The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 650 - What’s Kraken？

00:00:00.000 A former federal prosecutor is promising to release the Kraken to prove that the 2020 election

00:00:08.180 was stolen. In Sidney Powell's words during a wild press conference, President Trump actually

00:00:16.040 won the election in a landslide and the left and the administrative state and the media are trying

00:00:23.380 to steal it from him. This is stunning, heartbreaking, infuriating and the most unpatriotic acts I can

00:00:37.340 even imagine for people in this country to have participated in in any way, shape or form.

00:00:44.240 And I want the American public to know right now that we will not be intimidated. American

00:00:50.000 patriots are fed up with the corruption from the local level to the highest level of our government

00:00:57.080 and we are going to take this country back. We are not going to be intimidated. We are not going to

00:01:02.820 back down. We are going to clean this mess up now. President Trump won by a landslide. We are going

00:01:10.120 to prove it and we are going to reclaim the United States of America for the people who vote for 0.99

00:01:15.940 freedom. Those are pretty big claims, but are they true? The Trump team seems to be distancing

00:01:21.680 themselves from Sidney Powell. The left and the right are uniting to attack Powell and even in some

00:01:28.380 cases demanding that President Trump concede. And I feel as though I am the last patient man in America.

00:01:36.100 We will break down what's Kraken. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:45.940 Sidney Powell will release the Kraken. I will release all of the puns. I am going to use

00:01:52.020 puns of Kraken in as many show titles as I possibly can. And I also am going to take this seriously.

00:01:58.380 I think a lot of people are just rushing right now to attack the Trump legal team or to attack Trump,

00:02:05.100 not just the left, but also Republicans too, as though we didn't have a legal process that is

00:02:10.060 going to play out. Now, of course, as part of that legal process, we are going to have to see

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00:03:32.580 Durham, who says Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself, but he did vote for Joe Biden. That is

00:03:39.340 almost certainly true, right? I'm not saying Jeffrey Epstein voted, but if he voted, the guy

00:03:44.160 definitely voted for Joe Biden. Now, that is one aspect of voter fraud that you've seen historically

00:03:52.520 in the United States, which is that nefarious political actors will fill in ballots for dead

00:03:59.100 people. And, you know, you see this happen in every election almost to some degree. So the question

00:04:05.480 is, does it happen enough to throw an election? That's not though quite what Sidney Powell is

00:04:10.880 alleging here. There was a fairly long press conference on Friday with the Trump legal team,

00:04:16.080 Rudy Giuliani, our friend Jenna Ellis, and Sidney Powell, who was there. They were all alleging sort

00:04:22.760 of different things and different aspects of the irregularities that took place.

00:04:29.060 Sidney Powell has gone the furthest. She's saying that there is a conspiracy. You know,

00:04:33.760 the thing about conspiracy theories is sometimes there actually is a conspiracy. Very often there

00:04:38.080 are not, but sometimes there are. And she says she's going to release the kraken. For those who don't

00:04:42.720 know, the kraken is a giant Scandinavian octopus. It's a mythical beast that comes out and rips sailors

00:04:48.380 down to their watery, watery deaths. And so she's saying, yes, I'm going to release this giant monster

00:04:53.920 and show you that there's this, this giant tentacled thing that is all around our government.

00:04:58.940 So what are the specific claims made in the press conference? The conference began with Rudy

00:05:03.380 Giuliani and everyone's attacking Rudy because he's kind of an eccentric character and it looked like his

00:05:08.500 hair dye was running down his face a little bit. But I have to tell you, I get such a kick out of

00:05:13.380 Rudy Giuliani. I absolutely cannot attack the guy. One thing that people kept, kept hitting him for

00:05:18.980 is because he made a reference to one of the greatest movies of all time, My Cousin Vinny.

00:05:23.780 Did you all watch My Cousin Vinny? You know the movie? It's one of my favorite law movies

00:05:29.280 because he comes from Brooklyn. And when the nice lady who said she saw, and then he, he says to her,

00:05:36.780 how many fingers do I, how many fingers do I got up? And she says, uh, three. Well, she was too far

00:05:44.760 away to see it was only two. These people were further away than my cousin Vinny was from the

00:05:51.220 witness. So Rudy Giuliani is describing why the poll watchers who were not, Republican poll watchers

00:05:56.980 were not permitted into the election centers in a number of places around the country, notably in

00:06:01.980 Philadelphia. Even after there was a court order saying, Hey, you crooks, you got to let the

00:06:06.620 Republican poll watchers in, in many places still wasn't happening. And even where Republican poll

00:06:11.760 watchers were permitted in, often it was the case that the poll watchers had to stand, not just six

00:06:16.380 feet away, 20 feet away, 50 feet away from where the votes were being counted. And so Rudy's using

00:06:21.140 this example from My Cousin Vinny and saying, you can't see that closely. That is a, an evocative

00:06:26.800 example. It's not, they say, why is Rudy talking about My Cousin Vinny? Well, because he's giving a

00:06:31.860 news conference and he wants to get people's attention. That's a good way to do it. Another great moment

00:06:35.800 during the press conference, again, has not terribly much to do with the specific allegations

00:06:41.020 themselves, but I loved it nonetheless, is where Rudy taught the American public a word of Italian

00:06:47.840 American slang, which is a stunad. You knew if you lived in Philadelphia, unless you're stunad, that's

00:06:55.440 an Italian expression for stupid. Unless you're stupid, you knew that a lot of people were coming 1.00

00:06:59.980 over from Camden to vote. They do every year. Happens all the time in Philly. It's about as 1.00

00:07:06.060 frequent as getting beaten up at a Philadelphia Eagle basketball, a football game. Happens all

00:07:10.620 the time, all the time. All the time. Stunad. This is, it does occur to me for people who are not of

00:07:16.680 Italian extraction or are not from New York. You might not know that expression. It, it actually,

00:07:21.060 Rudy's misstating it a little bit here. It comes from the Italian word stonato, which is like out of

00:07:25.560 tune, you know, out of whack, not, not quite, uh, on, online, not quite in melody, melody or in

00:07:31.380 harmony. Uh, so sure. Stupid. People are knocking Rudy for this. This is classic Rudy. This is why you

00:07:39.260 hire Rudy Giuliani. He is not making an argument before a judge right now. Some critics are saying

00:07:43.860 maybe they should focus all their efforts just on making arguments before a judge, but this is a

00:07:47.920 press conference. This is designed to entertain you and to grab your attention and therefore, thereby

00:07:53.460 to give you the facts. Donald Trump does this very well. He makes a big, big show and he gets

00:07:58.900 everybody's attention and then people are paying attention to what he is telling them. That is what

00:08:03.160 Rudy Giuliani is doing here. I find it charming and I really enjoyed it. Then there was, it's just one

00:08:09.060 other moment that I thought it was perfect. I mean, you can see how Rudy and Trump have been friends

00:08:12.560 for decades now. He's asked questions by the press and he takes some questions. He doesn't take other

00:08:18.000 questions. And for one, he could tell they were kind of activists. They were a little bit more

00:08:22.280 left wing. So he asks them, who are you with? What publication are you with?

00:08:27.560 CNN.

00:08:30.620 Perfect way to respond. Perfect way to respond to CNN. Just laugh in their face. 0.68

00:08:35.000 This is the difference you're seeing between two types of Republicans here, two types of

00:08:39.160 conservatives. The ones who are really nervous about what the left thinks of them and say that

00:08:45.620 we need to rush to attack Giuliani and Jenna and Sidney Powell and Trump. And we need to rush to

00:08:52.320 tell them to concede. And we need to rush to say, this is all crazy and there shouldn't be legal

00:08:56.500 challenges. The ones who are, I don't know, what do you call them? I've been calling them the court

00:09:00.680 jester conservatives. The ones who are willing to play according to the rules set by the liberals.

00:09:06.660 That's one type of conservative here. And the other kind are the ones who just laugh,

00:09:10.420 who laugh at CNN, who say, I don't care what you think of me, CNN. I don't care what you think of

00:09:15.880 me, administrative state. I don't care what you think of me, left. You have no credibility,

00:09:21.920 left wingers. You see this, especially when the left accuses conservatives of being racist or sexist

00:09:27.100 or whatever, some is, some ism word. And there's some people who say, no, no, I'm not, please. You

00:09:31.780 know, they really want to defend themselves against some calumnius charge. And then the other ones who say,

00:09:35.900 who cares? I don't care what you say. You have no, you have absolutely no right to say that to me.

00:09:40.940 You have no credibility. That's what Rudy is doing. And you know, he, he might have eccentricities.

00:09:45.360 He might have foibles. His, his hair gel might run down his face, but that is the attitude. That

00:09:50.580 is the only attitude that is going to be successful. I'm not saying it will be successful. I'm saying if

00:09:54.540 we have a chance of being successful, the only way to do it is to tune out what the left is saying,

00:10:00.120 tune, tune out the Stunad left. Then he gets to the specific allegations. Okay. And what Rudy is

00:10:06.620 talking about here are voting irregularities, specifically the counting of illegal ballots.

00:10:13.880 Now it's not necessarily the case that the voters themselves are ineligible to vote. Maybe they are,

00:10:18.580 maybe they aren't, but that the ballots themselves, because of the mode in which they were transmitted,

00:10:22.880 the mode in which they were counted are themselves illegal. And Rudy thinks there were lots and lots of

00:10:27.840 these illegally counted ballots enough to throw them all out and overturn some of these state

00:10:33.200 decisions. There are 60,000 ballots in Milwaukee County and 40,000 ballots in Madison that as far

00:10:45.040 as we can tell, and this is why we've, we're auditing because we have very good information

00:10:49.340 that the numbers are going to come out about here that don't have applications. Under the law of the

00:10:55.440 state of Wisconsin already decided if there's no application for an absentee ballot, the absentee

00:11:03.180 ballot is thrown away. This all happened in two places in Wisconsin. Didn't happen in northern

00:11:10.940 Wisconsin. Didn't happen in Republican Wisconsin. Didn't happen in neutral Wisconsin, where there are

00:11:16.800 equal number of Republicans than Democrats. It happened in a place where the vote was 75, 80% for the

00:11:24.680 Democrat. Of course, we know this. We know that there are these crooked machine cities. We know that all

00:11:31.040 the irregularities were happening in these crooked one party Democratic controlled cities. Is it enough to

00:11:38.260 throw the election? Who knows? That's why there's a legal process playing out. But don't look me in the eye and

00:11:44.360 tell me that everything was above board here. We know that it wasn't. We know, I mean, just to use

00:11:48.880 that one example in Pennsylvania, we know that crooked election officials were violating court

00:11:53.980 orders. For what purpose? Because everything was above board? I don't think so. We know that there were

00:12:00.880 shenanigans that went on and Rudy is making an aggressive case that because of those shenanigans,

00:12:06.580 you got to throw out those ballots. And if you throw out those ballots, maybe you can flip the states.

00:12:10.180 If you flip the states, maybe you can flip the election. Very important to focus on ballot

00:12:17.140 security. That's what Rudy's talking about. It's going to be a little bit different than what

00:12:20.780 Sidney Powell's talking about. But what Rudy's talking about is the security of the ballot box

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00:13:35.600 excellent point here about Wisconsin. It's an aggressive point. The judges might not care.

00:13:40.580 They might throw it out. There might be so many political considerations. They can't do it. They

00:13:45.680 don't want to overturn the election in these states. There might be insufficient evidence.

00:13:50.400 We don't know what Rudy has, but what he's describing is pretty significant. Then you get

00:13:55.020 to the woman that everyone's talking about, Sidney Powell. Sidney Powell is not talking about dead

00:14:00.020 people voting. Sidney Powell is not talking about the illegal counting of ballots in certain polling

00:14:05.840 locations. Sidney Powell is alleging massive widespread electronic voter fraud. She's specifically

00:14:13.920 alleging that the alphabet agencies, you're talking about agencies like the CIA, the FBI, that these

00:14:20.580 agencies went in and manipulated votes. She's alleging that the software that we're describing here,

00:14:29.360 Dominion Software is one piece that's come up, Smartmatic, another company that's come up,

00:14:35.680 that this was constructed in cooperation with crooked governments that would steal elections.

00:14:41.520 The alphabet agencies have been involved in this, and that basically there was a massive,

00:14:45.640 not just national, but international conspiracy to steal this election. That is the claim. Actually,

00:14:52.040 not last Friday, the Friday before when I was filling in for Rush, we spoke to Rudy Giuliani,

00:14:56.900 and he, Mayor Giuliani brought up that there were huge, shocking issues with Dominion and Smartmatic.

00:15:03.260 So it wasn't just Sidney Powell making this argument, though. She was the only one making this argument

00:15:07.280 at the press conference. So here is Sidney Powell's grand claim.

00:15:14.220 One of its most characteristic features is its ability to flip votes. It can set and run an algorithm

00:15:21.700 that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump

00:15:28.060 and flip them to President Biden, which we might never have uncovered had the votes for President

00:15:33.580 Trump not been so overwhelming in so many of these states that it broke the algorithm that had been

00:15:40.400 plugged into the system. And that's what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in.

00:15:46.640 So she's saying that, and we remember this on election night, for some reason, the vote counting

00:15:51.620 stopped just for, and then in some places it continued, even though it was continuing

00:15:56.220 behind closed doors illegally, not the way it was supposed to be done. Why did that happen?

00:16:02.480 Sidney Powell said it's happening because people were electronically trying to steal the election

00:16:05.600 and so many people voted for Trump, they had to go in and fix it somehow. Okay. We don't,

00:16:10.460 we don't have evidence for it. We just have the circumstances that Sidney Powell is bringing up,

00:16:16.180 and we have her claims. And, and I should point out, Sidney Powell has had a real career. She was an

00:16:22.360 assistant U.S. attorney, federal prosecutor. She was the lawyer for Mike Flynn. So this is not,

00:16:29.200 you know, some lady sitting with tinfoil, a tinfoil hat on. Now, I don't know, maybe she's 1.00

00:16:35.020 gone completely insane. That's an allegation against her. Maybe she is, maybe she hasn't. Maybe she's a 0.99

00:16:39.940 very serious lawyer and she actually has the goods. We don't know. She has been going on news shows over 0.99

00:16:45.580 the past weekend to give greater detail on some of her claims. This isn't a summary judgment motion

00:16:52.860 where we actually have to produce any evidence. Now your typical lawsuit, you just file a statement

00:16:58.040 of what the charges are without any affidavits or anything. But are you saying you're going to file

00:17:02.280 the same? The way the media is going about this is absolutely ridiculous and unreasonable to expect 0.78

00:17:07.360 us to put evidence in right now. Although we are, we know election issues are on an expedited schedule,

00:17:13.040 but I could wait a month to file the fraud case and everybody would have to undo their

00:17:17.220 certifications because it's so bad. But are you saying you're going to file the same

00:17:20.920 case in multiple jurisdictions or in one jurisdiction? Each one's a little bit different

00:17:26.460 depending on what happened in the state. The different manner and means and the evidentiary

00:17:32.060 aspects that support each one. You know, we've got different affidavits from different witnesses in

00:17:36.960 each of the states. So there are going to be some differences between them, but they're going to be

00:17:41.680 claims that are identical. Some of the legal claims are going to be identical. For example,

00:17:47.440 in a number of states, there were modifications to the machine after the statutory cutoff date

00:17:54.520 that should invalidate every vote cast on the machine. So she's sticking with her story and she's

00:18:01.040 giving more examples that we haven't seen a ton of hard evidence just yet. Since these interviews,

00:18:07.920 the Trump legal team has distanced itself from Sidney Powell. They sent out a message last night

00:18:12.920 said, Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She's not a member of the Trump legal team. She is

00:18:17.800 also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity. That was a memo that came out from Rudy

00:18:22.760 Giuliani and Jenna Ellis who are on the Trump legal team. Now in the past, President Trump has

00:18:27.520 described Sidney Powell as a member of the Trump legal team. I don't know that Sidney Powell has ever

00:18:32.240 described herself as a member of the Trump legal team. I think she's described herself as a supporter

00:18:36.280 of the president, but I haven't seen her do that. News shows have described her as a member of the

00:18:39.360 Trump legal team. But again, I don't know that she has herself. Now Powell, for her part, has

00:18:45.220 responded to the statement. Powell, for some reason, was kicked off of Twitter when all of this came out.

00:18:49.380 So she couldn't defend herself on Twitter. It's a little strange. And Powell responds and says,

00:18:53.420 I understand today's press release. I will continue to represent we the people who had their votes for

00:18:57.520 Trump and other Republicans stolen by massive fraud through Dominion and Smartmatic. And we will be

00:19:01.780 filing suit soon. The chips will fall where they may and we will defend the foundations of this great

00:19:05.660 republic. Hashtag cracking on steroids. So Sidney Powell, totally doubling down. And unless you

00:19:13.300 think, by the way, that the Trump legal team is totally shocked by what Sidney Powell was saying,

00:19:20.220 go back to the Rush Limbaugh show, not three days ago, not this past Friday, but the Friday before that

00:19:26.500 when I was filling in, Rudy Giuliani bringing up similar issues, maybe not with the same ferocity,

00:19:32.200 maybe not with the same grandiosity, but he is bringing up the same issues with Dominion

00:19:38.920 and Smartmatic. What do we make of all of this? I think that just about every single person in

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00:21:26.880 What do we make of all of this? Is Sidney Powell single-handedly saving the republic?

00:21:32.500 Is Sidney Powell completely insane? Is President Trump going to win the election?

00:21:37.460 Is President Trump destroying the republic by not conceding?

00:21:40.800 Ah, my goodness gracious. Am I the last patient person in the world? Am I the last calm,

00:21:51.940 non-hysterical person on planet Earth? Sometimes it feels that way. We have liberals on the one hand

00:22:00.240 disingenuously demanding that President Trump concede before the legal process plays out,

00:22:06.820 before the process within our constitutional framework plays out. Then on the other hand,

00:22:12.640 we have fretful conservatives nervously demanding that Trump concede as well.

00:22:17.920 And even more of them attacking Powell, first chance they get.

00:22:23.180 Even, you know, prominent cable news hosts who usually are considered pretty conservative or

00:22:28.100 usually pretty hardcore, slamming Powell. Why? I think my take is completely different than all of

00:22:35.540 these. My take is chill. Calm down. There's a process here. They will have their day in court.

00:22:45.240 Sidney Powell will have her day in court. She will file her claims and argue them before the judge,

00:22:50.140 or she won't. If she doesn't, then obviously she doesn't have the goods. If she does,

00:22:53.740 she will argue the claims. The evidence will be presented then. Maybe the evidence will be convincing.

00:22:59.480 Maybe it won't. Even if the evidence is convincing, maybe the judge won't care anyway.

00:23:03.060 But maybe the evidence isn't convincing. It'll be thrown out and then we will know who the president

00:23:07.560 is when the courts make their ruling. Has, has everybody forgotten that patience is a virtue?

00:23:15.260 It's okay. You don't need to, we don't need to rush to slam some conservative lawyer. We don't need

00:23:22.240 to rush to concede an election. We also don't need to rush and say there, we have a hundred percent

00:23:26.580 proof that the election was stolen and Biden's completely ill. We don't need to rush toward any

00:23:31.140 of that. It's not going to do any good, is it? There is a process that is going to decide who

00:23:35.480 the president is, whether we like it or not. And that is, that's not even just some process that

00:23:40.500 was cooked up in the last five or 10 years by some nefarious progressives. That's a process that we've

00:23:45.280 had for centuries in this country. And that's what's going to happen. And, and there's no reason

00:23:50.560 necessarily to overthrow that. There's no reason to rush that process as well. Bush v. Gore lasted

00:23:56.460 something like 38 days. How many days are we into this now? We're 20 days in? Okay. Seems to me like

00:24:04.460 we still have time. And there are a lot more states up for dispute. There's a lot more evidence of

00:24:08.060 irregularities today in the 2020 election than there ever were in 2000 with the hanging chads in Florida.

00:24:14.160 Okay. The election is not over, but there is a distinct, or I suppose maybe a more than distinct

00:24:22.200 possibility that when this process plays out in court, the courts will name Joe Biden the president.

00:24:28.320 And Joe Biden, I'm sorry to say, has not been instilling confidence in all of us if he does

00:24:35.160 ascend to the presidency. Take a listen to some, some soaring rhetoric recently from Mr. Biden.

00:24:40.300 They talked about that in some detail. Thirdly, we discussed the need to help states with title

00:24:46.840 32 funding for the national guard. That's a fancy way of saying governors, governors need to be able

00:24:53.680 to get funding when they dispo, when they just, they need to, uh, and bring, bring their national

00:25:01.000 guard into play. And national guards are going to have to play this. It costs a lot of money.

00:25:05.620 Ah, yes. I forgot about the, what was that? Huh? What'd you say? Come again?

00:25:11.200 What the Biden team has been doing with what liberals have been doing is they're blaming this

00:25:14.980 on Joe Biden's childhood stutter. You see, so if you, uh, in any way question Joe Biden's,

00:25:22.160 uh, mental faculties, if you in any way question his ability to communicate ideas, 0.98

00:25:28.160 you are, you're mean, you're cruel, you're ableist. You are making fun of this trait that he had no 0.95

00:25:35.080 control over that he's had since he was a child. The problem with that argument, of course,

00:25:39.400 is that Joe Biden's childhood stutter mysteriously disappeared for 70 years, right? He had, I guess

00:25:46.720 he had it when he was a child. He's 78 years old now. He had it when he was a child. Then it went

00:25:52.400 away. And then he had a 50 year political career, 47 years to be precise, 47 year political career,

00:25:59.660 no stutter. No, the childhood stutter was fixed. And then the childhood stutter comes back

00:26:04.720 at age 76, 77, 78. That's no longer a childhood stutter. That's something different. That's evidence

00:26:12.820 of cognitive decline that I don't think anybody, if you caught any of the Biden staffers in a moment

00:26:19.080 of honesty. I don't think any of them would deny. So then Joe Biden clarifies, quote unquote, what he's

00:26:26.080 thinking. We talked a lot about what the governor is about, what the immediate needs are. I'm going to,

00:26:31.680 we're going to impose the, we're going to enforce the, excuse me, employ the Defense Reconstructed Act

00:26:38.060 to be able to go out there and dictate companies build and do following things. We need much more

00:26:45.840 testing. We need much more masking. I mean, that's more, we need gloves. I asked them East to go and

00:26:51.060 ask the National Governor Association through the Governor Cuomo and the ones on the line to let us

00:26:55.920 know what their shortages are, what they anticipate. This is so embarrassing. The left has been saying

00:27:01.480 now for years that Trump is so embarrassing. Donald Trump is Pericles compared to Joe Biden. Donald Trump 1.00

00:27:06.560 is Abraham Lincoln in his soaring oratory compared to Joe Biden. And in his moral clarity and in his

00:27:15.480 political vision, the clarity of that vision, it's very difficult to believe the claims of voter fraud

00:27:23.620 that are, specifically they're being made by Sidney Powell. Not, not because I don't think it's possible

00:27:29.220 that they have, I think it is possible. It's just because of how grand it would be. Because of how

00:27:35.620 significant that kind of an issue would be if really, you know, the bureaucracy and the administrative

00:27:42.680 state are colluding with these, these different election officials in already, we know, corrupt

00:27:46.920 states and cities to, to steal an election on that, on that massive organized scale, which is, which is

00:27:52.660 different than just, you know, an irregularity here and a little crookedness and a little cheating

00:27:56.300 here and there. So it is hard to believe that. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's hard to believe

00:28:01.080 that. Then on the other hand, it's much harder to believe the deep staters, the bureaucracy,

00:28:08.940 the administrative state that spied on president Trump in 2016, that tried to stage a legal coup

00:28:14.980 d'etat in the ensuing three and a half years through countless investigations through a completely

00:28:20.380 illegitimate impeachment and so forth. So it's, you can't believe them. You certainly can't believe

00:28:25.360 them. And, and you certainly a hundred percent can't believe the media who have spent not just

00:28:29.920 years, but decades lying to you. Who do we believe? My take is we wait for the evidence and just,

00:28:37.360 we stay calm, stay cool. When you get really worked up, when you get really angry, when you get

00:28:41.940 really red in the face, you make mistakes. You do things that you will regret later. Stay cool.

00:28:48.200 Don't let them, don't let the left troll you into that kind of madness. Stay cool. Stay calm. Have

00:28:56.740 faith. It'll work out. You know, there's that line, my, my friend and priest, Father Rutler,

00:29:02.080 George Rutler says, difference between a Scottish optimist and a Scottish pessimist. Scottish

00:29:06.160 pessimist says things can't get any worse. Scottish optimist says, oh yes, they can.

00:29:10.900 I think that same thing can be said of conservatives. You know, it might, it might not work out. We know

00:29:15.680 at a certain point the culture is going to keep getting worse and worse and worse. That's something

00:29:19.080 we can be sure of. And so we'll, we will just have to wait and see grit and bear it and have courage,

00:29:24.680 which is the prerequisite for all of the other virtues. And we can fight back. You know, our wonderful

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00:30:57.680 While we wait, while we try to figure out what happened in 2020, we don't need to just roll

00:31:09.060 over. You know, we can push back where we can. Rudy Giuliani did that and Kayleigh McEnany doing

00:31:14.820 that as well. A bunch of those hyenas in the press pool were screaming at her in the White House 1.00

00:31:19.980 briefing room. And she made clear she feels no obligation to call on radical left reporters. 0.59

00:31:25.840 Thank you, everyone, for the very good and substantive questions today.

00:31:32.840 I don't call on activists, nor should she, nor should she. I'm all for calling on real reporters

00:31:48.800 who are having a good faith conversation, but not for activists. This is actually something

00:31:52.580 that I've realized in online discussions, in public debates, you know, whenever people challenge you

00:32:01.120 to a debate or these sorts of things. I think it is good to have good faith debate. I think that is

00:32:07.180 a good thing. I love doing it. It's one of my favorite things to do. And I think it is not only

00:32:11.180 pointless, but damaging and counterproductive to engage in bad faith debates. There are a number of

00:32:16.860 leftist blue checks who all they want to do is make bad faith arguments. And then if you kind of

00:32:21.220 poke some holes in those arguments and you try to take the discussion further to a deeper and more

00:32:25.300 interesting place, they won't do it. Maybe because they're not capable of it, but certainly because

00:32:29.580 they're not interested in that. You have no responsibility to engage in that kind of a

00:32:34.680 debate. I actually think it's just a temptation and it's something wrong to do to engage in that

00:32:39.640 kind of debate. And that's what Kayleigh McEnany is saying. She's saying, I'm not, no, I don't talk to

00:32:43.180 actors. I talk to reporters. If you want to be a reporter, I'll talk to you. If you're just going to be an

00:32:48.040 activist, that's not what this is for. That's not what the White House briefing room is for.

00:32:52.540 Speaking of activists in the media, there is one who just went a bit viral for expressing

00:33:00.120 a view that I think is actually pretty common on the left. And it is, it should make us all

00:33:04.960 just a wee bit worried if Joe Biden becomes president. The Pulitzer Prize winning art critic,

00:33:11.240 Jerry Saltz, I believe he said, was he a New York Times magazine or so? He's somewhere. He's a very

00:33:16.080 prominent art critic. Jerry Saltz is now suggesting that Republicanism, conservatism should not be

00:33:24.940 tolerated. He writes, Republicanism is no longer a political problem. Republicanism is a social

00:33:32.140 problem. It must be treated in the same way coronavirus is treated. It has to be isolated

00:33:37.500 and snuffed out by repressing it in about 70% of the population. Isolated and snuffed out. This,

00:33:44.580 first of all, Jerry Saltz probably knows more about art than I do. I assume he does. He might not have

00:33:50.820 the correct views on art, but at least in terms of just knowing of that, he might, he might. That's

00:33:56.000 his area of expertise. But he doesn't know a damn thing about politics. Just listen to this nonsense 0.94

00:34:01.500 sentence. Republicanism is no longer a political problem. It is a social problem. Political problems

00:34:07.980 are social problems and social problems are political problems. Politics means what we do together.

00:34:13.240 Politics means how we all engage and live together. It comes from the Greek city state,

00:34:18.980 the polis. That's what it, that's all it means. The left has tried to narrow the realm of politics.

00:34:24.540 It's ironic. What the left has done is both make everything political. Your sneakers are political.

00:34:29.220 The coffee you drink is political. Everything now is political. The shows you watch, the sports you

00:34:32.880 watch are all political. Except for politics. Then politics is no longer political. Areas that are

00:34:38.300 open for public debate by citizens are now taken out of that political sphere.

00:34:46.280 So everything, it's, their views are, are totally contradictory on this. But the reason is in a

00:34:53.540 traditional American polity, we might just, if you wear a certain set of sneakers and I wear a certain

00:34:59.380 set of sneakers, we just choose not to engage in that. We, we, we think, okay, that's sort of beyond

00:35:04.840 the realm of important political discussion. Yeah, it's public yet. I guess it relates to how we are,

00:35:10.500 but we're, we're going to, we're going to focus on the issues that really matter.

00:35:13.540 We're going to prioritize our issues. And what the left has done is totally flip that. So all the

00:35:17.280 really important questions, how our government is set up, how elections are conducted, who gets to come

00:35:21.980 into the country, whether you can kill babies, whether you can execute mass murderers or serial killers 0.86

00:35:27.900 or rapists or, or, uh, teenager murderers, you know, which we're actually going to get to in a 0.99

00:35:32.920 second. That is taken out of the realm and that's given to experts and scientists and lab coats who

00:35:38.480 are deemed to rule us better than we rule ourselves. This guy went viral and people are attacking him

00:35:43.640 for it. I don't think he's calling for the mass murder of conservatives as some people do. I don't

00:35:47.960 think he's even particularly radical. I think this is the mainstream, mainstream left-wing and liberal

00:35:53.320 view. I think he's just saying out loud, which is that conservative views are illegitimate.

00:35:59.880 They should not be permitted in the public sphere. We need to reeducate all the conservatives so that

00:36:05.520 they are, they're not conservative anymore. And they need to get with the program because progress

00:36:09.540 is now, it's no longer a matter of politics. It is a scientific matter. We're going to give it to

00:36:14.360 the experts. The constitution is inadequate to govern the country. We've got to be governed under

00:36:18.900 this organic bureaucracy. It's going to, maybe it's going to be a little capricious,

00:36:23.600 but it's going to have energy and pull us toward utopia and toward progress. I think that's what

00:36:27.940 they believe. I think that's what progressives have believed since at least Woodrow Wilson.

00:36:31.300 And this guy's just saying it. It's about time that we recognize it because the left is becoming

00:36:37.000 more brazen in the way that they're trying to bring that about. If Joe Biden becomes president,

00:36:42.620 especially if those two Republican senators in Georgia lose their runoff races, we're in a bad

00:36:49.900 position. The Democrats have already told us they're going to get rid of the filibuster. They're

00:36:53.980 going to add two new states. They've promised us, DC and Puerto Rico, which would fundamentally shift

00:36:59.360 the balance of power in the country. It would destroy the Republican party at the presidential level.

00:37:04.760 It would destroy the Republican party as a national governing party.

00:37:07.220 They would obviously institute their radical agenda, issues like the Green New Deal,

00:37:16.980 mass redistribution of wealth, a new racial caste system, which they've been pushing for,

00:37:21.180 all those sorts of things. That is now a mainstream view. Now there is some pushback.

00:37:26.820 There is a little bit of push. I mean, the place you see the scientific view of politics most clearly

00:37:31.620 is with this coronavirus epidemic where the experts who now, I guess, rule us more than the

00:37:37.120 elected officials. They just changed their mind. One day they said, you can't wear a mask. It's the

00:37:41.300 scientific view. If you wear a mask, you're an idiot, you're harming people. Then the day after 1.00

00:37:44.700 that, they say, you have to wear a mask. If you don't wear a mask, you're harming people. And we

00:37:48.020 just have to pretend like they didn't say the other thing the day before. We just have to pretend like

00:37:52.120 they're not contradicting themselves. We're not allowed to ask a question. If you even ask a question,

00:37:56.240 you are killing people because you're depriving the scientific government of energy.

00:38:00.080 And that is irresponsible. It's reckless. It's anti-American. There is some pushback

00:38:05.380 against that, against that creeping bureaucracy that governs according to quote unquote scientific

00:38:10.740 norms. That's outside the bounds of constitutional government. Just up in Buffalo, New York,

00:38:15.340 a guy had his business raided by these thugs from the government. These thugs came in and they wanted

00:38:21.020 to make him wear masks and they wanted to enforce all of these capricious rules that are written by 0.95

00:38:25.240 egghead bureaucrats and change every single day. And this business owner wasn't going to take it

00:38:30.120 anymore. And this business owner stood up to those cops and told them to get out of his store.

00:38:35.380 People actually work for their money and they don't want to lose their livelihood. I've lost

00:38:39.580 friends. I've lost family who've killed themselves. I've seen clients die because they've lost their

00:38:44.420 livelihood. I'm sorry to hear that. I know you are. And I'm just, I'm asking for you to guys have

00:38:48.620 some compassion for the people that have lost everything. We do have compassion for people.

00:38:53.800 Okay. Well, you need to go have compassion out in the parking lot. This is private property.

00:38:57.100 This is private property. This is private property. It's private property. Listen,

00:39:03.940 man, this is private property. They're not wanted here. So do your jobs. Well, her job is. Well,

00:39:09.660 no, no, your job is to remove people that are not wanted here. They're not.

00:39:14.300 She's hiding her name. She had her name. They're just doing that job. There we go.

00:39:20.480 You should don't be wearing masks. I'm not doing anything wrong.

00:39:23.100 Don't worry about my health. My health isn't your concern. You're meant to be wearing a

00:39:26.280 mask. Is it going to be wearing a mask? Okay. Well then write me up. It's the law. Okay. Then

00:39:29.240 take me to jail. It's not the law. Then take me to jail. Show me the law. Show me the law.

00:39:36.980 I don't know why that one sheriff's deputy sounds like he's vaguely British or Canadian or something,

00:39:52.720 but it's so fitting because you get this American, just great American man. And he's like,

00:39:57.320 get out of my business. You people are violating the law. GTFO basically, right? That's the subtext

00:40:03.640 of everything he's saying. And then this, this ridiculous bureaucrat, this, this awful 0.99

00:40:11.820 underminer of our, of our legal order. He goes, well, you, you, you're, you're meant to be wearing 0.98

00:40:15.980 a mask. You're, you're, you're, you're, come on, you should be, well, where's the law? Show it's,

00:40:20.420 oh, you should wear a mask. Come on. It's not a big deal. Well, if it's not a big deal,

00:40:24.140 why are you invading my business? Why are you, isn't it, doesn't this risk more lives by you coming

00:40:30.500 in here? You could spread it. Who knows? It'd be a super spreader event.

00:40:33.640 No, it's just a flex of power. Well, you're meant to be wearing a mask. No, I'm not.

00:40:38.920 I'm not meant to be wearing a mask. I'm a human being and I'm meant to breathe fresh air and I'm

00:40:43.620 meant to be a social creature and I'm meant to see other people and see smiles and communicate

00:40:48.440 with people because that is the, what perhaps the defining feature of my humanity. So I'm not meant

00:40:53.380 to be wearing a mask. These guys don't back down. And finally, because they can't produce a

00:41:00.280 warrant the cops, they can't, they got nothing. Finally, they leave.

00:41:04.680 You don't get to violate the constitution. It's just the code. It's not the law. It's the

00:41:10.360 code that some bureaucrat wrote. So you have no legal remedies to that.

00:41:13.920 Oh, what the? Oh, what the? Oh, God.

00:41:16.200 You guys just start chanting at these, these just dunce cops. 0.99

00:41:19.920 they're on the phone. I don't know why the Americans won't let us come in and take away 0.94

00:41:32.440 all of their rights and invade their businesses. Yeah, damn right. Damn right. The left is furious 0.96

00:41:41.120 that they can't come up with new codes every single day, capricious new regulations and

00:41:45.820 enforce them willy-nilly. But then the left is furious when just laws are actually enforced.

00:41:52.500 Give you an example. Just over the past few days, Orlando Hall was executed by the state.

00:41:59.280 Orlando Hall, and people are very upset. I think he was a black man, so they're making a racial issue

00:42:03.720 out of this as well. Obviously, it has nothing to do with his crime or the way he was convicted and

00:42:08.860 the way that he was executed. But they're trying to make a racial issue out of it. Then they're

00:42:12.500 trying to say the death penalty is illegitimate per se. Here's one writer from The Atlantic.

00:42:16.720 There will never be a day when the death penalty is anything other than utterly cruel and barbaric.

00:42:21.820 But this execution is made particularly horrific by the fact that Orlando Hall

00:42:25.720 is the first person to be executed by a lame duck administration in over 100 years.

00:42:32.680 No, he was executed by the criminal justice system and a lame duck administration is another term for

00:42:38.380 the administration. It's another term for the duly elected president and the man who's tasked

00:42:42.420 with the responsibility to execute the laws. And when the law says so, to execute criminals.

00:42:48.000 Ayanna Pressley, who is the Ringo Starr of the squad, says we must abolish the death penalty. Joe Biden,

00:42:53.460 same thing, expresses his opposition to the death penalty. This is one area where conservatives

00:42:59.060 sometimes go a little squishy and get it wrong. Probably because they're following their right lights,

00:43:04.540 you know, but they just get it a little off in the beginning. Who was this poor man who was executed

00:43:10.600 by the state? Orlando Hall was convicted of kidnapping a 16-year-old Texas girl, then repeatedly

00:43:20.360 raping her, then bludgeoning her on the head with a shovel, but not killing her. He buried her alive

00:43:26.900 after he bludgeoned her with the shovel. And then because she didn't die, he doused her with gasoline

00:43:31.860 and lit her on fire. That guy, that's the guy. That's the great cause that the left is taking up.

00:43:41.060 Say, well, it's wrong for the state to kill a man. Why? Well, according to what standard?

00:43:47.060 Christianity, the Bible explicitly defends, St. Paul explicitly defends capital punishment.

00:43:53.800 The great doctors of the church explicitly defend capital punishment. St. Thomas Aquinas explicitly

00:43:58.740 defends capital punishment. Well, the, no, the church though, Catholics in particular talk about

00:44:02.820 this. Many popes not only defended the death penalty, they carried them out. Blessed Pope Pius

00:44:10.920 IX carried out many death penalties in the papal states. Justice is an important thing. Mercy is

00:44:20.520 wonderful too, especially at a personal level, but justice must be carried out. The idea that you can

00:44:25.220 give a man, I don't know, 30 years or 50 years in prison and that that's totally fine, not morally

00:44:31.740 questionable at all, but that by killing a man for the crime, letting a man stand up and hang or stand

00:44:37.320 up with a cigarette in front of a firing squad and take his just punishment, that that is somehow

00:44:41.800 unjust, immoral. It's morally incoherent to say that. Totally incoherent.

00:44:48.460 The, the victims here have some claim to justice and the state has a responsibility to exact

00:44:56.140 justice. You know, the left does pick very unpopular issues here. Very, a very, it's very

00:45:04.420 bizarre. Obviously their, their crazed opposition to the death penalty would be one example, but

00:45:10.120 another example would be this Green New Deal. So AOC, I was holding, just to show you the popularity

00:45:14.940 of the Green New Deal, $93 trillion program that would utterly upend American society and 0.95

00:45:19.280 basically overturn the constitution. AOC holds an event for the Green New Deal. She's there. She's

00:45:23.280 in the background. These two activists show up and they're so earnest and they're so ready. Oh my

00:45:28.080 gosh, you can hear the enthusiasm in everybody's voices. We're about to sing a song called We Are

00:45:32.520 Standing For Our Futures. If you know the song, sing along. If you don't know it, listen and then

00:45:37.720 sing in when you figure it out. All right. We are standing for our futures. We are healing what is

00:45:45.440 wrong. We are standing for our futures and together we are strong. This is so sad. You see like two

00:45:53.520 people in the background clapping. Even AOC can't really muster the energy to do it. We are standing

00:45:58.340 for our futures and together we are strong. Even like sort of middle-aged women who would usually 0.96

00:46:04.480 be enthusiastic for this. I can't do it. We are healing what is wrong. We are standing for our

00:46:10.140 futures and together we are strong. We are standing for our futures. We are healing what is wrong.

00:46:18.060 No, no verse. They never get to a verse. Don't get to a bridge. One more time. One more time,

00:46:25.460 everybody. Please, any of you, can you sing along? Now AOC is trying to end this place. You're making

00:46:32.980 my legislation look so sad. We are standing for our future. Is that going to be our future?

00:46:39.440 Is the Green New Deal going to be our future? Is the administrative state going to be our future?

00:46:43.820 future? Is ceding more and more control over to absolutely idiotic scientific eggheads going to 1.00

00:46:52.220 be our future? Or are we going to take our future back? There's a process that's going to play out. 1.00

00:46:57.840 We're going to have to have patience and we're going to have to keep fighting. I'm Michael Knowles.

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