The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 563 - The Judges Won’t Save Us

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00:00:38.340 Originalism is dead, and Neil Gorsuch killed it.

00:00:43.300 Originalism.

00:00:44.040 You know, we've heard this word so many times in recent years, the judicial philosophy of Antonin Scalia.

00:00:49.500 So important when the great Scalia died that we replace him with an originalist judge.

00:00:54.100 And we got an originalist judge, and that judge was Neil Gorsuch, and Neil Gorsuch just stabbed us in the back.

00:01:00.900 And Antonin Scalia is rolling over in his grave.

00:01:03.380 We got a terrible decision yesterday out of the Supreme Court, and it was all Gorsuch's fault.

00:01:08.060 This was a 6-3 decision.

00:01:10.100 So it was the three conservatives.

00:01:12.860 It was amazing because you would expect from everything we'd heard in the media that Brett Kavanaugh,

00:01:17.720 Trump's second pick, would maybe be the squishy guy, but he wasn't.

00:01:20.660 He was with the conservatives, he was with Clarence Thomas, he was with Sam Alito.

00:01:24.240 Then you had Neil Gorsuch, who was supposed to be more conservative.

00:01:27.220 He sides with the squished John Roberts and with the liberals to deliver a terrible decision on transgenderism.

00:01:35.220 This was legislating from the bench.

00:01:36.980 It was redefining sex to give credence to this whole crazy gender ideology now as part of the Civil Rights Act. 1.00

00:01:45.300 It's hard to remember a worse decision than this.

00:01:50.160 Worst of all, worst of all here, because this is going to have wide effect beyond the Civil Rights Act, beyond transgenderism. 0.92

00:01:58.200 This is going to have effects on our whole judicial process and theory. 0.99

00:02:04.680 Gorsuch defended his stupid opinion with the judicial philosophy of Antonin Scalia. 0.93

00:02:11.240 So, broadly speaking, what this judicial philosophy says is that we should interpret the words in laws to mean what they meant when they were written. 0.98

00:02:23.080 And this is very difficult for the decision that we got yesterday because the whole gender theory that goes into this decision didn't even exist when the law was written.

00:02:31.560 So there's no way to make that argument.

00:02:33.660 This was a really, really major setback for President Trump.

00:02:38.940 This was a major setback for the Constitution.

00:02:41.720 This was a major setback for conservatives.

00:02:44.280 And it was a warning because we have relied on the judges, right?

00:02:48.040 We have relied on the courts.

00:02:50.020 And the message we got yesterday from Gorsuch is the courts ain't going to save us.

00:02:54.480 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:02:55.240 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:56.380 We will get into this case.

00:03:05.780 We will get into Sam Alito's excellent dissent.

00:03:08.660 And we'll get into why this matters.

00:03:10.000 Why does some random case about transgender employment that theoretically is going to affect like 12 people in the country, what does that mean for us?

00:03:18.300 It means a lot.

00:03:19.140 This is going to change our judicial culture, our legal culture, our interpretation of the Constitution.

00:03:25.520 It's going to affect every business in the country.

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00:04:44.280 The case before the Supreme, there were a number of cases.

00:04:47.620 The big one is Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia.

00:04:51.360 That's how you're going to hear this decision referred to.

00:04:53.420 In Bostock, the case revolves around this county, Clayton County, firing Gerald Bostock for conduct unbecoming a county employee after he began to participate in a gay recreational softball league.

00:05:09.220 So the question is, can you discriminate against people on the basis of their sexual behaviors or if they're a man wearing a dress or something like that?

00:05:20.880 Now, you might say, I don't want to discriminate against gay people.

00:05:23.480 Yeah, okay.

00:05:23.840 I don't think anybody wants to discriminate against anybody.

00:05:25.980 But the question is, is there a law about this?

00:05:29.840 Now, Congress in recent years has tried to pass laws to broaden the Civil Rights Act to protect people on the basis of their sexual preferences or on the basis of their sexual identity, meaning transgenderism.

00:05:42.160 Those attempts have failed, okay?

00:05:44.980 So Congress has acknowledged that there is no current protection for that in the law.

00:05:49.760 That's why they've tried to pass new laws.

00:05:51.420 And they've failed because people don't want to protect that.

00:05:53.780 It obviously leads to a lot of difficult questions.

00:05:55.940 Are we now saying that a church can't fire people based on certain behaviors that maybe contradict their moral codes?

00:06:04.320 Well, currently there are some religious protections.

00:06:06.540 We'll see how long that lasts.

00:06:07.780 But what about religious business owners?

00:06:10.780 You know, people who practice their faith, their faith is integral to their business, but they're not a formed church.

00:06:15.700 Now they're going to be forced to engage in behaviors that they deem immoral or that they deem objectively untrue.

00:06:23.280 So that's why these, these attempts to pass this law have failed.

00:06:27.880 There were other cases associated. 0.90

00:06:30.160 Altitude Express filed, fired Donald Zarda days after he mentioned that he's gay.

00:06:36.040 RG and GR Harris Funeral Homes fired Amy Stevens, who is a guy.

00:06:41.140 And then one day Amy Stevens shows up in a dress and the funeral home says, look, we, we've got grieving families around here.

00:06:47.400 We can't have this distraction of a, of an obvious man wearing a dress.

00:06:51.480 And so, uh, all those cases went up.

00:06:54.100 We're actually going to speak very, uh, very briefly at the end of the show with the lawyer who argued the Harris Funeral Homes case.

00:07:01.360 So the, the question is, do protections on the basis of sex protect sexual preferences and sexual identity?

00:07:13.420 You know, a good way to think about this, we, we talk about Title IX and girls sports, you know, are boys allowed to play in girls sports leagues or not?

00:07:21.820 Well, Title VII is about employment.

00:07:23.780 So you've got protection on the basis of race.

00:07:26.660 You've got protection on the basis of religion.

00:07:28.140 You've got protection, a lot of different protections.

00:07:30.060 And you've got protection on the basis of sex.

00:07:32.120 But does sex mean sexual preference, sexual behavior, sexual identity?

00:07:36.760 No, I mean, the simple answer is no.

00:07:40.560 Nobody, when this law was passed in 1964, thought that that's what it meant.

00:07:45.180 No, the, the gender ideology that we now refer to as transgenderism didn't even really exist in 1964.

00:07:51.780 Not, certainly not in the way that we think about it.

00:07:53.820 So certainly not by any, any plain reading of the law, this was not protected.

00:07:59.840 And yet, Neil Gorsuch came around and he said it is protected.

00:08:04.660 So what was his argument?

00:08:05.960 His argument is that even though sex, you know, male and female, biology, even though that is a distinct category from sexual preferences or sexual identity, sure, those are distinct categories.

00:08:20.300 But you can't get a sexual preference without reference to sex.

00:08:25.200 You can't get a sexual identity without reference to sex. 0.97

00:08:27.400 Meaning, if I am, you know, the, the big, bad religious ink and I want to not hire people who are practicing homosexuals, then I can't fire someone for being a homosexual without also firing him for his sex. 0.96

00:08:44.140 Where I can't fire a guy. 0.78

00:08:46.480 If you're a man and you're attracted to men and you're living with a man and you're doing all sorts of stuff with the man, I can't fire you for doing that unless I know that you are a man and therefore I'm discriminated on the basis of sex.

00:08:57.740 This is a pretty weak argument.

00:08:59.280 And Sam Alito, who is an actual conservative, explained why this is a weak argument in his excellent dissent.

00:09:04.720 So he points out a great example in this dissent.

00:09:07.920 You don't have to go read the whole thing, though I, I would recommend it.

00:09:11.540 A great example is he says, okay, you've got a model employee at your company, right?

00:09:15.940 And you love this employee.

00:09:17.340 She's doing a great job.

00:09:18.440 Man, she couldn't be a better employee.

00:09:19.900 And then you, the boss, show up to the Christmas party and you meet the employee's wife. 1.00

00:09:27.140 So you find out that she is a lesbian and then the next day you go and fire her because you're a mean, bad, terrible guy. 0.99

00:09:32.360 The question is, is it legal for you to do that? 0.99

00:09:37.580 Well, in that case, as Sam Alito points out, it's pretty clear that you are not firing her for her sex because you already knew her sex when she was a model employee, right?

00:09:48.120 It's not like she was hiding that she was a woman from you.

00:09:50.220 You knew she was a woman and you gave her all sorts of promotions and you thought she was a great employee.

00:09:54.540 You're merely firing her for engaging in this homosexual relationship, which, regardless of what you think about that, whether you think the employer's a mean guy, is not protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

00:10:09.860 Most of Alito's dissent, though, is actually not even about this question.

00:10:13.120 Because, look, if you think that employers shouldn't be able to discriminate based on sexual preferences or sexual identity or whatever, fine, go ahead and pass a law about it.

00:10:22.040 That's what we do here in America.

00:10:23.480 That's what our republic is based on.

00:10:25.340 Go persuade your fellow citizens and pass a law.

00:10:28.620 But you can't pass a law because people actually don't want to change the law.

00:10:31.260 So one robed lawyer in particular, Neil Gorsuch, a pretend conservative, a traitor, came around and said, I'm just going to rewrite the law.

00:10:42.880 And the worst part about it was he did it in the name of originalism.

00:10:47.000 He did it in the name of pretending to be reading the text as it would have been understood when the text was written.

00:10:54.720 So most of Alito's dissent was actually about Scalia.

00:10:58.980 And the reason it was actually about the judicial philosophy and defending Scalia and originalism is because the credibility of originalism is on the line.

00:11:08.340 Originalism, interpreting the text to mean what it meant when it was written, is the creed of the conservative legal movement.

00:11:13.820 Now it's been used to justify changing the very meaning of sex.

00:11:19.500 The very meaning of sex.

00:11:21.000 Consider, I mean, I don't want to sound hyperbolic here with Neil Gorsuch, but the guy was brought in to replace the most conservative member of the Supreme Court.

00:11:31.500 He has now not only legislated from the bench, he has fundamentally redefined the fundamental aspect of our nature, which is sex.

00:11:40.340 There is no way now that conservatives can view Gorsuch as anything but one of the worst jurists in the history of the United States.

00:11:49.200 Not to put too fine a point on it.

00:11:52.100 What has the conservative judicial movement gotten us?

00:11:54.640 We've gotten a couple good decisions.

00:11:56.060 We got Heller, which protected our Second Amendment rights.

00:11:59.460 Citizens United, I guess, allows people to donate to political campaigns and allows businesses to donate to political campaigns.

00:12:06.340 What else?

00:12:08.260 We've got Obamacare still. 0.94

00:12:10.760 I was a conservative judge who gave us that.

00:12:13.100 We've got a radical redefinition of marriage from the bench.

00:12:15.960 We've not overturned Roe versus Wade.

00:12:18.940 We've upheld it.

00:12:20.260 We now have a fictional Civil Rights Act, right of men to wear dresses at work.

00:12:24.160 What has the conservative judicial movement got us?

00:12:27.060 I thought the judges were so important.

00:12:29.540 What happened to the judges?

00:12:30.780 There is one positive thing I can say.

00:12:35.240 It's not even really positive, but it's at least helps us understand this decision, which is the way we talk about the Civil Rights Act.

00:12:43.400 The way Neil Gorsuch talked about the Civil Rights Act is very similar to the way that we talk about the Constitution.

00:12:48.620 That might tell us something.

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00:13:56.640 Let's say that you come down on this question and you say, look, sexual preferences, sexual behavior, sexual identity, surely, are not protected characteristics, all right?

00:14:11.580 I can, I should be able to determine if my employee is a man wearing a dress.

00:14:16.680 Let's say you come down on that side of the equation.

00:14:19.100 Let's say you come down on the other side and you say, no, I think it's outrageous.

00:14:21.960 People should have protections for their sexual preferences and their behaviors and their identity.

00:14:26.820 Men should be allowed to wear dresses at the office. 0.99

00:14:28.980 And how dare you say otherwise?

00:14:30.440 Let's say you come down on either side.

00:14:32.200 I don't care.

00:14:34.980 Surely we can all agree that one robed lawyer on the Supreme Court should not be the one deciding that with his gavel for the whole country.

00:14:46.020 I'm reminded of Scalia's dissent in Obergefell, the gay marriage decision, where he said, the question of marriage is not what primarily interests me.

00:14:55.560 What I'm interested in is who rules me.

00:14:59.340 Who rules me?

00:15:01.020 Am I ruled by the Constitution?

00:15:03.060 Am I ruled by some other law? 0.99

00:15:04.880 Or am I ruled by some traitorous, backstabbing, robed lawyer named Neil Gorsuch? 0.97

00:15:12.420 I hope it's the Constitution, but I don't know. 0.92

00:15:14.400 This is the one thing I can sort of say, to put a button on this, about Gorsuch's opinion.

00:15:22.380 He's writing about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 in a similar way that people would write about the Constitution.

00:15:32.040 And I've noticed that we do this a lot.

00:15:35.120 We refer to the protections in the Civil Rights Act as like they're almost another kind of Constitution.

00:15:41.040 And this is the thesis of a very popular book right now.

00:15:43.860 I actually just got to the last chapter this morning on this book.

00:15:46.420 It's very good.

00:15:46.820 It's by Chris Caldwell.

00:15:48.080 It's called Age of Entitlement, America Since the Sixties.

00:15:51.900 Very important to read because basically the thesis of that book is that the Civil Rights Act and the tumult of the 1960s created a new parallel Constitution.

00:15:59.940 And much of our political rancor is arguing between the old constitutional order of the late 18th century and the new constitutional order of the 1960s.

00:16:09.920 One defense of Gorsuch, sort of, that I can think of is that he's telling us in this decision that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was actually much more radical than any of us want to believe it was.

00:16:22.660 Because we all say, okay, we like the Civil Rights Act.

00:16:24.400 We want to give civil rights to people.

00:16:25.880 We don't want people to be unfairly discriminated against on the basis of race.

00:16:29.780 That's really what the Civil Rights Act was about.

00:16:31.780 But then was the law written in such a way that it went far beyond that scope and it took far more power than any people thought that they were giving when they were trying to address this very specific racial question?

00:16:45.860 In the same way that Black Lives Matter isn't really about Black Lives mattering, is it possible that the Civil Rights Act isn't really about civil rights, at least not in the way that we're thinking about it?

00:16:54.960 But it was rather a more radical leftward lurch of our constitutional order.

00:16:58.800 Either way, either way.

00:16:59.800 Now, huge blow to Trump.

00:17:03.720 And it's not Trump's fault.

00:17:05.100 We all thought Gorsuch was fine, remember?

00:17:06.960 We were all worried about Kavanaugh.

00:17:08.760 We thought Gorsuch was the rock-solid, rock-ribbed judge.

00:17:12.800 So I don't blame Trump for this at all, but it's a big blow because Trump is campaigning on the judges, right?

00:17:18.220 That was a big part of the 2016 campaign.

00:17:20.440 And now one of his judges ends up being the worst jurist, one of the worst jurists in American history.

00:17:25.780 Trump also has some more trouble coming down the pike.

00:17:28.400 And I think this is because he's getting some bad advice from some of his advisors.

00:17:32.500 So, you know, there have been these crazy riots.

00:17:34.740 There's been the looting.

00:17:36.000 There's been the coronavirus lockdown.

00:17:37.660 And every time there's one of these incidents with a police-involved killing, there's this impulse for the president to speak out about it, to give an opinion.

00:17:47.440 The press were always asking questions.

00:17:48.920 So there was this shooting in Atlanta.

00:17:51.640 We went through it yesterday.

00:17:53.020 A drunk driver who was being arrested for being a drunk driver.

00:17:58.360 He then attacked the police, stole their taser, ran away, pointed the taser, fired the taser, and then the police discharged their weapons and killed him.

00:18:05.620 President Trump was asked about this scene.

00:18:07.940 And his take on it was similar to his take on other really dark-looking moments, you know, really dubious moments of interactions with the police and civilians.

00:18:19.940 He said it's very disturbing.

00:18:21.060 I thought it was a terrible, I'm not going to compare things, but I thought it was a terrible situation.

00:18:27.800 I studied it closely.

00:18:29.220 I'm going to get some reports done today, very strong reports, and we'll have a little more to say about it tomorrow.

00:18:35.620 But certainly it was very, to me, it was very disturbing.

00:18:38.260 Very disturbing.

00:18:39.100 It's very disturbing because shootings are very disturbing.

00:18:41.980 I agree.

00:18:42.480 Of course it's very disturbing.

00:18:43.540 You could see the video of this guy getting shot.

00:18:45.400 Even if he's a no-good, terrible guy, even if he's a criminal, even if the killing was justified, it's disturbing to watch a guy get shot.

00:18:54.780 But does anybody think it wasn't justified?

00:18:59.900 The police try to de-escalate the situation.

00:19:03.880 They try not to use too much force.

00:19:05.300 He was able to wrestle them off him because they weren't using very much force.

00:19:08.740 They steal his weapon.

00:19:10.300 They run away.

00:19:11.260 He runs away.

00:19:11.900 They still don't discharge their weapons.

00:19:13.580 The guy then turns, aims at them, and fires the taser gun.

00:19:17.920 Then they have to discharge their weapons.

00:19:20.100 Very sad.

00:19:21.920 But it's not justified?

00:19:24.960 The strongest argument I've heard, actually the only argument really I've heard as to how the cops could have gotten out of this situation without discharging their weapons is they could have let the drunk driver, now in possession of one of their weapons, just drive away.

00:19:38.060 Because people say, well, they had his home address.

00:19:39.760 They could have picked him up later.

00:19:40.660 So now you're telling me the best argument you've got is go let the drunk man get in a car.

00:19:45.280 That'll be safer for everybody.

00:19:47.360 With one of the cops' weapons.

00:19:48.680 I don't think so.

00:19:49.360 And go home?

00:19:50.160 By the way, most people keep their weapons at home.

00:19:52.800 Everyone I know who has weapons keeps most of them at home.

00:19:55.220 You're going to, you're, you're seriously saying that?

00:19:57.100 No.

00:19:57.520 Nobody's seriously saying that.

00:19:58.660 Very sad situation, but clearly justified.

00:20:01.680 And, and Trump, I just don't think he should be stoking this fire.

00:20:05.740 I think he's getting, I think he's getting some bad advice from people, okay?

00:20:11.120 And going into this election, you got to be strong, especially when you've got former allies stabbing you in the back like Neil Gorsuch.

00:20:18.400 You've got to be strong.

00:20:20.080 There was another police officer who, he was not involved in a killing.

00:20:24.920 He himself was shot in the head.

00:20:27.640 He was paralyzed on June 1st.

00:20:29.200 You probably haven't heard very much about him.

00:20:30.980 Where are the people coming out saying that's very disturbing?

00:20:33.660 I don't, I don't see very much of that.

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00:22:02.160 They always say this, suddenly turned violent, mostly peaceful protest where they're shooting 0.89

00:22:06.180 cops in the head.

00:22:07.100 This happened on June 1st.

00:22:08.540 He's paralyzed from the neck down.

00:22:10.740 Obviously never going to be able to work again.

00:22:13.140 He's lucky to be alive.

00:22:15.680 He's not the only one.

00:22:16.740 700 federal, state, and law enforcement, local law enforcement officers have had injuries

00:22:21.320 during clashes with all those peaceful rioters, according to Justice Department data.

00:22:25.700 700.

00:22:27.800 Where are we going to see that that's very disturbing imagery?

00:22:31.460 Where are we going to hear about that?

00:22:33.500 The left is pushing an outrageous propaganda battle right now.

00:22:38.780 I mean, you see it happening all the time because they call rioters and anarchists and

00:22:42.240 communists peaceful protesters.

00:22:44.040 We cannot give in, not even one little inch.

00:22:48.360 There is a lot at stake here, folks.

00:22:50.840 The conservative judge, quote unquote, just redefined sex from the bench.

00:22:55.920 Okay.

00:22:56.760 The stakes are very high here.

00:22:59.480 We cannot give an inch to the leftist narrative.

00:23:03.520 What's happening around the country?

00:23:04.960 Police are quitting and they should quit because they've got no backup whatsoever from any of

00:23:09.940 the elected politicians and they could have their lives ruined for just for doing their

00:23:13.860 job.

00:23:15.120 Down in Florida, in Hallandale Beach, Florida, the entire SWAT team just resigned.

00:23:21.680 They're going to remain on the force, but they just resigned.

00:23:23.520 They resigned because their department and their elected officials aren't going to back them

00:23:29.420 up.

00:23:29.560 They sent a memo of grievances to Chief Sonia Quinones of the Hallandale Beach Police saying

00:23:37.400 that, look, no hard feelings, but you're not going to back us up.

00:23:40.400 We can't risk our lives like this and our livelihoods and our reputations.

00:23:44.580 They're totally right.

00:23:45.820 Now, luckily, there is some good news on the other side.

00:23:48.640 Some people at least are going after some of the rioters and the criminals.

00:23:52.580 The DOJ has charged 50 of the peaceful rioters with crimes.

00:24:00.880 A lot of these crimes include arson.

00:24:03.800 It includes aiming a laser at a police aircraft.

00:24:07.400 It includes tossing Molotov cocktails into law enforcement vehicles and the windows of stores.

00:24:14.600 It includes toppling historically significant statues on federal land, right?

00:24:18.000 So, they've now charged 50 people.

00:24:22.560 Looking around at those riots, looks like there were more than 50 people doing bad things.

00:24:26.280 So, good.

00:24:26.720 50 down.

00:24:27.460 That's a good thing.

00:24:28.480 50,000 to go.

00:24:32.400 That's the situation that we're in right now.

00:24:35.220 It's only going to get more intense through the election and maybe even after the election.

00:24:41.980 You know, they always say, don't worry about what's happening on campuses because what's

00:24:46.880 happening on campuses, it's just these silly snowflakes.

00:24:49.200 When they get to the real world, things will change.

00:24:51.700 I don't think so.

00:24:52.760 I think actually the real world is acquiescing to the crazy snowflakes.

00:24:56.160 And we had another incident on campus.

00:24:58.680 There's a guy at Oklahoma State.

00:25:00.740 His name is Chubba Hubbard.

00:25:02.140 He's a football player, I take it.

00:25:04.020 I don't know anything about Oklahoma State football.

00:25:06.040 I don't know anything about Chubba Hubbard.

00:25:07.860 But Chubba Hubbard was very upset because the coach for the team was photographed wearing

00:25:16.920 an OAN t-shirt.

00:25:18.740 You know OAN.

00:25:19.300 I go on OAN all the time.

00:25:20.680 OAN is a conservative news channel.

00:25:22.520 President Trump loves OAN.

00:25:23.920 He tweets about how much he likes it.

00:25:26.160 Liz Wheeler is one of the hosts on OAN.

00:25:28.800 You know, we've had Liz Wheeler on this show. 1.00

00:25:30.620 So he's wearing the t-shirt of a conservative news channel.

00:25:33.320 And this player, this 21-year-old punk, Chubba Hubbard, tweets out, quote, I will not stand

00:25:41.240 for this.

00:25:42.320 This is completely insensitive to everything going on in society.

00:25:45.800 And it's unacceptable.

00:25:47.260 I will not be doing anything with Oklahoma State until things change.

00:25:50.380 Good.

00:25:50.720 I hope you don't.

00:25:51.360 I hope he doesn't do anything.

00:25:52.300 I hope his resignation from the team is not only accepted, but requested.

00:25:57.840 Because his behavior is outrageous.

00:25:59.680 And we're now at a point in this country where 21-year-old punks can

00:26:03.280 demand that their coaches get fired for wearing t-shirts that say, what, I like a conservative

00:26:08.600 news channel.

00:26:10.640 That could happen to any of us.

00:26:12.420 Any person who mentions, oh, you know, I watched Fox News the other day.

00:26:17.160 Oh, I watched OAN the other day.

00:26:19.340 Oh, I watched the Daily Wire the other day.

00:26:21.420 Right?

00:26:21.560 It could happen to any of us.

00:26:25.460 Of course, that's not really what happened, though.

00:26:27.720 They refused to take a hard line on this.

00:26:30.580 I thought they were going to fire the coach.

00:26:31.920 They didn't do that.

00:26:32.420 By the way, the guy, the kid, I don't even think he's American.

00:26:34.980 He's a Canadian.

00:26:36.320 He might also be American, but he grew up in Alberta, Canada.

00:26:39.680 So you've now got this Canadian guy coming down and trying to get Americans fired for

00:26:44.160 liking conservative TV channels.

00:26:47.160 You got a kind of forced apology from the coach yesterday.

00:26:50.780 This part was really humiliating.

00:26:52.360 In light of today's tweet with the t-shirt I was wearing, I met with some players and

00:26:59.920 realized it's a very sensitive issue with what's going on in today's society.

00:27:05.720 And so we had a great meeting and made aware of some things that players feel like that

00:27:11.140 can make our organization, our culture, even better than it is here at Oklahoma State.

00:27:15.420 And I'm looking forward to making some changes.

00:27:18.080 And it starts at the top with me.

00:27:19.800 And we got good days ahead.

00:27:22.260 Well, excuse me.

00:27:23.680 Sorry. 1.00

00:27:24.020 I just had to try to keep my morning coffee down watching that pathetic, pathetic example. 0.99

00:27:29.600 Now, at least the coach didn't apologize for wearing the t-shirt of a conservative news 1.00

00:27:35.780 channel.

00:27:36.200 I guess then we'd all have to apologize.

00:27:37.440 Any of you, anybody watching on the Daily Wire or listening on the Daily Wire or reading

00:27:41.780 the Daily Wire would have to apologize like they did something wrong.

00:27:45.040 But so fortunately he didn't go quite that far, but he said he's going to change and he

00:27:48.180 realizes it's sensitive.

00:27:49.080 What's sensitive?

00:27:49.880 Wear the t-shirt.

00:27:51.440 There's nothing sensitive about wearing that t-shirt.

00:27:53.980 You don't need to change anything about wearing that t-shirt.

00:27:56.160 What needs to change is this presumptuous punk trying to get you fired for having a political 1.00

00:28:01.840 view that he disagrees with.

00:28:03.980 Now, that presumptuous punk for his end did also sort of apologize in the second part of

00:28:10.200 this video, which was much better than the first part of this video.

00:28:13.800 I'll start off by first saying that I went about it the wrong way by tweeting.

00:28:18.840 I'm not someone that, you know, has to tweet something to break chains.

00:28:22.720 I should have went to him as a man and I'm more about action.

00:28:26.740 So that was bad on my part.

00:28:28.560 But from now on, we're going to focus on bringing change.

00:28:31.440 And that's the most important thing.

00:28:35.840 Okay.

00:28:36.340 Until the last like three words, I actually really liked this.

00:28:39.900 He's right.

00:28:40.580 He shouldn't have sent that tweet.

00:28:42.340 If he had a problem with the coach, he should have gone to the coach like a man. 1.00

00:28:45.420 It's bad.

00:28:46.200 That's on him.

00:28:46.860 Okay, I actually, I give the kid credit for saying all those things.

00:28:51.400 Not sure he wanted to say those things.

00:28:53.120 Clearly someone was filming it, but at least he did it.

00:28:55.600 He gets credit for that.

00:28:56.680 But then at the end, he goes, we're going to make change.

00:28:58.920 What change?

00:28:59.320 What change?

00:28:59.820 That's the most important thing.

00:29:00.840 No, the most important thing is for you to play football and maybe go to class a few

00:29:03.880 times and get your degree.

00:29:05.900 You're a student athlete.

00:29:08.520 Do that.

00:29:09.420 Be a student.

00:29:10.240 Learn things.

00:29:11.860 Throw the ball.

00:29:12.360 Then when you graduate, if you want to run for the Senate, go run for the Senate.

00:29:17.840 That's fine.

00:29:18.860 These days, frankly, that kid will probably, it's probably better than half the senators,

00:29:22.400 which is really unfortunate.

00:29:24.500 But college football, college sports is not the place to do that.

00:29:30.640 Not every aspect of society needs to be hopelessly politicized and ginned up to level 11. 0.99

00:29:37.440 Not everything you do, not wearing a stupid t-shirt of a, of a TV channel you like, 0.99

00:29:42.000 needs to be a major political statement where you could lose your job for it. 0.99

00:29:46.380 Okay.

00:29:48.020 The way they've left this is basically at a truce.

00:29:51.360 They should have left it if we wanted to actually have a decent effect on the culture

00:29:55.200 where the coach was totally right and the kid was booted from the team.

00:30:00.480 But that's probably not going to happen because we're living in a radical place.

00:30:03.640 So radical that CHAZ, the autonomous zone of Seattle, is now changing its name to CHOP,

00:30:08.640 which really gives me a lot of French Revolution vibes.

00:30:10.540 I don't know about you.

00:30:11.040 We'll get to that in one second.

00:30:12.420 We'll get to more radical proposals.

00:30:14.560 But first, I got to thank you for, one, making my Michael Null Show YouTube channel

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00:31:35.920 CHAZ.

00:31:36.440 The Autonomous Principality of CHAZ, which is that six block anarchist zone in Seattle,

00:31:44.860 stands for the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, has changed its name to CHOP, which is a little

00:31:50.900 more honest to me when they start bringing in the guillotines.

00:31:53.720 CHOP stands for Capitol Hill Organized Protest.

00:31:59.800 Why did they change the name?

00:32:01.160 I kid you not.

00:32:01.920 They changed the name so that they could keep getting welfare checks.

00:32:06.440 People, people familiar with the situation have said this was a big reason why they changed

00:32:11.680 the name, because if you're an autonomous state, an autonomous country, then you're not allowed

00:32:17.400 to get welfare checks from other countries.

00:32:19.680 I guess you could get foreign aid, which is sort of a welfare check from our country, and

00:32:22.860 we give it to way too many people, but probably CHAZ wasn't going to get too much foreign aid.

00:32:28.340 So they changed it to CHOP so they can keep getting their welfare checks and their food stamps

00:32:32.340 and all the government goodies from the United States, all the while protesting the United

00:32:39.540 States.

00:32:41.020 They also were a little worried that by declaring themselves an autonomous country, it would

00:32:46.080 give the federal government more of an opportunity to crack down on them, whereas if they're just

00:32:50.120 saying it's a protest, then the government won't crack down.

00:32:52.320 Government should crack down.

00:32:53.420 This has gone on too long, okay?

00:32:55.280 And conservatives always play it slow.

00:32:59.960 They play it soft.

00:33:02.160 I'll give you an example.

00:33:03.260 In, in the courts, the left says we're going to, we're going to put up leftist judges who

00:33:09.120 are going to give us leftist outcomes, and we're going to ask them case by case how they

00:33:14.180 would rule, and we're going to get good leftists.

00:33:17.520 Leftists never put up a judge and then accidentally get a conservative.

00:33:21.200 Conservatives often put up judges and accidentally get leftists and liberals.

00:33:25.880 Because we do it all, we go so backwards.

00:33:28.560 We say, okay, we're going to put up judges who, they're not conservative, but they're

00:33:31.940 going to give us a, an outcome that is, you know, it's based on this other judicial philosophy,

00:33:37.000 and we might not always like the outcomes, but it'll, it'll be good, and we actually can't

00:33:41.560 ask them about any cases and how they would rule, but hopefully they'll be okay, and so

00:33:46.400 anyway, let's hope everything works out for the best.

00:33:49.000 And then you get David Souter, a turncoat Republican appointed judge who became a liberal.

00:33:57.740 You get Sandra Day O'Connor, ditter.

00:33:59.840 You get John, ditter, ditter, ditto.

00:34:01.940 You get John Roberts, ditto.

00:34:05.000 You get Kennedy, ditto.

00:34:08.500 You get Neil Gorsuch, ditto.

00:34:10.540 It happens time and time again.

00:34:13.640 We, we don't use force.

00:34:15.460 We get this radical movement like BLM, which is openly founded by Marxists, BLM, which is

00:34:22.060 based on a lie, the lie of Ferguson, that, that Michael Brown was executed in Ferguson

00:34:27.660 with his hands up saying, don't shoot, completely contradicted by grand jury, by eyewitnesses,

00:34:32.160 by black eyewitnesses, by the multiple autopsies, by everything, still based on this lie.

00:34:37.980 And some conservatives say, well, we should try to come to an understanding with it.

00:34:41.380 No, there's no understanding.

00:34:42.560 You're buying into the lie that BLM is about black lives mattering. 0.74

00:34:46.500 It's not.

00:34:47.740 You're buying into the lie that these are peaceful protesters.

00:34:50.180 They're not.

00:34:50.960 They're rioters who created their own autonomous country.

00:34:53.780 You're buying into the lie that it's an organized protest.

00:34:56.080 Go in there with force and stop them from occupying streets.

00:35:02.180 They're, we're now getting word that they're, they're running an extortion racket on businesses

00:35:05.420 in the area.

00:35:06.180 That's not fair.

00:35:07.260 We know that they're, they're using unjust force on other people.

00:35:11.180 We know that they're, that these rioters have been attacking people, burning down buildings,

00:35:17.080 murdering people.

00:35:18.280 Stop it. 0.98

00:35:19.020 Stop allowing this to happen.

00:35:21.640 Use force.

00:35:22.620 No middle ground.

00:35:23.440 Stand in the middle of the road.

00:35:24.620 You're going to get hit by a truck.

00:35:26.560 A lot more radicalism coming down the pike on other policies as well.

00:35:30.860 Here's one proposal. 1.00

00:35:32.180 This one, this might be the stupidest proposal I've seen in weeks, in, in weeks of many stupid 1.00

00:35:37.440 proposals, which is to reduce the work week to four days because Americans right now, you 1.00

00:35:43.620 know, they're just too overworked.

00:35:45.740 Well, we have thousands and thousands of people pouring out into the streets, just burning

00:35:50.120 stuff because they've got nothing else to do.

00:35:52.080 Well, you've got millions and millions of people who were thrown out of their jobs.

00:35:55.460 Because some people on the left, some geniuses like Andrew Yang, think that the bigger problem

00:36:01.220 in America is that we are overworked.

00:36:03.040 Here's Mr. Yang's proposal for a four-day work week.

00:36:06.600 Right now, our work week is getting longer, not shorter.

00:36:11.300 And it's having a disastrous set of effects on millions of people where we have this mental

00:36:19.820 health crisis that we talked about last week.

00:36:21.600 Um, we, we have, uh, this worship of work, workism, um, and, uh, we're sleep deprived.

00:36:30.240 I mean, you can name it.

00:36:30.960 They're like all these stacked effects, uh, and it's getting worse.

00:36:34.540 Now, economists like Keynes projected we'd have a 15 hour work week by now because we'd

00:36:39.940 be so wealthy.

00:36:40.940 And it turns out he was right about the level of wealth.

00:36:44.120 Like, like that, that line was correct.

00:36:46.940 Um, but he obviously got the number of hours in the work week very wrong because it's been

00:36:51.240 getting longer, not shorter, um, here in the U S.

00:36:54.460 Uh, and Barack Obama actually said to me that we should be looking at a shorter work week

00:36:58.100 because, uh, firms aren't going to, um, employ people in the same way that they have previously.

00:37:05.660 So here's my tip off that this is a bad idea is that Barack Obama is wrong about everything.

00:37:10.980 And then my next tip off that this is a bad idea is that John Maynard Keynes, the economist

00:37:15.740 is wrong about everything.

00:37:17.880 And then my third tip off that this is a bad idea is that Andrew Yang is wrong about everything.

00:37:25.140 What they get wrong is they think it's bad for man to work.

00:37:29.520 They think work is this awful punishment.

00:37:31.520 And if we could cure work, if we could fix having to work, that would be so much better

00:37:35.860 for human flourishing.

00:37:37.100 And they're wrong.

00:37:38.020 We were made to work.

00:37:39.820 We were made to work.

00:37:40.680 The earliest chapters of Genesis, we work by the sweat of our brow.

00:37:46.260 We shall earn our keep.

00:37:49.060 Even before Adam was kicked out of the garden, he is working.

00:37:52.100 He's gardening, you know, he's naming things.

00:37:54.380 We have to do things.

00:37:55.600 When you don't do things, you become a couch potato and you get depressed and you get a

00:38:00.640 little radicalized maybe, and you go out into the street and burn things.

00:38:04.360 If anything, we need a longer work week.

00:38:06.400 Okay.

00:38:06.660 But I think we can settle on the compromise of keeping the current work week we have and

00:38:10.520 getting people back to work because a lot of the civil unrest, as it is called, a lot

00:38:15.260 of the riots and the burning and the arson, I think is because we've told people that they

00:38:19.200 can't work now for three months.

00:38:21.300 It's idle hands or the devil's playground.

00:38:23.580 And it's no surprise to me that Barack Obama would be encouraging that kind of thing.

00:38:27.580 A lot of other left-wing groups pushing this idea.

00:38:30.700 NBC was pushing this idea that the four-day work week is what we need.

00:38:34.020 It's not.

00:38:35.080 I think part of the reason they're pushing it in some ways is so that they can keep the

00:38:37.880 economy depressed until the election.

00:38:39.320 But part of it is because they misunderstand human nature and we can't permit that.

00:38:45.140 All right.

00:38:45.340 We have, we got Chaz, now Chop.

00:38:47.700 We got Chop, not because people are overworked, but because they are underworked.

00:38:52.700 Okay.

00:38:53.140 I don't think those guys running Chop right now are slaving away at the coal mines too often.

00:38:58.940 We got this stuff.

00:39:00.180 We got these riots because we are indulging vagrants and radicals. 0.75

00:39:03.820 Some people need a stern talking to. 1.00

00:39:05.680 Okay.

00:39:06.220 A lot of people need a stern talking to, like the people in Chop, like that student athlete,

00:39:14.100 like Neil Gorsuch in the conservative judicial movement.

00:39:17.520 We need to get a little tougher, folks.

00:39:19.560 Okay.

00:39:20.100 The answer right now is not to go weak at the knees.

00:39:23.060 There was a woman in Chop, actually, who showed this perfectly. 0.98

00:39:27.860 This woman, I want her to run for Senate. 1.00

00:39:29.820 I don't know who she is.

00:39:30.680 I don't know what her name is.

00:39:31.740 I love her.

00:39:33.040 She's inside the Chop neighborhood.

00:39:34.840 She's a black woman. 1.00

00:39:36.200 She's talking to a white liberal woman. 0.99

00:39:38.780 And this white liberal woman, presumably, before the cameras turned on, was espousing 1.00

00:39:44.020 her stupid radical ideas. 1.00

00:39:45.960 And then this young black woman was just slowly explaining to this white liberal woman why 1.00

00:39:51.120 everything she thought is wrong. 0.65

00:39:53.480 I would be in the same position you're in, so I'm not even mad at you, baby.

00:39:57.020 I don't want to see any news because it's all.

00:39:59.440 Oh, fake news.

00:40:00.200 This is the thing.

00:40:01.300 I know people don't like Trump.

00:40:03.000 I understand that.

00:40:03.880 But let me tell you something.

00:40:05.000 If I had to pick between him and Joe Biden, I'm not voting in Joe Biden. 0.94

00:40:09.260 These Democrats, and I'm sorry to say this, I'm not trying to be racist, but they hate 1.00

00:40:12.860 black people. 0.99

00:40:13.640 These are the same people who have fought to keep slavery in. 0.98

00:40:16.360 These are the same people who built the KKK. 0.74

00:40:18.940 These are the same people who hated us from the beginning.

00:40:21.260 But all of that history has been torn away.

00:40:22.940 People say, oh, there was this big switch.

00:40:24.740 There was never a big switch. 0.96

00:40:26.380 So the same Democrats who hated black people from the beginning are the same ones who hate 0.90

00:40:30.320 us now. 0.95

00:40:30.920 And they use our cards.

00:40:32.400 How did Black Lives Matter turn into something about LGBTQ?

00:40:35.660 When blacks really don't support that, we're conservative. 0.88

00:40:38.340 We're really not about that.

00:40:39.860 Not only that, we don't support abortion.

00:40:41.740 We're about working.

00:40:42.500 But this is the black culture. 1.00

00:40:44.520 We ain't even about that.

00:40:45.700 Not only that, we're not about feminism.

00:40:47.240 No, we're not.

00:40:47.580 Black women marry their husbands and respect their husbands. 0.97

00:40:50.100 That's what we're on.

00:40:51.140 We're not on this.

00:40:51.940 Oh, I do what I want.

00:40:53.280 We don't do that.

00:40:54.600 That's not our community.

00:40:55.780 And you and I just stand.

00:40:56.780 I know you understand what I'm saying.

00:40:58.060 We don't do that.

00:40:59.240 But yet these people are hijacking our movement and the Democratic Party.

00:41:02.800 They're trying to hijack our stuff.

00:41:04.480 No.

00:41:05.440 Be still my beating heart.

00:41:06.860 Oh my gosh.

00:41:07.560 When she gets to the sexual revolution and feminism, be still my beating heart. 1.00

00:41:11.260 She makes a really great point here.

00:41:12.780 I mean, I encourage you to watch.

00:41:13.900 There are a number of videos of her.

00:41:15.300 We don't have time to play the whole thing.

00:41:17.620 She makes this really great point, which is white liberals and white leftist radicals

00:41:23.760 are foisting a lot of radicalism on the black community, so-called, that really historically

00:41:31.140 has no place there.

00:41:33.280 Think about the LGBT movement, getting back to our Supreme Court decision earlier in the show.

00:41:39.100 Don't forget, the way that we got gay marriage, meaning the radical redefinition of marriage 1.00

00:41:45.380 from what it had never meant to now this new thing, we didn't get it through voting.

00:41:50.300 Why didn't we get it through voting?

00:41:51.280 They tried to do it through voting.

00:41:52.540 Remember, they did Prop 8 in California.

00:41:56.140 And part of the reason that the redefinition of marriage was defeated on that ballot initiative

00:42:01.660 is because black voters overwhelmingly turned out against it.

00:42:07.600 For many, many years, black voters did not support redefining marriage.

00:42:12.660 They did not support the kind of radical sexual revolutionary leftism that you saw mostly from

00:42:18.760 white activists.

00:42:19.980 Same thing with feminism. 1.00

00:42:21.140 I love when she goes, yeah, listen, white liberal ladies, your whole thing of like feminism's great 1.00

00:42:25.400 and, you know, I'm going to do what I want and we're not going to have any sort of respectful

00:42:29.880 relations between the sexes.

00:42:31.220 We don't do that.

00:42:32.200 That's not, that's not what we do.

00:42:34.580 And her point is well taken.

00:42:37.460 I don't know if it's well taken by the white liberal lady, but it is well taken by everyone 1.00

00:42:42.940 else.

00:42:43.200 This point she makes on abortion.

00:42:44.660 It is true, but black women are disproportionately likely to have abortions now. 1.00

00:42:49.400 But that is by design.

00:42:50.860 There, the, the abortion movement that began in the early 20th century in earnest specifically

00:42:57.140 targeted black communities.

00:42:58.780 There is a reason why Planned Parenthood disproportionately sets up shop in black communities. 0.99

00:43:04.260 There has been a plan, okay?

00:43:07.080 And I, I, what this woman is recognizing, she says, this is bad.

00:43:10.840 We should not, I don't, we don't want to be killing our children.

00:43:14.800 This is a bad idea.

00:43:16.280 This has been bad for our community.

00:43:18.360 Anyway, a little tough talk goes a long way.

00:43:21.660 Trump made this point in the eighties.

00:43:22.900 He took out a whole ad in the New York times.

00:43:24.820 I think it was in the times or the post or maybe both where he said, he was actually criticizing

00:43:29.780 Reagan's foreign policy.

00:43:30.960 And he said, you got to get tough.

00:43:32.540 A little bit of toughness goes a long way.

00:43:34.980 Okay.

00:43:35.240 It'll solves a lot of problems.

00:43:37.960 Now is not the time for conservatives at the federal state or local at the legislative

00:43:44.000 executive or judicial level to go soft.

00:43:46.780 We are at a fever pitch right now and it's going to get even tougher through November.

00:43:54.420 Do not go soft.

00:43:55.860 Buckle down.

00:43:56.500 This is the fight.

00:43:57.700 And every time we lose one of these episodes, we see that ground very likely forever, at least

00:44:04.980 for the foreseeable future.

00:44:06.320 That's why this ruling from the Supreme Court was so devastating.

00:44:08.640 We sat down for quite a while with my friend, John Bursch, who was the lead lawyer on the

00:44:15.840 Harris Funeral Home case.

00:44:17.920 We sat down with him yesterday.

00:44:19.280 Here's just a quick clip of that.

00:44:20.320 You can see the rest of it in my YouTube channel.

00:44:21.900 The point, I guess, of that case is that there's a conflict between traditional sexual protections

00:44:29.800 and gender ideology. 0.99

00:44:31.860 Meaning, if you've got protections on the basis of sex, then that could be interpreted to protect

00:44:37.220 women from, say, men interfering in their institutions. 0.87

00:44:40.560 But if you interpret sex to mean sexual identity, then that completely undermines the purpose

00:44:47.060 of those sex protections.

00:44:48.760 Because all of a sudden, then men are allowed to interfere in those institutions and actually

00:44:53.380 they're totally entitled to by that interpretation.

00:44:58.160 Now, I know this is a separate case.

00:44:59.600 We're not talking about girls' sports here.

00:45:01.060 We're talking about employment.

00:45:02.660 But what is the effect of this going to be?

00:45:04.480 I mean, it seems like we can't have two standards running against one another forever.

00:45:08.920 No, you can't.

00:45:10.900 And you can bet that activists are going to take this ruling and try to apply it in the

00:45:14.540 Title IX context and in other cases.

00:45:17.040 For those of your listeners who aren't familiar with some of that litigation, there's a number

00:45:20.340 of cases pending.

00:45:21.560 But the first one, the one that's farthest along in the federal court system, is in Connecticut,

00:45:25.660 where three women sued because two men identifying as women have won 15 state track and field

00:45:31.800 titles in the girls' division over the last two seasons.

00:45:34.580 A shocker there that when boys are allowed to run against girls, they typically win. 0.80

00:45:37.860 And when they went to Title IX officials, they were told that girls have the right to participate,

00:45:42.540 but not the right to win.

00:45:44.180 Now, no one who enacted Title IX as kind of the penultimate law to ensure equal opportunity

00:45:50.600 for women and girls in sports would have ever thought that's what Title IX meant. 0.94

00:45:54.740 And yet under the court's ruling today, that's exactly where we are.

00:45:58.440 So now this question of sex is all of a sudden in question, which no one would have imagined

00:46:03.820 when these statutes were passed.

00:46:05.020 And what's so tragic about this is that in real life, you don't see very many cases at

00:46:11.300 all of businesses or schools or anybody else using their ideas about marriage and sex to

00:46:17.480 punish people.

00:46:18.260 It's always the other way around.

00:46:19.800 Activists take these laws, they weaponize them, and then they use them to punish anybody

00:46:23.900 who has a different view.

00:46:25.320 And we should all be able to agree that biology is not bigotry.

00:46:28.800 And believing that a man, based on physiology, biology, can't change, is not discrimination.

00:46:36.180 And similarly, that marriage between man and one woman is not discrimination.

00:46:39.640 In all other areas, our culture purportedly embraces diversity.

00:46:43.260 But in these areas, people are continually trying to shut down those views, and this court decision

00:46:47.980 is only going to add to that conflict.

00:46:50.080 Biology is not bigotry.

00:46:51.800 That is a very good line, because one thing I've noticed today is you see a lot of left

00:46:57.460 wingers, and frankly, even some people who would call themselves on the right, saying,

00:47:01.520 oh, who cares about this?

00:47:02.780 What, you know, I'm sorry for you, that now you can't discriminate against homosexuals and

00:47:08.640 transgender people, but get with the program.

00:47:11.080 It's 2020. 1.00

00:47:12.260 Stop being so hateful.

00:47:13.800 Stop being so bigoted.

00:47:15.300 What are we supposed to say to accusations like that?

00:47:18.860 Well, they love to pull out the hateful and bigoted thing, because that gets people to

00:47:23.400 their opinion, and it also forces others who are worried about public recriminations to

00:47:27.680 just be silent, when they really shouldn't be.

00:47:30.300 Despite what the Supreme Court said today, it said in Obergefell that people who hold the

00:47:34.720 belief that marriage is between one man and one woman is honorable, and has been logical 0.92

00:47:39.740 and based on sound principles for thousands of years.

00:47:42.240 Likewise, someone who believes that sex is immutable and based on physiology, you know,

00:47:47.380 that's a common sense, science-based proposition.

00:47:50.760 And don't even get me into the left and how they embrace science while rejecting science

00:47:54.880 at every step of the way.

00:47:55.800 When it's convenient.

00:47:56.380 When it's convenient.

00:47:56.900 When it's convenient.

00:47:57.940 You know, so what we need to do is do a much better job explaining to the rest of society,

00:48:02.520 the rest of culture, why we hold those beliefs, why men who are born men remain men, and

00:48:07.180 the same for women, why marriage is between one man and one woman. 1.00

00:48:09.880 And when we can communicate the logic behind those ideas, people will hopefully start to

00:48:15.060 understand that we come from those positions out of sound, reasonable thinking, out of natural

00:48:20.880 law principles, out of science and biology, and ultimately what's wanting, what's best

00:48:26.060 for every human individual.

00:48:28.040 That if you hold those beliefs, it's all about protecting human dignity, not about rejecting

00:48:32.700 it.

00:48:33.280 And so we have to just dismiss those who malign those views as being hateful and bigoted because

00:48:38.880 it's their views and their attempt to shut down everybody from talking about this in

00:48:42.760 the public square.

00:48:43.440 That is the real hatred.

00:48:46.620 Biology is not bigotry, except now, according to the Supreme Court, according to the conservative

00:48:53.440 judge who replaced Antonin Scalia, it is.

00:48:58.320 Big setback.

00:49:00.380 Very tough time for conservatives.

00:49:02.320 And with judges like that, you have to wonder, what are we conserving?

00:49:07.840 And how much longer will there be anything to conserve?

00:49:11.840 Lots of important questions as we head into November.

00:49:14.720 And as we head into tomorrow, we'll have a lot more in the meantime.

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The Michael Knowles Show - June 16, 2020

Ep. 563 - The Judges Won’t Save Us

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