The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 707 - Who Built The Cages, Joe?


Summary

As more and more foreign nationals pour across the southern border of the United States illegally, the Biden administration has to figure out what to do with the children who are coming into the U.S. illegally. And so, to deal with this situation, as the Washington Post tells us yesterday, the first migrant facility opens under Biden.


Transcript

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00:00:37.620 As more and more foreign nationals pour across the southern border of the United States illegally,
00:00:43.900 the Biden administration has to figure out what to do with the children who are coming
00:00:48.720 into the United States. And so, to deal with this situation, as the Washington Post tells us
00:00:54.900 yesterday, the first migrant facility for children opens under Biden. The first migrant facility,
00:01:03.220 that sounds sort of nice, doesn't it? It's a nice facility. Is it sort of like the Four Seasons?
00:01:08.120 Is it, oh no, it's a bunch of cages. It's the cages that Joe Biden said was a human rights abuse.
00:01:15.440 Those are now being reopened under Joe Biden, but it's perfectly fine. It's a Biden box.
00:01:20.880 It's, it's the, it's a special metallic hotel. Just don't call it a cage. I'm Michael Knowles.
00:01:26.600 This is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:34.880 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from Tim the Enchanter, who says,
00:01:39.380 let me get, let me get this straight. We must respect the dignity of boys who want to win by
00:01:44.900 pretending to be girls, but the dignity of the girls against whom they compete is not part of the
00:01:50.160 equation. That's right. That's right. Because the, the reason that we need to let boys into the
00:01:55.840 girls' room and let boys beat women at track meets and things like that is in the name of inclusion.
00:02:01.880 And so if you are being inclusive, if you are being tolerant, that means you got to bring everybody in.
00:02:09.040 And it also means that you can't be inclusive of people who are not inclusive. It means you can't
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00:03:58.720 for the trip down a dusty road to a former man camp for oil field workers here. The first migrant
00:04:04.740 child facility opened under the Biden administration. The facility is being reactivated to hold up to
00:04:14.080 700 children ages 13 through 17. I don't know much about this facility. Then a few paragraphs down,
00:04:21.940 but immigration lawyers and advocates question why the Biden administration would choose to reopen a
00:04:26.040 Trump era facility that was the source of protests and controversy. Oh, it's the cages.
00:04:31.960 It's the cages, right. But when it was Donald Trump opening these facilities and using these
00:04:38.760 facilities, it was truly people were calling it a crime against humanity. The Trump administration
00:04:44.220 said, what are we going to do with the kids? We don't know where else to put them. You're not
00:04:46.900 going to put them in jail. You're not going to put the, a lot of them are unaccompanied where you've
00:04:50.760 got to put them in a facility. You can't just let them go free into the country. Now Biden does it
00:04:55.120 perfectly fine. Nothing to see here. Democracy dies in darkness. Jen Psaki, our favorite current
00:05:01.320 White House press secretary was just asked about this. Didn't have a great answer.
00:05:05.540 Why is the Biden administration reopening a temporary facility for migrant children in Texas?
00:05:12.740 Well, um, first, uh, the policy of this administration, as you all know, but just for
00:05:17.460 others is not to expel unaccompanied children who arrive at the border. Uh, and the process,
00:05:23.540 how it works is that, uh, customs and border control, uh, uh, continue to transfer unaccompanied
00:05:29.580 children to the HHS office of refugee resettlement. That can take a couple of days. I just want to
00:05:34.280 give this context because people need to understand the process, but because of COVID-19 protocols,
00:05:39.420 uh, the like social distancing requirements, the capacity to existing office of refugee resettlement
00:05:45.800 shelters has been significantly reduced because of course you can't have a child in every bed.
00:05:50.560 Um, there needs to be spacing and we abide by those spacing to protect the kids, um, who are,
00:05:56.280 um, living in those facilities for a short period of time. And to ensure the health and safety of
00:06:01.400 these kids, HHS took steps to open an emergency facility to add capacity where these children can
00:06:07.620 be provided the care they need while they are safely, before they are safely placed with families
00:06:11.720 and sponsors. So it's a temporary reopening during COVID-19. Our intention is very much to close it.
00:06:17.940 Okay. I don't have any more time to keep listening to this long winded answer. Does
00:06:22.900 Jen Psaki ever intend to address the question? The question is, why are you putting kids in cages
00:06:29.020 after you campaigned against putting kids in cages? And she said, well, uh, because, uh, it's temporary
00:06:35.700 and, um, because the coronavirus and, uh, you know, the, man, I'm going to get, I'm going to get to it.
00:06:40.660 Uh, and the migrants and, you know, and, and it's, and did I mention COVID, but no, I'm going to get to
00:06:47.160 your question. So Peter Doocy to his credit, he, uh, says, lady, this ain't an answer. Come on. You
00:06:52.760 said, you said these were human rights abuses. How can you now with a straight face, put kids right
00:06:57.900 back in the exact same facilities that you called cages? It's the same facility that was open for a
00:07:03.720 month in the Trump administration, summer 2019. That is when Joe Biden said under Trump, there have
00:07:09.740 been horrifying scenes at the border of kids being kept in cages. And Kamala Harris said,
00:07:14.040 uh, basically babies in cages is a human rights abuse being committed by the United States
00:07:20.000 government. So how is this any different than that? We very much feel that way. Uh, and the,
00:07:24.440 these are facilities. Let me be, let me be clear here. One, there's a pandemic going on. I'm sure
00:07:29.660 you're not suggesting that we have children right next to each other, uh, in ways that are not COVID safe.
00:07:35.500 Huh? I, I look, okay. I grant, I grant that it is a human rights abuse. What we're doing right now.
00:07:42.620 Yeah. Kamala Harris is totally right. We very, oh yeah, we totally agree with Kamala Harris. Yeah.
00:07:46.380 What we're doing is a violation of human rights because we're putting babies in cages,
00:07:52.560 but what's the alternative? Expose them to a virus that they're statistically,
00:07:59.480 it's basically impossible for them to have any consequences from. Hold on. You're telling me,
00:08:06.280 you're telling me you would rather expose children to a cough than put babies in cages.
00:08:13.700 Are you a monster? Come on. We have to make hard choices. It's very clear that the,
00:08:19.880 there is a virus going on. Statistically, uh, no children have trouble with this virus. Uh, but
00:08:27.420 that means that we've got to put the kids in the cages. I don't think so.
00:08:31.700 Brings us back to a point that president Trump made during the campaign.
00:08:35.700 This is another one going to be memory hold. This is another one, put a little
00:08:39.060 bookmark before they take this one off of YouTube. Donald Trump, it was one of the most memorable
00:08:44.700 lines of an otherwise sort of awful debate. When Joe Biden was rambling on about the stupid
00:08:50.060 concept that you're putting kids in cages, Joe Biden attacks Trump for it. Donald Trump says,
00:08:57.840 who built the cages, Joe? They got separated from their parents and it makes us a laughingstock and
00:09:03.920 violates every notion of who we are as a nation. Let me ask you a follow up question.
00:09:08.960 They did it. We changed the policy. Your response to that?
00:09:12.340 We did not. They built the cages. Who built the cages, Joe? Let's talk about who built the cages.
00:09:18.680 Let's talk about what we're talking about. Who built the cages, Joe? You know, we were told that
00:09:23.040 Joe Biden was going to be a return to normalcy. And I guess it is because not only is Joe Biden
00:09:27.800 acting like an utter hypocrite here, right? He campaigns against kids in cages, which is not
00:09:34.260 exactly what it is, right? It's, I actually sort of agree with the Washington post today.
00:09:38.240 It is a temporary facility to put migrant children, but it was also a temporary facility
00:09:43.180 to put migrant children when Trump did it. But what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
00:09:49.040 So not only is, is Biden hypocritical now, but it was Obama and Biden who first started this policy.
00:09:55.860 As Donald Trump pointed out very well, AOC even is siding with the Republicans here
00:10:02.000 against the protestations of Jen Psaki, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris. She says, this is not okay.
00:10:07.720 Never has been okay. Never will be okay. No matter the administration or party.
00:10:13.000 So at least she's coming out. She sort of has to come out, right? If she doesn't come out and say
00:10:18.040 what the Biden administration is doing is wrong, then she's just a complete fraud. Now she's not
00:10:22.840 exactly going too hard here. What is it? One tweet about a Washington post article. She's not actually
00:10:28.840 going to hold members of her party to any account. So I think she is still sort of a fraud, but even she
00:10:33.360 has to come out and say, man, Biden, can't you make this a little easier for us to defend you?
00:10:38.900 Because your policy is the exact same thing as Donald Trump's. By the way, that is not the only
00:10:45.100 area where Democrats are doing exactly the same thing that they're accusing Republicans of. There
00:10:50.380 is a clip that was just unearthed from David Letterman's old late show where Joe Biden, many,
00:10:56.080 many years ago when he could still form a coherent English sentence, went on the show
00:11:00.100 and described, I kid you not. He described being arrested for breaking into the Capitol. Would
00:11:09.620 you call it a, I don't know, an insurrection? I don't know. But, but Joe Biden claims to have
00:11:16.640 been arrested for the exact same thing that the crazy guy with the face paint and the horns was
00:11:21.080 arrested for on January 6th. What was that like walking into the great Senate chamber at 29 years
00:11:27.460 old? You know, I walked in when I was 21 and I got arrested. I was, it was a Saturday. I was down
00:11:33.700 visiting some friends at Georgetown University. And I came up on a Saturday morning because I was
00:11:38.820 fascinated with the Senate. And then a Saturday session, I walked up those days, no guards stopping
00:11:43.320 everywhere. And I, and they just got out of session. I walked in the back. All of a sudden, I found
00:11:48.020 myself in the chamber and I was stunned. I walked up, sat down in the presiding officer's seat. Guy grabbed
00:11:53.240 me by the shoulder. Said you're under arrest. What a classic Joe Biden story. Did that actually
00:12:00.720 happen? Probably not. Like most Joe Biden stories, he is probably the most notorious liar in American
00:12:07.740 politics. That's why he had to drop out of the 1988 presidential election. But this is a, an
00:12:13.220 inconvenient, probable lie for Joe Biden because he's claiming to do exactly what we are now told was
00:12:20.540 the worst insurrection in American history and the most calamitous thing that's ever happened
00:12:27.000 in our country. Joe Biden is saying, yo, I did that when I was 21. Yeah, I got arrested for it too.
00:12:31.580 But now I'm old smiling Joe. Now I'm a Senator. Even, you know, AOC is not the only member of her
00:12:40.340 party who is breaking with rank on this issue of the migrant children and Joe Biden being a total
00:12:46.160 hypocrite. Naomi Wolf, one of the most famous feminists in the entire country, just recently
00:12:51.440 went on Tucker Carlson's show also to break with her fellow travelers, not on the issue of the
00:12:57.560 lockdown or not on the issue rather of the, the migrant facilities, but on the issue of these
00:13:01.560 lockdowns, this much, much broader issue going on around the country. And I think you're going to see
00:13:06.420 this more and more. You're going to see people who other call them feminists. Maybe they're
00:13:12.000 members of some other activist group on the left, Democrats who say, hold on, we can't
00:13:17.280 continue to do this forever. We've been slowing the spread for a very long time now. Now,
00:13:24.280 are these sort of breakaways enough to take away Joe Biden's power? I don't think so. I think it's
00:13:30.260 going to be all sort of soft pushback, the sort of thing where AOC sends a tweet about a Washington
00:13:35.960 Post article that she doesn't like, but you, you will start to see that build and that could have an
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00:15:10.540 Tucker's show and says enough is enough with the lockdowns. Autocratic tyrants at the state and now
00:15:17.360 then the national level are, are creating a kind of merger of corporate power and government power,
00:15:25.220 which is really characteristic of Italian fascism in the twenties. Um, and they're,
00:15:29.560 they're using that to engage in kind of emergency orders that, that simply strip us of our rights,
00:15:36.580 rights to property, rights to assembly, rights to worship, and all of the rights that our
00:15:40.840 constitution guarantees. So people are definitely horrified and noticing. I think people are
00:15:45.820 shocked and, um, and, and divided, as I mentioned before. And the other thing that happened is you
00:15:51.440 said this has all been very sudden. Um, and when you look back, you know, March of 2020,
00:15:57.020 a lot of things started to move that kind of locked into place, a set of policies that are kind of
00:16:02.060 360 degree full on totalitarian policies. So I think a lot of us are kind of in culture shock.
00:16:07.840 Uh, luckily or unluckily, I've been studying closing democracies for 12 years. So I recognized early on,
00:16:15.300 you know, once, once I realized New York state had emergency powers, I know from history that no one
00:16:21.120 gives up emergency powers willingly. Now I have a sort of grudging respect for Naomi Wolf and not
00:16:28.220 just because she went on Tucker's show and said she doesn't like Dr. Fauci or something. I've actually
00:16:33.180 thought this for a while because I disagree with most of what Naomi Wolf thinks. I think most
00:16:37.260 conservatives would, but the thing I always liked about her is at least she's following the arguments
00:16:43.880 honestly by the lights that she's got. So for instance, this quote got her into a lot of trouble on
00:16:50.060 the left on the issue of abortion. She's pro-abortion, but she also admits that it's murder.
00:16:56.600 Pretty, pretty ghastly stuff. But I actually have greater respect for someone who can say,
00:17:03.800 yeah, I support abortion, but I'm not going to use mealy mouth words like reproductive rights or
00:17:10.120 women's health or, you know, any, anything else. I'm going to deal with the fact that, yeah, this is a,
00:17:14.620 a grave moral issue. And I just think that women's convenience needs to trump the life of
00:17:21.520 the unborn child. She said, quote, abortion should be legal. It is sometimes even necessary.
00:17:27.460 Don't agree with either of those things, obviously. Sometimes the mother must be able
00:17:31.560 to decide that the fetus in its full humanity must die. The people who got angry at her for that quote
00:17:40.360 were not conservatives. They were left-wingers who said, stop being so honest. Don't tell them what
00:17:44.920 we actually think about this issue. Don't tell them the reality of it. But I think that she's
00:17:48.900 getting the reality of the lockdowns quite right. It's just a simple law of politics that politicians
00:17:56.660 very rarely are willing to give up emergency powers. You think of, I don't know, Cincinnati's,
00:18:02.320 George Washington, handful of examples throughout history, not too many. More and more what they do is
00:18:08.480 they just keep those emergency powers and add on to them. And that's what we're seeing here. Dr.
00:18:13.420 Fauci, the exalted one, Dr. Fauci just came on television after telling us, yeah, you're going
00:18:19.340 to have to wear masks into 2022. And you're going to have to, until the virus goes down below zero,
00:18:24.740 you're going to have to wear masks. Now he's telling us that he's going to get, maybe he's going to give
00:18:29.520 us a few of our rights and liberties back, but not too many. And there's just, there's certain things
00:18:35.560 that we're not going to be able to do, like for instance, go to restaurants.
00:18:38.840 There will be things that you will not be able to do because the burden of virus in society
00:18:46.220 will be very high, which it is right now, even though we're going way down on the decline that
00:18:51.680 Dr. Walensky showed you, we are still at an unacceptably high baseline level with the seven day
00:18:59.640 average being quite high. So there are things, even if you're vaccinated, that you're not going
00:19:05.400 to be able to do in society. For example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate,
00:19:13.140 that's because of the safety of society. You yourself, what you can do when you are together
00:19:19.580 with another person, we are looking at that. And we're going to try and find out very quickly
00:19:24.920 what recommendations could be made about what people can do.
00:19:30.620 There are some things that you're just not going to be able to do. Says who? Says Dr. Fauci.
00:19:42.120 Some things that you're not going to be able to do, indoor dining, going to movie theaters,
00:19:48.800 the theater broadly, are going to places where people congregate. So the things that you're not
00:19:56.180 going to be able to do include everything, everything that people do. Individuals, I guess,
00:20:05.400 can stay home and maybe read a book, as long as it's an approved book, by the way, increasingly in our,
00:20:10.960 in our censorship regime. But the things that people do, you know, together, you're just not going to be
00:20:17.420 able to do that because of society. A healthy society would run this man out of the country on
00:20:25.920 a rail. That's what a healthy society, and I'm not talking about the health of avoiding the,
00:20:30.320 the Wuhan cough. I'm saying a healthy society that understands how to govern itself. But we're not a
00:20:36.960 healthy society. So we let this little technocratic Napoleon come in and, and, and destroy our American
00:20:47.340 way of life almost single-handedly. I mean, obviously politicians are in some ways encouraging
00:20:52.740 him to do it and in other ways are being rolled over by him. But this guy, why does this guy get
00:20:57.020 to do it? You know, hate to say I told you so, I have been on the anti-Fauci train basically from
00:21:04.060 the beginning at this point. And, uh, there were a lot of conservatives who said, no, we like Fauci.
00:21:10.160 No, it's okay. You know, he's got good interests. Now though, I, basically every conservative I think
00:21:14.680 realizes what the real situation is here. Even Meghan McCain, who, you know, is not, not the
00:21:20.820 furthest right member of the Republican party. Meghan McCain was on the view though. And she said,
00:21:24.480 oh boy, I've had enough of this guy. It's time to fire Fauci.
00:21:28.360 I'm over Dr. Fauci. I think we need to have more people giving more opinions. And I honestly,
00:21:33.700 quite frankly, I think the Biden administration should, should remove him and put someone else
00:21:37.180 in place that maybe does understand science or can talk to other countries about how we can be
00:21:41.280 more like these places that are doing this successfully. This is important. I mean, this
00:21:46.240 is a change because for people who are to the right of Genghis Khan, such as myself, uh, we, I think
00:21:51.820 we had Fauci's number from the beginning. We knew what this was all about from the beginning,
00:21:55.460 but people who are a little bit more in the center, people who are a little bit more,
00:21:59.680 you know, in terms of the Republican party or the conservative movement who are a little bit
00:22:02.940 more on the left for them now to be turning on Fauci, I think shows the sea change. The problem is
00:22:09.540 it may just be too late. The guy has got a lot of power. We're now in a sort of new normal.
00:22:15.360 This has been going on for a very long time. So what do the science and data show? Well,
00:22:20.740 there's a very happy story to come out of COVID. Lucia DeClerc, who is the oldest resident of a
00:22:26.860 New Jersey nursing home, just beat the coronavirus after testing positive on her 105th birthday.
00:22:36.240 I'm very glad to hear that for Ms. DeClerc. I'm pleased that it sounds like a happy 105th birthday
00:22:43.420 indeed. This two weeks after the oldest woman in Europe, a 116 year old nun beat coronavirus.
00:22:51.960 Now we were told that coronavirus is basically the most dangerous epidemic we've ever faced as a
00:22:56.920 society. That's why we took the unprecedented step to shut down the whole society, change everybody's
00:23:00.780 behavior. When, when the data started to contradict the narrative, the fear mongering that we've been
00:23:09.280 told, you know, for instance, younger people, basically not at a very great risk from the
00:23:13.420 virus. Then we were told, well, it's just older people. If you're older than 65 or really 75 or
00:23:17.380 really 85, then, then you're truly at risk. And you are at a higher risk according to the evidence
00:23:23.260 we've seen. When 105 year olds and 116 year olds are beating the virus that we are told is going to kill
00:23:35.460 just about anybody, certainly anybody who's a little bit up in age. I think you have to start
00:23:41.540 questioning some of the narrative around the virus. I think, I mean, I love this, these photos of like
00:23:48.960 105 year old being like, what coronavirus? By the way, do you know what this woman, her tips for healthy
00:23:53.640 living, Lucia DeClerc, are prayer, totally agree, avoiding junk food, maybe debatable, and eating nine
00:24:01.500 gin soaked raisins each morning. My girl, a woman after my own heart. What do you think is in the
00:24:07.880 leftist tears tumbler? Absolutely love that. This reminds me of, of the former oldest living World
00:24:15.000 War II veteran who just died a couple of years ago in Texas, who smoked 12 cigars a day. Love that guy.
00:24:20.080 His name escapes me at the moment, but great guy. It has been 345 days since 15 days to slow the spread.
00:24:29.140 Some of us called it at the beginning and we said, don't give them an inch on this. They're lying to
00:24:36.620 you. They, one, don't know what they're talking about in terms of the virus itself, which was borne
00:24:41.820 out again and again. But two, they're lying to you. This is not just going to be 15 days. This is going
00:24:46.740 to go on much longer. They're not going to let us return to normal if we wear the masks. Actually,
00:24:52.020 the masks are probably going to serve as a symbol to prolong these sorts of lockdowns. We're now
00:24:58.600 coming up on a year of 15 days to slow the spread and we're already being promised
00:25:02.920 another year of it. Maybe another year after that. How long before people wake up?
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00:26:05.840 Some people are describing this COVID lockdown and the way it's transforming society. They're
00:26:25.800 describing it as the great reset. They're describing it and actually some prominent people, you know,
00:26:32.000 I think the members of the royal family in the United Kingdom have described it this way. Prime
00:26:37.480 ministers and statesmen around the world have described this opportunity to reset the economy,
00:26:41.840 reset society. Hopefully it won't be reset along the lines of these crazy technocrat power mad
00:26:47.520 losers in lab coats, but there is a sort of a reset happening in the sense that politics changes by
00:26:56.400 the day. Circumstances change and so politics changes. And the old political consensus on the
00:27:02.160 left and on the right is kind of cracking up. That's why you're seeing on the left, the rise of
00:27:07.380 the woke people. And on the right, you're seeing the rise of the red pilled people, right? Those are
00:27:11.820 the two euphemisms that we're using. Woke and red pilled. They mean the same thing, right? They mean
00:27:16.700 sort of waking up out of this dream state to see reality. What people are noticing is the political
00:27:21.320 reality is different than what the major parties are telling you it is. And so you're going to have to
00:27:25.240 adjust accordingly. And the entire Trump candidacy, I think, was a consequence of this. Realizing that
00:27:32.700 the old Republican party wasn't really serving its constituents, wasn't really speaking to
00:27:36.760 the broader GOP base. So the GOP is trying to reset now. I think the GOP is pretty clearly much
00:27:45.820 more the party of workers and of the working class and of blue collar people than the Democratic party.
00:27:51.460 Ted Cruz has described this as the difference between the party of Pittsburgh and the party
00:27:55.740 of Paris. You know, when you think of the Democrats, you think of either these crazy rich kids on college
00:28:01.740 campuses talking about intersectionality, or you think of John Kerry, another crazy rich kid who's
00:28:06.980 flying around on private jets talking about how the sun monster is going to kill us all. So you think
00:28:11.380 of them. And when you think of the Republican party, you think of those deplorable, irredeemable,
00:28:15.280 mega supporting, bitter, clinging rubes in the middle of the country. And so I think that that
00:28:22.440 class, class divide and kind of geographic divide has, has actually taken place. Now, how is that
00:28:29.100 going to manifest in policy? The way you're seeing it manifest is that the GOP is beginning to break
00:28:34.920 away from some of its, what would you call it? Free market absolutism. And I think that's actually a
00:28:41.400 good thing. You know, free markets are great in their place. Free markets are an instrument to
00:28:46.480 human flourishing. But when you make an idol out of free markets, when you make an, when you make an
00:28:50.400 idol out of money, which there's a very good book that tells you not to do that, then things go
00:28:54.840 haywire. It reminds me of what Chesterton said about vices and virtues. He said, heresy is not when you
00:29:00.420 produce, when you, when you prefer vice to virtue, it's when you promote one virtue to the exclusion of
00:29:06.580 all of the others. So, you know, there's a role for the state in our society. But when you make an
00:29:12.940 idol out of the state, you get statism. That's bad. There's a role, obviously, for money, economic
00:29:18.000 growth, free markets. There's a huge role for that in society. When you make an idol out of that,
00:29:21.400 though, when you make that the only end of government, then you delve into a society that
00:29:26.120 we're in now, which is not functioning very well, where families are crumbling, where birth,
00:29:30.220 birth rates are below replacement, you know, a society that is quite literally dying.
00:29:34.280 Mitt Romney has proposed an idea, which is sending direct payments to families with children. This
00:29:42.620 is as a way to promote growing families. Marco Rubio is trying to jump on this bandwagon.
00:29:48.860 Rubio did it even less convincingly, though, I think he said, quote, sending 200 to $350 per month
00:29:55.100 per child to everyone with no work requirement, like Mitt Romney wants to do, is welfare. Being pro
00:30:01.640 family means being pro work. Our expanded child tax credit is a far better approach, meaning you got
00:30:09.720 the Romney plan, which is just send money to families. And then that way they can raise their
00:30:15.320 kids and not have to limit their family size. And Rubio saying, no, you can't just send them money.
00:30:20.380 We need them all to be out working all the time. But if they make enough money, we're going to give
00:30:24.160 them a tax credit. And this is kind of more of the traditional, you know, mid 2000s, 1990s kind of
00:30:31.420 Republican thing. I actually think being pro family is, is bigger than both of those proposals. And
00:30:40.000 this is going to be a really radical one. And you're probably not going to hear any Republican
00:30:43.840 lawmakers proposing this, but perhaps they should. Being pro family, having, having a society that is
00:30:51.380 pro family means having a society where only one parent needs to work. And that one parent can
00:30:59.360 support the household so that the other parent can stay home and raise the family. I say this as a
00:31:06.800 father now of a very newborn, cute little kid. I did not appreciate how difficult it is to keep a
00:31:14.060 baby alive. I did not for the mother, not, you know, for the father. What do I do? I just keep doing
00:31:18.620 basically the same thing I do. I've been doing for years other than maybe I'm sleeping a little bit
00:31:22.880 less. But for mothers, they basically never get to sleep. They're constantly with the child. If you
00:31:28.300 have more than one child, that obviously adds a lot to the workload. And then if you, if you are at
00:31:33.020 home doing that sort of thing, managing a home economy is difficult and involves a lot of work.
00:31:39.400 When we had growing families in this country, because I'm not, I'm not just speaking in the abstract.
00:31:43.340 I'm not just speaking in some pie in the sky solution out of, out of the depths of my own
00:31:48.560 reason. I'm just looking at how this used to work. When we had a growing, growing families,
00:31:53.280 when we had a growing population, we had a thriving society. Families were able to be supported on the
00:31:59.960 wages of just one parent. That really began to change after the second world war, obviously into
00:32:07.160 the late 20th century to the point that now you really can't, it's very difficult to support a family
00:32:11.380 on just one salary in today's economy. Now you've got Romney, who's kind of squishy, but at least,
00:32:18.120 you know, at least he's looking at this problem. You got Rubio who, I don't know, Rubio seems to
00:32:22.720 change his political colors like by the day, but now he's trying to move into this pro-family thing.
00:32:27.320 Okay. Who's going to go out there and make this actual, real, historical, practical, cultural,
00:32:35.560 conservative claim that if you really want to support families, then you need to be able to
00:32:41.480 support them with, with one of the parents actually raising the family. I don't think so,
00:32:46.960 but the politician who does do that, the politician who's willing to say that uncomfortable but
00:32:52.340 undeniable truth, that politician I think will have some serious sway in the future Republican
00:32:57.960 party. A good example of how the Republican party needs to change and how I think it is changing at
00:33:02.600 the moment. During the, the terrible weather in Texas where the power went out because it turns
00:33:07.300 out windmills are not particularly efficient. The Texas power supplier, Gritty, warned some of its
00:33:14.640 customers. He said, look, we have these sort of strange plans that are very deregulated. They're
00:33:20.480 very, you know, very market focused. So this can be helpful during good times, but during a once in a
00:33:26.340 century kind of snowstorm, this is going to be really bad. The plans, uh, vary the price based on
00:33:34.480 the supply of energy. And when energy is more or less completely cut off in Texas, the price is going
00:33:40.980 to go up through the roof. So people who normally would pay out what a hundred bucks or something for
00:33:45.060 your energy, maybe a little less, maybe a little bit more. Some people are getting bills for thousands
00:33:51.700 and thousands of dollars. Karen Cosby said that, uh, her energy costs right now are $5,000
00:33:58.560 to heat a 2,700 square foot house. DeAndre Upshaw of Texas, of Dallas said the electric bill for his
00:34:07.700 900 square foot townhouse, 900 square feet was also $5,000. The spot prices hit $9,000 per megawatt hour.
00:34:20.760 To put that into comparison, $9 per kilowatt hour. Normally that costs about seven cents.
00:34:30.840 Goes up to $9,000 per megawatt hour. Sometimes it can go down as low as two cents in ordinary times.
00:34:37.220 So Ted Cruz, Senator from Texas, much maligned Senator from Texas. If you tune into CNN or any
00:34:42.480 left-wing outlet these days, tweeted out, this is wrong. No power company should get a windfall because
00:34:47.760 of a natural disaster. And Texans shouldn't get hammered by ridiculous rate increases for last
00:34:52.660 week's energy debacle. State and local regulators should act swiftly to prevent this injustice.
00:34:59.760 A friend of mine, I saw this on Twitter the other day, Saurab Sharma, young conservative writer.
00:35:05.620 Uh, Saurab saw this story about the energy prices going up and he said, you know, it's only going to
00:35:11.140 be a matter of time before some market obsessed sociopath says that it is bad to give people
00:35:17.860 relief for their $5,000 spot energy bill. Just a few moments later, you had these kind of market
00:35:26.040 obsessed economics idolaters come out and say, we can't, you have to make DeAndre Upshaw pay the
00:35:33.140 $5,000 heating bill. Otherwise you'll disturb our idol of the market. And that would be really
00:35:38.780 terrible. I don't think any just society believes that people in a once in a century storm should
00:35:46.700 have to pay $5,000, $10,000 to heat their home or keep the lights on when, when the windmill stopped
00:35:55.620 turning. I'm not saying we throw out the free market. I'm not saying that we ignore economic
00:36:02.580 considerations, but we have to realize that economics, like so many other parts of our
00:36:06.820 society is ordered towards something that there is a higher good in our political system, which
00:36:13.660 brings me to our old pal, Ron Paul. I want to preface this segment in which I criticize Ron
00:36:19.740 Paul by saying, I generally like Ron Paul. I, especially I really liked him in 2008, but Ron
00:36:26.720 Paul, he's this confounding figure because he's gotten something so much more correct.
00:36:32.580 than the GOP over his career. In some ways, the new Republican party has to move toward what Ron
00:36:37.680 Paul is saying, but in some ways he's gotten some things totally wrong. He just totally
00:36:43.580 misunderstands politics. And there was a clip that came out from 1988 on some rambunctious
00:36:48.560 television show. You think our politics is crazy now. This show was like really raucous.
00:36:53.960 And this clip shows both and it went viral yesterday. So take a listen to Ron Paul's
00:36:59.060 a prescription for the country. Ask me why we still finance the communists. Ask me why 70%
00:37:05.420 of the military budget is spent overseas. Ask me why the good airplanes are overseas and the lousy
00:37:09.680 airplanes are not here in the, the lousy airplanes are in these air national guard. I would say clean
00:37:14.680 out the state department, spend more money on our national defense, have an anti-communist
00:37:18.660 policy. Don't sign these treaties with the Soviet. Don't extend loans to the Soviet Union. And not to
00:37:24.800 fight these wars with the funds we raised from the illegal drugs. So under the libertarian society,
00:37:30.000 no, we don't fight Vietnam Wars. We don't fight the Korean Wars. We fight wars to defend America.
00:37:34.460 You're all higher, baby. We stand for peace. We get high.
00:37:40.100 You are, excuse me. Yes, yes, we, we get high. We get high, Mark. We get high on the ideas of freedom.
00:37:48.000 We get high because freedom and liberty is worth it.
00:37:52.600 Love that answer. Yes, we do get high on freedom. Well, you're asking me if I'm high. Well, I'm high on
00:37:59.880 life. So some things here that Ron Paul says, totally right. When he says we got to clear out
00:38:04.360 the state department, if we've learned nothing from the past four years, we know there's a ton
00:38:08.040 of corruption in the state department, in the deep state, you call it the bureaucracy, the federal
00:38:12.420 blob. So absolutely, I think he's right on that. I think America did bungle a lot of its foreign
00:38:16.720 policy. Ron Paul is asked, is calling for a totally isolationist foreign policy. That seems a little
00:38:22.280 extreme for my tastes, but broadly speaking, I think he says a lot of smart things. Then, then he goes
00:38:30.800 a little bit too far, a little bit too abstract. He ignores the practical wisdom of the American
00:38:38.580 tradition for the brilliant rationalist abstractions plucked out of his own head.
00:38:44.120 Yeah, let me answer that. Just say no. Assume the responsibility of yourself. Don't assume the
00:38:49.120 government makes your decision. You say no. Don't say the government.
00:38:52.480 You have the courage to do it. It's a tyrannical approach to solving a social medical problem,
00:39:00.120 and we endorse the idea of voluntarism and self-responsibility, family, friends, and churches
00:39:04.340 to solve problems, rather than saying some monolithic government is going to make you
00:39:07.840 take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion. It never works. It
00:39:11.680 never will. The government can't make you a better person. It can't make you follow good habits.
00:39:16.480 Why don't they put you on a diet? You're a little overweight, and I think you'd be in better
00:39:20.000 health. I'm tired of people like you using the constitution to do whatever you want to do.
00:39:33.880 I actually love that woman's answer, and I think here's where Ron Paul loses me. He's talking about
00:39:39.160 drug laws. He's basically saying all drugs need to be legal, and once all drugs are legal,
00:39:44.120 that's going to be great. First of all, we're in the midst of this horrible opioid crisis where
00:39:49.580 I know people who have died from it. I suspect you might know people, or you at least know people
00:39:54.800 who know people who have died from this opioid crisis. What is your evidence that legalizing
00:40:00.500 all of these drugs is going to be a good thing, that legalizing all these drugs is going to
00:40:05.760 help people to flourish or help people to enjoy their freedom? What Ron Paul is confusing here is
00:40:11.120 liberty and licentiousness. He thinks that when you get to pursue your appetites however you want,
00:40:16.240 that's what liberty is. That's not what liberty is. We talked about this yesterday. Liberty,
00:40:20.320 according to Lord Acton, long venerated by libertarians, liberty in the conception of the
00:40:25.060 founding fathers is the ability to do what you ought to do. It's the ability to do the right thing.
00:40:31.200 It's not the freedom to do whatever you want to pursue your appetites. Do you think that a heroin
00:40:36.160 addict is free? Do you think a heroin addict has liberty? No, a heroin addict is a slave. He has no
00:40:41.000 liberty at all. He's squandered his liberty. He can't tame his passions. He can't tame his appetites.
00:40:44.880 He can't master his higher faculties and pursue liberty. This is not some radical notion. We
00:40:52.100 have known this since the ancient Greeks. We've known this at least since old uncle Aristotle.
00:40:56.060 We've known this throughout the American political tradition. And I, by the way, I think the Republican
00:41:01.220 approach to, yeah, do whatever you want as long as it doesn't affect me. We've already been trying
00:41:05.200 that. We've tried that for decades and it hasn't worked. We've lost the entire culture by doing that.
00:41:09.920 So whatever, what I'm not giving an easy answer. I'm saying whatever the future Republican Party is,
00:41:14.800 whatever the future of the conservative movement is, it's going to have to be different than that.
00:41:19.020 It's going to have to be different than what is called neoconservatism, you know, the sort of the
00:41:22.540 Bush era stuff. It's going to have to be different than the kind of radical abstractions of Ron Paul,
00:41:27.920 which have in many ways never, first of all, never been tried anywhere because they're not
00:41:32.380 practical ideas. They haven't worked where they have been tried. We maybe need to take a little bit
00:41:37.980 from Ron Paul, a little bit from the libertarians, a little bit from traditional, traditional
00:41:43.260 conservatives, obviously. And we need to look at what sort of society we want to have. I don't,
00:41:49.200 I don't think there is a simple answer to this question. That's why politicians are duking it out
00:41:52.860 right now. Now, speaking of voluntarism, which I love, you know, I, I like a lot of things
00:42:02.340 that people like Ron Paul and those libertarians, I like voluntarism. I like subsidiarity. I obviously
00:42:09.980 love federalism. But to say that the government has no role in these huge questions, that,
00:42:18.240 that is to cede our political right. That is to cede our ability for self-government to the left,
00:42:25.780 which is going to use it. Look, we have been doing that. We've been conceding
00:42:28.880 our political rights for a very long time and the left has been taking them.
00:42:33.320 Look at where it's gotten us. Not very far. But speaking of voluntarism,
00:42:38.240 someone is voluntarily canceling himself, a beloved voice actor, Harry Shearer from The Simpsons,
00:42:44.880 which is apparently still on air. It's surprising to me too, but it is. I think The Simpsons is older
00:42:52.200 than me, slight, very slightly older than me. So Harry Shearer has been voicing the role of
00:42:58.440 Dr. Hibbert for years and years. We're going on like 30 years now. But he's no longer going to do
00:43:05.700 that because you see Harry Shearer is white. Dr. Hibbert is black. You probably didn't know that
00:43:12.200 Harry Shearer is white because he's a voice actor and Dr. Hibbert is a cartoon. But we are now in the
00:43:20.440 era that tells you that you cannot culturally appropriate. And so he's going to give up his
00:43:28.660 30-year voice, his voice job, and he's going to give it to Kevin Michael Richardson, who I've never
00:43:36.120 heard, who is a black voice actor. And now that's going to make things better because white people
00:43:41.820 cannot appropriate anyone else's culture. But also white people need to be less white.
00:43:48.520 Remember, that's what Robin DiAngelo said in that training that's associated with Coca-Cola.
00:43:54.640 All those diversity, equity, inclusion, they tell you, you got to be less white,
00:43:58.460 but also you can't appropriate anybody else's culture. So what are you supposed to do?
00:44:06.560 Are you supposed to stay perfectly still? I don't know. It seems kind of white to me.
00:44:10.580 Your skin looks exactly the same, so you got to do better than that. There's nothing you can do.
00:44:15.140 It's a rigged game. It's a rigged request. It's not based in anything actionable or anything true,
00:44:22.600 which we're seeing more and more these days. This, my favorite non-traversy from this comes
00:44:28.580 from dear old Yale. The Yale Law Journal at Yale Law School is being accused of racism.
00:44:35.600 What we have heard, if you've been paying attention to these sort of silly campus politics,
00:44:41.860 is that black people are underrepresented on the Yale Law Journal masthead. A journal editor,
00:44:48.060 Gavin Jackson, just resigned, saying he felt used and tokenized in his position. And so he's going to
00:44:55.120 resign this racist organization, racist publication. So people took a look at the numbers.
00:45:02.620 Turns out, turns out, you're going to be shocked to hear this. Not only are blacks and Hispanics not
00:45:11.200 marginalized at the Yale Law Journal, they are admitted to this law journal at a higher rate than
00:45:19.840 white people. The admissions rate for black students to the Yale Law Journal is 61%,
00:45:28.620 much, much, much, much higher than that of any other ethnic group.
00:45:38.780 The anti-racists wanted to show evidence of racism and they did show evidence of racism,
00:45:47.660 racism against apparently white students. Now, I don't think that differing rates of admittance are
00:45:55.040 in and of themselves evidence of racial bigotry or discrimination. Very likely, maybe. But these
00:46:02.960 guys certainly think they do. By the logic of these race hustlers at Yale Law School, the Yale Law
00:46:10.480 Journal is racist, very racist against white students. Do you think this is now going to become a national
00:46:17.300 news story? Probably not. Because when there is actual institutional systemic racism against white
00:46:25.400 and Asian students in the form of, say, affirmative action policies, that is ignored. You won't even get
00:46:31.360 a hearing. Remember those Chinese students who were, I forget if it was Chinese specifically or if it was a
00:46:39.040 group of Asian students more broadly, sued Harvard for discrimination. Sorry, nope, not going to hear
00:46:47.060 that one. The Department of Justice under Donald Trump was looking into racial discrimination on the
00:46:52.400 same grounds at Yale. But whoops, sorry, Biden is now the president. We're not going to look into that
00:46:59.520 anymore. This kind of radical racial policy, it's not just affecting our nation's most prestigious
00:47:05.260 universities. It's going down into elementary schools. Christopher Rufa, who covers these sorts
00:47:09.700 of issues, specifically critical race theory at City Journal, is doing great stuff. He just got a
00:47:13.700 scoop that Buffalo public schools are now claiming, quote, all white people perpetuate systemic racism.
00:47:19.620 They are now forcing kindergartners there, according to this report, to watch a video of dead black
00:47:24.280 children warning them about racist police and state-sanctioned violence. He says that he's got the
00:47:31.260 whistleblower documents here. This is the sort of thing being, this is the narrative being foisted
00:47:38.440 on students now. And it doesn't just start when you're a law school student. It starts when you're
00:47:44.800 a little kid. And by the way, this does actually tie into the kind of Ron Paul vision of liberty and
00:47:50.580 libertarianism or whatever. We have to make sense of our liberty. We do that through liberal education,
00:47:58.620 and this has been true for millennia. Liberal education exists to teach us to tamp down our
00:48:03.120 passions and our base desires and to pursue our higher ordered appetites and, you know, pursue
00:48:09.260 our virtues and practice the virtues and make sense of our own freedom. This is why the left always goes
00:48:16.720 after the kids. It's why they go after education broadly and they go after education really hard and
00:48:21.600 why they go after younger and younger kids. Because if you can get to a kid when he's five years old,
00:48:26.720 you have a much greater opportunity to shape his mind. This is why maybe some of you when you were
00:48:31.520 growing up, your parents said, hey, don't watch The Simpsons, or at least don't watch this, don't
00:48:34.760 watch that. You can't watch that movie. That's why there's rating systems in movies. Because we know
00:48:38.920 that children absorb much more than adults do the content that is around them, and it helps shape the
00:48:44.880 way that they think. That's why we're much more concerned about keeping kids away from obscene material
00:48:50.320 than we are about keeping adults away. Because when you're an adult, you're a little more formed.
00:48:53.220 It's going to have less of an effect on you. Well, the left is now not just going after the
00:48:59.320 adults or even the teenagers. They're all the way going after the kids with this sort of perverse
00:49:03.020 policies. Not just throwing the kids in cages, which Joe Biden's doing, but things that are
00:49:08.720 actually much, much more dangerous. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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