The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 553 - Big Tech Goes Too Far

00:00:00.000 President Trump promises to rein in the power of big tech after Twitter makes unprecedented moves to interfere in the presidential election.

00:00:08.480 Then, speaking of power grabs, our de facto president, Dr. Fauci, seems to be appointing himself pope as well by telling churches to stop giving out Holy Communion.

00:00:19.660 Jimmy Fallon apologizes for a joke he told 20 years ago.

00:00:23.600 Planned Parenthood gets caught lying about their baby body part business under oath.

00:00:27.640 And finally, the mailbag. All that and so much more. I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:39.900 I'm not saying Dr. Fauci is the Antichrist. Okay, I'm not saying that.

00:00:44.640 I don't want any of you to accuse me of saying that Dr. Fauci is the Antichrist.

00:00:50.620 But, is Dr. Fauci the Antichrist?

00:00:54.380 It's just, look, it's weird to tell the churches no Holy Communion. It's weird.

00:00:59.440 I'm just asking questions. I am not saying, however, that Dr. Fauci is the Antichrist. I'm not saying that.

00:01:06.400 We've got a whole lot to get to.

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00:02:24.260 Big tech has gone too far.

00:02:27.060 Way too far.

00:02:29.240 We talked about this a little bit yesterday.

00:02:31.640 Twitter is now fact-checking Donald Trump on this issue of voter fraud through the mail.

00:02:37.920 And the fact-check is ironic because the thing that Trump said is actually correct

00:02:42.580 and is proven out by cases that the DOJ is looking into and that have been proven of mail fraud,

00:02:48.820 of voter fraud, rather, including mail fraud.

00:02:51.560 And it's ironic because the fact-check is not correct.

00:02:56.480 The fact-check is this implication that what Trump said is not true and what Trump said actually is true.

00:03:00.600 Look, we've all dealt with big tech coming after us a little bit, okay?

00:03:07.180 I remember on Election Day 2016, I was barred from Twitter for 24 hours on Election Day.

00:03:15.060 And it was because I shared a meme joking about Hillary Clinton and Hillary voters.

00:03:19.020 And they took me off Twitter for 24 hours, just coincidentally on Election Day.

00:03:23.540 I've heard this story from so many people.

00:03:26.840 It's true not just on Twitter, but it's true on Facebook and YouTube, right?

00:03:29.720 It's happened to all of us.

00:03:31.400 This is different.

00:03:33.840 Fact-checking the president of the United States in a presidential election year on the issue of voting,

00:03:38.900 especially when Twitter's wrong and Trump is right, is a big issue.

00:03:43.400 It matters because it means Twitter is going to interfere in a presidential election.

00:03:46.840 It matters because Twitter is now telling you that it will no longer be a neutral platform.

00:03:53.100 It will actually weigh in and tell you what you should believe and what you should not believe.

00:03:58.340 And it matters because Twitter has just opened itself up to an absolute nightmare of double standards.

00:04:05.100 For instance, Twitter decided it was going to weigh in and fact-check

00:04:09.440 President Trump's completely accurate statement about voter fraud in the mail.

00:04:14.240 But Twitter is not going to weigh in at the same time

00:04:18.080 while President Trump accuses a morning TV show host of murdering a staffer.

00:04:25.380 Isn't that a little odd?

00:04:26.420 Because I'm willing to admit, okay, I'm not so blinded by partisanship.

00:04:30.720 I'm willing to admit that, you know, maybe Joe Scarborough did not murder his staffer.

00:04:36.160 Okay, I think, I actually think it's unlikely that Joe Scarborough is a murderer.

00:04:40.380 But that's not the tweet that's fact-checked.

00:04:43.020 It's the other tweets.

00:04:45.140 Trump tweeted, she tweeted this out.

00:04:46.700 This is about poor old Joe.

00:04:47.980 The opening of a cold case against psycho Joe Scarborough was not a Donald Trump original thought.

00:04:52.340 This has been going on for years, long before I joined the chorus.

00:04:55.340 In 2016, when wacky Joe and his wacky future ex-wife, Mika, what a line.

00:05:02.300 What a, totally landed.

00:05:04.200 Would endlessly interview me, I would always be thinking about whether or not Joe could have done such a horrible thing.

00:05:09.460 Maybe or maybe not, but I find Joe to be a total nutjob, and I knew him well for far better than most.

00:05:15.100 So many unanswered and obvious questions, but I won't bring them up now.

00:05:19.280 Law enforcement eventually will.

00:05:21.980 So if any tweet is going to be fact-checked, probably it should be this one, right?

00:05:28.100 But it, but it isn't.

00:05:29.860 Twitter is not fact-checking this because the Joe Scarborough thing is just a total distraction.

00:05:35.060 It doesn't actually matter, right?

00:05:36.540 And the line about the wacky future ex-wife is extremely funny.

00:05:40.240 So that, that doesn't threaten the left.

00:05:42.780 Donald Trump pointing out that what they're trying to do to voting all across this country is illegitimate.

00:05:48.880 That does threaten the left's plans, and so they're going to try to shut it down.

00:05:51.980 Lots of double standards.

00:05:53.260 And, of course, there's this, this overarching problem, which is that big tech almost exclusively targets conservatives.

00:06:00.720 So what do we do?

00:06:01.640 Donald Trump has an idea.

00:06:02.640 He tweets out,

00:06:03.160 Republicans feel that social media platforms totally silence conservative voices.

00:06:07.600 We will strongly regulate or close them down before we can ever allow this to happen.

00:06:12.380 We saw what they attempted to do and failed in 2016.

00:06:15.700 We can't let a more sophisticated version of that happen again, just like we can't let large-scale mail-in ballots take root in our country.

00:06:23.100 It would be a free-for-all on cheating, forgery, and the theft of ballots.

00:06:26.320 Whoever cheated the most would win.

00:06:28.260 Likewise, social media.

00:06:29.440 Clean up your act now.

00:06:30.920 Love this.

00:06:31.780 Totally support it.

00:06:32.580 What specifically should be done?

00:06:36.660 Some people say we should do nothing in the name of some free market that isn't particularly free.

00:06:42.880 Those people are the squishes. 0.98

00:06:44.340 They're the ones that do nothing, just let social media control the flow of information and interfere in a presidential election. 0.52

00:06:51.280 That's not a serious argument.

00:06:53.560 Some people say we don't need to pass new laws.

00:06:55.960 We can just enforce the laws on the books.

00:06:58.900 This is a much smarter group of people.

00:07:00.920 This is people like Senator Ted Cruz who says this.

00:07:03.680 They're speaking specifically about a section of a law from the 1990s.

00:07:08.140 It's called Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.

00:07:11.740 This Section 230 is what provides what you've heard of as the publisher-platform distinction.

00:07:18.940 So it was this protection for technology companies in the 90s to help the internet grow.

00:07:24.920 And what it said was, if you are a platform, then you're not going to be held liable for the stuff, the content on your platform.

00:07:33.380 But if you're a publisher, like a newspaper or a TV network, then you can be held responsible for those sorts of things.

00:07:40.520 I think this is good.

00:07:41.880 We should maybe go down this road.

00:07:43.280 But I think the reality of it is all of those distinctions are academic.

00:07:48.820 They're intellectual distinctions.

00:07:50.940 Intellectual games going back and forth over what a phrase means that basically misses the point.

00:07:56.000 That's not how laws are actually made and enforced in this country.

00:08:01.100 Do you think that the framers of our Constitution, when they were writing the Constitution, they included a right to abortion in there?

00:08:08.880 But secretly, like an invisible ink that only a couple hundred years later did a bunch of rogue lawyers on the Supreme Court figure out?

00:08:16.020 Do you think that's what happened?

00:08:17.260 No, that isn't what happened.

00:08:18.540 Do you think that the founders and the framers secretly in Invisible Ink included a right to same-sex marriage, monogamous but not polygamous in the Constitution?

00:08:29.700 And then 250 years later, a bunch of lawyers on the Supreme Court finally read between the lines in the Invisible Ink?

00:08:36.040 No, of course not.

00:08:37.220 Do you think that the First Amendment has always protected, for instance, pornography?

00:08:40.960 No, certainly hasn't, because for most of our country's history, there was no protection for pornography.

00:08:45.360 Do you think, moving beyond the Constitution into the law, that the Civil Rights Act protects gender identity as certain lawyers are litigating right now?

00:08:56.280 No, of course not.

00:08:57.360 It included protections on the basis of sex.

00:08:59.520 There was no conception of gender identity as we think of it today, back when the Civil Rights Law was passed.

00:09:05.180 The left understands power a lot better than the right.

00:09:09.320 Okay, that's just the point.

00:09:10.420 There are written laws, and there's a written Constitution on the one side.

00:09:16.340 There's also the real practical set of laws and the real practical Constitution on the other side.

00:09:23.760 Okay?

00:09:24.360 And sometimes those have more to do with each other than at other times, but sometimes they're very separate.

00:09:30.980 This situation with big tech is unacceptable.

00:09:33.660 We cannot allow it to go on.

00:09:35.340 It is a threat to our country.

00:09:36.960 It is a threat to our democratic institutions.

00:09:40.600 We have to stop it.

00:09:41.660 However it is stopped is the way that we should stop it, and we should worry a little bit less about the intellectual games and the academic discussions.

00:09:49.780 Speaking of outrageous power grabs, Dr. Fauci is now, having already appointed himself president, apparently going to appoint himself pope as well.

00:09:58.880 We'll get to that in one second.

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00:11:06.520 So Dr. Fauci is being asked, as the country begins to reopen, how they should reopen.

00:11:12.400 Part of the reason the country is reopening so soon is because we, the people, just refused to accept the new normal and this state of lockdown for months and months and years and years.

00:11:23.240 Here in LA and in many places around the country, they said that churches weren't going to open up for months.

00:11:29.100 Churches weren't going to open up for years.

00:11:31.520 And then all the rest of us said, no, I don't think so.

00:11:34.380 And then Trump's DOJ said, no, I don't think so.

00:11:36.880 So now finally they're beginning to open up the churches.

00:11:38.700 But what Dr. Fauci says is, we should not have Holy Communion.

00:11:44.420 We're not allowed to have Holy Communion.

00:11:45.900 It's, you know, it's too dangerous.

00:11:47.760 It's a direct quote.

00:11:48.920 I think for the time being, you just got to forestall that.

00:11:52.400 That's what Fauci said to America, which is a left-wing Jesuit magazine, Catholic magazine.

00:11:57.900 So now the Dr. Fauci, the exalted Dr. Fauci is making not only our political decisions for us, but our religious decisions as well.

00:12:08.160 All in the name of what?

00:12:09.980 You guessed it.

00:12:11.440 Science.

00:12:12.820 Science.

00:12:13.520 The overarching political and religious structure in the country.

00:12:17.540 First of all, the lab coats have no right to make these kinds of decisions for us.

00:12:24.940 Okay?

00:12:25.460 We like their advice.

00:12:26.880 We're glad that they give us advice.

00:12:28.480 They have no right to be making these kinds of decisions.

00:12:31.340 Second of all, the lab coats, the experts, the exalted scientists have been wrong, even in their own field.

00:12:40.620 Even in the very narrow category of concepts that they can give us some expertise in.

00:12:48.000 They've been wrong from the very beginning.

00:12:49.980 They've been wrong on how the virus would spread, how bad the virus would be, who the virus would affect, how the virus and when the virus would go away.

00:12:59.480 They've been wrong about everything.

00:13:01.280 But now we're not only allowing them to dictate our politics to us, we're allowing them to dictate our religious life to.

00:13:07.020 That's because we've outsourced our politics to these lab coats and we've outsourced our religion to them as well. 0.56

00:13:14.500 That has been a project of the left going all the way back to Karl Marx.

00:13:18.860 They've wanted government by the experts so that we don't have any debate any longer.

00:13:25.360 Because the path to history is so clear.

00:13:28.760 Because there's a progressive utopia.

00:13:31.180 We're all on the path there's really nothing to argue about anymore.

00:13:33.520 Well, that isn't true.

00:13:35.320 That project failed.

00:13:37.020 We should take our politics back and certainly we should take our religion back. 1.00

00:13:41.020 And I hope that pastors and priests and bishops grow a spine and stand up to this kind of nonsense.

00:13:46.420 Because while Dr. Fauci might think that man can live by bread alone, mere bread alone, the rest of us know that is not true.

00:13:54.940 Speaking of pretending to be things you're not, Jimmy Fallon.

00:13:57.960 You know Jimmy Fallon, host of The Tonight Show, formerly on Saturday Night Live.

00:14:01.960 Jimmy Fallon is coming out and finally apologizing for a joke he told 20 years ago.

00:14:08.960 I kid you not.

00:14:09.600 Jimmy Fallon started trending on Twitter yesterday or the day before because a sketch resurfaced in which Jimmy Fallon did an impression of Chris Rock.

00:14:20.060 And when Jimmy Fallon did the impression of Chris Rock, he darkened his skin.

00:14:24.800 And so this was portrayed as Jimmy Fallon engaging in blackface, which many of his colleagues have done, but they don't get in trouble for it for some reason.

00:14:33.400 We'll get to that in a moment.

00:14:34.120 And so Jimmy Fallon had to apologize.

00:14:38.160 Here's the sketch.

00:14:39.440 Rock, now we're talking.

00:14:40.980 Where is he?

00:14:41.800 Man, oh man, read this book.

00:14:44.700 I've seen who wants to be a millionaire and guess what? 0.93

00:14:47.500 Not a lot of black folks on the show, right? 0.93

00:14:50.020 Not a lot of black folks on the show.

00:14:52.240 Know why? 0.99

00:14:53.020 Because black folks don't like to answer questions. 1.00

00:14:55.640 Or they want to be millionaires. 0.98

00:14:57.040 We got to ask that kind of question like, in 1981, how many grams of crack did Rick James smoke when he recorded Super Free?

00:15:05.520 Regis, you think the only way to get a brother on the show is to name it, who wants $50 cash and a pair of poopers?

00:15:11.280 Okay, so first of all, first takeaway from this, it's a pretty good Chris Rock impression, right?

00:15:17.020 It is.

00:15:17.460 It sounds a lot like Chris Rock.

00:15:19.040 Second takeaway, Jimmy Fallon's not doing blackface.

00:15:22.540 He darkened his skin. 0.93

00:15:24.980 His face looks black.

00:15:26.320 That's not what blackface is.

00:15:29.180 Okay, there are other left-wing comedians who have done blackface in this way who don't get in trouble for it. 0.99

00:15:37.980 Jimmy Kimmel, he portrayed Karl Malone and darkened his skin and made his face look black.

00:15:45.380 That too, not blackface. 0.97

00:15:48.200 Or Robert Downey Jr., the actor.

00:15:50.420 He portrayed a white guy playing a black guy in a movie, Tropic Thunder.

00:15:54.640 Also, not blackface. 0.74

00:15:57.500 What's the distinction? 0.94

00:15:59.800 Blackface, and the reason that people are offended by blackface, is when white actors darken their skin to mock black people. 0.58

00:16:09.220 That is considered offensive.

00:16:11.760 It actually has a long history in the American theatrical tradition, but putting all that aside and saying obviously nobody's going to do that anymore, that is what blackface is. 1.00

00:16:21.720 Doing an impression of Chris Rock is not doing blackface because Jimmy Fallon is not mocking black people generally.

00:16:30.300 He is doing a actually very good, precise impression of Chris Rock.

00:16:34.340 Same thing with Jimmy Kimmel as Karl Malone.

00:16:37.920 Same thing with Robert Downey Jr.

00:16:39.860 Robert Downey Jr. is not doing blackface.

00:16:41.920 He's doing a white guy wearing blackface to show the absurdity of blackface in that movie, Tropic Thunder. 0.84

00:16:50.840 Not the same thing.

00:16:53.540 And yet, Jimmy Fallon apologized.

00:16:55.240 He goes, in 2000, while on SNL, I made a terrible decision to do an impersonation of Chris Rock while in blackface.

00:17:00.900 There is no excuse for this.

00:17:02.320 I'm very sorry for making this unquestionably offensive decision, and thank you all for holding me accountable.

00:17:07.820 Oh, my goodness gracious. 0.98

00:17:10.020 That is so pathetic. 0.99

00:17:11.400 I get it. 0.98

00:17:11.860 Jimmy Fallon just wants to be a nice guy on TV and be liked by everybody, and so he's going to apologize for these kind of things.

00:17:18.440 Jay Leno was a little bit like that, you know, Fallon's predecessor.

00:17:21.240 Professor, social justice warriors here are apoplectic with this sort of fake problem.

00:17:30.960 Chris Rock is not offended by this.

00:17:33.060 I don't think most black people are offended by this.

00:17:36.120 I think it's mostly, I'm just looking at the commentary on it, I think it's mostly white liberals who are offended by this,

00:17:41.440 because it's always white liberals being offended on other people's behalf.

00:17:46.980 They go after Jimmy Fallon because he's a little bit of an easy target.

00:17:50.520 He's not as left-wing as, say, a Jimmy Kimmel, so Jimmy Kimmel generally gets away with it.

00:17:55.580 You know, they kick Megyn Kelly off of NBC for even mentioning blackface. 1.00

00:18:00.040 She mentioned it, but Joy Behar, who is also employed by network television, totally fine.

00:18:06.980 She actually wore blackface. 0.99

00:18:09.020 She wore a costume as, I think, Diana Ross. 0.97

00:18:11.900 Same kind of issue we're talking about here.

00:18:14.240 We did a show a week or two ago saying that we have too few problems in this country.

00:18:20.500 This would be one of them.

00:18:21.500 But actually, this itself is the problem, which is weaponizing this kind of performed offendedness

00:18:30.560 to take out people that you don't like, even when this has not been an issue for 20 years.

00:18:37.880 You know, in some ways, it's like during a political campaign when assault allegations come up

00:18:45.940 or racial allegations come up, whatever kind of allegations come up.

00:18:49.380 You say, wait a second, no one's heard about this for 30 years.

00:18:51.340 Now, all of a sudden, it pops up.

00:18:52.920 It seems a little bit convenient.

00:18:54.380 Same thing here as well.

00:18:56.480 Meanwhile, though, we have some of these fake problems.

00:18:59.440 Meanwhile, the worst villains on earth are getting away, literally, with murder.

00:19:03.580 And this ties in a little bit with what we were talking about earlier, about the written

00:19:07.300 law versus the real law.

00:19:10.420 Planned Parenthood just got caught breaking the law and then lying under oath about whether

00:19:17.600 or not they broke the law.

00:19:19.020 Planned Parenthood, we remember this from a few years ago.

00:19:21.200 Planned Parenthood sold the body parts of aborted babies for cash.

00:19:28.280 We know they did that.

00:19:29.640 That is against the law.

00:19:30.680 That's against 42 U.S. code 289G2, which broadly forbids the exchange of valuable consideration

00:19:38.000 for fetal tissue.

00:19:39.300 First videos came out five years ago.

00:19:40.680 You might remember them.

00:19:41.800 It's Planned Parenthood executives haggling with investigative journalists who are pretending

00:19:46.560 to be procurers of baby body parts, haggling over the price, one of them joking that she 0.98

00:19:51.940 wants a Lamborghini.

00:19:52.700 What would you expect for intact tissue?

00:20:01.200 What sort of compensation?

00:20:02.960 What sort of...

00:20:03.660 Well, why don't you start by telling me what you're used to paying?

00:20:06.340 Well, you know in negotiations, a person who throws out the figure first is at a loss,

00:20:10.820 right?

00:20:11.100 So...

00:20:11.700 I want a Lamborghini. 0.80

00:20:13.160 Oh, she's so droll.

00:20:17.800 She just wants a Lamborghini and she knows the first person who throws out a dollar number 1.00

00:20:21.680 in a negotiation, that's the person who loses.

00:20:24.980 And the negotiation, by the way, to buy the body parts of babies that they've killed.

00:20:29.300 So Planned Parenthood initially denied this, even though it was on camera, they denied this.

00:20:33.280 I know that seems crazy, but they just went on TV, flat out denied it.

00:20:36.720 They sued the journalist to expose them for millions of dollars.

00:20:40.880 Then a judge who was on the board of a Planned Parenthood ruled against the journalist.

00:20:45.380 Gosh, how convenient is that?

00:20:46.920 Wonder why he might have made that decision.

00:20:48.820 The Planned Parenthood claim at that point was that they didn't actually sell the body

00:20:53.820 parts for money.

00:20:55.060 Sure, they sold body parts and they got money for it, but actually that money was just a

00:21:00.920 reimbursement for the costs of giving away the body parts to medical research.

00:21:06.280 Here's then president of Planned Parenthood, Cecile Richards, making this claim and lying

00:21:11.280 through her teeth.

00:21:12.380 Washington Post columnist Michael Gerson has pointed out that charging a fee for this,

00:21:15.980 for this material doesn't.

00:21:17.480 It's not a fee.

00:21:18.360 It's not a fee.

00:21:19.460 It's actually just the cost of transmitting this material.

00:21:22.240 Okay.

00:21:23.000 That's her story and she's sticking to it.

00:21:24.760 She made this claim in a lot of other places. 0.92

00:21:26.680 So knowing that Planned Parenthood was going to lie through their teeth about this, the journalist

00:21:31.020 behind all of this, who's a friend of mine, David Daleiden, uh, he emails Planned

00:21:36.080 Parenthood documents outlining specific costs for the body parts.

00:21:41.240 So not just saying, okay, you're going to reimburse us for the costs of, uh, or we're

00:21:46.500 going to reimburse you rather for the costs of getting these parts.

00:21:48.600 No actual dollar amounts for fetal liver, for the thymus, right?

00:21:54.840 For different, different parts.

00:21:57.380 Specifically, by the way, we're talking about usable parts.

00:22:00.240 So it's not even just for getting the parts and then if you can't use them too bad, they

00:22:05.180 are procuring usable parts.

00:22:06.640 Just like when you make a purchase from a department store and then if the product doesn't

00:22:11.440 work, you can go and return it or not pay for the product.

00:22:14.400 Same thing here.

00:22:16.200 Planned Parenthood insisted then to keep the lies going to the New York times that they

00:22:20.740 rebuffed a contract to sell aborted baby livers for 750 bucks each and $1,600 for liver and

00:22:26.920 thymus pairs.

00:22:29.100 However, the head of Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, uh, Tram Noyan now reveals that she

00:22:37.580 was in fact looking to move forward with the deal.

00:22:40.700 So, so right, even after they get caught with the dollar amounts, they say, look, we never

00:22:44.340 actually engaged in the deal.

00:22:46.080 We had no intention of engaging with the deal.

00:22:47.840 We now have her under oath saying she was moving forward with the deal.

00:22:52.980 At just one affiliate, Planned Parenthood Marmonte, the clinic took in 25 grand in just three

00:22:59.180 months by selling away baby body parts.

00:23:01.840 Here is Tram Noyan under oath admitting what she did. 0.94

00:23:07.080 Says that the fee to Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast for a fetal liver would be $750 and the

00:23:14.100 fee for fetal liver and a thymus would be $1,600.

00:23:17.720 This is an email chain between you and Doe9012, who is the Regional Medical and Surgical Services

00:23:30.720 Director, who we understand is Diane Santos.

00:23:32.720 Is that your understanding?

00:23:33.620 Yes.

00:23:34.620 Do you say FYI, we're still trying to move forward with this.

00:23:40.160 She responds to you and says, do you want to do this?

00:23:44.100 You respond to her and say, yes, ma'am.

00:23:46.920 Do you remember that exchange?

00:23:49.100 No.

00:23:49.540 Not until yesterday.

00:23:52.340 Okay.

00:23:53.240 So you wanted to move forward with the contract we just saw with those price terms?

00:23:57.660 Objection.

00:23:58.280 Mischaracterize the document.

00:24:00.620 Mischaracterize the testimony.

00:24:02.440 Fake.

00:24:03.540 I know I wanted to move forward with it.

00:24:06.000 I know I wanted to move forward with it.

00:24:07.760 We have her admitting it.

00:24:08.880 We have them under oath.

00:24:12.020 We have it in writing.

00:24:14.140 We have the dollar numbers.

00:24:16.280 We've got these guys dead to rights violating the law.

00:24:19.580 But this gets to this point earlier on.

00:24:22.680 This gets to this point about big tech and so many other facets of our politics.

00:24:28.920 Planned Parenthood is probably not going to be held accountable.

00:24:31.440 Do you think Planned Parenthood is going to be held accountable for this?

00:24:33.440 No way.

00:24:33.780 Actually, probably the journalist is going to continue to get in trouble.

00:24:40.040 The journalist is probably going to be forced to pay millions of dollars, have his life thrown

00:24:44.000 into chaos even more so because there's the law as it's written down and then there's the

00:24:50.480 practical law.

00:24:52.800 There's the constitution as it's written down, then there's the practical constitution.

00:24:56.760 And I think sometimes even people on the right get a little too confused about this.

00:25:00.140 They get really worked up because they say, look, the law is so clear.

00:25:04.020 Look, I can point to the law.

00:25:05.680 Sure.

00:25:06.420 Who's going to enforce it?

00:25:08.880 Who's going to enforce it?

00:25:12.840 Planned Parenthood commits crimes against humanity, crimes against the natural law, crimes against

00:25:17.480 the actual US code, crimes every single day, many, many, many times a day.

00:25:22.200 They don't get in trouble for it because we as a society have chosen to embrace them through

00:25:29.120 ridiculous Supreme Court decisions, multiple Supreme Court decisions, through ignoring parts

00:25:34.520 of the law and through going after people who are exposing those violators of the law. 0.57

00:25:39.180 That's an unfortunate reality, but that's the way politics always works.

00:25:43.480 We're only going to go along with the sort of laws that we want to go along with, right?

00:25:49.240 We are a self-governing people.

00:25:50.920 We live in real, real time and space with real desires.

00:25:54.780 Same thing with big tech.

00:25:56.320 Does section 230 of the Communications Decency Act establish this condition that the social

00:26:03.720 media companies have to be politically neutral?

00:26:06.440 Yeah, maybe it does.

00:26:07.460 Maybe it doesn't.

00:26:08.820 I don't know.

00:26:09.500 That, that was not the point of the law when it was passed.

00:26:12.460 Is that an effect of the law?

00:26:13.800 It should be an effect of the law.

00:26:15.160 Well, it's only going to be an effect of the law if we do something about it.

00:26:20.480 The left gets this.

00:26:22.080 The left gets that they've got to get into the institutions, that they've got to move

00:26:27.040 the, the levers of power, that they've got to worry less about academic debates and more

00:26:32.800 about actually affecting what they want in the world.

00:26:36.100 Conservatives need to wise up to that a little bit as well because there's nothing good and

00:26:39.440 wonderful and virtuous about frittering away all of our time on academic disputes while we

00:26:44.540 lose the actual power to govern and affect our agenda in the country.

00:26:50.360 Speaking of the difference between the imagined world and the real world, you got to turn to

00:26:55.960 the New York Times, which is the official paper of record of the imagined world.

00:26:59.940 You know, we talked yesterday about the, the Karen meets Karen, that, that, that altercation

00:27:04.840 in Central Park between the woman walking her dog and the creepy guy luring her dog away

00:27:09.180 with treats and filming her.

00:27:11.100 So there's a piece in the New York Times that gets this situation, I think, exactly backwards.

00:27:17.860 It's called A White Damsel Leveraged Racial Power and Failed. 1.00

00:27:23.120 This is by Ruby Hamad.

00:27:25.560 Ruby Hamad is the author of White Tears, Brown Scars, How White Feminism Betrays Women of Color. 0.99

00:27:31.960 So you can kind of get this lady's perspective. 1.00

00:27:34.600 Opening line, the symbolism is almost too much to bear.

00:27:40.220 The antagonist stares down the barrel of the camera, removing her surgical face mask. 1.00

00:27:44.880 At the same moment, she takes off her figurative face mask and offers the audience a glimpse

00:27:49.660 of what lies underneath.

00:27:51.440 The woman, Amy Cooper, points her finger at the stranger behind the camera, Christian Cooper,

00:27:56.620 to demand that he stop filming her.

00:27:59.080 When he refuses, she threatens to call the police and then immediately acts on her threat.

00:28:03.880 Now, this woman is portraying this as a bad thing. 1.00

00:28:06.940 If a man is filming a woman in a park against her will, that woman should call the police.

00:28:13.420 She maybe shouldn't get so hysterical about it and she shouldn't do some of the other

00:28:16.780 things that Amy Cooper did.

00:28:18.480 But the guy was in the wrong.

00:28:20.580 The guy started it. 0.88

00:28:21.960 He acted like a weirdo and a creep and he wouldn't go away. 0.94

00:28:25.040 And that's very bad. 0.98

00:28:26.040 So bad situation.

00:28:28.760 This woman immediately views it.

00:28:30.200 Of course it was this man's right to film this woman.

00:28:31.940 How dare she suggest that she would call the cops?

00:28:34.680 But then you get the money line at the end.

00:28:36.580 This is, this is the real line.

00:28:39.280 Her threats to Mr. Cooper have significance in a society that regards black men as persistent 0.95

00:28:45.000 threats to women. 0.63

00:28:47.180 It's not a society we're talking about.

00:28:48.880 We're talking about this guy being a weirdo around this woman, which he undeniably was.

00:28:52.500 They are a brutal reminder that whatever the actual substance of their dispute, she knew that a single cry for help could bring down the weight of white supremacy on his body. 0.89

00:29:05.200 This is what we talk about when we talk about the violence of white women's tears. 0.58

00:29:10.980 Except that didn't happen.

00:29:13.360 Right? 0.94

00:29:13.700 What this woman is asserting is that Amy Cooper knew that with just one call on her phone, she could bring down the weight of white supremacy on this black man's body. 0.97

00:29:24.320 It's very odd.

00:29:24.940 They always talk about bodies.

00:29:26.040 They don't talk about the whole person.

00:29:27.640 I think it's because they're materialists now and they only view the body as mattering.

00:29:33.420 But that's not what happened.

00:29:35.540 Actually, the woman made the call and then the weight of our actual culture destroyed her life, not his life.

00:29:46.020 She lost her job.

00:29:47.660 She lost her dog.

00:29:49.900 They took her dog away even.

00:29:51.660 She lost any reputation she had.

00:29:54.460 And the guy is totally fine.

00:29:57.640 He's fine.

00:29:58.380 He's a hero.

00:29:59.760 He is being exalted as a great man for creeping up on a woman and luring her dog away with treats and filming her against her will.

00:30:07.540 He's the good guy in the story, according to the pop culture.

00:30:11.260 And the woman had her life ruined. 0.92

00:30:14.380 Regardless of what they actually did, that's the effect on the culture.

00:30:17.600 And yet the narrative that the New York Times tells themselves is this is a white supremacist country that is constantly hunting down young, innocent black men.

00:30:27.020 LeBron James says black men can't walk out the door without being hunted down. 0.85

00:30:31.220 That isn't true. 0.94

00:30:33.620 That just simply isn't true.

00:30:36.480 There are rare incidents that become sensationalized precisely because they're so rare.

00:30:40.800 But the real culture, not the one that you read about in the New York Times, but the real culture, actually is the opposite of that.

00:30:50.900 This woman's life was destroyed for her damsel in distress cries. 0.96

00:30:55.840 This guy doing totally fine.

00:30:58.660 Now, you would think that this woman would actually be happy about that, right? 1.00

00:31:01.300 Because it shows we don't have a white supremacist country.

00:31:04.200 Isn't that a good thing?

00:31:04.900 No, the left can't ever be happy with any of those things that they want because the criticism, the complaining, the narrative is the whole point.

00:31:16.600 Before we get into the mailbag, I do quickly have to knock Jack Dorsey.

00:31:21.520 Jack Dorsey is the head of Twitter.

00:31:22.940 Jack Dorsey is very upset that some of us, after this fact check on President Trump, after Twitter decides to weigh in on a presidential election and interfere in it,

00:31:32.920 we've pointed out that the head of Twitter's site security, a young guy whose tweets have now been coming up, hates Donald Trump, hates him. 0.93

00:31:43.620 Calls Trump an actual Nazi.

00:31:46.160 Where's the fact check on that? 0.99

00:31:47.880 Says that the people in the middle of the country are more or less useless because they've elected a racist tangerine, as he said. 0.96

00:31:56.380 So this guy's getting a lot of play. 0.84

00:31:57.660 Jack Dorsey comes out and says, fact check.

00:31:59.460 There is someone ultimately accountable for our actions as a company and that's me.

00:32:03.260 Please leave our employees out of this.

00:32:05.520 We'll continue to point out incorrect or disputed information about elections globally.

00:32:09.040 No, you won't.

00:32:09.480 You're just doing it on Trump, not on his opponents.

00:32:11.480 And we will admit to and own any mistakes we make.

00:32:13.960 No, you're not admitting any mistakes you make.

00:32:15.540 You're just upset that we're going after your employee who's the head of site security.

00:32:19.360 You know whose fault it is that people are going after that employee?

00:32:21.960 Jack Dorsey's fault.

00:32:23.020 That's whose fault it is.

00:32:23.900 Jack Dorsey put that employee in that situation when he chose to weigh in to a presidential election.

00:32:29.900 I don't want to go after this kid.

00:32:31.760 I don't care.

00:32:32.600 I don't care that even the head of Twitter's site integrity, not site security, site integrity rather.

00:32:37.980 That's a sort of Orwellian term.

00:32:39.880 But he is on the department that is going after these fact checks.

00:32:44.880 I don't care that this guy hates Donald Trump.

00:32:47.100 It actually doesn't even bother me.

00:32:49.300 What bothers me is that Twitter is interfering in the presidential election.

00:32:52.820 That's not this young employee's fault.

00:32:55.800 That's Jack Dorsey's fault.

00:32:57.160 Jack Dorsey should own it.

00:32:58.100 He should change course ASAP.

00:33:00.040 And then finally, there is a major story that is developing right now as we speak

00:33:05.660 in relation to one of these awful stories about an unarmed black guy who was killed

00:33:12.020 because the police appear to have been way too heavy handed in making an arrest.

00:33:16.860 As a result of this, now there is looting in Minneapolis where the arrest occurred.

00:33:20.560 There is rioting going on in Los Angeles for some reason.

00:33:25.400 You can see the looters.

00:33:26.780 There are videos of them going all around the internet.

00:33:28.720 You can see the looters in Minneapolis just robbing a Target store.

00:33:34.380 Yeah, so just pouring in, pouring out, stealing a bunch of stuff.

00:33:37.940 I have a hot take on this.

00:33:39.820 Hot take is looting is bad.

00:33:44.740 That's my hot take.

00:33:46.260 I know, controversial.

00:33:47.320 Looting is bad.

00:33:49.280 Obviously, police brutality, if that's what occurred here, looks like it did.

00:33:52.560 That's very bad too.

00:33:53.920 There are investigations into that.

00:33:55.740 Donald Trump's DOJ is now investigating that.

00:33:58.480 He says justice will be served.

00:34:00.260 That's a good thing.

00:34:01.080 There's no excuse here for looting.

00:34:03.960 Doesn't look good.

00:34:04.740 And in Los Angeles, when I was looking at some of the looting, it looks like some of

00:34:08.080 them aren't even the BLM protesters who are rioting.

00:34:11.140 It's actually Antifa.

00:34:12.700 I would recognize those pallid little socialists anywhere.

00:34:16.380 There seem to be other groups involved as well.

00:34:20.080 Tragic that a man died.

00:34:22.220 Good that there's an investigation.

00:34:25.920 Civil society is a delicate thing.

00:34:27.660 Now, that's my big takeaway on big tech, on Pope Fauci, on Jimmy Kimmel almost getting

00:34:37.020 canceled 20 years later, on all of these things, on the looting.

00:34:41.880 Civil society is a delicate thing.

00:34:43.940 It's not so simple as we have a constitution, we have a set of laws, everything's going to

00:34:47.640 be hunky-dory.

00:34:48.980 Because there it is.

00:34:49.880 It's written down.

00:34:50.560 It's not so simple as we've behaved in certain ways in the past, so now we'll be fine.

00:34:56.560 There's no amount that we can exert on our society that will crack it.

00:35:02.740 It's delicate.

00:35:03.860 So civil society can be broken by corrupt officials.

00:35:06.720 It can be broken by corrupt businessmen, maybe in big tech.

00:35:10.760 It can be broken by corrupt people who go looting.

00:35:16.500 It can be broken.

00:35:18.920 We are now in a position where we are being encouraged mostly by the left to break that

00:35:23.940 society.

00:35:24.480 Why does the progressive left want to break the society?

00:35:26.220 Because they don't like the society that much.

00:35:28.140 That's why their presidents say they want to fundamentally transform that society.

00:35:31.540 That's why they engage in criticism all the time of that society, trying to progress forward

00:35:37.820 into the future.

00:35:38.680 If you want to conserve any of that society, then you've got to be careful.

00:35:44.100 We've got to be a little bit more delicate with our institutions, with our traditions, and

00:35:48.240 with each other.

00:35:48.820 We'll get to the mailbag in one second.

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00:37:01.040 We'll be right back with the mailbag.

00:37:14.700 Running late as usual, but there's just too much to get in, so let's fly through this

00:37:18.500 mailbag.

00:37:19.080 From Shane, Michael, do you find it a coincidence that once again during a present,

00:37:23.560 presidential election year, the media is playing the America and Americans are racist narrative?

00:37:29.080 Just recently, you had the Arbery and Ms. and Mr. Karen racist event in like a one-week

00:37:34.620 stretch.

00:37:35.480 Do you see this as being artificially hyped up for the election?

00:37:37.960 And do you think it is a calculated play to make these issues borderline racists so the

00:37:42.120 Dems can automatically call the people involved racist while the right waits for more information,

00:37:46.740 which allows the left to call us racist and not for minorities?

00:37:51.700 Seems like the tried and true Democrat strategy to me, do nothing to help minorities than play up 0.88

00:37:56.100 so-called racist incidents every four years to retain the vote.

00:37:58.980 Thanks.

00:37:59.460 Yeah, that is going on.

00:38:01.000 That is going on.

00:38:02.300 Unquestionably.

00:38:02.700 Unquestionably.

00:38:03.700 I mean, you saw the article, we just read it in the New York Times, which is actually

00:38:09.160 concocting this narrative, which was contradicted by reality, but consider this.

00:38:14.120 I think there are about 55 homicides in the United States every day, actual full-on homicides.

00:38:19.680 All of those homicides are not reported on.

00:38:24.060 They couldn't be, right?

00:38:25.000 There just isn't enough time to report on them, and it's not newsworthy when 55 of them

00:38:28.900 happen every day.

00:38:30.420 Only certain stories become sensationalized into these national news stories pushed relentlessly

00:38:36.660 by the mainstream media who work for the left, who work for the Democratic Party.

00:38:42.840 The selection of those stories is the key here because those stories are selected to advance

00:38:48.600 a particular narrative.

00:38:51.220 I'll give you an example.

00:38:52.340 If the mainstream media wanted to be racially divisive the other way around, what they would

00:38:58.140 do is play up that video that was going a little bit around social media of a black elder

00:39:03.520 facility worker punching repeatedly in the head this older white man in his bed.

00:39:08.800 That was going around the internet.

00:39:10.780 Now, is that indicative of a broad systemic issue of elder abuse and specifically racial elder

00:39:17.780 abuse?

00:39:18.140 Is there an epidemic of young black elder care workers beating up these older white? 0.92

00:39:23.440 I don't think so.

00:39:24.000 I don't think there's any evidence of that.

00:39:26.200 But if the mainstream media wanted to craft a narrative that there was such a thing going

00:39:30.860 on, they would play that video again and again and again and again.

00:39:35.480 But they don't do that, obviously, because it doesn't serve their political agenda.

00:39:38.400 They do, however, take these rare sensationalized stories of racial discrimination or abuse in

00:39:46.120 the other direction and play them again and again.

00:39:49.440 It is a form of political and emotional manipulation.

00:39:53.620 It is highly effective.

00:39:55.060 I mean, it's low down and rotten to do it, but it is very effective.

00:39:58.680 That is why they keep doing it.

00:40:00.840 And they're not just doing it this time.

00:40:02.660 They're going to do it another four years and another four years after that.

00:40:04.780 From David, hey, Michael, my question is, how do you defend the national motto, which

00:40:09.900 I personally agree with, in God we trust, as constitutional?

00:40:13.540 While I agree with it, I can't quite seem to be able to justify it as constitutional and

00:40:17.820 within the power of the federal government.

00:40:19.100 Thanks so much.

00:40:20.680 Well, by definition, it's constitutional and within the power of the federal government

00:40:24.080 in that we have, from the very beginning of our country, acknowledged God's role, right?

00:40:30.620 We acknowledge the role of providence on our own currency.

00:40:34.800 The very founding of our country was by Christian religious zealots on the Mayflower. 0.75

00:40:40.980 There were prayers at the beginnings of Congress and all of our founding fathers, almost all

00:40:47.660 of them, had a deep and abiding faith.

00:40:50.300 So, of course, it's constitutional.

00:40:52.200 I mean, what is more constitutional?

00:40:55.580 The kind of arbitrary interpretation of the constitution that some secular leftists have

00:40:59.700 today or the way that the founders and framers thought about the constitution?

00:41:03.880 Obviously, the latter is.

00:41:06.500 There's a big misunderstanding about church and state in America.

00:41:10.720 People believe that the First Amendment separates completely church and state.

00:41:14.420 First of all, that isn't exactly true.

00:41:16.980 What the First Amendment does is prohibit the establishment of a religion at the federal level.

00:41:22.120 But actually, just because there's no established church at the federal level does not mean that

00:41:27.020 there cannot be established churches at the state level.

00:41:29.160 And actually, at the time of the ratification of the constitution, there were established

00:41:33.260 churches at the state level, just not, rather, at the federal level.

00:41:37.900 And then, moreover, freedom of religion, freedom to have your own churches, at least as a federal

00:41:44.600 matter, is not freedom from religion.

00:41:47.440 It was never considered to be that way.

00:41:49.480 That is absurd.

00:41:51.380 This country was founded as a shining city on a hill.

00:41:54.100 The founders and framers said repeatedly, John Adams very clearly, that the country is only

00:42:00.600 built for a moral and religious people.

00:42:02.840 It is unfit to the governance of any other kind of people.

00:42:07.080 I'm going to take their word for it over, you know, the random neckbeard atheist who insists 0.89

00:42:14.880 that his own narrow reading of the constitution is the correct one.

00:42:17.880 Actually, this ties into the point we were talking about today.

00:42:22.060 You could, with sufficient hubris and sufficiently context-free interpretation, read almost whatever

00:42:32.980 you want into the constitution and into our laws.

00:42:36.300 But that won't do you very much good.

00:42:38.820 That doesn't actually ground you in what it means.

00:42:40.600 You've got to read it within context.

00:42:43.520 And then, moreover, the real political fact of it is our constitution is going to mean

00:42:49.100 what we want it to mean.

00:42:51.020 I mean, we hope that we can govern ourselves more and more like the document tells us to

00:42:56.720 and more and more with the institutions that the document sets up.

00:43:00.560 But in reality, there is the actual lived practical constitution and it looks a little

00:43:07.540 bit different than the written one.

00:43:09.140 And unfortunately, that real constitution that we live under looks like it's trending

00:43:14.220 in the wrong direction.

00:43:15.180 From Ken, Dear Mr. Knowles, knower of all that is right, why do you and your family continue

00:43:20.920 to live in la-la land?

00:43:22.700 Could you do your show from, say, Florida or Texas or some other more conservative state?

00:43:27.940 Thanks.

00:43:29.360 I suppose I could.

00:43:31.940 I don't know why I couldn't.

00:43:34.080 You know, we just build a studio and do the show from somewhere else.

00:43:36.920 I do like the idea of living in a liberal place because I'm a masochist.

00:43:41.820 I've always lived in liberal places.

00:43:43.620 New York, Connecticut, Los Angeles.

00:43:47.200 There is something that, you know, gives you a bit of an edge when you live in a left-wing

00:43:51.200 place.

00:43:51.660 It just lets you see the leftist culture more clearly.

00:43:55.060 But Newsom and Garcetti and all these other people are quickly making these places unlivable.

00:44:00.200 You know, I really like the sunshine and the nice weather and the palm trees.

00:44:03.140 But if they keep clamping down on us, you know, if they won't let us go to church or

00:44:07.860 something like that, then maybe we'll have to pick up and move.

00:44:11.060 We'll have to pull an Elon Musk and get out of Dodge.

00:44:15.180 All right.

00:44:15.580 Final question from Bird.

00:44:16.760 Name three people, living or dead, you'd love to interview.

00:44:23.200 Winston Churchill, certainly.

00:44:25.400 He would probably be the most fun to interview.

00:44:29.500 We could smoke cigars and get hammered while we paint and talk about, you know, all of the

00:44:35.080 things that not only Winston Churchill saw and experienced, but also wrote about.

00:44:40.340 Let's not forget he wrote the history of the English-speaking peoples.

00:44:42.500 Probably have a lot to talk about.

00:44:44.460 Dante.

00:44:45.340 Certainly I would want to meet and talk to Dante and get his religious vision and his artistic

00:44:52.720 understanding and then probably Christopher Columbus because he's so controversial now

00:44:59.180 and he's so essential to our civilization, to the, to the Americas, to the expansion of

00:45:05.140 the West.

00:45:05.860 And he's so often misrepresented that I, I'd like to get his side of the story.

00:45:10.940 I think he'd be pretty, pretty interesting dinner guest as well.

00:45:14.580 Those are the three guys just off the top of my head.

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The Michael Knowles Show - May 28, 2020

Ep. 553 - Big Tech Goes Too Far

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