The Michael Knowles Show - November 13, 2017


Ep. 57 - Roy Moore Chooses Now To Live As A Gay Man


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Gloria Allred gives a blistering press conference defending Roy Moore, who has been accused of molesting a 15-year-old beauty pageant queen when she was working as a waitress in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

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00:00:37.560 The accusations against besieged Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore have reached sufficient fever pitch to attract blood-sucking harpy Gloria Allred.
00:00:46.620 Brutal new testimony just this hour from an alleged victim.
00:00:49.820 That said, Moore's attackers on the left have one intractable, desiccated, undead obstacle to their moralizing.
00:00:56.980 Hillary Clinton, my third cousin once removed.
00:00:59.480 We will analyze love in the time of fake news.
00:01:02.060 Then, roaming millennial Amber Athey and Paul Bois, his eminence himself, join the panel of deplorables to discuss short, fat Kim Jong-un,
00:01:10.680 why you should boycott Keurig, and a New York Times writer's passionate defense of racial segregation.
00:01:16.580 The New York Times is a former newspaper now, a former newspaper tomorrow, a former newspaper forever.
00:01:22.620 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:24.380 That Gloria Allred press conference came out about 20 minutes ago, came out as we were ready to go on air.
00:01:37.360 There is a woman who's now alleging that when she was 15, she was molested by Roy Moore.
00:01:43.200 It was a sexual assault.
00:01:44.500 There was nothing consensual about it.
00:01:46.020 So this leaves Roy Moore with only one option.
00:01:49.100 He has to come out as gay. 0.98
00:01:50.460 He has to choose now to live as a gay man. 0.98
00:01:53.520 We will have Christopher Plummer replace him as the Republican nominee in Alabama.
00:01:58.920 I think that's the only way that we can handle this and still possibly win this seat.
00:02:02.640 Plummer, 2017.
00:02:04.560 That's the way to do it.
00:02:05.900 There's your writing campaign right there.
00:02:08.820 This all-red presser, if you haven't seen it, is savage.
00:02:13.680 It is brutal.
00:02:15.200 The Democrats have played this opposition research perfectly with accusations that haven't come out for 40 years.
00:02:22.680 They've just played it right up to the election.
00:02:24.740 They've built up.
00:02:25.520 They've let him bury himself.
00:02:27.380 And this is really rough.
00:02:28.780 The woman's name is Beverly Young Nelson.
00:02:31.780 She says that when she was 15, she was a beauty pageant queen who was working at a diner.
00:02:37.660 And Roy Moore would come in there.
00:02:39.360 He was the DA for the county at the time.
00:02:41.460 He would come in.
00:02:41.980 He was always hitting on her, asking her to go out with him.
00:02:44.620 She said no.
00:02:45.720 One time, he waited for her to leave the restaurant and offered to give her a ride home because her boyfriend wasn't there.
00:02:52.460 According to this woman, he drove her around back where there were no lights and made a move, tried to lock the door, fondled her.
00:02:58.400 Eventually, she said no, fought back long enough, that she fell out of the car. 0.71
00:03:04.800 He pushed her out of the car and said, you're just a child.
00:03:07.780 I'm the DA.
00:03:08.520 No one will ever believe you.
00:03:09.680 Your mother will never believe you.
00:03:12.260 Apparently, her sister attests to this at the time, some friends.
00:03:17.440 She and her husband, crucially, voted for Trump.
00:03:20.540 So this is one point she said, I'm willing to go under oath on this.
00:03:23.760 This isn't a Republican-Democrat thing.
00:03:25.440 I and my husband both voted for Trump.
00:03:28.180 This is really, really bad, much worse than the Washington Post story, much worse than unnamed women, some women on the record, some women off, alleging weird conduct when they were 16 or 17 or 18.
00:03:42.520 This is brutal.
00:03:44.120 It's graphic.
00:03:44.900 It's going to be run on every TV in Alabama for the next few weeks.
00:03:48.440 Mitch McConnell, by the way, before this press conference, had already called for Roy Moore to drop out of the race.
00:03:54.380 The White House has backed off of Roy Moore.
00:03:56.340 You'll remember, Trump didn't endorse Roy Moore in the primary.
00:03:59.480 He endorsed Luther Strange, the primary opponent.
00:04:01.880 Here is Moore defending himself.
00:04:04.040 Now, this clip is from before the Gloria Allred presser today, but I imagine he won't really change his tune very much.
00:04:10.900 This is Roy Moore's defense.
00:04:12.680 The Washington Post established, or published, rather, yet another attack on my character and reputation in a desperate attempt to stop my political campaign for the United States Senate.
00:04:25.440 These attacks involve a minor, and they are completely false and untrue.
00:04:31.160 I want to make it clear to the media present and to the people present.
00:04:35.780 I have not provided alcohol, beverages, alcoholic beverages, beer, or anything else to a minor.
00:04:44.040 I have not been guilty of sexual misconduct with anyone.
00:04:48.480 I've been investigated more than any other person in this country.
00:04:52.720 To think that grown women would wait 40 years to come before, right before an election, to bring charges is absolutely unbelievable. 0.61
00:05:06.280 The Democrats and the Republican establishment know the importance of this election.
00:05:24.080 In fact, most people in America know the importance of this election.
00:05:27.780 They see it as a prelude to the elections coming in 2018.
00:05:33.320 It may very well determine the future of our country.
00:05:37.780 My opponent is 11 points behind that came out just days before this article came out.
00:05:44.420 They're desperate.
00:05:46.680 This article is a prime example of fake news.
00:05:50.120 Fake news.
00:05:51.160 That's Roy Moore's story, and he's sticking to it.
00:05:53.320 But a decent enough defense, what else is he going to say?
00:05:56.820 He can't cop to it.
00:05:57.760 Then he loses the race.
00:05:58.920 He can't drop out now.
00:06:00.440 No one's going to win in his place.
00:06:02.120 It'll just go to Democrats.
00:06:03.660 So he's saying this is all fake news, and don't worry about it.
00:06:06.560 A much harder case to make now that we have a woman on the record who's apparently a Republican, apparently a Trump voter,
00:06:11.900 who's coming out and making these accusations. 0.83
00:06:14.060 Now, Gloria Allred is not the only blood-sucking harpy involved in all of this. 1.00
00:06:17.840 There is one intractical problem for Democrats, and that is Hillary Clinton. 1.00
00:06:22.380 So Chris Hayes stopped clock his right twice a day.
00:06:26.060 MSNBC Chris Hayes came out and tweeted this over the weekend.
00:06:28.780 Quote, 0.95
00:06:29.360 As gross and cynical and hypocritical as the right's what-about-Bill-Clinton stuff is,
00:06:34.880 it's also true that Democrats in the center-left are overdue for a real reckoning with the allegations against him. 0.96
00:06:41.640 Read this account.
00:06:42.600 He's talking about Juanita Broderick.
00:06:44.380 In light of all we've been hearing and reading this last month, and ask yourself if it is credible.
00:06:50.040 Now, he's talking about this accusation by a woman named Juanita Broderick that says that Bill Clinton raped her decades ago,
00:06:57.920 and Hillary knew about it, and Hillary pressured her to keep quiet.
00:07:01.420 And this has come out for years with the Clintons.
00:07:05.020 Now we have Democrats finally copping and saying, well, maybe that's the case.
00:07:09.480 Why are they doing it?
00:07:10.240 It might be true that they want to get Hillary out of here.
00:07:12.440 They're pulling it down in Brazil.
00:07:13.520 They want to toss her under the bus, get rid of Hillary Clinton as fast as we can, move on to better pastures for 2020. 1.00
00:07:19.320 But if that's the case, it takes the wind out of their sails of all of their moralizing.
00:07:23.800 They've been saying, oh, we can—how could you possibly not call for Roy Moore to get out of the race, to drop out, to go away?
00:07:30.400 This was before the most recent accusations, when it was just a Washington Post story.
00:07:34.880 How could you not?
00:07:35.480 It's awful.
00:07:36.120 We're the moral voice of America.
00:07:37.940 But just a year ago, they tried to make a woman who pressured and intimidated and bullied and smeared her husband's alleged rape victims. 1.00
00:07:47.240 They tried to make her president. 1.00
00:07:48.720 So much for all that moralizing.
00:07:50.320 Where's that high horse?
00:07:51.300 Where was all that moralism a year ago when you were trying to make that woman who's accused of worse things when you were trying to make her president?
00:07:58.280 You know, the guy I blame most in all of this—obviously, we can go back and forth.
00:08:02.260 The Clinton thing is a really nice tool at the right's disposal because we can say, well, look, folks, political races are complicated, and, you know, there are more reasons than just accusations from 40 years ago.
00:08:13.260 To vote for a guy, probably that argument's not going to hold anymore after the most recent presser in accusations, but we'll see what happens.
00:08:20.320 The guy I blame most in all of this is Luther Strange, the primary opponent that Trump endorsed and the establishment endorsed in Alabama.
00:08:28.280 He failed as a campaign.
00:08:30.300 His campaign failed to dig up all of this dirt.
00:08:33.120 Unless all of these accusations are totally fabricated—and, again, I wouldn't put it past Democrats to totally fabricate accusations weeks before an election when you're down by double digits.
00:08:42.900 But unless they are totally fabricated, Luther Strange blew it because he could have found all of this.
00:08:48.860 I've been to meetings like this.
00:08:50.260 You go to the other campaign.
00:08:51.300 You say, we have this information.
00:08:52.740 They say, okay.
00:08:53.260 They decide whether or not to drop out.
00:08:54.660 If they don't privately drop out, then you release the information.
00:08:58.480 It goes public.
00:08:59.460 And then you see what's happening to Roy Moore now would have happened months ago.
00:09:03.680 The Strange campaign didn't do it.
00:09:05.180 It's really frustrating.
00:09:06.120 We might lose the Senate seat now.
00:09:07.640 It looks like we're probably going to.
00:09:09.580 Really, really awful.
00:09:11.700 And all of this said, sex scandals are a hallmark of American politics.
00:09:15.080 I think it's easy to say, well, now what has happened?
00:09:19.420 Trump has reduced the nation to rubble, or Bill Clinton has reduced the nation to rubble, or now we have all these sex scandals.
00:09:25.500 But it used to be so nice, and we'd court people, and it was hunky-dory and gentlemanly and chivalrous.
00:09:30.000 Not true.
00:09:31.440 Sex scandals have been a hallmark of American politics since the beginning.
00:09:35.340 Alexander Hamilton, Washington's aide to camp and the founder of the Treasury Department, he cuckled in a man named James Reynolds in 1791.
00:09:43.680 This came out.
00:09:44.880 It damaged his political career.
00:09:46.480 A mid-19th century South Carolina senator from the Nullifier Party had a gay relationship in college, and then he had a little dalliance, as he said, with his two teenage nieces.
00:09:56.280 He couldn't run for re-election the next time, but he was re-elected to the Senate a few years later. 0.85
00:10:00.000 Senator David Walsh, a Democrat from Massachusetts, visited gay Nazi brothels. 0.98
00:10:04.820 In America, you can go to gay brothels, you can go to Nazi brothels. 0.99
00:10:07.220 You cannot go to gay Nazi brothels. 1.00
00:10:08.960 That's a step too far. 0.99
00:10:09.840 Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas was thrice married, cheated on all of the wives, and molested airline stewardesses.
00:10:16.640 There's nothing really new about all of this.
00:10:19.160 That said, it's going to have consequences, and this might have been the nail in the coffin for Mr. Moore.
00:10:24.480 Now, we've got to analyze all of this.
00:10:26.720 We have to bring on Roaming Millennial with us since the beginning, Roaming Millennial, to give us expert advice.
00:10:32.380 Amber Athey from The Daily Caller, and his eminence, the one and only Paul Cardinal Bois.
00:10:37.920 Panel, thank you for being here.
00:10:39.300 I appreciate it.
00:10:40.880 Thanks for having us.
00:10:41.760 My pleasure.
00:10:42.640 Roaming, is Roy Moore finished?
00:10:45.740 I'm having a lot of trouble with this.
00:10:48.020 I'm someone who thought it was extremely hypocritical when, during the election, Democrats turned a blind eye to Bill Clinton.
00:10:53.440 And I also was someone who was very skeptical about a lot of the allegations that were coming out against Trump.
00:10:58.940 With that being said, I'm trying to look at this fairly and objectively and not see more as a Republican, but rather just someone who's having all of these allegations against him that, you know, right now are hearsay.
00:11:10.500 But, I mean, it's not just one person at this point.
00:11:13.460 I don't think it's good for the Republican image if he stays in this race and if people continue to stand by him.
00:11:21.020 And this isn't to say that I think he's definitely guilty.
00:11:23.560 I don't think we should abandon presumption of innocence just because this is a political matter.
00:11:28.500 And, you know, we're fighting for the elections in 2018.
00:11:32.380 But at the same time, yeah, this doesn't look good.
00:11:34.640 And for a lot of people, Republicans already have the image, whether it's true or not, I don't think it's true, of being soft on men who sexually harass and sexually abuse women.
00:11:44.580 And I don't think Roy Moore is good for the party right now.
00:11:49.240 That might be the case.
00:11:50.780 But if he isn't guilty, then should we allow ourselves to be bullied by Gloria Allred?
00:11:56.160 If he isn't guilty, I understand it says, well, it's easy.
00:11:58.800 There are all these accusations.
00:11:59.800 Let's dump him under the bus.
00:12:01.320 But what if he isn't guilty?
00:12:03.240 Then doesn't that set a precedent for all campaigns?
00:12:06.480 That said, it doesn't look good for Moore in this particular.
00:12:09.860 But in the general, if they're just unsubstantiated, if we don't have a lot of evidence, should we really automatically believe Gloria Allred and her clients?
00:12:18.840 I don't believe these women without evidence. 1.00
00:12:21.940 I think if you're making allegations against someone, it's up to you.
00:12:24.420 You have burden of proof to substantiate your claims.
00:12:26.960 But at the same time, if we are actually interested in pushing forward conservative principles through electing legislators, then people, including Roy Moore himself, need to realize that this looks bad.
00:12:38.740 Now, I think the clip you mentioned that he was still, I think, 11 points ahead of his opponent.
00:12:43.120 So maybe for Alabama voters, this isn't a big deal.
00:12:46.240 But I think in all these elections, the candidates themselves often end up overlooking the point of this.
00:12:52.120 The point of this is to get someone with conservative principles into office and to make people more willing in the future to vote for Republicans.
00:12:59.480 This doesn't do that.
00:13:00.340 Sure, Amber, I think a lot of people in the Republican side who are keeping mum on Roy Moore or who are even defending Roy Moore are saying, look, I don't care.
00:13:10.540 I don't care about 40 years ago.
00:13:12.120 I don't care about his personal life.
00:13:13.900 I want more freedom, and I want less tyranny, and I want more of my own money, and I want less government.
00:13:20.260 And I want conservative social policy, and I don't want crazy revolutionary social policy.
00:13:25.880 And it's a raiser than majority in the Senate right now.
00:13:28.380 Do you think that that argument holds water, or do we have to hold this guy accountable if the accusations are at all credible and tell him, well, we're going to lose this race, but it's better than having someone who has committed these crimes in the Senate?
00:13:43.420 Well, I don't think it would be very conservative to not hold people accountable for their crimes, considering how much we believe in due process and how we believe that the law applies equally to everyone, regardless of whether or not that person is in a position of power.
00:13:58.380 And I think in this case, you know, it's important to note that these stories are very well sourced.
00:14:04.140 The Washington Post piece noted that the woman who made these accusations had told their mothers and their sister at the time.
00:14:12.700 And then the woman who just came out had this yearbook note. 1.00
00:14:16.600 She had a photo of a yearbook note that Roy Moore apparently left her.
00:14:21.020 He signed it, love Roy Moore, D.A., and then he called her beautiful in it.
00:14:26.000 And I know if my parents saw that type of message in a yearbook from a 30-year-old man when I was 15, 16 years old, they would go nuclear.
00:14:34.460 I mean, gosh, my dad would probably be in prison by now.
00:14:37.420 So I think it's important to look at all of these accusations as a whole and not just, you know, each part on their own.
00:14:45.440 Mr. Bois, your eminence, should Roy Moore get out of the race?
00:14:48.720 It's certainly looking like that.
00:14:51.140 Last week when the allegations first broke, I said to myself, OK, I'm going to give it a couple of days, see if the allegations remain credible and if they hold up to scrutiny.
00:15:01.220 I certainly wasn't one to get quick in with The Washington Post or even believe them right off the bat.
00:15:10.300 But it very quickly is looking like the allegations are credible.
00:15:15.300 The one that came forward today is even more credible, like Amber said, the yearbook.
00:15:20.600 I think that Roy Moore is probably guilty of these.
00:15:25.160 And I also have a friend of mine who I won't name who's dealt with Roy Moore in the past previously said when she was 18, he gave her his personal e-mail address, which she felt was a little bit inappropriate and odd at the time.
00:15:40.480 Give me the e-mail address.
00:15:41.680 I want to get him on the show.
00:15:42.720 Come on, pass it along, man.
00:15:44.020 I'm not cute enough and I'm not 18 anymore.
00:15:45.880 So, yeah, I think he needs to drop out.
00:15:50.860 When you've lost Paul Bois, Paul Bois is slightly to the right of Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun, the Vox Dei himself, really bad, not looking good.
00:16:00.920 He might have to finally call this thing quits.
00:16:03.380 But we'll see.
00:16:03.980 They're pretty tough down there in Alabama.
00:16:05.540 Maybe he'll say, I got two words for you, Washington Post, and they're not happy birthday.
00:16:09.700 Who knows?
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00:18:06.460 The New York Times, this is the most, this is the most, the height of irony, the best story to come out of the New York Times in a while.
00:18:14.340 The New York Times is suing a Manhattan woman for pretending to be a New York Times reporter.
00:18:19.900 So a fake news outlet is suing a woman for saying that she, a fake, fake reporter, she's a fake, fake journalist,
00:18:28.500 which I think makes her a real journalist, which means she should sue the New York Times for all of their fake news.
00:18:32.940 This is a lot like Inception.
00:18:35.040 It's a woman named Contessa Bourbon. 0.98
00:18:37.180 She's been masquerading as a New York Times reporter at events at the Brookings Institution, on Twitter, throughout social media.
00:18:43.560 She's used it to talk to congressional staff to get into events.
00:18:46.860 And they're very upset because they're saying that this woman is damaging their decent reputation.
00:18:52.680 They're saying that they have a fine reputation in business and a distinctive quality to their journalism.
00:18:58.520 And I can give everybody listening and hear a minute to chuckle and guffaw and spit out their drinks very comically before answering this.
00:19:06.220 Roaming, why on earth would anyone want to be associated with the New York Times?
00:19:11.120 That's what I was just wondering myself.
00:19:12.920 I mean, if you're going to go out there and just pretend to be something you're not, why is New York Times reporter the thing you'd want to be?
00:19:20.300 Why would you, the New York Times, it's like, yeah, I'm an unemployed bum.
00:19:24.880 Yeah, no, I'm an unemployed.
00:19:25.860 I'm going to get sued by the unemployed bum guild in the country. 1.00
00:19:28.780 Doesn't make any sense.
00:19:29.640 Maybe she was hoping that, I guess, internally their own fact checking as to who was working for who or who was actually an employee was as vigorous as their regular fact checking for their stories.
00:19:40.980 I don't know.
00:19:41.560 It's a mystery to us all.
00:19:42.960 She'll probably get promoted. 1.00
00:19:44.180 If they use their normal fact checking, she'll probably become at least the opinion page editor or something before the year is out. 0.60
00:19:49.800 But, Mr. Bois, once you have finished laughing and guffawing and comically spitting out your drink, doesn't this woman have a strong defense if she plays insanity? 1.00
00:19:59.980 Well, Michael, I really don't know what's more insane, the fact that the woman was posing as a reporter or the fact that she thought the New York Times was respectable enough to pose as.
00:20:08.380 The place to do it.
00:20:08.800 So, if I were a judge and I heard the insanity plea, I'd be, yeah, yeah, I think the fact that you thought the New York Times was the organization you were going to pose as, yeah, that's a pretty strong case for insanity.
00:20:26.320 That's fair enough.
00:20:27.140 Now, you've heard it from the Supreme Judge himself, Vox Dei, Paul Cardinal Bois.
00:20:31.340 Speaking of the New York Times, on Saturday, Ikau and Yenka, I'm sure I'm triggering people and microaggressing by mispronouncing that, asked in the New York Times, quote,
00:20:41.020 Can my children be friends with white people? 1.00
00:20:44.000 I'll save you the trouble of reading the piece.
00:20:46.140 No.
00:20:46.460 The answer is no, according to this writer, a full-throated defense of racial segregation from this New York Times writer. 0.98
00:20:55.020 Roaming, has the New York Times always been this regressive and ridiculous? 0.93
00:20:58.580 Or, you know, as Andrew Klavan says, is it a former newspaper? 0.99
00:21:03.840 Did it used to be a good place and then it just recently got hollowed out by crazy leftists?
00:21:09.840 No, you know, I think the New York Times is in the right of this.
00:21:13.000 I mean, first, you know, black people and white people are being friends, then what's next?
00:21:16.980 You know, black and white married couples, mixed-race children, where will it end?
00:21:22.160 Where will it end?
00:21:22.680 I think the New York Times, exactly, they're right in taking a stand against this.
00:21:26.400 Editorial editor George Wallace will not stand for this.
00:21:30.420 Right, but I think it's actually, this is great, because for a long time, people on the right, people who are conservatives,
00:21:36.320 have been using the term regressive and actually painting these people for what they are, you know, almost pro-racism, pro-segregation.
00:21:43.220 And for a while, frankly, we've looked a little bit crazy, but I think it's coming to the point now
00:21:47.280 where more and more people are starting to realize that there is this underlying narrative of almost anti-whiteness, pro-segregation.
00:21:53.820 They really are, in every way, regressive in their ideology.
00:21:57.120 And I'm actually at least relieved that more and more people are going to find out about this because of this.
00:22:02.140 And I think the New York Times has remained, to too many people, a credible outlet.
00:22:07.340 And I think, I'm glad this is happening.
00:22:08.800 Mr. Bois, this seems to be a step backward, certainly, for race relations.
00:22:14.160 They seem to have taken a step backward over the last 20 years.
00:22:17.060 Obviously, there are many things that we could blame for this.
00:22:20.560 The left likes to blame whitelash, that's their term, a reaction against a black president or black people getting some new rights. 0.93
00:22:27.300 The right rightly points to multiculturalism, terrible revisionist histories, people being ignorant and being uneducated from secondary schooling through colleges. 0.99
00:22:39.340 What is to blame?
00:22:40.760 What cultural factor, what political factor is to blame for the backward step in race relations?
00:22:47.820 It's 50 years of being inundated with identity politics, Michael.
00:22:51.920 I mean, unfortunately, as much as we want to, as much as we revere and rightly revere Dr. Martin Luther King, I'm afraid he is not the one who, who, he's not, who won the, the, the, the cultural battle.
00:23:07.880 Yeah, on the cultural battle.
00:23:09.120 He is not.
00:23:10.000 The Civil Rights Act passed, yes, and that's a very good thing.
00:23:12.680 But when it came to the actual cultural battle and the views and the way that we talk about day to day, that went to Malcolm X and the Black Panthers.
00:23:21.180 That is the predominant view, that whites and blacks cannot in any way coexist unless there's some serious measure taken on behalf of whites that just, I don't even know what it is at this point.
00:23:37.160 But, yeah, that's essentially what the view here is.
00:23:40.200 It's the Malcolm X, Black Panther view of race relations that we cannot get along. 0.80
00:23:45.600 We cannot recognize each other's humanity.
00:23:50.220 I'm completely at a loss.
00:23:51.520 And we can debate it all day long, but really, New York Times and this man who published this piece, which really should be titled How I Teach My Son to Be a Racist, there's no way to debate with them.
00:24:04.960 They're lost in a broken ideology, and the only way to defeat them is on the cultural sphere, and that's it.
00:24:10.620 And the left, they just use Martin Luther King's name.
00:24:13.560 They just use his name and they hollow him out.
00:24:15.820 You'll notice they always refer to him as Dr. Martin Luther King, but they don't refer to him as Reverend Martin Luther King, you know, the thing that makes him a doctor.
00:24:22.980 It's not like he's an ophthalmologist, right?
00:24:24.980 He's a theologian.
00:24:27.060 He's a preacher.
00:24:28.200 And they take the Jesus out of him. 0.84
00:24:30.220 But there are two figures.
00:24:31.240 There's Martin Luther King, who comes from a Baptist Christian tradition, and there's Malcolm X, who comes from the Nation of Islam tradition.
00:24:37.560 And there's the nonviolence, there's God who subdues himself to logic and reason, and there's wrath and chickens coming home to roost and violence in the streets.
00:24:48.260 And the left, the left always uses Martin Luther King's name.
00:24:52.660 They always use his picture.
00:24:53.960 But in their rhetoric, in their action, in their policy prescription, they certainly seem to side with Malcolm X.
00:25:00.220 They certainly seem to side with the forces of racial division. 0.78
00:25:04.060 Amber, can your child be friends with white people? 0.59
00:25:07.200 I guess yours can.
00:25:08.580 But is the fundamental thesis of this piece, is there any merit to it at all?
00:25:14.300 The thesis that America is so inherently racist and it has never corrected its inherent racism and its inherent oppression, and therefore kids need to watch out.
00:25:24.760 Little black kids need to watch out for the cops. 1.00
00:25:26.780 They need to watch out for white people who will betray them. 1.00
00:25:29.720 Is there any shred of reality to this? 0.95
00:25:33.660 No, I don't think that there is.
00:25:36.040 And unfortunately, what we know now is that a lot of racism is learned.
00:25:41.340 It's not inherent to individuals.
00:25:43.380 And this New York Times writer has decided that he's going to teach his children to be racist and to continue this awful trend.
00:25:51.060 And there's a famous quote that goes something like, the oppressed eventually become the oppressors.
00:25:56.180 In this case, I think that's what a lot of the regressive left is seeking to do. 0.88
00:26:02.040 There's so much anger on that side over slavery and various systemic racism that now their goal is to go ahead and oppress white people in some kind of sixth sense of twisted justice.
00:26:14.660 There is certainly images of this in even Columbus Day.
00:26:19.060 You know, on Columbus Day, we talked about the history of Mr. Columbus.
00:26:21.580 And one of the reasons that Columbus Day became celebrated in the United States, it was celebrated in 1892, the 400th anniversary of his expedition.
00:26:30.400 But it wasn't celebrated on the 300th anniversary of the expedition.
00:26:33.880 And the reason is that a year earlier, the largest mass lynching in U.S. history was taken up against Sicilians.
00:26:40.480 It was actually Sicilian-Americans who were the object of this lynching.
00:26:44.640 Eleven of them were killed.
00:26:46.200 And then Italian-Americans pushed for this holiday because Columbus was an Italian guy.
00:26:51.320 He probably wouldn't have called himself Italian.
00:26:52.880 He would have called himself Genovese or Spanish or something.
00:26:56.560 But we do see that coming back certainly time and time again.
00:27:00.980 All right, enough of the fake New York Times.
00:27:02.640 I can't take any more.
00:27:04.040 This is the most New York Times I've read in years probably.
00:27:06.980 Anyone has read it all, actually.
00:27:09.060 That's true.
00:27:09.440 I am the subscriber.
00:27:10.720 I'm the last subscriber to the New York Times.
00:27:12.720 But I'm just kidding.
00:27:13.600 I would never pay them anything.
00:27:14.740 There's another great story that went around Twitter this weekend, which is Boycott Keurig.
00:27:21.500 Americans are boycotting Keurig after a Media Matters Soros-coordinated effort caused the coffee maker to dump Sean Hannity's show.
00:27:29.320 Here's Americans reacting.
00:27:31.320 Well, let's get the smashing, folks.
00:27:32.780 First thing you want to do is set up your ball, get a nice wide stance.
00:27:43.460 Get a good wide stance.
00:27:44.740 Take a firm grip.
00:27:45.800 And you want a good full bottom turn.
00:27:49.080 One piece of tape away so that you can really crush this thing.
00:27:52.920 Now, here we go.
00:27:53.880 Let's see what we can do with this thing.
00:28:01.420 I believe that'll do it.
00:28:02.840 Wait.
00:28:03.800 Oh, boy.
00:28:04.860 Oh! 0.60
00:28:06.460 Hope you're happy, Keurig.
00:28:07.840 Look what I found. 0.99
00:28:18.080 Piece of s***. 0.99
00:28:18.840 This is why they cut it off at the end. 0.99
00:28:20.940 That's good.
00:28:21.460 This is why you've got to subscribe, folks.
00:28:22.920 I want to replay that.
00:28:24.160 The whole rest of the day, I'm just going to be playing that video clip.
00:28:27.040 So Keurig pulls out of Hannity for no reason, by the way.
00:28:30.720 Hannity gave Roy Moore a fairly tough interview, but they decided to pounce on him at Media Matters, which is a George Soros-funded attack dog group.
00:28:39.700 And now Americans are boycotting.
00:28:41.220 It looks like Keurig may reverse its decision.
00:28:43.180 Roaming, is it distasteful for conservatives to boycott just like lefties do?
00:28:49.840 It's much funnier.
00:28:50.780 They're much more clever about how they do it.
00:28:52.640 The left is always shrieking, you have to stop buying this product.
00:28:56.180 And meanwhile, the right is like taking golf clubs to it and making funny videos about it.
00:29:00.720 Is it distasteful?
00:29:01.780 Should we be engaging in these tactics or should we leave coffee unpoliticized?
00:29:07.120 Well, that's a great question.
00:29:08.520 And I firmly believe that coffee should not be political.
00:29:11.720 I don't think, you know, I don't think our ice cream needs to be political.
00:29:14.420 I don't think our clothing needs to be political.
00:29:16.420 But at the same time, we have to ask ourselves, are the consumers the ones who are making this political?
00:29:21.500 Or is Keurig the one that started making this political by withdrawing their sponsorship?
00:29:26.500 That's a hard question.
00:29:27.660 But I think consumers are totally in the right to support brands who they feel align more with their worldview.
00:29:33.540 And again, I'm not saying that conservatives should be so sensitive and, you know, these special snowflakes that get mad at brands if they do something they don't like.
00:29:43.740 But at the same time, you know, I don't think Keurig is necessarily the biggest culprit of this.
00:29:48.940 I think Ben and Jerry's is really the quintessential representative of a lefty company who kind of forces their political views on people.
00:29:56.900 Well, in that case, I think it's completely justified and fine for consumers to say, no, I don't want to sponsor this.
00:30:02.400 Mr. Bois, I know that the left is constantly demonizing the evil corporations.
00:30:07.480 Bernie Sanders talked about the millionaires and the billionaires of the corporate class.
00:30:11.960 Is corporate America, does it lean left or does it lean right?
00:30:15.360 Uh, left.
00:30:17.960 I mean, let's just say, okay, they're not full-blown socialists in the sense they want the government to seize control of their operations.
00:30:26.840 They're just crony capitalists.
00:30:27.980 Yeah, they're just crony capitalists.
00:30:29.980 But yes, in terms of everything social, yeah, they're pretty left.
00:30:35.500 I mean, in terms of traditional morality, same-sex marriage, yeah, as far to the left as you can get.
00:30:44.240 And in terms of abortion, that gets a little bit more dicier, you know, with places like Starbucks and, of course, Target, who are all in for that.
00:30:53.320 Other corporations, maybe not so much.
00:30:55.760 But, I mean, for the most part, yes, corporate America is against Christians, is against Orthodox Jews, is against anybody who holds anything traditional
00:31:05.060 and doesn't want to get in line with the sexual revolution. 0.84
00:31:09.680 So, yep.
00:31:10.760 Sad.
00:31:11.480 I always bring on Paul Bois to cheer me up.
00:31:13.660 You know, I always just, oh, Paul Bois, it's a nice day out.
00:31:16.160 It's sunshine, you're right.
00:31:17.180 It's terrible.
00:31:18.100 All right.
00:31:18.460 No, that's fine.
00:31:19.940 All right.
00:31:20.460 Well, this last news, I had to end on a good news story.
00:31:22.840 I had to end on the greatest news story from the entire weekend.
00:31:27.060 It was a single tweet from our dear leader, President Trump, on his Asia trip.
00:31:32.980 Quote, this is after Kim Jong-un apparently called Trump old.
00:31:38.420 Our president responded in a very diplomatic, very American way.
00:31:41.340 Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me old when I would never call him short and fat?
00:31:48.480 Oh, well, I try so hard to be his friend, and maybe someday that will happen.
00:31:54.440 Amber, the left expectedly went nuts, which was probably the point of this entire tweet.
00:32:00.140 Is this the greatest moment of Trump's presidency, including the appointment of Neil Gorsuch?
00:32:06.560 Yeah.
00:32:07.200 So when this tweet happened, I was sitting around drinking beers with friends, and I think we all laughed for a solid 20 minutes straight.
00:32:14.660 I mean, it is the most perfect backhanded insult you could ever imagine.
00:32:20.180 And the fact that it's from the president just makes it a million times better.
00:32:23.780 This is by far top 10 Donald Trump tweets of all time.
00:32:27.500 You know, they're saying now that he's immature and reckless and impulsive because he heard that he called him fat, and he just tweeted this out.
00:32:36.400 Clearly, these people have been missing the last two years of Donald Trump's political career, you know, the entirety of his political career.
00:32:42.620 This clearly seems to me to have a strategic advantage, which is that you have to back up American credibility.
00:32:51.020 You have to build American credibility both in action, both in shows of military force, in shows of diplomatic arrangements, and in the way you speak.
00:32:59.060 So you have this little tin pot fat dictator with nuclear weapons in violation of countless U.S. and U.N. treaties and resolutions.
00:33:07.880 And he's calling this guy old, and there's our president doesn't blink, calls him short and fat and tells him where to go, you know, in not so many words. 0.92
00:33:17.380 Roaming, am I just kidding myself, or is this a strategically smart way to respond to this guy?
00:33:23.360 You know, I'm kidding myself.
00:33:24.780 That's fine.
00:33:25.080 You don't have to answer.
00:33:25.800 I'm a huge fan of Donald Trump's Twitter account.
00:33:28.040 I don't know if this is strategic.
00:33:29.520 It's definitely hilarious, though.
00:33:31.080 And I think, you know, there are teenage girls everywhere learning some tips from Donald Trump about how you properly conduct a Twitter flame war.
00:33:39.200 It's pretty great.
00:33:40.000 And actually, I think it was after that tweet he went off on the haters.
00:33:43.700 And I think it's just great that the president of the United States is taking time out of his busy schedule to call out the haters on Twitter.
00:33:50.480 It's great.
00:33:50.980 It does harken back to, I think it was two years ago, when he said Happy New Year's to all, even to the losers and the haters.
00:33:59.060 He has one of the highest IQs, and everybody knows it.
00:34:03.120 But I feel bad for you.
00:34:04.540 It's not your fault that you were born effed up. 0.59
00:34:07.280 He used the longer word.
00:34:08.420 That's the president.
00:34:09.980 He obviously, he really is a poet in this medium.
00:34:12.620 I'm not being facetious.
00:34:13.820 I'm not being hyperbolic.
00:34:15.080 He uses language in this medium so effectively.
00:34:18.680 Mr. Bois, is it going to start World War III?
00:34:20.980 Should we just hunker down right now?
00:34:24.620 I'd be hard-pressed to say if a tweet from President Trump costs World War III. 0.93
00:34:31.220 Aren't you going to feel foolish when that building behind you blows up because of it? 0.93
00:34:35.460 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
00:34:36.400 I would feel very, very foolish. 0.65
00:34:39.340 But I don't.
00:34:42.720 I think this tweet was brilliant.
00:34:44.620 The way you've got to deal with men like Kim Jong-un and other men of his caliber is just to deal with them on their level.
00:34:54.780 And that this is exactly the way to hit it at them and just to show, you know what?
00:35:00.940 You are a small individual on this stage.
00:35:03.740 You are not big.
00:35:04.420 And we're not going to treat you with the level of respect that you think you deserve.
00:35:08.260 I love it.
00:35:09.040 Yeah, I really love it, too.
00:35:10.180 I think it's mature.
00:35:11.600 I think it's strategic.
00:35:12.500 I don't care how absurd Roaming Millennial thinks I am being right now.
00:35:16.940 So when the bombs start flying, of course, panel, feel free to come hunker down here.
00:35:20.720 I am basically in a cellar.
00:35:22.360 I'm in the cellar of the Ben Shapiro show.
00:35:24.420 So come on down. 0.96
00:35:25.280 We'll lock it up.
00:35:25.920 We have endless supplies of covfefe, obviously, a bunch of MREs and ammo.
00:35:30.320 So feel free to come over here.
00:35:31.560 Panel, always good to see you.
00:35:33.040 Amber Athey from The Daily Caller.
00:35:34.580 Roaming Millennial from the YouTubes. 0.75
00:35:36.100 And his eminence, Paul Cardinal Bois.
00:35:39.120 That is our entire show today.
00:35:40.900 I should point out, if you want to get a little kick, we're talking about Twitter flame wars.
00:35:44.300 Montel Williams tweeted an article that I wrote over the weekend.
00:35:48.280 You know, he used to be on daytime TV, and he had that show with the psychic and reading DNA results and whatever.
00:35:54.120 And anyway, he tweeted out this article that I said and said it was the least intelligent thing he'd ever read.
00:36:00.160 And so we were going back and forth, and I said, well, you're welcome to come on my show
00:36:03.020 if you'd like to not just insult me, but actually debate the merits of these things.
00:36:07.460 And he totally chickened out.
00:36:08.880 So if you want to send him a little tweet laughing about that, it would be my guest.
00:36:12.240 It was pretty funny.
00:36:13.020 You can find it on the Twitter timelines.
00:36:14.740 You have to subscribe to The Conversation tomorrow.
00:36:16.840 It's going to be a lot of fun.
00:36:18.300 I've got my nose in the book studying all of the important facts to change your life forever.
00:36:22.780 And I'll see you then, but we'll have a show first.
00:36:24.720 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:36:25.580 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:36:26.640 Come back tomorrow.
00:36:27.300 We'll do it all again.
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