The Michael Knowles Show

00:00:00.000 We got a big victory for racial and sexual justice yesterday when United Airlines tweeted

00:00:05.700 out, quote, our flight deck should reflect the diverse group of people on board our planes

00:00:11.740 every day. That's why we plan for 50% of the 5,000 pilots we train in the next decade

00:00:17.340 to be women or people of color. This is very important because what they're saying is they're

00:00:21.860 going to be implementing a new reinvigorated affirmative action program for airplane pilots,

00:00:28.960 people whose job it is to shuttle hundreds of people at a time at hundreds of miles per

00:00:34.560 hour through the sky in a tin can. And if they're focusing on race and sex, they're obviously

00:00:40.700 not focusing on the best pilots. That's not purely a meritocracy, but that's okay because

00:00:45.940 it's a matter of racial justice. And I just can foresee it that when that plane, you know,

00:00:52.560 God forbid someday is going down and everyone's screaming, I'm going to be the Nathan Hale of

00:00:57.480 affirmative action. I'm going to say my only regret is that I have but one life to give

00:01:02.080 for diversity, equity, and inclusion. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:15.240 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday, speaking of racially charged matters,

00:01:20.400 comes from Old Schooled, who says there are two possible outcomes that will happen in the streets

00:01:25.440 once the Chauvin verdict is read in the George Floyd case. One, riots, robbing, and burning in

00:01:32.400 anger. Or two, riots, robbing, and burning in celebration. I'm sorry to say, I think you're

00:01:40.980 right. We know that number one is possible. You had a BLM activist say that on TikTok and it went viral

00:01:47.940 saying all hell's going to break loose if you let this guy off or even if he doesn't get the harshest

00:01:53.580 sentence. But also, yes, if it's a celebration, we've seen plenty of celebratory riots over the

00:02:02.620 years. I fear this one will be no different. Nothing says justice quite like burning down

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00:03:29.020 I understand certain arguments for affirmative action in certain areas of society, areas where

00:03:37.440 it, you know, it doesn't really matter that much because there, there is such a thing as historical

00:03:43.260 grievance. There is, we're conservatives. We recognize that the past has some effect on,

00:03:48.920 on the future and on the present. So, you know, I, I can understand it when you get into the

00:03:53.580 particulars of the left's arguments for affirmative action. I think it falls apart, but sure.

00:03:56.720 Some parts of society at the ice cream shop, if there's affirmative action, okay, that doesn't

00:04:02.940 really affect how I eat my mint chocolate chip, right? It's not a big deal. At, uh, oh, I don't

00:04:08.380 know. At the, uh, bus station. You know, it's still, you're still in a moving vehicle, but you know,

00:04:15.440 you're moving kind of slowly. You should, you should be all right. On the airplanes, I really, I,

00:04:22.700 I think you should focus on merit. I think you should just have a rigorous test. I don't know how

00:04:29.540 to fly an airplane. I don't, I wouldn't pass that test. Just a rigorous test to make sure that I

00:04:34.840 don't drop out of the sky in the name of some fashionable leftist idea. But all the corporations

00:04:41.900 are going woke. It's not just United Airlines. It's Delta Airlines, which came out against

00:04:47.960 the voters of Georgia trying to protect their elections. It's Coca-Cola, same issue. It's

00:04:55.340 Major League Baseball. It's Harry's Razors, for goodness sakes, doesn't want to have any

00:05:00.520 relationship with conservatives. They want to take our money, but they hate our guts and they

00:05:03.780 want to badmouth us and say that we're contemptible and inexcusable. It's all these corporations.

00:05:10.240 What do we do about it? There, I think there are three conservative responses. There's the squishiest

00:05:17.440 conservative response, which is, well, you know, we don't want to make this all political and we like

00:05:22.620 their products and we're not going to face any consequences. Take my buddy, Harry's, please.

00:05:26.760 Right. That's the, as you can see, I'm not exactly giving the strongest version of this argument,

00:05:32.260 but I think I'm getting the point across. Then there is the tougher response, which is,

00:05:39.300 they don't want my money. They don't get my money. They want to boycott us. We're going to boycott them.

00:05:43.520 They're going to undermine our politics. We're going to undermine them. That is the argument that

00:05:48.840 Rand Paul is giving out right now. Take a listen. Well, you know, they started it. Major League

00:05:53.340 Baseball wants to boycott the whole state of Georgia, including Atlanta. They've already

00:05:57.640 gotten rid of the all-star game and the draft, and they're doing it because they don't like a

00:06:01.280 Republican law, a law that actually expands voting. It doesn't contract voting. Georgia now has more

00:06:07.520 early voting than New York has. So it's kind of ridiculous. Even the facts don't meet what they're

00:06:13.660 trying to do. But my point is, yeah, if they want to boycott us, why don't we boycott them?

00:06:18.260 This is the only thing that will teach them a lesson. If Coca-Cola wants to only operate in

00:06:23.540 Democrat states and wants only Democrats to drink Coca-Cola, God love them. We'll see how they do

00:06:28.640 when half of the country quits drinking Coca-Cola, when half the country quits using Delta. So the

00:06:34.020 thing is, is they're all woke, but they're really doing something that is against the financial

00:06:38.640 interest of every business. Publicly traded businesses usually don't get involved with politics

00:06:43.180 because it hurts their bottom line to make country unhappy. So good stuff from Senator Paul. I agree.

00:06:49.920 We should definitely not fork our money over to people who hate us. Makes perfect sense. This is

00:06:55.260 kind of the libertarian answer, which is you boycott us. We're going to boycott you. Okay. But there is

00:06:59.340 a further possibility here, which is use the state, which is use politics and the political power we

00:07:09.300 have to, at the very least, deprive these corporations of the special privileges that

00:07:13.940 they've been given. Because whatever we would like to tell ourselves and whatever Republicans have told

00:07:18.920 themselves for 20 years, the free market does not always operate in the freest of ways.

00:07:25.140 And very often big business has a pretty tight relationship to big government. And Delta, for

00:07:31.940 instance, has a pretty tight relationship with the government of Georgia. That's why the Georgia

00:07:35.360 Statehouse right now just voted to revoke some of their special tax incentives and tax breaks that

00:07:41.440 only Delta gets that are not standard tax breaks across the board. That was the right response. If Delta

00:07:48.840 is going to get special treatment from our political system because they bring certain jobs to

00:07:53.880 Georgia or whatever, then when they try to undermine Georgia's election laws, then they need to have

00:07:59.900 that special treatment revoked. We need to get involved politically, not just with our wallets.

00:08:04.040 It's good to get involved with our wallets too, but we also need to get involved politically when

00:08:07.840 these woke corporations are, as Mitch McConnell said yesterday, establishing a parallel government.

00:08:14.680 We need to go in there and prevent them from undermining our politics. No question about it.

00:08:19.720 Senator Paul thinks, I think these days somewhat naively that these woke corporations are really

00:08:27.540 afraid of, you know, get woke, go broke, this really affecting their bottom line. I don't think they

00:08:32.920 are. I don't think they care all that much. Maybe marginally they do. But isn't it weird? We know that

00:08:40.680 people support voter ID. For instance, we know that the vast majority of Americans support voter ID.

00:08:46.080 We know that 70% of black people support voter ID, even though voter ID is being called the new Jim

00:08:51.500 Crow and white supremacist or whatever. And yet, when the people of Georgia, through their elected

00:08:57.200 representatives, pass election integrity laws that call for, among other things, voter ID,

00:09:03.140 the woke corporations all come out against it. Why do they do that? We know that the majority of

00:09:09.240 Americans want to control our southern border. They want not just to dramatically reduce illegal

00:09:14.780 immigration, but they want to dramatically reduce legal immigration as well, according to recent

00:09:19.060 Harvard Harris polls. So you've got the majority of Americans, a huge number of Democrats coming out

00:09:25.020 and saying, we want to protect our border. And yet all the woke corporations are for open borders.

00:09:31.260 Why is that? Well, there, there's obviously a financial incentive, which is that the big corporations

00:09:36.420 get cheap labor from foreign nationals pouring into our country. But as a PR matter, as just pure

00:09:42.600 politics, pure optics, why do they do it? They do it because the radicals have attained what Antonio

00:09:49.460 Gramsci, the brilliant Marxist theorist and communist politician from the 1920s, what he called

00:09:55.980 cultural hegemony. Or they're at least very close to attaining that because the radicals have engaged in

00:10:04.000 what's called a war of position where they've attained influential positions throughout the whole

00:10:08.140 culture, not just in government, but in education and in big business and in big tech and all over

00:10:12.600 the place. And now they are wielding that power. So it doesn't matter. 70% of black people support

00:10:17.280 voter ID. Too bad. We don't. And we're the ones in power. The majority of Americans support dramatically

00:10:25.760 reducing immigration numbers, protecting our border. Too bad. We don't care what you think. We're the

00:10:30.800 ones in power. Who's going to stop us? Where are you going to go? You're going to run out of soda

00:10:36.120 companies. There aren't that many airlines. You're going to stop watching baseball. Maybe we don't care.

00:10:40.700 All the sports are going to do it. That is a political problem. And that will not be solved

00:10:46.100 simply by you putting your wallet away and not giving them your money anymore. It's a good,

00:10:51.520 it's a good place to start, but that's not, not the only place it's going to go. There was a Daily

00:10:55.040 Wire poll that just came out on this. Daily Wire conducted a poll on the MLB asking this question,

00:11:01.720 is what the MLB is doing right now alienating you as a fan? 64% of Americans, including a majority of

00:11:10.700 Delta Airline customers and Coca-Cola consumers told the researchers that they are less likely to

00:11:16.980 support companies and organizations that insert themselves into political issues and debates.

00:11:22.280 70% of all respondents agree with this statement. Corporations and sports teams should generally stay

00:11:28.140 out of politics. Oh, great. Great. Terrific. Or we're going to send that poll now to Coca-Cola and

00:11:33.640 that's going to stop this, right? No, they're not going to stop. I mean, it's, I'm glad that we have

00:11:40.060 these numbers because to me, it just totally puts the political situation into perspective.

00:11:46.400 Where is political opinion in this country? I think political opinion, generally speaking,

00:11:50.640 is with conservatives on a whole lot of issues. But where is political power in this country?

00:11:58.760 Not with conservatives. Political power is with the liberal establishment, which controls everything.

00:12:05.620 Everything. The one carve out, I guess, was talk radio. Talk radio, though, has been declining for

00:12:12.100 a while. So the replacement for talk radio was new media. Who controls new media? Well, conservatives do

00:12:16.140 really well on new media. Thank you to everybody who listens to this show. You've made it a very large

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00:12:30.920 can take Bongino off, can take any of us off in two seconds. They haven't yet, or they've,

00:12:37.760 occasionally they'll do it. You know, they'll punish us. They'll shut down the certain social

00:12:42.180 media platform or they'll kick us off this network. But they're the ones with the political control and

00:12:48.600 what they're trying to do, what they're encouraging all of us to do is to self-censor. Don't go there.

00:12:53.880 Don't say, don't say this. Don't touch the transgender topic. Don't touch immigration.

00:12:57.940 Now, obviously, I'm not going to listen to them, but those conservatives who don't listen to them,

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00:14:27.860 sent you. What's going on in Major League Baseball right now shows you the suddenness and the gravity

00:14:35.100 of this cultural shift. Because Major League Baseball, the irony of course, is they pull the

00:14:41.040 all-star game out of Georgia and bring it to Colorado in the name of racial justice and voting

00:14:46.400 rights. Colorado is a much whiter state and Colorado has more restrictive voting laws than

00:14:52.940 Georgia. But it doesn't, it doesn't matter because Colorado's got a Democrat governor. Georgia's got a

00:14:57.240 Republican governor. The MLB doing this irritates, certainly conservatives, irritates people of all

00:15:06.040 races, irritates baseball fans, and even irritates the ex-commissioner of Major League Baseball,

00:15:13.840 Faye Vincent. So Faye Vincent was the commissioner of Major League Baseball.

00:15:17.520 He just came out strongly against the current commissioner of baseball.

00:15:22.220 Why? So the current, the current commissioner is Robert Manfred.

00:15:27.200 Faye Vincent comes out against him, not just in a little interview like, oh, whoops, you know,

00:15:30.980 he's asked this question. He wasn't ready. He, no, Faye Vincent wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal

00:15:35.560 knowing that all the owners of all the baseball teams are going to be reading that op-ed.

00:15:39.980 And he wrote, quote, the talk shows and editorial pages are full of questions.

00:15:44.760 What is the basis for acting so forcefully against Georgia by Major League Baseball?

00:15:49.600 If Georgia is racist, how can baseball talk of doing business with China?

00:15:54.000 Mr. Manfred failed to spell out specific criticisms of Georgia's voting law. Now he's put himself in the

00:15:59.680 awkward position of having to defend Colorado's voting laws. During my time as commissioner, I learned

00:16:04.920 that the American people view baseball as a public trust. Very important phrase here.

00:16:10.420 They want the game to stand for the best and noblest of our national virtues. They see baseball

00:16:15.980 as the repository of their dreams, even as they root for their favorite teams. They don't want and

00:16:22.040 won't accept anything that separates them from the game's history and leadership. Beautifully well put.

00:16:29.580 And a very important political point here, much broader than just Major League Baseball.

00:16:35.200 Public trust. I love baseball. It's the only sport that I like. It's the only sport that I have ever

00:16:40.780 consistently watched. There is something about baseball that is very American. The history is so

00:16:47.860 rich. You think about these great Americans, Babe Ruth, even a little, Lou Gehrig, a little later,

00:16:53.520 Mickey Mantle. Wow. Oh, the histories, the history of the franchises, how they've changed. You can

00:16:59.800 trace them. The Brooklyn Dodgers. I'm originally a New Yorker. Then they become the LA Dodgers. I lived

00:17:04.120 in LA for a long time. Wow. You can trace that. I collected baseball cards. I've got signed balls.

00:17:08.720 The sport is so cerebral. Sometimes they say that baseball is the only sport you can get fatter while

00:17:13.320 playing because it's a lot of it has to do with what's going on in the brain. It's got all these

00:17:17.160 arcane rules that have developed organically over time. Rules that are rarely invoked. The infield

00:17:23.360 fly rule, for instance. It's got all this, you know, these imperfections. It's not totally

00:17:29.160 standardized. Fenway is different than Yankee Stadium. It's a lot different than the old Yankee

00:17:32.880 Stadium. All the, all the different ballparks are different. Wow. Oh my gosh. How rich, how complex.

00:17:39.780 We love it. It's America's favorite pastime, right? It's America's game. It's about a love of country.

00:17:45.180 And now some woke idiots are ruining it. When, when BLM took over the NFL and Colin Kaepernick made

00:17:57.100 everyone start disrespecting the American flag. One thing I said was, at least it's not happening

00:18:00.940 to baseball. Baseball is going to hold that. Baseball is a conservative sport. And it, and

00:18:06.280 baseball did hold out for a few years. I think there was one schmucky guy who, who took a knee,

00:18:11.140 but the rest stood up. All races, all places. But then baseball started to cave. And it was really,

00:18:17.040 it wasn't even the players. It was the, it was the bureaucrats. It was the administrators of

00:18:22.540 baseball. It was guys like this stupid commissioner, Manfred. Breaking that public trust. Society works

00:18:31.440 when we can trust each other, when we can trust in the institutions that run society,

00:18:38.140 the government institutions and the so-called private institutions, which often aren't all that

00:18:42.040 private. And the traditions, the rituals, cookouts on the 4th of July, the World Series, right? Things

00:18:51.300 that we all do together that are part of our common culture because we're not just individual atoms

00:18:55.800 floating around in the world doing whatever we want. Baseball right now, Major League Baseball

00:19:01.740 is, is breaking that public trust. They are, they, sports generally, but baseball right now in particular.

00:19:08.140 They are doing something that we might say, well, it's a trivial game. Who cares? No,

00:19:13.200 but just tune it out. Those games matter. Those common rituals matter. They always,

00:19:18.440 they always have mattered to the patriotic life of a country. Now we say, what public? What people?

00:19:25.340 What public trust? What, what do we have in common? In America, there's always been this fault line

00:19:31.980 on race in America going back, frankly, going back to, to even Plymouth Colony, you know, going back

00:19:39.280 to the, the English settlers come here and they've got some kind of, at times, very good relationships

00:19:46.220 with the Indians. Then some more difficult relationships. Then there are wars that break out.

00:19:51.520 Then black slaves come here. There, obviously that creates a big racial issue. Then a lot of

00:19:57.440 immigration in the 19th and 20th centuries, that creates certain issues, but there's some

00:20:01.800 assimilation. Okay. That's great. So we, the, there's, there's never really been a common race

00:20:07.840 and race is kind of tricky to pin down. There was a common language. We don't really have that

00:20:13.600 anymore. There was a common religion, broadly speaking. We don't really have that anymore.

00:20:17.740 There were common rituals. We don't really have that anymore. We're not even allowed to go out in

00:20:21.760 public. What rituals? We're not, Joe Biden is saying, maybe we'll let you have a small party

00:20:26.780 on the 4th of July. May, oh, thank you, Joe. Thank you, Dr. Fauci. We're not, we're not allowed

00:20:33.680 to do things together. Public houses, right? That's what a pub is, is a public house. Those are closed.

00:20:39.360 You're not really allowed to go in there. You're not really allowed to hang out at a bar, at least not

00:20:42.300 in a lively way like we used to be able to. Schools, no, those are largely closed. Churches,

00:20:48.300 heavily regulated. What public, what people? We don't even have a border. You're not, you're not

00:20:54.340 even allowed the most basic right as someone, a citizen of a nation. We're not even allowed to say

00:21:00.040 who gets to come in and join the nation. That's called racist or whatever. And the current regime

00:21:06.260 is not even enforcing that most basic law. So for instance, we have these illegal aliens pouring

00:21:13.220 over the border. Two illegal immigrants from Yemen were just arrested by US Customs and Border Protection

00:21:20.800 near Calexico, California. Both men included in the FBI's terrorism watch list and the no-fly list

00:21:28.400 according to CBP. So I'm really glad that these CBP guys were able to catch them. How many more people

00:21:35.360 are pouring over? Not just the poor persecuted, you know, six-year-old babe coming in from Guatemala that

00:21:42.920 that the left wants to pretend constitutes the entire, the entirety of this crisis right now at

00:21:49.540 the border. But grown Yemeni terrorists coming in, we would, we would have no idea in many cases

00:21:57.300 if they were to get through. Thankfully, CBP caught them here. Goodness gracious, there's a video going

00:22:03.440 around the internet right now that shows that Alex Jones, the radio host, is doing possibly a better

00:22:10.720 job at catching illegal aliens than, catching and bringing to consequence illegal aliens than Joe

00:22:17.640 Biden is. This video, I don't really know, take a listen to this video and then I would be curious

00:22:23.540 to know what you think about it. This video of Alex Jones walking around with a camera crew

00:22:27.200 allegedly catches some staffer for some organization loading a bunch of foreign children

00:22:34.540 into the back of an SUV. Take a listen.

00:22:36.660 You got a car seat for them? You got a car seat? That's illegal, bro. Where are you taking

00:22:42.680 these kids? That's illegal. If you get in a traffic accident, those kids are going to get hurt. Where are you taking these kids? You have a car seat? That's illegal. How is this? How is this Christian? Hey, we need the police over here. They got a bunch of kids on their car seat. They're violating Texas law. Who is this right here? Hey, you got no comments. You got those children in there illegally. You're about to run a human being over. You got those children in there. You got those smuggled

00:23:06.440 children illegally. Who are you? Sir? Their seatbelts on. Their seatbelts are even on. Where are you taking these children? Sir, identify yourself. Who are you? Who do you work for? Are you a part of this organization? No, sir. So you don't know where these kids are going? No, no. They came from over there. They're not being checked for COVID. So you don't know who you work for? Call the police. We need to call the police right now. I want to know where these kids are going. You are

00:23:36.280 violating state law. Alex Jones, first of all, one of the greatest broadcasters of our age. You know, he says some things that are pretty out there. But as we'll see, some of the out there things he says actually turn out to be true. But I don't know because I know that Alex Jones is a showman. So I don't know if this video is legit, if he actually caught them. It's kind of weird that he had the whole camera crew with him. But on the flip side of that, the video might be true.

00:24:02.040 It might be real because there are so many illegal aliens being poured, pouring over the border right now. And people are looking the other way very often in our political class. So it seems weird that there's packing these kids in the back of an SUV. They're not really in seats. They're just kind of flooding in there. What is it? I don't know. Was it, was it staged or is it just that there's lots of people crossing the border and Alex Jones is an effective communicator and called people's attention to this?

00:24:29.640 I think it's undeniable that we have this problem at the border. The only reason that the video is plausible is because we all know that this is happening right now. So what is the political class going to do about it? Probably very little.

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00:25:23.860 Very often the political class wants to exacerbate these tensions. Ben's going to be talking about this today. The prosecution against Derek Chauvin, the cop involved in the death of George Floyd. Ben's take is that the prosecution is collapsing.

00:25:36.740 You can check that out on Ben's show. Also, Candace Owens' show streams tomorrow, 9 p.m. Eastern, 8 p.m. Central on dailywire.com. You can also get the audio podcast, Candace, at Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

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00:26:12.980 So my instinct, when I see a big viral Alex Jones moment, whether it's a rant or it's something like this, this immigration issue, I usually think, okay, look, he's a showman. This is over the top. This, no, this can't be true. He said things that aren't true. This can't be true.

00:26:43.980 And then sometimes the liberal elites prove him right. They do. I don't even know if he was right at the time, but the liberal elites end up proving him right. A classic example of this is the gay frogs. Alex Jones famously said, they're turning the frigging frogs gay. And everyone said, how are they turning the frogs gay? And then it turns out there actually was, there was a study done by Yale and the EPA that some chemicals that were being poured into the water in Connecticut were, they were not turning the frogs gay.

00:27:12.860 They were actually turning them trans. They were turning them hermaphroditic. If anything, Alex Jones was, was too reticent to describe what was going on. He was too subdued and modest in his, his diagnosis of the situation.

00:27:27.860 There's another example of this. So there was a clip during the presidential debates, Alex Jones making the allegation that liberal elites get blood transfusions to refresh their dying bodies with the blood of young people. Take a listen.

00:27:45.300 Biden obviously is way plumped up. I would imagine blood transfusions. That's the most, by the way, that's not speculation. That's the most common thing that elites do is blood transfusions. The queen of England, the queen mother, Prince Charles, the Democrats, Joe Biden is not on record doing it, but we know the Clintons do it.

00:28:03.380 We know that Al Gore does it. You know, all this goes on. So the plumping him suddenly look like he gained like five pounds. That's a lot of blood in my experience and the rosy of the cheeks. I mean, he gained, he's been missing like a week. He gained a lot of weight.

00:28:17.020 Uh, and I would imagine methamphetamine as well, but I would imagine it's blood, uh, that he was getting. Uh, that's my expert analysis of that.

00:28:25.000 That's the, the expert analysis, right? Oh, Alex, that's so crazy. What are you talking about? Rich elites get the blood trends. No news week. What are you? News week headline.

00:28:35.080 Can blood from young people, slow aging. Silicon Valley has bet billions that it will.

00:28:41.240 So just to be clear, uh, no, no proof here that, uh, Joe Biden or the Royal family or these people are

00:28:50.060 plumping themselves up on, on the blood of the young, but there is evidence that these rich liberal elites

00:28:56.640 want to take young people's blood and put it in their bodies and presumably plump themselves up with it.

00:29:04.380 Alex, you've got to give the guy credit when he, when he and his sort of over the top manner, I guess,

00:29:11.600 sees something. This seems like a bad idea to me that the putting the blood of young people into old

00:29:19.680 rich people is presumably you're not putting rich young people's blood into rich old people or

00:29:24.980 presumably there's going to be some financial incentive here. So you get paid for your blood or

00:29:28.700 something. So it's just these rich old people buying the blood of poor young people. It seems

00:29:36.100 weird to me. If your entire goal in life is just to extend your physical existence to try to beat

00:29:46.600 mortality. Well, one, it seems like a fool's errand to me, but it's pretty ghoulish. I mean,

00:29:52.140 it's basically the most ghoulish thing I can possibly imagine. And it comes from this state

00:29:59.200 religion that we have, which is secular progressivism, secular materialism, the idea

00:30:04.200 that this is all there is. The physical world, that's all there is. All of our metaphysical

00:30:07.260 hopes and dreams and loves and longings, they're just illusions. When we die, we turn to worm food.

00:30:12.720 We take a dirt nap. I'm going to be talking about this established state church of secular

00:30:18.620 progressivism tonight. I'm going to be giving a speech in Florida, bastion of freedom there.

00:30:25.400 I'm going to be going to Ave Maria University. This is our first speech back since COVID. You know,

00:30:31.060 I do a tour with the Young America's Foundation, tour of campuses. I was supposed to do at least a

00:30:37.400 dozen, if not 20 campuses last year. I think the goal was 10 per semester. So we're going to try to do

00:30:44.160 20, had a ton already on the calendar early on in February, January, February. I'd already done one

00:30:49.740 or two schools and then COVID happened and that shut down all the universities and that was it.

00:30:54.780 And it was over. I have not been on a college campus in 14 months because of COVID. That ends

00:31:03.080 tonight. We will be discussing the perverse secular religion that caused all of that.

00:31:08.980 But this is, this blood transfusions from young people, this is part of a neurotic fear of death

00:31:16.320 that we have. The reason we shut down the country over the Wu flu is because of a neurotic fear of

00:31:20.640 death. We have faced other epidemics in this country, some of them much worse than the coronavirus.

00:31:26.660 We've never shut down the country. We've never canceled all of our holidays. We've never

00:31:30.000 stopped burying our dead and having weddings. And we've never muzzled all of ourselves for years at a

00:31:35.620 time. And we're doing that now because we used to have faith and we used to have courage and we used

00:31:41.040 to have virtues. And we used to recognize that you're not going to defeat germs and death. You

00:31:45.800 can take prudent precautions to protect yourself, but ultimately our bodies are not going to last

00:31:52.140 forever. And now we don't believe that, or we're too terrified to believe that because we don't

00:31:58.180 recognize that, that there is more to life than just breathing. There's more, there, there is more

00:32:04.580 between heaven and earth that is dreamt of in our materialist philosophy. I think finally,

00:32:10.560 some people are waking up. There was a video that went, went viral yesterday of some people in a

00:32:16.820 restaurant. They're sitting around, they're having, having a nice meal and in walk the health

00:32:22.020 inspectors. And the health inspectors want to shut down this business, want to shut down people having

00:32:26.380 a good time. They are the enforcers of the state religion of secular scientific progressivism.

00:32:32.860 And you will comply. You will obey. And the people in the restaurant, they say,

00:32:37.480 no thanks, G-T-F-O.

00:32:41.500 get up! Get up! Get up!

00:33:11.480 Perfect way to handle it. If you couldn't hear at the very beginning, the woman says,

00:33:26.580 hey, so you're trespassing on my property and you need to leave my property right now.

00:33:33.320 Man, the cojones on that woman. If, if even a fraction of the squishy men in this country

00:33:39.780 had the gulions that that lady has, we would be in a much better place as a society.

00:33:45.380 And then all the people in the restaurant, get out, get, this is how all of these health inspectors

00:33:52.000 should be greeted when they walk into private places. I'm not saying we go full Maxine Waters

00:33:58.720 here. I'm not saying you get up on them and you mob them. And I'm not saying we do that.

00:34:03.280 I'm saying that you very forcefully, very confidently, very assertively and determinedly

00:34:09.100 tell them to get out. They are not wanted there. I don't think you should physically

00:34:14.880 intimidate them. I don't think you should mob up on them, but you should be crystal clear.

00:34:21.320 You don't care what they think. I don't, I, I, I'll speak for myself. I don't care what they think.

00:34:26.580 I don't care what the health inspectors think. I don't care what Dr. Fauci thinks. I am not going

00:34:31.380 to abide by their unreasonable guidelines, which more and more would seem to be mandates with the

00:34:37.640 binding force of law, even though they seem to be passed through really bizarre means,

00:34:42.060 not through the traditional constitutional order. And that you're not going to listen to them. If,

00:34:47.980 if even a quarter of the people in this country had the clarity and the courage that those people

00:34:54.260 in that restaurant had, the country would be reopened. But unfortunately, we're in a country

00:35:00.600 with a bunch of neurotics who don't, don't have the same kind of gumption that, that a lot of these

00:35:06.660 people do. This brings me to a slightly tangential point right now, but I do want to address it because

00:35:10.880 I've, I, I see this a lot on the internet. A lot of conservatives get this. What you hear from

00:35:18.960 disingenuous liberals when conservatives and Christians do this sort of thing, and they say,

00:35:24.100 yeah, we're not going to muzzle ourselves forever. We're not going to abide by Dr. Fauci.

00:35:27.540 We're not going to abide by that state religion. They're going to say, you know, you're not very

00:35:31.460 pro-life. You're not very Christian. This isn't very Christian of you. And they'll say, you know,

00:35:36.820 and they'll take like some misstated paraphrasing of Jesus, one line in the gospel, and then use that

00:35:44.740 to try to own the Christian. You know, they'll say, you're not a good Christian. It's always these

00:35:47.620 secular atheists doing it. Very often liberals who, who object to conservative Christians politics

00:35:54.720 will accuse them of not being good Christians. I, I raised this question with them. I've never

00:35:58.840 gotten a good answer, but I think this is the way to, to respond to them. You have to ask them,

00:36:03.660 do you think Christianity is good or bad? And usually what you're going to hear is they're,

00:36:10.120 they're going to say, well, I mean, if they're being honest, at least they'll say, well, yeah,

00:36:14.360 I don't think it's good. Like I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm not Christian, but you, but you,

00:36:18.260 but you're not being a good Christian. You say, okay, well, if you, if you think Christianity

00:36:23.020 is bad and you think that you're a better, a better Christian than me, even though you're

00:36:27.320 not really a Christian, then aren't I better than you? And then that will confuse them for

00:36:31.440 a second. You're going to see like a little twitching or something. And then they might

00:36:34.820 take a different tack. They might say, well, look, you're, I'm not a Christian, but you know,

00:36:39.260 I'm more Christian than you. You're a, you're a bad Christian. You say, okay, do you think

00:36:42.680 Christianity is good? And they'll say, yes. You say, okay, you Christianity is good. Do you

00:36:48.560 practice Christianity? They'll say no. Right. If they're being honest, you say, okay, so you,

00:36:53.860 so Christianity is good, but you don't do it. So you're, you're admitting that you are not pursuing

00:37:00.900 the good. You are not interested in doing the good. So why should I listen to you? Well, uh,

00:37:08.420 and they're going to stammer and they're going to, and it gets to a little bit of,

00:37:13.100 what, what you would call the transcendentals. You know, sometimes you hear people say that we,

00:37:16.700 we want to pursue the good, the true, and the beautiful. There's a relationship between the

00:37:19.800 good, the true, and the beautiful. And unity, by the way, unity is also a transcendental.

00:37:24.680 Now we exalt diversity, but actually unity is, is the transcendental. And these things all

00:37:30.260 have a relationship to one another. The good is beautiful, is true. There is a unity there.

00:37:38.800 However, I think we need to be a little more, uh, confrontational, not physically, not violent.

00:37:48.540 I'm not saying any of that, but we need to know what we believe down to the bottom. We have gotten

00:37:52.440 away in, in the conservative movement for about 20 years on just shallow nonsense on just you do,

00:38:01.180 you just don't make me pay for it. Well, maybe Fauci has a point. If you want to wear the mask,

00:38:04.780 if you want to obey by this, if you want to, we're all separate, we're all different. We have

00:38:08.100 nothing in common. Just let me pursue my own interest or something. No, that, that is not

00:38:12.720 a coherent politics that it, that does not a coherent nation make. We can't do this sort of

00:38:17.660 thing. The political issue, I was talking about this on C-SPAN yesterday. I was on the C-SPAN show,

00:38:22.280 Washington Journal, and some callers called in and called me pompous and offensive and all sorts of

00:38:26.680 things, but I felt we ended up having a pretty good discussion. The political issues have cultural

00:38:34.420 effect, right? They have, they have cultural substance and ultimately this boils down to

00:38:40.580 religion. As Cardinal Manning said, all human conflict is ultimately theological. The high

00:38:46.080 priests of liberalism are Dr. Fauci and all the rest of the, Rachel Levine. So we need to get down to

00:38:53.360 those religious premises. I'm not saying we're going to install a theocracy here. What I'm

00:38:57.360 actually saying is all regimes have religious premises, no matter how much you want to delude

00:39:01.720 yourself. And so when the scientific secular progressives come in and they say, we're going

00:39:08.380 to get rid of religion in society, they don't really get rid of religion. They just replace it

00:39:11.620 with a way wackier, less coherent religion that, that gives us all these sorts of crazy outcomes.

00:39:18.440 Namely, Dr. Rachel Levine, the assistant secretary of health, who is a man who believes

00:39:23.840 that he's a woman. This question came up for Joe Biden in another poll. Voters are apparently split

00:39:29.940 along party lines regarding how religious Joe Biden is. Because Joe Biden, he describes himself

00:39:37.780 as a Catholic, devout Catholic. Oh, all the people around him, he's devout. He's got pictures of the

00:39:43.180 Pope on the dresser behind him when he's giving speeches. And yet he contradicts the faith on very

00:39:50.260 important matters, not just one matter among many, but even on issues such as life, on issues such as

00:39:55.240 the family, on marriage, and, you know, pretty, pretty important stuff. So how, what is his religion?

00:40:02.480 58% of people, according to Pew Research, identify Joe Biden as a Catholic, only the second Catholic

00:40:08.660 president. 31% are unsure of his faith. 6% identify him as Protestant. 3% say he's an atheist. 1% say he

00:40:16.280 adheres to another religion that's not listed. We'll, we'll get into this more tonight. So I don't,

00:40:22.380 I don't want to get too into it, but everyone knew that Kennedy was a Catholic and Kennedy wasn't even

00:40:27.400 a particularly practicing Catholic or particularly observant Catholic. But, but at that time we took

00:40:33.780 religion seriously. So they could identify what his professed religion was and they could identify

00:40:38.800 his, his shortcomings. Today, we don't take religion seriously because we're a much less

00:40:43.380 serious people. And we think that we're beyond religion. And we think that there is such a thing

00:40:47.860 as objective, neutral, scientific progressivism or something that has nothing to do with religion.

00:40:53.800 It's just another religion. And frankly, it's the religion that Joe Biden would seem to adhere to

00:40:57.800 much more so than to his putative Catholic faith. You know, some people say we need to get

00:41:03.100 religion out of politics and we need to get the culture wars out of politics. That's the line

00:41:06.380 from Asa Hutchinson, that squished governor in Arkansas who vetoed a bill that would prevent

00:41:10.820 perverts from pumping little kids full of hormones. We need to stop talking about culture

00:41:14.780 and politics or culture and religion. All that matters, all that matters is culture and religion.

00:41:19.640 I'm not saying we need to have broad debates over how to access the sacraments. That's not what

00:41:24.200 I'm saying at all. I'm saying our public debates are about things that affect our political life,

00:41:28.880 taxes, crime and punishment, parking tickets for goodness sakes. But all of those have philosophical

00:41:35.980 and theological premises below them. And if we're not going to acknowledge that, if we're all going

00:41:40.120 to just pretend like, well, I'm going to follow the science and do what works. We are totally

00:41:45.280 ignoring the point because science is the handmaiden of philosophy and philosophy is the handmaiden

00:41:49.540 of theology. There are a lot of people that are missing the point. There are a lot of people who are

00:41:55.240 not very expert on these questions, especially of religious conflict. Namely, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,

00:42:02.460 who's recently doing an interview. It's part of Congressional Conversations. And she was asked about

00:42:09.320 the conflict in Israel, particularly the conflict with the Palestinian Arabs. Now, the conventional wisdom

00:42:19.240 here was that you could never bring peace to the Middle East if you didn't deal with the question

00:42:25.020 of these Arabs who were in Israel, who were in these disputed territories that some people call

00:42:30.520 Palestine. And that was the key to peace in the Middle East. And Trump said, that's BS. John Kerry's

00:42:35.320 wrong about this. The whole liberal establishment's wrong. We're just going to deal with the Arab

00:42:38.960 countries themselves. And we're not, we're actually just not even going to address the Palestinian

00:42:41.900 issue. And Trump got historic peace deals as a result of that. So now they're revisiting this

00:42:47.880 question. What do you do with the Palestinian conflict? AOC's answer was, I would say, less than

00:42:54.740 articulate. What actions do you think can be taken to support movements towards peace,

00:43:02.620 both between Israelis and Palestinians, as well as within the entire region, such as the Abraham Accords?

00:43:10.460 Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, you know, earlier just now, you and I were, we're, we're talking about the what

00:43:17.240 and the how. Yeah. And I think that when we talk about establishing peace, centering people's

00:43:25.040 humanities, protecting people's rights, it's, it's not just about the what and the, the end goal, which

00:43:32.780 often gets a lot of focus. But I actually think it's much more about the how and the way that

00:43:40.440 we are coming together and how we are, how we interpret that what and how we act in, you know,

00:43:48.300 the actions that we take to get to that what. And so what this really is about is that it's a

00:43:52.260 question more than anything else about process. I can't even, I've now watched this clip several

00:43:58.500 times and I can't get through it without laughing because it is the most blatant example of when the

00:44:05.540 teacher calls on the student and the student hasn't done any of the reading and has just absolutely no

00:44:10.940 idea what the teacher is talking about. So he says, hey, specifically on this issue of Israel and

00:44:16.920 Palestine and the Abraham Accords, and what do you think the path forward is? She goes, yeah, it's

00:44:21.380 really, wow. It's so, it's about, you know, a lot of people are focused on the, the what, you know,

00:44:28.080 but they're not, they're not really focused on the how. And I'm me, I'm more of a how, how girl

00:44:32.700 myself. You know, I know there's a lot of what people out there, but I'm more of a how and don't

00:44:36.920 even get me started on why. Oh, why we could be here all day. It's just really complicated.

00:44:42.000 It reminds me of that, that scene in Always Sunny. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where Charlie,

00:44:48.220 who doesn't know anything, is arguing about the law with the lawyer who went to Harvard. And he goes,

00:44:53.180 well, you know, there's a lot of legal ramific filibuster. You know, he's just kind of using

00:45:00.320 words that don't mean anything in that context. That is what AOC is doing here. And, but she does

00:45:06.660 it with a straight face. She does, because this is the consequence of a really weak educational system.

00:45:16.620 We've all been in class where we didn't do all the reading. We've all been there. We've all been in

00:45:20.160 class where the teacher calls on us and we don't know the answer. And we've all tried

00:45:23.100 to BS it. And if you have had a good education, you will be called out for that. You will not be

00:45:29.020 allowed to get away with that. It will be kind of humiliating. And then you'll know that you got

00:45:32.840 to do the reading next time and you can't just BS your way through life. But so much of our

00:45:36.820 educational system now is just BS. It's actually indoctrinating you into BS. That's what critical

00:45:42.040 race theory is. Critical race theory denies the reality of objective truth. So, you know, if AOC gave

00:45:47.780 that answer in a critical race theory class, they'd say, wow, yeah, snaps. That's really profound.

00:45:52.200 And so she doesn't know it. The woman became a congressman and she, she doesn't know that you

00:45:58.400 shouldn't get away with this kind of BS, how transparent it is. What's so funny about this

00:46:03.100 particular issue, Israel-Palestine, is that she got called out for this BS years ago. One of her first

00:46:08.680 major interviews was on Margaret Hoover's new version of firing line, where she was asked about

00:46:15.360 Israel-Palestine and she gave some crazy answer. And then she got called out on it and she giggled and

00:46:19.840 she said, oh, oopsie-daisy, got called out by teacher. I don't, I'm not the expert on this issue.

00:46:25.080 What people are starting to see, at least in the occupation of Palestine, is just an increasing

00:46:34.020 crisis of humanitarian condition. Do you think you can expand on that?

00:46:38.300 Yeah. I mean, I think I'd also just, I am not the expert on geopolitics on this issue, you know.

00:46:44.000 This is the most true statement AOC has ever said. I am not the expert, period. She could have put a

00:46:50.260 period there. Certainly on geopolitics and certainly, certainly on this issue. We're just saying things.

00:46:57.360 This is what I fear we're doing now in, in, throughout our politics. When United Airlines

00:47:02.800 comes out and says, you know, diversity, equity, we're going to have affirmative action for pilots.

00:47:08.760 So yeah, doesn't that make you feel better when you get in an airline to know that by definition,

00:47:13.220 we are not prioritizing putting the best pilots in your plane? You think, no, what do you, you know

00:47:21.260 what you're supposed to do, right? You know what airplanes are and what the hiring process is and

00:47:26.220 what like safety, you know what, what hiring airline pilots is for, right? Do you know what the purpose

00:47:34.000 of that is? What is the purpose of that? When I hear people say, look, I follow the science. I follow

00:47:40.120 what works. When I hear people say, oh, ignore all those cultural issues or certainly ignore those

00:47:45.040 religious issues. We just want to do what works. Things only work when you know what the purpose of

00:47:52.780 working is, right? The purpose of a lawnmower is to cut grass. So when the lawnmower cuts grass,

00:48:01.480 the lawnmower is working, the purpose of the lawnmower is not to make a chicken dinner,

00:48:09.600 right? If the, if the purpose of the lawnmower were to make a chicken dinner, then when it cuts

00:48:13.840 grass, then it wouldn't be working, right? Because you have to, you work toward a goal. You work

00:48:17.640 toward an end. I talk about this at great length, by the way, in my upcoming book, Speechless,

00:48:20.900 Controlling Words, Controlling Minds. This is why you can't have a scientific politics,

00:48:25.300 no matter what the high priests of progressivism want to tell you. Because politics has a purpose.

00:48:32.960 We, we have a broad purpose outlined in the Declaration of Independence and in the Constitution

00:48:38.480 and a framework established by the Constitution. And then we, the people engage in deliberation

00:48:43.960 and self-government and we determine where we want to go. At least that's the old version of it.

00:48:49.000 Now we've given away a lot of that political power to egghead scientific experts who pretend

00:48:54.220 that it's not even up for debate what we want to do, where we want to go, who we want to be,

00:48:59.140 what we want our national identity to be, what we want all do together. They say it's not up for

00:49:04.060 debate. It's just scientific. And what's the science? It's whatever they say it is. It's whatever

00:49:07.020 they want to do. And we don't, we no longer even possess the rudimentary philosophical or theological

00:49:15.600 sophistication to know what that is. We don't even know what the question is. I'm sorry to say,

00:49:19.720 and I include myself among, among this group. We all kind of sound like AOC. We don't really know

00:49:26.640 what, what we're, what we're aiming at here in our politics. So atrophied have we become in our

00:49:33.060 sense of what, of what politics is. We need to regain that. We're not going to regain that

00:49:37.700 by being wimpy, squishy eggheads who talk about what, what works and deferring to Dr. Fauci and the

00:49:44.380 science. We need to get much, much more serious. The only way we're going to have a serious politics

00:49:50.180 is if we get much more serious about cultural and religious issues. And I can't believe I've got,

00:49:54.660 I've got to give AOC inadvertently the, the point here. We need to know the what,

00:50:00.340 we need to know the how, and most importantly, we need to know the why.

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