Ep. 684 - Fauci Unchained
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Dr. Anthony Fauci talks about the differences between working for Joe Biden and working for President Trump, and why he couldn t be happier. He also talks about how he s liberated from being the spokesperson for the previous administration, and what it s like working for the new president.
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Dr. Fauci feels liberated. Dr. Fauci was just giving a press conference because now, you know,
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he worked for Reagan, then he worked for Bush, then Clinton, then Bush, then Obama, then Trump.
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Now he's working for Joe Biden. Presidents come and go. Dr. Fauci remains. And he was asked
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about the differences in working for Biden and working for Trump. He couldn't be happier.
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You've joked a couple of times today already about the difference in that you feel in being
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kind of the spokesperson for this issue in this administration versus the previous one.
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Can you talk a little bit about about how you feel
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kind of released from from what you had been doing for the last year?
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Yeah, but you said I was joking about it. I was very serious about it. I wasn't joking.
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No, actually, I mean, I mean, obviously, I don't want to be going back, you know, over history. But
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it was very clear that there were things that were said, be it regarding things like hydroxychloroquine
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and other things like that, that really was uncomfortable because they were not based on
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scientific fact. I can tell you, I take no pleasure at all in being in a situation of contradicting the
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president. So it was really something that you didn't feel that you could actually say something
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and there wouldn't be any repercussions about it. The idea that you can get up here
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and talk about what you know, what the evidence, what the science is, and know that's it. Let the
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science speak. It is somewhat of a liberating feeling. It's a liberating feeling. And as Dr.
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Fauci feels more and more liberated, as Dr. Fauci has more and more liberty, our liberties seem to
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shrink, seem to decay, seem almost to disappear. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment from yesterday is from Alex Morris, who says,
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if a conservative speaks in a forest and no one is around to hear them,
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censor them anyway. That's true. This is the new opinion of the left.
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Dr. Fauci feels so liberated that he can finally discuss the science without having to say things
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that are not based in scientific fact. Like for instance, you remember at the start of the pandemic
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when Dr. Fauci came out and said, do not wear masks. Masks don't work. Masks will not stop the
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spread of a virus. Maybe they'll sort of make you feel good, but they won't actually do anything to
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stop the spread. You remember when he said that and then weeks later completely contradicted himself
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and said, now you have to wear masks. You should wear masks all the time. Then you remember weeks
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after that, as he was still discussing how much you have to wear masks and he even wore a mask in
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the middle of an empty baseball stadium right on there and he tried to dribble a pitch to the
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catcher. Then he went back to his seat. What did he do? Sitting right next to his friends,
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takes his mask off. You remember that? I'm so glad that now he doesn't feel that he has to
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contradict scientific fact. And when he was asked about this, by the way, do you know what his
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excuse was? This blatant contradiction. He said, well, look, at the time I said, don't wear masks,
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we wanted to save the masks for the healthcare workers. So we didn't want all the plebs buying
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it. You know, we didn't want all you proles buying up all the masks. Then the important elites can't
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get him. So yeah, I lied to you. I told you to, you shouldn't wear the masks at all. And then when we
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found out we had enough masks for the healthcare workers, I told you something different,
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but you should believe me now. Even though I'm telling you at this very second that I lied to you
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at the start of the pandemic, believe me now, scientific fact. What was missed, I think,
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by a lot of people in that admission that Fauci made regarding healthcare workers and the reason
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why he discouraged the masks and encouraged the masks. And the reason why he's actually said this
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even on possible death rates or survival rates, all these sorts of things. He said, he said he was
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hoping that if he gave out a certain number that could maybe push the conversation in another
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direction. He's not just reading the scientific data such as it is. He's, he's an activist. He's
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trying to push society in one direction or the other. Fair enough. That's part of his job as a
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scientist. But that's not science in the way that we're talking about it, right? In the way that
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Fauci's joking about it at the press briefing, he's saying, I just want to look, I'm just about the
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facts. I don't have a political ideology. No, you do. You do. If you're, if you're saying that
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you're going to lie to the public so that certain people can get something and certain people won't
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buy it all up, that's a political consideration. And that's what all of this is about. Fauci's
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liberation is a liberation for the technocracy. Fauci's liberation is a liberation for the blob,
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the unaccountable bureaucrats who we do not elect, who presidents come and go and they stay
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there forever. And they really are liberated under Biden because Biden is nobody. Biden is
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absolutely nothing. If you unbuttoned his suit jacket and unbuttoned his shirt, you could stick
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your hand all the way through. There's nothing but air in there. He is nothing but a vessel for that
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blob, for that liberal establishment. Most of which is beyond the scope of democratic politics. Most of
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which is the major multinational corporate interest, much of which is the big technology
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interest that controls the flow of information in the public square. Most of which is the
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administrative state that has very little connection to democratic politics. That is a liberation. But
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that liberation is directly contrary to our liberties, the liberties that we, the people,
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have enjoyed and enjoyed less and less with each passing breath that Dr. Fauci takes to regurgitate
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his ridiculous edicts in public. The greatest, the greatest regret I would say that I have from the
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Trump administration is that Trump did not get out there on day three and fire Fauci and banish him
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to a far off island. He is a power mad liar. He is so deceitful. He is utterly ignorant of political
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philosophy. He's very good at practical politics, but he's, he's either ignorant or intentionally
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deceitful about the nature of the American constitutional order and political philosophy.
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And he's a great danger to the country. And now that dude is liberated. One thing he's very happy to
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announce, Dr. Fauci, is that the United States is going to be rejoining the World Health Organization.
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You remember the, the US pulled out of the WHO because the WHO is a puppet organization for the
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Chinese Communist Party. And the WHO permitted China to have this virus fester in their country.
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They totally carried water for China. They totally lobbied for Chinese interests,
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even as the virus was beginning to spread. And the head of the, of the WHO was, was picked
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by the CCP and Dr. Fauci. So pleased to announce now that that mean old Trump is gone. Now we're
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getting back to business as usual for the liberal blob. We're going to rejoin the WHO.
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I am honored to announce that the United States will remain a member of the World Health Organization.
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Yesterday, President Biden signed the letters retracting the previous administration's
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announcement to withdraw from the organization. And those letters have been transmitted to the
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Secretary General of the United Nations and to you, Dr. Tedros, my dear friend.
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In addition to retracting the notification of withdrawal and retaining membership in the WHO,
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the United States will cease the drawdown of United States staff seconded to the WHO and will resume
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regular engagement of US government personnel with the WHO both directly and through our WHO
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collaborating centers. Dr. Tedros, my dear friend, Dr. Tedros. Dr. Tedros, who's the head of the WHO,
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was handpicked to lead that organization by the Chinese Communist Party as part of a broader
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Chinese strategy to take over these multinational international institutions, many of which fall
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under the umbrella of the United Nations, which should be bulldozed and turned into the Donald
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Trump Presidential Library and Casino. Beautiful waterfront property. I think it would be a wonderful,
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wonderful way to celebrate the first term of Trump's presidency. He's a young man compared to Joe Biden.
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There's a lot of opportunity in the future. Tedros, WHO, many of these multinational institutions,
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not just the non-governmental ones, but the corporate ones too, fall under this liberal blob and they are
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so happy. These guys are back in power. You want to see how creepy this is? There was a clip going
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around. Maybe you've heard about the conspiracy theory of the Great Reset or the idea that a lot of
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liberal people are going to exploit the coronavirus issue to reset society, rework the economy, rework
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various political orders. It's a radical, crazy conspiracy. I have no idea where they would have
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gotten this idea from. It's a very pertinent question to ask, how do we build back better?
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Do we have a chance to reset the clock and build back better than before?
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To build back better than before. Remember the terrible damage of COVID as we try to build back
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from this global pandemic. Joe Biden calls it build back better. Build back better.
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Building back better. To do things differently. To build back better.
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We're going to build it back better. And build it back better.
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My plan to build back better. Start taking all the problems that have been created in education
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and mental health and start to build back in a positive way. I have launched a booklet called
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Build Back Better. Britain After Coronavirus. It's about building this country back better.
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A growing conspiracy following it. It is called The Great Reset.
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An unprecedented opportunity to rethink and reset the ways in which we live.
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That clip could go on for several more minutes, okay? So I understand that some people get kooky
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with their theories about these kind of cabals of evil elites ruling the world. I don't think you need
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any kind of conspiracy theory. People in public, the liberal elite in public are coming out and
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saying, yes, we're going to use this as an opportunity to rework the economy, to rework
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society, to rework the political order. There's no question about that. There's obviously cooperation
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This idea of building back better, this idea of some people are calling it the great reset.
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I don't really use that term because it sounds conspiratorial and it sounds like secret and
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nefarious. It certainly is nefarious, but it's all out in public. You have plenty of these liberal
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elites, some of the elected politicians and many unelected people describing this. And the way that
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one builds back better or the way that one resets society is not really done through democratic
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politics. In a way it is. Some of these people are elected, but mostly how this will be done is at
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the administrative level or at the corporate level, also beyond the realm of democratic accountability.
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When you put people out of work for nine months, 10 months, it's more than that now, I guess. I guess
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we're coming up on a year, aren't we? When you put people out of work for that long, you make them
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much more vulnerable to these sort of plans. You gin up society. You encourage the sort of riots that we
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saw all year long. You clamp down on political rights. Now you can't, you can't go to church still
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in many places. You could always go buy a dime bag of pot in California. You could always go to those
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essential services, but you couldn't go to church. And the excuse for this was public health. Well,
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who runs the public health? It's this bureaucracy. It's this doctor dictatorship. It's Dr. Fauci liberated.
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And where, where do our liberties go with that liberation? Very, very creepy. There is one set
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of rules for the people. There is one set of rules for the liberal elite. We talked about this a lot
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yesterday. We mentioned yesterday how Joe Biden issued a mask mandate. He said on federal lands,
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you must always wear a mask, no exceptions at all times. He then hours later goes to the Lincoln
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Memorial to participate in this ritual. He goes, brings his entire family. Well, not the, not the
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grandchildren that he refuses to acknowledge, but he brought the family that he will acknowledge.
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He brings them to the Lincoln Memorial and they're just cello playing and it's all very beautiful.
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They're not wearing masks. None of them are wearing masks. Hours after he mandated that all the rest of us
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wear masks at these very places. Jen Psaki, the press secretary now for Biden was asked to question
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about this yesterday. I said, you know, isn't that a kind of a mixed message that we're getting? We're
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told you, everyone has to wear masks, but then Biden and his entire family won't wear masks themselves.
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Psaki had a weak answer. Why weren't President Biden and all members of the Biden family masked at all
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times on federal lands last night, if he signed an executive order that mandates masks on federal
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lands at all times at the inaugural memorial. Yes. I think Steve, he was celebrating an evening of a
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historic day in our country. And certainly he signed the mask mandate because it's a way to send a
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message to the American public about the importance of wearing masks, how it can save tens of thousands
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of lives. We take a number of COVID precautions, as you know, here in terms of testing, social distancing,
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mask wearing ourselves as, as we do every single day. But I don't know that I have more for you on
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it than that. Oh man. First, the first take that I have on this is not even having to do with the
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substance, which we'll get to in a second. My first take is this woman is really bad at her job. I know
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that the press are going to say she's wonderful and brave and stunning and glorious and everything.
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Kayleigh McEnany, whether you like her or not, you should like her. She's just tremendous. But
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even if you don't like her, you have to acknowledge she was very good at her job. She was very, very
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good. She was always so prepared. She had killer answers. She had mic drop moments. Sarah Sanders,
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incredibly good at her job. Okay. The Trump press secretaries did a great job. This woman fumbling
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around. Well, uh, uh, he, uh, he didn't wear the mask because he wanted to send a message. Oh, he sent a
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message. Oh, honey, he sent a message. It wasn't the message that you seem to think he's sending.
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It wasn't the message that the masks are really important and we've all got to wear them. The
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message he sent was there's going to be one set of rules for you, the peasants, and there's going
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to be one set of rules for me and my family. And that's been true for the Biden family for many
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years. If anybody did what the Biden family did in Ukraine, in China, selling political influence
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for millions and millions of dollars, they would be in orange jumpsuits. Not the Biden family,
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not the liberal elite, not the liberal establishment. Goes all the way down to the masks.
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Well, he wanted to send a message of how important, if he wanted to send the message of how important
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the masks are, he should wear the mask. We always, we who are on the staff, we always wear the mask.
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You're not wearing a mask right now, are you Jen Psaki? No, you're not because it doesn't matter
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because no one, no one believes, no one pushing the mask rules really believes that the masks do
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anything. There are some gullible people out there who think that the masks are very important to
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public health. But I, I promise you, Dr. Fauci doesn't think so. He told us he doesn't think so.
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And then in his own behavior, he's demonstrated he doesn't think so. Jen Psaki doesn't think so.
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She's not wearing the mask. The reporters who were in the press briefing room during the Trump
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administration don't think so. They'd have their masks on for show during the press conference.
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And when they thought the cameras were turned off, but sometimes they weren't turned off.
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The minute the, the lights go down, they take the mask off. They don't believe this. Joe Biden
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doesn't believe the masks matter. He doesn't wear one. Even after he mandates that everyone else wear
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one on the exact spot where he's standing, he doesn't make his family wear one. None of these people
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believe it. The idea that anybody could watch the Biden family traipse around these federal lands
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without masks hours after he signs the mask mandate and still believe that the masks are anything but
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a political prop astounds me. It is all about a new hierarchy. It's all about a new caste system.
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It's all about one set of rules for the and one set of rules for me. You're going to see this
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increase. There was a video yesterday posted by Biden to YouTube titled President Biden's
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Wears in Day One Presidential Appointees in a Virtual Ceremony. This was posted on January 20th,
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day he was inaugurated. The comments were turned off. Now, I think they've since been turned back on
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and it, and we've now learned why they were turned off in the first place. This thing was ratioed as
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can be. I think got about 5,000 likes and 25,000 dislikes, not a good ratio. And one does not even
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want to look at the comments. This is what you're going to see. We talked about it yesterday. In the
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name of democracy, we're going to see behavior that is very anti-democratic. We're going to see
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Fauci liberated. We're already seeing that happen. And it's a very ugly thing. The reason they do this
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is because they know that if they open up their agenda to democratic accountability, they'll lose.
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They, I'm even, I'm going to put the election aside for a second. There are many questions that
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one may have about, about the election and elections moving forward. I'm going to put that aside for a
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second. If you put out there, if you said, I'll give an example that's very popular. If you said,
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hey, I want a referendum on whether or not to let grown men into the girls changing room at the public
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pool. How do you think that would do at a fair open ballot? I think probably it would be like 90 to 10
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against that measure, right? I, I, there's no way that would pass. And yet the left with their vessel,
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Joe Biden are pushing for that. Actually that specific example, they've already pushed for through
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an executive order. Joe Biden, this is one of his first acts as president. Don't tell me he's going to
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be moderate. He won't. He signs this order that reads in part, quote, every person should be treated
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with respect and dignity and should be able to live without fear, no matter who they are or whom
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they love. Blah, blah, blah. Obviously just nothing, nothing, platitude, platitude. Give me the meat.
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What does this mean? Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be
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denied access to the restroom, the locker room or school sports. Hold up. As far as I know,
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no child is told he can't use the bathroom or he can't play sports or he can't go to the locker
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room. I don't see any example of that anywhere in the country unless Joe Biden is using a euphemism
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here. Is he saying that it's not that children are denied access to play sports. It's that little
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boys are denied access to play girl sports. That's what he's saying. Adults should be able to learn,
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to earn a living and pursue a vocation knowing that they will not be fired, demoted or mistreated
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because of whom they go home to or because how they dress does not conform to sex-based
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stereotypes. People should be able to access healthcare and secure a roof over their heads
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without being subjected to sex discrimination. All persons should receive equal treatment under
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the law, no matter their gender identity or sexual orientation. And there it is. There it is.
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In one fell swoop, Joe Biden eliminated through executive order, girls' sports, girls' bathrooms,
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girls' changing rooms. This pervert, and you know, I've, I've held off on calling him a pervert,
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even when we were all making fun of the hair sniffing and all that stuff. I held off. I felt
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it was kind of a cheap political shot. He's, he's a back slapper, not a pervert. This executive order
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is perverted. It's sick. It's deranged. This sicko on his first day in office, second day in office,
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makes it a top priority to let grown men into the little girls' changing room. Sick, sick stuff could
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only ever happen through executive order. You know, Joe Biden has been right a couple of times.
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Now that Biden is showing his radicalism, we are seeing pushback already with one
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congressman, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, filing articles of impeachment against Joe Biden
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already. He's two days into his presidency now. She's already filed articles of impeachment. I think
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it's absolutely hilarious. Here is her reasoning. He's filed articles of impeachment on President
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Joe Biden. We'll see how this goes. Now I say that's her reasoning because that's basically all
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impeachment is going to mean from now on. I think the legal argument has something to do with the
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massive evidence of his corruption in China, which was suppressed by the big tech companies
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before the election, the Hunter Biden scandal that was completely shut down. You couldn't even message
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the article because they wanted to throw the election for Joe Biden. And then only after it
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didn't matter anymore, did they finally reopen that. There was a study that came out from the
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Media Research Center that I think it was something like 14% of Biden voters could have changed their
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vote had they known about that scandal. So that's, I guess, ostensibly the legal basis, but that's not
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really. The basis for impeachment is purely political in this case, which is you're going to impeach my guy
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multiple times. Well, I'm going to impeach your guy. And that's probably the way politics is going to start
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working. Probably they're, I mean, they're still impeaching the past, the previous president. So there
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will, there will be a Senate impeachment trial for Donald Trump who cannot be impeached because he's no
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longer in office. And I know that there are some people who think this is an open constitutional
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question. It's constitutionally absurd that the president can be convicted, impeached and convicted
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after he has left office. It cannot happen. And if it does happen, it's a constitutional absurdity
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and outrage. So now the Republicans are going to file impeachment against Biden. Fine by me.
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Totally fine by me. Why? Is it because I think impeachment should be used this way? No, I don't
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think impeachment should be used this way. I think there's a wrong way to use impeachment.
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But impeachment is used this way. And I don't think that we're going to restore
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a more dignified kind of politics by unilaterally disarming. I think that's what we've done for a
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very long time. And it, and it didn't work out very well. We kind of tried this already. You know,
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Barack Obama committed impeachable offenses, notably in his IRS scandal, uh, notable fast and
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furious would be another example, but the IRS was really bad. DOJ, he, uh, spied on his political
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rivals and tried to undermine their campaigns. If we're allowed to now impeach and convict presidents
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after they've left office, let's do that. Let's impeach Obama. But we tried. Okay. I don't,
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I don't want to hear, this is what we're going to hear. They're going to say Republicans started all
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of this because in the nineties they impeached Bill Clinton over some eccentric activities in
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the Oval Office, private matter. Well, that's not true. He was impeached for perjury, but
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even putting that aside, okay, let's say, let's say the Clinton impeachment was ill-advised. Let's say
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it was politically. Okay. Or partisan rather, rather than having a legal basis. Fine. We did
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not impeach Barack Obama when we could have. John Boehner and Mitch McConnell refused to do it.
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Did that buy us goodwill? Did that restore us to a dignified kind of politics? No. They impeached
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Trump. They actually did exactly what Marjorie Taylor Greene did. Everyone remembers, well,
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the current impeachment and they remember the, the impeachment a year ago. People forget the
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articles of impeachment filed in 2017. Representative Al Green. Interestingly, it was
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another representative Green who first proposed impeaching Trump in 2017, right at the beginning
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of his presidency. Why? Well, Green's argument was if we don't impeach Trump, he might get reelected.
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That's the argument for impeaching him now. They're saying if we don't impeach Trump and convict him
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in the Senate, he might run for office again and get reelected. Does that sound like people who think
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that they have the majority of Americans on their side? Does that sound like people who think that
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democracy is going to triumph for them? Does that sound like people who believe their views are really,
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really popular? I don't think so. I think it sounds like people who, who know that the only way that
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they're going to win is through chicanery, through irregularity. I'll leave it at that.
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You know, Mitch McConnell wants to delay this impeachment trial. Mitch McConnell, so the
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conviction already happened. Mitch McConnell wants to delay the impeachment until mid-February.
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So according to McConnell's timeline, the impeachment article would be read before the Senate on January
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28th. Then Trump would have to respond by February 4th, even though he's out of office. Then he would have
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another week until February 11th at the latest to submit a pre-trial brief. Then the House would be
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required to submit a pre-trial brief by February 4th also. Then a rebuttal pre-trial brief would,
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would happen February 13th. Then you get the impeachment trial.
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Very strange. Obviously, we've never been in a situation like this before.
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And even this whole idea of the impeachment, I mean, we were saying it traces back to Bill Clinton.
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It doesn't. It actually goes back to, to Richard Nixon. You know, Watergate. And you know all those
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things that are worse than Watergate today. Everything is worse than Watergate today. But
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it really did begin. The Democrats did start all of this with Nixon. And it was ridiculous because
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Nixon's offenses were, were nothing compared to what had been done by his predecessors who were
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Democrats. But they really wanted to oust him because he was an effective and pretty tough
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president. So we've, we've never done this. We've never removed a president from office through
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impeachment. And, and we've certainly never removed a president for, from office after he left office
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through impeachment. That's not even how impeachment works. But, so McConnell's trying to push it off and
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push it off and push it off. I don't think this is about helping Trump. I think this is about gaining
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leverage. Okay. I think this is about saying, look, Democrats, you're going to have this big
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ambitious agenda. And I right now could make, I could give you your conviction. I could keep Trump
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out of running for office again, or maybe I couldn't, maybe I could stand in the way. What
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do you want? What do you want to do? I think Mitch McConnell's a wheeler and dealer. I don't think
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he has any special love for Trump. And I think they're going to drag this out as leverage, which
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one can expect. But if they do convict Trump, I don't even know what it means to convict Trump
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after he's left office. That will make this problem so, so much worse. And we're not going to
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win that argument through concession. We're not going to win this battle by playing nice. They don't
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want to play nice with us. We need to get tougher. We need to assert ourselves. We need to stand up
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with greater courage. You know, Joe Biden, one of the most disgusting aspects of his presidency,
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and it's already pretty disgusting, is that he blasphemes his religion. He uses his religion
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blasphemously to justify major, major evils, such as abortion and trying to get taxpayers to fund
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abortion, that sort of thing, and questions of gender and everything else. So the USCCB, the US
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Council of Catholic Bishops, usually a very weak organization, they came out under Archbishop Jose
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Gomez, who I really like actually. I think he's a good guy. He came out and he criticized President
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Biden, and he said, you know, this is really bad. I must, and he said all these nice things about
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Biden, but then he said, I must point out that our new president has pledged to pursue certain
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policies that would advance moral evils and threaten human life and dignity, most seriously
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in the areas of abortion, but also contraception, marriage, gender, and the liberty of the church.
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Now, Cardinal Cupich, who some, some people who are very rude have called Cardinal Cupcake,
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but it's very rude. Cupich and other corrupt people in the Catholic church have pushed back on this,
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said, how dare you stand up for unborn babies? Let, let them all die. Let, let Biden pursue his,
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his murder, murderous agenda unimpeded. Come on, how dare you? I love that Gomez stood up here,
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Archbishop Gomez. I wish that the bishops would stand up even further. Joe Biden must be excommunicated.
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This is, he, he is in a state of grave mortal sin. Excommunication is not just a punishment.
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It's something that one does out of compassion to right the guy's soul and to right the souls of the
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flock because not just of the grave sin of supporting abortion, but this grave sin of
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scandal, which is being incurred. But as long as we refuse to assert ourselves, as long as we refuse
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to have courage, the worst elements of society are going to be liberated and it's going to be much
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All right. First question from Keith. Dear Michael, in several of your shows, you've said reality will
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always reassert itself. Our culture and politics seem to careen further left for the next four years
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under Biden's administration. In your opinion, what will be the first ways or areas in which
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reality will begin to reassert itself against the insanity of the left and how far will our country
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and culture have to sink before that happens? Well, we are seeing it reassert itself in one way
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and it's this issue we were just talking about today. The girls' bathrooms thing
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really seems to be an important issue and a wedge issue. When I say a wedge issue, I mean it drives a
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wedge between our political opponents. You've got the left brought, let's say on the left you've got
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feminists and you've got these gender ideologues, right? These kind of the transgenderists.
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They're leftists, right? Feminists included. They're leftists. We're conservatives. But this issue
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of the transgender bathrooms splits the left. It drives a wedge in between them, between the
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feminists who say, wait a second, girls ought to be able to have sports. Girls ought to be able to
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change in privacy. Girls ought to be able to have their own bathrooms. This is what we've been
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fighting for for decades. And the transgenderists who say there's no such thing as girls, honey,
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you know, men can define femininity and actually being a woman is nothing more than slapping on some
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lipstick and a pair of stilettos. And then the feminists saying, what? How dare you? You can't
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reduce femininity to that and then they sort of duke it out. And you see this in the battles between
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J.K. Rowling, famously, and other leftists. J.K. Rowling is what you'd call a trans-exclusive
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radical feminist. There's nothing radical about her view on gender. She's saying men and women are
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different, right? There's nothing radical at all about that. The radical view is that men and women
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are not different. So I do think that's one way in which reality will reassert itself. It is important
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to recall, though, that conservative consolation is reality eventually reasserts itself, but it can
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take a while. It can take a long time. French Revolution took a long time, okay? Lots of bad
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things can happen in the meantime. There's something I noticed. You know, conservatives often talk about,
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and I'll talk about it on the show too, the kind of progressive utopian view of politics, that the arc
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of history bends toward justice. And we kind of make fun of that. And it's right to make fun of that
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because the view is preposterous. However, conservatives have an analogous view, right?
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Christians have a view. We think that history will end up in justice. It's just that it'll get a lot
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worse before then in the end times, and then we'll have the second coming of Christ, and we'll have
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this wonderful new heaven and new earth, right? Progressivism is just, in so many ways, an aping
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of Christianity, an inversion of Christianity. We've talked about this many times on the show.
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Political correctness is an anti-standard. It's a new speech code to overthrow the old moral codes.
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And so you're seeing these analogous sorts of things. But when we say reality reasserts itself
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in the end, we're making a similar claim to, you know, the arc of history bends toward justice.
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But even for the progressives, when they say the arc of history bends toward justice,
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well, it might take a long time, right? And they talk about that as well. So I think it is important
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to recognize the similarities between our views. The difference is that theirs is a kind of mirror
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image, you know, inversion of the true principle and the true moral order. From Matthew, future
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press secretary Knowles, will Daily Wire hire a White House reporter for the Daily Wire to ask the
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challenging questions of the Biden administration? You know, to compete with mainstream media and
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actually get real reporting. I recommend Kayleigh McEnany. Yeah, she would be pretty great. Oh my gosh,
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could you imagine if we sent Kayleigh in as the White House reporter asking questions of Jen Psaki,
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who appears to have some whistling going on between the ears, just not quite up to the job in the way
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that her predecessors in the Trump administration were? That'd be great. I can't imagine Biden would
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ever let us in. I just don't see that happening. Conservatives always take questions from these
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leftist reporters, but the left does not usually take questions of right-wing reporters. Very,
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very few. One exception might be Peter Doocy. Peter Doocy from Fox News actually does very good work
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and has needled Joe Biden for a long time, but that's it. You know, they'll let the one, maybe
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one outlet out, which isn't even all that conservative these days. I don't think they
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would let someone who's strongly conservative really in, into the room. So sadly, I don't think,
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I think we're going to get a whole lot more questions of, so what color drapes does Joe want in the
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Oval Office? Wow, what a fascinating question. From Daniel, Michael, I've noticed that you like
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to use the phrase, the Protestant Revolution, to describe what they call the Reformation,
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but a revolution implies the overthrow of a whole system, such as the French or Russian
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revolutions. As it is inaccurate to term the American separation from Britain a revolution,
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right, because it didn't overthrow Great Britain, likewise, it seems inaccurate to call the separation
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of the Protestants from the Roman church a revolution. The church has not been overthrown,
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but a schism has occurred. A Roman Catholic friend of mine calls it the Protestant schism,
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and that seems a more appropriate description. What do you think? I agree with that. I think as a
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matter of religion and theology, Protestant schism is more precise, just like you talk about the Great
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Schism between the East and the West, right, that happened a thousand years ago. However, I still prefer,
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for the purposes of this show, I still prefer the term Protestant Revolution, because putting religion
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aside, that certainly the various Protestant denominations didn't overthrow the Catholic
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church, but as a political matter, they did. As a political matter, the Protestants won.
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The Protestant revolution, and by the way, I tend to view the Protestant, what is, whether you call it
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the Protestant, I mean, it wasn't a reformation in the sense that it didn't reform the church,
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it just created another church. So it's, I really don't use the term reformation, but whether you want
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to call it a schism or a revolution or whatever, as a political matter, the Protestants won. You know,
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what happened out of the Protestant revolution was you had all of these kind of wars of religion,
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you had the 30 Years' War, and then the end of the 30 Years' War was the Peace of Westphalia,
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which in 1648 established our system of nation-states. The world order, as we know it today,
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was a product directly of the Protestant revolution. You would not have this system of nation-states
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without it. And so, as a result, I do consider that to be a revolution. And I don't, who knows
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what the next world order will be. You know, we're always, we always hear this term, the new world
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order, a one world government, kind of going back to an empire model, but not a Christian empire. It's
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like some kind of weird, secular, atheist, liberal empire, whatever. I just mean, until there is another
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world order, you know, that, that revolution defines our political world. And so, I, I do prefer that
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term. But I think precisely as a, as a religious matter, yes, it is, it is a schism. From Mitchell,
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Dear Mr. Knowles, I am a 16-year-old writing from St. Paul, Minnesota. Believe it or not,
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there are conservatives there. I was recently having a discussion with a friend and he proposed
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getting rid of the two-party system because it seemed to result in the two sides hating each other.
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However, we struggled to find a system to replace it. Would you recommend getting rid of the
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two-party system? If so, what would you recommend replacing it with? No, I would not get rid of it.
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I'm a great defender of the two-party system. The two-party system is good. If you have 20
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different parties, like they have in many European countries, you have usually chaos and governments
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collapsing. And sometimes you have radical parties empowered because more mainstream parties kind of
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split the more mainstream vote and the radicals can kind of get in there sometimes. So I don't like
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that at all. If you're saying we need to get rid of party politics altogether, that's just not going
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to happen. We've had a two-party system in this country from the very beginning. We had this
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Washington administration, which was nonpartisan theoretically, but it was federalist, right?
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Leaned federalist. And you then had the federalists and you had then the Jeffersonian Republican
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Democrats, right? Then you had other parties that cropped up in the wake. Andrew Jackson founded
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the Democratic Party. You had the Whig Party. You had Abraham Lincoln sort of found the Republican
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Party as the first Republican president. Not the first Republican nominee, but that party is founded
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in 1854. First National Convention is 1856. First President is 1860. And you've had those two parties
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ever since then. We might have a new party. I'm fine with that. I don't have any particular love
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for the Republican Party. And I certainly don't have affection for the Democratic Party.
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But I think we ought to probably keep, we will keep the party system. And I hope, I hope we keep
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the two-party system for the purposes of having any kind of moderation or, or continuity in our
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politics. From Brendan. Dear he who turns the covfefe up to 11. How palatable would the idea be of
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admitting Puerto Rico as a state alongside rural parts of Northern California and Eastern Oregon
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to make the state of Jefferson a proposed Pacific state. States were admitted as pairs of free and
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slave states to maintain the balance of political power previously in our history. Do you think the
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shared desire to grant statehood to these areas along with the resulting maintained balance of
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political power would make this idea possible or even preferable for both sides of the political
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aisle? Could you please explain too why Puerto Rico would be a lock for two Democratic senators
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with no chance of Republicans winning either seat? Thanks. Well, if you just look at the political
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preferences of Puerto Ricans, it's left wing. So I'm not saying that couldn't change over time,
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but it would be, it would be a practical matter. It would be a lock if Puerto Rico were admitted as
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a state. I don't like the idea of admitting Puerto Rico along with the proposed state of Jefferson or
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something. One, because you'd have a lot of trouble if you started carving up U.S. states. Separations do
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not happen peacefully. Separations of political territories into new political territories have
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never happened peacefully as far as I can tell in this country or in the world rather. Very, very rarely.
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So you'd, you'd be, you'd be hard pressed to do that, I think. I would be, as a practical matter,
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no state is going to want to let itself be cracked up. And what would the purpose be? If you're going to
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maintain the balance of power, why admit Puerto Rico is a state? I don't even see the argument for
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admitting Puerto Rico is a state. If you could present a compelling argument for why it would
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be advantageous to the country to admit Puerto Rico is a state, then I guess we could talk about how to
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do it and maintain the balance of power. But, but even that, that idea of a compromise, by the way,
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reminds us of the 1850s, which you're talking about in the mid 19th century, states were admitted
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one slave, one free to maintain the balance of power. That got us a civil war. You know, that was,
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I do not look to the 1850s as my load star when I'm trying to craft politics. And I fear that we're
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in a situation that has some parallels to the 1850s. And if you were to get into a situation where
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you're now admitting one democratic state, one Republican state, and you're banking on those
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states remaining that way to maintain the balance of power, that is a, that is a scary situation to
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be in. And I don't want to further provoke civil strife. From Ruby, Michael, I want to buy a Bible
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and I'm overwhelmed with the number of options. I have done some research and I narrowed it down to
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the NIV, the NET, and the RSV Bible. Do not buy the NIV. First thought, any word of advice would be
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appreciated. Love your show. Thanks for all that you do. Yes, I would recommend, obviously I would
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recommend a Catholic Bible. So, you know, you get the deuterocanonical books. It's a little bit
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longer. The deuterocanonical books are the books that were taken out after the Protestant
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Revolution. But so you get some extra books, get more bang for your buck in that way. And I
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suspect more wisdom. If you were going to get a Catholic Bible, I would recommend the RSVCE,
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the Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition, or better yet, the Douay Reims, which is one of the
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best Bible translations ever in history. If you don't want to do that, if that's a little too
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macro snapping for your speed, then I would recommend getting the ESV for readability is a good
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Protestant Bible. And the KJV is the most beautiful. I mean, that's just one of the greatest
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works of literature ever produced in the English language. Well, I suppose a little less so for
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readability, but it's still, you know, it's so beautiful. So maybe if you're going to buy a
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Protestant Bible, I'd buy both of those, ESV and KJV. And I guess same thing is true for Catholic
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Bible. If you're going to buy a Catholic Bible in English, maybe buy the RSVCE and the Douay Reims.
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Sorry that I just spent more of your money for you. But I think, I think it's good to have both
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with the sort of heightened, beautiful language and the readability. From Gavin. Hi, Michael. Love
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the show. In the past, you've criticized soccer and other sports as un-American and referenced
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boxing as a superior alternative. As someone who practices in fights in several combat sports,
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I agree. However, I'm also a practicing Catholic and have often heard sports like boxing deemed
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immoral, which is why though I practice striking sports such as boxing, I only compete in grappling
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competitions like wrestling. What is your opinion on the morality of training and or competing in
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mixed martial arts? Is it wrong to watch the UFC? Thanks. Hashtag came for Ben, stayed for Knowles.
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I don't think it's wrong. No. I mean, you know, I'm coming from a perspective though, where my,
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my priest is a boxer. Okay. So he's not a professional boxer, obviously, but he's, he is,
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he's boxed. So I, I think it's a, it is a beautiful sport, right? It is sort of the,
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the beautiful sport. And soccer is not, it's not the beautiful sport though. That, that is a popular
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idea. It's just, it's kind of soft, you know, it's kind of boring. It's foreign. You just don't
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like it. They're trying to import it into America, but it should not be imported. We import enough bad
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ideas and bad things into America. We, we should do tough, good old American sports. And it, the more
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it drives the rest of the world crazy, the better, as far as I'm concerned. That's, that to me is the
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marker of how you know that it is a, a good sport. I don't think people should go out there and start
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shivving each other and killing each other in the ring, but some good combat I think is perfectly
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in keeping with the great tradition of sports. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles
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