Ep. 697 - The Fake Impeachment Trial
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Summary
A cat accidentally disrupts a civil forfeiture hearing and the judge has to decide whether to continue the hearing or not. Plus, PETA says GOAT is an anti-animal rights advocate. Plus, the latest in the fake impeachment trial.
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In Texas this week, a civil forfeiture hearing took a wrong turn when the county attorney, Rod Ponton,
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So all of the parties privy to this forfeiture hearing zoomed into the call,
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and you see a judge and you see people wearing suits.
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And then there's this one county attorney who would appear to be a big, fluffy cat.
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And the older gentlemen who were on this call tried to figure out how to proceed with the hearing
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I believe you have a filter turned on in the video settings.
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She's trying to, but I'm prepared to go forward with it.
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I, I believe you, Mr. Attorney, that you are not a cat.
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Though that is certainly the sort of thing a cat would say if you were trying to crash a civil forfeiture hearing.
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The thing about that legal hearing is that it was still much more serious and productive
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than the fake impeachment trial that's going on in Washington, D.C. right now.
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Six Republican senators voted with the Democrats to continue this farce,
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this fake impeachment trial of the ex-president in Washington, D.C.
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You had, generally speaking, all the Republicans were against it because it's a sham and it's
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Generally speaking, you had all the Democrats for it because it's a sham and it's unconstitutional,
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And then you had these six squish, useless Republicans.
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Their names are Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
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Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania.
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You know, I try not to use that kind of blunt language all the time.
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I'm not, I don't, I don't usually do my impression of Don Rickles or Donald Trump for that matter,
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Ben Sasse, I think has a PhD, but it would appear that they can't read.
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They certainly can't read the plain text of the constitution, which makes it very clear.
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Even if you had no other historical or political sense or, or knowledge, surely you could read
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the constitution, which shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that this proceeding is preposterous.
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We've alluded to it many times as we've been talking about this sham impeachment hearing,
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The kind of impeachment we're talking of the president of the United States comes from two
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Article two, section four reads, the president, vice president, and all civil officers of the
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United States shall be removed from office on impeachment for and conviction of treason,
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bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
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Donald Trump is on trial right now, sort of, in DC.
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Donald Trump is neither the president, nor the vice president, nor any civil officer of the United
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States. As such, he cannot be removed from office.
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Notice, I don't even need to get into how preposterous it is that they are, what are they
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accusing him of? Treason? What's the argument? They don't have any argument.
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Bribery? No. They sort of tried that one. That didn't quite work.
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High crimes and misdemeanors. What's the crime? What's the, I'm not even getting into that.
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I'm just saying as a purely technical matter, the guy doesn't meet the criteria. But then it's even
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clearer when you get into article one, section three, which reads, the Senate shall have the
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sole power to try all impeachments. Okay. We've, that, that's working out, right? Because the
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Senate is holding whatever this trial is. Goes on though. When sitting for that purpose,
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they, the Senate shall be on oath or affirmation. When the president of the United States is tried,
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the chief justice shall preside. And no, actually I want to pause right there just to underscore the
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point. The president of the United States is not being tried. So therefore this is not a
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constitutional impeachment trial. Furthermore, the chief justice of the Supreme Court is not
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presiding. Some random Democrat Senator is presiding. Therefore, this does not meet the
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constitutional criteria of an impeachment trial. The article goes on. No person shall be convicted
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without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present. Judgment in cases of impeachment
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shall not extend further than to, this is very important, shall not extend further than to removal from
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office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United
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States. Goes on. So there, there can't be some additional consequences, but, but beyond that,
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the only consequence that you can have for this trial is removal from office and, not removal from
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office or removal from office and the prohibition that you, you can't run for office again. The one
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tangible thing that the Democrats think they can try to get here is they can prevent Trump from
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running for president again, because they're so confident that he did poorly in 2020, right? That's
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why, that's why they're holding this unprecedented sham impeachment trial, right? It's because they're
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so confident that they're so much more popular. Joe Biden, most popular guy ever elected, right?
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Probably not. Their actions would, would seem to undermine that contention. But furthermore,
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there cannot be that consequence here because the consequence of impeachment is removal from office
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and the prohibition from running again. They can't remove him from office. They can't remove him from
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office because he's not in office. They can't do any of those things because he's not the president.
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That's why they can't hold a legitimate impeachment trial. And these people, these six Republican losers,
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I've, I've just had it with them. I, I always try to say, well, you know, Susan Collins, she's in a tight
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spot. Uh, Murkowski, oh, Romney did this one like sort of semi-okay thing maybe once. I don't know. He's a good
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family man. That's what you always say about politicians that you can't say anything nice about. You say he's a
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good family man. Ben Sasse, I say, I don't know, I guess he's sort of, he says conservative things
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sometimes, but then he doesn't act in a conservative manner. But I'm at my wit's end. If the, if these
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guys can't read the text of the constitution, stand up for something that actually matters, then, then
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what's, what's the point of them? They, I guess, I guess the point of them is this category that we've
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been talking about on the show a lot, which is they are court jester conservatives. They exist to do a
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little soft shoe, do a little dance, kind of pretend to say some conservative things, and then
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ultimately to legitimize the liberal regime. Their job is ultimately to lose. I was thinking, you know,
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forget the guys can't read the constitution. Even if they could read the constitution, they clearly
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don't understand politics. Democrats would never do this sort of thing because it's politically
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masochistic. It's not based on any principle. It's just, it's just so, so wrong. So I thought,
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these guys just don't understand the politics. Then I thought, you know, maybe they do understand
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the politics. Maybe they do understand the politics and they're just not on our side.
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That's even worse, isn't it? Either way, this, this really should be the end of their political
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careers. I guess it probably won't be, but it certainly should be. You know, sometimes politics
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is relatively friendly, relatively, that's the key word here is relatively. Sometimes it's truly
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vicious. We're much closer to the latter end of things at the moment. Anderson Cooper summed this
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up on CNN. When Anderson Cooper was talking about, you know, unity and healing and how we need to be
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inclusive and tolerant and everything, we can't otherize people. As he compares basically every
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Republican to the worst sort of killers, genocidal maniacs, most vicious people in the history of the
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world. You know, part of it, I think just based on what you were just saying, it comes to mind,
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the idea of otherizing people is something I think we saw a lot of over the last four years. I mean,
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something we've seen a lot over the last decades, but it's so easy to otherize people, to make people
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other than, other than American, other than patriotic, other than, than human, you know,
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and we've seen it in Bosnia. We've seen it in Rwanda where radio was telling people that, you
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know, Hutus were telling the radio listeners that Tutsi were cockroaches for, you know,
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getting them ginned up for genocide. Um, and you see it in, in these videos where people who claim
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they are patriots are in the face of a police officer calling him, uh, you know, as we're seeing
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it right there. Yeah. Gosh, could you imagine if the left ever said anything mean to or about the
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police, you know, like all of 2020? No, but that forget about that. We were just talking about
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the Republicans for a moment here, because you see, we don't want to other eyes. We don't want
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to other, the Republicans are other rising people. You know, those awful, vicious, deplorable,
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irredeemable Republicans, those neo-Nazi there, they are other rising people. You know, those
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Republicans who are, who are just like the genocidal regime in Rwanda, you know, them, those people,
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they have nothing redeeming about them and we need to ostracize them from the country.
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They're so evil and terrible. They're other rising people, you see, and it's very bad to
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otherize people. Why? If you otherize people, you'd be like those Republican cockroaches who
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need to be rooted out, pull them out of the country. Darn it. Does Anderson Cooper not know
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what he's saying? He probably knows what he's saying. He probably knows how ironic what he's
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saying is, but he doesn't care. He's just, he is other rising people, right? He's projecting
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in the way the left always projects. And these snakes, these snake Republicans want to join.
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I'm talking about the real snake Republicans. I'm other rising Mitt Romney and company.
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They're joining in an unconstitutional, unconstitutional proceeding aimed at not
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just Donald Trump, but aimed at all the rest of us. Not good. Not good. You know, you can't trust
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comparing most Republicans, virtually all Republicans to a genocidal dictators, to neo-Nazis, to all sorts
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of terrible things. These six Republicans, the sort of Mitt Romney, Ben Sasse types, these guys,
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Murkowski, Collins, they're joining with the Democrats. We should strongly consider kicking
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them out of the Republican Party. This is a different matter than Liz Cheney. I want to be
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very specific here. Liz Cheney did something that I think was extremely stupid and I disagree with.
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And I wish that the Republican Party did not include, you know, these sorts of ideas. I wish
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Liz Cheney would come over to the conservative way of thinking. But what Liz Cheney did was justifiable.
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Liz Cheney, a member of the House, Republican leadership too, but a member of the House,
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voted to impeach the then sitting duly elected President Donald Trump. Even though he was a
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member of her own party, even though there was no good argument for impeachment, she voted her
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conscience. Her conscience might be faulty, but she voted her conscience. That was a legitimate vote.
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The vote that the House took before Trump left office was arguably a legitimate impeachment vote.
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So I don't think Liz Cheney should be kicked out of the Republican Party. She probably should be
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removed from leadership because she doesn't represent, I think, most Republicans, certainly
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not the base. But she shouldn't be kicked out of the party. What these senators are doing,
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Sasse, Romney, Murkowski, all of them, they're doing something very different. They are engaging in
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an anti-constitutional charade that is upending American political norms, that is illegal,
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that is vicious, that is politically deaf, and that is constitutionally illiterate.
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They should not remain in the Republican Party. There's a reason that these people are getting
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censure votes. It's not just because the kooky, crazy base doesn't understand the brilliant
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moderation and Madisonian temperament of these people. It's because they're wrong. They've
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betrayed their party. They've betrayed the constitution, and they're just bad politicians,
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and they're losers, and I don't see what benefit they bring to the party or to the country.
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I think I've made my position on these people clear, clear enough. These guys, these snakes in the
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grass are towing the White House line on impeachment. Frankly, they're going further than the White
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House. Jen Psaki is asked, our favorite press secretary right now, because she's the only press
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secretary, Jen Psaki is asked about the White House's opinion on the quote unquote impeachment
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trial. She won't even go out on a limb and say, oh, it's definitely constitutional or it's this or
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it's that. She's being actually fairly circumspect in her answers. The quote unquote Republican
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senators, six of them, are much further to the left on this question, even than the White House.
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Listen to her answer on the constitutionality of the trial.
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I don't think that's for me or us to opine on. Obviously, he said that the process should proceed,
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It's not for us to opine on. Of course, it is for you to opine on. You are one of
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the three branches of government, and impeachment directly involves the White House, right? Who
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gets tried? During normal impeachment trials, the president gets tried. We're in this kind of weird
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world, this bizarro world, where a private citizen is being tried at a Senate impeachment trial.
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But ordinarily, this would involve the White House. So surely you have a reason to opine on it.
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The reason she doesn't want to opine is because this is constitutionally absurd.
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And the logical next step is going to be whenever the Republicans have the House,
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maybe they don't even need to have the Senate, but especially if they did have the Senate,
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what would be the logical next step is to just impeach some ex-Democrat president.
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Barack Obama did many, many dodgier things than Donald Trump. Barack Obama committed what I think
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are actual impeachable offenses. So we'd have to get a little more in the, in the detail on what
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happened during the 2016 election when Barack Obama's administration spied on his political
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rival, Donald Trump. Seems, seems wrong to me. Seems like an abuse of power to me. Seems criminal
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to me. Or when Barack Obama used his IRS to target his political opponents. Seems criminal to me.
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Or when, or when, or when. Many such examples. So good. I can't wait. I can't wait till Republicans
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get the House and we can impeach Barack Obama. Well, no, Michael, you understand. Trump was
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impeached by the House when he was still in office, but he's being tried after he left office. Okay.
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Well, that's a subtle distinction. That's not going to matter in the future because it's
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completely disingenuous, but fine. Okay. We'll wait until we can impeach the Democrat president
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while he's sitting and then we'll try him after he's left office. Fine. Fine. Obviously the White
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House doesn't want this sort of thing. They don't want Joe Biden to be tried however many years from
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now. So Jen Psaki is not going to give a direct answer. She's just going to speak in broad tones
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because they like the fact of the impeachment trial, but they don't want to go on the record
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saying they support it. So what do they talk about? They go back to sort of platitudes about
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incendiary rhetoric. As millions of people tune in to watch this trial, presumably throughout the
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week, they're going to see the former president's lawyers argue based on the briefs that they have
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filed that some Democrats have used incendiary rhetoric. They are going to point to
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Representative Maxine Waters, for example, who in 2018 called on supporters at a rally to confront
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and at one point harass Trump officials over their support of the child separation policy,
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the zero tolerance policy. That's something that Cedric Richmond said she had a constitutional right
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to express those views. So how does the White House view that as any different?
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Look, the president is Joe Biden is the president. He's not a pundit. He's not going to opine on
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the back and forth arguments, nor is he watching them that are taking place in the Senate.
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So that was a very good question from the reporter, actually. Occasionally, you get a good question
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in these White House briefings. And Jen Psaki obviously has no answer, has no answer, because
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this is the political aspect that drives me crazy about these snake in the grass,
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fake Republicans at the fake impeachment trial. At least I'll say nominal Republicans. They are
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registered Republicans. They're members of the party for now. They seem very eager to attack the
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president for actually calling for peaceful political demonstrations, but then one of them
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turned violent for a few hours. They don't seem particularly interested in holding Democratic
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politicians' feet to the fire when they actually called for violent, political violence against
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Republicans. Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, Kamala Harris, not only supporting the
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violence, but actually bailing the violent rioters out of prison, out of jail, rather.
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These Republicans are basically nowhere to be found. Mitt Romney marched with BLM, right?
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BLM spends much of 2020 burning the country to the ground, ripping down our statues, setting businesses
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on fire, setting government buildings on fire. And there's Mitt Romney, principled Mitt Romney,
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marching with them. An explicitly Marxist organization, the founders of it, saying we
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are Marxists. Recently, Patrice Cullors, who is one of the founders of BLM, came out. She said,
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look, there's been a lot of misinformation. People are saying I'm a Marxist. Well, I am.
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She actually did a video saying like, yeah, I am. You got me. An organization that says they exist to
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undermine the Western prescribed nuclear family. They finally nuked that from their About Us page,
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but it was up for a very, very long time. You can still find it in the internet archives.
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Mitt Romney marches with them, but he's got to stand on principle because Trump said that there
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might've been election irregularities. He, and in front, you know what? I'm, I'm even willing to
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grant maybe his rhetoric was a little bit Trumpian, you know, it was a little hyperbolic perhaps,
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but he was calling attention to something. There were many, many, many irregularities. In some cases
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in the election, there was an outright violation of the state constitution in the way the election was
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held. So I'm not, I'm not even defending the Trump rhetoric. All I'm pointing out is the rank hypocrisy
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from these so-called principled conservatives who give the left a pass for doing much, much, much worse
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sort of stuff and take every opportunity to jump at the Republicans. There's a lot of,
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a lot of hypocrisy here. You know, the New York times, I'll bring it back to the New York times.
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New York times recently fired one of their writers. I think he was a science writer because
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years ago he said the N word, you know, the, I'm not, if I say the N word right now, even in,
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just to give you context for it, I'll probably be sent to the gulag. So I want, I'm just saying the
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N word, right? He said the N word, but he actually said the word just in context to say, well,
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if you say this word, what does that mean? He was fired for saying that in a private conversation
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years ago, New York times says we have a zero tolerance policy on the N word.
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Never going to say this, the executive editor, Dean Beckett, managing editor, Joe Kahn. But it
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turns out, uh, Nicole, I'm sorry, Hannah Nicole Jones, who's the head of the anti-American 1619
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project. She has said the N word publicly. Now we've been told the New York times says,
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doesn't matter the context. If you ever utter the N word, let's say you're reading Huck Finn
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out loud. If you ever say you can't work at the New York times, do you think they're going to fire
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Hannah Nicole Jones? No, they have a, they have a sort of hierarchy and certain people get to say
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certain things. Certain people don't. New York times, by the way, it's a sort of amusing, uh,
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exercise. Just if you look up that word on the New York times archive, the New York times were using
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that left and right until quite recently, actually. But now, now there's a special rule. The rule only
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applies to some people though, of course, that's, that's how it works at the times and on the left
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broadly. Matt Walsh is going to be getting more into this fake impeachment trial. He's going to be
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getting into the left wing conspiracy theorists who are, I kid you not, I did see this. I'm
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interested to hear Matt's take on it because I only saw the headlines. They're trying to make the
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cracker barrel logo into a racist dog whistle. Cracker barrel, you know, like that great down
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home country store and restaurant. Yeah. They're trying to make that into a, uh, there's a secret
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subliminal racist dog whistle. You know, the left seems to be the only people who hear these dog
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whistles. So does, doesn't that mean therefore that the left are, I don't, doesn't make them cats.
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Racial politics seeping into everything these days, creating lots of hypocrisy at the New York
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Times, now possibly affecting Cracker Barrel, absolutely contrived non-traversy there. And of
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course, affecting Aunt Jemima. Poor Aunt Jemima, pour one out, pour out some syrup for our dearly
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departed Aunt Jemima, who you'll recall during the George Floyd riots, for some reason, everyone
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decided that we could no longer tolerate a beloved syrup icon any longer. So Aunt Jemima got the boot.
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You can no longer see her face. I didn't realize that they're getting rid of her face, her character.
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They're, they're also getting rid of the name. So, and, and it actually, and it's very stupid and kind
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of amusing how they did this, but it does have political implications. The Aunt Jemima pancake syrup
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syrup is now called the Pearl Milling Company syrup. And there's no lady on it anywhere. There's no
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person. It's just kind of a building. They call it Pearl Milling Company. And it's, it's lame. It's
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like the, it's like the Mitt Romney of pancake syrups. Now, this is ironic, of course, because in the name of
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racial justice, these white liberals, mostly white liberals have taken a job away from a black woman
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named late to be the spokesman of, of Aunt Jemima. Now, of course, Aunt Jemima was a fictional
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character, but Aunt Jemima was portrayed by a very famous model, Nancy Green, who she portrayed Aunt
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Jemima at the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago. She was one of the first black corporate
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models in the United States. Well, that's a great accomplishment, isn't it? Well, that accomplishment
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is now being stripped from this black lady in the name of racial justice for black people. Now,
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part of the reason for this is they say, sure, Nancy Green, good for her. She was the model, but
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she was participating in a minstrel act. You'll see the character Aunt Jemima, she's not all well and good.
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She's actually a sort of old stock character from those racist minstrel shows. And therefore, sure,
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you know, she had this accomplishment, but we got to wipe it away because minstrelsy is racist.
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Now, the further irony that a lot of people don't know here is that the, the minstrel character,
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Aunt Jemima, was created by Billy Kersanz, a black guy, a black comedian who participated in the
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minstrel shows in the 1870s, very, very well-known black comedian. He created the character, old Aunt
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Jemima. So in the name of woke racial equality, pro black, I don't know, you're taking away a
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beloved black character portrayed by a famous black woman invented by a famous and beloved black man
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so that you can replace all of that with a building in the Pearl Milling Company.
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The, the political aspect to this, well, first of all, there's just a general political aspect in
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that they're, they're pushing for racial equality, but they're undermining various racial accomplishments.
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But the, the other political aspect is, I think undergirding a lot of this is the
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belief that particularity is wrong. Particularity is wrong, sort of abstraction, generalization is
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good. Because when you get into details, when you get into particularity, things get a little weird,
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things get a little more complicated. You especially see this with our history. So for the left, they say,
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yeah, all the old people that founded America and developed the country, bad. Because, you know,
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America was racist. I guess that's the go-to term. It's just now a synonym for bad. Everything is
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racist now, right? You know, Cracker Barrel's racist for some reason. Cracker Barrel, and the
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term could be racist against white people, right? Because cracker is a derogatory term for whites,
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but it's not just, it just refers to a barrel that crackers were put in. But everything now is,
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is called racist if you want to get rid of it. So you say, okay, all those old people in the past,
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in the bad old timey days, they were really bad. We got to get rid of them. But then you get into the
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specifics. You say, what about George Washington? Gosh, that guy seems pretty noble, honorable.
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Well, Thomas Jefferson, a complex guy, you know, no question, had some faults, as do we all, but,
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you know, also a very, very great man. All these sorts of people.
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Billy Kersanz, the guy who invented Aunt Jemima. Gosh, how was he, he was participating in this
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minstrelsy, which is bad, you know, by, it's one of the most prominent forms of American theater,
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right? I mean, it's an actual American contribution to the theater. It's got all, it's very problematic,
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as we say now, but it, you know, it did, did happen. It actually has a role in theater history
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and had black performers and black writers involved in it. But we're not allowed to say
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that anymore. We're not allowed to get into the specifics. You got to erase Billy Kersanz. You got
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to erase Nancy Green. You got to erase Aunt Jemima just as surely as you've got to erase
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George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln.
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All for the abstraction. This kind of perfect world that doesn't in any way partake of,
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of human nature. It's a big difference between the left and the right. You know, if you think
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about what they did in the French Revolution, the French Revolution took away, they come in,
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they take away all local affections. They take away all old neighborhoods, all old towns,
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all old loyalties and, and rituals. And they replace them with just a perfectly geometric country.
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They're just going to divide the country up in this perfect geometric way. They're going to redo
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the whole calendar in this perfect geometric way. They're going to take away all religious
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affections and make it, make them all about the abstractions to reason, something like that.
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And what does that do? The theory is, the theory is once you take away details, local affections,
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particularity, specificity, then people are going to transfer the loyalties they had to those sorts of
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things to the broader kind of contrived national or international group. But that's just not what
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happens. People don't, people don't have loyalty or affection to the United Nations, right? Nobody
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goes out, waves the United Nations flag at a sports game or something. What you do, you undermine the
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local affections, the local loyalties, the local feeling of duty, but you don't replace it with
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anything. You just get people who are sort of uprooted, who just have no, who feel transigent,
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who feel no bonds to anything. This actually ties into the Superbowl. It does in the same
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political manner, you know. This Superbowl was the lowest watched Superbowl in over a decade.
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It had fewer than a hundred million viewers, even though it was, the game itself, I guess,
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was kind of boring. But, you know, Tom Brady gets his seventh ring. That's pretty impressive,
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especially with the, with the new team. So CBS, Viacom are saying, yeah, it was fewer than a hundred
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million viewers. So, you know, that's, that's no good. You got to figure out how to turn this
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around. What's responsible for it? Partially it's the people are unplugging. You know, I, I don't pay
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for cable. I, I don't think I've ever signed up to get cable, you know, in my entire adult life,
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just stream things. And so part of it is the legacy media. They're losing a lot of ground.
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Virtually no millennial that I know or Zoomer that I know has cable or pays for cable.
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So part of it's the technological aspect. Part of it too, though, is as that goes away,
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as, you know, the common TV, as the common slate of movies, as the, as that all goes away,
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people are returning to affinity groups. You know, the, the odds that I would watch the Superbowl are
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pretty low anyway. I'm just not, not the biggest football guy in the world, but maybe, you know,
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in the old days when we were all watching the same things, maybe I'd go to a Superbowl party or
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whatever. At least I get to gamble and smoke a cigar or something. But now I'm, I'm less interested in
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that because just people are breaking up into different interest groups. The internet is helping
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to do that, right? You can spend a lot of time in your own echo chamber. And we, we speak of this in
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a bad way, but the good way is you get to spend a lot of time in your own interests, right? I'm not,
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I'm not interested in most of what is on network television. So I just ignore it. I just don't watch it.
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I'm not interested in most of what's on cable television either. So I'll go on the internet
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and I'll get to watch exactly what I want. I get to read exactly what I want. That's sort of nice.
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In a way, this is a return to normal, you know, in the mid 20th century, it's even a little earlier
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than that. Mass media just took the whole nation's attention and drew it in on itself. And we talk about
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those halcyon days when we could rely on objective journalists like, you know, Walter Cronkite or
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something, but that was probably the single greatest tool of liberalism in America, right?
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I mean, Walter Cronkite, Mr. Tell it like it is, Mr. Objective. The guy was a world federalist. The
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guy was a radical left winger and he hit it sort of well, but then every so often he loses the Vietnam
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War. You know, every so often it really comes out. In fact, much of what conservatives have tried to do
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over the past 20, 30 years is try to break up that, that lock on our attention that, that the
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liberal establishment had. Before you had this kind of mass media, especially television in the 20th
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century, you had more local affinities. You know, there was, there was a much bigger difference
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between, I don't know, Alabama and New York. Much, much greater difference. Now people lived,
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what people were interested in, the way society was structured before you had television kind of
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homogenize the whole culture. It's not, this isn't just happening in the United States. This
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happened in Italy. The construction of a national culture there was brought about largely by
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television. You, you see the, the loss of a lot of Italian dialects, specific customs when they got
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more of a national identity. Now it seems after that homogenization, we're all kind of breaking up
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again, but we're not breaking up down to little geographic areas. Alabama and New York are actually
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pretty similar now. Most, when you go, I've traveled all over this country. I've traveled
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to probably most of this country, you know, when you, when you think of major cities and states.
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The country is a lot more similar than it is different. And I'm not sure that that was true
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a hundred years ago. Now we're breaking up into affinity groups again, but they're virtual,
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they're digital. You might have a handful of people who have a shared interest in New York,
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Alabama, Alaska, and Timbuktu. And they're, they're sharing experience together. They're
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sharing a way, a way to view the world, a sort of emotional process. They're sharing art,
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they're sharing culture. They might be living next to people who have a completely different culture
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and sharing it around the globalized world. That, that is going to happen and it's, it's going to
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pose a serious problem for politics. You know, we, we've had various political orders and
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in, in the world over, over the millennia. And, uh, just as the rise of sort of the peace of
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Westphalia, the end of the religious wars, the creation of the nation state, uh, created a
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certain world order, presumably this huge social upheaval that has occurred digitally and through
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the internet, that is going to create some other kind of order. It's going to change the order a
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little bit. Is it globalism or is it a focus on particularism? Right now you're seeing both
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actually at the same time being pushed. And a lot of our political debates come down to that
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sort of thing. You know, one affinity group that we're seeing is, uh, is among American
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politically minded people, right? Everything has become politicized in the sense that everything
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has taken on a partisan character. Uh, this is a large topic of, of my book that's coming out soon,
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Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, which you can pre-order right now, wherever you order
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your books. Uh, but, uh, it, it focuses in on the rise of political correctness from 1920 to 2020
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because political correctness grew for a lot longer than a lot of people think it did. People
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came up, became aware of it in the eighties and nineties really predates it. It was a very
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intentional sort of strategy. And one of the aspects of this that occurred really in the seventies
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through the radical feminists was to politicize everything that the personal had to become the
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political, the most intimate sort of choices and interactions had to become political, political
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choices. So now, you know, you can buy the conservative running shoes or the liberal running
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shoes. You can buy the conservative coffee or the liberal coffee. This is true now of pillows.
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So, you know, there's Mike Lindell who has advertised on this show before, uh, who makes a fabulous
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product. My pillow is advertised on a lot of conservative networks. He has my pillow. Now David Hogg,
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who became a sort of celebrity after the Parkland shooting. And he formed all these various groups
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and stumped for a lot of candidates and, you know, made, made himself a sort of a sensation.
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He's founding a rival pillow company. Now there's some question as to whether or not they're actually
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going to do the pillow company because they say, well, yes, we're going to start this pillow company.
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He's, he's teamed up with an internet troll whose name I think is William Legate or Legate. Um,
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and, uh, so I don't know if it's real or if it's just kind of a publicity stunt that they were asking,
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you know, basically how to do it. How do you make a pillow company? So I don't know that it's really
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going to happen, but even the idea that this is a story shows you something about the state of our
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culture. So you have my pillow on the right and some people are calling David Hogg's company
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now pillow on the left. Uh, my, it's not a bad idea. You might have some copyright issues in China,
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but China doesn't care about copyrights anyway. So, you know, go for it. Uh, how much further
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does that go? Will this, will this affect every single product? Will the quality of the product
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matter? You know, Mike Lindell, he's not paying me to say this right now, right? He didn't buy any
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ads on the show today. The man makes a great pillow. Okay. Say what you will. You might hate his
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politics. The man makes a magnificent pillow. Will, uh, Mr. Hogg make a good pillow? I don't know. Maybe
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will it matter? I don't know. I don't know that it will, or will people's affinity for these political
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issues overcome it? You know, and Mike Lindell, uh, you know, sort of, he's an eccentric character
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in public life. He's always made himself out to be, he goes on the commercials, he goes on media a lot.
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Uh, but when, when that coronavirus really kicked up earlier in 2020, Mike Lindell went in, he said,
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I'm converting some factories from making sheets and pillowcases. I'm going to make masks. And I
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have some of Mike Lindell's masks and they're excellent masks. They're the most breathable,
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comfortable masks that I have. I don't even know if he sold them. I think he may, he may have just
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donated them or something. Uh, that was a long time ago. That was back in March and April. In May
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and June, we're told, okay, you know, the masks, you got to wear them, but it's only at 15 days to
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slow the spread. Now we're coming up on a year of this. Presumably that we should be done with the
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masks, right? The vaccine is out there. It's been going on a long time. I never wear the
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mask and I've been fine all year. Knock on wood, you know, uh, we're now being told that the masks
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are going to have to endure much, much longer. Dr. Fauci, the exalted Dr. Fauci, who famously told
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us not to wear masks, that it's stupid to wear masks. There's no reason during an outbreak to
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wear masks only gives you a false sense of security. Then he told us you have to wear the masks.
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Then he didn't wear the masks himself. He wore them on camera, but then when he thought he was off
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camera, he didn't wear them. Well, even when he was around people, even people, not in his household.
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Then Dr. Fauci said, it's stupid to wear multiple masks. Then Dr. Fauci said, you have to wear
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multiple masks. It's a very good idea to wear multiple masks, right? He said, there's no data.
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There's no evidence to show that the multiple masks work. Then he said, well, it's common sense.
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Then he goes back and forth and back and forth. Fauci now says, we're going to need to wear masks
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until the end of this year. If we can get, and I have used this as an estimate. It's not definitive
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that if we can get 70 to 85% of our population vaccinated and get to what we would hope would be
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to a degree of herd immunity, which really is an umbrella or a veil of protection against the
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community where the level of virus is so low, it's not a threat at all. Then at that point,
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you could start thinking in terms of not having to have a uniform wearing of masks, but we're
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certainly not near there yet. When do I think that would occur? You know, it's very difficult to
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predict, Brett, but if everything falls into the right place and we get this under control,
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it is conceivable that you might be able to pull back a bit on some of the public health measures
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as we get into the late fall of this year. But there's no guarantee of that because if we don't get
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the overwhelming majority of the population vaccinated, there's still going to be a
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considerable amount of virus in the community. And as long as that's the case, Brett, people are
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going to have to wear masks. Dr. Fauci in March of 2020. Masks are very stupid. No one should wear
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them. They give you a false sense of security. Do not wear the masks. There is no reason now to be
00:44:10.740
wearing the masks. 15 days to slow the spread. It'll all be fine. 360 days later, you have to
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wear the masks at least for another year. And there's no guarantee you'll probably have to wear
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it until the end of your life. It's the science. It's the data. It's common sense. I'm not going to
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wear the mask. There are certain instances in which I have to wear the mask. For instance, when I get on an
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airplane, you cannot get on an airplane unless you wear the mask. I am making a prudential calculation
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that it's better for me to get on the airplane, to go do a political event, to go talk about how
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none of us should listen to Fauci anymore. I think that that is more valuable than taking the stand
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to not wear the masks on the airplane. So I'm making that prudential calculation. But generally
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speaking, I don't wear the masks. I never wear the masks. I'm aware that I could get the virus.
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I take a lot of risks in my life. I don't think I'm totally never going to face any consequences
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from anything. I also think I could walk outside and get struck by a baby grand piano falling from
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the roof somewhere. So I recognize there are many, many risks I take. However, I think given what we
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know about the mortality rate from this virus, upper 90s, some say over 99 percent. We've heard 97 percent.
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We've heard over 99 percent from various studies. I'm willing to take my chances. We just got a very
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encouraging story out of France. The oldest woman in Europe, the oldest living woman in Europe.
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Her name is Sister Andrée. She is a French nun. She is 116 years old. She's turning 117 tomorrow.
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She has just beaten COVID. She had COVID at age 116. She is living
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at the Sainte-Catherine-Laboré retirement home in Toulon in southern France. She had it. She beat it.
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I wonder if she wears a mask. The mask has become a sort of secular mantilla. You know, it's like the,
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it's a, it's a religious veil for the religion of liberalism. I think Sister Andrée wears an actual
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veil, like for a, for true religion, you know. Great on her. What a wonderful story. Does this mean
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that nobody can get the virus? No. Does this mean no one can die from the virus? No.
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But these stories do give you another perspective. And actually, Sister Andrée,
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forget about beating the virus. I mean, that's wonderful. It is the case that you rarely meet
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an unhealthy 116-year-old. If you make it that far, you've probably got pretty good genes. You're
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probably pretty healthy. Or it could be a miracle. And if anyone's going to have a, you know,
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access to miracles. If anyone's going to know a thing or two about miracles, it would be a nun.
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But even more inspiring is her take on the whole situation, which I think all of us who are masking
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and cowering at home and refusing to live our lives and canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas and not
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seeing our loved ones, we could learn a thing or two. She said, when she got the virus, she said,
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no, I wasn't scared because I wasn't scared to die. I'm happy to be with you, but I would wish to be
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somewhere else. Join my big brother and my grandfather and my grandmother. She actually
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said a couple of years ago when she turned 115, she said, I hope the good Lord takes me this year.
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She wouldn't kill herself, obviously. That would be a sin. But she said, I've done life and I don't
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think this is the end. I don't think we're just going to take a dirt nap and turn to worm food.
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I think there is something beyond. I think there's a wonderful eternal reward awaiting the faithful.
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And I want to go to that. William F. Buckley Jr. said this at the end of his life.
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He said, he was asked, I think it was by Charlie Rose or somebody. He said,
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I'm done. I'm tired of life. I wouldn't off myself because it would cause great pain to my
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friends and family. But I'm tired of it. I think there's something else. And I think there is
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something else. But we appear to be stuck in a rut politically. We're obviously stuck in a rut
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because all we're talking about is Donald Trump. I was told, I was reliably informed Donald Trump is
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no longer the president. So why are we trying him for impeachment? Why is he the only person we're
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talking about? Why is the media still so focused on him? We can't move past it. It's like Groundhog Day.
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We're just stuck and stuck and stuck. Why are we stuck in these COVID lockdowns?
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We slowed the spread. We flattened the curve. We found a cure. Why, why are we never,
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and why are we being told this is going to go on for another year, more than a year? Who knows?
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Why are we stuck in this rut spiritually? I think, you know, religion comes down to cultural
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questions. Culture comes down to religious questions at the base. Why are we stuck here?
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Because I think a lot of people think this is all there is. And when you have that misordered
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understanding, that fundamentally flawed vision of the world, then there's really nowhere,
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if you feel there's nowhere for your soul to go, there's nowhere for you to go, right? There's
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nowhere for your society to go. There's nowhere for your politics to go. There's no clear aim. There
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doesn't seem to be any real purpose. So you get just a bunch of farce. You get a bunch of silly
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fake Republicans doing things they shouldn't be doing. You get a silly frivolous society doing
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things it shouldn't be doing. Got to reorder our priorities. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the
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