The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 697 - The Fake Impeachment Trial

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00:00:37.740 In Texas this week, a civil forfeiture hearing took a wrong turn when the county attorney, Rod Ponton,

00:00:45.540 accidentally left a cat filter on his Zoom.

00:00:49.700 So all of the parties privy to this forfeiture hearing zoomed into the call,

00:00:55.980 and you see a judge and you see people wearing suits.

00:00:58.500 And then there's this one county attorney who would appear to be a big, fluffy cat.

00:01:03.900 And the older gentlemen who were on this call tried to figure out how to proceed with the hearing

00:01:09.500 despite the presence of the giant cat.

00:01:12.840 I believe you have a filter turned on in the video settings.

00:01:17.900 Can you hear me, Judge?

00:01:25.620 I can hear you.

00:01:26.700 I think it's a filter.

00:01:28.420 It is, and I don't know how to remove it.

00:01:31.460 I've got my assistant here.

00:01:32.580 She's trying to, but I'm prepared to go forward with it.

00:01:38.700 I'm here live.

00:01:39.840 I'm not a cat.

00:01:41.120 I can, I can see that.

00:01:47.060 I, I believe you, Mr. Attorney, that you are not a cat.

00:01:51.120 Though that is certainly the sort of thing a cat would say if you were trying to crash a civil forfeiture hearing.

00:01:56.160 The thing about that legal hearing is that it was still much more serious and productive

00:02:03.120 than the fake impeachment trial that's going on in Washington, D.C. right now.

00:02:06.980 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:02:08.020 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:17.180 Welcome back to the show.

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00:04:04.780 Six Republican senators.

00:04:08.020 Six Republican senators voted with the Democrats to continue this farce,

00:04:14.540 this fake impeachment trial of the ex-president in Washington, D.C.

00:04:21.200 You had, generally speaking, all the Republicans were against it because it's a sham and it's

00:04:25.180 unconstitutional.

00:04:26.460 Generally speaking, you had all the Democrats for it because it's a sham and it's unconstitutional,

00:04:31.620 which Democrats tend to enjoy. 0.99

00:04:32.940 And then you had these six squish, useless Republicans. 0.98

00:04:38.420 Their names are Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, 0.97

00:04:45.280 Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska, and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania. 1.00

00:04:50.500 These people are losers. 1.00

00:04:55.660 I don't, I don't know how else to put it. 0.99

00:04:57.420 You know, I try not to use that kind of blunt language all the time.

00:05:01.800 I'm not, I don't, I don't usually do my impression of Don Rickles or Donald Trump for that matter,

00:05:06.180 but there's no other way to put it. 1.00

00:05:07.840 These guys are just losers. 1.00

00:05:09.700 They may be illiterate. 1.00

00:05:10.980 I'm not sure.

00:05:12.080 I thought Mitt Romney was an intelligent guy.

00:05:14.620 He founded Bain Capital.

00:05:15.840 That's pretty impressive.

00:05:17.580 Ben Sasse, I think has a PhD, but it would appear that they can't read.

00:05:24.560 They certainly can't read the plain text of the constitution, which makes it very clear.

00:05:30.360 Even if you had no other historical or political sense or, or knowledge, surely you could read

00:05:38.560 the constitution, which shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that this proceeding is preposterous.

00:05:44.100 Let's get into the constitution.

00:05:45.440 We've alluded to it many times as we've been talking about this sham impeachment hearing,

00:05:50.520 but let's just get to the plain text.

00:05:52.440 Where does impeachment come from?

00:05:55.060 The kind of impeachment we're talking of the president of the United States comes from two

00:05:58.560 sections of the constitution.

00:05:59.600 Article two, section four reads, the president, vice president, and all civil officers of the

00:06:06.940 United States shall be removed from office on impeachment for and conviction of treason,

00:06:14.220 bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

00:06:17.440 Donald Trump is on trial right now, sort of, in DC.

00:06:24.280 Donald Trump is neither the president, nor the vice president, nor any civil officer of the United

00:06:31.580 States. As such, he cannot be removed from office.

00:06:37.760 Notice, I don't even need to get into how preposterous it is that they are, what are they

00:06:42.100 accusing him of? Treason? What's the argument? They don't have any argument.

00:06:47.620 Bribery? No. They sort of tried that one. That didn't quite work.

00:06:51.480 High crimes and misdemeanors. What's the crime? What's the, I'm not even getting into that.

00:06:54.500 I'm just saying as a purely technical matter, the guy doesn't meet the criteria. But then it's even

00:06:58.800 clearer when you get into article one, section three, which reads, the Senate shall have the

00:07:03.840 sole power to try all impeachments. Okay. We've, that, that's working out, right? Because the

00:07:09.060 Senate is holding whatever this trial is. Goes on though. When sitting for that purpose,

00:07:15.640 they, the Senate shall be on oath or affirmation. When the president of the United States is tried,

00:07:23.360 the chief justice shall preside. And no, actually I want to pause right there just to underscore the

00:07:29.860 point. The president of the United States is not being tried. So therefore this is not a

00:07:35.500 constitutional impeachment trial. Furthermore, the chief justice of the Supreme Court is not

00:07:41.460 presiding. Some random Democrat Senator is presiding. Therefore, this does not meet the

00:07:47.360 constitutional criteria of an impeachment trial. The article goes on. No person shall be convicted

00:07:53.420 without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present. Judgment in cases of impeachment

00:07:58.300 shall not extend further than to, this is very important, shall not extend further than to removal from

00:08:06.120 office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United

00:08:13.260 States. Goes on. So there, there can't be some additional consequences, but, but beyond that,

00:08:23.360 the only consequence that you can have for this trial is removal from office and, not removal from

00:08:29.460 office or removal from office and the prohibition that you, you can't run for office again. The one

00:08:35.500 tangible thing that the Democrats think they can try to get here is they can prevent Trump from

00:08:39.760 running for president again, because they're so confident that he did poorly in 2020, right? That's

00:08:45.100 why, that's why they're holding this unprecedented sham impeachment trial, right? It's because they're

00:08:48.920 so confident that they're so much more popular. Joe Biden, most popular guy ever elected, right?

00:08:53.560 Probably not. Their actions would, would seem to undermine that contention. But furthermore,

00:08:58.320 there cannot be that consequence here because the consequence of impeachment is removal from office

00:09:06.960 and the prohibition from running again. They can't remove him from office. They can't remove him from

00:09:12.720 office because he's not in office. They can't do any of those things because he's not the president.

00:09:18.940 That's why they can't hold a legitimate impeachment trial. And these people, these six Republican losers, 0.98

00:09:26.640 I've, I've just had it with them. I, I always try to say, well, you know, Susan Collins, she's in a tight 0.97

00:09:32.120 spot. Uh, Murkowski, oh, Romney did this one like sort of semi-okay thing maybe once. I don't know. He's a good

00:09:37.780 family man. That's what you always say about politicians that you can't say anything nice about. You say he's a

00:09:42.260 good family man. Ben Sasse, I say, I don't know, I guess he's sort of, he says conservative things

00:09:45.960 sometimes, but then he doesn't act in a conservative manner. But I'm at my wit's end. If the, if these

00:09:52.340 guys can't read the text of the constitution, stand up for something that actually matters, then, then

00:09:57.220 what's, what's the point of them? They, I guess, I guess the point of them is this category that we've

00:10:06.960 been talking about on the show a lot, which is they are court jester conservatives. They exist to do a

00:10:14.080 little soft shoe, do a little dance, kind of pretend to say some conservative things, and then

00:10:18.020 ultimately to legitimize the liberal regime. Their job is ultimately to lose. I was thinking, you know,

00:10:25.620 forget the guys can't read the constitution. Even if they could read the constitution, they clearly

00:10:30.620 don't understand politics. Democrats would never do this sort of thing because it's politically

00:10:35.740 masochistic. It's not based on any principle. It's just, it's just so, so wrong. So I thought,

00:10:42.380 these guys just don't understand the politics. Then I thought, you know, maybe they do understand

00:10:46.980 the politics. Maybe they do understand the politics and they're just not on our side.

00:10:55.560 That's even worse, isn't it? Either way, this, this really should be the end of their political

00:10:59.980 careers. I guess it probably won't be, but it certainly should be. You know, sometimes politics

00:11:05.500 is relatively friendly, relatively, that's the key word here is relatively. Sometimes it's truly

00:11:10.920 vicious. We're much closer to the latter end of things at the moment. Anderson Cooper summed this

00:11:19.220 up on CNN. When Anderson Cooper was talking about, you know, unity and healing and how we need to be

00:11:24.160 inclusive and tolerant and everything, we can't otherize people. As he compares basically every

00:11:32.880 Republican to the worst sort of killers, genocidal maniacs, most vicious people in the history of the 0.99

00:11:41.660 world. You know, part of it, I think just based on what you were just saying, it comes to mind, 0.93

00:11:46.620 the idea of otherizing people is something I think we saw a lot of over the last four years. I mean,

00:11:50.580 something we've seen a lot over the last decades, but it's so easy to otherize people, to make people

00:11:55.340 other than, other than American, other than patriotic, other than, than human, you know,

00:11:59.660 and we've seen it in Bosnia. We've seen it in Rwanda where radio was telling people that, you

00:12:04.260 know, Hutus were telling the radio listeners that Tutsi were cockroaches for, you know, 0.96

00:12:08.700 getting them ginned up for genocide. Um, and you see it in, in these videos where people who claim 0.92

00:12:15.220 they are patriots are in the face of a police officer calling him, uh, you know, as we're seeing

00:12:19.760 it right there. Yeah. Gosh, could you imagine if the left ever said anything mean to or about the

00:12:25.100 police, you know, like all of 2020? No, but that forget about that. We were just talking about

00:12:31.600 the Republicans for a moment here, because you see, we don't want to other eyes. We don't want

00:12:37.460 to other, the Republicans are other rising people. You know, those awful, vicious, deplorable, 0.98

00:12:42.060 irredeemable Republicans, those neo-Nazi there, they are other rising people. You know, those 0.99

00:12:48.520 Republicans who are, who are just like the genocidal regime in Rwanda, you know, them, those people,

00:12:54.760 they have nothing redeeming about them and we need to ostracize them from the country. 0.99

00:12:58.380 They're so evil and terrible. They're other rising people, you see, and it's very bad to 1.00

00:13:04.240 otherize people. Why? If you otherize people, you'd be like those Republican cockroaches who

00:13:09.140 need to be rooted out, pull them out of the country. Darn it. Does Anderson Cooper not know 1.00

00:13:15.460 what he's saying? He probably knows what he's saying. He probably knows how ironic what he's

00:13:20.160 saying is, but he doesn't care. He's just, he is other rising people, right? He's projecting

00:13:23.300 in the way the left always projects. And these snakes, these snake Republicans want to join.

00:13:30.100 I'm talking about the real snake Republicans. I'm other rising Mitt Romney and company.

00:13:34.200 They're joining in an unconstitutional, unconstitutional proceeding aimed at not

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00:14:57.900 how did you hear about us box so that they know that we sent you. While the Democratic Party is

00:15:04.660 comparing most Republicans, virtually all Republicans to a genocidal dictators, to neo-Nazis, to all sorts

00:15:16.140 of terrible things. These six Republicans, the sort of Mitt Romney, Ben Sasse types, these guys,

00:15:23.060 Murkowski, Collins, they're joining with the Democrats. We should strongly consider kicking

00:15:30.840 them out of the Republican Party. This is a different matter than Liz Cheney. I want to be

00:15:36.780 very specific here. Liz Cheney did something that I think was extremely stupid and I disagree with. 1.00

00:15:44.120 And I wish that the Republican Party did not include, you know, these sorts of ideas. I wish 0.99

00:15:49.620 Liz Cheney would come over to the conservative way of thinking. But what Liz Cheney did was justifiable. 1.00

00:15:56.840 Liz Cheney, a member of the House, Republican leadership too, but a member of the House, 0.87

00:16:01.880 voted to impeach the then sitting duly elected President Donald Trump. Even though he was a

00:16:08.400 member of her own party, even though there was no good argument for impeachment, she voted her

00:16:12.800 conscience. Her conscience might be faulty, but she voted her conscience. That was a legitimate vote.

00:16:18.560 The vote that the House took before Trump left office was arguably a legitimate impeachment vote.

00:16:28.160 So I don't think Liz Cheney should be kicked out of the Republican Party. She probably should be 1.00

00:16:31.840 removed from leadership because she doesn't represent, I think, most Republicans, certainly

00:16:35.360 not the base. But she shouldn't be kicked out of the party. What these senators are doing, 0.79

00:16:41.780 Sasse, Romney, Murkowski, all of them, they're doing something very different. They are engaging in

00:16:48.480 an anti-constitutional charade that is upending American political norms, that is illegal,

00:16:55.800 that is vicious, that is politically deaf, and that is constitutionally illiterate. 0.88

00:17:03.380 They should not remain in the Republican Party. There's a reason that these people are getting

00:17:08.840 censure votes. It's not just because the kooky, crazy base doesn't understand the brilliant

00:17:14.240 moderation and Madisonian temperament of these people. It's because they're wrong. They've

00:17:20.020 betrayed their party. They've betrayed the constitution, and they're just bad politicians,

00:17:26.140 and they're losers, and I don't see what benefit they bring to the party or to the country.

00:17:32.380 I think I've made my position on these people clear, clear enough. These guys, these snakes in the 0.99

00:17:37.960 grass are towing the White House line on impeachment. Frankly, they're going further than the White 0.95

00:17:44.080 House. Jen Psaki is asked, our favorite press secretary right now, because she's the only press 0.98

00:17:51.440 secretary, Jen Psaki is asked about the White House's opinion on the quote unquote impeachment

00:17:57.960 trial. She won't even go out on a limb and say, oh, it's definitely constitutional or it's this or 0.96

00:18:02.240 it's that. She's being actually fairly circumspect in her answers. The quote unquote Republican

00:18:07.800 senators, six of them, are much further to the left on this question, even than the White House.

00:18:13.280 Listen to her answer on the constitutionality of the trial.

00:18:16.500 Does he see it as constitutional?

00:18:18.360 I don't think that's for me or us to opine on. Obviously, he said that the process should proceed,

00:18:23.860 and it's doing exactly that.

00:18:26.340 It's not for us to opine on. Of course, it is for you to opine on. You are one of

00:18:32.220 the three branches of government, and impeachment directly involves the White House, right? Who

00:18:36.680 gets tried? During normal impeachment trials, the president gets tried. We're in this kind of weird

00:18:41.120 world, this bizarro world, where a private citizen is being tried at a Senate impeachment trial.

00:18:46.120 But ordinarily, this would involve the White House. So surely you have a reason to opine on it.

00:18:51.380 The reason she doesn't want to opine is because this is constitutionally absurd.

00:18:56.040 And the logical next step is going to be whenever the Republicans have the House,

00:18:59.920 maybe they don't even need to have the Senate, but especially if they did have the Senate, 0.88

00:19:03.740 what would be the logical next step is to just impeach some ex-Democrat president.

00:19:11.320 Barack Obama did many, many dodgier things than Donald Trump. Barack Obama committed what I think

00:19:18.280 are actual impeachable offenses. So we'd have to get a little more in the, in the detail on what

00:19:25.240 happened during the 2016 election when Barack Obama's administration spied on his political

00:19:31.120 rival, Donald Trump. Seems, seems wrong to me. Seems like an abuse of power to me. Seems criminal

00:19:37.700 to me. Or when Barack Obama used his IRS to target his political opponents. Seems criminal to me.

00:19:45.340 Or when, or when, or when. Many such examples. So good. I can't wait. I can't wait till Republicans

00:19:52.020 get the House and we can impeach Barack Obama. Well, no, Michael, you understand. Trump was

00:19:57.980 impeached by the House when he was still in office, but he's being tried after he left office. Okay.

00:20:03.800 Well, that's a subtle distinction. That's not going to matter in the future because it's

00:20:06.700 completely disingenuous, but fine. Okay. We'll wait until we can impeach the Democrat president

00:20:11.160 while he's sitting and then we'll try him after he's left office. Fine. Fine. Obviously the White 1.00

00:20:15.260 House doesn't want this sort of thing. They don't want Joe Biden to be tried however many years from

00:20:18.920 now. So Jen Psaki is not going to give a direct answer. She's just going to speak in broad tones 0.79

00:20:23.040 because they like the fact of the impeachment trial, but they don't want to go on the record

00:20:26.060 saying they support it. So what do they talk about? They go back to sort of platitudes about

00:20:30.920 incendiary rhetoric. As millions of people tune in to watch this trial, presumably throughout the

00:20:37.300 week, they're going to see the former president's lawyers argue based on the briefs that they have

00:20:43.040 filed that some Democrats have used incendiary rhetoric. They are going to point to

00:20:47.460 Representative Maxine Waters, for example, who in 2018 called on supporters at a rally to confront 0.74

00:20:52.940 and at one point harass Trump officials over their support of the child separation policy,

00:20:58.640 the zero tolerance policy. That's something that Cedric Richmond said she had a constitutional right 1.00

00:21:04.360 to express those views. So how does the White House view that as any different?

00:21:10.100 Look, the president is Joe Biden is the president. He's not a pundit. He's not going to opine on

00:21:15.320 the back and forth arguments, nor is he watching them that are taking place in the Senate.

00:21:20.920 So that was a very good question from the reporter, actually. Occasionally, you get a good question

00:21:26.020 in these White House briefings. And Jen Psaki obviously has no answer, has no answer, because 0.99

00:21:30.680 this is the political aspect that drives me crazy about these snake in the grass,

00:21:35.440 fake Republicans at the fake impeachment trial. At least I'll say nominal Republicans. They are

00:21:40.460 registered Republicans. They're members of the party for now. They seem very eager to attack the

00:21:47.860 president for actually calling for peaceful political demonstrations, but then one of them

00:21:54.460 turned violent for a few hours. They don't seem particularly interested in holding Democratic

00:22:00.480 politicians' feet to the fire when they actually called for violent, political violence against

00:22:06.380 Republicans. Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, Kamala Harris, not only supporting the 0.53

00:22:12.880 violence, but actually bailing the violent rioters out of prison, out of jail, rather.

00:22:18.460 These Republicans are basically nowhere to be found. Mitt Romney marched with BLM, right? 0.74

00:22:23.960 BLM spends much of 2020 burning the country to the ground, ripping down our statues, setting businesses 1.00

00:22:30.700 on fire, setting government buildings on fire. And there's Mitt Romney, principled Mitt Romney,

00:22:34.480 marching with them. An explicitly Marxist organization, the founders of it, saying we

00:22:41.260 are Marxists. Recently, Patrice Cullors, who is one of the founders of BLM, came out. She said,

00:22:45.860 look, there's been a lot of misinformation. People are saying I'm a Marxist. Well, I am.

00:22:49.700 She actually did a video saying like, yeah, I am. You got me. An organization that says they exist to

00:22:55.580 undermine the Western prescribed nuclear family. They finally nuked that from their About Us page,

00:22:59.580 but it was up for a very, very long time. You can still find it in the internet archives.

00:23:04.480 Mitt Romney marches with them, but he's got to stand on principle because Trump said that there

00:23:10.820 might've been election irregularities. He, and in front, you know what? I'm, I'm even willing to

00:23:16.020 grant maybe his rhetoric was a little bit Trumpian, you know, it was a little hyperbolic perhaps,

00:23:21.700 but he was calling attention to something. There were many, many, many irregularities. In some cases

00:23:27.420 in the election, there was an outright violation of the state constitution in the way the election was

00:23:33.680 held. So I'm not, I'm not even defending the Trump rhetoric. All I'm pointing out is the rank hypocrisy

00:23:43.160 from these so-called principled conservatives who give the left a pass for doing much, much, much worse 0.57

00:23:49.500 sort of stuff and take every opportunity to jump at the Republicans. There's a lot of,

00:23:59.760 a lot of hypocrisy here. You know, the New York times, I'll bring it back to the New York times.

00:24:04.560 New York times recently fired one of their writers. I think he was a science writer because

00:24:09.300 years ago he said the N word, you know, the, I'm not, if I say the N word right now, even in,

00:24:14.760 just to give you context for it, I'll probably be sent to the gulag. So I want, I'm just saying the

00:24:18.840 N word, right? He said the N word, but he actually said the word just in context to say, well,

00:24:22.620 if you say this word, what does that mean? He was fired for saying that in a private conversation

00:24:26.880 years ago, New York times says we have a zero tolerance policy on the N word.

00:24:31.540 Never going to say this, the executive editor, Dean Beckett, managing editor, Joe Kahn. But it

00:24:36.820 turns out, uh, Nicole, I'm sorry, Hannah Nicole Jones, who's the head of the anti-American 1619 0.73

00:24:44.160 project. She has said the N word publicly. Now we've been told the New York times says,

00:24:48.720 doesn't matter the context. If you ever utter the N word, let's say you're reading Huck Finn

00:24:52.600 out loud. If you ever say you can't work at the New York times, do you think they're going to fire

00:24:57.120 Hannah Nicole Jones? No, they have a, they have a sort of hierarchy and certain people get to say

00:25:01.880 certain things. Certain people don't. New York times, by the way, it's a sort of amusing, uh,

00:25:06.560 exercise. Just if you look up that word on the New York times archive, the New York times were using

00:25:10.960 that left and right until quite recently, actually. But now, now there's a special rule. The rule only

00:25:16.880 applies to some people though, of course, that's, that's how it works at the times and on the left

00:25:20.680 broadly. Matt Walsh is going to be getting more into this fake impeachment trial. He's going to be

00:25:26.600 getting into the left wing conspiracy theorists who are, I kid you not, I did see this. I'm

00:25:32.060 interested to hear Matt's take on it because I only saw the headlines. They're trying to make the

00:25:35.840 cracker barrel logo into a racist dog whistle. Cracker barrel, you know, like that great down

00:25:43.040 home country store and restaurant. Yeah. They're trying to make that into a, uh, there's a secret

00:25:47.240 subliminal racist dog whistle. You know, the left seems to be the only people who hear these dog

00:25:53.740 whistles. So does, doesn't that mean therefore that the left are, I don't, doesn't make them cats.

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00:27:01.020 Racial politics seeping into everything these days, creating lots of hypocrisy at the New York

00:27:08.320 Times, now possibly affecting Cracker Barrel, absolutely contrived non-traversy there. And of

00:27:15.040 course, affecting Aunt Jemima. Poor Aunt Jemima, pour one out, pour out some syrup for our dearly 1.00

00:27:22.660 departed Aunt Jemima, who you'll recall during the George Floyd riots, for some reason, everyone

00:27:28.320 decided that we could no longer tolerate a beloved syrup icon any longer. So Aunt Jemima got the boot. 1.00

00:27:36.400 You can no longer see her face. I didn't realize that they're getting rid of her face, her character.

00:27:40.680 They're, they're also getting rid of the name. So, and, and it actually, and it's very stupid and kind 0.99

00:27:45.460 of amusing how they did this, but it does have political implications. The Aunt Jemima pancake syrup 0.99

00:27:52.060 syrup is now called the Pearl Milling Company syrup. And there's no lady on it anywhere. There's no

00:27:59.460 person. It's just kind of a building. They call it Pearl Milling Company. And it's, it's lame. It's

00:28:07.440 like the, it's like the Mitt Romney of pancake syrups. Now, this is ironic, of course, because in the name of

00:28:14.980 racial justice, these white liberals, mostly white liberals have taken a job away from a black woman 1.00

00:28:22.080 named late to be the spokesman of, of Aunt Jemima. Now, of course, Aunt Jemima was a fictional

00:28:27.520 character, but Aunt Jemima was portrayed by a very famous model, Nancy Green, who she portrayed Aunt 0.99

00:28:36.000 Jemima at the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago. She was one of the first black corporate

00:28:41.980 models in the United States. Well, that's a great accomplishment, isn't it? Well, that accomplishment

00:28:46.640 is now being stripped from this black lady in the name of racial justice for black people. Now, 1.00

00:28:52.360 part of the reason for this is they say, sure, Nancy Green, good for her. She was the model, but 0.99

00:28:57.280 she was participating in a minstrel act. You'll see the character Aunt Jemima, she's not all well and good.

00:29:05.100 She's actually a sort of old stock character from those racist minstrel shows. And therefore, sure,

00:29:11.140 you know, she had this accomplishment, but we got to wipe it away because minstrelsy is racist.

00:29:17.160 Now, the further irony that a lot of people don't know here is that the, the minstrel character,

00:29:23.060 Aunt Jemima, was created by Billy Kersanz, a black guy, a black comedian who participated in the

00:29:31.760 minstrel shows in the 1870s, very, very well-known black comedian. He created the character, old Aunt

00:29:39.180 Jemima. So in the name of woke racial equality, pro black, I don't know, you're taking away a

00:29:51.260 beloved black character portrayed by a famous black woman invented by a famous and beloved black man

00:30:00.920 so that you can replace all of that with a building in the Pearl Milling Company.

00:30:09.080 The, the political aspect to this, well, first of all, there's just a general political aspect in

00:30:14.940 that they're, they're pushing for racial equality, but they're undermining various racial accomplishments.

00:30:19.340 But the, the other political aspect is, I think undergirding a lot of this is the

00:30:25.580 belief that particularity is wrong. Particularity is wrong, sort of abstraction, generalization is

00:30:35.980 good. Because when you get into details, when you get into particularity, things get a little weird,

00:30:42.260 things get a little more complicated. You especially see this with our history. So for the left, they say,

00:30:46.940 yeah, all the old people that founded America and developed the country, bad. Because, you know, 1.00

00:30:51.800 America was racist. I guess that's the go-to term. It's just now a synonym for bad. Everything is

00:30:57.100 racist now, right? You know, Cracker Barrel's racist for some reason. Cracker Barrel, and the

00:31:01.180 term could be racist against white people, right? Because cracker is a derogatory term for whites,

00:31:05.100 but it's not just, it just refers to a barrel that crackers were put in. But everything now is,

00:31:09.500 is called racist if you want to get rid of it. So you say, okay, all those old people in the past, 0.91

00:31:13.380 in the bad old timey days, they were really bad. We got to get rid of them. But then you get into the

00:31:16.240 specifics. You say, what about George Washington? Gosh, that guy seems pretty noble, honorable.

00:31:20.140 Well, Thomas Jefferson, a complex guy, you know, no question, had some faults, as do we all, but,

00:31:26.480 you know, also a very, very great man. All these sorts of people.

00:31:32.380 Billy Kersanz, the guy who invented Aunt Jemima. Gosh, how was he, he was participating in this

00:31:37.060 minstrelsy, which is bad, you know, by, it's one of the most prominent forms of American theater,

00:31:44.200 right? I mean, it's an actual American contribution to the theater. It's got all, it's very problematic,

00:31:48.280 as we say now, but it, you know, it did, did happen. It actually has a role in theater history

00:31:51.980 and had black performers and black writers involved in it. But we're not allowed to say

00:31:55.880 that anymore. We're not allowed to get into the specifics. You got to erase Billy Kersanz. You got

00:31:59.900 to erase Nancy Green. You got to erase Aunt Jemima just as surely as you've got to erase 0.71

00:32:04.360 George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln.

00:32:08.720 All for the abstraction. This kind of perfect world that doesn't in any way partake of,

00:32:16.780 of human nature. It's a big difference between the left and the right. You know, if you think

00:32:21.840 about what they did in the French Revolution, the French Revolution took away, they come in,

00:32:25.180 they take away all local affections. They take away all old neighborhoods, all old towns,

00:32:30.180 all old loyalties and, and rituals. And they replace them with just a perfectly geometric country.

00:32:37.040 They're just going to divide the country up in this perfect geometric way. They're going to redo

00:32:39.920 the whole calendar in this perfect geometric way. They're going to take away all religious 0.97

00:32:43.000 affections and make it, make them all about the abstractions to reason, something like that.

00:32:47.500 And what does that do? The theory is, the theory is once you take away details, local affections,

00:32:55.360 particularity, specificity, then people are going to transfer the loyalties they had to those sorts of

00:33:01.140 things to the broader kind of contrived national or international group. But that's just not what

00:33:08.660 happens. People don't, people don't have loyalty or affection to the United Nations, right? Nobody

00:33:14.680 goes out, waves the United Nations flag at a sports game or something. What you do, you undermine the

00:33:20.880 local affections, the local loyalties, the local feeling of duty, but you don't replace it with

00:33:27.380 anything. You just get people who are sort of uprooted, who just have no, who feel transigent,

00:33:33.920 who feel no bonds to anything. This actually ties into the Superbowl. It does in the same

00:33:41.400 political manner, you know. This Superbowl was the lowest watched Superbowl in over a decade.

00:33:49.440 It had fewer than a hundred million viewers, even though it was, the game itself, I guess,

00:33:53.840 was kind of boring. But, you know, Tom Brady gets his seventh ring. That's pretty impressive,

00:33:56.600 especially with the, with the new team. So CBS, Viacom are saying, yeah, it was fewer than a hundred

00:34:02.900 million viewers. So, you know, that's, that's no good. You got to figure out how to turn this

00:34:07.600 around. What's responsible for it? Partially it's the people are unplugging. You know, I, I don't pay

00:34:12.520 for cable. I, I don't think I've ever signed up to get cable, you know, in my entire adult life,

00:34:17.620 just stream things. And so part of it is the legacy media. They're losing a lot of ground.

00:34:22.120 Virtually no millennial that I know or Zoomer that I know has cable or pays for cable. 0.74

00:34:30.240 So part of it's the technological aspect. Part of it too, though, is as that goes away,

00:34:37.260 as, you know, the common TV, as the common slate of movies, as the, as that all goes away,

00:34:43.080 people are returning to affinity groups. You know, the, the odds that I would watch the Superbowl are

00:34:49.940 pretty low anyway. I'm just not, not the biggest football guy in the world, but maybe, you know,

00:34:53.820 in the old days when we were all watching the same things, maybe I'd go to a Superbowl party or

00:34:57.400 whatever. At least I get to gamble and smoke a cigar or something. But now I'm, I'm less interested in

00:35:01.560 that because just people are breaking up into different interest groups. The internet is helping

00:35:05.620 to do that, right? You can spend a lot of time in your own echo chamber. And we, we speak of this in

00:35:09.660 a bad way, but the good way is you get to spend a lot of time in your own interests, right? I'm not,

00:35:14.140 I'm not interested in most of what is on network television. So I just ignore it. I just don't watch it.

00:35:18.880 I'm not interested in most of what's on cable television either. So I'll go on the internet

00:35:21.660 and I'll get to watch exactly what I want. I get to read exactly what I want. That's sort of nice.

00:35:25.520 In a way, this is a return to normal, you know, in the mid 20th century, it's even a little earlier

00:35:31.500 than that. Mass media just took the whole nation's attention and drew it in on itself. And we talk about

00:35:38.540 those halcyon days when we could rely on objective journalists like, you know, Walter Cronkite or

00:35:43.620 something, but that was probably the single greatest tool of liberalism in America, right?

00:35:50.320 I mean, Walter Cronkite, Mr. Tell it like it is, Mr. Objective. The guy was a world federalist. The

00:35:55.500 guy was a radical left winger and he hit it sort of well, but then every so often he loses the Vietnam 0.94

00:36:01.260 War. You know, every so often it really comes out. In fact, much of what conservatives have tried to do

00:36:06.180 over the past 20, 30 years is try to break up that, that lock on our attention that, that the

00:36:12.300 liberal establishment had. Before you had this kind of mass media, especially television in the 20th

00:36:17.760 century, you had more local affinities. You know, there was, there was a much bigger difference

00:36:23.480 between, I don't know, Alabama and New York. Much, much greater difference. Now people lived, 0.92

00:36:30.260 what people were interested in, the way society was structured before you had television kind of

00:36:37.040 homogenize the whole culture. It's not, this isn't just happening in the United States. This

00:36:40.980 happened in Italy. The construction of a national culture there was brought about largely by

00:36:45.120 television. You, you see the, the loss of a lot of Italian dialects, specific customs when they got

00:36:51.680 more of a national identity. Now it seems after that homogenization, we're all kind of breaking up

00:36:56.020 again, but we're not breaking up down to little geographic areas. Alabama and New York are actually

00:37:00.620 pretty similar now. Most, when you go, I've traveled all over this country. I've traveled

00:37:04.660 to probably most of this country, you know, when you, when you think of major cities and states.

00:37:10.340 The country is a lot more similar than it is different. And I'm not sure that that was true

00:37:13.960 a hundred years ago. Now we're breaking up into affinity groups again, but they're virtual,

00:37:18.980 they're digital. You might have a handful of people who have a shared interest in New York,

00:37:24.780 Alabama, Alaska, and Timbuktu. And they're, they're sharing experience together. They're

00:37:32.560 sharing a way, a way to view the world, a sort of emotional process. They're sharing art,

00:37:37.920 they're sharing culture. They might be living next to people who have a completely different culture

00:37:42.320 and sharing it around the globalized world. That, that is going to happen and it's, it's going to

00:37:48.940 pose a serious problem for politics. You know, we, we've had various political orders and

00:37:54.740 in, in the world over, over the millennia. And, uh, just as the rise of sort of the peace of

00:38:01.340 Westphalia, the end of the religious wars, the creation of the nation state, uh, created a

00:38:05.860 certain world order, presumably this huge social upheaval that has occurred digitally and through

00:38:12.700 the internet, that is going to create some other kind of order. It's going to change the order a

00:38:16.020 little bit. Is it globalism or is it a focus on particularism? Right now you're seeing both

00:38:19.880 actually at the same time being pushed. And a lot of our political debates come down to that

00:38:24.160 sort of thing. You know, one affinity group that we're seeing is, uh, is among American

00:38:31.740 politically minded people, right? Everything has become politicized in the sense that everything

00:38:37.880 has taken on a partisan character. Uh, this is a large topic of, of my book that's coming out soon,

00:38:43.600 Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, which you can pre-order right now, wherever you order

00:38:47.360 your books. Uh, but, uh, it, it focuses in on the rise of political correctness from 1920 to 2020

00:38:54.040 because political correctness grew for a lot longer than a lot of people think it did. People

00:38:58.900 came up, became aware of it in the eighties and nineties really predates it. It was a very

00:39:03.640 intentional sort of strategy. And one of the aspects of this that occurred really in the seventies

00:39:09.060 through the radical feminists was to politicize everything that the personal had to become the 1.00

00:39:14.160 political, the most intimate sort of choices and interactions had to become political, political

00:39:19.080 choices. So now, you know, you can buy the conservative running shoes or the liberal running

00:39:23.140 shoes. You can buy the conservative coffee or the liberal coffee. This is true now of pillows.

00:39:28.460 So, you know, there's Mike Lindell who has advertised on this show before, uh, who makes a fabulous

00:39:35.420 product. My pillow is advertised on a lot of conservative networks. He has my pillow. Now David Hogg,

00:39:41.640 who became a sort of celebrity after the Parkland shooting. And he formed all these various groups

00:39:48.140 and stumped for a lot of candidates and, you know, made, made himself a sort of a sensation.

00:39:52.060 He's founding a rival pillow company. Now there's some question as to whether or not they're actually

00:39:56.640 going to do the pillow company because they say, well, yes, we're going to start this pillow company.

00:40:00.380 He's, he's teamed up with an internet troll whose name I think is William Legate or Legate. Um,

00:40:06.720 and, uh, so I don't know if it's real or if it's just kind of a publicity stunt that they were asking,

00:40:12.060 you know, basically how to do it. How do you make a pillow company? So I don't know that it's really

00:40:15.080 going to happen, but even the idea that this is a story shows you something about the state of our

00:40:19.960 culture. So you have my pillow on the right and some people are calling David Hogg's company

00:40:25.260 now pillow on the left. Uh, my, it's not a bad idea. You might have some copyright issues in China,

00:40:30.340 but China doesn't care about copyrights anyway. So, you know, go for it. Uh, how much further

00:40:36.280 does that go? Will this, will this affect every single product? Will the quality of the product

00:40:41.120 matter? You know, Mike Lindell, he's not paying me to say this right now, right? He didn't buy any

00:40:44.560 ads on the show today. The man makes a great pillow. Okay. Say what you will. You might hate his

00:40:48.900 politics. The man makes a magnificent pillow. Will, uh, Mr. Hogg make a good pillow? I don't know. Maybe

00:40:57.000 will it matter? I don't know. I don't know that it will, or will people's affinity for these political

00:41:02.360 issues overcome it? You know, and Mike Lindell, uh, you know, sort of, he's an eccentric character

00:41:10.900 in public life. He's always made himself out to be, he goes on the commercials, he goes on media a lot.

00:41:14.720 Uh, but when, when that coronavirus really kicked up earlier in 2020, Mike Lindell went in, he said,

00:41:21.380 I'm converting some factories from making sheets and pillowcases. I'm going to make masks. And I

00:41:26.920 have some of Mike Lindell's masks and they're excellent masks. They're the most breathable,

00:41:30.460 comfortable masks that I have. I don't even know if he sold them. I think he may, he may have just

00:41:33.620 donated them or something. Uh, that was a long time ago. That was back in March and April. In May

00:41:40.820 and June, we're told, okay, you know, the masks, you got to wear them, but it's only at 15 days to

00:41:44.780 slow the spread. Now we're coming up on a year of this. Presumably that we should be done with the

00:41:51.960 masks, right? The vaccine is out there. It's been going on a long time. I never wear the

00:41:56.840 mask and I've been fine all year. Knock on wood, you know, uh, we're now being told that the masks

00:42:03.160 are going to have to endure much, much longer. Dr. Fauci, the exalted Dr. Fauci, who famously told

00:42:12.100 us not to wear masks, that it's stupid to wear masks. There's no reason during an outbreak to 0.97

00:42:16.460 wear masks only gives you a false sense of security. Then he told us you have to wear the masks.

00:42:21.520 Then he didn't wear the masks himself. He wore them on camera, but then when he thought he was off

00:42:24.700 camera, he didn't wear them. Well, even when he was around people, even people, not in his household.

00:42:30.840 Then Dr. Fauci said, it's stupid to wear multiple masks. Then Dr. Fauci said, you have to wear 0.97

00:42:37.340 multiple masks. It's a very good idea to wear multiple masks, right? He said, there's no data.

00:42:42.400 There's no evidence to show that the multiple masks work. Then he said, well, it's common sense.

00:42:46.380 Then he goes back and forth and back and forth. Fauci now says, we're going to need to wear masks

00:42:51.100 until the end of this year. If we can get, and I have used this as an estimate. It's not definitive

00:42:57.140 that if we can get 70 to 85% of our population vaccinated and get to what we would hope would be

00:43:04.580 to a degree of herd immunity, which really is an umbrella or a veil of protection against the

00:43:11.760 community where the level of virus is so low, it's not a threat at all. Then at that point,

00:43:18.440 you could start thinking in terms of not having to have a uniform wearing of masks, but we're

00:43:23.340 certainly not near there yet. When do I think that would occur? You know, it's very difficult to

00:43:29.340 predict, Brett, but if everything falls into the right place and we get this under control,

00:43:34.080 it is conceivable that you might be able to pull back a bit on some of the public health measures

00:43:39.740 as we get into the late fall of this year. But there's no guarantee of that because if we don't get

00:43:45.800 the overwhelming majority of the population vaccinated, there's still going to be a

00:43:50.540 considerable amount of virus in the community. And as long as that's the case, Brett, people are

00:43:56.340 going to have to wear masks. Dr. Fauci in March of 2020. Masks are very stupid. No one should wear

00:44:03.640 them. They give you a false sense of security. Do not wear the masks. There is no reason now to be

00:44:10.740 wearing the masks. 15 days to slow the spread. It'll all be fine. 360 days later, you have to

00:44:19.440 wear the masks at least for another year. And there's no guarantee you'll probably have to wear

00:44:25.740 it until the end of your life. It's the science. It's the data. It's common sense. I'm not going to

00:44:33.980 wear the mask. There are certain instances in which I have to wear the mask. For instance, when I get on an

00:44:38.480 airplane, you cannot get on an airplane unless you wear the mask. I am making a prudential calculation

00:44:43.400 that it's better for me to get on the airplane, to go do a political event, to go talk about how

00:44:47.340 none of us should listen to Fauci anymore. I think that that is more valuable than taking the stand

00:44:53.360 to not wear the masks on the airplane. So I'm making that prudential calculation. But generally

00:44:56.480 speaking, I don't wear the masks. I never wear the masks. I'm aware that I could get the virus.

00:45:00.860 I take a lot of risks in my life. I don't think I'm totally never going to face any consequences

00:45:06.400 from anything. I also think I could walk outside and get struck by a baby grand piano falling from

00:45:12.480 the roof somewhere. So I recognize there are many, many risks I take. However, I think given what we

00:45:20.280 know about the mortality rate from this virus, upper 90s, some say over 99 percent. We've heard 97 percent. 0.78

00:45:29.960 We've heard over 99 percent from various studies. I'm willing to take my chances. We just got a very

00:45:35.720 encouraging story out of France. The oldest woman in Europe, the oldest living woman in Europe.

00:45:43.620 Her name is Sister Andrée. She is a French nun. She is 116 years old. She's turning 117 tomorrow.

00:45:55.720 She has just beaten COVID. She had COVID at age 116. She is living

00:46:05.280 at the Sainte-Catherine-Laboré retirement home in Toulon in southern France. She had it. She beat it.

00:46:15.780 I wonder if she wears a mask. The mask has become a sort of secular mantilla. You know, it's like the,

00:46:21.540 it's a, it's a religious veil for the religion of liberalism. I think Sister Andrée wears an actual

00:46:27.980 veil, like for a, for true religion, you know. Great on her. What a wonderful story. Does this mean

00:46:33.520 that nobody can get the virus? No. Does this mean no one can die from the virus? No.

00:46:38.200 But these stories do give you another perspective. And actually, Sister Andrée,

00:46:44.980 forget about beating the virus. I mean, that's wonderful. It is the case that you rarely meet

00:46:49.860 an unhealthy 116-year-old. If you make it that far, you've probably got pretty good genes. You're

00:46:54.800 probably pretty healthy. Or it could be a miracle. And if anyone's going to have a, you know,

00:46:58.840 access to miracles. If anyone's going to know a thing or two about miracles, it would be a nun. 0.95

00:47:05.060 But even more inspiring is her take on the whole situation, which I think all of us who are masking

00:47:11.220 and cowering at home and refusing to live our lives and canceling Thanksgiving and Christmas and not

00:47:15.560 seeing our loved ones, we could learn a thing or two. She said, when she got the virus, she said,

00:47:21.400 no, I wasn't scared because I wasn't scared to die. I'm happy to be with you, but I would wish to be

00:47:29.400 somewhere else. Join my big brother and my grandfather and my grandmother. She actually

00:47:35.800 said a couple of years ago when she turned 115, she said, I hope the good Lord takes me this year.

00:47:41.660 She wouldn't kill herself, obviously. That would be a sin. But she said, I've done life and I don't

00:47:48.960 think this is the end. I don't think we're just going to take a dirt nap and turn to worm food.

00:47:52.840 I think there is something beyond. I think there's a wonderful eternal reward awaiting the faithful.

00:47:58.080 And I want to go to that. William F. Buckley Jr. said this at the end of his life.

00:48:03.700 He said, he was asked, I think it was by Charlie Rose or somebody. He said,

00:48:06.620 I'm done. I'm tired of life. I wouldn't off myself because it would cause great pain to my

00:48:13.940 friends and family. But I'm tired of it. I think there's something else. And I think there is

00:48:20.460 something else. But we appear to be stuck in a rut politically. We're obviously stuck in a rut

00:48:27.620 because all we're talking about is Donald Trump. I was told, I was reliably informed Donald Trump is

00:48:31.980 no longer the president. So why are we trying him for impeachment? Why is he the only person we're

00:48:36.200 talking about? Why is the media still so focused on him? We can't move past it. It's like Groundhog Day.

00:48:42.480 We're just stuck and stuck and stuck. Why are we stuck in these COVID lockdowns?

00:48:47.780 We slowed the spread. We flattened the curve. We found a cure. Why, why are we never,

00:48:55.040 and why are we being told this is going to go on for another year, more than a year? Who knows?

00:49:00.180 Why are we stuck in this rut spiritually? I think, you know, religion comes down to cultural

00:49:05.980 questions. Culture comes down to religious questions at the base. Why are we stuck here?

00:49:12.480 Because I think a lot of people think this is all there is. And when you have that misordered

00:49:17.780 understanding, that fundamentally flawed vision of the world, then there's really nowhere,

00:49:23.980 if you feel there's nowhere for your soul to go, there's nowhere for you to go, right? There's

00:49:28.580 nowhere for your society to go. There's nowhere for your politics to go. There's no clear aim. There

00:49:33.220 doesn't seem to be any real purpose. So you get just a bunch of farce. You get a bunch of silly

00:49:41.100 fake Republicans doing things they shouldn't be doing. You get a silly frivolous society doing 1.00

00:49:46.780 things it shouldn't be doing. Got to reorder our priorities. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the 0.90

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The Michael Knowles Show - February 10, 2021

Ep. 697 - The Fake Impeachment Trial

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