The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 525 - Locked Down Or Locked Up?


Summary

The White House wants to hold us prisoner for another 18 months while prosecutors dish out felony charges to formerly free Americans who have the goal to go outside for a walk. The problem is, they don t have a cure for coronavirus.


Transcript

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00:00:37.700 Our exalted experts want to hold us prisoner to coronavirus for another 18 months
00:00:42.620 while prosecutors dish out felony charges to formerly free Americans who have the goal to go outside for a walk.
00:00:49.760 We will examine the junk science behind the most outrageous political power grab of our lifetime.
00:00:54.780 Then, China infiltrates a White House press briefing.
00:00:58.480 President Trump threatens to cut funding to the World Health Organization.
00:01:01.900 And Joe Biden steps up and addresses the nation about his weakness for Fig Newtons.
00:01:06.680 All that and more.
00:01:07.540 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:09.220 They want to keep us locked up forever.
00:01:20.520 That's it.
00:01:21.320 Initially, it was 15 days to stop the spread.
00:01:23.300 Then it was going to be another two weeks after that.
00:01:25.440 So, what?
00:01:26.480 No, I'm sorry.
00:01:27.160 Another 30 days after that.
00:01:28.620 So, it's going to be 45 days total.
00:01:30.520 Now, they're saying maybe another month.
00:01:31.760 Now, they're saying maybe another month.
00:01:32.840 And Zeke Emanuel, Ari Emanuel's brother, Rahm Emanuel's brother, one of the architects of Obamacare,
00:01:39.480 says that we could be locked up for another 18 months while we wait for a vaccine for the coronavirus.
00:01:47.160 You know, even the rosy numbers coming out of the White House, we hear from Larry Kudlow.
00:01:51.280 He's saying it could be another four to eight weeks.
00:01:53.740 Very different than 15 days.
00:01:56.240 45 plus eight weeks.
00:01:58.340 That's a lot of time.
00:01:59.760 But that's the rosiest number.
00:02:01.200 Now, we're hearing it could be as much as 18 months.
00:02:05.200 Here is that Obamacare architect telling us why we've got to all hunker down for a year and a half.
00:02:11.640 Realistically, COVID-19 will be here for the next 18 months or more.
00:02:16.720 We will not be able to return to normalcy until we find a vaccine or effective medications.
00:02:23.660 I know that's dreadful news to hear.
00:02:25.980 How are people supposed to find work if this goes on in some form for a year and a half?
00:02:33.060 Is all that economic pain worth trying to stop COVID-19?
00:02:37.600 The truth is, we have no choice.
00:02:40.480 If we prematurely end that physical distancing and the other measures keeping it at bay,
00:02:45.860 deaths could skyrocket into the hundreds of thousands, if not a million.
00:02:49.680 We cannot return to normal until there's a vaccine.
00:02:54.320 Conferences, concerts, sporting events, religious services, dinner in a restaurant.
00:02:59.440 None of that will resume until we find a vaccine, a treatment, or a cure.
00:03:03.880 Oh, oh, is that so, Dr. Emanuel?
00:03:06.440 Well, all right then.
00:03:07.380 In that case, respectfully, how about you go stuff it, guy?
00:03:11.340 All right?
00:03:11.960 Stop.
00:03:12.360 Stop it.
00:03:14.200 Stop telling us, based on faulty models, that we can't do anything that we want to do,
00:03:22.040 and we've got to listen to you and do exactly what you say.
00:03:25.200 If these guys had been right from the beginning, then they would have a lot of credibility now.
00:03:32.000 All right?
00:03:32.440 I'm not saying that we have to be against quarantines per se.
00:03:36.620 I'm not saying that we can't suffer economic hardship if there's an epidemic.
00:03:40.520 The trouble is, these guys have been wrong from the very beginning, okay?
00:03:46.140 And we cannot be shut down and locked up inside of our apartments under threat of prosecution for 18 months.
00:03:55.440 Just can't happen.
00:03:56.860 Why?
00:03:57.300 For four reasons, as far as I can see it.
00:03:59.440 First of all, we cannot afford it.
00:04:02.080 We were locked down for, what, two or three weeks?
00:04:05.960 And in order to deal with that, the Congress had to pass the largest stimulus measure ever.
00:04:13.000 We needed to come up with $6 trillion in relief.
00:04:18.440 Two trillion passed by Congress, another four trillion levered up by the Fed, just to get us through a few weeks.
00:04:25.600 How much money are we going to need to spend for 18 months?
00:04:31.040 We could probably buy the Green New Deal two or three times if we were to get through all of that.
00:04:36.700 Which, of course, we cannot because that's not how economies work.
00:04:39.660 And we'll have a little more on that later on.
00:04:41.960 Second reason that won't work, the models have been wrong.
00:04:45.400 And this point, I cannot harp on it enough.
00:04:47.580 We were told, time and time again, two million Americans are going to die, right?
00:04:53.340 Or more than two million Americans, maybe, from coronavirus.
00:04:56.740 We were told, even if we follow all the great measures and the social distancing and wear the masks,
00:05:01.860 we're still looking at, what, half a million?
00:05:04.740 A few hundred thousand, at least, if not half a million, if not a million.
00:05:08.520 Those were the more modest estimates.
00:05:10.400 How does that compare with reality?
00:05:11.740 Right now, at what we're being told is the peak of the virus,
00:05:16.100 more Americans died from swine flu under Barack Obama than have died so far from the coronavirus.
00:05:21.580 Now, look, that number is going to change.
00:05:23.760 Even if we are peaking and we're on the downside of the slope,
00:05:26.420 that's still a lot more misery to go through.
00:05:29.240 But right now, today, at the peak,
00:05:31.520 more people died from swine 09 than have died so far from COVID-19.
00:05:38.060 So let's say, the number right now is about 12, 13,000.
00:05:40.940 Let's say the number gets up to 30,000 or 40,000 or 50,000 or 100,000 even.
00:05:46.040 Those are numbers that are similar to the number of deaths we see each year from drug overdoses.
00:05:53.440 And who knows how the drug overdose deaths are going to be affected by this.
00:05:56.520 When there's economic collapse, guess what goes right through the roof?
00:05:59.740 Drug overdose deaths and suicides.
00:06:01.820 So the very people who sold us the bogus models are the ones telling us that we now need to remain locked up for a year and a half.
00:06:12.220 Why else can't we handle this?
00:06:14.120 Two very important reasons.
00:06:15.820 The last one is the one that nobody's talking about.
00:06:17.720 We'll get to that in a second.
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00:08:12.820 So, first two reasons that we can't remain locked down for 18 months.
00:08:17.020 We cannot afford it.
00:08:18.440 And the models have been totally wrong.
00:08:20.880 Third reason is we have medicines and treatments for coronavirus.
00:08:26.280 Zeke Emanuel said we can't reopen until we have medicine and treatment for coronavirus.
00:08:31.040 I think we do.
00:08:32.100 We have multiple medicines that are in the works, probably most notably hydroxychloroquine,
00:08:38.800 which the left, by the way, is still trying to cover up.
00:08:41.580 We'll get to that in just a little bit because the New York Times is behaving even more egregiously
00:08:46.340 than usual when it comes to this drug that has shown great promise at treating coronavirus.
00:08:51.680 So, do we have a vaccine yet?
00:08:53.440 No, but a vaccine could take 18 months.
00:08:56.340 And until we have a vaccine, we have a drug that has been shown time and time again.
00:09:00.160 So many doctors, we've played a number of them on this show, who say that that drug is working.
00:09:06.600 So, we check that box and yet this expert still wants to drag it on 18 months.
00:09:12.580 The fourth and final and most important reason that we cannot lock down for 18 months more
00:09:20.180 is that this is the most insane political power grab that we have seen in our lifetimes ever.
00:09:30.440 Okay, you want a great example of this?
00:09:32.520 I read this story yesterday out of Cincinnati.
00:09:34.280 A Hamilton County prosecutor, Joe Dieters, is now not only ordering people to stay at home.
00:09:43.800 He's now saying that if you go out, go for a walk, violate your stay at home order,
00:09:47.980 you will be arrested, you will be charged with a felony, you can, quote, sit your butt in jail,
00:09:55.180 you can sit there and kill yourself.
00:09:57.220 I don't care, but you're not going to kill my kids and you're not going to kill my neighbor's kids.
00:10:01.900 I'm done with this nonsense, so we'll see what happens.
00:10:06.140 This lunatic, who, by the way, is wrong on the facts because the coronavirus has not been shown
00:10:11.660 to infect children just about anywhere.
00:10:14.920 So, the safest people from coronavirus are children.
00:10:18.980 Complete demagoguery on his part.
00:10:21.000 But what he is saying is that if you, a free American, have the gall, the audacity to walk outside,
00:10:26.640 you will be arrested, charged with a felony.
00:10:29.380 You can sit in jail and kill yourself.
00:10:31.900 Yeah, you can go sit in jail and kill yourself because otherwise you might kill people.
00:10:35.460 Otherwise, people might die.
00:10:37.300 At the same time as government officials around the country are releasing violent criminals,
00:10:44.040 in New York, in a jail, they released child rapists because they didn't want the jails to be overcrowded.
00:10:49.560 This schmuck is arresting people, charging them with felonies, throwing them in jails for going for a walk.
00:10:58.460 He says, I told the chief to charge him with felonious assault.
00:11:02.440 I don't care.
00:11:03.560 This is going to stop.
00:11:04.500 I'm telling you, at least now, the guy is going to stop.
00:11:07.820 Now, he got even more specific because you think, okay, well, maybe people don't need to go to bars or clubs or things like that.
00:11:15.220 Not that they're open.
00:11:16.440 But surely there's got to be some exception, right?
00:11:18.680 There's got to be some exception for, say, if you go to church, right?
00:11:21.420 No, actually, Joe Dieters says, if I was the governor, I would tell these churches the first attendees at your church is going to be the National Guard
00:11:29.280 because we are stopping this right now, okay?
00:11:31.560 We're stopping it.
00:11:32.840 No one is asking you not to pray to God.
00:11:34.720 No one is asking you not to pray to Allah.
00:11:36.820 No one is asking you not to pray.
00:11:38.500 It can be done remotely.
00:11:40.020 It's not a problem.
00:11:41.580 But if it applies to these kids in over the Rhine, it should apply to those churches, too, and they need to just stop it.
00:11:46.820 So, first of all, just on a theological point, he's wrong, okay?
00:11:50.940 For certain denominations and certain religious groups, you can just do it at home.
00:11:56.180 It doesn't matter if you go to church.
00:11:57.940 For churches that recognize the sacraments, most notably the Catholic church, but Protestant denominations, too,
00:12:05.460 you do have to go to church.
00:12:08.340 You can't just do it from home forever.
00:12:10.340 It does matter that you're in person.
00:12:11.900 So, a very ignorant statement.
00:12:14.080 And not only is it ignorant of the religion, it's ignorant of our tradition of religious liberty and liberty generally.
00:12:20.940 In the United States.
00:12:23.080 This lunatic has gotten drunk with power.
00:12:27.140 Here are some examples.
00:12:28.040 He had the police arrest Rashawn Davis, this guy who decided to walk outside.
00:12:37.120 Had the police just arrest him, charge him with a felony.
00:12:40.120 It's not just big talk with this guy, Joe Dieters.
00:12:43.380 It's, it's actually happening now, too.
00:12:46.280 And you know what's true?
00:12:46.760 I looked up this guy, Joe Dieters.
00:12:48.680 He's actually had a pretty good career.
00:12:51.080 He's got mostly conservative political positions.
00:12:54.260 He's been around a long time.
00:12:56.020 Right?
00:12:56.280 It's not as though he's some deranged left winger.
00:12:58.500 However, what's so scary about this power grab is that it's corrupting even conservatives, even right-wingers.
00:13:05.540 It's corrupting people in government because they are stealing absurd, unprecedented power in many cases.
00:13:12.720 And something tells me they're not going to want to give it back quite so easily.
00:13:16.920 The point is, this shutdown is not without consequence, okay?
00:13:23.840 There are many hidden costs to the quarantine, not just to our economy, but to our government.
00:13:30.600 Not just to our government, but our way of life, to our politics, and not the least of all, to lives.
00:13:37.160 There are consequences to lives of the quarantine.
00:13:40.080 People will die because some demagogues and experts and politicians are trying to save people.
00:13:48.620 Andy Cuomo in New York, he said, if everything we do saves just one life, it will have been worth it.
00:13:56.800 Let's take a look at just one effect of this alarmism and this quarantine and this hysteria to see if it's worth it.
00:14:05.640 This story takes place in Illinois.
00:14:07.860 Illinois, there is a man living with his girlfriend.
00:14:13.700 The man is paranoid.
00:14:15.820 He's afraid that his girlfriend has the coronavirus.
00:14:20.620 So she goes, she gets tested for the coronavirus.
00:14:23.700 She comes back.
00:14:24.980 Before they get the test results, the man kills his girlfriend and kills himself.
00:14:30.800 This is according to the sheriff's office in Will County, Illinois.
00:14:34.380 Murder, suicide, because he was so afraid of getting the coronavirus.
00:14:38.800 What are the circumstances of this?
00:14:40.000 Was he afraid that she would give it to him?
00:14:42.160 Was he afraid that they would both have it and die in misery?
00:14:45.640 Was he completely ignorant of the statistics and the reality of this virus?
00:14:49.520 Maybe because it was so hyped up by demagogues in the media and in politics?
00:14:55.220 Yeah, I don't know.
00:14:55.740 Now, all I know is we got two bodies now lying on the ground because of the alarmism.
00:15:02.860 So, look, I don't do this kind of utilitarian math, but Andy Cuomo apparently does.
00:15:07.780 So you got the one life that you've saved from the coronavirus.
00:15:12.120 Now you got two body bags from the alarmism.
00:15:15.180 How do you do that calculation?
00:15:16.580 How do you make that?
00:15:18.200 If we save one life, it was all worth it.
00:15:20.420 Was it worth it?
00:15:21.360 Does Andrew Cuomo still think that it was worth it?
00:15:24.260 This is not just one random case in Illinois, or I suppose it is a random case.
00:15:30.000 It's not just a standalone though, because we know when there are economic downturns, suicide goes up.
00:15:36.900 We know, as we said earlier, drug abuse goes up.
00:15:39.580 We know that people die in these situations.
00:15:43.260 So was it worth it?
00:15:45.180 By the way, we don't even really know how many people have died from the virus.
00:15:49.880 Even the official count, we don't know.
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00:17:08.700 So, even if we were going to try to do this Andy Cuomo kind of math, where you save one life and it's all worth it,
00:17:16.780 but what about if you lose one life on the other side?
00:17:18.700 Even if we were going to do that, we don't know how many people have died from the coronavirus.
00:17:25.880 That's according to Dr. Birx yesterday at the White House.
00:17:29.780 We know that now because she told us that deaths from coronavirus are being recorded,
00:17:34.920 in her words, in the most liberal way possible.
00:17:37.500 So, in other words, if anybody dies with the coronavirus,
00:17:44.440 then they are going to be recorded as dying from the coronavirus.
00:17:49.600 So, I think in this country, we've taken a very liberal approach to mortality.
00:17:56.260 And I think the reporting here has been pretty straightforward over the last five to six weeks.
00:18:02.580 Prior to that, when there wasn't testing in January and February, that's a very different situation and unknown.
00:18:12.020 There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition,
00:18:17.140 and let's say the virus called you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem,
00:18:23.400 some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death.
00:18:32.860 Right now, we're still recording it.
00:18:35.680 And we all, I mean, the great thing about having forms that come in
00:18:39.980 and a form that has the ability to mark it as COVID-19 infection,
00:18:44.700 the intent is right now that those, if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.
00:18:53.840 All right, this makes a huge difference.
00:18:56.600 It might not seem like it does because you say,
00:18:59.040 well, look, I'm sure the COVID-19 didn't help the condition.
00:19:03.420 Sure, but it makes a huge difference.
00:19:04.820 According to the New York City data, 65.5% of New Yorkers who have died from coronavirus
00:19:10.720 had at least one pre-existing condition.
00:19:14.100 And these pre-existing conditions usually are pretty serious.
00:19:17.060 Specifically, we're talking about diabetes, lung disease, cancer, immunodeficiency, heart disease,
00:19:22.860 hypertension, asthma, kidney disease, and GI liver disease.
00:19:27.300 They had at least one of them.
00:19:30.840 Now, 65.5%, that's pretty high.
00:19:33.200 Okay, another 32.6% of New Yorkers who have died still have pre-existing conditions pending.
00:19:41.200 We don't know whether or not they had pre-existing conditions.
00:19:44.480 Do you know how many people who died of COVID-19 in New York were confirmed not to have pre-existing conditions?
00:19:51.360 1.9%.
00:19:52.880 Just 1.9%.
00:19:56.320 As of yesterday, that's 46 people.
00:20:00.620 Look, that's still scary.
00:20:01.660 Anyway, if 46 people who are otherwise healthy drop dead because of a pandemic that was started in China
00:20:08.180 that came here and took us all by surprise, that's a scary number.
00:20:12.780 But it's a very different number than if thousands of people in New York are dying from that, right?
00:20:18.720 This is not to say that some lives are more valuable than others.
00:20:22.040 This is not to say that we should throw the old and the frail off a cliff.
00:20:26.100 What this tells us, though, is how virulent the disease is and if the virulence of the disease matches what we're being told in the media.
00:20:35.080 If somebody with stage 4 pancreatic cancer who does not have a good prognosis, who's got weeks, maybe a month or two to live,
00:20:45.260 contracts coronavirus and dies in the hospital,
00:20:49.140 do we really believe that that death is caused primarily by the coronavirus?
00:20:53.780 No, of course, nobody does.
00:20:56.060 But because of the liberal way, to use Dr. Birx's terms, that the deaths are being recorded,
00:21:01.420 we will not know those numbers.
00:21:03.660 So it will, if anything, inflate the numbers, and it could inflate the numbers of coronavirus deaths pretty significantly.
00:21:10.160 Why are they doing it?
00:21:11.840 Why record the deaths this way?
00:21:13.420 We saw this kind of recording in Italy.
00:21:15.120 We haven't seen it in a lot of other places.
00:21:16.640 This method of recording the data gives a lot of cover to politicians,
00:21:24.200 gives a lot of cover to alarmists who have shut down the global economy
00:21:28.200 because 2 million Americans are going to die,
00:21:31.300 and then now it looks pretty clear that 2 million Americans are not going to die.
00:21:35.260 1 million Americans are not going to die.
00:21:36.860 The number could be significantly lower, in an order of magnitude lower or even more so.
00:21:41.000 Now, this method of recording seems to have a lot more to do with politics than it does with medical science.
00:21:49.880 It seems to me that the more good news we get about this pandemic,
00:21:54.380 the more the media wants to shut that up,
00:21:57.540 the more hysterical the media wants to become,
00:22:00.480 the more alarmist the media want to be to try to prove that they were right all along.
00:22:06.380 Best example of this is the medicine that has been treating coronavirus.
00:22:11.560 There are lots of different medicines out there that might be useful for coronavirus.
00:22:16.500 There's a lot being tested right now.
00:22:18.280 But the one that always comes to mind is hydroxychloroquine.
00:22:22.980 That is the drug that was touted by medical doctors,
00:22:28.460 by initially some in the media, by Governor Andrew Cuomo in New York,
00:22:32.100 and by President Trump.
00:22:33.560 Hydroxychloroquine has just been shown to be very effective.
00:22:35.880 And the reason it's so helpful is because it's already been approved by the FDA for malaria.
00:22:40.680 It's a drug that we have a lot of, it's cheap, we can produce quickly,
00:22:44.460 and we know that it doesn't kill you because it's been safe to use for other diseases,
00:22:51.240 like malaria, like lupus, others as well.
00:22:54.800 So the New York Times is furious about this.
00:22:58.020 Because how are they going to raise the alarm bells?
00:22:59.980 How is this going to be this massive, unprecedented, endless pandemic if we've got a medicine for it?
00:23:07.380 So the New York Times is taking every shot they can.
00:23:12.320 You know they've been going after him for hydroxychloroquine now for weeks.
00:23:16.380 They've been trying to get him to shut up about this drug.
00:23:18.320 So the headline yesterday, you have four New York Times reporters on this.
00:23:23.980 Peter Baker, Katie Rogers, David Enrich, and Maggie Haberman.
00:23:27.460 Maggie Haberman, Hillary Clinton's favorite journalist.
00:23:30.060 Headline is, Trump's aggressive advocacy of malaria drug for treating coronavirus divides medical community.
00:23:36.600 Divides them, huh?
00:23:37.480 Well, I think the doctors who want to help their patients don't seem divided on it.
00:23:40.940 They seem to be prescribing the drug.
00:23:42.960 I don't know.
00:23:43.280 Maybe they count themselves in the New York Times as part of the medical community.
00:23:46.320 Maybe they count narrative doctors or doctors of narrative medicine like the person who wrote in the New York Times yesterday.
00:23:53.500 Maybe that's who's divided on this.
00:23:55.580 But the real doctors don't seem divided.
00:23:57.480 So the article doesn't even spend too much time on the efficacy of the drug.
00:24:05.220 The real political hit job in this essay is trying to suggest that President Trump has corrupt motives for promoting the drug.
00:24:13.860 So they say some associates of Mr. Trump's have financial interests in the issue.
00:24:20.400 Sanofi's largest shareholders include Fisher Asset Management, the investment company run by Ken Fisher, a major donor to Republicans, including Mr. Trump, a spokesman for Mr. Fisher, declined to comment.
00:24:31.960 So what's notable here is they've tried to tie hydroxychloroquine to Donald Trump, but they can't do it very well.
00:24:40.060 So they say, you know, he's got a little bit of a stake in a company that has a stake in a company that has a stake in a company in hydroxychloroquine.
00:24:46.120 So they realize their better attack is going to be to go after Trump's friends.
00:24:50.500 So if Trump's friends have any investment in a company that invests in a company that ever once invested in hydroxychloroquine, then they're going to say this is corruption.
00:25:00.600 As of last year, Mr. Trump reported that his three family trusts each had investments in a Dodge and Cox mutual fund whose largest holding was in Sanofi.
00:25:12.980 Sanofi is this company that I guess produces hydroxychloroquine, except Ashley Cox, a Sanofi spokeswoman, said that the company no longer sells or distributes Plaquenil, which is the brand name of hydroxychloroquine, in the United States, although it does not sell it internationally.
00:25:28.500 So, or although it does sell it internationally.
00:25:30.240 So they're saying, okay, so Trump has some investment in a mutual fund that invests in this company, Sanofi, which used to distribute a drug called Plaquenil,
00:25:41.980 which is the brand name of hydroxychloroquine in the United States, but they don't distribute it anymore.
00:25:46.140 So basically, it's total corruption, and he's just trying to fill his pockets.
00:25:52.780 Then, they go on, they say, several generic drug makers are gearing up to produce hydroxychloroquine pills, including Amniel Pharmaceutics, whose co-founder, Shirag Patel, is a member of Trump National Golf Course, Bedminster, in New Jersey.
00:26:08.900 Oh, my goodness.
00:26:10.480 Oh, my goodness.
00:26:11.060 So, they can't really, I mean, look, anybody who has a 401k invests in some company that invests in some company that maybe has some drug.
00:26:18.860 You don't even know what's in your portfolio.
00:26:20.660 So, they know that that's not going to stick on Trump.
00:26:22.780 So, now they're saying that there are other companies that are working on this drug, which, by the way, undercuts their first argument, because the first argument is Trump's cornering the market, right?
00:26:32.880 He's going to fill his pockets with this drug.
00:26:34.180 If other companies are producing it, then he's not filling his pockets.
00:26:36.800 But the other companies are producing it, and they're saying, this is corrupt because one of the companies that's working on it has an investment by a company, by an investor, by a fund.
00:26:48.240 And one of the people who invests in this is a member of one of the Trump golf clubs.
00:26:57.660 If that is the best they've got, they need to just shut down the New York Times right now.
00:27:05.980 Look at all these words.
00:27:07.360 Look at all, look how long this article is.
00:27:10.040 Oh, my gosh, it's so long to tell you that bombshell that a member of one of Trump's golf clubs has an investment in a fund that invests in a company that isn't right now producing all the hydroxychloroquine, but maybe, maybe will eventually.
00:27:24.520 And then I looked, this was, this was even more fun.
00:27:30.640 I looked to see how much money Trump had invested, because this thing was blowing up.
00:27:36.660 Joe Scarborough tweeted about it.
00:27:38.500 Seth Abramson at Newsweek tweeted about it.
00:27:40.440 Kyle Griffin, MSNBC news producer, tweeted out this New York Times article.
00:27:45.420 Aaron Rupar from Vox.com, serious investigative journalist.
00:27:48.400 They're all tweeting about it.
00:27:49.460 By the way, even George Conway, Kellyanne Conway's husband, who is a major Trump critic, even he admitted this was pretty weak.
00:27:57.020 But you had all the hacks were tweeting about it.
00:27:59.160 So I looked, I wanted to see how much money Trump had invested in hydroxychloroquine.
00:28:03.520 Take a guess.
00:28:04.720 Donald Trump, billionaire, very wealthy man.
00:28:08.120 How much money do you think he invested in hydroxychloroquine, if you look at the percentage of his investment in the fund, in the fund, in the company, in the drug?
00:28:17.580 So Trump's investment in the company that produces hydroxychloroquine, or that doesn't currently in the United States, but used to, is at most $1,350.
00:28:32.100 That's how he's getting rich.
00:28:36.300 That's it.
00:28:37.220 He's using a pandemic to promote a company that used to promote this drug, that used to produce this drug, that's going to be used, so that he can turn his $1,350 investment into a $2,000 investment?
00:28:52.340 It gets better than that.
00:28:53.640 Because we don't know exactly how much of the company he could own.
00:28:57.440 That's the highest amount.
00:28:58.840 At the lower end, the investment could be worth as little as $90.
00:29:05.040 He's going to, that's it.
00:29:06.580 He's going to use a global pandemic to bring his $90 investment up to $120.
00:29:12.440 He's going to make a cool 30 bucks, and then he's going to treat everybody to ice cream afterwards at the White House.
00:29:18.980 It's so, so pathetic.
00:29:21.020 So that attack failed spectacularly from the New York Times.
00:29:24.360 So when that failed, the press decided to attack him for possible negative health consequences from the medicine.
00:29:30.300 And Trump did something very wise here.
00:29:33.680 He didn't just go after the media on the facts.
00:29:36.900 He went after the media on the narrative.
00:29:38.920 And that's the thing we're all going to have to do if we don't want to keep ourselves locked up for the next 18 months.
00:29:44.020 We'll get to that in a second.
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00:30:51.700 So when the media can't nail Trump for the corruption of investing $90 in hydroxychloroquine,
00:30:57.780 they are going after the health effects of hydroxychloroquine itself.
00:31:02.680 So at Trump's daily press briefing, where he's his own press secretary, they asked him about this yesterday, about the side effects,
00:31:10.100 about how we shouldn't be so quick to administer this drug to dying patients.
00:31:17.420 Here is the reporter.
00:31:18.440 With millions of pills of hydroxychloroquine donated, is there a plan or system in place to track the potential side effects?
00:31:30.200 Well, you saw the representative.
00:31:31.860 Is there a plan to track the side effects?
00:31:34.660 The side effects.
00:31:35.440 The side effects are the least of it.
00:31:37.100 You have people dying all over the place.
00:31:38.680 So you know that this is already going to be some unfair questioning because she gets the question out.
00:31:43.820 Hey, are you guys tracking the side effects of this drug?
00:31:46.140 And then President Trump starts to answer and she keeps interrupting him.
00:31:48.860 And the side effects and the side effects and there are going to be all these side effects.
00:31:53.160 Because they're so upset, they're so crestfallen that the drug is working.
00:31:57.740 They're so upset that people are getting better.
00:31:59.460 Because then it can't be Trump's fault and Trump can't be responsible for killing a million people.
00:32:04.000 Drats.
00:32:05.080 Ah, they were sure they were going to get him this time.
00:32:07.460 The Russia thing didn't work and the taxes didn't work and the Ukraine thing.
00:32:11.180 Remember that?
00:32:11.600 They impeached him over Ukraine in a phone call.
00:32:13.300 That didn't work.
00:32:14.020 But they're going to get him.
00:32:14.600 He's going to kill a million people.
00:32:15.620 Then we'll really get him.
00:32:16.940 Drats foiled again because he's promoting a drug that's working.
00:32:20.020 So now all they've got left is they say, what about the side effects?
00:32:25.040 And President Trump gives what I think is the perfect answer to it.
00:32:28.020 He gives the answer not merely in scientific and medical terms, but in narrative terms.
00:32:35.180 A woman last night, I watched her on one of the shows, good show, Laura.
00:32:40.180 And she was, she thought she was dead.
00:32:44.340 She was a representative from Michigan.
00:32:48.600 She was just in horrible shape for 12 days, 14 days.
00:32:54.360 She thought she was dead.
00:32:55.220 And I think she said that her doctor said she's, you know, it's going to be very tough.
00:32:59.740 She saw me talking about this and she asked her husband to go to the drugstore.
00:33:04.020 Now, this is a Democrat representative, a person that, you know, perhaps wouldn't be voting for me.
00:33:10.480 I think she'll be voting for me now, even if she's a Democrat, even if she's a Democrat representative.
00:33:16.940 He gave it to her.
00:33:18.100 Now, you know, it's, it's, I don't say it works like this at all.
00:33:22.460 Four hours later, she awoke and she said, I feel better.
00:33:28.380 And then shortly thereafter, she felt great.
00:33:31.320 This is a woman that thought she was going to die.
00:33:32.940 Her manner of speaking, her, the way she told the story was beautiful.
00:33:37.920 I asked my husband to go and get it.
00:33:39.640 He got it.
00:33:40.560 She is now okay.
00:33:43.540 So he goes on, but I think you get the point.
00:33:47.160 President Trump is flipping the left's narrative on them.
00:33:51.520 The left's narrative this whole time from Andy Cuomo to Zeke Emanuel,
00:33:55.640 to the experts, to the media, to the politicians.
00:33:59.500 If you oppose them, you want people to die.
00:34:04.160 That's what they're saying.
00:34:05.080 If you, if you even so much as question what they're doing, you want people to die.
00:34:10.180 If you oppose shutting down the global economy, you want people to die.
00:34:14.200 If you oppose arresting people for leaving their homes, you want people to die.
00:34:20.480 Now they've gone even further.
00:34:21.820 They say, if you support giving people access to the medicine that'll save their lives,
00:34:24.960 you want people to die because of hypothetical side effects or something that don't even exist.
00:34:31.320 I was, and, or New York Times, right?
00:34:33.420 Just yesterday was talking about how, if you support giving people this medicine,
00:34:37.780 you want other people to die because there is a hypothetical shortage of the medicine
00:34:42.420 for people who have lupus, even though there's no evidence of that shortage at all.
00:34:46.880 None of that is true, but that is the narrative they're pushing out.
00:34:49.320 So Donald Trump, master of narrative, flips the narrative on its head.
00:34:53.000 He says, if you oppose giving people this drug, then you want people to die.
00:34:58.860 And he picked probably the perfect character to destroy the left-wing's narrative here
00:35:05.800 because we're talking about a democratic politician.
00:35:10.000 This was a democratic representative who was on death's door and then takes the drug and now is all better.
00:35:17.440 Not just a democratic representative, a woman, not just a democratic woman, a democratic black woman.
00:35:24.480 I mean, it checks every intersectional box that the left talks about all the time with identity politics.
00:35:29.880 So now Trump is saying, if you oppose giving people this medicine,
00:35:33.500 you want a black female democratic politician to die.
00:35:38.600 And I won't let that happen, not on my watch.
00:35:40.720 This is the right attitude.
00:35:43.740 This is how we've got to start speaking.
00:35:46.080 We like to play by all the proper rules.
00:35:50.360 Marques of Queensbury rules.
00:35:52.680 Totally fair, above board, no punches below the belt.
00:35:56.000 The left punches below the belt.
00:35:58.440 The left demagogues.
00:35:59.840 The left emotionally manipulates.
00:36:01.200 Now, we should be better than the left.
00:36:04.880 But we've got to be able to counter their narratives as well.
00:36:07.800 Trump showed us a great way how to do that.
00:36:10.140 He was pretty brutal in this press briefing all around.
00:36:12.340 This is one of the hallmarks of it.
00:36:13.760 You see these motifs coming back in all the press briefings.
00:36:17.620 He'll talk about the cure and the drug and giving people some hope.
00:36:21.720 He'll talk about how serious it is so we can't just reopen tomorrow.
00:36:25.700 He'll then humiliate one reporter.
00:36:27.620 He humiliates one reporter every single day.
00:36:29.380 And yesterday, that reporter was a young man who asked about how this is all affecting
00:36:36.520 the price of oil and what our energy response is going to be to this.
00:36:39.860 So the kid barely gets his question out before President Trump corners him and asks him a
00:36:45.560 simple question, a question, unfortunately, that he couldn't answer.
00:36:48.960 What's the price of oil?
00:36:50.480 Hey, I'm just checking on oil again today.
00:36:52.780 I was wondering.
00:36:53.200 Oil?
00:36:53.580 Yeah.
00:36:53.920 Where is it today?
00:36:54.940 Well, I was wondering if you.
00:36:57.020 No, no.
00:36:57.280 Where's the price?
00:36:57.900 Give me the price.
00:36:58.440 Uh, I'm not sure, to be honest.
00:37:00.800 How can you ask a question when you don't know the price?
00:37:03.860 I'll look it up for you.
00:37:04.800 Okay, let me do somebody else's.
00:37:06.080 Go ahead.
00:37:07.240 Oh, that's so brutal.
00:37:09.240 That is so humiliating.
00:37:11.680 I don't even know.
00:37:12.680 I don't know who that reporter is.
00:37:13.960 He might be a perfectly nice guy.
00:37:15.940 He might have just been having a bad day.
00:37:17.620 And he, he made the unlucky mistake of not preparing for that one part of the question.
00:37:25.440 Trump has got to keep this up.
00:37:27.360 This was great.
00:37:30.020 Because, look, I don't, again, I don't want to be unfair to this reporter.
00:37:34.840 He might have just not looked up the number beforehand.
00:37:37.220 And he should have known.
00:37:38.500 If he says, I want to, I was just checking on oil and I want to ask you about oil.
00:37:41.440 And Trump said, okay, well, what's the price?
00:37:43.140 It's pretty important information if you want me to give you my answer on oil.
00:37:46.620 And he says, oh, I don't know.
00:37:49.120 He's got to keep the reporters on their toes.
00:37:50.940 First, it puts the reporters on the defensive.
00:37:54.640 And it discourages unfair questions.
00:37:56.840 If the reporters know that he's going to grill them, then they're not going to be so loose
00:38:02.500 with their questions.
00:38:03.520 You know, it's actually the same justification that we have for having the reporters in the
00:38:06.740 first place.
00:38:07.360 We have reporters ask tough questions so that we keep the politicians on their toes.
00:38:11.340 But the politicians need to be tough too.
00:38:13.780 Otherwise, the reporters are going to take advantage.
00:38:16.440 That's the first reason.
00:38:17.540 Second reason is it shows to everybody out here that contrary to the media narrative,
00:38:26.840 President Trump actually knows a lot more about what's going on than all these media people
00:38:32.900 who are condescending to him and who are criticizing him and who are mocking him.
00:38:37.820 What this shows, when it's just him and the reporters, unvarnished, live TV, it shows that
00:38:44.460 Trump knows a lot more than our self-appointed elites in the mainstream media do.
00:38:50.940 You don't get that when you just watch pre-recorded left-wing cable news.
00:38:55.220 You don't get that when you just read the New York Times.
00:38:57.640 But live, unvarnished on TV, you do see that.
00:39:01.380 And it's why it's important for Donald Trump to humiliate these reporters on occasion.
00:39:05.320 He's got to do it fairly, and this was a fair way to do it.
00:39:08.000 But the press comes out there every day and tries to unfairly humiliate Trump.
00:39:11.900 And so Trump's got to give it back to them, and then the people can decide.
00:39:14.740 There was some news that came out of the briefing yesterday, beyond Dr. Birx, who said that
00:39:21.700 we're going to be recording these deaths in a way that's going to compromise our data,
00:39:26.700 beyond these other questions that came up.
00:39:29.760 The most important news that President Trump broke is that the United States is planning
00:39:35.140 on defunding the World Health Organization.
00:39:38.440 The WHO, that's the World Health Organization, receives vast amounts of money from the United
00:39:46.520 States.
00:39:49.500 And we pay for a majority, the biggest portion of their money.
00:39:55.380 And they actually criticized and disagreed with my travel ban at the time I did it.
00:40:01.240 And they were wrong.
00:40:02.840 They've been wrong about a lot of things.
00:40:05.360 And they had a lot of information early, and they didn't want to do very — they seemed
00:40:09.460 to be very China-centric.
00:40:12.680 And we have to look into that.
00:40:14.360 So we're going to look into it.
00:40:15.380 We pay for — we give a majority of the money that they get.
00:40:19.060 They called it wrong.
00:40:20.400 They called it wrong.
00:40:22.020 They really — they missed the call.
00:40:24.680 They could have called it months earlier.
00:40:26.340 They would have known.
00:40:28.000 And they should have known.
00:40:30.120 And they probably did know.
00:40:31.640 So we'll be looking into that very carefully.
00:40:34.660 And we're going to put a hold on money spent to the WHO.
00:40:39.900 We're going to put a very powerful hold on it.
00:40:41.700 And we're going to see.
00:40:43.140 Love that.
00:40:44.160 Great idea.
00:40:45.360 Should have done it a long time ago.
00:40:46.800 The World Health Organization, the WHO, is a mouthpiece for the Chinese communist government.
00:40:54.080 And has been for some time now.
00:40:55.580 I mean, I mean, I mean, this is not a conspiracy.
00:40:57.560 This is — you can look exactly to the dates when they appointed their own lackey to run
00:41:02.780 the WHO.
00:41:03.860 The guy who runs the WHO is a politician.
00:41:06.000 And it's a communist politician that was specifically requested by the Chinese government.
00:41:11.540 And as payback for that, this guy has been carrying water for them.
00:41:15.440 Totally ignored the warning signs of the pandemic.
00:41:17.420 Didn't even send experts over there until February, despite the outbreak happening in China,
00:41:22.160 possibly as early as October.
00:41:23.900 And who knows?
00:41:24.420 As we might find out, it was even earlier than that.
00:41:27.780 WHO.
00:41:28.960 Actually, the most intense, passionate campaign they've waged during this whole pandemic was
00:41:34.380 to get President Trump and other people to stop calling it the Chinese coronavirus because
00:41:39.440 they wanted to hide China's culpability in all of this.
00:41:42.520 An egregious organization that has not only failed, but has really carried propaganda for
00:41:48.620 some of the worst people on earth.
00:41:49.820 And they shouldn't get a penny of our money.
00:41:51.000 Speaking of China, China infiltrated a White House press briefing.
00:41:55.160 A reporter, this was not yesterday's briefing, but the day before, a reporter kept pestering
00:42:00.840 Trump with questions about China and all the good that China's doing and how China's helping
00:42:04.360 out and why won't he keep working with China.
00:42:07.160 And so President Trump just flat out asked this person, said, what outlet are you with?
00:42:11.020 Are you with an outlet that is with the Chinese government?
00:42:14.220 And Trump was absolutely pilloried for this in the mainstream media as a racist, as a
00:42:20.340 xenophobe, as a bigot, all the usual stuff.
00:42:22.680 Here's the exchange.
00:42:23.860 I hope they're going to honor the deal.
00:42:25.420 We'll find out.
00:42:25.720 With China?
00:42:26.400 Are you cooperating with China?
00:42:27.980 Who are you working for?
00:42:28.880 China?
00:42:29.920 You work for China?
00:42:30.920 Are you with a newspaper?
00:42:31.820 Who are you with?
00:42:32.660 Hong Kong Phoenix TV.
00:42:34.480 Who owns that?
00:42:35.160 China?
00:42:36.400 Is it owned by China?
00:42:37.860 No, is it owned by the state?
00:42:39.340 No, it's not.
00:42:40.000 It's a private owned company.
00:42:41.600 Okay, good.
00:42:42.180 Okay, good.
00:42:44.000 And you can hear in Trump's voice, he doesn't quite believe it.
00:42:45.840 So the press, they say, how racist.
00:42:48.100 Just because this woman looks Chinese and sounds Chinese, you're asking if she's working
00:42:55.440 for the Chinese government?
00:42:56.880 Of course, that's not why he was asking.
00:42:58.320 He was asking because it sure sounded like she was asking questions that were nice to
00:43:03.920 China, right?
00:43:05.840 I don't think he was doing it because of how she looked or sounded.
00:43:08.040 I think he was doing it, not primarily at least, I think he was doing it primarily because
00:43:12.100 she was asking questions that any Chinese propagandist would ask.
00:43:17.360 So then she says, no, I'm, I'm with an independent outlet, the Phoenix.
00:43:23.560 So, and you Google that outlet and it turns out she lied.
00:43:28.520 Actually, she is working for the Chinese government.
00:43:31.080 Actually, the Chinese government owns a lot of that news operation.
00:43:35.080 And it turns out Donald Trump was totally right.
00:43:38.240 And he was right to ask the question.
00:43:39.800 He was right in his suspicion.
00:43:41.500 And a Chinese propagandist infiltrated the White House press briefing, which, look, these
00:43:45.340 things happen.
00:43:46.640 All right, governments do use the press.
00:43:49.840 Subversive left-wing governments use the press.
00:43:51.580 I mean, you know, our own subversive left-wing politicians use the press here, even here in
00:43:55.620 the United States.
00:43:56.380 So this kind of thing happens before.
00:43:58.760 However, Trump was right about this.
00:44:01.660 This is something we've got to watch.
00:44:03.000 And the knee-jerk reaction to say that everything Trump does is wrong and bigoted and terrible,
00:44:07.140 even for members of our own press, is a pretty egregious thing in the face of a pandemic that
00:44:11.540 was caused by the Chinese government.
00:44:14.620 And yet they're defending the Chinese propagandists in the briefing room.
00:44:18.600 So President Trump talked about a few other things in these briefings.
00:44:22.640 He mentioned yesterday that he spoke to Joe Biden.
00:44:25.400 And one thing I really liked about this is Joe Biden wanted to have a phone call with
00:44:28.840 Trump.
00:44:29.360 And I said on the show a few days ago, I liked how Trump handled it.
00:44:32.160 He said, OK, I'll have a phone call.
00:44:34.540 It wasn't, I can't talk to him.
00:44:36.160 What can he offer me?
00:44:36.920 It wasn't hostile.
00:44:37.740 It wasn't, he was very gracious about it.
00:44:40.180 He said, yeah, I'll take a phone call.
00:44:41.600 Then they had the phone call.
00:44:42.520 He was asked how the phone call was.
00:44:43.440 He said, yeah, it was fine.
00:44:44.020 It was nice.
00:44:44.900 Had a nice call for about 15 minutes.
00:44:46.540 That was it.
00:44:47.520 Brushes it off and moves on.
00:44:48.600 It keeps him so elevated.
00:44:50.360 And it keeps Joe looking so small.
00:44:52.320 Because we were all wondering, what's Joe going to offer on this phone call?
00:44:56.620 Joe can't remember his own name.
00:44:58.300 What's he going to do?
00:44:58.800 He's going to solve the pandemic that Trump is already doing a pretty good job of solving?
00:45:02.900 And so I think Trump intuited that too.
00:45:04.740 He said, OK, what do you got, Joe?
00:45:06.600 Joe had nothing.
00:45:07.760 So the call was absolutely nothing.
00:45:09.400 Actually, we just found out what Joe's got.
00:45:11.760 Because while Trump is solving this unprecedented global pandemic,
00:45:16.560 or certainly unprecedented in recent memory,
00:45:19.740 I guess the Spanish flu is pretty bad too.
00:45:22.480 But you're not allowed to compare this to the flu anyway.
00:45:24.360 So let's call it unprecedented.
00:45:26.000 Well, while President Trump is doing that,
00:45:28.120 Joe Biden is quarantined at home, forgetting his own name,
00:45:31.640 and putting out a podcast.
00:45:33.380 Because it's the only medium that he can work in, right?
00:45:36.260 It's a medium where he can have his voice sped up.
00:45:39.380 He can be edited.
00:45:40.640 Actually, I think they've slowed down the edit
00:45:42.760 since I pointed out how ridiculous it sounded.
00:45:45.540 So I'll take a little bit of credit for that.
00:45:46.920 But they've slowed it down just a little bit.
00:45:49.440 But they can clean him up.
00:45:50.440 They can take out all the weird stuff.
00:45:52.940 And yet, the best that Joe Biden can muster,
00:45:54.980 this is the actual trailer put out by the Biden campaign,
00:45:58.480 the best he can muster in this time of crisis
00:46:01.060 is to talk about how much he loves Fig Newton cookies.
00:46:05.760 Are Fig Newtons your favorite snack?
00:46:09.100 Well, they're among the favorite.
00:46:11.280 You know why?
00:46:12.020 They're small and I can sneak them.
00:46:13.760 And, you know, you can buy little packs of them
00:46:16.400 and I get them on the planes when I fly back and forth.
00:46:20.520 But the thing that is, the thing that everybody makes fun of me,
00:46:23.800 that when in doubt, I have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
00:46:27.260 But I learned everybody was making fun of that.
00:46:29.220 And I found out John Kerry has the same addiction,
00:46:31.800 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
00:46:34.780 Peanut butter and jelly sandwich is always good.
00:46:37.280 But my daughter and I enjoyed it when you were in Michigan
00:46:39.560 and you shared your Fig Newtons a little mess.
00:46:41.980 Oh, that's right.
00:46:42.680 I had some then.
00:46:43.440 I remember that.
00:46:44.580 I always have little packs of them with me.
00:46:47.940 This is riveting stuff.
00:46:50.020 I'm sorry.
00:46:50.880 I'm just on the edge of my seat right now.
00:46:52.640 I don't even know how I can go on with the show
00:46:54.320 after that bombshell that Joe Biden likes
00:46:56.700 not only Fig Newton cookies,
00:46:58.020 but also peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
00:47:01.600 I didn't click that out.
00:47:03.520 That's the trailer that the Biden campaign used.
00:47:06.220 That's their best stuff.
00:47:09.060 I don't think that we want that guy to become the president.
00:47:12.300 I don't think that we want to give that guy a lot of power.
00:47:15.960 I don't think that we need to tolerate
00:47:18.640 the largest political power grab in our lifetimes
00:47:22.160 if the man who's going to wield that power
00:47:24.540 barely knows what planet he's on
00:47:26.820 and the most important and incisive commentary he can muster
00:47:33.120 is his favorite cookie.
00:47:34.840 Not a good place to be.
00:47:36.400 Fortunately, President Trump is doing a good job.
00:47:38.440 I hope he continues to do a good job
00:47:39.840 and pushes that timeline of reopening up,
00:47:42.300 not at the absolutely unacceptable 18 months,
00:47:45.100 but even closer, not eight weeks, not even four weeks.
00:47:49.380 We need to get this thing going again.
00:47:52.760 We've seen a lot of promise on the medical front,
00:47:55.400 on the modeling front,
00:47:56.440 as those alarmist models have fallen apart.
00:48:00.300 We need to get moving again.
00:48:02.000 It's time to do that.
00:48:03.140 We can weather this storm.
00:48:04.940 The president might even come out of this looking better,
00:48:07.500 but time is running out,
00:48:09.200 and you don't want to be in a situation
00:48:10.960 where we're stuck with President Fig Newton.
00:48:14.260 Okay, that's our show.
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