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00:00:35.320 someone has finally taken Dr. Fauci to task. Senator Paul, take it away.

00:00:41.460 What study shows significant reinfection, hospitalization and death after either

00:00:46.740 natural infection or the vaccine? It doesn't exist. There is no evidence that there are

00:00:52.560 significant reinfections after vaccine. In fact, I don't think we have a hospitalization in the

00:00:57.440 United States after the two week period after the second vaccination. We don't have a death in the

00:01:02.960 United States. You're not hearing what I'm saying about variants. We're talking about wild type versus

00:01:09.900 variants. And what proof is there that there are significant reinfections with hospitalizations

00:01:16.380 and death from the variants? None in our country. Zero. Well, because we don't have a prevalent of a

00:01:22.780 variant yet. We're having one. Can I finish? We're having 117 that's becoming more dominant policy based on

00:01:30.440 conjecture. There's no evidence that there's any sort of reinfection. I'm talking about the variants.

00:01:37.440 There's no evidence of infection from the variants. Well, yeah, not yet, but maybe. Right. So stay locked

00:01:44.720 down and wear your mask, you sheep. Well, that's not going to work for me, Fauci. It doesn't work

00:01:49.460 for me either. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show.

00:02:00.300 My favorite comment yesterday from Douglas Roach, who says, this is kind of, it seems like a very

00:02:05.700 simple observation, but it's an important one. He says, the left is a never ending slippery slope.

00:02:11.760 Do you remember, I want to say 10, 15 years ago, we heard about the slippery slope from the right.

00:02:17.820 A lot of conservatives said, you know, if you start normalizing certain cultural programs,

00:02:24.200 certain bits of the cultural revolution, pretty soon you're going to end up in a really weird

00:02:29.460 place in our country where you've got like drag queen story hour and we all lock down and we all

00:02:33.800 wear stupid masks all the time and we upend our whole culture. And what did the left say? Oh,

00:02:38.500 stop it. Oh, you're being paranoid. Oh, there's no such thing as a slippery slope. Actually,

00:02:44.240 conservatives have been warning about a slippery slope since the sixties, at least really, even

00:02:48.920 probably earlier than that. The left says, oh no, you're crazy. You're no, what are you talking about?

00:02:55.040 The slippery slope people were right about everything. Every conservative who has ever invoked

00:03:03.340 the slippery slope and been laughed at for it was right. And now we're living in that bottom of that

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00:04:36.400 here. You know, the classic videos, I guess Ben is the typical example of this, but the videos,

00:04:40.620 you know, conservative owns liberal. Rand Paul owned Dr. Fauci. It was a great exchange because

00:04:48.460 Dr. Fauci did what, what leftist experts do, what the technocrats always do, which is say,

00:04:54.640 you're not, you don't understand my brilliant ideas. Because Rand Paul says specifically that

00:05:02.060 we don't see evidence of reinfection from COVID. So once you get vaccinated or once you've already

00:05:06.080 gotten the virus, you can take the stupid mask off. And then Fauci says, no, I'm talking about

00:05:10.400 the new variants of COVID, right? So he's trying to misdirect here. But then Rand Paul says, okay,

00:05:17.260 fine. We're talking about the variants. There's no evidence that if you've gotten COVID or you've

00:05:21.880 been vaccinated against COVID, that you're particularly susceptible to the new variants

00:05:25.860 either. And Fauci says, okay, yeah, you're right. There's not evidence, but there's not a lot of

00:05:30.520 evidence that you're not susceptible, you know? So therefore stay locked down, do whatever I tell

00:05:35.600 you to do. Even if my rules change by the hour, Rand Paul not having it. He says, this is government

00:05:41.960 by conjecture. No, you have the, it isn't based on conjecture. So you some, you want people to wear

00:05:48.720 a mask for another couple of years. No, you've been vaccinated and you parade around in two masks

00:05:53.680 for show. No, you can't get it again. There's almost, there's virtually 0% chance you're going

00:05:59.020 to get it. And yet you're telling people that have had the vaccine who have immunity. You're defying

00:06:03.820 everything we know about immunity by telling people to wear a mask to been vaccinated. Instead,

00:06:07.840 you should be saying there is no science to say we're going to have a problem from the large number

00:06:13.140 of people being vaccinated. You want to get rid of vaccine hesitancy? Tell them they can quit wearing

00:06:16.780 their mask after they get the vaccine. You want people to get the vaccine? Give them a reward

00:06:20.900 instead of telling them that the nanny state's going to be there for three more years and you

00:06:25.000 got to wear a mask forever. People don't want to hear it. There's no science behind it.

00:06:29.320 What a brilliant point here from Rand Paul and Rand Paul has been really great in the Fauci debates

00:06:34.780 because he's kind of the flip side of Dr. Fauci. They are both doctors, right? They're,

00:06:42.160 they're both medical professionals and they're also both politicians. And people only think of

00:06:47.900 Rand Paul as a politician and people only think of Dr. Fauci as a medical professional, but they're

00:06:52.860 actually, each of them are both. They both work for the government. They both get their paycheck from

00:06:58.460 the federal government. They have both worked in medicine before and they're just expressing

00:07:03.500 different political views. Dr. Fauci expressing the left-wing technocrat administrative state view

00:07:09.100 that we need to have government by experts and Rand Paul expressing the conservative and libertarian

00:07:14.780 view that we ought to have constitutional government by the people. And Rand Paul is also making a great

00:07:19.200 point about incentives here. I'm not particularly interested in getting the vaccine, not because I'm

00:07:25.880 totally worried about, you know, Bill Gates injecting me with 5G or whatever. Frankly,

00:07:30.560 my cell service isn't that great. So I could, I could use a little boost anyway, if I became a

00:07:34.700 hotspot, you know, but it's not because of any crazy theories that you see anywhere. It's just

00:07:38.860 because statistically speaking, I don't really need it. I'm young, I'm relatively healthy. I'm not

00:07:44.760 saying I'm totally invincible or impervious to the virus. I'm just saying I make calculated risks every

00:07:50.980 time I walk out the door. And sometimes when I'm in my home too, and this seems like a risk I would

00:07:56.000 be willing to take. If I were 90 years old, maybe I'd have a different idea. If I were extremely

00:08:01.540 overweight, maybe I'd have a different idea. If I stay in Nashville long enough, I will become

00:08:05.140 extremely overweight. And then I would have a different idea perhaps too. But even if I were

00:08:10.080 interested in getting the vaccine, you need to incentivize people, right? I, as a pure personal

00:08:17.920 health matter, there's not a ton of incentive for me to get it. If I'm also being told that I, I won't be

00:08:23.620 able to take the mask off. I won't be able to change the way that I behave once I get the vaccine,

00:08:27.760 then I truly have no incentive. There's just no reason to do it at all. And that's what Fauci is

00:08:31.560 doing. And he is doing it as Rand Paul says for show Rand Paul or Dr. Fauci will put the mask on in

00:08:37.740 the middle of a baseball diamond where he's not close to anybody whatsoever. And then he'll dribble

00:08:42.760 that ball to home plate. And then he'll go sit up in the stands with his friends sitting three inches

00:08:49.000 apart from them and he'll take the mask off. People, people he doesn't live with, but he just

00:08:54.440 thinks the cameras are off of him so he can behave more normally. None of the people who want you to

00:09:00.280 live your life in terror of coronavirus are fearful of coronavirus themselves. John Kerry shows this too.

00:09:08.200 John Kerry just got caught on camera. He was on an airplane. He goes into the first class cabin,

00:09:15.120 sits down, immediately takes his mask off. He's not drinking something. He's not eating something.

00:09:20.700 He just takes his mask off because he realizes that in many social situations, the masks are just for

00:09:28.660 show, right? They're not doing quite as much as some public health experts are telling you they do.

00:09:34.820 That's actually what Dr. Fauci told us at the beginning. They're not doing a ton and there can

00:09:38.800 actually be some negative effects of it if you're touching your face and you're touching your eyes and

00:09:42.620 whatever. You're moving it around all the time. John Kerry gets caught doing this. That'll teach

00:09:47.620 him not to fly private. He's going to, he's going to have to start flying private again. If he does

00:09:51.740 that, this is just an imposition for the little people, but the big people violate it. You remember

00:09:59.160 this at Joe Biden, Joe Biden early, early in office. He signs a rule saying that on federal lands,

00:10:06.140 you've got to wear the mask all the time. What does he do? He goes to the Lincoln Memorial.

00:10:09.640 Well, he's got his family there and people aren't wearing masks because there's one set of rules

00:10:15.100 for the rulers and there's one set of rules for the ruled. Somehow though, I love the Fauci

00:10:22.180 testimony. I hope we play that on repeat. Somehow Fauci's testimony was not the worst testimony over

00:10:27.680 the past few days. The same regime that will not let us out of our homes for fear of the virus and

00:10:34.880 tells us we have to wear 75 masks even after we get vaccinated is now admitting that it lets

00:10:41.760 foreign nationals into this country without checking them for coronavirus. This, uh, rep Andrew

00:10:48.560 Clyde grilling the secretary of the department of Homeland security, Alejandro Mayorkas,

00:10:54.720 and he puts them in a corner. Can you assure the American people that no one

00:10:59.300 who has been apprehended, um, is released into our communities with, uh, that still test positive

00:11:07.460 for COVID-19? Um, uh, Congressman, let me be, be, let me be clear. Uh, there were times earlier

00:11:17.000 when individuals, um, were apprehended and we sought to expel them and we were unable to expel

00:11:26.300 them and we were compelled to release them and we did not have the opportunity to test them. We

00:11:31.780 have addressed that situation. So, so right now, as we speak right now, you're telling me that no one

00:11:38.680 is released into our country that is COVID-19 positive. Congressman, uh, allow me to repeat

00:11:46.020 myself if I may. Well, that's just a yes or no question. Just yes or no. No, it's, um, Congressman,

00:11:51.960 if I may, uh, the situation, uh, at the border is complex and the complexity is evidenced by the

00:11:58.120 questions I've been receiving throughout the morning. The situation at the border is complex,

00:12:03.680 but this question is not complex, Mr. Secretary. Have people, foreign nationals, been released into

00:12:11.900 our country without being tested for COVID-19? Well, you know, the nuances and the, it's a yes or

00:12:17.900 no question. I understand that immigration is a complex issue. This is not a complex issue.

00:12:23.300 Has it happened or not? Yeah. Well, we try to enforce the rules. Yeah. Right. I know that you do.

00:12:30.820 Have, have you succeeded in that? He pushes him further. I thought that this was great questioning

00:12:34.640 too by, by representative Andrew Clyde here. Okay. Yeah. It's complex. Take away the complexity for a

00:12:40.060 second. Can you tell me that you have succeeded in enforcing your rules? So please, if I may,

00:12:47.900 it is our policy to test and to quarantine. Okay. But are you executing to that policy? 100%.

00:12:56.340 We are doing the best we can to ensure that the policy is executed 100% of the time that I can say.

00:13:05.200 This is like, you know, if your girlfriend says to you, you know, I love you. And you say, yeah,

00:13:13.280 I love spending time with you. He says, what? No. Do you love me though? Yeah. No, I love

00:13:20.360 so much of what we, no, you're not answering the question. Do you stop these people from coming into

00:13:28.300 the country without being tested for COVID? We, that is our policy. Okay. Are you succeeding at

00:13:34.600 that policy? We are trying our best. Uh-huh. It's just, can you please get, okay. I guess your non-answer

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00:13:50.260 people and having Thanksgiving and having Christmas and going out without the, the secular

00:13:54.240 keffia all over your face is allowing foreign nationals to enter our country without being

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00:15:16.740 Even Democrats are calling out the absolute madness that's going on at the border.

00:15:27.060 Even, because what they're doing here is they're not trying to enforce the law. They are incentivizing

00:15:37.420 law-breaking. This guy, Mayorkas, the Secretary of Department of Homeland Security,

00:15:43.780 is out of one side of his mouth saying, look, we're really trying to enforce the law and we're

00:15:49.060 doing our best and please give us some grace here. But then out of the other side of his mouth, he's

00:15:53.360 saying, also, people should come to the border. Maybe not right now, but they should surge to the

00:15:58.400 border because we're going to let them in and we're going to give them amnesty.

00:16:01.060 If you say to them this morning, do not come, the next question is going to be,

00:16:06.680 how long do I wait and what am I waiting for? Is there going to come a moment where you say,

00:16:12.340 okay, now's the time?

00:16:15.800 In weeks, in several months, we will expand the legal processes that we already have started to

00:16:24.380 rebuild. We already have reinstituted the Central American Minors Program that was built in the

00:16:31.360 Obama-Biden administration and that was torn down by the prior administration. But we well understand

00:16:37.140 that out of desperation, some children might not wait. Some loving parents might send their child

00:16:44.940 to traverse Mexico alone to reach the southern border, our southern border. I hope they don't

00:16:51.580 undertake that perilous journey. But if they do, we will not expel that young child. We will care for

00:16:58.380 that young child and unite that child with a responsible parent. That is who we are as a nation.

00:17:04.800 So do not come now, but come in like 15 minutes. That'll solve our problem, right? It's an incoherent

00:17:14.060 policy. It will increase suffering for everybody. Not only is it unjust in itself because it

00:17:21.200 breaks these laws and these are just laws that a country ought to be able to have its own borders.

00:17:26.600 America has the most open immigration regime in the world and that's still not enough for some of

00:17:31.600 these radicals. But also just in terms of the personal suffering that everyone will undergo,

00:17:37.000 when you incentivize illegal immigration, you empower cartels, you empower coyotes, you empower

00:17:44.040 smugglers. There was a study that came out some years ago from Fusion and Huffington Post. So you're

00:17:49.080 talking about left wing outlets here that said that 60 to 80% of women and girls who cross that

00:17:54.020 border illegally are raped or sexually assaulted on the journey. Even from a purely only focus on

00:18:00.280 the migrants, you know, humanitarian perspective, pretty vicious stuff. But the left is encouraging

00:18:06.580 it because they want a flood of migrants into the country because they know that they are going to

00:18:11.380 overwhelmingly win those votes. Whether or not the, they have a plan for amnesty for the people who

00:18:17.220 are crossing illegally, but even if they don't get it there, they're still overwhelmingly likely to win

00:18:21.980 those votes one and even two generations afterward. And this is because of birthright citizenship.

00:18:29.140 When, when this is too much for democratic representatives in Congress, you know that the

00:18:35.120 left has gone quite far. A representative Raul Ruiz, Democrat from California, says the Biden

00:18:41.940 administration, just not doing enough. When it comes to immigration, President Biden saying very

00:18:47.860 clearly in an interview, don't come here to migrants. Is that enough? You know, no, that's not

00:18:55.600 enough. I mean, one is it's very important that people realize that we're in the middle of a pandemic

00:19:00.240 and that it's not safe for them, especially with the cartels and the coyotes that are taking

00:19:05.380 advantage of them and re-traumatizing them during the journey. So he, it was actually coincidental.

00:19:10.640 I, I didn't remember that he had made that point, but it's the same point that I just made,

00:19:14.060 which is you, you, when you're having, have these lax policies that are supposed to be aiding

00:19:20.220 the migrants, what you are doing inevitably is empowering these vicious gangsters who are brutalizing

00:19:28.020 not only our country, not only Americans, but also the migrants themselves. Vicente Gonzalez,

00:19:33.060 Democratic representative from Texas saying this has gone too far. Democrats need to stop

00:19:38.980 this crazy policy. Coming across the, the, the, the Rio Grande river and being processed and released

00:19:46.960 into our communities, uh, cannot be the norm. Uh, our cities and our counties on the border don't have

00:19:53.720 the resources to deal with this. And, and, uh, it's a federal government's responsibility. It puts

00:19:58.320 a lot of pressure on our local governments and our local communities. And we're in the middle of a

00:20:02.480 pandemic where every one of us has lost somebody who, who we love. And, uh, I've, we've, as I said,

00:20:08.280 I've lost over 3000, uh, constituents in my area. I've lost 11 personal friends and family members.

00:20:15.660 We've been ravaged here in South Texas and, uh, we need an orderly process to assure our safety and our

00:20:21.340 help. Absolutely. Now, why is, are these democratic representatives speaking out here? I think it's

00:20:28.460 pretty clear it's because they're from border States. And so these issues are sort of immaterial

00:20:34.540 to people in New York and Northern California and Chicago. I mean, you see illegal aliens end up there.

00:20:41.340 And so it does create problems, but it's very different up there than for people who are right

00:20:47.700 there on the border, seeing the realities of this every single day and seeing how much worse the

00:20:52.300 problem has gotten because of the policies of president Biden. But is it really president Biden

00:20:58.120 who's pushing these policies? You know, I've said from the very beginning, I don't think Joe Biden is

00:21:02.860 a person. I don't think he's a human being. I think he is a suit. And then there is some sort of

00:21:09.020 matter, I guess, that's, that fills the suit and kind of, you know, it has the form of a human body,

00:21:14.780 but he is just in effect, this empty suit. And when he wakes up in the morning, he licks his index

00:21:21.080 finger. He puts it up in the air. He figures out which way the wind is blowing. Occasionally the,

00:21:25.740 the combination of Joe Biden's vacuity and his incompetence, you know, his, his, uh, tendency

00:21:32.980 to have slips and gaffes combines in a really hilarious way. For instance, when Joe Biden referred

00:21:40.160 yesterday to president Harris must be matched with fairness and equity.

00:21:46.940 Now, when president Harris and I took, uh, a virtual tour of a vaccination center in Arizona,

00:21:52.620 that was nice that president Harris took you on that tour. That was nice that she,

00:21:56.780 she picked you up, you know, allowed you to come out of the, the house for the day,

00:22:02.060 get, get a little fresh air, which is good. And then obviously take you,

00:22:04.680 take you right back to it. A great line. A lot of people have drawn a comparison between Joe Biden

00:22:11.240 and the late Soviet dictators. Reagan used to joke that he wanted to reach out to them,

00:22:18.180 but they kept dying on him. You know, there were just these figureheads. They were very old. They

00:22:23.280 were not particularly effective. Does this mean that Kamala Harris is running the show? Maybe I,

00:22:28.800 it would seem that she's exerting some influence here and Joe Biden refers to her as the president.

00:22:32.700 Even on the campaign trail, he was, he was making references to her as the president.

00:22:36.960 But it's, it's more than that. It's not just this wicked Kamala Harris pulling the strings.

00:22:41.600 It's the whole edifice that the reason that Joe Biden is able to be a completely empty suit

00:22:46.680 is because he is merely an avatar for the liberal establishment. He, he is in many ways a return to,

00:22:53.140 to normal. The normal is not a normal that we like, namely corporations with no loyalty to our

00:22:59.360 country, upending our culture, uh, people pulling away any sort of immigration controls that we have

00:23:07.260 upending law and order. I mean, but unfortunately that was kind of the normal that was being pushed

00:23:11.720 by this establishment. And it would, it would seem that even Joe Biden is, is admitting this.

00:23:16.620 Speaking of mistaken identity to show you where the slippery slope is going, a man in Canada,

00:23:22.540 not in the United States, but our neighbor to the North America's hat, uh, Robert Hoogland from

00:23:27.720 Surrey, British Columbia, uh, is now spending time in jail because he referred to his daughter

00:23:34.160 as she. He called his daughter, 14 year old daughter, she, and now the Supreme Court of British

00:23:44.520 Columbia, having ordered this girl to receive testosterone injections, the court is now, uh,

00:23:51.440 ordering him to go to jail, finding him to be in contempt. 14 year old people, you'll,

00:23:57.720 you'll know are below the age of consent. They can't consent to do very many things. If they

00:24:03.060 want to work, they have to get certain permits. If they want to have sex, they're not allowed to do

00:24:06.480 that. If they want to have certain medical procedures, they need parental consent because

00:24:10.820 they themselves cannot consent. That's the premise of law of, uh, age of consent laws. But if this girl

00:24:17.360 says that she's a boy, not only can she get these hormone treatments, the courts in Canada will insist

00:24:27.600 that she get those hormone treatments, even over the, over the objections of her parents. And if her

00:24:32.700 parents continue to object, the court will throw those parents in prison. This began because the

00:24:38.900 girl's school urged her to see a psychologist who then recommended that the girl take the hormones.

00:24:44.060 This actually began at age 13. And then the doctors at the school, which is run by the government,

00:24:53.020 right? Decided that the girl should receive the testosterone injections. And then the father

00:24:58.960 couldn't say boo about it. This is the slippery slope. This is not some, some foreign, you know,

00:25:07.160 way across the seas dictatorship. That's so unlike ours. This is a government that's very much like ours.

00:25:13.520 And that is just further in the direction of progressivism. And this sort of thing is not so

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00:26:40.080 C-O-A-S-T-A-L.com slash Michael. Some restrictions apply. The problem of the slippery slope is that

00:26:47.140 all societies have standards. We're always going to have some standards. And when you start knocking

00:26:53.060 down our traditional standards, very often there's no limiting principle to that. So you just

00:26:59.340 are in free fall and you have no argument, having destroyed the old standards, you have no argument

00:27:04.580 for stopping the cultural radicalism at any given point. The question is, what standards are we going

00:27:11.140 to have? Wheaton College showing this craziness. Wheaton College, which is a Christian school,

00:27:17.240 is removing the word savage from a plaque that it had up honoring missionaries. The plaque was honoring

00:27:25.620 these Wheaton College missionaries who went in to the savages of the jungle. These tribes that were

00:27:33.760 living in a very brutal and savage way. And these missionaries were killed by the savage tribe. But that's

00:27:41.900 not the end of the story. The end of the story is that the families of these missionaries continued their

00:27:48.960 work and extended Christian love and grace to them. And now they love one another. Many of the tribesmen

00:27:58.640 did convert to Christianity. The story has a happy ending. These people had been harassed by the Shell

00:28:05.780 oil company and had been killing oil company employees, trying to keep those employees from entering into

00:28:12.860 their territory. The Shell oil company had gone to the Ecuadorian government and convinced them that if

00:28:20.520 they wanted the Shell oil company to find oil, that together they had to get rid of this problem.

00:28:26.900 So dad and his friends decided to try to make a contact, a friendly contact, before efforts were made to try to wipe

00:28:34.460 this small tribe of violent people out. In the process, dad and his friends were killed. But that's only the

00:28:45.180 beginning of the story. A USA Today editor, when he was interviewing us, said, you know, I can understand

00:28:51.660 possibly forgiving the man who killed your father. But he said, but loving him, that seems almost morbid.

00:28:58.980 And you know, it would be if it wasn't true. Wow. Oh my goodness. What an incredible story.

00:29:06.240 What a Christian story. This is the story of the spread of Christianity, which Wheaton College ought to

00:29:13.680 defend. But they're very upset about the word savage. The word savage refers to the woods. That's the

00:29:19.760 etymology, people living in the woods. This tribe living in the woods. Wheaton College very upset because

00:29:26.700 it's offensive to the indigenous culture. Those missionaries were offensive to the indigenous

00:29:31.960 culture because they went into the jungles, into the woods and said, hey, you savages should stop

00:29:37.640 living in this way, which is pagan and missing out on the good news of the gospel that we are bringing

00:29:45.180 you. Oh my goodness. Could you imagine if the Wheaton College administrators heard me say that? They

00:29:49.740 would be shocked and horrified. But guess what? Many of these tribesmen, these former savages would agree

00:29:56.400 with everything I just said. That's why they converted to Christianity. What we are saying

00:30:01.480 here, what, what missionaries used to be able to say, what our whole culture used to be able to say

00:30:05.600 is that it is better to be civilized than to live in the woods. Moreover, it is better to believe the

00:30:13.280 good news of the gospel than to believe whatever crazy pagan religions you were believing before

00:30:17.540 because it is more reasonable. It is not merely an act of will. We, the missionaries imposing by force

00:30:26.740 our will on you. That's not what they did at all. They gave their lives trying to spread the gospel.

00:30:31.040 And then the children of these people came up and not only forgave the people who murdered their,

00:30:35.120 their parents, but loved them. And through this kind of love, you see the spread of Christianity.

00:30:41.020 Christianity. That, that's what happened. It wasn't just will. It was reasonable. And some of these

00:30:46.120 people reasoned and made an act of faith to come to Christianity, a wonderful thing. But the college

00:30:52.400 doesn't understand what its purpose is anymore because we are losing our sense that you can rely

00:30:58.120 on reason. You can do, do all sorts of things. Speaking of savages, have to get to this story before

00:31:03.080 we get to mailbag. A Wisconsin Children's Court judge who previously ran an LGBTQ organization that,

00:31:09.620 that fundraised for Drag Queen Story Hour, among other programs, was arrested Tuesday on charges of

00:31:17.000 child pornography. Stop the presses. I am absolutely shocked. I couldn't possibly be more surprised

00:31:25.880 that some degenerate pushing Drag Queen Story Hour, which is transvestites twerking for little toddlers

00:31:33.020 at a public library, that he might have some kind of weird sexual preferences and fascination with

00:31:38.900 children. Shocking, isn't it? No, it's not shocking at all. Brett Blom, according to reports from the

00:31:45.100 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, was taken into custody by special agents with the State Division of Criminal

00:31:49.900 Investigation following an investigation into multiple uploads of child pornography through a

00:31:54.100 kick messaging application in October and November. Brett Blom is gay and probably the most disturbing

00:32:01.920 part of this whole thing is that he and his partner have two adopted children, I believe. So really,

00:32:08.680 really worrisome stuff. Can we just agree to get rid of Drag Queen Story Hour? Can we just agree that

00:32:17.600 where there's smoke, often there is fire? Can we just agree that it is not a blessing of liberty

00:32:23.380 to have transvestites twerking for toddlers at the public library? Every conservative and just about

00:32:30.880 every Democrat would have agreed with this 10 years ago, not that long ago. But now, because the

00:32:39.040 slippery slope just has a sliding on down, because of that, even many conservatives now will say,

00:32:46.780 you know, well, if we ban Drag Queen Story Hour, then they might tell us we can't go to church.

00:32:53.100 They're already telling you you can't go to church. They've been telling you that for a year in many

00:32:56.320 places in this country. And, and by the way, if we can't distinguish in this country between

00:33:03.480 twerking for toddlers in drag and going to church, if we, if we think those two things are basically

00:33:11.020 kind of the same, right, we can't make a moral judgment between them, then we can't make any kind

00:33:15.520 of moral judgment. Then we can't have any kind of political vision because self-government relies on the

00:33:19.940 ability of the people to, to make these kinds of judgments for themselves and then implement that

00:33:25.160 through self-government. Another leftist leader of dubious morals, before we get to the mailbag,

00:33:31.240 Sir Major Page, 32 years old, was just invited, indicted rather. He was invited to go to prison

00:33:37.060 by a federal grand jury in Cleveland on three counts of money laundering, one kind of wire fraud,

00:33:42.800 according to the DOJ. Page is the leader of the Black Lives Matter of Greater Atlanta Facebook page.

00:33:50.480 He created a 501c3 nonprofit organization for this group. He raised almost a half million dollars from

00:33:56.620 donors. And do you know how he spent that money that was being given to him, oodles of it being

00:34:00.940 given to him for social justice and racial justice? He spent it on his house, on guns,

00:34:08.220 and on hookers. It was always a grift. It was always a con, the BLM organization. This is why

00:34:16.740 the family of Michael Brown and Ferguson and other community leaders in Ferguson are now demanding

00:34:21.860 tens of millions of dollars from the BLM organization because they want a little cut of

00:34:25.840 the action. They want a piece of this extortion ring that BLM has been running on corporate America

00:34:30.480 and many other people for well over a year now. It was always a naked power grab. Some people gullible

00:34:38.840 gave into it. Others did not. Meanwhile, when they're not blowing money on guns, homes, and hookers,

00:34:45.200 they're spending it to burn the country down through the riots that we saw for six to eight

00:34:51.140 months in this country. Quite a slippery slope. Could you imagine telling someone that this would

00:34:55.760 happen five, 10 years ago? They wouldn't have believed it. The only way we're going to stop these

00:34:59.620 things is if we make substantive moral claims, which is an argument I make in my upcoming book,

00:35:04.440 Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available for pre-order until Amazon figures out

00:35:08.220 what it's about, and then they'll take it off. All right. We have got to get to my favorite time of

00:35:12.060 the week, the mailbag. Go check out Ben today, who talks about ways to stop this kind of cancel

00:35:17.760 culture. Says that the cancellations will continue until morale improves. Also, the Michael Knowles Show

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00:36:26.160 First question from Anonymous. General Knowles, I'm in the military and have mandatory CNO-directed

00:36:37.540 extremism training next week. I don't know what will be said or discussed, but I think we can guess

00:36:43.620 given the events of the week. I would like to voice my conservative perspective, but I'm fearful

00:36:48.480 because cancel culture here includes legal action under the UCMJ, that's Uniform Code of Military Justice.

00:36:54.200 Any advice for me of note, Kendi's book, How to Be an Anti-Racist, is on the CNO's professional

00:37:00.080 reading program. That's unbelievable, as well as other extremist books. Thank you. It's very sad to

00:37:07.740 see this. One great benefit of the Trump era, I was actually chatting with a military friend of mine

00:37:13.060 last night. One great benefit of the Trump era is Trump exposed the bureaucratic left

00:37:24.200 of a lot of the officer class. I think there are plenty of good military officers out there.

00:37:30.720 I think maybe it's even most of the military officers. Maybe it's most of the enlisted guys

00:37:35.400 are good, ordinary, patriotic American people who believe perfectly conservative things.

00:37:42.400 But a lot of people who have attained power among officers and even among enlisted guys,

00:37:47.920 like that wacko from Space Force the other day who was yelling at Tucker Carlson,

00:37:51.400 A lot of the guys who have risen and been able to attain positions of power, both the officers and

00:37:56.860 the enlisted men, are left-wingers. And I don't just mean left-wingers in the way that we always

00:38:04.360 have a left and right in the country. I mean radical left-wingers who are seeking to upend our

00:38:08.540 traditional American culture. Guys pushing the racialist theories of Ibram Kendi and all sorts of

00:38:14.200 people like that. That's a big problem. And I think a lot of the conservative impulse to just

00:38:21.220 give as much money as they want to the Pentagon. Oh, Pentagon wants a ton of money. Yeah, no amount

00:38:25.580 of money is too great. I think we've got to check that a little bit and recognize that

00:38:30.620 all bureaucratic institutions have a tilt toward leftism. And because the left has waged,

00:38:40.520 in the words of the communist theorist and leader Antonio Gramsci, a war of position for the last

00:38:47.340 hundred years, a topic I mentioned in my book at length, Speechless. Because of this war of position,

00:38:54.240 they've attained a lot of power in the universities, in Hollywood, in the media,

00:38:58.680 in the administrative state, and even in the military. And so we need to reform that. I'm not

00:39:04.860 the sort of person who says we need to rip everything out, root and branch. I think we need to go in and have

00:39:09.740 the gullones to, it's a little Italian-American for you, cojones, spine at the very least, to be more

00:39:17.700 polite, to exercise political power when we get political power. And it's a very difficult thing

00:39:23.420 to do, particularly with the military, because it's so big, it's so entrenched. In many ways,

00:39:29.700 the traditions of the military have helped it from going completely off the rails, but the radicals

00:39:33.920 are trying to transform it. Very difficult stuff. My friends just don't know, you know, some have walked

00:39:38.480 out of these trainings, but done it in enough of a way that they won't get in trouble for it. But it's a very

00:39:44.780 fraught political problem right now. The only answer is going to be political reform. From Abraham.

00:39:50.420 Hi, Michael. Are you jealous of Matt's obvious beard awesomeness, or can you grow an equally amazing beard

00:39:56.200 and are just hiding the skill? I am man enough to admit that I cannot grow a particularly convincing beard.

00:40:03.240 You know, it's a little sparse. It's even a little bit patchy. I can grow a mustache in about 25 minutes,

00:40:09.760 but that creates a big problem because, you know, I give a lot of talks at schools,

00:40:13.300 and when I grow the mustache, it's a court rule. I'm not allowed within 300 yards of any schools.

00:40:18.700 Kind of like that guy, you know, the guy who was the court judge who ran Drag Queen Story Hour. I start

00:40:24.480 to look like one of those guys, so I can't, I just can't pull it off, okay? If I could pull off a

00:40:29.360 Walshy type beard, or even better, the Spencer Clavin square beard, I would do it. If I could

00:40:33.420 pull off the Tom Selleck mustache, I would do it. Some people are meant for facial hair. Others are

00:40:38.820 not. From Liana. Hey, Michael. What would it take for individuals to pull a Christie gnome joined

00:40:44.380 together and give the stimulus checks back? I have to believe there are enough smart, savvy people out

00:40:49.080 there to know what this money actually will cost and would choose to give that $1,400 back just so

00:40:54.940 their children and grandchildren wouldn't eventually have to. A statement that, that of sorts that

00:41:00.340 clearly showed that some of us can't be bought. I'm not going to give the money back. If I don't

00:41:05.660 know if I'm getting a stimulus check, I think I actually am supposed to, depending on which,

00:41:08.640 what tax year and how it's all these kind of Byzantine rules. If I get a stimulus check,

00:41:12.900 I'm not going to give it back. I appreciate your impulse to do that. If I could create a world in

00:41:19.900 which we took the budget seriously and didn't just enslave our children to endless debt and

00:41:25.120 actually try to pass on an inheritance to our children instead of just destroying the inheritance

00:41:29.000 that we've received, both culturally and financially, I would, I would do that. But

00:41:35.400 unfortunately, this is a strategy that Republicans have pursued for a long time and it hasn't worked.

00:41:40.640 Namely, to play by the set of rules that we want everyone to play by while the other side is

00:41:46.020 going to play by their own set of rules. That doesn't work. That's, that's just unilateral

00:41:50.920 disarmament. And I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to say all the conservatives give up your

00:41:56.260 money, but let the left wingers get their money. No, that's just an even more egregious transfer of

00:42:00.520 wealth to the left. I wouldn't do that at all. How do you transform this sort of thing? I think what

00:42:08.000 we need to do is deal in the real political circumstances that we're in right now. And we need to use

00:42:13.340 every advantage that the left will give us to crack up the left. And that's not, that's not a purely

00:42:20.080 abstract, feel good way to understand our political principles. But our political principles, which

00:42:27.540 exist in the abstract, have to be applied in real life if they are going to have any sort of weight

00:42:33.500 to them, any gravity to them. And that's what we need to do now. I think that was a lot of what the

00:42:37.600 Trump era was about too, is you had a lot of people clutching their pearls when Trump was nominated

00:42:43.520 because they say, no, this isn't the principled way of Mitt Romney and John McCain. It's not the

00:42:49.380 way that we in a principled way lose. Right. It's not. It's not. But it would be better to win in a

00:42:56.520 way that maybe discomforts you, not in a way that's immoral, but in a way that maybe discomforts you a

00:43:00.080 little bit than to lose in a perfectly wonderful way. From Joy, hey, Michael, the mainstream media

00:43:06.040 is shocked, shocked that the Catholic church is in fact Catholic and follows scripture and tradition

00:43:10.480 as they have for the last thousand years. Hypothetically, what could Catholics do if a

00:43:14.660 pope was elected that ignored scripture and tradition in a blatant attempt to be more culturally

00:43:19.560 relevant? Specifically, if a new future pope was chosen that allowed blessings to same-sex unions,

00:43:24.640 hand-waved abortion, and all the other items from the world's wish list, would we see another era of

00:43:29.560 three popes at the same time? Do Catholics have a form of civil disobedience if the papacy went

00:43:33.900 blatantly unbiblical? Well, there are ways to question the pope. There are very prominent

00:43:38.760 cardinals, members of the episcopacy, who have raised dubia doubts that the pope should answer,

00:43:46.060 and Pope Francis has not done that. You can even politely charge people with heresy. The pope has not

00:43:54.140 responded to those things either, and so that's all perfectly acceptable. We've had bad popes before.

00:44:00.020 We've had heretic popes, for goodness sakes, and yet the church has survived that.

00:44:07.480 So, Hilaire Belloc, great Catholic writer, a great conservative writer, highly recommend

00:44:12.200 everyone read Hilaire Belloc. He had a good line on this. He said that,

00:44:16.220 I am required as a matter of my faith to hold the Catholic church divine, divinely instituted,

00:44:22.120 and divinely guided. However, one bit of evidence, for those of you who don't believe that,

00:44:27.600 is that no other institution conducted with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight.

00:44:34.640 That the Catholic church is run so poorly by such flawed men, and that has been the case,

00:44:43.040 sometimes worse, sometimes a little better, for 2,000 years, that the real wonder here is that the

00:44:48.640 church has survived, and survived as it has, intact. That, to me, is an evidence of divine guidance.

00:44:57.880 Catholics believe that when Christ says, I will always be with you, I will not leave you,

00:45:04.580 you know, obviously he ascends up to heaven, but that he will always be there, that he will send the

00:45:09.580 Holy Spirit, and that God will always guide the church, that that means that no matter how crazy

00:45:15.200 things get, there will, the bark of Peter will still remain afloat. So I do believe that. There

00:45:22.840 are mechanisms in place to question popes, but, you know, even so much confusion from Pope Francis's

00:45:29.180 pontificate, somehow the church remains afloat, even in these crazy times. From Liam, dear Professor

00:45:35.260 Covfefe, is it too late to hope that conservatives will wield political power when they have it?

00:45:40.300 After the nothing strange happened here results of the last election, with election integrity

00:45:46.980 deforms being pushed through at the federal level, and with fears of ending the filibuster,

00:45:53.680 packing the Supreme Court, and turning Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico into states,

00:45:57.660 is there any hope that conservatives will ever win, let alone wield political power in the future?

00:46:01.760 Yeah, I think there's hope, but the prospects are getting worse, and some conservatives want to

00:46:06.800 remain complacent and say, oh, it's fine, it'll swing back, it'll be okay. No, that's not always the

00:46:14.000 case. Political parties come and go. Sometimes certain political parties have dominance for decade upon

00:46:22.060 decade upon decade. Think of the dominance of progressives and the Democrats in the early 20th

00:46:28.780 century. It's shaped the world that we have today. Think about the way that these parties can change

00:46:36.980 the structure of government such that it's very difficult for us to win again. I don't think that

00:46:41.560 there's a world in which it becomes totally impossible for Republicans or conservatives to win

00:46:47.040 again, because what would have to happen in that case is that the regime would have to become so corrupt

00:46:52.720 that it would have to rule basically just by the imposition of its will. And you're seeing traces of

00:46:59.460 this now. No one's ever allowed to question the election, even though you had prominent Democrats,

00:47:03.880 including Barack Obama, raising worries about election integrity measures not that long ago. Now, you're not

00:47:09.260 allowed to do that, and big tech is going to censor you, and if you question the regime's views on

00:47:13.640 transgenderism, you're going to have your books kicked out of the biggest marketplaces in the world.

00:47:18.220 You know, it's trying to close in and grab on it. I think that's evidence that it's a somewhat weak

00:47:23.720 regime. But yeah, it could persist for a long time. I think it's important that we win in the near

00:47:27.480 future, and that not only that we win, but you actually have to do things. It's great to drag Mark

00:47:32.840 Zuckerberg to a hearing and yell at him, but you know, that and a buck fifty will get you a cup of

00:47:37.280 coffee. You actually have to reform these things, hold their feet to the fire, and if you don't do that,

00:47:41.480 a lot of politicians are bought off by these guys anyway. But if they can't do that, then yeah,

00:47:45.860 probably we have lost for the near future. From Matt, dear Mr. Knowles, I sent you a question

00:47:50.600 last week regarding what you think the best argument against Christianity was. I thought

00:47:54.720 your answer was very thoughtful, and so I have a follow-up question if you're willing to entertain

00:47:57.640 it. Namely, what do you think is the best argument against Catholicism, and why do you think it falls

00:48:03.280 short? Love the show. Keep up the good work. I think the best, or I don't think there is one

00:48:08.220 good argument against Catholicism. I think there are lots of little arguments against Catholicism

00:48:14.540 that brought together, create in people a sort of disposition against Catholicism.

00:48:22.400 It was said, I forget who it was, it's a very famous statement, and I'll just, I'll attribute

00:48:25.800 it to Ronald Knox, but I don't know, it was one of these sort of great Catholic writers.

00:48:30.720 Maybe it was John, gosh, I don't know, I forget, there are so many people, John Henry Newman,

00:48:36.760 who knows, who said that there are not a hundred people in this country who really hate the Catholic

00:48:44.800 Church. There are millions of people who hate what they think to be the Catholic Church, but there

00:48:49.960 aren't that many people who actually hate what the Catholic Church is. So, for instance, the Catholic

00:48:55.280 Church, as Chesterton pointed out, gets attacked for opposite reasons. It's attacked for being too

00:48:59.800 ascetic, you know, you flagellate yourself, you fast, you know, that's too ascetic, but it's also

00:49:05.120 attacked for being too luxurious, the gold of St. Peter's, you know, all the ornate iconography and

00:49:10.640 architecture. So, which is it? It's attacked for opposite reasons. It's attacked for being anti-woman,

00:49:17.500 you know, keeping women pumping out kids and, you know, in the kitchen or something, and it's attacked

00:49:21.840 for being too womanly, for only having women show up to mass and the men don't show up as much.

00:49:27.300 So, which is it? Is it misogynistic or is it feminist or, you know, what is it?

00:49:34.040 There are arguments against the Church because they say Catholics worship Mary. Catholics don't

00:49:37.980 worship Mary. They venerate Mary and we ask Mary to pray for us, but we ask Bob down the street to

00:49:42.540 pray for us too, and so does everybody else. It gets knocked for the saints. I would suppose that

00:49:46.900 would be the same idea. Catholic Church gets knocked for pushing a salvation through works theology,

00:49:54.720 but it doesn't, and actually that heresy, which is called the heresy of Pelagius,

00:49:59.980 was condemned by the Catholic Church many, many moons ago, centuries and centuries ago in the very

00:50:04.440 early part of the Church. It's condemned for being founded by Emperor Constantine, you know,

00:50:09.340 centuries after Christ lived. That just isn't true, and you can read the documents of the early

00:50:15.020 Church Fathers and references to the Catholic Church, and you can see that development. You can trace the

00:50:19.900 papacy all the way back to St. Peter, and then Linus, and then all the guys all the way up to

00:50:24.560 Pope Frankie right now. So I don't mean to be flipping here. I do think there are lots of,

00:50:28.840 it's what Jeremy might call the preponderance of false evidence. There are all these little

00:50:33.720 arguments that people make that very successfully turned them away from the Catholic Church, but I

00:50:38.740 just think if you examine any of the arguments specifically, they don't really hold up. Let's

00:50:42.980 take one more question from Hannah. Hi, Michael. I've been unable to avoid hearing about Sarah Everard

00:50:48.220 murder several times a day. She was killed by a man while walking home at night. It sparked a lot

00:50:52.100 of debate surrounding women's safety, and has even made leftists concede the biological differences

00:50:56.180 between men and women. A baroness in the House of the Lords even proposed a 6 p.m. curfew for men.

00:51:01.000 I don't think women should be scared of all men, but just that we should generally be wary of

00:51:04.340 strangers, especially at night. It's clear to me as a young woman that a concealed carry permit

00:51:07.940 would be useful here. I hate living in a country with no Second Amendment. I was wondering what your

00:51:11.540 thoughts are. Much love from the UK. My thoughts are I totally agree. There will be order. There will be

00:51:16.400 rules imposed. It's a fantasy to think we can just all do whatever we want all the time,

00:51:20.860 and that there will be no consequences to licentiousness. So the order will either be

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Ep. 724 - Slipping Farther Down The Slope

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