The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 521 - The Criminal Injustice Of Coronavirus

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00:00:37.740 While police departments around the country are springing child rapists from the slammer,

00:00:42.520 law enforcement is turning a decidedly less lenient eye on another group of miscreants, Christian pastors.

00:00:50.300 We will examine why preachers are getting arrested while the criminals run free.

00:00:53.980 Then, everyone from politicians to grocery store workers are jumping to take advantage of this pandemic.

00:01:00.380 We'll take a look at ethics in times of plague.

00:01:02.960 Finally, Joe Biden. Remember him? He's running for president.

00:01:05.660 He just launched a podcast.

00:01:07.520 And much like the entire mainstream media, he refuses to mention the Me Too allegations against him.

00:01:12.680 All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:15.220 You know, this pandemic has done pretty strange things to our criminal justice system or our criminal injustice system, if you prefer.

00:01:31.760 We talked yesterday about New York letting child rapists out of jail because they think that's going to slow the spread of the virus for some reason.

00:01:41.640 They let 50 criminals out of jail in New York, and of them, eight or nine were sex offenders, and of them, three were child sex offenders who were rated level three, the most likely to reoffend, and coincidentally, the least likely to respect social distancing.

00:01:59.100 So, they let them out of jail. That was a little strange. Didn't make a lot of sense.

00:02:03.580 You remember we talked now, probably weeks ago, about Philly not arresting criminals anymore.

00:02:08.900 So, Philadelphia, if you commit burglary, vandalism, if you're a pimp, if you're a fraudster, if you steal a car, if you do any of these things, you will not be arrested.

00:02:19.600 Even if the officer sees you in the act, he won't arrest you in Philadelphia right now.

00:02:24.740 So, that's pretty strange. Seems a little bit, a little bit backwards.

00:02:30.540 Now, there's a federal judge who's getting in on the jailbreak.

00:02:35.620 This is being reported by BuzzFeed News.

00:02:38.280 U.S. District Court Judge John E. Jones III is mandating the immediate release of 10 illegal aliens currently in ICE custody.

00:02:50.460 So, now you can add to the list, child rapists, vandals, burglars, car thieves, fraudsters, pimps, and now illegal aliens.

00:03:02.000 They get to roam free, but you, in the general public, have to lock yourself up in your home.

00:03:09.420 It doesn't, that's weird enough. It gets even worse.

00:03:12.580 The question of what to do with the illegal immigrants and foreign nationals who are currently in the country and who are currently detained by ICE is a strange one.

00:03:23.160 So, this guy, John E. Jones III, he was appointed by George W. Bush.

00:03:27.260 So, he was appointed by a Republican president, but don't forget, George W. Bush was in favor of amnesty and legalization of illegal aliens as just about anybody.

00:03:37.720 Uh, this, this judge said it would be barbaric to keep these 10 illegal aliens in custody during, during the pandemic.

00:03:47.960 Why? Because they've got chronic conditions.

00:03:51.340 So, they've got underlying health conditions, and if the coronavirus should make it to these jails, then there's a chance that they would suffer consequences from that.

00:04:00.680 Again, it's not even the case that it would be likely that they would die from it or that they would be seriously affected, but there's a better chance than among the general population.

00:04:11.160 So, better to release the illegal aliens into the general public. 0.98

00:04:14.800 This does raise a question for most of us who are maybe a little bit more reasonable than U.S. federal judges.

00:04:21.760 Why don't we release them back into their own countries? 1.00

00:04:25.140 Why don't we release them back to the place where the law says we're supposed to send them?

00:04:43.260 Their own countries.

00:04:44.020 Why do we release them here?

00:04:45.280 Why do we permit them and encourage them to continue breaking the law here during a pandemic?

00:04:50.460 Doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:04:51.520 We're all quarantining ourselves because walls work, because we're supposed to socially distance.

00:04:56.620 Well, how about we socially distance from the foreign nationals who break our laws? 1.00

00:05:00.880 That's a great question.

00:05:01.880 Thank you, Michael.

00:05:02.760 We'll get into why that is and how actually the criminal justice system is even more perverse during this pandemic.

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00:06:18.600 I wish that this were an April Fool's joke.

00:06:21.880 The spring in the criminals in New York, spring in the criminals in Philly, spring in the illegal aliens on the federal level. 0.57

00:06:28.220 I wish that were an April Fool's joke, but it is not.

00:06:31.240 And it raises a question.

00:06:32.800 We're going to release these 10 illegal aliens because they have underlying health conditions.

00:06:36.240 And therefore, they have a statistically higher chance of being negatively affected if coronavirus enters that jail.

00:06:43.000 Which, again, no evidence that it has or even that it will.

00:06:46.720 In New York, when they released those criminals, there was no evidence that anyone in the jail actually had coronavirus.

00:06:52.180 But it raises this question.

00:06:53.480 There are 38,000 illegal aliens currently being detained by ICE.

00:06:58.980 What do we do with them?

00:07:00.580 Ten, okay, that's a good start.

00:07:04.680 But presumably more than ten of them have some health conditions, right?

00:07:09.240 We're just going to let all of them out into the general public?

00:07:14.620 Why can't ICE be permitted to do its job and return foreign nationals to the countries that they are citizens of? 0.94

00:07:23.860 There's a real irony here that while we're all being told to hunker down in our homes and we can't leave and we can only go out for essential activities,

00:07:34.040 we can barely make it to the supermarket without a cop looking at you, funny.

00:07:37.960 While we're all being told to do that, criminals all around the country are being sprung from their jail cells.

00:07:45.340 This seems a little bit backwards, but the police are not going easy on everybody.

00:07:49.400 Okay, they're going light on the child rapists and everybody else.

00:07:53.860 But there is one group that the police are not going easy on and that would be Christian pastors.

00:08:01.240 Yes, that nefarious cabal of Christian pastors. 1.00

00:08:05.780 The cops are clamping down hard on them.

00:08:07.940 In Florida, Tampa police officers just arrested megachurch pastor Rodney Howard Brown.

00:08:14.780 That was on Monday because he refused to close his church doors the day prior.

00:08:20.260 They charged pastor Howard Brown with unlawful assembly and violating public health emergency rules.

00:08:30.180 So, unlike the child rapists, they decided they were going to take in pastor Howard Brown.

00:08:40.300 Now, luckily, like the child rapists, they allowed this pastor to leave eventually.

00:08:46.460 But unlike the child rapists, again, they forced this guy to pay a $500 bond.

00:08:51.780 So, if you are a Christian pastor holding a church service, you'll be arrested. 0.77

00:08:58.480 You have to post bond.

00:08:59.960 If, in certain areas of New York, you rape a child, no big deal.

00:09:04.640 They'll let you go to the Holiday Inn.

00:09:05.940 They actually sent these people to the Holiday Inn.

00:09:08.780 Not just Florida that's doing this.

00:09:10.540 Louisiana.

00:09:11.140 Police in central Louisiana arrested another pastor, Tony Spell, of Life Tabernacle Church.

00:09:17.140 It was the same crime.

00:09:18.600 Pastor Spell had the audacity to hold church services.

00:09:21.220 And they issued him a misdemeanor summons for six counts.

00:09:27.360 Six counts being the number of times that he has held church services since the Democratic

00:09:34.220 governor of that state ordered him not to.

00:09:37.800 Now, the act of it is outrageous enough.

00:09:41.400 But the craziest part of this story is the hysteria with which the police chief has responded.

00:09:48.520 Central police chief Roger Corcoran says that he coordinated, quote, with the sheriff,

00:09:54.740 state police, state fire marshal, and others to nab this Christian pastor.

00:10:01.640 You know, it's a wonder that he didn't call in the National Guard.

00:10:04.240 He could have called in Interpol to try to track down this pastor who told everyone exactly

00:10:10.560 where he was preaching and what he was doing for that horrible crime of spreading the gospel.

00:10:14.840 The police chief said, Mr. Spell will have his day in court.

00:10:18.520 Where he will be held responsible for his reckless and irresponsible decisions that endangered

00:10:24.680 the health of his congregation and our community.

00:10:28.420 That's how he fumed.

00:10:30.020 He was furious.

00:10:31.040 But they got him.

00:10:31.660 They got their man.

00:10:32.900 This has gone too far.

00:10:35.880 Public health crises.

00:10:37.860 Public crises in general, but specifically the ones that regard health and questions of

00:10:42.360 life and death, offer demagogues a lot of opportunity to steal more power for themselves.

00:10:49.940 That's just how it works.

00:10:51.860 Andrew Cuomo said, if what we have done saves even one life, then it was all worth it.

00:11:00.360 Of course, that line didn't make any sense because if shutting down the global economy saves one

00:11:06.260 life from coronavirus, how many lives is it going to end from suicide, despair, opioid

00:11:11.200 overdose, not being able to access normal services that you're going to access?

00:11:16.800 How many lives?

00:11:18.560 You can't, how could you even make that calculation?

00:11:21.220 But Cuomo's line makes a lot of sense if you're a politician.

00:11:23.940 If everything we've done saves just one life, then it was worth it.

00:11:27.720 Yeah, of course it is because it's a win-win for the politician.

00:11:30.700 If he saves one life, that's a good thing.

00:11:33.100 Even if he doesn't save any lives, he will leave this crisis more powerful than he started it.

00:11:39.700 That's true of all the politicians here.

00:11:41.520 They have so much more power now.

00:11:45.880 They have so much power that they're, they're just flaunting it.

00:11:49.200 When you are releasing child rapists and arresting Christian pastors, you are flaunting your power. 0.91

00:11:57.900 You know, there's a rule in medicine and in politics.

00:12:00.480 We've talked about it the last few days.

00:12:02.120 You don't want the cure to be worse than the disease.

00:12:05.980 When child rapists are walking free and pastors are behind bars, the cure is officially worse

00:12:11.800 than the disease.

00:12:13.180 That cannot go on.

00:12:14.560 Lots of demagogues here trying to take advantage of this virus.

00:12:20.260 And because they all do it in the name of public health, then we let them get away with it.

00:12:25.060 We don't even question.

00:12:26.620 But there are a lot of people trying to take advantage.

00:12:28.440 I'll give you an example.

00:12:29.200 In Washington, Ilhan Omar, Bernie Sanders, AOC.

00:12:35.240 They've now signed a letter.

00:12:36.700 They are calling for an end to American sanctions on Iran.

00:12:40.220 Iran, the largest state sponsor of terror in the world, have killed many of our soldiers 0.99

00:12:46.420 over the last couple of decades and even before that.

00:12:50.980 We have sanctions on them.

00:12:52.280 They're a terrorist regime.

00:12:53.520 They are not abiding by the rules that we've all agreed to in the international community.

00:12:59.060 They got one foot in the international community, one foot out of it. 1.00

00:13:02.160 So we have sanctions on them.

00:13:03.700 And these guys, Ilhan Omar, Bernie, and AOC, are apologists for the Mullah regime.

00:13:08.520 They love Iran.

00:13:10.200 They want to normalize relations with Iran.

00:13:12.680 So they're calling for an end to sanctions.

00:13:16.740 What does American foreign policy in Iran, dating back to the 1970s, have to do with coronavirus?

00:13:24.320 The only thing it has to do with it is that people in Iran also have coronavirus.

00:13:28.280 And that's very sad when the Iranian people have coronavirus.

00:13:31.100 Some people in the regime have coronavirus too.

00:13:33.440 That's a lot less sad.

00:13:34.260 That's, if we're talking about problems and solutions, that's a little bit of a tougher

00:13:39.880 calculation to make.

00:13:41.900 But, but these three demagogues are jumping on this.

00:13:44.920 They're saying it's so, oh, the Mullahs, the Mullahs are getting coronavirus.

00:13:48.020 We need to forgive them for killing American soldiers for decades and just let them have 1.00

00:13:52.700 a lot of money, send the pallets of cash, give them the nuclear bomb.

00:13:55.340 I don't know what, I don't know.

00:13:56.320 That's right.

00:13:57.020 They're not calling for that right now.

00:13:58.040 They're just calling for the lifting of sanctions.

00:13:59.840 It has nothing to do with it.

00:14:02.140 You know, we saw this with Nancy Pelosi held up the coronavirus relief bill because she

00:14:06.160 said we needed to, we needed to stop the airlines from polluting as much.

00:14:11.180 The hell does that have to do with coronavirus?

00:14:13.000 Nothing.

00:14:13.600 But it gives them a good opportunity to amass more power for themselves.

00:14:17.360 The Kennedy Center, speaking of Nancy Pelosi, she shoved this bit of pork into the coronavirus 1.00

00:14:22.020 relief bill.

00:14:23.160 Kennedy Center got millions and millions, tens of millions of dollars, a $25 million bailout from

00:14:29.300 the relief package.

00:14:30.520 And the whole idea was we've got to bail out the Kennedy Center so that they don't fire

00:14:34.280 their musicians.

00:14:35.100 So what did the Kennedy Center do hours after they got their money in the stimulus bill?

00:14:41.040 You can probably guess.

00:14:42.600 They fired their musicians hours later.

00:14:46.840 That's taking advantage of the crisis.

00:14:50.160 That's deceiving the American people.

00:14:52.560 That's getting all that money so they can throw more fancy parties, but firing musicians 0.67

00:14:56.060 because they don't need them right now.

00:14:58.520 They're not holding public performances.

00:15:00.400 Well, that's fine.

00:15:00.940 We don't need to give them $25 million either.

00:15:03.120 And there are people now in Washington who are trying to retroactively go back and take

00:15:08.800 that money away from them.

00:15:09.680 But it's actually not even just our political and cultural elite that are getting in on the

00:15:15.700 opportunism.

00:15:17.600 I didn't expect to be saying this, but even Whole Foods workers are trying to take advantage

00:15:24.240 of the pandemic.

00:15:25.940 Whole Foods, the grocery store.

00:15:27.920 It's like the fancy grocery store.

00:15:30.720 Whole Foods workers are going on strike.

00:15:33.460 They're not even really going on strike.

00:15:35.840 It's not like a formal strike.

00:15:37.120 They're going on a sick out.

00:15:38.300 They're all calling in sick.

00:15:40.840 And not all.

00:15:41.300 I'm sure some people are still showing up to work.

00:15:42.860 But that's what's happening right now as a matter of the labor movement at Whole Foods.

00:15:48.620 What do they want?

00:15:50.340 They want protective gear to take care of their health and the epidemic.

00:15:54.800 And they want a pay raise, a significant pay raise.

00:15:59.480 They want double their pay.

00:16:02.360 Now, part of this is reasonable.

00:16:04.420 Part of this is unreasonable.

00:16:05.300 Having protective masks when you're one of the few businesses that's still open, yeah,

00:16:10.920 I guess that's reasonable.

00:16:12.420 Totally fair.

00:16:14.000 Whole Foods workers should be able to get as many masks as they want, just like all the 1.00

00:16:18.200 grocery store workers, because grocery store workers have been pretty heroic here.

00:16:22.520 You know, they're one of the few industries that has to show up for work that's working

00:16:28.560 with this kind of craziness and panic and long lines to get in.

00:16:31.860 And everyone's buying the toilet paper and they're out there, so they're risking more exposure

00:16:36.420 to the virus.

00:16:37.340 So I'm immensely grateful to them.

00:16:39.080 You know, after health care workers, they're probably the most overworked and undervalued

00:16:42.720 people in this whole pandemic.

00:16:44.500 But that does not give them the right to take advantage of this crisis right now.

00:16:50.400 Okay.

00:16:50.960 First of all, we're looking at something like five to six million Americans who could be

00:16:55.800 unemployed within a week.

00:16:58.760 Insane numbers of, unprecedented numbers of Americans unemployed. 0.88

00:17:03.040 So if you have the opportunity to work right now, you should be grateful for it.

00:17:08.220 I don't want to sound callous and cold, but you should.

00:17:10.520 A lot of people are losing their jobs.

00:17:12.540 A lot of people would love the opportunity to work right now.

00:17:15.420 Even the people who do have their jobs are taking pay cuts.

00:17:18.380 Virtually everybody I know who is still working has taken a pay cut.

00:17:23.280 And some people have just been laid off altogether.

00:17:25.460 So if you have the opportunity to work and to keep all your pay, you're doing very well.

00:17:29.720 Okay, good thing.

00:17:31.000 Like, thank you.

00:17:31.520 You're doing a good job.

00:17:32.600 Also, you should be grateful for that opportunity.

00:17:35.280 Now is not the time for workers in any industry to be haggling for a raise, especially a raise

00:17:42.260 of 100%.

00:17:43.900 Because you, you could make the argument, well, look, they're just worried that they might

00:17:49.280 get sick. 0.82

00:17:50.040 Sure.

00:17:50.300 Yeah.

00:17:50.460 If they're going to get sick, then they should be able to get the masks, which they're getting.

00:17:55.000 They should be, or which they should be getting at least.

00:17:57.100 I think they're getting them.

00:17:58.000 They should be able to get workers' comp.

00:18:00.620 They can get that.

00:18:01.560 If they're unable to work and the workers' comp is run out, they should be able to get

00:18:05.480 a good unemployment benefit.

00:18:07.720 Well, they can.

00:18:08.680 We know that we just got a huge stimulus package through, gave people a $600 raise anyway.

00:18:13.280 So in many places, you can make more money on unemployment than you could make before

00:18:17.200 unemployment.

00:18:19.060 You get a lot of things, right?

00:18:21.060 We've actually done a fairly decent job at the federal level of taking care of workers

00:18:25.200 in all of this.

00:18:28.000 But the fear here doesn't just seem to be about health.

00:18:30.820 The fear here seems to be, it's not even a fear, it's just an opportunity to make more

00:18:35.520 money.

00:18:37.100 But while every other American is sacrificing and losing their money, that's not the time

00:18:41.860 to do it.

00:18:42.660 It raises a question, what should Whole Foods do with these employees?

00:18:45.860 And one example that comes to mind is the old gipper, Ronald Reagan, who back in the 1980s,

00:18:53.860 in a different circumstance, he had federal workers, the air traffic controllers, who went

00:18:58.460 on strike.

00:18:59.520 This was in violation of the law.

00:19:01.720 So it's different than the grocery workers who are not violating the law.

00:19:04.560 But it was in violation of the law.

00:19:06.300 And people just expected Reagan to totally give in, give in to whatever demands they had. 0.99

00:19:09.960 And instead, he fired them all.

00:19:11.780 That I must tell those who fail to report for duty this morning, they are in violation of

00:19:17.820 the law.

00:19:18.680 And if they do not report for work within 48 hours, they have forfeited their jobs and

00:19:24.860 will be terminated.

00:19:26.960 End of statement.

00:19:28.020 What lesser action can there be?

00:19:36.780 The law is very explicit.

00:19:39.120 They are violating the law.

00:19:41.520 I love Reagan.

00:19:42.800 I just love what lesser action can there be?

00:19:46.320 I'm going to fire them and they better show up to work.

00:19:50.500 Dagnabbit.

00:19:51.760 So obviously, this is not a perfect analogy here because the air traffic controllers were

00:19:57.500 federal employees.

00:19:58.760 They were not permitted to strike.

00:20:00.400 It was against the law.

00:20:01.680 And Reagan did absolutely what he should have done and fired them.

00:20:04.920 In the case of the grocery store workers, that is not the case.

00:20:07.240 They have every right to strike.

00:20:09.580 However, they might remember that we are in the midst of an unprecedented national and global

00:20:16.640 crisis.

00:20:18.080 And looking back on this, I don't think that they're going to, I don't think they're going

00:20:24.340 to want to be remembered for squeezing an extra 10 bucks or 15 bucks or whatever, you know,

00:20:30.220 based on the local regulations in different cities.

00:20:33.960 I don't think they're going to want to be remembered for squeezing a few extra dollars

00:20:38.000 out of their employer during this epidemic.

00:20:39.700 I think they'll probably want to be remembered for solidarity and showing up to work and helping

00:20:45.100 people out.

00:20:46.240 And if you want to do that, then trying to squeeze a few extra bucks is not exactly a great look.

00:20:55.660 Now, it's not only them.

00:20:58.820 It's not only Whole Foods.

00:21:01.380 It's not only AOC.

00:21:02.740 It's not only the Kennedy Center.

00:21:04.240 It's not only even elected Democrats who are trying to seize opportunity from this crisis.

00:21:11.320 Republicans can occasionally do that, too.

00:21:14.100 Never let a crisis go to waste.

00:21:15.860 President Trump showed us that yesterday.

00:21:17.840 Yesterday's press conference was probably the most information-packed press conference

00:21:22.660 that we have gotten in a number of days.

00:21:24.620 You know, I watch them every single day beginning to end, in part because they're extremely entertaining.

00:21:28.940 And I assume at this point Jim Acosta is just on the payroll because he's giving so many

00:21:34.360 opportunities for Trump to just dunk on the press, and it's very enjoyable to watch.

00:21:38.620 But sometimes they're more informative than others.

00:21:41.880 Yesterday was one of those times.

00:21:43.500 There was a lot of new information here about the pandemic, about the government response to

00:21:47.680 the pandemic, and even about a plan for what happens to get us out of this biological and 0.72

00:21:53.880 economic crisis.

00:21:55.100 Part of that is something that President Trump used to talk about a lot.

00:21:58.240 Then he stopped talking about it for a couple years.

00:22:00.600 Now it's back on the table, and that is a massive infrastructure bill.

00:22:04.800 We're anticipating that like after the economic crisis of 2008, 2009, America will need to

00:22:10.260 have so-called shovel-ready jobs ready to go to get people back to work.

00:22:14.000 Well, the problem with that one is they had maybe shovel-ready jobs, maybe not, but they

00:22:18.680 never used it for the purpose of infrastructure.

00:22:20.900 So far, nobody's been able to find any money that was spent on infrastructure.

00:22:24.120 I want to use it for infrastructure.

00:22:25.380 And one of the reasons I'm suggesting it, John, is we're paying zero interest.

00:22:29.840 The United States is paying almost zero interest rate.

00:22:33.380 The Federal Reserve lowered the rate, the Fed rate, and that and a combination of the fact

00:22:39.100 that everybody wants to be in the United States.

00:22:41.180 You know, we have a dollar that's very strong.

00:22:43.680 And I know that sounds good, but it does make it hard to manufacture and sell outside because

00:22:48.720 other currencies are falling, and our currency is very strong.

00:22:52.140 It's very, very strong.

00:22:53.500 Proportionately, it's through the roof.

00:22:56.480 So we have a strong dollar.

00:22:57.840 People want to invest in the United States, especially nowadays where they're looking at

00:23:01.420 safety.

00:23:02.400 They have all of the problems, plus the virus at 151 countries.

00:23:05.820 They all want to come into the United States. 1.00

00:23:07.420 And so we have a zero interest rate, essentially.

00:23:10.940 And I said, wouldn't this be a great time to borrow money at zero interest rate and really

00:23:16.320 build our infrastructure like we can do it?

00:23:18.460 I'm having deja vu all over again here.

00:23:21.600 This is starting to look very similar to what happened after the financial crisis in 2008.

00:23:28.280 I mean, just look at the analogy.

00:23:31.880 After the financial crisis, we saw first the Troubled Asset Relief Program, TARP, to stabilize

00:23:39.720 the economy, to stabilize the industries that were really affected, and get the system working

00:23:46.460 again.

00:23:47.080 Then you had the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, also known as the stimulus bill.

00:23:51.980 That came later, and that was to give us shovel-ready jobs and to get people working

00:23:55.880 again and to address unemployment.

00:23:57.320 Here, you're seeing a similar thing.

00:23:59.800 You have first the relief bills that went into effect just a week or two ago, massive $2.2

00:24:07.080 trillion that they, $2.1 trillion that they levered up to be about $6 trillion.

00:24:13.420 Now, you're hearing about addressing unemployment.

00:24:16.400 Now, the thing to keep in mind here is while they look very similar, right, you can see the

00:24:21.680 same structure and same process.

00:24:23.700 They really are different situations.

00:24:26.020 Why are they different?

00:24:26.560 Well, the last relief package is different than TARP because TARP was addressing industries

00:24:33.180 that had their own internal problems.

00:24:35.800 TARP was bailing out people who acted inappropriately.

00:24:39.440 TARP was bailing out financial institutions that, in many ways, dug their own grave.

00:24:44.780 That's why people hated TARP so much.

00:24:46.460 In the case of the last coronavirus stimulus bill, that's not what happened.

00:24:50.220 The people who were given relief, restaurant workers, right, small businesses, they didn't

00:24:55.080 do anything wrong.

00:24:56.180 They were told by the government to shut down, not shut down the global economy.

00:25:00.040 And so they needed some relief for that.

00:25:02.480 Those are different.

00:25:03.020 In the same way here, and Trump is making this argument, an infrastructure bill is fundamentally

00:25:09.420 different from the bailout under Barack Obama.

00:25:13.940 How is it different?

00:25:14.940 The bailout under Barack Obama, the shovel-ready jobs, weren't so shovel-ready.

00:25:18.680 They didn't work.

00:25:19.480 They didn't actually bring down the unemployment rate because they went to a bunch of nonsense.

00:25:24.520 It was a lot of cronyism in there.

00:25:27.260 It was a lot of fat that didn't actually end up employing people.

00:25:31.920 A real infrastructure bill, if we could ever manage to get that, would not be quite the

00:25:39.100 same.

00:25:40.120 Why?

00:25:40.840 Because if you're making a stimulus bill and you decide, okay, I've got a billion dollars

00:25:45.920 to play with, let's just pick a number at random, a billion dollars to play with, and

00:25:49.740 you put all that, every single penny of that billion dollars into employing people,

00:25:55.020 and you, the way you're going to employ people is you're going to give them all little sporks,

00:26:00.520 little plastic sporks, and tell them to dig holes in the ground and shovel dirt from here 0.99

00:26:06.900 to here, right?

00:26:08.540 Just, and not, you're not doing anything actually productive.

00:26:11.440 You're just kind of keeping people occupied.

00:26:13.940 That's really no different than a handout, right?

00:26:16.720 That's really no different than just writing people a check.

00:26:18.760 They're not doing any actually productive work, and that's not going to have a great effect

00:26:21.840 on the economy.

00:26:22.920 Whereas, if you were to take that same amount of money, put it into an infrastructure bill

00:26:27.620 that actually went to infrastructure that we need, you would help the economy because

00:26:32.180 we do have crumbling infrastructure in the United States.

00:26:34.280 This has been a problem now for decades.

00:26:36.320 Crumbling roads, crumbling bridges, just, just a, a shoddy infrastructure system that needs

00:26:41.840 an update.

00:26:42.220 So, if we could manage to take all of that money and employ people in actually productive

00:26:47.680 work to fix all of these things, to make our business run more efficiently, to make our

00:26:53.540 economy run more efficiently when we pull out of this, that would be a very good thing.

00:26:58.480 Is it going to turn out that way?

00:27:00.900 I'm not so sure.

00:27:01.780 We'll have to wait and see.

00:27:02.940 But regardless of how it actually would turn out, it shows us that Trump is craftier than

00:27:08.000 a lot of people give him credit for, and certainly craftier than a lot of Republicans, because

00:27:11.360 Trump is taking democratic political advice on this infrastructure bill.

00:27:16.820 He's not letting a crisis go to waste.

00:27:18.760 We'll get to how that is.

00:27:20.320 We'll get to the other important information that came out of this press conference.

00:27:24.320 We'll get to so much more.

00:27:25.900 Remember Joe Biden?

00:27:26.780 I barely even, who is that guy?

00:27:28.380 Joe, he's running for president because there's a presidential election.

00:27:30.500 That's right.

00:27:31.320 I had, I had forgotten.

00:27:32.300 Well, there's some big no's, big no, big no's, big no's, big no's on Joe Biden.

00:27:36.780 That is coming up.

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00:28:32.620 Trump is taking the democratic political advice here and not letting a crisis go to waste.

00:28:37.620 That's a very good thing because while the left is doing it to release criminals, which

00:28:42.920 they always want to do, while the left is using it to let illegal aliens run free, which 0.72

00:28:49.200 they always want to do, while the left is doing it to stuff a bunch of environmentalist

00:28:53.860 proposals into stimulus packages or try to lift sanctions on Iran or try to fill the pockets

00:28:59.220 of the people at the Kennedy Center while they lay off workers or whatever, Trump is using

00:29:03.960 it to get a bill that he's wanted for a long time that actually would be productive for

00:29:08.600 America if it were properly implemented.

00:29:11.240 And that is infrastructure.

00:29:13.540 I encourage him.

00:29:14.480 I mean, that's great.

00:29:15.180 If everybody else is taking advantage, then the right cannot unilaterally disarm.

00:29:20.440 Though ideally, we would reduce the opportunities for people to take advantage of this crisis by

00:29:25.520 phasing it out.

00:29:28.760 I'm trying to think of the most diplomatic way to put this, phasing it out.

00:29:32.640 It would seem to be that in many different sectors, we're getting to the place where

00:29:35.920 the cure is worse than the disease.

00:29:38.180 So it's time to start gearing up again.

00:29:41.220 Now, President Trump doesn't want to gear back up too quickly.

00:29:44.160 He explains why in the press conference.

00:29:46.240 His main purpose of this press conference was to prepare Americans for a terrible two weeks.

00:29:52.580 I want every American to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead.

00:29:56.280 We're going to go through a very tough two weeks.

00:29:59.760 And then hopefully, as the experts are predicting, as I think a lot of us are predicting after

00:30:05.480 having studied it so hard, we're going to start seeing some real light at the end of the tunnel.

00:30:10.460 But this is going to be a very painful, very, very painful two weeks.

00:30:14.860 When you look and see at night the kind of death that's been caused by this invisible enemy, it's incredible.

00:30:26.620 I was watching last night Governor Murphy of New Jersey say 29 people died today, meaning yesterday,

00:30:35.200 and others talking about numbers far greater.

00:30:38.100 But you get to know a state, I know New Jersey so well, and you hit 29 people and hundreds in other locations,

00:30:45.800 hundreds in other states.

00:30:48.180 And this is going to be a rough two-week period.

00:30:50.880 So there's a lot of conflicting information here.

00:30:53.740 Trump is saying it's going to be a rough two weeks.

00:30:56.100 So two weeks is the time we've got to focus on.

00:30:58.640 But then we're also hearing it's going to be another full month of lockdown.

00:31:03.020 But then we're also hearing from other people it could be more than a month.

00:31:07.480 We're even hearing this from Dr. Fauci would seem to be implying this.

00:31:11.080 So why all of the confusion here?

00:31:14.040 Fauci actually explains why.

00:31:15.800 Part of the difficulty here is that deaths lag the illness.

00:31:21.520 So, you know, the illness spreads, but people don't just die immediately.

00:31:25.400 The people who are going to die get sick, the symptoms worsen,

00:31:29.940 they go to the hospital, and eventually they die.

00:31:33.020 So you could get into a situation where the pandemic is actually getting much, much better,

00:31:39.660 even though the death numbers are increasing.

00:31:42.840 The deaths and the intensive care and the hospitalization always lag behind that early

00:31:49.960 indication that there are less new cases per day, the way we saw in Italy,

00:31:55.660 and the way we're likely seeing, I don't want to jump the gun on it,

00:31:59.340 we're seeing little inklings of this right now in New York.

00:32:03.020 So what we're going to see, and that's we've got to brace ourselves,

00:32:06.340 in the next several days to a week or so, we're going to continue to see things go up.

00:32:11.840 We cannot be discouraged by that because the mitigation is actually working and will work.

00:32:18.240 The slide that Dr. Berg showed, where you saw New York and New Jersey, and then the cluster of other areas,

00:32:27.000 our goal, which I believe we can accomplish, is to get the hotspot places, the New Yorks, the New Jersey,

00:32:35.460 and help them to get around that curve, but as importantly, to prevent those clusters of areas

00:32:42.540 that have not yet gone to that spike, to prevent them from getting that spike.

00:32:48.780 Okay. So that makes perfect sense.

00:32:51.860 But the question then becomes, they're talking about mitigation.

00:32:54.340 What is full mitigation?

00:32:58.740 The question on everybody's mind, as we're considering, is the disease, is the cure worse than the disease,

00:33:03.600 is when does this end?

00:33:06.320 Because it's got a real long tail on it.

00:33:08.360 What is full mitigation?

00:33:10.400 Do we get to, there's going to be a bad two weeks.

00:33:12.560 Do we get to stop after two weeks?

00:33:14.420 No.

00:33:14.880 The president's saying we've got to stop.

00:33:16.340 We've got to go another two weeks after that.

00:33:17.840 But you're still going to have deaths at that point.

00:33:19.780 Are we going to just reopen on April 30th?

00:33:21.840 Or is it going to be another two weeks and another two weeks?

00:33:25.160 What Dr. Fauci points at is it all relies on the models, but the models are not necessarily reliable.

00:33:33.640 100,000 is the number with full mitigation.

00:33:36.620 How do you push it?

00:33:37.840 How do you push it lower?

00:33:39.360 So, we'll go together.

00:33:41.380 We've been at this a long time.

00:33:42.620 You go first.

00:33:43.140 So, John, it's an obvious, very good question.

00:33:49.360 If this is full mitigation and it's 100,000, why am I standing here saying I want to make it better?

00:33:55.160 Because that's what the model tells you it's going to do.

00:33:58.560 What we do is that every time we get more data, you feed it back in and re-look at the model.

00:34:04.740 Is the model really telling you what's actually going on?

00:34:08.120 And again, I know my modeling colleagues are going to not be happy with me.

00:34:12.400 But models are as good as the assumptions you put into them.

00:34:16.320 And as we get more data, then you put it in and that might change.

00:34:21.360 So, even though it says, according to the model, which is a good model that we're dealing with, this is full mitigation.

00:34:28.280 As we get more data, as the weeks go by, that could be modified.

00:34:32.420 Now, I really like, actually, what Dr. Fauci said here because the short version of his answer is, yeah, we don't know.

00:34:40.240 I don't know.

00:34:40.700 How are we supposed to know?

00:34:41.820 But within that answer, what he's saying is, we're just working on models.

00:34:47.740 And the models are as good as the data that you're putting in.

00:34:51.800 And the data we have right now aren't very good.

00:34:55.580 That's how models work.

00:34:57.000 They predict, they project into the future.

00:34:59.580 But you can't know the future.

00:35:01.120 So, very often, you see this with global warming.

00:35:03.960 Global warming models have very often been wrong because they take a little bit of data and they extrapolate that data to look 50, 100 years into the future.

00:35:12.980 But if you get it just slightly off at the beginning, you end up with wild results at the end.

00:35:17.580 So, they say, well, what does full mitigation look like?

00:35:21.060 I don't know, says Dr. Fauci.

00:35:23.940 What data do you have?

00:35:25.340 It's changing every single day.

00:35:27.720 So, I think what the reporter is getting at here is, you've got full mitigation, you're going full steam ahead.

00:35:35.360 How low can we get that number?

00:35:37.220 And crucially, once we stop the mitigation efforts, is the number just going to jump right back up again?

00:35:44.940 Is there going to be a second wave?

00:35:47.820 Talk about second wave, I think you really are talking about two different things that are a little bit different.

00:35:52.260 So, for example, after the 30 days, if we get the mitigation that we hope will get us to the suppression that Dr. Birx was talking about,

00:36:04.620 there's a danger, if we don't continue to maintain that, that will we have a resurgence right within the current outbreak.

00:36:13.260 That's sort of a second wave, but it really is an exacerbation of the current wave.

00:36:18.040 So, what do we mean by maintain that after the 30 days?

00:36:24.400 See, it was hidden in there, and people aren't talking about this as much, but initially we told 15 days to stop the spread.

00:36:30.500 Then we're told it's another 30 days to stop the spread.

00:36:32.560 So, now we're at 45 days to stop the spread.

00:36:34.600 That's 3x what the federal government told us initially.

00:36:36.940 Now we're being told, if we don't maintain that after the 30 days or 45 days total, then we could see a second wave.

00:36:48.440 So, are we going to be expected to lock down after this new 30 days?

00:36:53.360 That seems to be what Dr. Fauci is employing, employing, implying.

00:36:57.980 Very few, man, I sound like Joe Biden these days.

00:36:59.660 We'll get to Joe Biden in a second.

00:37:00.680 It is going to have a major effect on how and how many people employers are employing.

00:37:08.540 At this point, I'm feeling fairly pessimistic about this whole thing, right?

00:37:13.800 It's not sounding great.

00:37:15.160 It's sounding like it's going to be a tough two weeks.

00:37:17.860 We're going to have to go through April 30th of a shutdown.

00:37:21.120 Then maybe we'll have to go even after that.

00:37:22.800 Maybe there's going to be a second wave.

00:37:24.000 And, of course, in my pessimism, in my despair, Jim Acosta swoops in to make it even worse.

00:37:31.440 Is there any fairness to the criticism that you may have lulled Americans into a false sense of security when you were saying things like it's going to go away?

00:37:39.500 Well, it is.

00:37:40.000 And that sort of thing.

00:37:40.860 Jim, it's going away.

00:37:41.860 But when you were saying it's going to go away, hopefully at the end of the month.

00:37:44.640 And if not, it hopefully will be soon after that.

00:37:47.240 But hasn't your thinking on this evolved?

00:37:50.280 It is going away.

00:37:51.200 Hasn't your thinking on this evolved?

00:37:52.960 You're taking it more seriously now.

00:37:54.980 I think from the beginning, my attitude was that we have to give this country.

00:38:00.120 I know how bad it was.

00:38:01.020 All you have to do is look at what was going on in China.

00:38:03.000 It was devastation.

00:38:05.320 And, well, yeah, look at the numbers from China.

00:38:07.360 Those initial numbers coming out from China.

00:38:10.000 But, you know, I read an article today, which was very interesting.

00:38:16.720 They say we wish President Trump would give more bad news.

00:38:21.440 Give bad news.

00:38:23.380 I'm not about bad news.

00:38:24.700 I want to give people hope.

00:38:26.140 I want to give people a feeling that we all have a chance.

00:38:30.480 Of course, this is the right attitude.

00:38:32.340 I mean, what a dumb question from Acosta.

00:38:34.160 He's asking the same question that other reporters have been badgering Trump about for weeks, which is, are you giving people a false sense of hope?

00:38:41.360 And, by the way, the real question underlying that is, hey, are you a liar? 0.53

00:38:46.260 Why are you such a liar?

00:38:47.440 And you're telling people lies.

00:38:48.560 And you're saying it's going to be okay when actually it's going to be terrible and there's going to be death and destruction all around us.

00:38:53.360 You're a liar.

00:38:54.920 A bad question.

00:38:56.820 It's Jim Acosta.

00:38:57.620 What do you expect?

00:38:59.020 And Trump gave a good answer.

00:38:59.960 He goes, look, I'm a bad hope.

00:39:00.800 We're going to get through this.

00:39:01.720 This is the one thing that actually does give me some political hope in all of this is Trump has been good so far.

00:39:08.920 He's got a good track record.

00:39:10.480 He's handled this crisis admirably.

00:39:12.980 It's a very difficult situation he's been put in.

00:39:15.440 So that does give me a little political hope.

00:39:18.600 I don't ground my hope ultimately in politics, but in so much as there is political hope, that gives me some.

00:39:25.800 But it's going to be a tough two weeks, and that's just a fact of life, and we're all going to have to deal with it.

00:39:30.120 And hopefully it won't be a tough month or month and a half or two months.

00:39:34.440 Remember Joe Biden?

00:39:36.600 Joe Biden.

00:39:37.580 Who was he?

00:39:39.380 He was the guy.

00:39:40.840 He's this guy who gives the shoulder massages, I think, right?

00:39:43.240 Yeah, that's him.

00:39:44.040 Well, nobody's talking about that one.

00:39:45.560 Joe Biden, still running for president.

00:39:47.000 I guess there's still a presidential election, even no one's talking about it.

00:39:50.640 Joe Biden is launching a podcast, and this is really brilliant.

00:39:54.600 You know, Charlie Kirk, my friend, who actually I just sat down and had a long discussion with,

00:39:59.580 and we'll play a little clip of that, and then the full thing will be out on Friday.

00:40:03.240 Charlie Kirk just tweeted this out, though.

00:40:04.940 It was a pretty interesting observation.

00:40:06.520 He goes, it's been six days since allegations of sexual assault came out against Joe Biden.

00:40:09.980 The likely Democratic nominee.

00:40:12.460 How many stories have the mainstream media run on this?

00:40:15.440 Do you want to venture a guess?

00:40:17.300 I'll give you, okay, you're right.

00:40:18.640 The guess you're thinking of, you're right.

00:40:20.400 Washington Post, zero.

00:40:21.740 New York Times, zero.

00:40:23.020 CNN, zero.

00:40:24.040 MSNBC, zero.

00:40:26.280 Do you remember Judge Justice Kavanaugh?

00:40:29.520 Do you remember Christine Blasey Ford?

00:40:31.020 Do you remember how the, do you remember Michael Avenatti?

00:40:33.060 He got a whole career peddling that trash.

00:40:34.920 All baseless allegations, and the mainstream media ran with it 24-7.

00:40:40.400 Now you've got what very likely is another baseless allegation, but it's far more credible

00:40:45.220 than the Kavanaugh allegations, against Joe Biden, and the mainstream media refuse to say

00:40:50.240 a single word about it.

00:40:51.500 So Joe Biden is releasing a podcast now.

00:40:54.080 He doesn't even have to worry about the mainstream media going after him, but he still can't

00:40:59.220 handle that because he can't remember his own name.

00:41:01.980 So even friendly interviews go very, very poorly for Joe Biden.

00:41:05.580 He can't allow himself into that venue as much anymore.

00:41:08.720 So he's launching a podcast.

00:41:10.680 This is the perfect venue for Joe Biden.

00:41:13.080 Take a little listen to the intro.

00:41:14.160 Hey, Team Biden, it's Joe, and I'm sitting here in Wilmington, Delaware, and it's a scary

00:41:20.100 time.

00:41:20.960 A lot of people out there are confused.

00:41:23.160 Things are changing every day, every hour.

00:41:25.460 So I wanted to have this conversation with you now, if I could.

00:41:29.920 Why am I doing this?

00:41:30.900 Well, first, so we can keep talking with each other, and we can't hold rallies anymore,

00:41:34.360 but we're not gathering in large public spaces.

00:41:36.920 We're living in the new normal.

00:41:38.560 But I want you to know that I'm with you, I'm on your side, and we're going to get through

00:41:42.520 this together as a country.

00:41:44.360 And the second reason is I think this podcast could offer some really helpful information.

00:41:50.200 I've seen these kinds of crises before, and I've sat in the Situation Room in the Oval

00:41:55.180 Office, and we've grappled with crises from Ebola outbreak to the Iran nuclear deal to

00:42:00.300 the auto industry rescue.

00:42:01.740 And during that time, I've been able to work with some pretty accomplished experts.

00:42:06.040 Wow, he seems so much more put together on that highly produced podcast that he himself

00:42:10.820 is releasing than he does in the debates or at his rallies or on television.

00:42:14.480 Wow, so strange.

00:42:15.240 What a coincidence.

00:42:16.960 The reason this is a great medium for Joe Biden is because Joe Biden has never had message

00:42:22.140 discipline, has never had very much political self-control.

00:42:26.360 But especially now that he's kind of losing his marbles, he's got even less of it.

00:42:30.760 So you can control the medium and control the message in podcasting.

00:42:34.440 That's why it's good for him.

00:42:35.300 And the thing that they're taking too far here is they're trying to make him sound too

00:42:40.700 good.

00:42:41.120 So you can hear, they've sped him up.

00:42:43.260 They recorded whatever they were going to record, and then they just sped it up probably

00:42:46.800 to 1.1 or maybe even a little bit higher than that.

00:42:51.080 So it's moving faster than he has ever talked in public.

00:42:54.060 The other thing is they're taking out all the breaks.

00:42:55.980 So all the stumbles, all the times he gets things wrong.

00:42:58.380 But even all the times that he breathes.

00:43:01.060 So the thing is just running so fast.

00:43:02.900 There's no air in it.

00:43:03.820 It's very clear that this was, was highly produced.

00:43:07.460 That might come back to bite Joe Biden because it's like the same reason actors mess up their

00:43:12.920 headshots.

00:43:13.720 You know, very often actors, let's say it's a totally bland, mediocre looking actor.

00:43:19.460 They'll have a headshot that's so photoshopped that the person looks like a supermodel. 0.60

00:43:24.520 And that's fine.

00:43:25.440 Maybe that gets you the audition, but then you show the headshot and they say, wait a second,

00:43:28.120 that's not you.

00:43:29.080 I don't, you don't look like that picture.

00:43:30.320 Well, it's the same thing with this podcast, Joe Biden, they're, they're making him seem

00:43:35.040 so much quicker, so much sharper, so much faster that when you hear that, not that anyone's

00:43:41.800 going to listen to the show, but if people did listen to the show, when you hear that

00:43:44.660 and then you compare that to Joe Biden in real life, you're going to say, wait a second,

00:43:49.080 this isn't the same person.

00:43:50.160 So they've got to be very careful with this, but the Biden campaign is not careful.

00:43:53.580 So it's probably not going to happen.

00:43:54.540 But I mentioned that I sat down with my friend, Charlie Kirk, while we were both in quarantine.

00:43:58.700 We did this for his podcast and it's released there on audio.

00:44:02.360 We're going to release it on video though, on Friday.

00:44:05.100 So stay tuned for that.

00:44:06.140 And here is just a short clip from our discussion because, you know, Charlie and I, we love to,

00:44:11.260 we love to debate different aspects of politics.

00:44:14.180 Somehow we're both on the same side.

00:44:15.640 We're both on the same team.

00:44:16.820 We do events together all the time.

00:44:18.720 And yet we managed to disagree about a lot of different subjects.

00:44:21.660 And one of them is the nature of political coalitions and where the right is moving into the future.

00:44:27.980 Here's just a little bit of that discussion.

00:44:35.600 I guess the question is, is the left trying, I think I know the answer, but is the left trying

00:44:42.640 to loop us all together because they don't know better or they know better and they're

00:44:47.180 doing it intentionally so they can just have domination, leftist domination basically.

00:44:51.440 You know, I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt because it's surely is convenient

00:44:56.480 and helpful to them to lump us in, you know, and everybody that to the right of Hillary Clinton

00:45:01.480 is Hitler and it makes them easier to shut us up. 0.92

00:45:03.720 So there's a real convenience to it.

00:45:05.100 But I do also think in the left's defense that they simply don't know what we believe.

00:45:10.840 You know, there was that study that came out a few years ago from John Haidt, who would

00:45:14.620 show that while the right generally understands the left, the left actually does not understand

00:45:20.240 the right.

00:45:20.980 And just anecdotally, but don't forget the pearl of anecdote is data.

00:45:24.260 You talk to a lot of leftists and they actually don't know what you believe.

00:45:29.080 They actually don't understand the arguments that you're making.

00:45:32.020 So it's obviously a little bit of both, but I will give them credit for their ignorance.

00:45:37.380 I mean, look, I think some leftists know better.

00:45:40.140 I think leftist followers don't.

00:45:41.880 And I think that the leaders do know better.

00:45:45.240 They know where the true hateful lines are drawn and they know, they know, but they don't

00:45:50.080 even police the evil in their own ranks.

00:45:52.160 In fact, they endorse and tolerate it.

00:45:53.780 I mean, Linda Sarsour, who's an anti-Semitic, anti-Western, anti- she's a Jew hater is what 0.97

00:45:58.300 she is.

00:45:58.960 She's a Jew hater. 1.00

00:46:00.120 And an America hater.

00:46:00.940 Yeah.

00:46:01.460 And I mean, exactly.

00:46:02.660 And then she just promoted to be what spokesman of the Comrade Sanders, you know, make Bolsheviks 0.80

00:46:08.320 great again, breadline advocate campaign or whatever.

00:46:10.900 Oh, she would go to the women's march and hold hands with Gloria Steinem, the great feminist. 0.97

00:46:15.340 What do the hijab and the pussy hat have in common? 0.97

00:46:17.620 Very little, except they are both opposed to our sort of traditional culture.

00:46:22.660 Yes.

00:46:22.960 And the more you study the left, the more you fight the left, like you brilliantly do.

00:46:26.540 You understand that the left is not, they're not united by truth and they're not united by

00:46:31.020 values because they left truth is not a left wing value and they actually don't have values.

00:46:36.020 They're united by hatred.

00:46:36.920 That's all they have.

00:46:37.620 That's all the left has.

00:46:38.960 And so you can find, for example, you can find what is the most, you can find what people

00:46:44.760 believe in, what their nearest and dearest values are based on what they build alliances

00:46:49.820 around.

00:46:50.560 And so we as conservatives build alliances around truth and commonality and goodness

00:46:54.740 and optimism and love of America.

00:46:56.840 Right.

00:46:57.500 But the left, they build alliances around hatred.

00:47:01.180 They, I mean, for example, you have Sarsu and Gloria Steinemann.

00:47:04.680 If you sat them in a room together and you said, what are the things that matter to you?

00:47:07.600 Most Sarsu would probably say implementation of Sharia law, the abolition of Israel and all

00:47:12.840 sorts of crazy, you know, basic, you know, fundamentalist ideas where Gloria Steinemann would say free

00:47:19.540 abortions on demand for every single woman, you know, always.

00:47:23.120 And basically, it's absolutely backward stuff. 0.95

00:47:26.940 Right.

00:47:27.100 Right.

00:47:28.440 Precisely.

00:47:28.980 And so those things are at odds.

00:47:31.100 And then you add into there the transgender stuff.

00:47:33.860 I mean, they're totally at odds with each other.

00:47:35.980 But what they have in common is that we're bad.

00:47:38.400 They have in common that the conservatives and the Americans and people that want to preserve the Western civilization, the

00:47:43.440 geochristian ethic, they want to destroy us. 1.00

00:47:45.880 They want to silence us.

00:47:47.040 They're united by their hatred.

00:47:48.580 That's what drives the left.

00:47:49.860 Right.

00:47:50.020 Well, you know, though, I will say in a word of defense in the politics of opposition, you know,

00:47:55.740 very often having a common foe does bring disparate groups together.

00:47:59.040 So, like, it's a strange thing, right, on the right, that there are people who are trad, Catholic, social

00:48:05.620 conservative guys who wear suits and ties to church every Sunday and have, like, 15 kids and they're 25 years old.

00:48:13.160 I don't even know how that's possible.

00:48:14.380 And then there are also guys who are atheist, homosexual, libertarian, you know, socially liberal, whatever.

00:48:21.200 And yet they do have a coherent coalition because the common foe right now for both of them is this woke leftist culture.

00:48:28.780 Which is trying to silence both of them.

00:48:30.980 I think the difference, though, Michael, and I anticipated that counterargument from you or for someone listening to this.

00:48:36.340 I would say the difference, though, is that person that might be totally different than the Catholic-going Latin mass ceremony attending like you,

00:48:43.980 that, you know, wears a three-piece suit and recites the rosary backwards in, you know, original Aramaic or whatever.

00:48:51.600 I got to work on my Aramaic, I guess.

00:48:53.860 Yeah.

00:48:54.400 Yeah.

00:48:54.620 That was the language that Jesus spoke.

00:48:56.500 That's true.

00:48:56.900 But the difference is that they actually have a love for America.

00:49:01.380 That's what really unites them.

00:49:02.560 And they consider the left.

00:49:03.920 If you go a level deeper, the left is the greatest threat to that love, though.

00:49:07.580 Yes.

00:49:07.900 Whereas the left doesn't have the love for the country and all they have is the hatred.

00:49:14.040 All they have is at the most elemental core of their alliances between the transgender deconstructionists and the Gloria Steinman feminists and the Linda Sarsour Islamic fundamentalists, 0.84

00:49:23.900 is that they actually don't have a commonality of what they want to exist.

00:49:29.060 The commonality between your somewhat accurate depiction that you have the atheist, you know, and the Catholic three-piece going Latin mass ceremony attending individual like yourself building a coalition,

00:49:41.200 is that if you actually break it down, they actually want an America that has markets and private property and constitutional rights.

00:49:47.140 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:47.560 Very similar.

00:49:48.100 And then they find agreement that the left is the greatest threat to those things.

00:49:51.460 Yeah.

00:49:51.780 No, I think that's absolutely right.

00:49:53.420 And it's so much, you know, it's not just us Latin mass going Catholics here.

00:49:57.260 It's also evangelicals, evangelicals being the most reliably conservative voter base.

00:50:02.340 And I know you're doing a ton of work in that area with the Falkirk Center.

00:50:06.840 And what do you see moving forward?

00:50:08.680 I mean, do you think that we're going to have a kind of Christian resurgence in America or are we going to fall apart?

00:50:14.040 We have to.

00:50:14.480 We have to.

00:50:15.280 And I have so much respect for my Catholic friends.

00:50:17.480 And, you know, I'm always kidding when I say these things, you know, and we have fun.

00:50:21.540 And I actually do have some very serious Catholic theological questions at the end of this.

00:50:25.080 All right.

00:50:25.440 Lay them on me.

00:50:25.980 I'm ready.

00:50:26.240 I would love to have you answer.

00:50:28.220 And they're Corona related.

00:50:29.700 Will I convert Charlie Kirk to Catholicism?

00:50:33.280 Probably not.

00:50:33.980 But you can listen and get the answer on Friday.

00:50:37.540 We'll release that whole exchange.

00:50:39.820 I think it was about an hour.

00:50:41.060 We cover coronavirus.

00:50:42.280 We cover the political coalitions.

00:50:43.860 We cover politics, culture and religion and everything in between.

00:50:47.280 And I always love talking to Charlie.

00:50:49.880 You know, we try to.

00:50:50.660 That guy's on a plane every three minutes pretty much.

00:50:53.760 And so now that the quarantine has happened, he is forced to stay in one place.

00:50:59.300 It's the longest time he's stayed in one place, I think in about eight years.

00:51:01.980 So he called me up afterward and said, hey, I'm actually grounded somewhere for a while.

00:51:06.160 You want to do a show?

00:51:07.400 And so go check it out on Friday.

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 01, 2020

Ep. 521 - The Criminal Injustice Of Coronavirus

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