The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 690 - The Constitutional Stress Test

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00:00:37.680 On this 322nd day of 15 days to slow the spread, we have a new proclamation from on high.

00:00:44.740 Science has declared through science's chosen priest, the exalted Dr. Fauci,

00:00:51.840 that although some people are currently wearing two masks at the same time, which looks very,

00:00:58.560 very funny, and I would therefore encourage people to continue doing it, Dr. Fauci now says

00:01:03.780 it's not going to do anything.

00:01:05.840 There are many people who feel, you know, if you really want to have an extra little bit of protection,

00:01:12.440 maybe I should put two masks on.

00:01:14.580 There's nothing wrong with that, but there's no data that indicates that that is going to make

00:01:20.060 a difference.

00:01:20.440 And that's the reason why the CDC has not changed the recommendation.

00:01:25.020 So absolutely no evidence whatsoever that wearing two masks does anything at all.

00:01:30.580 If you want to put the two masks on your face, you can put a donut on your head too.

00:01:34.140 That's fine.

00:01:34.620 But it's no evidence at all that that would in any way help stop the spread of the virus.

00:01:39.940 This just days after Dr. Fauci says it is common sense that two masks would help to stop the spread

00:01:46.680 of the virus.

00:01:47.840 A lot of folks are hearing now about double masking, wearing two masks or trying to get one of those

00:01:54.820 N95 medical grade masks.

00:01:57.420 Do you believe that that's advisable and makes a difference?

00:02:00.120 You know, it likely does, because, I mean, this is a physical covering to prevent droplets

00:02:08.260 and virus to get in.

00:02:09.980 So if you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, it just makes

00:02:15.060 common sense that it likely would be more effective.

00:02:18.100 And that's the reason why you see people either double masking or doing a version of an N95.

00:02:24.060 That was the common sense a few days ago.

00:02:26.500 That is no longer the common sense.

00:02:28.200 And so proclaims Dr. Fauci, who you may recall about seven or eight months ago, declared

00:02:34.240 from, from on high, channeling the spirit of science through his exalted genius brain

00:02:41.680 that you absolutely should not wear any masks whatsoever.

00:02:47.000 Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks.

00:02:52.680 You're sure of it?

00:02:53.580 Because people are listening really closely to this.

00:02:56.020 Right now, people should not be walking, there's no reason to be walking around with a mask.

00:03:00.640 When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit

00:03:06.800 better and it might even block a droplet.

00:03:10.560 But it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.

00:03:14.960 Thus declares science.

00:03:19.380 With geniuses like this making our public policy, is it any surprise that our country is coming

00:03:25.280 apart at the seams?

00:03:26.580 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:03:27.220 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:03:36.320 Welcome back to the show.

00:03:37.360 Well, my favorite comment from Friday is from Bryn Muir, who says, when Robin Hood starts

00:03:43.580 working for the corrupt elite, he ceases to be Robin Hood.

00:03:47.240 That is true.

00:03:48.440 That's true of legendary characters.

00:03:50.640 That is true of retail investment apps.

00:03:54.240 And we have an update on that, by the way, because you've now got two camps on the Robin

00:03:58.400 Hood issue and it doesn't cut evenly across partisan lines.

00:04:02.140 But either way, there is some lie being told here.

00:04:06.880 Either way, the app is not being honest, which we will get to in a second.

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00:05:45.400 Justice Sam Alito, a really solid conservative justice.

00:05:53.080 Sam Alito just gave a speech to the Federalist Society where he described the coronavirus

00:05:58.840 lockdowns as a sort of constitutional stress test.

00:06:03.540 This is causing lots of consternation and lots of people are very angry at Alito for saying

00:06:09.180 this.

00:06:09.400 He pointed out that this constitutional stress test is placing restrictions on liberty that

00:06:16.040 were, quote, previously unimaginable.

00:06:19.080 He says, we have never before seen restrictions as severe, extensive, and prolonged.

00:06:28.220 Absolutely true.

00:06:29.420 This is true with regard to individual liberty.

00:06:31.900 This is true with regard to many political liberties that we even have in common.

00:06:37.100 You know, the right of churches to remain open.

00:06:40.680 The head shop in California can stay open and sell dime bags because that's an essential

00:06:46.700 service, but the churches cannot remain open.

00:06:49.640 And you're seeing this different individual rights and group rights being taken away from

00:06:54.720 people.

00:06:55.000 This is part of why I'm not letting the BLM people off the hook for their riots. 1.00

00:07:01.760 Certainly not.

00:07:02.360 I'm not letting the Capitol Hill rioters off the hook for storming into the Capitol with

00:07:07.120 the bullhorns on or whatever.

00:07:09.180 I'm not letting anybody off the hook for their bad behavior during all of this.

00:07:15.160 However, just as a descriptive matter, is it any surprise that when you lock people up

00:07:21.500 for months and months and months and months and you throw a whole lot of people out of

00:07:24.620 work and you upend the economy in many ways and you, even beyond all of those questions,

00:07:31.500 upend society by shutting down all the kind of normal social interactions that we have,

00:07:37.100 canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas, for goodness sakes, is it any wonder that the country

00:07:42.380 starts to rip apart at the seams? 1.00

00:07:43.900 Particularly when all of this is being done at the behest of technocratic idiots like Dr. 1.00

00:07:48.700 Fauci, who contradict themselves within several days of the guidance that they're giving. 1.00

00:07:53.600 And who repeatedly ignore their own mandates.

00:07:59.640 They have mandates for other people, but they don't follow the mandates themselves.

00:08:02.880 Be it on the masking, be it on going out to dinner like Gavin Newsom at the Michelin rated

00:08:06.940 restaurant, the French laundry, be it Chris Cuomo, who's hanging out in the Hamptons, pretending

00:08:13.440 he's locked up in his home, not going outside.

00:08:15.400 Is it any of these people?

00:08:18.740 No, it's, it's no wonder at all.

00:08:20.500 And I think this is the broader context in which you have to understand what happened

00:08:26.520 with Robin Hood and GameStop.

00:08:28.080 It's still happening.

00:08:29.700 These Redditors are driving up the price of physical silver right now.

00:08:33.580 Why?

00:08:34.100 What is this all about?

00:08:37.220 We know that this began because these people on Reddit saw a massive short position from

00:08:42.540 a hedge fund in GameStop.

00:08:44.460 GameStop in itself doesn't seem like a very valuable growth company, right?

00:08:48.040 It's kind of going the way of Blockbuster and all these other companies.

00:08:50.320 The Redditors know that, but they, they want to take advantage of this short position, cause

00:08:54.620 a short squeeze, force the hedge fund guys to buy up the stock that through these kind

00:08:59.440 of complex systems they had already sold and then drive the price up and then these Redditors

00:09:03.540 can make some money.

00:09:04.400 But the Redditors know they might lose all their money because this is so volatile and

00:09:07.540 crazy.

00:09:08.160 This is the furthest thing from a sure investment you could possibly make.

00:09:11.680 But what they were saying is we would rather lose money to send a message than keep dealing

00:09:17.300 in this system.

00:09:18.640 They were kicked off of Reddit.

00:09:20.180 I believe they were kicked off of Reddit.

00:09:21.460 They were certainly kicked off of Discord.

00:09:22.880 They were kicked off of various other social media platforms.

00:09:25.680 So what did they do?

00:09:26.700 They bought a billboard in Times Square.

00:09:31.920 They bought a digital billboard in Times Square, 54th and Broadway, that said dollar sign GME.

00:09:38.380 That's the, the stock name, the ticker name for, for GameStop.

00:09:43.040 Uh, GME go burr, which is meme language, right?

00:09:47.200 It's the sort of internet jokes that you see about like the money printer going burr.

00:09:51.460 This idea that we're just going to print money and money and money.

00:09:53.600 And you see B-R-R-R is the way to describe that.

00:09:55.940 Well, same thing with GME, because they're saying it's going to go all the way up to

00:09:59.520 the moon.

00:10:01.000 These guys know that they could lose money and they very likely will lose money.

00:10:05.960 Who paid for that billboard? 0.99

00:10:07.160 I don't know, but whoever paid for it, definitely going to lose some money.

00:10:10.500 But they believe that this system is corrupt.

00:10:14.320 And it's hard to conclude otherwise.

00:10:18.980 What happened at Robinhood?

00:10:21.120 I want to be as fair to Robinhood as I possibly can.

00:10:23.920 And I want to be as fair to the financial services industry as we possibly can.

00:10:27.520 Some of my best friends are hedge fund analysts.

00:10:30.400 I say that, you know, I actually mean that.

00:10:32.560 Some of my best friends have worked for hedge funds and still work for hedge funds.

00:10:35.920 So I want to be fair to these guys.

00:10:38.000 But I also don't want to just take this kind of old GOP line where the GOP just like shills

00:10:43.260 for the financial services industry and says they can do no wrong.

00:10:47.060 What happened here with Robinhood?

00:10:51.200 The argument that is being made right now that Robinhood is positioning themselves to

00:10:57.360 make, they published an op-ed in USA Today and they published a blog post on their own

00:11:01.280 website, this from Vlad Tenev, the head of Robinhood.

00:11:06.320 He says that the reason that all of this happened is because it's, you know, they want to put

00:11:11.780 their customers first.

00:11:12.580 They're not shilling for the hedge funds.

00:11:14.020 It's because they needed to put up a lot of money as a mandated deposit on the investment.

00:11:20.400 So this is in his own words.

00:11:23.400 Our clearinghouse mandated deposit requirements related to stocks increased tenfold in a matter

00:11:29.840 of days.

00:11:30.400 So when these guys, when you go and you buy stocks on Robinhood, you, the Robinhood then

00:11:36.160 has to go to the clearinghouse and put deposits down.

00:11:38.800 So if the, if the deposits go way, way, way up and the investments go way, way, way up,

00:11:41.940 then their deposit requirements are going to go way up.

00:11:44.940 They are what led us to put temporary buying restrictions in place on a small number of

00:11:49.340 securities that the clearinghouses had raised their deposit requirements on.

00:11:52.580 It was not because we wanted to stop people from buying these or any stocks.

00:11:55.860 We built Robinhood to provide access to investing for all.

00:11:58.500 Yeah.

00:11:58.760 Okay, fine.

00:11:59.240 He says the same thing in a blog post.

00:12:02.560 He says, yeah, we, we basically just didn't have the cash to, to cover up all of these,

00:12:07.180 these investments with our clearinghouse to put the deposits down to make sure everything

00:12:11.180 was hunky dory.

00:12:12.040 Okay, fine.

00:12:12.760 A plausible argument.

00:12:14.760 However, this guy seemed to contradict himself when all of this was going down on CNBC.

00:12:20.540 When he was asked explicitly, is this a liquidity problem?

00:12:22.960 Is this because you don't have the cash to cover these investments?

00:12:25.180 He said, absolutely not.

00:12:27.460 It sounds to me, though, that you're suggesting that there was a liquidity problem inside the

00:12:31.900 firm.

00:12:32.180 And my question about that then raises all sorts of new questions about whether there's a systemic

00:12:37.260 issue underneath the system and underneath the company unto itself.

00:12:41.440 No, no, there, there was no liquidity problem.

00:12:45.000 And to be clear, this was done preemptively.

00:12:48.760 So we did this proactively and thousands of other securities remain tradable on the platform.

00:12:54.900 Customers that held these positions were able to sell them.

00:12:58.840 And we're doing what we can to allow buying and to remove these restrictions in the morning.

00:13:06.300 So maybe this guy just isn't making himself clear enough.

00:13:09.200 Maybe I just don't understand the intricacies of this aspect of financial services.

00:13:14.260 But it would seem to me this guy is contradicting himself.

00:13:18.060 It would seem to me on the one hand, he's saying, yeah, we didn't have the cash to cover

00:13:21.400 all these positions, so we had to shut it down.

00:13:23.440 And then on the other hand, he's saying, no, we have plenty of cash.

00:13:25.420 Cash isn't the problem.

00:13:26.320 Everything's great at Robinhood.

00:13:27.260 And either way, whatever side you come down on, I can see arguments for,

00:13:31.020 I can sort of see arguments for defending Robinhood.

00:13:33.040 I mostly see arguments for not defending them.

00:13:34.840 Either way, we need an investigation.

00:13:37.900 Absolutely, the baseline take that you need to have on this is,

00:13:41.300 we need to investigate what happened here because we're getting conflicting information,

00:13:45.440 in this case, from the same guy, talking about all of these securities.

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00:15:16.560 At this point, all of these little seemingly disparate political incidents,

00:15:24.960 I think, cannot be separated from the feeling that people have across the parties,

00:15:31.440 actually, in this country, certainly across the political spectrum,

00:15:33.540 that there is a gap between the people and the elite,

00:15:37.780 that society is being totally upended,

00:15:40.320 and there's nothing that we can do or say about it.

00:15:43.640 And it's being upended for months and months and a year now, I guess,

00:15:49.020 even though we were told it would be 15 days.

00:15:51.660 And there's very little that we can do about it.

00:15:53.460 And as the political system is fraying,

00:15:59.240 anything that conservatives or Republicans do about it is called evil,

00:16:04.580 illiberal, authoritarian, Nazi, fascist, whatever.

00:16:09.340 And then when Democrats undertake the same sort of procedures,

00:16:13.620 that is wonderful, that's perfectly acceptable,

00:16:17.440 that's a return to normal.

00:16:18.660 Even when the form of the politics looks the same,

00:16:22.020 the key on this would be the executive orders.

00:16:25.840 When Trump was signing executive orders, this was evil, this was awful,

00:16:29.200 this was the worst thing in the world.

00:16:31.300 And it is worth pointing out that when Obama was signing executive orders,

00:16:36.660 Republicans were complaining about that too,

00:16:38.540 and saying it was not just complaining about the substance of the executive orders,

00:16:41.580 which I think is totally legit,

00:16:42.760 but they were also complaining about the very fact of signing executive orders,

00:16:47.080 saying that governance through executive orders is somehow not legitimate.

00:16:51.680 Now, I've taken a slightly different approach to this issue,

00:16:54.680 which is, I agree, I wish that our laws were being passed by the legislature,

00:16:58.640 but the fact is they're not.

00:17:00.160 Most of the laws that we actually live under in this country

00:17:02.840 are being written by bureaucrats in the executive agencies.

00:17:06.000 And given that political reality,

00:17:08.040 the best way to attack them is through executive orders, right?

00:17:11.020 That's the way you direct the executive agencies.

00:17:13.940 But the approach to this on the left and the right,

00:17:16.680 the reaction to it has been totally different.

00:17:19.440 You'll notice, listen to this CNN headline.

00:17:22.500 Tell me if anything sounds strange to you.

00:17:25.500 Biden has signed 42 executive actions since taking office.

00:17:29.620 Here's what each one does.

00:17:32.500 Now, one thing you might notice about this is it's not wailing and gnashing their teeth

00:17:36.860 and saying these are terrible executive actions,

00:17:39.020 and here's how awful they are, right?

00:17:40.120 Which is what you would see if Trump had done it.

00:17:43.060 But even just the language, executive action,

00:17:48.440 that's kind of a new phrase.

00:17:50.820 We haven't heard that very much in the past,

00:17:52.680 but it's bubbling up a lot now under the Biden administration.

00:17:58.240 You see, when Trump would sign these very same things,

00:18:01.560 they were executive orders telling you what to do,

00:18:03.840 forcing it down your, that's order, awful, bad.

00:18:06.700 When Biden does it, it's an executive action.

00:18:10.680 Action.

00:18:11.200 We want action.

00:18:12.480 Like an action hero.

00:18:14.060 Oh, yeah, I like action.

00:18:15.340 Because Joe Biden, we all know, is so full of energy, right?

00:18:17.920 He's so with it.

00:18:19.300 He's got a lot of action in him.

00:18:22.140 Now, Biden, to his credit, is not using this kind of rhetorical sleight of hand.

00:18:26.640 He's coming out and saying, yeah, I'm signing a whole lot of executive orders,

00:18:29.160 and here's what they are.

00:18:31.140 But today I'm about to sign two executive orders,

00:18:34.060 and basically the best way to describe them,

00:18:36.140 to undo the damage Trump has done.

00:18:38.920 There's nothing new that we're doing here

00:18:42.500 other than restoring the Affordable Care Act

00:18:45.280 and restoring the Medicaid to the way it was before Trump became president,

00:18:52.140 which by fiat he changed, made more inaccessible,

00:18:56.120 more expensive, and more difficult for people to qualify

00:18:59.720 for either of those two items,

00:19:02.760 the Affordable Care Act or Medicaid.

00:19:05.480 And the second order I'm going to be signing

00:19:10.040 also changes what the president has done,

00:19:13.720 the president, what the former president has done,

00:19:17.440 and that a memorandum reversed the

00:19:19.980 my predecessor's attack on women's health,

00:19:23.440 excuse me, health access,

00:19:25.100 and as we continue to battle on COVID-19.

00:19:30.140 We could spend probably three hours

00:19:33.260 just talking about that train wreck of an announcement

00:19:35.840 because there was so much in there,

00:19:37.460 an apparent Freudian slip where Biden referred to Trump as the president.

00:19:41.340 What does that say?

00:19:42.700 What does that tell you about Joe Biden's mental state

00:19:45.200 and what he thinks about the state of the country?

00:19:48.860 Then he goes and says that we've got to help women's health,

00:19:53.920 and we're going to restore women's health. 1.00

00:19:55.500 And that's just a politically correct euphemism that means abortion.

00:19:59.140 So through executive fiat,

00:20:00.720 he's going to restore some of the funding for abortion

00:20:04.660 and some of the access to abortion that Trump took away. 0.86

00:20:08.360 Meanwhile, framed right behind Biden is a photo of him meeting the Pope.

00:20:11.940 How, how disgusting is this?

00:20:14.660 That Joe Biden, a putative Catholic, 0.97

00:20:18.340 sitting right next to a very intentionally placed photo of him meeting the Pope,

00:20:22.920 talks about how he's going to restore the butcher of innocent babies around the country. 0.81

00:20:27.620 So one of, one of the most genuinely wicked things I've seen a president do,

00:20:32.820 so casually in, in my lifetime,

00:20:36.200 and, and earlier even, you know, even, even looking back through history.

00:20:38.880 Okay. Then Biden attacks Donald Trump for all of these changes he had made by fiat.

00:20:46.140 He said, Trump did it by fiat. So I'm going to, I'm going to restore it.

00:20:51.280 Biden is also restoring it by fiat. It's doing the same thing.

00:20:54.700 They're both, they both were signing executive orders.

00:20:57.280 It's just that even the procedure of Trump

00:21:00.040 wreaking these changes through executive order is illegitimate compared to Biden.

00:21:05.420 And when Biden does it through executive order, totally hunky dory. It's not even a change.

00:21:09.340 What Biden begins by saying is he says, look, I'm not, there's nothing new here.

00:21:13.580 Nothing new here, folks. I'm just returning this all back to normal.

00:21:17.060 You see, I, I had instituted, I, with Barack Obama had instituted the liberal policy,

00:21:22.920 which is obviously what we should have. That's normal in this country.

00:21:26.180 And then Trump, this guy had the audacity to get elected and use the, his constitutionally

00:21:32.740 prescribed executive orders. And you know, the very thing that I'm using right now,

00:21:39.020 he had the audacity to do that and that's wrong and abnormal. And so now when I switch that back,

00:21:45.120 it's just a return to normalcy. Nothing new here. Of course it is new. When you change the policy of

00:21:51.720 the previous administration, that is something new, but he's saying no. What he's, what he's very

00:21:57.860 subtly saying here is liberal policy is permissible. Conservative policy is not legitimate. You used to

00:22:08.380 hear people would talk about the alt-right, you know, look, we like conservatives, but the alt-right,

00:22:14.360 they're the, they're the bad ones. And I guess for a while there was a distinction. The whole reason

00:22:19.940 that there was the term alt-right is because some people were saying we are an alternative to

00:22:24.180 more mainstream conservative thought. But now very quickly, that term just painted over all

00:22:30.960 right-wingers and now it's, it's disappeared entirely. You don't hear the term anymore because

00:22:35.260 what the left is doing is delegitimizing the entire right. Even the duly elected center-right

00:22:44.400 president, Donald Trump, who Joe Biden seems to think is still the president. Maybe a lot of

00:22:50.960 people think he's still the president. If Joe Biden said it, you come on, kick him off Twitter.

00:22:56.840 Joe Biden is not just signing those executive orders. He also is signing an executive order

00:23:01.400 to increase the number of refugees allowed into the United States by tens of thousands. And very often

00:23:06.420 these refugees are not exactly refugees. It's just, this is just another mechanism to increase 1.00

00:23:12.060 immigration beyond its already historically unprecedented levels. You know, the, the movement 0.90

00:23:19.220 into the United States over the last 60 years is the largest movement of human beings ever in the

00:23:23.580 history of the world. And it's certainly the most open immigration policy that any, any nation on

00:23:30.420 earth has right now. Most people, according to a Harvard Harris poll not too long ago, want to reduce

00:23:35.960 that level of immigration dramatically. But Biden through executive action, through his executive

00:23:42.660 orders is going to increase that. And he's probably going to try to do it, uh, through legislation as

00:23:48.020 well. All of which raises this question. And, and I think people who look at the Trump phenomenon,

00:23:54.340 you know, how many people showed up to those rallies, how many people show up to defend this guy,

00:23:57.700 who look at the Robin Hood phenomenon, how do all the people get together and beat this hedge fund

00:24:02.980 at, at, at, at their short position? When they look at the popular opposition to so many of Biden's

00:24:08.620 policies, why can't conservatives effectively counter Joe Biden and the left? Why? Why is it we,

00:24:20.960 I think we've got generally the people on our side, if not in raw numbers, then at least in terms of

00:24:26.560 people who actually go out there and are active and, and vote and protest and maybe not with mail-in

00:24:34.780 ballots, which makes it easier. And maybe not with dead people voting in Philadelphia, or maybe not

00:24:39.820 with, uh, election officials, uh, undermining the, uh, state constitution of Pennsylvania. But generally

00:24:45.800 speaking, I think, look, we've got, we've at least got roughly half the country. Why can't we ever fight

00:24:50.860 the left at all? The reason is because the left is more or less completely unified behind the

00:24:59.820 progressive ideology. Some are more progressive, some are less progressive, but they're all basically

00:25:04.980 on the same team. On the right, that is not true. On the right, conservatives, just as a matter of our

00:25:11.360 natural disposition, we love to bicker with each other and pick fights and all divide all the time

00:25:15.980 and say, it'd be very nitpicky. But also there are just genuine, massive differences of opinion and

00:25:24.020 purpose on the right. And we're so divided, we cannot unite. And some of the more subversive

00:25:31.380 elements on the right have just been caught with their pants down. So we might, we might have to

00:25:36.320 divide a little bit more before we can unite, but we'll get to that in one second. You know,

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00:26:27.200 The right has always been somewhat splintered. When William F. Buckley Jr. helped to form the,

00:26:48.020 in many ways founded the post-war conservative movement, he united three groups, the traditional

00:26:54.400 conservatives and the, and the religious right. Also, they're not, they're not identical, but

00:26:59.060 it's got sort of similar. The economic libertarians and the foreign policy hawks,

00:27:05.080 many of whom were Democrats. And those three groups didn't have a whole lot in common,

00:27:09.620 but they all opposed the Soviet Union. The traditional and religious conservatives opposed

00:27:13.800 the Soviet Union because of the state mandated atheism. The economic libertarians opposed the Soviet

00:27:21.720 Union because of the economic collectivism and the foreign policy hawks opposed the Soviet Union

00:27:27.480 because of their imperial ambitions. And they all came together. They had this common enemy and it was

00:27:31.780 actually quite effective. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, this movement stopped being totally

00:27:37.600 coherent. The right didn't exactly know what it was fighting for. You had kind of the confusion of

00:27:41.540 the 1990s and the 2000s. What are we about? What are we for? Some people on the right are these

00:27:46.440 Wilsonian internationalists in foreign policy who want to adventure all around the globe and never

00:27:51.280 saw a Middle Eastern country they didn't want to bomb. Some people are sort of isolationists. You

00:27:56.500 think of the Ron Paul wing of the right. They don't want to go to war basically for any reason

00:28:01.280 whatsoever. How on earth are those two groups on the same side? You had these kind of libertarians

00:28:06.360 and I actually don't even think that phrase is fair to libertarians. You had kind of a more

00:28:10.280 libertine element of the right. P.J. O'Rourke joked about this group in a very famous essay called

00:28:16.020 Republican Party reptile. How to drive fast on drugs while getting your wing-wang squeezed and 0.72

00:28:21.240 not spill your drink. I believe that was the title of the essay. Kind of joking about this actual

00:28:26.580 phenomenon on the right. This kind of wolf of Wall Street, you know, go out there and totally

00:28:31.700 violate the moral order but we're all about making money and, you know, keeping the GDP going up or

00:28:35.760 something, right? So you had that element and then you have the traditional guys on the right who,

00:28:39.620 you know, show up to Latin mass with their 13 children and they're all buttoned up and they're all

00:28:44.160 very proper. How do those two elements work together? You have the neoconservatives who were

00:28:49.260 kind of liberals who got mugged by reality. I think that was the word of, of Irving Kristol.

00:28:53.860 You had, now you have the populists. You have all these different groups. The most, most loathsome

00:28:59.260 among any group that even pretends to call itself right-wing is the Lincoln Project. You know,

00:29:05.600 the Lincoln Project are these guys who are funded by left-wing billionaires and their whole purpose is to

00:29:10.760 go out and say, we're conservatives and Republicans, but we hate Trump, you know, and we also hate Senate

00:29:16.340 Republicans and we also hate House Republicans and we only work for Democrats now. And they milk

00:29:21.560 Democratic donors for money and they get themselves fancy houses and pay off their debts. Well, they,

00:29:26.940 they have just hit a snag. And I, I wasn't going to bring up this story because it involves someone

00:29:34.960 named John Weaver. John Weaver is a former McCain top strategist, a former top strategist to John

00:29:42.940 Kasich. He's been around GOP politics for a while. He worked for Democrats for a little bit too. And

00:29:47.740 now he's obviously working for Democrats again, but, but generally he's known as a sort of liberal

00:29:52.760 Republican. I wasn't going to mention this story when it first broke before it had really been

00:29:59.600 thoroughly investigated in public because I coincidentally happened to have briefly been

00:30:05.960 on a campaign with John Weaver. I don't know him very well and it's not like we were bosom buddies

00:30:11.000 or anything, but I just felt, okay, you know, I'm, I'm not going to start taking snipes even at former

00:30:16.440 Republicans until the story is really fleshed out. Now the story is fleshed out and we got to talk about

00:30:21.260 it. Ryan Jerdusky broke this story. Great, uh, very tough minded, young conservative journalist.

00:30:28.260 And, uh, and thinker and writer. Jerdusky breaks the story that John Weaver had been

00:30:34.640 messaging young boys and young men, but even people as young as like 14 years old on the internet and

00:30:43.440 sort of grooming them and things were becoming sexually explicit. And he, uh, was kind of dangling,

00:30:51.200 poor choice of verb. He was offering kind of political opportunities, uh, in exchange for

00:30:56.920 sexual activity. 21 men have since come out and said that Weaver did this to them.

00:31:07.800 Nobody wanted to cover this story. Jerdusky basically single-handedly forced the story on

00:31:12.440 people. When he started to break the story, all the news outlets kind of played defense for Weaver.

00:31:18.940 The Lincoln project remained completely mum about it. They were just hoping the thing would blow over.

00:31:23.580 John Weaver came out and made the, the Kevin Spacey defense. He came out and said, look,

00:31:28.520 I'm a deeply closeted gay man, but I'm now I'm a, I'm a gay guy. And please don't look into any of

00:31:34.000 the details about what, what just happened. The Lincoln project styles itself, the principled

00:31:39.980 conservatives. They are so much more principled than Donald Trump, who's unprincipled and all the

00:31:44.940 conservatives who support him, they're unprincipled, fascist, terrible, authoritarian, 0.96

00:31:48.600 illiberal, whatever, you know. Nobody is less principled than the Lincoln project.

00:31:55.020 They finally have to acknowledge this when the New York times picked up the story after Ryan had

00:32:00.940 done all of this good work. Finally, the New York times picks it up. And now the Lincoln project

00:32:04.540 pretends to just learn about it. They have this, put out this press release because they're so,

00:32:09.280 they're so disloyal. Even they don't even have the integrity to defend their guy whose actions it

00:32:15.120 would seem they knew about for quite some time. They don't even have that integrity. They say he's,

00:32:18.940 it's deplorable what he did. It's awful. He's odious. He lived a double life. People knew that

00:32:23.180 these rumors were going on about Weaver for a long time. They, they worked with him. They obviously

00:32:28.520 knew about it. Steve Schmidt, who's another ex-Republican, one of these guys whose whole job

00:32:33.600 is to go on liberal outlets and talk about how terrible Republicans are. He made his whole career

00:32:38.160 and all of his money off of Republicans. And then the minute that dried up, he goes and dances for the

00:32:43.220 liberals. According to the New York times, Steve Schmidt, co-founder of the group said its leaders

00:32:47.340 had learned last summer from social media posts that Mr. Weaver, who has a wife and two children

00:32:51.540 might be involved in relationships with men, but emphasized there was no awareness or insinuations

00:32:56.780 of any type of inappropriate behavior when we became aware of the chatter at the time.

00:33:02.320 Pause. Hold on for a second there. Steve Schmidt is saying that his close business partner,

00:33:09.340 someone he's known for a very long time, John Weaver, who has a wife and two children,

00:33:13.220 was cheating on his wife with dudes. But that was not inappropriate behavior. He's saying,

00:33:21.040 look, yeah, we knew he was cheating on his wife with dudes all the time, but we didn't,

00:33:24.820 we didn't think he was doing anything inappropriate. What does that say about your

00:33:28.040 moral compass, Steve Schmidt? What does that say about your moral compass, Project Lincoln?

00:33:34.960 Obviously, obviously, it's just a bunch of preening and nonsense. These are the sort of guys who say

00:33:40.500 country over party, another meaningless phrase. You join a political party because you think it'll

00:33:45.300 help your country. To say there's some dichotomy between country and party, it doesn't make any

00:33:49.840 sense. It's just sanctimony. It is a grift. I try not to use that word because it's overused in

00:33:55.640 politics. This thing is a grift. Rick Wilson, one of the founders of the Lincoln Project,

00:34:01.520 is as, is as foul-mouthed and vicious as anybody, far more so. He makes Trump look like a Boy Scout. 0.96

00:34:07.600 And he's got photos of himself waving the Confederate flag around. He's not holding it up.

00:34:12.540 I think the Confederate flag is on his cooler while he's tossing back brewskis. Now he's going to say,

00:34:17.380 oh, the illiberal, awful conservatives, they've abandoned their principles.

00:34:22.860 These guys are, are essentially the least principled people in politics.

00:34:30.380 It's funny because I, I didn't want to mention the Weaver story because it's just,

00:34:33.380 it's very sad. It's very sad for his family. I, I, you know, if it's already out there,

00:34:37.560 I didn't feel I needed to pile on. In many ways, I feel I'm sort of defending Weaver against the rest

00:34:42.500 of the Lincoln Project here. Because Weaver, whatever he did, Weaver has done some really,

00:34:47.100 really, really shady things in politics. Some things that I learned out actually that he'd even done

00:34:52.200 to groups that I was involved with after the fact. But these guys are no better. Steve Schmidt,

00:35:00.580 Rick Wilson, these guys are no better. If we are going to have a united, the other reason I bring

00:35:06.540 this up, not just to dunk on the Lincoln Project, which is a fun thing to do, not just to go after

00:35:10.680 squishy Republicans who dance for liberals for a living, but it's because the reason we can't fight

00:35:16.840 the Biden administration right now is because we're not united. But the reason we're not united is

00:35:22.120 because, in large part, of people like this. In part, it's because conservatives have this

00:35:27.940 disposition to nitpick and be contrarian. But in part, it's because there are genuinely subversive

00:35:32.140 elements that have absolutely nothing to do with the conservative movement broadly, which do not

00:35:37.800 share our aims, which do not share our vision of the country. And they need to be excised from

00:35:43.020 the conservative movement or from the American right. Very few people would consider the Lincoln

00:35:50.060 project to be right wing, at least among conservatives today. But among liberals,

00:35:55.740 it is considered right wing. And some of us, I think, cotton to that sort of thing. We give quarter

00:36:02.900 to it. We shouldn't. There's more infighting even among elected officials. Right now, Matt Gaetz,

00:36:09.100 who is generally speaking quite a talented congressman. Matt Gaetz is going after Liz Cheney. Liz Cheney is

00:36:17.360 the chairman of the Republican caucus. It's technically a leadership position in the House,

00:36:22.880 but it's not a very important one. Liz Cheney, though, voted to impeach Donald Trump. Liz Cheney

00:36:28.040 supports the impeachment of Trump very much at odds with her caucus, very much at odds with her party.

00:36:33.180 And Matt Gaetz flew to Wyoming to attack Liz Cheney. Take a listen.

00:36:37.720 I love Wyoming. I think if Liz Cheney had a rally with all of her supporters,

00:36:47.840 they could likely meet inside one of the elevators in the Capitol and still have plenty of room for

00:36:54.820 social distancing. I want to thank Representative Ocean Andrew. His first day as a state representative

00:37:04.800 was yesterday and he invited me to be here with all of you today. I'd say that's a pretty good

00:37:10.660 start for the young man. I'll confess to you, this is my first time in Wyoming. I've been here for

00:37:22.080 about an hour and I feel like I already know the place a lot better than your misguided representative,

00:37:28.040 Liz Cheney. Pretty rough attacks. Now, I know that a lot of people in Washington,

00:37:34.800 a lot of Washington Republicans, they say, come on, stop it. Stop the infighting. Stop the

00:37:39.320 infighting. And this is, this is where conservatives need to be very focused. We need to be very precise.

00:37:47.140 Do we really want to kick out of the party, Liz Cheney and people like Liz Cheney, people who maybe

00:37:54.640 they're more like Bush Republicans. Maybe they're more like Cheney Republicans. I don't know. Maybe

00:37:58.560 they're more kind of more foreign policy hawks. I don't know. More liberal Republicans, generally

00:38:03.940 speaking. Do we want to completely kick them out of the party? I think that would be crazy.

00:38:08.460 You wouldn't, you wouldn't have enough people. You wouldn't, you'd, you'd lose more people than I

00:38:13.420 think those of us on the conservative side would be willing to admit. Now, many people on the liberal

00:38:20.160 side want to kick out people like Matt Gaetz or they want to kick out people like Josh Hawley or they

00:38:25.040 want to kick out people like Ted Cruz or they want to get, who don't even all agree with one another,

00:38:28.340 but they all represent sort of less liberal elements. Do we want to kick those out? No,

00:38:34.220 we can't do it. If we, do we want a new Patriot party? That was another suggestion. Should there

00:38:38.080 be a new third party? No. If we had a Patriot party, you just give all the elections to Democrats. 0.99

00:38:43.100 However, you can't let this kind of division just fester and fester and fester. So it would seem to me

00:38:48.100 perfectly reasonable that Liz Cheney should not serve in Republican leadership. 0.99

00:38:54.700 I don't think she should be kicked out of the House of Representatives. I don't think 0.68

00:38:57.500 she should be kicked out of the Republican party, but her position on a very, very important issue,

00:39:02.940 the historic, unprecedented second impeachment of the ex-president, her position on that is,

00:39:11.260 it's too serious. It's too, it's too at odds with the party. She cannot make a credible claim to be

00:39:18.920 leading the party. So she should return to be rank and file and maybe, and, and she should still have 0.57

00:39:27.440 her rights to, you know, be exercised within the caucus and within the party. But the conservatives

00:39:33.740 are not going to effectively counter the Biden administration. If we have leadership that opposes

00:39:40.540 the conservative base, it's just not going to happen. You know, Matt Gaetz talked about,

00:39:47.220 in this same speech, he, he talked about something I'd never heard about before,

00:39:51.340 but it's an interesting lens through which to view all of this stuff, the opposition to Fauci,

00:39:57.080 the Robin Hood stuff, the infighting on the GOP. He called it prairie populism.

00:40:02.000 My grandfather was a small town mayor in not too distant North Dakota. He passed before his time,

00:40:09.380 but not before passing into legend. And he passed along a little wisdom to my dad. My old man calls it

00:40:17.500 prairie populism. Do right by your people. Never sell out. Fight their dislikes. And never,

00:40:27.000 never let the powerful run over the weak. Inspire people through courage and tell the truth.

00:40:35.960 The truth is that the establishment in both political parties have teamed up to screw our

00:40:44.340 fellow Americans for generations. I know that there are many Republicans and conservatives.

00:40:50.920 They get, they get shivers when they hear this word populism. This is happening. This is something

00:41:00.800 that the American people are sensing and they are sensing it for good reason. They're sensing that

00:41:06.400 there is something very corrupt about this establishment. Are we really to believe that

00:41:10.100 the educational establishment is totally corrupt? The administrative state is totally corrupt.

00:41:13.600 Hollywood is totally corrupt. But the big tech, totally corrupt. But the financial 0.94

00:41:21.140 establishment is like totally fine, 100% totally fine? No. Foreign policy establishment, totally. No,

00:41:27.480 of course not. There is something happening here. Senator Cruz talks about this as the Republican Party

00:41:34.180 becoming the party of Pittsburgh and the Democrats becoming the party of Paris. It's a very nice

00:41:38.700 political formulation of that. For most of my life, Republicans have appeared to be the party of

00:41:42.760 plutocrats. Now they are the party of the people. Some people are not adjusting well to that. If the

00:41:48.040 Republican Party is to have an effective governing coalition, an elective coalition moving forward,

00:41:52.940 they have to be able to make that claim. It's why the left is so focused on burying these guys who

00:41:58.620 dare question the establishment and who dare invoke the language of populism.

00:42:04.100 Speaking of Republican division, President Trump's legal team has collapsed. So his lawyers have left.

00:42:14.420 We are now being told that it is a mutual separation. The lawyers wanted to leave and Trump wanted them to

00:42:19.260 leave too. This ahead of his impeachment trial. You know, earlier I said that Trump was impeached after,

00:42:25.680 after he left office. And that's not, not quite right. I mean, that's not, that's not precise in

00:42:34.040 that he was impeached while he was in office, but then he left because they impeached him days before

00:42:38.060 he was leaving office. Now the trial is going to be of an ex-president. So is it an impeachment of a

00:42:42.280 president or impeachment of an ex-president? It would seem if the, if the question of conviction is going

00:42:45.780 to be after he's left office, it's the impeachment of, of an ex-president, which is constitutionally

00:42:50.100 absurd. Chief justice not presiding. So it's probably by the, by the letter of the constitution,

00:42:55.800 not even an actual impeachment trial. And this is why I'm not too worried about Trump losing his

00:43:02.240 lawyers. You know, he'll get new lawyers. It, I think he already has new lawyers. It, it might upset

00:43:11.200 whatever arguments the other guys were presenting. It might have been a missed opportunity, but the

00:43:16.420 impeachment itself is a joke. You have on the record enough senators saying this is completely absurd

00:43:24.320 that barring some totally unforeseen event, Trump wouldn't be convicted. So who cares? They could go

00:43:32.800 there, the Trump legal team could go there and read, read Dr. Seuss. Probably wouldn't change anybody's

00:43:38.920 views. Certainly not enough people to convict the president. Even that though, even the, the continued

00:43:46.140 fighting over Donald Trump and the person of Donald Trump, I guess it has to do with these divisions

00:43:51.100 that are going on within the GOP. We need to be very, very careful here in this moment. We need to,

00:43:57.360 we need to avoid papering over differences that are substantive, right? And just pretending that we

00:44:04.700 can all go along to get along and the only thing we can agree on is cutting taxes, but that's fine.

00:44:09.440 We'll put the other stuff for another day. That has not served us very well for the past 20 years.

00:44:13.500 Likewise, we can't be so vicious that we, we just divide ourselves so that we're, we're each simply

00:44:23.000 a party of one and we can't get together and do anything in politics. I remember, I forget who told

00:44:28.060 me this, but there was, he was describing the difference between Bill Clinton and Rudy Giuliani.

00:44:33.460 This was years ago. They said, Bill Clinton is the kind of politician who could go into a room

00:44:37.940 with a hundred people who disagree with him and each other, and he could find the one point of

00:44:45.520 agreement with each of them. Yeah, you like cigars, me too, huh? You know, he could, maybe not that,

00:44:51.640 maybe even more substantive than that. Rudy Giuliani is the opposite kind of politician. He could go into

00:44:57.080 a room with a hundred people who agree with him and each other, and he would find the one area of

00:45:01.060 disagreement. And I think this gets to the difference between the liberal and the conservative

00:45:04.980 disposition. Conservatives, especially in this culture, we're just by nature sort of contrarian.

00:45:11.220 And we, all we want to do is talk about our differences, the differences between the

00:45:14.400 libertarians and the traditional conservatives and the neocons and the this and the that and the

00:45:18.500 this and the that. We can't do anything together in politics if we refuse to ally with one another.

00:45:25.800 Now, I think one key aspect to uniting conservatives moving forward is we've got to just stop focusing

00:45:35.340 on, rather, we've got to stop focusing on the formal aspect of politics to the exclusion of the

00:45:41.840 substance. And what I mean by that is we've got to stop putting a hundred percent of our focus

00:45:47.160 on free speech, you know, bumper sticker or slogan, free speech. And we've got to start talking about

00:45:53.380 what we want to say. We've got to stop talking about a hundred percent of the time, bumper sticker

00:45:58.940 slogan, religious liberty. We've got to start talking about what we believe. There was an

00:46:03.740 excellent, excellent op-ed in the Wall Street Journal today by Ryan T. Anderson, who was for a long time

00:46:09.480 at Heritage Foundation. Now he's leading the Ethics and Public Policy Institute. It's called

00:46:13.840 Religious Liberty Isn't Enough. Religious Liberty Isn't Enough. Cultural conservatives also need to

00:46:20.540 defend our views, which are scientifically sound and popular. I've talked about this before. I think

00:46:28.360 conservatives, really only the last 15 or 20 years, have started to believe these shallow bumper

00:46:35.020 sticker slogans, which in the past conservatives did not believe. So we believe that free speech in

00:46:40.200 the American tradition means you can say absolutely whatever you want to say at all times and we should

00:46:44.560 encourage all manner of speech. Conservatives have never believed that. First of all, it's never been

00:46:49.960 true. There have always been broad swaths of speech that are not permitted, namely threats, sedition,

00:46:56.400 fighting words, fraud, obscenity, all these sorts of things. Conservatives were never the ones saying we

00:47:02.600 need to get rid of all barriers to speech because we know that standards must exist. This is a limited

00:47:08.760 world. We have limited language. If we do have a certain speech regime, we're not going to have a

00:47:14.440 different one. This is even clearer with religious liberty. Right now in public schools in New York,

00:47:20.260 in certain public schools, students are taught that boys and girls can choose their own gender

00:47:27.320 and there's no such thing as immutable biological sex. Four and five-year-olds are being taught this.

00:47:33.720 The trouble with that, if you want to protect that view under, I guess, religious liberty because that

00:47:38.500 religion is called Gnostic dualism. If you want to protect that view, you are necessarily excluding

00:47:45.020 the traditional view, the Christian view, the Jewish view, the Muslim view, that there is such a thing

00:47:49.720 as men and women and men can't become women and women can't become men. You can't simultaneously

00:47:54.800 protect both views. You have to choose one. If a little child in school is going to get in trouble

00:48:04.060 for saying that Sally can't become Steve, then he can't practice Christianity openly or Judaism

00:48:10.480 or Islam. We need to, we need to come out and defend certain views. That requires doing the work that

00:48:21.900 we've basically been putting off since the end of the Cold War. And really, maybe you could say been

00:48:26.300 putting off for much longer before that, which is figuring out what we stand for. From 1945 until

00:48:34.400 the fall of the Berlin Wall, we stood for opposing communism, right? And various sort of political

00:48:40.460 ideas fell downstream from that. Afterward, what did we stand for? It just was totally unclear in the

00:48:46.320 nineties and the two thousands. Now that Trump has really accelerated that debate because he does

00:48:51.260 stand for certain things, right? He's willing to go out on a limb and say, no, we need less immigration.

00:48:55.920 Now we need to protect American industry. We need, it was really ripping up some of the old kind of

00:49:01.360 orthodoxies that had ossified over time. What do we stand for? We can't just bury our heads in the

00:49:10.000 sand. The country will continue to rip apart at the seams if we do that. We've got to answer that.

00:49:14.120 That takes courage, which is the prerequisite for all the other virtues. We have to acknowledge that

00:49:18.280 there is such a thing as virtue. Can we do it or are we just destined to descend into more and more

00:49:24.460 decadence? I guess we'll find out. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. See you

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The Michael Knowles Show - February 01, 2021

Ep. 690 - The Constitutional Stress Test

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