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00:00:00.000 The Electoral College has voted for Joe Biden. In every single presidential election in American

00:00:07.660 history, this has meant that a president-elect has been decided upon. Except for one presidential

00:00:17.200 election, we will channel the spirit of 1876 to preserve even a shred of political hope

00:00:25.400 for President Trump and for the rest of us. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

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00:03:13.540 president. Unless we can channel the spirit of 17, I'm sorry, not 1776, 1876. Rutherford B. Hayes,

00:03:22.800 this is an outlier in American history because the electoral college gave most of its votes to

00:03:31.400 Rutherford Hayes' opponent, New York Governor Sam Tilden, who is a Democrat running against Ohio

00:03:37.900 Governor Rutherford B. Hayes, the Republican. Tilden beat Hayes on the popular vote. After the first

00:03:45.820 round of electoral votes, Tilden had 184 electoral votes to Hayes' 165 electoral votes. There were 20

00:03:54.800 electoral votes from about four states. Does this sound familiar? There were three in particular that

00:04:01.780 were really at play. Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina. Okay. Then there was also the question of

00:04:08.440 Oregon, this fourth state, where one elector was replaced after being declared illegal for being an

00:04:14.460 elected or appointed official. So you've got these four outstanding states. What are we going to do?

00:04:19.920 Sounds very, very familiar. The way they resolve this is that the constitution provides, quote,

00:04:27.600 the president of the Senate shall, in presence of the Senate and House of Representatives,

00:04:33.620 open all the electoral certificates and the votes shall then be counted. So you have, the electors go,

00:04:40.340 right, you go to vote and then the states pick a slate of electors. The electors go and they vote

00:04:44.880 in the electoral college. That's still not quite the end of it to declare the president elect because

00:04:49.400 then the president of the Senate opens the votes and the presence of the Senate and the House of

00:04:53.840 Representatives, they count the votes and then you've got the president elect. Now, this is a tricky

00:04:58.380 phrase in the constitution. During this crisis of 1876, the Republicans interpreted this provision of the

00:05:04.580 constitution to mean that the power to count the votes lay with the president of the Senate and the

00:05:10.800 House and the Senate were just there kind of to watch. But the president of the Senate had the power

00:05:14.800 to count the votes. But because the president of the Senate was Republican, then Hayes would win.

00:05:22.840 Democrats interpreted this differently. They said that they needed to follow the practice that had

00:05:27.080 been followed since 1865, which says that no vote that was objected to by anybody should be counted

00:05:34.320 except by a concurrence of both houses of Congress, the Congress and the Senate. Now, because of this,

00:05:42.100 because the Congress had a, the House of Representatives rather, had a Democrat majority, that would have

00:05:47.640 thrown the election to Tilden. So what are we to do? Even the constitution here is a little unclear. Well, what

00:05:53.040 happened is the Congress passed a law on January 29th, 1877, that formed a 15 member electoral

00:05:59.880 commission that would then determine this presidential election. Five members of the House,

00:06:05.740 five members of the Senate, five members of the Supreme Court. The effect of this is what's called

00:06:10.720 the Compromise of 1877, which gave the election to Rutherford B. Hayes, sometimes called Rutherfraud

00:06:19.840 Hayes. How do you like that? Lame political nicknames were popular even in the 19th century.

00:06:26.280 Hayes gets the presidency. However, Hayes has to promise to pull the federal troops out of the South

00:06:34.100 and end Reconstruction, which Hayes does. This has sort of calamitous effects for everybody,

00:06:41.680 but that's how that election panned out. Are we going to see something like that here? I'm not being

00:06:47.440 flippant about it. We have a hotly contested presidential election. There is evidence of

00:06:51.840 fraud, systemic fraud, actually. Some just came out within the last couple of days.

00:06:57.280 We haven't had an election this hotly contested possibly since 1876. So is this going to happen?

00:07:06.180 Are we going to get the compromise of 2021? I don't think so. Because even if you were to follow the

00:07:10.960 example of the electoral commission, let's say you got five members of the Senate and Senate's held

00:07:16.940 by Republicans. So let's say that that goes for Trump. And then you got five members of the House

00:07:21.400 and the House is controlled by Democrats. So that goes for Biden. Then you got five members of the

00:07:26.260 Supreme Court. The Supreme Court's already ruled in. They don't want to overturn the perception that

00:07:30.880 Joe Biden won the election. So presumably even on some kind of commission, electoral commission,

00:07:36.940 that would still go to Biden. So I'm not particularly hopeful. But it is at least worthwhile to

00:07:43.740 point out to people who say it's completely all over now. Technically, it's actually not

00:07:47.220 totally all over now. But it certainly looks as though it is. I think that's why President Trump

00:07:51.780 is trying to fit in so much into this last few moments here. Certainly on the vaccine. We talked

00:07:57.280 about the vaccine for the virus. But even various actions that he can take to change the bureaucracy,

00:08:03.280 actions to set up various special counsel, ways to speed up executions in the criminal justice system.

00:08:09.960 He's doing a lot of things now on the assumption that he will not be the president by the end of

00:08:15.060 January. Joe Biden, by the way, is doing everything in his power while there's still so much rancor in

00:08:20.800 the country to pretend that he's a moderate, that he's a uniter. He's not a divider, to use George

00:08:25.440 Bush's phrase, to bring people together. However, on semi-private calls, for instance, on a recent call

00:08:32.960 with civil rights leaders, Joe Biden, and when I say civil rights leaders too, we're talking about

00:08:38.280 left-wing civil rights leaders. Obviously, you've got a lot of right-wing civil rights leaders

00:08:42.540 completely kicked out of this. Joe Biden is, first of all, stumbling over his words. So it's

00:08:49.920 just the opening of this civil rights call. You think, how on earth is this guy even going to

00:08:55.440 pretend to assume the presentation of being president? One of the things I'd be concerned

00:09:02.360 about. Just as it was pointed out to me that you wanted me to be concerned, Derek, I think it was

00:09:08.100 you said it, about, you know, dealing with Vilsack in terms of agriculture. Well, first of all,

00:09:20.300 you're going to learn more about Vilsack's record. But my point is this. I don't think we should make

00:09:25.040 that a big issue going into before January 5th when the election takes place down in, in, uh, um, uh,

00:09:33.940 in, uh, Georgia. But I also don't think we should get too far ahead of ourselves on dealing with

00:09:41.020 police reform in that because they've already labeled us as being defund the police.

00:09:47.940 All right. So he's talking about January 5th. He's talking about these, these runoff races in

00:09:53.080 Georgia, where you've got the, the fate of the Senate is, is up in the air. The Republicans going

00:09:58.900 to hold the Senate and stop Biden's agenda, or are the Democrats going to win the Senate? And who

00:10:04.200 knows? And the filibuster, add new states, possibly eliminate the Republicans as a national party,

00:10:08.940 all of that on the table. And that's sort of beside the point, because from the very beginning

00:10:14.460 of this call, you just have Biden saying, uh, uh, um, where, uh, George, uh, where is it? George?

00:10:18.500 Yeah. Uh, and how, what did you say it? Or did I say it? Or, um, uh, huh? And you, you just,

00:10:24.700 you're listening to this and you think this man is just not capable of, of being president. You know,

00:10:30.200 for the left, you don't really need a, an active president, a man with original ideas, a man with a

00:10:37.820 sort of original ambition. You would need that on the right, because what the right is trying to do

00:10:43.600 in national politics right now is upset the liberal establishment. Joe Biden will just be

00:10:47.880 an avatar of that liberal establishment. That's more or less what he's saying. He's saying, look,

00:10:51.260 I'm going to continue along the same path that we've been on for a very long time. But just as

00:10:57.980 we've had to do in years past, we've got to pretend that we're not moving far left because there's this

00:11:03.320 Senate race. So we've got to pretend that we're moderate until the Senate race, because they're

00:11:07.820 already saying that we are in favor of defunding the police. But the question that, that Joe Biden

00:11:15.180 is, uh, leaving open here is, are they really in favor of defunding the police? Are they really in

00:11:21.200 favor of radical criminal justice reform? That's going to get, let a lot of criminals off the hook

00:11:25.660 that it's going to punish a lot of police officers or not? Which is it, Joe? Is it, are you going to be

00:11:30.440 moderate old Joe from Scranton? Or are you going to let the left wing establishment continue down their

00:11:37.260 terrifying path to quote unquote progress? And Joe answers his own question. He says, yeah,

00:11:42.780 we're talking like moderates now, but don't worry. We will govern as radicals. Anything we put forward

00:11:49.580 in terms of the organizational structure to change policing, which I promise you will occur. Promise

00:11:55.640 you just think to yourself and give me advice whether we should do that before January 5th, because

00:12:01.780 that's how they beat the living hell out of us across the country saying that we're talking

00:12:07.160 about defunding the police. We're not. We're talking about holding them accountable. I just

00:12:12.520 raise it with you to think about how much do we push between now and January 5th. We need those two

00:12:20.160 seats about police reform, but I guarantee you there will be a full blown commission. I guarantee you

00:12:28.120 it's a major, major, major element. And as Reverend Al said, I was, I was a pain in the ass to everybody

00:12:36.260 except him when we did the commission before. I didn't think we went far enough. We can go

00:12:41.620 very far. It matters how we do it. We can go very, very far. Don't worry guys. We're going to be as

00:12:50.240 radical as you want us to be, but we've got to lie about that first so that we can secure the Senate

00:12:55.500 majority so that we can actually get it done. Because if we admit how radical we really are,

00:13:00.960 then the Republicans are going to beat the hell out of us. Joe Biden's words kind of raises some

00:13:05.860 questions about how he ended up winning that election. If the Republicans were really beating

00:13:09.480 the hell out of them all around the country, but look, they're going to, they're going to beat the

00:13:13.380 hell out of us like they've been doing. And so we've got to lie to them first, but then I promise you

00:13:18.660 we will be just as radical as you want us to be. I've thought this about Joe Biden from the very

00:13:25.380 beginning. He was in some ways a strong candidate because of how weak and old and out of touch

00:13:30.800 he looks is he doesn't scare those moderate voters who maybe don't like some of President

00:13:35.880 Trump's eccentricities, or maybe just don't like the idea that he's actually, Trump actually has

00:13:41.420 changed in some ways that establishment. He's actually cracked a little bit of the establishment's

00:13:46.780 hold on our politics. But what is, what is Joe Biden really deep down? Joe Biden is an avatar for the

00:13:54.240 prevailing popular political wins in his party. And those wins are extraordinarily focused toward

00:14:02.140 the left. That's what, what you're going to get. But that phrase, it did raise questions to me,

00:14:08.100 even beyond obvious, we now know, I think Joe Biden's going to govern as a left winger because

00:14:12.840 it won't even be him governing. It'll just be the, the left wing establishment. But that phrase in

00:14:19.020 there, they beat the, the Republicans beat the hell out of us around the country. Joe is given to

00:14:23.440 these sort of Freudian slips. You, you hear him do this sometimes where he says, we've got,

00:14:28.720 do you remember the other one during the campaign? He said, we've got the most extensive voter fraud

00:14:32.400 system ever constructed. He said, what? He said, oh no, yeah, I meant to say anti-voter fraud system or

00:14:39.160 yeah, whatever. Yeah, hummina, hummina, hummina. That's what I meant. Well, when you say these things,

00:14:43.140 you have to look into the claims of irregularities. In Michigan, there was a judge who just unsealed

00:14:51.960 an order on this kind of electoral fraud. And what the auditors found on these voting machines is

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00:16:32.920 machines in Michigan. And here is what they found. The Antrim County Clerk and Secretary of State

00:16:42.780 Jocelyn Benson stated that the election night error of flipping votes from Trump to Biden was the result

00:16:49.860 of human error caused by the failure to update the Mansalona Township tabulator prior to election night

00:16:56.860 for a down ballot race. This is according to the report from the people who did the forensic audit,

00:17:03.460 Allied Security Operations Group. The report concludes, we disagree and conclude that the vote flip occurred

00:17:11.240 because of machine error built into the voting software designed to create error. We conclude that the

00:17:20.220 Dominion voting system is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic

00:17:28.840 fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot

00:17:37.120 errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk

00:17:43.060 adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election

00:17:49.900 fraud. Therefore, this Allied Security Operations Group includes that Dominion should not be used in Michigan

00:17:57.340 and that the Antrim County results, quote, should not have been certified. This forensic audit, which I wish

00:18:06.940 had taken place in other places around the country on other voting machines, is very telling because you've had

00:18:13.560 these vague allegations from the beginning that the voting machines are, resulted in a fraudulent

00:18:19.800 election. I have no doubt that these voting machines are vulnerable to fraud. The left has acknowledged

00:18:26.760 this in years past, but now that it seems to benefit them, all of a sudden they're mum about it. And we've

00:18:31.720 heard vague tale of the Kraken and we've heard vague tale of foreign actors interfering in the elections and

00:18:37.860 hacking and the machines being connected to the internet. And it's all been kind of vague. This is the first time

00:18:43.460 we've seen a pretty specific audit of, of how fraud potentially could have occurred. And it's a little

00:18:49.560 different than the way that we'd heard. The way that these, these auditors are saying the fraud

00:18:53.460 occurred, and you can read about this, I think there's a Washington Times piece also outlining this

00:18:58.520 right now on the internet. The way that they're alleging it occurred is the machine did not just go in and

00:19:04.420 flip the ballots from Biden to Trump or, you know, just necessarily go in and allow foreign actors who

00:19:10.840 are actively monitoring this to skim certain ballots. What this audit found is the, all the

00:19:16.920 machines had to do was generate enough errors, a huge amount of error. The auditors here, according to

00:19:21.340 the Washington Times, found a 68% error rate in one county's votes. You generate so many errors that

00:19:28.100 then you've got to go in and adjudicate those ballots. And when you're, when you're going in and

00:19:32.620 figuring out what those ballots say, you don't have any oversight. You don't have the poll watchers.

00:19:38.060 You don't have people who will insist upon transparency. And then you can count them however

00:19:44.620 you want. That's the claim, at least from this one group. How many similar claims would you see

00:19:50.440 around the country? How many voting machines were used? What happens when you've got the voting

00:19:55.240 machines and pair that with widespread unsolicited mail-in ballots? Do we really have faith in these

00:20:01.580 results? What I will tell you is I don't have faith in the way that the elections were conducted

00:20:09.500 in the different states. I don't. And most Republicans agree with me, by the way, don't

00:20:13.060 have faith in it. I do have faith in the constitutional system, which is actually a

00:20:18.500 separate question. The way the constitution provides for the president to be elected is

00:20:22.780 that electors show up and vote and then the Congress will certify the votes and then that's

00:20:29.900 it. Then you get a new president. And because that's the constitutional system, whatever those

00:20:35.520 guys say, that is our president. And I accept that constitutional framework. But in terms of how

00:20:42.940 these machines conducted the ballots, in terms of how election officials conducted the counts,

00:20:49.480 especially in Georgia where they just sent the legally mandated poll watchers home and then

00:20:54.480 illegally counted the ballots for several more hours, especially in Philadelphia where Republican

00:20:59.080 poll watchers were not able to get close up and look at the actual ballots. I don't have any faith

00:21:04.100 in that. And that is a travesty. There, there do remain serious questions about how that election

00:21:10.200 was conducted. It's not just in Michigan. Georgia now in Cobb County is requiring a signature audit.

00:21:16.520 President Trump's been calling for a signature audit for a month now. What's a signature audit?

00:21:22.460 That's where you make sure that the ballots that were cast were actually cast by the people who

00:21:25.980 were eligible to cast them. Because if you just go back, if you just take a bunch of ballots,

00:21:30.240 especially with widespread unsolicited mail-in, and then you just take the batch of ballots and

00:21:34.280 you run them through the machine and you say, okay, there's the count. Say, okay, we're gonna have

00:21:37.160 a recount. Okay, fine. Go for the recount. You just count the same ballots again. That's not going to do

00:21:40.680 anything. That's why Trump was calling the recount in Georgia useless. And frankly, even the governor,

00:21:47.360 who's now everyone's beating up on Brian Kemp, but he was saying, look, come on, we need a signature audit.

00:21:51.440 Okay, well, get it though. Get us the signature audit. Well, now we got the signature audit.

00:21:56.340 Too late. It's too late. The Secretary of State of Georgia has announced there will be a signature

00:22:03.180 audit of votes in Cobb County and he may expand the audit statewide. Okay, great. That and a buck

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00:23:40.000 and unless we invoke the spirit of 1876, he will. We need to look at what the left is proposing for

00:23:48.800 us because Joe Biden admitted on that phone call. He said, look, yeah, we're going to talk like

00:23:52.980 moderates, but we're going to govern like radicals. And right now, Joe Biden's saying,

00:23:55.800 we need healing. We need unity. You know, a lot of the left is paying lip service to this.

00:24:01.260 But then they let the mask slip every once in a while. My favorite, of course, being

00:24:04.840 Debra Messing. Debra Messing played Grace on the 90s sitcom Will and Grace. To my knowledge,

00:24:12.720 that's the last thing she ever did. But for some reason, she's a blue checkmark and she's still

00:24:16.920 spouts off about politics and people still listen to her. Debra Messing shows you just how out for blood

00:24:23.620 the left is. They just, they hate Trump. They want to punish him after he leaves office,

00:24:30.520 which I hope happens in four years or eight years or 12 years or I don't know, 16 years.

00:24:35.320 But it's looking more likely that it will be sooner than that. So Debra Messing initially

00:24:41.240 tweets out, she says that she hopes that President Trump becomes the most popular boyfriend in prison.

00:24:49.060 You see, this is because he'll go to a prison and there'll only be men in this prison and that he'll

00:24:56.860 be, I assume he won't become a homosexual overnight. So he'll be probably, you know, preyed upon by these,

00:25:04.240 these predators in prison. That's, that's the implication, right? But Debra Messing, because

00:25:09.220 she's a left winger, always has to pay lip service to how she's pro LGBT LMNOP. She's an ally. She

00:25:17.880 loves all these sorts of different sexual preferences and behaviors. And so her tweet

00:25:23.640 sounded, to use a popular word, homophobic, right? Because she's saying, I hope you're the

00:25:30.040 most popular boyfriend, but Trump's not a homosexual. So what's that mean? Well, she wants,

00:25:34.620 she clarified it, okay? So she issued this apology, quote, let me be clear. I said nothing about

00:25:40.860 LGBTQI slash queer slash queer. What's the Q? There's already a Q in there. There's two queers.

00:25:48.860 Who knows? Love. I didn't say anything about that love. Rape is an act of violence. Trump has

00:25:54.980 perpetrated violence on hundreds of millions of people. My hope is, and this is the first time in

00:25:58.700 my life, that the tables are turned and he is the victim of perpetrators. Hashtag LGBTQIA ally.

00:26:07.600 But there's another letter in there than there was in the first acronym, whatever, or the first

00:26:12.260 initialism. You see, Deborah Messing was not in any way hoping that President Trump would participate

00:26:21.860 in consensual homosexual love. She's hoping he'll get raped by a man, by a gay guy. She wants,

00:26:29.460 just to clear it up because she's an ally to the gay LGBTQ community. And I know maybe she didn't use

00:26:36.100 the right choice of words. She's hoping that a gay inmate rapes the president of the United States,

00:26:42.400 which is, that's obviously so much better. Hope this clears it up. She wasn't making a homophobic

00:26:48.060 comment. She was making light of rape. Hashtag ally. Hashtag love wins. Hashtag love Trump's hate.

00:26:57.560 Hashtag Deborah Messing hopes the president of the United States gets raped by a homosexual convict.

00:27:03.440 She deleted that one. That one didn't, didn't play very, very well. Sort of like just digging that

00:27:13.960 hole, making matters worse. So then she issued another apology. She tried again. Quote,

00:27:20.340 I'd like to say that I've been an LGBTQIA ally for decades. So she added the A. The first time she said

00:27:26.760 she was the, she liked all the sorts of love. She didn't have the A, but now she has the A again.

00:27:31.380 Maybe the third apology is you'll have another letter in there. I was in no way referencing

00:27:36.460 LGBTQI slash queer. Nope, no more A. Love slash sexuality. Okay. Yeah, I think she already mentioned

00:27:45.620 that, right? It is not my proudest moment, but 45 has victim, victimized hundreds of millions of

00:27:50.720 people. I had wished the tables turned on him. I apologize for the offensive way I did it.

00:27:55.640 Um, so, uh, so, so she's not referencing anything having to do with homosexuality or anything like

00:28:07.800 that. Um, she is still hoping that he is raped by an inmate. You know, she's still like wants him to

00:28:15.720 be in prison, but not by a same sex inmate, not by a male inmate, not by a gay inmate. So she wants,

00:28:23.380 if I'm understanding this correctly, Deborah Messing wants the president of the United States

00:28:28.380 to go to prison and I get maybe a molt, uh, a prison with men and women at it. I don't think

00:28:36.260 there are many of those, but anyway, assuming he goes to a regular prison, she wants the president

00:28:41.080 to be raped by a woman who sneaks into the prison. It wouldn't be a conjugal visit because that of

00:28:49.560 course would be consensual. So she wants a woman to sneak into a male prison and rape the president.

00:28:54.980 Sorry for any confusion that she's caused. You know, I mean, all jokes aside, she obviously has

00:29:01.540 an extraordinarily incoherent view of sex and love and politics and everything else.

00:29:07.380 The left, I, no, I guess they don't really take sexual assault seriously. I was going to say that

00:29:12.720 they take it seriously because they talk about me too, you know, the campus rape epidemic where they

00:29:16.620 say one in four women at Harvard Yard are raped, you know, on college campuses as though the American

00:29:22.460 university campuses is more dangerous than Fallujah or something, obviously ridiculous,

00:29:27.800 but they don't take it seriously, right? I mean, if, if the left took sexual assault and rape seriously,

00:29:33.980 they would want those crimes to be prosecuted by the criminal justice system. They would want

00:29:39.660 the perpetrators of those crimes to face real consequences, face trial and then go to prison.

00:29:44.840 But that's not what they do. What they set up are these ridiculous tribunals on university campuses

00:29:49.680 where professors decide to expel students because of these, but they never face any

00:29:54.900 actual criminal justice. They never actually face trials or anything like that. They go to the Me Too

00:30:00.400 and they get some director fired or something. They never really, with a few exceptions, they never

00:30:06.180 push for them to, to have justice because they don't, they don't take this seriously.

00:30:10.140 And especially when the left transgresses these sorts of politically correct codes or, or even

00:30:18.260 legitimate, you know, criminal codes, traditional moral order, they don't really hold them to

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00:31:57.140 There is a sexual harassment claim against New York governor Andrew Cuomo known among a certain

00:32:16.960 segment of New Yorkers as Andrew COVID because his policies were extraordinarily deadly for older,

00:32:25.020 especially older New Yorkers with regard to the coronavirus. He's being hailed as the greatest

00:32:29.960 governor in America on this topic. He's actually the worst governor in America on this topic.

00:32:34.240 And apparently he's been harassing people about many other things, not just whether or not they

00:32:39.240 could go to church, not just whether or not they could show up and have holidays with their families.

00:32:43.680 A former employee, Lindsay Boylan says, she tweeted this out, quote, yes,

00:32:47.920 New York governor Cuomo sexually harassed me for years. Many saw it and watched. I could never

00:32:55.400 anticipate what to expect. Would I be grilled on my work, which was very good or harassed about my

00:33:01.600 looks or would it be both in the same conversation? This was the way for years, not knowing what to

00:33:07.720 expect. What's the most upsetting part aside from knowing that no one would do a damn thing,

00:33:13.980 even when they saw it? No one. And I know I'm not the only woman. I'm angry to be put in this

00:33:20.760 situation at all, that because I am a woman, I can work hard my whole life to better myself and

00:33:26.300 help others and yet still fall victim as countless women over generations have. Mostly silently, I hate

00:33:32.880 that some men like New York governor Cuomo abuse their power. I would love it if Andrew Cuomo would

00:33:41.620 leave the national political stage. I think he's just terrible and he obviously has higher aspirations

00:33:49.620 and I hope that those aspirations fail. I am skeptical of this woman's account. I try to at

00:33:56.120 least have a consistent standard here when it comes to these sort of allegations. Anybody can make an

00:33:59.900 allegation. They often come at politically opportune times. This woman put this in a long thread about

00:34:05.980 the broader topic of sexual harassment, which makes me skeptical because it would appear that there is

00:34:11.860 an ideological message here and then this Cuomo thing is being used to, to justify that, but it's

00:34:18.660 not being made separately. It's not saying this, here's an actual thing that just happened. I want

00:34:22.360 to tell you about it. She said it went on for years and years. If this of course raises the question,

00:34:26.420 if this was such harassment, why did she permit it to go on for years and years? Why, why not report it at

00:34:31.840 the time? Why not quit? Why not file a formal complaint? Why not accuse him? Because then there

00:34:37.980 would be a formal inquiry and then who knows? I am a little skeptical, especially with the timing

00:34:43.700 because Cuomo is apparently up for attorney general in a Biden administration. This woman is also

00:34:49.780 apparently running for borough president in New York City. So it just, I just don't buy it. I would not

00:34:56.820 bet money that this really happened. And I certainly wouldn't bet money that this is going to go

00:35:01.640 anywhere, even if it did happen. Andrew Cuomo abuses his power. There is no doubt about that. This guy's

00:35:07.540 a complete bulldog and he comes from a political family and I just don't like him. But I'm not so

00:35:14.000 sure it happened. And Cuomo for his part is denying that anything did happen. I heard about the tweet

00:35:21.800 and what it said about comments that I had made. And it's not true, Zach. Look, I, I fought for,

00:35:34.700 and I believe a woman has the right to come forward and express her opinion and express issues and

00:35:42.400 concerns that she has. But it's, it's just not true. Fair enough. Fair enough. If, if I were

00:35:51.580 Andrew Cuomo right now, I'm up for attorney general, you've got this other politician who's

00:35:55.080 running for another office and she makes this claim years after anything allegedly happened,

00:36:00.020 I would probably, and assuming it's, it's not true, I would, I would, I would have the same answer.

00:36:06.420 Which would be consistent. It's not consistent for the left to have that answer because the left has

00:36:10.180 foisted a new standard on all of us over the past five years or so. That new standard is the

00:36:16.620 politically correct standard of me too, of believe all women. But the left doesn't really believe all

00:36:21.500 women. They want to make, they want everyone to believe all women when there's an accusation,

00:36:25.620 no matter how ludicrous against a Republican. But they want the left to believe no women when there's

00:36:30.360 a claim against a Democrat. So he, he comes out and he changes it. It's no longer, I believe women

00:36:36.540 have a right to be believed, which is what Hillary Clinton said before she stopped believing women and

00:36:41.560 after she stopped believing women. He says, I fought for, and I believe that women have the

00:36:46.680 right to state their opinion. Uh-huh. Yeah, man. Does anybody, who out there agrees that women have

00:36:55.220 the right to state their opinion? Yeah, all the hands go up in the audience, right? That's very

00:37:00.680 different than what the left has been telling us. But it just didn't happen. It just, none of this

00:37:05.060 happened. It didn't, I am going to be the attorney general. I am Andrew Cuomo, the anointed Andrew

00:37:11.920 Cuomo. Of course, that, that standard is the issue. I keep going back to this topic because I think the,

00:37:19.460 the only way we're going to be able to fight the politically correct, the woke standards

00:37:24.360 is to offer a standard of our own. And so I'm not just saying, believe all women. And I'm not saying,

00:37:31.360 believe no women. And I'm not saying none of these things can be true. I'm not saying always go after

00:37:35.920 the Democrat. Here's my standard. If a person is going to make a claim like this, then we have to

00:37:43.520 take factors into account. The timing of the claim, the character of the person making the claim,

00:37:49.320 the character of the person who's being accused, the way in which the claim is being made, the proper

00:37:54.820 channels that the claim is going through. Is it going through the criminal justice system? Is it going

00:37:58.240 through, I don't know, HR? Is it, or is it just being made on Twitter as part of a broader narrative?

00:38:02.540 And you adjudicate it. And then you believe some women and you disbelieve other women,

00:38:08.940 just as you would believe some men and disbelieve other men. Sexual politics is very confusing these

00:38:15.620 days, especially after reading Deborah Messing and then reading Andrew Cuomo. But I think you're not

00:38:21.500 going to be able to go to some, some neutral standards, some default standard. You always are going to

00:38:27.500 have premises here about sex, about men and women, about love, about marriage, about politics,

00:38:31.660 about everything. And the left has all of those. And they're sort of even being honest about it.

00:38:37.760 And the right is pretending, no, we'll just go to some neutral default playing ground. I don't think

00:38:41.040 so. We need to have our own standards too. Sexual politics changing all the time. A left winger is in

00:38:46.640 trouble for this. James Corden, who is a late night talk show host, and he's a Broadway guy.

00:38:51.260 James Corden is now being accused of wearing gay face. And I said, what is gay face? What is going

00:38:59.660 to come up on Google when I search that term gay face? Gay face is a new politically correct piece

00:39:05.680 of jargon. I think it was invented five minutes ago to refer to a straight man playing a gay man

00:39:10.940 in the way that, you know, a white guy playing a black guy is now black face, you know, or brown face

00:39:17.620 as Justin Trudeau. When he got caught wearing black face, he had to say he was wearing brown

00:39:20.520 face to make it seem a little better. Well, now there's gay face. So James Corden is in this movie.

00:39:26.060 It's called The Prom. It's on Netflix. And it's being directed by Ryan Murphy. And now they're very

00:39:33.680 upset because they say he should have cast a gay actor. Now, what does that mean? We now have this

00:39:39.180 very sexual essentialist idea. You are either gay or you are not gay, right? You're born this way. It's

00:39:44.860 immutable. It's your sexual orientation. Nothing about your sexual orientation can change. That's

00:39:49.160 what we've been told for 20, 30 years and by the sort of LGBT evolving movement. But then now we're

00:39:54.400 also told the opposite. We're being told sexuality is changeable. It's mutable. I can identify however

00:39:59.640 I want. I can pursue whatever person I want. I can have whatever desires I want. My desires can change.

00:40:05.140 Well, in that, if that's true, then the sort of born this way argument gets a little weakened.

00:40:09.260 And certainly the gay face argument gets weakened because a guy can, can do whatever he wants. To give

00:40:14.480 you a sense of this performance, there's just a little, little few seconds of it during the

00:40:20.620 Netflix trailer, James Corden does play up the flamboyance. Okay, well, let's give this girl a

00:40:26.460 frog. So it's stereotypically gay. Now we all know gay people who behave exactly like that. And frankly,

00:40:34.620 that's muted compared to some of the gay people that I'm sure all of us know. But this is considered

00:40:39.620 too flamboyant. You've got to play gay guys as, I don't know, straight guys or something. I don't

00:40:44.740 know. You can't, you can't point out that there are certain characteristics and cultural attributes

00:40:49.280 that go along with that particular persuasion. I will tell you, I didn't realize James Corden

00:40:54.540 was straight. I thought I, he's a Broadway guy. He's a show business guy. I assumed he was a gay guy

00:41:01.800 and apparently not. Now he's, he's getting in trouble for this, but it's, it's always shifting.

00:41:06.300 It's always, it began with you, you can't play a Native American. You know, the most famous Native

00:41:13.640 American in American pop culture is the, the crying Native American, you know, with the teardrop

00:41:18.620 at Woodstock. That guy was Italian. He wasn't Native American. And now when you add in the

00:41:24.980 transgender ideology to the mix, all of a sudden it gets even more confusing. It's so confusing that

00:41:30.580 even Family Guy, which is a liberal channel or a liberal show rather, created by a liberal

00:41:36.280 showrunner, Seth MacFarlane. They even made fun of, uh, transgender ideology in relation to,

00:41:44.980 uh, Christmas and the nativity. Take a listen.

00:41:48.680 All right. Time to put up the 2020 Christmas decorations. First, ethnically accurate Jesus

00:41:56.380 goes right here next to Father Mary and Mother Josephine, followed closely by the three genderless

00:42:01.780 wise people on their bird scooters, Tig Notaro for some reason, and of course the little drummer

00:42:06.920 them, because God forbid we call a boy a boy. Dad, what do you think? I don't like what the world is.

00:42:12.480 I'm white. When's it going to be our turn? Now this is actually a very complex joke because it's

00:42:18.980 Seth MacFarlane. It's got to be somewhat blasphemous. I'm just going to look past that for the moment

00:42:22.980 to analyze the joke, uh, because, uh, because it's funny because transgenderism as an ideology doesn't

00:42:31.560 make any sense whatsoever. MacFarlane, who's a funny guy has to make a joke about it,

00:42:36.400 but because it's a liberal show, he's got to also make a joke at conservative expense.

00:42:42.460 So it begins with, uh, this idea that Jesus is black, right? Ethnically, it's a little black

00:42:49.580 plaster doll who's standing in for Jesus. He says, ethnically accurate Jesus. Now you wonder,

00:42:55.720 is this a joke about black nationalism, which says that all great historical figures were black,

00:42:59.400 or is this a joke about, is it actually the case that some people believe this? Who knows? Then,

00:43:03.800 you know, it gets into all the crazy gender stuff and Tignataro and right, there's a comedian who's

00:43:09.020 not the most feminine comedian. And so, okay, now you realize you're making a joke about that.

00:43:14.360 And he says, cause we can't just call a boy a boy. And, but is that, is that going to be the final

00:43:18.060 point of the joke? No, they wouldn't let him get away with it. So then the joke has to be about how

00:43:21.380 straight white guys are stodgy and conservative and they won't, you know, they, they think that

00:43:26.980 they're the victims, right? So there are actually like four jokes in this, but one of the jokes,

00:43:30.660 which is a legitimate joke is at the expense of gender ideology. But which is it? We're in this

00:43:37.680 moment of flux. We're in this music where, where even this comedy show can't decide which, I can't

00:43:42.860 go for the fully conservative target. I can't go for the fully left-wing target. And then speaking of

00:43:47.560 white guys, speaking of white guys, the Cleveland Indians, one of the holdouts against the politically

00:43:54.200 correct culture, the Cleveland Indians are changing their name. I think my first baseball game I ever saw

00:44:00.660 was the Yankees versus the Indians in the playoffs in 90, was it 98 maybe? It's very sad. I always

00:44:07.680 liked the Indians. The Cleveland Indians are going to lose the name Indians. Just like Land O'Lakes

00:44:17.200 butter lost the Indian woman sitting on the front of the box. Just like Aunt Jemima lost Aunt Jemima.

00:44:26.020 No longer is Aunt Jemima even on the pancake syrup. Why? What is offensive about calling the team the

00:44:36.140 Indians? What is offensive about having an Indian on the Land O'Lakes butter box? What is offensive

00:44:43.260 about having Aunt Jemima on the bottle? In the case of those latter two, that Land O'Lakes Indian

00:44:49.440 was illustrated by an Indian man, by Native American. And now the work of that Native American man

00:44:58.820 written out, deleted. Aunt Jemima was a black character played by a black woman invented by a

00:45:07.060 black man, a black comedy writer. Everything about Aunt Jemima was authentically black. You know,

00:45:14.060 it wasn't just the creation of some awful white oppressor who drew the character and then had a

00:45:20.020 white guy in blackface play the character. No, it was black performers who created it. And now,

00:45:28.460 overwhelmingly white, politically correct people are writing these groups out of our history

00:45:33.640 because the culture, the politically correct culture, is uncomfortable with difference.

00:45:40.060 They always would do that. Before the Washington football team changed the name

00:45:43.240 from, changed their name from the Redskins, every few years you'd see a poll of Indian groups

00:45:48.820 that'd say, are you offended by the Redskins name? And overwhelmingly, 90% plus of them would say,

00:45:53.580 no, we don't care. But liberal white people cared a lot. And I suspect it's the same thing with the

00:45:59.980 Cleveland Indians. Obviously, there's nothing offensive about recognizing these different groups

00:46:06.120 in our culture. But what the left can't handle that there is cultural difference,

00:46:11.720 that there is such a thing as Indians, that there is such a history as black people have had in

00:46:17.980 America, that there is such a thing as Native Americans from the land of lakes. They can't

00:46:25.440 handle that. So it all has to be the same. They can't handle that gay people in gay culture have

00:46:32.380 certain eccentricities that are identifiable. And we all know what it is. And that's why they're

00:46:37.140 calling it gay face. They can't handle any of that. You know, it's become tired and cliche to

00:46:43.000 say that the left wants diversity, but they don't really celebrate diversity in any way. But, you know,

00:46:47.060 it remains true. This is the effect of an abstract, rationalist, utterly homogenizing ideology that the

00:46:56.800 left has. That everything just has to be up in the realm of ideas and it's all got to be exactly the

00:47:01.840 same. And we can't celebrate the differences of life that are kind of interesting and amusing.

00:47:07.700 And maybe they're not always great, but they're kind of funny. Who knows? You know, it makes,

00:47:11.820 gives zest to life, which conservatives do. These conservatives oppose this kind of idea that

00:47:16.680 we should have an abstract rationalism as our ultimate political vision. We kind of like that

00:47:23.020 things are weird in this world. We know that this is a fallen world, first of all. We know that things

00:47:27.260 are going to have imperfections. We know that we're going to have imperfections and other people are,

00:47:30.760 and they're going to sometimes show themselves differently. And, and we approach these matters

00:47:37.300 through prudence and we, we approach them through practicality. Who cares if it works in theory?

00:47:41.700 Does it work in practice? Well, the left flips that entirely. Even, you know, as they've tried to,

00:47:48.280 from the very, the very moment of election night, when all the votes started to flip for Biden,

00:47:52.280 say, okay, that's it. Now it's done. That's over. Now it's president. Well, probably,

00:47:56.240 probably Joe Biden is going to become the president. There are some eccentricities left.

00:48:00.500 If we summon the spirit of 1876, wouldn't that be wild? Wouldn't that be just absolutely

00:48:05.860 wonderful? Not holding my breath for it, but the world is full of wonder and difference and

00:48:11.360 surprises. We'll have more surprises tomorrow. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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