett Kavanaugh

00:36:56.500 were much less serious and much less credible than the allegations against Joe Biden.

00:37:03.080 All right, at least we know Joe Biden gets creepy with people and massages their shoulders

00:37:06.060 and smells them and stuff. Brett Kavanaugh, no evidence he ever did any of that. During

00:37:09.480 Kavanaugh, Biden says, what should happen is the woman should be given the benefit of the 0.99

00:37:13.080 doubt and not be, you know, abused again by the system. I hope that they understand what

00:37:16.940 courage it takes for someone to come forward and relive what they believe happened to them

00:37:20.640 and let them state it, but treat her with respect. Okay, buddy. Well, it looks like we're

00:37:24.720 going to do that to you too, because if we're going to completely destroy due process rights and

00:37:29.040 we're going to allow political adversaries to come and destroy people with uncredible allegations,

00:37:34.700 then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We will get to the mailbag. We're typically

00:37:38.940 running late. First, I got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube. You know, we launched the

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00:38:13.940 I am going to burn through these questions, because we only have limited time and I want

00:38:18.660 to answer as many as possible. First one from Matt. Dear austere religious podcaster and Lord of

00:38:23.900 Covfefe. Your comment about Italy not having a functioning government since Octavian caused me

00:38:28.600 to reflect on Rome's first emperor. Was Octavian a tyrant or a father to the Romans in the same vein

00:38:35.060 as Washington or Lincoln? Keep up the great work. Came for Ben, stayed for Michael. A great question.

00:38:42.540 Octavian, or Caesar Augustus, is one of the most interesting historical figures that has ever lived.

00:38:50.580 By far the greatest leader of Rome. And now you're asking to compare him to Washington or Lincoln.

00:38:58.540 That's very difficult because Octavian kind of shows us that Rome is moving away from a Republican form

00:39:05.320 of government into an imperial form of government. Whereas Washington or Lincoln were strong advocates

00:39:11.260 of a Republican form of government. So in that way, not similar at all. But Octavian was a really

00:39:17.400 terrific ruler. People talk about the end of the Roman Republic and how everything went downhill.

00:39:21.500 Don't forget you had centuries of peace and prosperity after Rome became an empire. For a

00:39:26.180 while it was pretty good. And then it fell apart. And there's also the interesting historical coincidence

00:39:30.220 with Caesar Augustus or Octavian, which is that he lives a kind of parallel life to Christ at the time

00:39:36.700 of Christ. So Christ is called the Prince of Peace, right? His father is an adopted father,

00:39:43.580 or Joseph, because his true father is God. He's called the son of God. He institutes peace on earth.

00:39:51.980 Caesar Augustus, also an adopted child, is called the son of the divine because they viewed Caesar Augustus

00:39:59.620 as, in a way, divine. He also instituted an era of peace called the Pax Romana. And it happened at the

00:40:06.480 same time. You can call that coincidence. I think probably it's a little closer to Providence.

00:40:10.160 From Annie, quick question. On the lockdowns episode you did with Jeremy, you mentioned your

00:40:14.900 go-to drink when you're sick is a hot toddy. You know it. Do you have a favorite recipe you can

00:40:19.640 share? I did a search and discovered there are many variations of what would seem to be a simple

00:40:23.920 classic concoction. Thanks in advance. Yes, my recipe is very simple, very basic. Hot water,

00:40:31.020 lemon, honey, Weller's bourbon. Okay, that's it. Some people put tea. Some people use other kind

00:40:42.520 of whiskeys. I like Weller and I like my lemon, which is good. That's what, you know, those two

00:40:46.880 things kill the disease and hot water and honey. That's it. That's all you want. From Nick,

00:40:51.620 dear Michael, if you were only allowed one item from the store before being locked in under house

00:40:58.120 arrest, what one item would you grab? Thanks. Eggs. Duh. You don't really need toilet paper

00:41:05.900 for like, you don't need a lifetime supply of toilet paper. You know, if you're stuck at home,

00:41:12.320 maybe you've got a really nice palatial home and you've got a bidet. You know, you've got a shower,

00:41:16.700 you've got other pieces of paper. You'll be fine without that. Do you need water? No, you've got a

00:41:20.460 sink. Do you need booze? Well, hopefully you're stocked up already. Same thing with stogies. 1.00

00:41:24.980 What you do need though is eggs because with eggs, you can make breakfast, obviously.

00:41:29.460 You can make fresh pasta. You can make bread. Everybody's already got flour and stuff in

00:41:34.380 their home. So you just, what you need is the eggs. That's what people should be buying the

00:41:38.580 stores out of. From Vanessa, dear Michael, where the hell is the UN? All we hear is how important it is

00:41:45.720 to have a strong United Nations. But when it comes time to do anything like that, it seems like the USA

00:41:49.980 is the only one to bear the burden. Have you done any investigation into where the UN is now? Like,

00:41:57.820 what are they doing? And should the establishment continue? Thanks.

00:42:01.900 Where is the UN? The simple answer to that question is it's on the future site of the Trump

00:42:06.640 luxury condominiums on the east side of New York overlooking the East River. Yeah, the United 0.70

00:42:11.980 Nations is a almost entirely useless institution. What you've got to remember is, as John Bolton famously

00:42:18.200 said, there is no such thing as the United Nations. There is the interest of the United States and

00:42:25.100 there is the international community. Sometimes those two things intersect, in which case the

00:42:31.980 United Nations can be a fine vessel to mediate that. But when those things don't intersect,

00:42:38.860 it doesn't matter. I mean, the UN just doesn't do anything. Very often what it does is give a

00:42:43.820 platform for the worst people on earth to come and lecture us about how awful we are. And that's

00:42:47.960 ridiculous. And probably we shouldn't pay for that anymore. In so much as the UN allows us to build

00:42:55.280 some consensus to do what we were already going to do anyway, I suppose that's fine. But that sure is

00:43:00.720 an expensive way to do it. From Tyler, to the excellent Michael Knowles, the man with the greatest

00:43:05.900 hair and my spirit animal. I am getting married, hopefully without delays from Wuflu, in May and

00:43:11.480 my fiance is Catholic and I'm Methodist. After attending multiple masses, pre-Cana classes and

00:43:16.220 listening to your show, I felt more of a connection with the Catholic religion. My question is, what is

00:43:21.000 the process to convert and how long is this process? Thank you for all that you do. Well, Tyler,

00:43:26.800 congratulations. I'm very pleased to hear that you're getting married and that you're interested in

00:43:34.040 coming back to the church and swimming across the Tiber, as we say. The process is actually very

00:43:40.040 straightforward. You can enlist in something called RCIA classes. This is the rite of Christian 1.00

00:43:47.020 initiation and you'll learn everything that you need to learn. You know, it's not just like you're

00:43:52.580 jumping in without any knowledge of what it is. Really great classes. I've got friends of mine who

00:43:57.440 have converted from Judaism, taken the RCIA classes, who've converted from evangelical Christianity or

00:44:03.620 other Protestant groups. They've all gotten a lot. Even if you already know a ton about Christianity,

00:44:08.120 which if you're interested like this, you probably do, still really great refresher and might show

00:44:13.660 you things you haven't heard before. So get into RCIA. There are several steps in the process and then

00:44:18.420 you can become a full-on Catholic by next Easter or maybe even sooner, depending on your diocese.

00:44:26.040 From Claire, Michael, how do you define if an extremist group or regime is right-wing or left-wing?

00:44:31.720 It seems that most belief systems this extreme don't even remotely resemble either mainstream

00:44:36.440 view, so I never know how it is decided whether a group is right-wing or left-wing. Thanks. Well,

00:44:42.220 when you get to the fringes and the extremes, it does get a little bit complicated. I mean,

00:44:46.480 the classic example of this is the Nazis. Are the Nazis right-wing? In a way, they are. You know, 0.74

00:44:52.820 some conservatives want to say they have nothing to do with the right-wing. No, they do have something

00:44:56.140 to do with the right-wing. They are a little more interested in history. They're a little more

00:45:00.240 interested in tradition. They're a little more interested in, I don't know, monarchy or a kind

00:45:08.480 of like perverted version of monarchy, which tends to be historically more of a right-wing

00:45:13.520 preference. So in that way, I guess they're right-wing. They're also very left-wing in the sense that

00:45:19.320 Nazism, National Socialism, well, for one, is a form of socialism, but it's also very modernist. I mean,

00:45:27.380 it was very secular. It was actually very anti-Christian, anti-religious. All of that is

00:45:32.960 very left-wing. In many ways, it was pagan. Paganism was adopted by many members, high-ranking

00:45:39.440 Nazis. So in that way, it's very left-wing. It's very hard to classify it. The trouble is that even

00:45:45.720 our concept of right and left comes from the French Revolution. People who sat on the right side were

00:45:51.580 royalists, more favorable toward the established order, and people who were on the left side were

00:45:57.780 more radical. And so that moment, the French Revolution was such a radical moment in many

00:46:02.140 ways, the beginning of a modern era, doesn't totally correspond to all of those modern movements.

00:46:08.040 I'm a conservative, but I despise so much of political modernism that, you know, to put it into

00:46:15.700 a modernist framework would be so antithetical to anything that I like. So you've got to speak about

00:46:20.380 it precisely. To say it's totally left-wing or totally right-wing very often misses the point.

00:46:25.960 All right, we've got so many more questions, but we just don't have time. I'm sorry. I've tried to

00:46:31.840 bring you everything that I possibly can because so much is happening in our politics, in our biology,

00:46:38.420 in our medical field, and in our economy. So that's the update for now. Of course, this is changing by

00:46:43.880 the moment. So perhaps on Monday, everything will be completely different again, and we will get into it

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 26, 2020

Ep. 518 - The Least Bad Option

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