The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 579 - Holding Us Hostage

00:00:00.000 Now the Democrats have stopped encouraging race riots and other mass gatherings that

00:00:05.360 are convenient for their political agenda. Well, you know, we still got three months

00:00:08.820 to a presidential election, so they are locking down again. That is what is happening in my own

00:00:14.520 state here of California. The science has not changed, but the politics has. Here is our

00:00:21.200 American psycho governor, Governor Newsom, announcing in perfect gibberish the reason 0.68

00:00:27.460 for the new lockdown. Based on the trend lines, based on the data, based on the science to modify

00:00:34.800 our stay at home order subsequently, meaning not on open economy or off shut down, but a dimmer

00:00:43.500 switch looking at conditions throughout the nation's most populous state as they present

00:00:49.360 themselves as those trend lines become points of concern before they invariably become headlines.

00:00:57.040 It's a consequence of increase in positivity rate, increase, uh, in hospitalizations and ICUs

00:01:04.040 based upon the predicate, this foundation that we laid on utilizing a dimmer switch on, on the predicate

00:01:12.100 of the dimmer switch of the trend lines and the data and the science and the, and the,

00:01:18.320 have you ever heard more gobbledygook in your life? Have you ever heard a politician trying to pretend

00:01:24.440 that he's not talking about politics in a more ridiculous manner? I mean, that basically describes

00:01:29.660 the entire left's approach to our political regime at this point, but he's trying to put onto science

00:01:36.360 that which remains in the realm of politics. And he doesn't do a very convincing job of it because

00:01:41.300 the science hasn't changed at all. His convenient political actions have, he finally gets to the meat

00:01:47.800 of the lockdown. What is going to happen? Today, we are, uh, announcing additional statewide actions

00:01:55.400 as it relates to our stay at home order here in the state of California. Uh, we are now effectively,

00:02:00.600 uh, rather effective today requiring all counties to close their indoor act activities, their indoor

00:02:07.560 operations, uh, in the following sectors, restaurants, wineries, tasting rooms, movie theaters,

00:02:14.040 family entertainment centers, zoos and museums, card rooms, uh, and, uh, the shuttering of all bars.

00:02:21.400 This is in every county in the state of California. So that's in every county. He chooses some arbitrary

00:02:28.200 industries to shut down, but then the devil's in the details in some counties that are on the official

00:02:34.400 monitoring list. It's going to be much more onerous. He's going to be shutting down businesses much more

00:02:40.720 intensely. He's going to be shutting down houses of worship. And it turns out that those select counties

00:02:46.240 are most of the counties in California, more than 50% of them, which hold more than 80% of the

00:02:51.520 California residents. Let me be clear. There is no scientific argument for locking down again.

00:02:59.040 This is strictly political. Our opponents say that we don't get science. I think they don't get the

00:03:06.320 politics that their leaders get the politics. The followers do not. They don't get the politics.

00:03:11.600 They don't get the science either. We'll get into both. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael

00:03:15.280 Knowles show.

00:03:23.600 So that sophisticated virus that knows to only infect the conservative gatherings, but not infect the

00:03:29.440 leftist gatherings. Well, now they don't have any leftist mass gatherings because the riots are over.

00:03:34.160 So everybody's got to lock down again. It's such a brilliant virus. There's a big battle going on,

00:03:39.520 a big battle going on over, in particular, reopening the schools. The outcome of that battle,

00:03:46.000 we talked about yesterday, how it's in the little things that the rot begins. That will dictate a lot

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00:05:12.720 even as the democratic states are trying to lock down again and some squishy Republicans follow them.

00:05:17.680 The big battle is going to be over the schools because whether or not we reopen the schools is going

00:05:22.800 to dictate a fair bit about our economy. It's going to dictate how much government spending is

00:05:26.800 going to have to be injected back into the economy because for a lot of parents, they need

00:05:32.640 the schools to look after their kids. They rely on it. So even if some schools like in New York, for

00:05:37.280 instance, they say they're going to reopen maybe a couple days a week, but then keep the kids home a

00:05:41.040 few days a week. That's not going to work for parents. And parents in New York, by the way,

00:05:44.720 work. You have to work. It's a very expensive city. So what is going to happen? People are going to be

00:05:49.920 forced out of work even longer. And it would seem to me that is what the object is of the second

00:05:56.240 lockdown. So we talked to the medical scientists. We talked to the doctors. Is it safe to reopen the

00:06:02.640 schools? Clearly the mainstream media want that answer to be no. And yet on MSNBC, they asked a

00:06:09.360 number of doctors and they got a scientifically correct, but politically inconvenient answer.

00:06:15.600 Would you let your kids go back to school? I will. My kids are looking forward to it. Yes.

00:06:23.280 Period. Absolutely. Absolutely. As much as I can. Without a hesitation. Without a hesitation. Yes.

00:06:31.840 I have no concerns about sending my child to school in the fall. I would let my kids go back to school.

00:06:36.960 Dr. John Torres, NBC News.

00:06:41.840 They all said yes. So you've got the report from the straight reporter. Then it cuts back to the

00:06:48.160 anchor on MSNBC looking furious. They all, they all said yes. They will send their kids back to school

00:06:57.440 and let the economy reopen and possibly reelect the orange man. That is terrible. The left relies on

00:07:04.000 science when it's convenient for them, when the experts back them up and then they ignore science

00:07:08.240 when it's not convenient. We obviously see this on the science of sex. They don't care a lot about

00:07:14.480 science when they're talking about 56 imaginary genders. They don't care a lot about science when

00:07:18.640 they pretend that babies are not really people, but they try to rely on science when some of the public

00:07:25.600 health experts give them what they want politically. So politically speaking, not the public health

00:07:31.840 experts politically, they're, they're trying to shut down the schools. The teachers union in Los

00:07:36.640 Angeles shows you how political this has gotten. So the union is demanding, you know, the teachers

00:07:42.160 unions have caused so much trouble throughout this country, but especially in places like New York and

00:07:46.320 California. Well, in Los Angeles, the teachers union is demanding before they agree to allow the schools

00:07:52.320 to reopen. They're demanding that all students must be tested for COVID-19 in the weeks prior to

00:07:58.880 returning to school. Okay, fine, whatever. I guess we're okay with that, right? That seems relatively

00:08:06.640 reasonable. Next, next one. All students must take weekly COVID-19 tests. Seems kind of like overkill,

00:08:16.160 but okay, fine. It's still at least focused on the virus. These teachers are a little bit wacky,

00:08:22.000 but we already knew that. Okay, fine. Let's say we give into that one. Then the students must wear

00:08:27.720 door to door mandatory face masks at all times. Well, that's not going to work. Well, first of all,

00:08:34.320 that's absurd that you're, you think that school kids are going to sit on a bus with that stupid 0.90

00:08:38.140 mask on. Second of all, what are they going to, they're going to eat in the cafeteria. They're going

00:08:42.100 to have their mask on and slip it through underneath the mask. I don't think so. Or at recess, they're going

00:08:46.040 to do that or at all. No, that's not going to happen. But even that third, third request, I see

00:08:52.640 or demand rather the teachers aren't requesting, but I see how it relates to the virus, but they have

00:08:58.500 other demands. The union does not want to reopen the schools from the virus until there is a moratorium

00:09:07.940 on charter schools. So good schools that threatened their cushy jobs and their educational failures

00:09:15.520 and give kids a better education. The union, teachers union doesn't want to reopen schools

00:09:21.340 until the police are defunded. Why? I don't know. What does that have to do with coronavirus?

00:09:27.200 Absolutely nothing. They don't want to reopen the schools until they have Medicare for all. 0.69

00:09:32.480 So these freaking teachers are not allowing their students to be educated, probably ever judging by

00:09:39.240 the demands they're making, but they're not even allowing the facade of education, the schools to reopen

00:09:44.000 until we have socialist medicine. They don't want to reopen the schools until we have a wealth tax.

00:09:51.020 So not, not just an income tax, not just raising taxes on the money you earn, but actually just

00:09:55.120 going into your bank account, stealing the money that you've already paid taxes on.

00:09:59.460 And until there is a federal bailout for, I don't know, I guess for everybody, for California,

00:10:04.820 for Los Angeles, for the schools, that's not about the virus. They are using the virus. They are

00:10:12.700 exploiting the virus. Whatever threat the virus poses, which would appear to have been dramatically

00:10:19.120 overhyped. They are using that to push for a radical agenda, the likes of which we have rarely seen in

00:10:27.840 this country. This gets to a point that I wish the left and I wish many conservatives could get through

00:10:36.300 their skulls. There is no scientific basis for a second lockdown. What was the lockdown for?

00:10:45.900 The lockdown was 15 days to slow the spread. How long has it been now? We're at something like 130

00:10:53.060 days. Why did we want to slow the spread so that we didn't overwhelm the hospital system? We never did.

00:11:00.340 We never came close, not even in New York, not even in Los Angeles, nowhere. The predictions were not

00:11:05.500 correct. The models were not correct. We, the curve was flattened, but people are still going to get

00:11:11.420 it. Now they, now that they transferred that from flatten the curve to find a cure, but now it seems

00:11:17.880 we have found a cure. Dr. Fauci said this just a while ago, but the vaccine at the rosiest predictions

00:11:24.300 is going to be 70% effective. And at the rosiest predictions, 70% of people are going to get it,

00:11:29.840 which means we won't get herd immunity, which means all of this was for nothing. We won't have a cure.

00:11:35.580 People will still have to get it. We will still have to go outside.

00:11:40.200 There is no way that a lockdown is going to stop the virus. There is no way that a mask is going to

00:11:45.500 stop the virus. The virus is going to be what the virus is going to be. Actually, the fact of the

00:11:50.820 second lockdown is showing us how futile it is to try to completely eradicate this thing. It's not going

00:11:58.300 away. It's going to keep coming back. The only purpose that this could serve is political. We

00:12:05.700 have done every single thing possible to fix the problem medically. Actually, our, our establishment,

00:12:13.460 our public health and political establishment has done many things to try to prolong the problem

00:12:18.540 medically for one reason, or in one example of this, by suppressing hydroxychloroquine, which was an

00:12:25.940 early treatment for the virus that president Trump touted that then you saw some fraudulent papers

00:12:31.720 published talking about how hydroxychloroquine was really dangerous and it hastened to death. Now,

00:12:36.180 of course, those papers got retracted, but nobody reads the retractions. They only read the headlines,

00:12:40.440 which the mainstream media push. Counterproductive stuff. If your goal is to slow down the virus,

00:12:48.160 give the public back its confidence and reopen, but they don't want to do that.

00:12:50.940 They don't want to reopen. They want to keep you locked down until November. Other countries are

00:12:56.860 opening up again. Do you know why? Because they don't have a presidential election in November

00:13:00.560 and their establishment is not willing to ruin people's lives, prevent people from being with

00:13:06.800 their loved ones while they die, prevent people from having jobs, prevent people from having a

00:13:10.560 livelihood just to kick out their political opponent. What we are saying here is that the lockdown is

00:13:19.940 not scientific. It's entirely political. The left accuses us of not understanding the science. Well,

00:13:24.020 I've just described the science. I've described the science, I think, better than most of the

00:13:27.860 scientific experts because the scientific experts have been completely wrong the whole time. And even

00:13:32.420 a layman like we conservatives is able to predict it better, to see it better.

00:13:37.780 Regular old Joe on the street. We found one. We'll play that in just a moment.

00:13:44.120 Has a better record on this virus than the media scientific political establishment.

00:13:49.020 It's not that the right does not understand the science here. It's that the left,

00:13:53.280 at least the followers, the rank and file don't understand the politics. They don't understand

00:13:58.460 how the left has perverted science for the last 50 years, at least to really for the last 150 years

00:14:05.380 to push their political agenda. Because politics, you know, is when we all just talk and debate things

00:14:11.240 and, you know, you've got, you've got eternal questions, justice and mercy. Well, how are we

00:14:15.920 going to resolve those two things? We're going to talk to our fellow citizens and debate them.

00:14:20.380 What the left pretends is that there is a clear science of politics and what they want is what

00:14:24.680 they should get. Don't you guys think it's a little coincidental that the way to solve the

00:14:30.220 coronavirus problem as a matter of public policy is exactly the way to solve the global warming

00:14:35.520 problem. Massive redistribution of wealth, massive federal subsidies, massive jobs program,

00:14:41.760 constricting the rights of people. Don't you, isn't that a little weird?

00:14:46.560 Like you, you would expect two issues that are so different, a Chinese virus and the polar ice caps

00:14:53.560 melting or the ozone layer being depleted. You would, you would expect those problems to have

00:14:57.320 different solutions. And yet for the left, it's always the same one, different, different verse,

00:15:03.420 same as the first. This is it. You need to stand against this. This is the political fight

00:15:09.620 of your age. And you might like to soothe yourself into thinking that it's all, it's just about the

00:15:15.900 science. It's not, this is about politics. We will look back on this number of years and realize

00:15:20.500 the political consequence of this. And for those of us who call ourselves conservatives or who call

00:15:25.120 ourselves old school liberals, you know, who just want to go back to normal, this is the time to

00:15:29.020 take a stand. If you don't take a stand now, you're very likely not going to have the opportunity

00:15:33.600 because the effect of this is not just on the economy. It's not just on the election. People

00:15:38.440 are dying out there. The crime surges are through the roof. People are getting killed in the streets

00:15:43.600 and our democratic leaders are gaslighting us. They're pretending as it's not even happening.

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00:17:15.300 When we look around at the very tangible effects of this thing,

00:17:19.020 of this lockdown and the fake science behind the lockdown, behind the second lockdown,

00:17:25.700 obviously there is carnage out there. We just had the country on fire for a few weeks and now

00:17:32.540 because there's less in the way of policing. They've defunded the police. Police are walking

00:17:37.460 off the job because they're being targeted by the civil authorities. Crime is shooting through

00:17:42.160 the roof. Well, AOC is not too worried about that. Even in New York where the bullets are flying,

00:17:46.400 she is saying, oh, it's not, don't worry about the violent crime. These are crimes of necessity.

00:17:52.580 So why is this uptick in crime happening? Well, let's think about it. Do we think this has to do

00:17:58.340 with the fact that there's record unemployment in the United States right now? The fact that people

00:18:03.640 are at a level of economic desperation that we have not seen since the Great Recession?

00:18:09.480 Maybe this has to do with the fact that people aren't paying their rent and are scared to pay

00:18:13.600 their rent. And so they go out and they need to feed their child and they don't have money.

00:18:19.820 So you maybe have to, they're put in a position where they feel like they either need to shoplift

00:18:25.380 some bread or go hungry that night. That's what it is. This is Jean Valjean. This is

00:18:30.440 Les Miserables just trying to get a loaf of bread to feed their kids. Is that what's going on?

00:18:35.060 No, I don't think so. As Caitlin Flanagan pointed out on Twitter, the, the uptick in crime isn't

00:18:39.420 stealing a loaf of bread. It's 11 dead New Yorkers just over the weekend. They were not, they were not

00:18:46.120 killing the, the bread store owners so they could grab the bread. This is sick, violent crime. So people

00:18:52.900 pointed this out that these are not crimes of necessity. These are crimes of, of violent thug

00:18:58.780 criminals. And AOC's response is, Republicans are all upset that I'm connecting the dots between

00:19:03.520 poverty and crime. Well, I know most of them haven't experienced or seen these issues firsthand,

00:19:07.740 but I have. This may be hard for them to admit, but poverty and crime are highly linked, both violent

00:19:12.480 and nonviolent alike. I would like to take this moment to remind you all that AOC is a fraud who did

00:19:17.780 not grow up in the Bronx. Like she pretends to, she grew up in the wealthier town next to my already

00:19:23.940 wealthy town in Westchester. At that time, one of the wealthiest counties in the United States.

00:19:30.200 She is not Jenny from the block. She grew up in beautiful Yorktown Heights where deer are prancing

00:19:36.600 through the hills. She went to a very good high school and a very expensive private college. She does

00:19:41.700 not know what, what this, this growing up in poverty and the, you're forced to steal a loaf of bread is

00:19:47.060 like. Nowhere near it. Total fraud, just like the whole rest of the left, which talks about this

00:19:53.900 stuff. The premise here is that the cause of crime is not the evil that is lurking in man's heart,

00:20:02.080 all of man's heart, because we're fallen creatures. The cause of crime is society. There's

00:20:08.880 something broken in the system and it all boils down by the way to money. So if you just inject a

00:20:14.900 little bit more money into certain communities, if you just give some people money, they will not

00:20:19.580 commit crimes. All of our experience of human history contradicts this very stupid idea and this

00:20:26.700 very stupid understanding of human nature, but that's her belief. And frankly, she's getting a lot

00:20:32.680 of support these days from the activists who have been burning down the country, who also share that

00:20:38.160 premise. They are avowed trained Marxists. She's getting that, uh, given to her, she's getting

00:20:45.020 that support from leftist democratic politicians, people sitting in Congress, her colleagues in

00:20:52.920 Congress, major democratic candidates. And she's even getting it from some squishy Republicans who 1.00

00:20:58.640 want to go along with all of this so that no one criticizes them or calls them dumb or says that

00:21:04.080 they don't understand the science that they themselves have absolutely no credibility on

00:21:08.780 whatsoever. The science by the way, which contradicts itself almost every single day. And then they

00:21:13.940 pretend that they never issued any other guidance. The Republicans are giving in. Conservatives are

00:21:21.140 giving in here. You know, fortunately Trump has held pretty strong on this whole thing for now,

00:21:25.660 but they're just wearing us down, wearing us down, wearing us down. And because I think sometimes we

00:21:33.000 ourselves don't understand the politics. Luckily, Kayleigh McEnany does, you know, there are, there are a

00:21:37.800 few really well-placed people here and Kayleigh McEnany is just incredibly good at her job. So White House

00:21:43.640 Press Secretary comes out, she is asked questions about this AOC point on crimes of necessity. She doesn't

00:21:52.580 give it one moment's acceptance. She smacks it down. We know that in Los Angeles, when they announced

00:22:01.140 that they would be defunding their police department by 150 million, they basically immediately after

00:22:06.660 saw a 250% increase in homicides. When you have people out there like Representative Ilhan Omar saying

00:22:14.040 we have to completely dismantle the police and police are our cancer. This is not how we should be talking

00:22:19.380 about our heroes. It's not. Listen to her words there. She refers to our police officers, the people

00:22:26.460 who protect us as heroes. This is what you've got to do. I would say there are probably three categories

00:22:32.660 here. The first one is the left, which says that cops are racist, bigoted killers. Then there's Kayleigh

00:22:37.920 McEnany calling them heroes. And then there are the damn squishes, not worth anything, who come out there 1.00

00:22:45.020 and they say, well, look, I, I think there's a, there are a lot of bad police and the police need

00:22:50.920 to be reformed, but just some of them are good and they're trying to play both sides. And it, it

00:22:56.360 doesn't work. You're not seeing clearly. If you stand in the middle of the road, you're going to get

00:23:00.420 hit by a truck. There is no evidence at a national level that the police need to be seriously reformed.

00:23:06.100 We've gone through the numbers. How many unarmed black men were killed by cops last year? And by the way,

00:23:10.640 unarmed doesn't mean not dangerous. Unarmed does not mean that the killing wasn't justified.

00:23:15.340 Do you know how many? 9,990? No, nine, nine single digits. And how many of those killings were

00:23:22.540 justified? If you go, you can go through them one by one. Many of them were justified killings

00:23:28.840 were the guys attacking the cops. She realizes that this battle has to be fought on clear terms.

00:23:36.380 You see it in the question of the lockdowns. Well, maybe it can't hurt to shut down the economy

00:23:42.200 again without really having an objective in mind because we can't cure the virus and we're not going

00:23:47.160 to totally stop its spread and we're not going to get herd immunity, but let's just shut down because

00:23:51.560 people really seem to want us to shut down and I don't want to be called dumb or hateful or accused

00:23:55.900 of killing granny. And I know that they changed their tune and they said it was perfectly fine to

00:24:00.460 gather in large groups when they were tearing down George Washington, but now it's different. But Hey,

00:24:04.260 look, that's just the left. Hey guys, let's just meet in the middle. Let's come on. Let's have it.

00:24:08.460 There's no meeting in the middle on this. There's no meeting. This is the battle. So pick a side or

00:24:15.340 don't remain neutral, but history doesn't look very kindly on those who remain neutral during times of

00:24:22.400 great moral questions. Then Kayleigh McEnany, because she is so good at this, realizes that you can't just

00:24:31.480 talk generally. You can't, you can't just talk about why AOC's point is abstractly wrong. She hones in on

00:24:37.040 the daughters, the families of these cops who have been killed in the line of work after being

00:24:43.900 vilified by the left and deprived of their own protection from the civil authority.

00:24:49.800 This weekend in New York, you see a one-year-old killed in his stroller. His name was Devel Gardner

00:24:54.760 Jr. And that one-year-old will be in our prayers. Not only that, you see officers Garza and Chavez.

00:25:01.020 And to your question about how we should talk about the police and defund the police, a movement the

00:25:05.520 president stands against, the two officers ambushed this weekend. One of them, Officer Chavez's daughter,

00:25:11.240 wrote a very touching tribute online. She said, words cannot describe the pain I'm in, but I'm glad my

00:25:16.180 dad is at peace. You are an amazing man. And anyone who ever came across you knew that. I'm going to miss

00:25:21.440 you so much. You died doing what you love most. You died a hero. And those touching words were

00:25:25.920 written by Savannah Chavez. And I know she received vile and outrageous comments online that were 0.92

00:25:31.480 absolutely atrocious for a touching sentiment to her dad. I want Savannah to know your dad is a hero.

00:25:37.820 His police department should never be defunded because most of our police officers are good,

00:25:42.280 hardworking men and women and heroes, much like Savannah's dad. We'll be praying for you, Savannah.

00:25:47.680 Thank you, guys.

00:25:48.280 I love that clarification there at the end. She goes, I want you to know, unless it wasn't clear

00:25:52.640 what I was saying before, I want you to know your dad is a hero. The difference between political

00:26:00.040 campaigns, election years, tough political times, and, oh, I don't know, lunch around the academy

00:26:08.000 is in the latter. When you're just kind of spitballing and discussing political ideas,

00:26:13.440 there can be a whole lot of nuance, a whole lot of complexity, a lot of, well, yeah, give and take,

00:26:18.660 sure. When you're in a political campaign, you've got to be clear about what you think and what your

00:26:23.080 objectives are because you need to follow up these ideas with action. And a lot of people in this

00:26:30.620 country believe that this lockdown is just the result of an academic discussion of science. It's

00:26:36.080 not. The science is not leading the politics. The politics is leading the science because this

00:26:41.280 is an election year. So speak clearly, know what this is about. This is not the time to bat around

00:26:48.400 ideas and see what happens. This is, this has stark consequences and it will have very stark

00:26:54.140 consequences for our country. If we, every day that the second lockdown goes on, Joe Biden's chances of

00:27:00.300 getting elected increase substantially. Every day that that guy who can't string two words together

00:27:06.420 is allowed to sit in his basement rather than campaign, his chances of winning increase every

00:27:11.720 day. The kids are not sent back to school and their parents very likely are not able to go back

00:27:16.580 to work. Joe Biden's chances of winning increased substantially every day that a Republican politician

00:27:22.660 puts on a mask needlessly in public. Joe Biden's chances of winning increase substantially because you buy

00:27:30.140 into his premises. It's amazing that the right is so bad at politics. It's amazing that they don't

00:27:37.620 understand what's happening to them. Maybe it's because the right is a little less deceptive about

00:27:42.700 the whole thing because we actually tell people what we think. And sometimes those views are not popular

00:27:46.920 in the moment, but we, we tell them what we think anyway. We don't, we don't speak in, in the sort of

00:27:53.320 mealy mouth language that you get from somebody like Joe Biden who wants to play all sides all the time.

00:27:57.360 But this is the battle and we should at least speak clearly about what is really going on

00:28:05.080 as a matter of that campaign. We will get to the good news on the virus that is not being reported

00:28:11.480 because you're hearing a lot of bad news, but all the bad news is just a cover for all the very good

00:28:15.960 news. We'll get to that in one second. First though, I got to thank you. I got to thank you for going over

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00:29:20.300 Let's delve in for just a moment into the actual science of the Corona virus. We hear cases sky

00:29:32.440 rocketing. We hear a lot of silly arguments for the lockdowns. What about the deaths?

00:29:38.880 How are the, you notice they don't talk about the deaths too much. They only talk about the,

00:29:42.740 the diagnoses because obviously we're testing more and more people are going into the hospital and

00:29:47.060 perhaps more people are coming down with it, but the death rate is lower than we thought.

00:29:50.820 New York city, once the epicenter of Corona virus on Sunday reported for the first time

00:29:58.800 in months, since the beginning of this epidemic reported no deaths from Corona virus, zero,

00:30:06.960 zero. Now they tell us, don't get excited. Don't get happy. It's going to get much worse.

00:30:11.140 Be afraid, be very afraid, stay in your home. But just, just think about that. If you,

00:30:16.380 if you were just to close your eyes, listen to the mainstream media talking about Corona virus,

00:30:20.600 particularly in New York, which was the hardest hit. Would you imagine that the reality of that is

00:30:25.760 that on, on Saturday and being reported Sunday, not one single person in the city died from the

00:30:32.740 virus, particularly given how lax they are in the way that they are classifying these deaths.

00:30:38.360 That if you die with Corona virus, you're said to have died of Corona virus. You'd be 97 years old

00:30:43.980 and die of pneumonia, but you'd be, you, you would be put down as dying from Corona virus. Some people

00:30:49.960 have been shot, actually shot with guns, but they have been classified as Corona virus deaths and not

00:30:56.240 one in New York on Saturday. That is very good news, but you can't celebrate that good news.

00:31:04.020 You've just got to focus on any bad news. And if there's no bad news, you got to make it up.

00:31:08.140 Another example here in California, people are not allowed to attend church services

00:31:12.700 indoors. That's what governor Newsom just said. You're allowed to vandalize churches,

00:31:18.200 but you're not allowed to attend church services and actually worship God. Isn't that a little weird?

00:31:24.020 There is, we've seen some of the attacks on the churches. We know there was the attack on that

00:31:27.820 famous church, St. John's in Washington. Cops really did nothing to stop that. They were told to

00:31:32.580 stand down, but this is happening all over the place. Churches in California, New York, Massachusetts,

00:31:40.220 Florida, all being attacked, all being set ablaze, all being vandalized, major damage. They suffered

00:31:47.240 some, some were historic churches too. A man in Florida drove his vehicle into the queen of peace

00:31:52.940 Catholic church as it was preparing for morning mass on Saturday, then poured gasoline in the foyer and

00:31:59.600 then set the building on fire. That's it before he drove off. In LA, the, the historic San Gabriel

00:32:05.560 church, which has almost been around for a quarter of a millennium was targeted in an arson attack.

00:32:13.460 Someone tried to set it on fire. In Boston, a statue of the Virgin Mary was set on fire and desecrated.

00:32:19.560 Another statue of the Virgin Mary was desecrated on Sunday in New York city. This stuff is going on

00:32:25.640 all over the place. That's fine. No one seems to stop that. And yet governor Newsom, very, very worried.

00:32:33.820 I mean, other, other governors and mayors too, very worried about people actually going in and praying.

00:32:39.420 Certainly there's no science to that, but there's, there's no political reasoning either.

00:32:43.600 If you want to maintain order, if you want people to behave, if you want to live in a normal,

00:32:48.720 nice society, but they don't want that. They don't want that.

00:32:51.560 What the left in this country wants is chaos and mayhem and destruction, economic and social and

00:32:59.100 political until November 3rd. And then it's all going to change. Mark my words. If Biden wins,

00:33:06.640 heaven forfend, that's all over. Frankly, even if Trump wins, they're going to be so deflated that

00:33:12.500 it will start to trail off too. But certainly, certainly if Biden wins, think about how backwards

00:33:17.980 this is. You can set a church on fire, but you can't go pray. You can walk up to somebody's home

00:33:24.600 with guns, threaten their lives and their property. That's totally fine. You're a peaceful protester.

00:33:31.160 But if you, the homeowner take out your own gun to defend your property, you will be arrested

00:33:36.520 and indicted. That's what the McCloskeys in St. Louis believe is about to happen. They have heard 0.97

00:33:43.280 rumors around town that they are about to be indicted and, and other political figures in St.

00:33:48.080 Louis have suggested that as well. You know, there's a lot of misinformation on the McCloskeys

00:33:52.440 too. We were told that the McCloskeys, the St. Louis gun couple are actually Democrats. They're

00:33:58.080 actually supporters of Black Lives Matter. I spoke with Mr. McCloskey and he said that that, like so

00:34:04.000 much else during the riots and the mayhem and the lockdowns and the virus, all of which by the way,

00:34:09.080 are very, very related. That as well was fake news. You know, I want to set the record straight

00:34:15.400 on one thing. I've been reading a lot of reports about me on the media, some of whom have accused

00:34:19.660 me of being a Democrat. And I have donated money to various candidates, particularly ones who are

00:34:24.440 personal friends of mine over the year, but I've been a lifelong Republican. Another thing I'd like

00:34:28.800 to clear up is that the media reports me as being a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement.

00:34:34.800 And I am certainly not. Black Lives Matter, to my understanding, is a Marxist organization 0.63

00:34:39.700 opposed to everything I stand for and everything I hold near and dear. I do stand for equal justice

00:34:44.980 for all under the law, but that's got nothing to do with this terrorist organization known as Black

00:34:49.540 Lives Matter. Love that guy. One, because he's correcting all that fake news. Two, because he

00:34:54.800 defended his property. But three, because he's just a guy, right? He's not a super duper expert.

00:35:01.640 He's not an elected official. He's not a man in a jacket and a tie on the mainstream media. He's not

00:35:06.200 wearing any jacket and tie. He was wearing a pink polo and white chinos. Just a regular guy who is

00:35:10.940 speaking more common sense on what is going on right now than most other people that we look to

00:35:18.380 for guidance, that we look to for leadership. This is happening all around us. I, for one,

00:35:26.340 I've had enough of Dr. Fauci. I've had enough of all the super duper scientific experts and I've

00:35:32.880 especially had enough of Dr. Fauci. Dr. Fauci has been wrong since the beginning, which is fine.

00:35:38.200 People get things wrong. I'm not attributing malice to the guy. However, he more than anyone

00:35:44.560 in this country has been vociferous in locking down everything. Put your foot on the accelerator.

00:35:50.000 Don't take your foot off the accelerator. Destroy the economy for what? 15 days to slow the spread.

00:35:56.280 How many days ago was that? 115 days ago, 130 days ago, maybe longer. I've had enough of that.

00:36:03.440 There's no argument left. Dr. Fauci, we played it on the show yesterday, who said, don't wear masks

00:36:08.220 at the height of the virus. He said, wearing masks is ridiculous. It's stupid. Don't do it. Now we all

00:36:12.720 have to wear masks. I've just had enough. I don't, I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but he's been wrong.

00:36:17.300 He's been worse than wrong. His advice has damaged the country. Enough of him. Fortunately,

00:36:23.180 it seems the president might also agree with my assessment of the exalted Dr. Fauci, peace be

00:36:28.360 upon him. He tweeted out a few, a few tweets over the weekend that were, oh, I think these tweets

00:36:33.360 actually just came out yesterday. Even better, more urgent. It's more likely to be, uh, to, to continue

00:36:39.320 now that we're pretty critical of, of Fauci, not by name, but by association. Trump retweeted,

00:36:47.540 everyone is lying. The CDC media Democrats are doctors, not all, but most that we are told to

00:36:53.400 trust. I think it's all about the election and keeping the economy from coming back, which is

00:36:57.040 about the election. I'm sick of it. That's true. Another post that Trump retweeted has so much

00:37:04.120 evidence. Yes. Scientific evidence that schools should open this fall. It's worldwide and it's

00:37:07.620 overwhelming, but no. Yep. Also true. And the final one, Trump tweeted, retweeted, uh, said,

00:37:13.640 so based on Dr. Fauci and the Democrats, I will need an ID card to go shopping, but not to vote.

00:37:19.460 You see that last one, the one that actually names Fauci, it's not explicitly a criticism.

00:37:26.120 It's a question, but it's a question that is absurd, right? It's a question that in itself

00:37:33.160 is a criticism. You're telling me I need an ID to go buy a carton of milk, but I don't need one

00:37:40.060 to exercise my, my most important right as a citizen to choose my own leaders. That's good.

00:37:48.020 You know, a lot of times people say to, about Trump, take away the Twitter, take away the phones,

00:37:53.540 just let all of his advisors run things. I think he's been getting some bad advice.

00:37:58.100 I don't have a whole lot of respect for many of his advisors. I have respect for some of his advisors

00:38:03.960 who have been encouraging his good instincts, but the ones who have been forcing him to waffle on this

00:38:10.740 thing, to change his initial instincts on his handling of the lockdown, to give the left to

00:38:17.200 their premises, to seriously threaten his chance at reelection. I don't have a lot of respect for them.

00:38:22.620 I think Trump has had good instincts. I think Trump is much more in tune with regular old

00:38:29.740 everyday Americans than his sophisticated advisors are who haven't left Washington DC in several

00:38:37.340 decades. And I think that Trump's got to follow those instincts. There was a guy who, it was a

00:38:43.040 video going around the internet of a guy who used rough language. He talked to, you know, not the sort

00:38:47.720 of thing we would want to emulate necessarily, but I think what he was expressing is what a lot of us

00:38:51.600 are feeling right now, which is he was, he was just shopping, minding his own business. And in some

00:38:56.120 stores now, it's not enough that you have to wear the mask and I don't know, perform all these weird

00:39:00.300 rituals. You actually have to walk following arrows through the store. So let's say you're walking,

00:39:05.460 you know, you're, you walk past the, the pasta aisle and you get into the bread aisle, but then you

00:39:09.280 realize, Oh wait, I forgot. I need some spaghetti. So you turn around, you walk back three feet,

00:39:13.100 they scream at you. They get so crazy. All of these people who are on such an hysterical edge from the

00:39:20.220 coronavirus alarmism. So this woman decides to start filming this guy for no, imagine that walking 0.94

00:39:26.260 up to a stranger and just filming them for no reason. And this guy goes off. He, he reminds us

00:39:31.400 why increasingly it seems the laymen are wiser than the experts. Take a picture of me. Does that

00:39:39.500 make you feel better? Why don't you get a life? Dude, I have a life. And they're going around taking

00:39:44.900 pictures of people. Yes, because what you're doing, can you not follow the lions on the floor?

00:39:49.620 Keep your mouth running. The governor, the mayor is asking us all to wear a mask and look at you,

00:39:55.320 not wearing a mask. I wear a mask to protect myself. It's unbelievable. Now you have accosted

00:40:02.820 me in this store. It's not a law that I got to wear a mask. It's not a law that I got to wear a mask.

00:40:07.540 And if you're going to keep this up, maybe we'll get the police department in here.

00:40:11.040 Hey mom, what'd you call 911 then? Yeah, yeah. Oh God, another one. You people are like monkeys 1.00

00:40:17.480 falling out of a tree. No, you're the monkey that hasn't. Hey, I'll tell you what.

00:40:22.040 Dragging those knuckles that you've not evolved. Okay, how's that grab you?

00:40:26.240 Ever heard of Duranism? Evolution? Evolved, mister. Why don't you burn something down?

00:40:32.900 Why don't you go back to where you were? Why don't you go burn a monument down or something?

00:40:38.140 You know? You must be the one who's- Are you burning crosses? Are you burning crosses?

00:40:42.360 People are f***ing idiots, man. Great interaction. Absolutely terrific. It illustrates so much of what

00:40:49.160 we're seeing now, which is this guy is minding his own business, buying something in a store and not

00:40:54.360 accosting anybody, and some lunatic woman, too, actually, start filming him because he's not 0.54

00:41:01.900 performing the very specific political rituals that we've been told for the past few weeks we

00:41:07.680 have to perform. But a few weeks ago, those same people who tell us we have to perform them told us

00:41:12.020 we shouldn't perform them, namely wearing the masks, walking in the right directions.

00:41:16.060 And when he says, lady, you're acting crazy. This is not normal behavior to go up to people and

00:41:22.800 start filming them because they're not shopping for groceries in exactly the way that you want.

00:41:26.820 This is crazy stuff. What does she say? She goes, you don't know science. You probably don't believe

00:41:31.480 in evolution. You probably don't listen to the exalted Dr. Fauci. You don't. She lobs a political 1.00

00:41:37.800 attack that is cloaked as science. And that is what, I presume this woman is of the left. I presume she's 0.50

00:41:45.020 a Democrat. This is what her national political leaders are doing all the time. And yet there is more

00:41:52.660 wisdom in this layman's gut than in all of the pseudo-scientific knowledge and credentials

00:41:59.260 of that crazy lady of the left. Think about this. There was a story that came up a week or two ago,

00:42:05.800 though it hasn't come up recently because it didn't support the left-wing narrative.

00:42:09.400 It was about a 24-year-old black man who was found hanging from a tree in Southern California.

00:42:13.120 And the LA Sheriff's Office said that this guy died from suicide and all of the BLM rioters, 1.00

00:42:20.960 the leadership, suggested that this was a lynching. BLM, the self-described Marxists of BLM and the

00:42:31.180 crazed leftists who support them are convinced that lynchings happen in the US all the time.

00:42:35.920 It's practically 1875 Alabama or South Carolina right now in Southern California or all around

00:42:43.980 the country or all these lynchings. Any normal person who saw that story realized this guy died

00:42:48.920 by suicide. Didn't worry about it. But they pushed and they pushed and they pushed. Now we found out

00:42:53.000 they finally admitted it yesterday. There was no foul play. It was a suicide. Well, what else do we know

00:42:59.200 about this guy's history? We know he had a history of mental illness. We know that there were prior

00:43:02.940 reports of suicidal ideation. We know he had disclosed a plan to kill himself prior to his

00:43:08.620 death, all according to the Sheriff's commander, Chris Marks, at a news conference. We know that

00:43:13.500 he purchased from a local Dollar Tree a red rope consistent with the one used in the hanging.

00:43:19.240 Very sad story that this guy killed himself. There was never any evidence whatsoever that it was a

00:43:24.280 lynching, but the left insists on pushing that narrative. Why? So that it could further divide people,

00:43:30.080 so that it could, so that it could encourage the riots, which the scientific establishment was more

00:43:34.460 than happy to encourage because it was advancing their political agenda. You remember that letter

00:43:38.080 where they sent out the letter? It was over a thousand public health scientists and they public

00:43:43.260 health experts, quote unquote. And they said that if you protest the lockdowns, that's bad. It's going

00:43:48.140 to kill people. And if you protest for BLM or any other leftist cause, that's good. That'll actually

00:43:53.860 suppress the spread of the virus. Ridiculous. Now that, now that those riots have abated,

00:44:00.740 now that they're trying to push up the, the lockdowns again, they're also back to this idea

00:44:07.160 that Donald Trump is a Nazi. Most ridiculous article on the internet all of yesterday from USA Today. It

00:44:11.980 was a fact check over whether the Trump campaign selling a t-shirt with Nazi imagery. Now, why do they

00:44:19.160 call it Nazi imagery? Because the Trump campaign was selling a t-shirt with an eagle on it. You know,

00:44:24.960 an eagle, like a symbol of America, very well-known symbol of America. Well, they said this is Nazi

00:44:30.860 imagery because the Nazis also had an eagle as one of their symbols. So they did the fact check

00:44:38.480 and the fact check originally said, this was true, that it was, if you use an eagle, you are a Nazi.

00:44:45.880 Just like they tried to redefine the okay sign or, you know, the game where you put the okay sign out

00:44:51.160 and then you get punched in the arm if you look at it. Remember they tried to define that as a Nazi

00:44:54.920 symbol. They tried to redefine milk as a Nazi symbol. Define frogs as a Nazi symbol. Everything's

00:44:59.680 a Nazi symbol. Now, including bald eagles. They've since updated it with an editor's note. Story has been

00:45:06.320 updated to reflect further reporting and analysis. And the rating has been changed to inconclusive.

00:45:11.960 It's not inconclusive. It's false. If you use a bald eagle in American political imagery,

00:45:17.400 that's not a Nazi symbol. That's an American symbol. And it has been for a long time. But

00:45:22.460 you see, it's to reflect further reporting and analysis. There's no further analysis.

00:45:27.400 They just got called out on their BS. There's no further scientific analysis that is causing

00:45:37.120 democratic political leaders to do whatever they want arbitrarily and defend it with the

00:45:43.340 gobbledygook of scientific speech. We, you know, we got some good news out of Florida too,

00:45:49.920 on the science. There's a guy, Alex Berenson has done a great job covering the science

00:45:53.040 of coronavirus. You know, you've, if you just read the headlines about Florida, you would think,

00:45:57.880 you would think the entire state is on death's door right now. You might say the entire state's on

00:46:02.960 death's door because it's a little bit of an older population. People, people tend to go there to 1.00

00:46:06.040 retire, but specifically because of the coronavirus, frankly, you would think because of that older

00:46:10.240 population, they would have been absolutely decimated. Well, you know, there's 70,000 new cases,

00:46:15.560 positive tests for the virus. Do you know how many people are now in the hospital

00:46:20.600 because of those 70,000 new cases? 70,000 in the whole state.

00:46:25.220 130 people have gone to the hospital for that. Not a hundred, not 1,300, not 130,000,

00:46:34.820 130 more patients in ICU beds statewide last week because of the virus. 45 deaths in one day in a state

00:46:49.020 of 20 million people. If, if we could have a nice, polite, civilized, calm, scientific discussion

00:46:58.580 of the virus, I'm sure it would be very interesting. It's a novel virus. We haven't seen this one before.

00:47:04.060 It's similar to other viruses we've had. It's acting in ways that are kind of interesting,

00:47:08.960 ways that confound the models, ways we might not have predicted. If we could have that conversation,

00:47:13.620 I'm sure that would be interesting in an academic sort of way, but that's not the conversation that

00:47:18.680 anybody is having. The only conversation that people are having right now is political.

00:47:24.720 The leftist leaders understand that. Perhaps the rank and file do not, but the leaders do.

00:47:32.480 And unfortunately the right, many people on the right, too many people on the right,

00:47:36.400 don't understand just how political it is. Time is running out, folks. We are living here in time

00:47:45.580 and space. Statues are toppling down in time and space. The economy is stagnating in time and space.

00:47:51.320 And that presidential election is getting closer and closer and closer. Campaigns are about giving a

00:47:58.340 clear message, giving people a clear choice. And if the right, if the right falls into this trap,

00:48:05.340 you know, Trump actually gave us an option. Trump was different than the other candidates in 2016.

00:48:10.440 Trump shook things up. He stood tall. He stood differently. One problem with Republicans, they always

00:48:17.080 squish to the left. Trump gave us that choice. But if he keeps getting bad advice, if he squishes,

00:48:24.400 if he doesn't give us a choice, if he keeps moving over, if he grants their premises, then in this

00:48:31.900 extraordinary election year, we are going to, we are going to be, get wiped out by a political strategy.

00:48:39.920 And we're not even going to know it's political until it's too late. Pick your choice. Don't stand

00:48:44.820 in the middle of the road. That's our show. We've got a lot more to get to. We'll have to do it

00:48:47.460 tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

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The Michael Knowles Show - July 14, 2020

Ep. 579 - Holding Us Hostage

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