Ep. 541 - The Scientist Has No Clothes
Summary
The scientist whose disproven doomsday model destroyed the global economy has resigned from his position after it came out that he broke his own lockdown order to sleep with his married mistress. All of which brings up a question: Why should we be expected to listen to scientists when the scientists don t even listen to themselves?
Transcript
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The scientist whose disproven doomsday model destroyed the global economy has resigned from his position after it came out that he broke his own lockdown order to sleep with his married mistress.
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Why should we be expected to listen to scientists when the scientists don't even listen to themselves?
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A salon owner in Texas tells a power-hungry judge to pound sand.
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All that and more. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Oh, the scientists, how they reveal themselves, sometimes metaphorically, sometimes literally, apparently, to their married mistresses.
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All of this as governors around the country are urging more caution, more heed, more fear.
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Even as some of the states are reopening, we'll see the effects of some of that in a little bit.
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Even as they're saying that, they're saying you have to follow the rules, you have to do exactly what we say.
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The governor of West Virginia came out and used even more colorful language than that.
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Again, I encourage all businesses that are allowed to open to do so only if they f***ing follow the guidelines to keep West Virginia safe.
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So, I don't know that we actually even had to bleep that, because at first I couldn't tell, look, West Virginia, that's a pretty serious place.
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You know, that's a pretty direct, tell you like I see it, you know, kind of American state.
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I think what he was actually trying to say was, on his sheet of paper, it said, if you follow the guidelines.
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But then he saw the word can, so it was if you can follow the guidelines, and the way it came out, obviously, we have to bleep it if we're going to play it on this show.
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We're going to open up if you follow the guidelines.
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Unfortunately, most of the people who are urging us to do exactly what they say are not doing it in this tongue-in-cheek or accidental sort of way.
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And the chief among them, the chief offender of this, is Neil Ferguson.
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This name, it probably isn't going to go in the history books, because he's probably going to be written out of the history, but he should.
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Because this is the guy, more than anybody, responsible for the global economic shutdown.
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This is the guy who came up with the infamous Imperial College model that predicted 2.2 million deaths or more, you know, in the United States from coronavirus.
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So, Neil Ferguson says, if you guys pursue herd immunity, if you guys let the virus run rampant, you don't shut down your businesses, then you're going to have millions and millions of deaths on your hands.
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All the governments of the world, including the UK, where he lives, shut down.
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Then, turns out, Neil Ferguson didn't follow his own lockdown order.
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Neil Ferguson, on at least two separate occasions, this is a 51-year-old scientist, broke the lockdown order so that his 38-year-old married lover could leave her home,
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travel all the way across London, travel all the way across London, and have a fun time, have a little lockdown and chill with the government scientist.
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This is right after Neil Ferguson got finished self-isolating for two weeks for testing positive for coronavirus.
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So, it wasn't even out of an abundance of caution.
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You know, I met a guy who met a guy who met a guy who had coronavirus and so I'm going to stay home.
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The guy was self-isolating after testing positive.
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Okay, and as we're seeing more and more scientists and the politicians who are using the scientists being exposed for getting this virus so wrong,
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I love Neil Ferguson's excuse, which we'll get to in a second, but it's not just Neil Ferguson, it's other scientists, it's media personalities, it's governors, it's everybody colluding together to try to cover up for this terrible damage that they've brought.
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Neil Ferguson accepts responsibility for violating his own order.
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I accept I made an error of judgment and took the wrong course of action.
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I have therefore stepped back from my involvement in the government's scientific advisory group for emergencies.
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I acted in the belief that I was immune, having tested positive for coronavirus,
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and completely isolated myself for almost two weeks after developing symptoms.
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You see, it's not a full apology because he's making excuses.
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It's not actually a big deal, but it's a political issue.
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And you pesky people with your politics keep getting involved in my science.
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I deeply regret any undermining of the clear messages around the continued need for social distancing to control this devastating epidemic.
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The government guidance is unequivocal and is there to protect all of us.
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Oh, if I have to hear the phrase social distancing again, once this pandemic is over,
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I never want those two words to be next to each other.
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We're just, we're all repeating these phrases like we're robots.
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Well, clearly Neil Ferguson doesn't believe that because he violated it, which is fine.
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Okay, admit that you don't think the government guidance is mandatory, necessary for everybody.
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Admit that much of the science behind this whole response, this whole government reaction, was bunk, was bogus.
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I don't mind that some scientific expert got things wrong.
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I don't mind that the government got things wrong.
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What I really mind is being gaslit about this whole thing and being told to repeat platitudes
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and being told to repeat scientific certainties that turn out to be not so certain.
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Another hypocrite on all of this, another guy who clearly doesn't believe what he's saying
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Chris Cuomo, brother of Andy Cuomo, governor of New York,
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one of the most famous politicians during the pandemic telling people to lock down.
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Now that finally people are starting to push back a little bit, starting to open up,
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I pulled out the most coherent parts to try to get to his argument.
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But you can see increasingly desperate telling people to stay at home.
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It's my first day back in the office in more than a month.
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So many of you were so good to me, both in my family and to my family.
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I will spend my time in this capacity trying to justify the faith that so many of you have put in me.
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I'm worried that so many seem to think it's mostly over for all of us.
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Two weeks ago, the president said we would have 60,000 deaths, period.
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Now, his administration is reportedly privately projecting there are going to be 9-11-like death tolls on a daily basis by early June.
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Now, look, no one has accused this president of being fact-focused or even read in on any of this.
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You, Chris Cuomo specifically, not even just CNN.
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You don't need Donald Trump to deceive you because I, Chris Cuomo, will deceive you.
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Do you remember, what was it, a week ago, two weeks ago?
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Chris Cuomo pretended for a month to be isolated and quarantined in his basement of his house because he was diagnosed with coronavirus.
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And then they filmed this big segment on CNN where Chris was walking up the stairs for the first time and he sees his wife and his kids.
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He said, oh, this is what I've been waiting for.
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Oh, I've just been waiting for this to see my beloved family for the first time in a month.
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And then it turns out he had been violating the order the whole time because he got into an altercation on the street, outside, walking with his family with a 65-year-old guy on a bicycle who said, wait a second, you're the CNN guy.
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Your brother is ordering all of the quarantines.
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This guy was not taking the advice that he was giving you because there's one set of rules for the scientists.
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There's one set of rules for the media personalities.
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And then there's another set of rules for you peasants.
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Okay, look, it doesn't really matter if Chris Cuomo stays in his basement for four weeks.
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Look, his family probably already was exposed to it anyway.
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But you, you peasant, you dirty person, you nothing, you pleb, you can't go outside because then that might threaten public health.
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But everyone else, all the elites get to do it because, like, look, they're really clean and meticulous.
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Don't pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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Unless the virus just completely stops, unless all time comes to a standstill, there will be more cases tomorrow than the day before, right?
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But that's not the number that we're looking at.
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We want to look at how, first of all, deaths obviously lag infection rates, but how deaths are moving, how infection rates are moving.
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That's why even some liberal governors are beginning to reopen because we have no other choice.
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He gets more desperate the more the rant goes on.
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We are rushing to get back out of want, not just out of need.
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Beautiful weather does not make for a beautiful reality.
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The government is not doing things it should be.
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The relaxing of stay home orders doesn't mean COVID isn't a problem anymore.
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I'm going to repeat a lot of things because it's not getting through.
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That's why you're castigating all of those fools who are going outside.
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He has the audacity to call them fools, even though he himself did the very same thing.
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By the way, when the pandemic was far worse, when it was raging far more than it is right now.
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Did any of you succeed at deciphering exactly what he was saying?
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He just has these snippets of ideas and then they kind of go away.
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And then he realizes he's kind of retreading old ground, but maybe not quite.
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But the reason he's repeating himself is because his argument is very confused.
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And his argument is very confused because he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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He tried to make the argument for weeks that we all have to lock down.
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And then more evidence that that didn't happen beyond just the numbers is Chris Cuomo wasn't
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believing it himself at the time and he went outside.
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But still, for some reason, he doesn't want anything to reopen.
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Maybe that's why some of these Democratic politicians are so keen on keeping the economy depressed.
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And then he's got to keep making that argument.
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But he can't keep making that argument because the evidence is all around us.
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Chris Cuomo, I'm not giving him any more of my show time.
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And he tries to convince people, by the end of the argument, he tries to convince people
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He says at the end, he goes, think about, look, if you, if we reopen, think about what
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What, you want to, you want to go back to like restaurants and seeing your loved ones
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and walking outside in the park and on the beach and going to work and earning a paycheck
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Your family's going to starve, but you get to spend time with them.
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And that's, they've gotten so desperate that now they're making the argument, what, you
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Why, why not just live in your little pod for the rest of your life and plug Tiger King into
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your head and just consume trash media, including CNN until, until the end of your days?
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This is the argument the left has been making for years now.
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Can't you just work and go to sleep and not, not really bother anything and let me enjoy
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And the irony, of course, whether it's, it's often the environmental left making this, whether
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it's Leonardo DiCaprio or, or anyone else, it's people who fly on private jets.
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It's people like Al Gore, who has a giant home that, that could power many, many homes if
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And yet they are so willing to emotionally manipulate you, to castigate you, to use Chris
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I mean, it's usually not as blatant as the, the chief scientist, the most famous scientist
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in the world on this issue saying you all have to stay at home.
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And meanwhile, he's slipping his mistress in through the back door.
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It's usually not quite as obvious as Chris Cuomo saying, we've all got to stay home because
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my brother Andy Cuomo says we've got to stay home.
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Meanwhile, he's slipping out the back door and going on jogs in Southampton.
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It's usually not that obvious, but the hypocrisy is always there.
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Here's a doctor, medical doctor, an expert, one of our, our benevolent betters who's going
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to run our lives for us and take politics away from self-governing people.
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That's how you know he's a very serious person.
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So he puts this out on Twitter and he proposes a new concept.
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Your death number is the number of deaths of your fellow Americans.
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You're willing to accept to save, say, 1000 jobs.
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For context, we've lost around 461 jobs for every one death so far.
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So that gives me some context of his point of view.
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It's just the same narrative we've heard from the beginning.
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If you oppose shutting down the global economy, then you're killing people.
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If you think that people should like ever go back to work, you've got blood on your hands.
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Like the good people who completely misled us based on bunk, fake science and locked down
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the global economy and then didn't abide by the lockdown orders themselves, but forced
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But the bad people are, say, you, a middle class salon worker in Texas who just wants
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Those are the bad people in this bizarre world.
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We know it's not a choice between we've got to save this job or kill this person.
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First of all, when you destroy 30 million jobs, people die.
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Every one percentage point, the unemployment rate ticks up.
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People are going to die from suicides and drug overdoses and other things too.
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The other side of it is with the lockdowns, we're not sure that that saved even one life.
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The purpose of the lockdown, as I've said before, is to not overwhelm the healthcare system
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No evidence we're going to get a vaccine before the virus spreads through the population.
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And we didn't even come close to overwhelming the healthcare system anywhere, including even
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So no evidence that the lockdowns have saved lives.
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The entire concept he's proposing is ridiculous.
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Here's, this is, this is an even newer concept than this doctor's.
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My concept is, let's reject the modern ideologies that reduce politics to bean counting and
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utilitarianism and this death or not this death, and that reduce all of life to matter.
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And let's maybe reject those stupid modern, now we would say leftist ideologies in favor
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of a fuller view of politics that takes into account what human life really is and what
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How about, I mean, maybe that's an older concept.
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The older concept that we, we not just export all of our politics to these experts in lab
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Literally in the case of that guy in the UK, Neil Ferguson.
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He, very, part of his problem right now is that he didn't have his clothes on for quite
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And yet the left treats science like it's a god.
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Well, if science is your god, then science is a god that failed.
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God that failed is a phrase that was used to refer to communism back in the 20th century
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for all these communists, guys like Arthur Kessler, people like Whitaker Chambers, who
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You know, communism was a replacement religion for people who had lost their religion, became
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But the utopia, the perfection of communism, it failed.
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And that was when a lot of people became disillusioned with that.
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Scientism, which is what we've seen throughout this pandemic, scientism, the way to outsource
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all of our politics, all the hard decisions, the serious eternal questions about ethics
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and how we live, the decision to export all of that to some guy in a lab coat because
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He knows how to make moral decisions for me for some reason because he got a degree in
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And we've got to stop allowing demagogues and hack politicians push that onto us.
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President Trump is showing the way here a little bit.
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President Trump, he's been criticized for being too tough.
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You know, he uses his press conferences to argue with the scientists.
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He's tweeting about liberating different states.
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He was asked in an interview on ABC with David, David Mweir.
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He was asked what he would say to the families of the people who have been killed by coronavirus.
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We've lost more people now than we lost in the Vietnam War.
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What do you want to say to those families tonight?
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I want to say that we're doing everything we can.
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I also want to say that we're trying to protect people over 60 years old.
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I want to just say to the people that have lost family and have lost love and the people
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that have just suffered so badly and just made it and just made it that we love you.
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We're supplying vast amounts of money like never before.
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We want that money to get to the people and we want them to get better.
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You can never really come close to replacing when you've lost some.
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No matter how well we do next year, I think our economy is going to be raging.
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No matter how well those people can never, ever replace somebody they love.
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But we're going to have something that they're going to be very proud of.
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And to the people that have lost someone, there is nobody.
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There is nobody that's taking it harder than me.
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But at the same time, I have to get this enemy defeated.
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That is such a wise distillation of the conservative sense of politics.
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I know people don't consider Donald Trump to be a political philosopher.
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What do you say to the people who have died from coronavirus?
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The premise of the question is a leftist premise.
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The leftist premise is there's no limit to politics.
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We can solve any problem with politics because politics is a science.
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And so when we just put the experts in charge, they'll figure out the perfect scientific political solution.
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And then we won't have any more death or misery anymore.
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That's what you're, that's what you're supposed to say on the kind of leftist progressive idea of politics.
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A sense of empathy, a sense of human solidarity, and a sense of humility that politics can't fix everything.
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And it's going to spread like other viruses spread.
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Like other plagues have spread throughout all of human history.
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Even the whole idea was flatten the curve, right?
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That was the best idea they could come up with.
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Flatten the curve means the same number of people are going to get it.
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And assuming you don't overwhelm the healthcare system and you don't have a vaccine, the same number of people are going to die.
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I mean, in some ways, they explicitly deny mortality.
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You hear all these kind of leftist futurists talking about how they're going to get the cure.
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And through technology, we're going to live forever, right?
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But more generally, they deny the fact that we're all going to die someday.
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So everything is about living in fear and clutching your pearls.
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And if the coronavirus doesn't get us, then the sun monster is going to get us.
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And we've all got to hide indoors and not go outside.
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But conservatives accept the tragic fact of life.
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Our politics is not able to do every single thing.
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And when we try to create a politics that can solve every problem, very often it creates
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more misery than we started with in the first place.
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Maybe he's not formulating all of this in his head.
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I mean, I think a key part of that sort of conservative insight is that your gut can lead
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But he goes straight from that into what we're going to do now facing China, how we're going
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to move forward in the realm that politics can achieve things in, namely in international
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trade, in manufacturing, in shoring up our supply chain.
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Then we'll get into an important symbol that Trump showed.
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You know, I feel the messaging out of the White House has been a little back and forth,
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Sometimes you think, okay, it's going to be really hopeful.
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Then we're not going to leave it up to the States.
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But I think now the White House is getting really on the right track here.
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And you see it even in a symbol, Donald Trump walking through a manufacturing plant.
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Obviously, there's no amount of technological, utilitarian, leftist calculation that can ever
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Then he moves on to what politics can accomplish, which is in all these other political realms.
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Namely, in manufacturing, he makes the announcement that the U.S. is taking back our manufacturing
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This pandemic has underscored the vital importance of reshoring our supply chains and constructing
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Oftentimes, you'd see a plant like this in a different country doing the work you could be doing and you'll do it better.
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The United States declared its independence nearly 250 years ago.
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But in recent decades, Washington politicians allowed our independence to be offshored, outsourced and ceded to foreign countries.
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So Trump is following up this announcement with some specific features of the policy.
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So Reuters is reporting that the Trump administration is trying to create an alliance of trusted partners,
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which will be called the Economic Prosperity Network.
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And this would include companies and civil society groups operating under the same set of standards
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on everything from digital business, energy, and infrastructure to research, trade, education, and commerce.
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You've got to ask yourself why we shipped everything over to China in the first place.
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There's a kind of philosophical political reason.
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The philosophical political reason was that there was this idea among liberals,
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liberals on the left and the right in the 1990s and in the 2000s,
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that if China rose up, that would be good for the whole world.
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That would be wonderful because China will bring them back into world trade,
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will admit them to the World Trade Organization,
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will, you know, get them hooked on the U.S. dollar.
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Then they'll begin to democratize because you can't possibly become rich
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and not want to follow in the liberal democratic traditions of the West, right?
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It turns out that's not how it worked out at all.
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Actually, the richer China got, the more it clamped down on its own population,
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the more it put millions of its own citizens in concentration camps,
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the more it forced its population to kill its own children through the one-child policy
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until finally they realized they were going to have a dying population.
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So they had to lighten up on that a little bit.
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The more China started aggressing on the United States,
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on our interests in the South China Sea, for instance,
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We should not have admitted China to the World Trade Organization.
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We should not have cheered them on as they were rising up
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because now we're facing the worst geopolitical adversary we've had since the Soviet Union.
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Because when you buy something in America, it's more expensive.
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You know, sweet little Lisa said to me the other day,
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At this point, it's unpatriotic of us to do that.
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Very little of anything is made in America these days.
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And if we've got to pay a little bit more, that's fine.
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Then I look at how much more you've got to pay.
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It's going to cost us more money to get cheap consumer goods,
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In any way, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
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So President Trump, very big on this manufacturing point,
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Honeywell is manufacturing protective personal equipment.