The Michael Knowles Show - April 13, 2021


Ep. 741 - When Culture Is Downstream Of Politics


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

168.209

Word Count

8,943

Sentence Count

633

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

Asa Hutchinson continues to argue that preventing perverts from pumping little kids full of cross-sex hormones violates a deep conservative principle. But does he realize that culture can be downstream of politics too? And what does that mean for the future of the Republican Party?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Squish Lib Republican Governor Asa Hutchinson doubled down this week on his argument that
00:00:05.880 preventing perverts from pumping little kids full of cross-sex hormones somehow violates a deep
00:00:12.080 conservative principle. I think it's helpful for our party to have that kind of vigorous debate
00:00:18.220 about an important issue. And to me, this is about the future of our party. Are we going to
00:00:24.820 be a narrow party that expresses ourself in intolerant ways? Are we going to be a broad-based
00:00:32.560 party that shows conservative principles, but also compassion in dealing with some of the most
00:00:38.460 difficult issues that parents face, that individuals face? And at some point, I had to say, I've got to
00:00:46.300 remind my wonderful Republican colleagues that we are the party of Ronald Reagan that believes in a
00:00:53.820 limited role of government. And let's just ask that question. Sure, I sign pro-life bills, and I know
00:01:00.540 that there's a role for government even in the social issues, but we have to fundamentally ask
00:01:05.680 ourselves, do we need to do this? Is there a better way? Is this something that we need to leave to the
00:01:11.440 hand in the home or in the church, our faith leaders to handle? Is this calling out for a government
00:01:17.540 solution? Do we need to pass laws to protect little kids from being pumped full of hormones by perverts?
00:01:23.220 Or can we just do it in the home, in the society, in the culture? In other words,
00:01:30.420 politics is downstream of culture. How often have we all heard that? How often have we all said that?
00:01:36.980 But does Asa Hutchinson not realize that culture can be downstream of politics too?
00:01:41.980 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:52.000 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from Sagan Sagita, who says,
00:01:56.520 I wish Brian Stelter would show the same enthusiasm for voter ID that he shows for the vaccine passports.
00:02:03.300 Show me your ID or you cannot vote. I know, wouldn't that be so great? It kind of gives away the game
00:02:08.620 when you realize that the same left-wingers who are saying that it's racist and bigoted and outrageous
00:02:12.940 and terrible to demand that people get ID to vote are demanding that people get ID to go into a bar
00:02:19.340 or into a restaurant. Things that affect their daily lives multiple times a day. Obviously,
00:02:26.260 the call for a COVID passport much more onerous than getting an ID just right before you go vote so you
00:02:33.840 can go and prove that you are who you say you are. But it's not, it's not about that at all. This is
00:02:38.340 just about grabbing political power, not just cultural power. They have that. We'll touch on
00:02:42.780 that too. Not just social power, but political power, which Republicans have been ignoring for way
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00:04:16.760 Sure. Sure. Yes. What did Andrew Breitbart, the patron saint of Hollywood conservatives,
00:04:24.440 what did he mean when he said that? He meant that the entertainment industry influences a lot of our
00:04:30.700 political discussion. It's a pretty straightforward point. Breitbart put it in this great memorable
00:04:38.420 way, but that's what he's saying. He's saying the entertainment industry affects a lot of our
00:04:42.240 political thinking. So conservatives need to amass and wield cultural power. Yeah, totally. Of course.
00:04:48.980 But does that mean that policies, that law, that our political institutions have no effect on our
00:04:55.480 culture? That's just preposterous. I don't think that Andrew Breitbart thought that. First of all,
00:05:00.360 it's very difficult to have a neat and tidy distinction between politics and culture to begin
00:05:04.720 with. When our reality TV star, former president got elected, was he a cultural figure or a political
00:05:13.000 figure? When big technology companies that run the social media outside of the government, when they
00:05:18.960 censor the duly elected president, are they, are they behaving in a cultural or a political way?
00:05:23.780 Obviously it's a little bit of both because both culture and politics refers to, they, they both refer
00:05:29.660 to how we all get along together. Does, does culture get impacted by politics? Yeah, of course.
00:05:37.300 Look at East Germany. So right East Germany right now is mostly atheist. Okay. More than 50% of East
00:05:46.260 Germans are atheists. Only 10% of West Germans are atheist. Does culture explain this? Is it because of
00:05:54.700 regional variations in Bratwurst that you have a huge disparity in religiosity? Uh, no, I think it,
00:06:00.420 it has to do with politics. I think it's because East Germany was dominated by the officially atheist
00:06:06.160 Soviet union for decades, which pursued a ruthless policy of stamping out Christianity. And that had
00:06:11.740 cultural effects. Even after the East German government went away, even the most ardent disciples
00:06:17.460 of the Breitbart doctrine on the right, the ones who say, no government can never do anything. We can never
00:06:22.040 interact through our political institutions to affect what we want. It's only got to be cultural
00:06:26.600 because politics is downstream of culture. If you ask those people, Hey, do you think the great society
00:06:33.620 programs in the sixties affected the black family? They will all tell you, yes, of course it was
00:06:39.320 terrible. Lyndon Johnson and the great society destroyed the black family. Okay. Well that would
00:06:43.380 seem to be an example of culture being downstream of politics. Breitbart made a very good point.
00:06:50.860 He's, he's right. Conservatives need to amass and wield cultural power, but squish politicians
00:06:55.900 are now exploiting Breitbart's argument as an excuse for not doing their own jobs in the political
00:07:01.800 sphere. I didn't, well, I didn't elect Asa Hutchinson into everything, but Asa Hutchinson's
00:07:05.840 constituents didn't elect him to be the head of a film studio or the pastor of a church.
00:07:10.240 They elected him to be the governor so he can do conservative things and effect conservative
00:07:14.900 policies. And he's just not doing it. Fortunately, some other States are taking their role seriously,
00:07:20.460 Montana and Ohio are now in their Republican led legislatures, placing restrictions on the
00:07:27.620 ability of people to obtain abortion pills through the mail. This is very good stuff. I'm very good.
00:07:34.420 We, we mentioned the first time Asa Hutchinson brought up his ridiculous Reagan Buckley point,
00:07:39.580 the limited government point. I said, if keeping kids from being castrated does not fall within the
00:07:46.180 legitimate limits of government, then what does, then the government is going to be the size of an
00:07:50.540 atom, right? There's no, there's no, the limits are going to be so small. Nothing fits inside it.
00:07:55.780 Here is another example of a good mandate, of a good regulation, of a good time to outlaw something
00:08:05.660 because increasingly people can order abortion pills online. They don't really even need to
00:08:15.100 consult a medical doctor. So, right, but that's not my primary concern. My primary concern here is
00:08:20.220 that babies are being killed with, with the tacit and sometimes explicit approval of the law.
00:08:26.820 But a secondary effect here is that women are taking these drugs without medical advice. So it
00:08:32.260 could hurt them as well. This is a good opportunity for the government to step in and say, no, you're
00:08:39.100 not allowed to do that. But Michael, doesn't this constrict your freedom? No, it certainly doesn't
00:08:43.420 constrict the baby's freedom, but no, that's not, that's not what freedom is. We've talked about it a
00:08:50.780 lot on this show, that liberty and licentiousness are not the same thing. They're actually polar opposites.
00:08:56.460 And it has been a trick of the left of political correctness to conflate the two things. I talk
00:09:03.200 about this at great length in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds,
00:09:07.060 available now for pre-order. You can also pre-order a signed autographed first edition copy.
00:09:12.820 Just wanted to mention that, just wanted to throw that out there.
00:09:15.920 They're not the same thing. And even when we discuss our will, our ability to pursue our will,
00:09:21.360 I think we got to get a little more specific about this. I often use the example of the heroin
00:09:26.460 addict. When the heroin addict wants to go shoot up heroin and then a bunch of squish liberal
00:09:31.900 politicians who sometimes pretend they're Republicans say, oh yes, in the name of freedom,
00:09:36.040 we got to let the heroin addict shoot up heroin. Is he pursuing his will? Kind of, but not. He's
00:09:43.940 pursuing his lower will. He's pursuing his appetite, his desire. He's not pursuing his rational will.
00:09:49.700 We all know this, right? St. Paul writes about this where he says, the things I want to do,
00:09:53.320 I don't do. And the things I don't want to do, I do do. What does that mean? It means that I've
00:09:58.740 got certain passions that rationally I know are bad. And so at the level of my intellect,
00:10:04.260 I don't want to do them. But my flesh, because we're all kind of fleshy creatures, my flesh does
00:10:09.720 want to do them. And so I need to train my will to stop my flesh from pursuing these things.
00:10:14.700 That is called liberal education. That is called attaining liberty and virtue. We all used to know
00:10:20.960 this in this country. The founding fathers wrote about it at length, but we don't seem to get that
00:10:26.200 anymore because we've got this atrophied shallow understanding of liberty and culture and politics.
00:10:33.760 I'll give you another example of the culture. The culture here that seems to act a lot like
00:10:40.340 the political sphere, like what Mitch McConnell has called a parallel government. More than 100
00:10:48.080 corporate leaders met over the weekend to plot out their opposition to voter integrity laws across
00:10:55.020 the United States. This includes, this according to CBS News, leaders from American Airlines,
00:11:02.420 United Airlines, Levi Strauss, Walmart, Viacom, Aerial Investments, LinkedIn, Twitter,
00:11:08.400 AMC movie theaters. They're still around. I'm shocked. And others were invited to this left-wing
00:11:14.100 cultural private sector event for some of the most powerful entities in the United States,
00:11:20.880 publicly traded entities in a lot of cases, to undermine our election integrity laws, to undermine
00:11:29.360 our constitutional republic. Should we just say, okay, well, that's the culture. Throw our hands up.
00:11:36.160 We just need to write better books or something. No, of course not. I am all for, don't get me wrong.
00:11:44.160 I am all for a thriving, broadly protected private sector where people broadly get to
00:11:52.640 act without too much impediment from the federal government. But there are limits here. We're talking
00:11:59.920 about limited government, limited, we're talking about true liberty here, which has limits. When
00:12:07.900 these woke companies are putting their immense amount of cultural and political power, they all
00:12:16.300 got lobbyists and they all, these lines blur together a lot. When they are putting that at the
00:12:20.320 service of undermining our political system, undermining the will of the people of Georgia through
00:12:27.500 their elected representatives to pass some election integrity laws, which by the way, we had across
00:12:33.380 this country before they were weakened by the 2020 election. In some cases, explicitly violating
00:12:39.100 state constitutions to make it easier for Democrats to get votes. When those companies do that, then I
00:12:45.540 don't think we should protect them. I don't think that we need to suck up to big corporate America
00:12:49.480 like some misguided Republicans have done for the last 20 years.
00:12:53.460 I think we need to wield cultural power. Sure. Stop buying Harry's razors if you don't like how much
00:12:58.760 they hate your guts. Okay. Also, we need to wield political power. We need to take these tax breaks
00:13:04.720 away from Delta like they get in Georgia. We need to maybe take even more aggressive measures at the
00:13:11.820 political level on some of these companies. I do not want to be governed by a bunch of woke lunatics
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00:14:39.300 Corporate America colluding to undermine our political process and our constitutional order.
00:14:46.360 That is not good. However, I do have some good news for those who want to weaken
00:14:51.380 certain woke aspects of corporate America. At least one liberal corporation is not doing very well.
00:14:58.040 That would be GoodPillow. Now, GoodPillow, it's not, I guess it's legally a company. It isn't doing
00:15:03.400 anything yet. GoodPillow was the liberal pillow company that David Hogg, the activist, and some
00:15:13.380 other guy whose name I forget, but I actually met him one time. But anyway, I forget him. He's like a
00:15:17.320 Twitter left-wing troll guy. They came together and they formed this pillow company. And they just
00:15:23.100 talked, they said, this is so great. We're going to put Mike Lindell out of business. We're going to,
00:15:27.020 we hate MyPillow. It's too conservative. Some of us called, called to the new liberal version of
00:15:32.540 MyPillow, NowPillow, or OurPillow is another one for the real reds out there. But anyway,
00:15:38.480 it's collapsing. So David Hogg tweets out, quote, effective immediately, I have resigned and released
00:15:44.660 all shares, any ownership, and any control of GoodPillow, LLC. I want to thank his partnership.
00:15:51.440 I assume he's referring to this guy whose name I forget, and wish absolutely nothing but success
00:15:56.940 with the future of GoodPillow. So he's resigning all of his shares. And it turns out, I did the
00:16:02.240 calculations, all of David Hogg's shares of GoodPillow plus $29.98 will get you one premium queen-sized
00:16:12.620 MyPillow, which is great. That's good news for him if he finds the $29.98. This whole fiasco
00:16:17.900 is representative of David's political affiliation and also of his generation.
00:16:28.440 They all want the semblance of the thing, but they don't want the thing itself. They all want the
00:16:34.920 adulation. They want the nice write-ups. They want to be told they're doing great work.
00:16:41.120 They're, they're brilliant. They're leading the country. They're bringing us out of our age of
00:16:45.260 darkness, but they don't know anything. The fact that the left often relies on young people,
00:16:55.420 not just even young people as spokesmen, but young people to go out and vote at college campuses.
00:17:01.340 And they're always trying to lower the voting age. The fact that they're relying on people who by
00:17:05.080 definition are more ignorant than older people, more educated people, shows you this. They don't
00:17:11.600 know very much. They're just full of passionate intensity and desire. They haven't cultivated their
00:17:18.940 higher will and their intellect. They've only exercised their lower wills and their desires
00:17:25.380 and their appetites. And they get really angry and really wrathful and really impetuous. But
00:17:29.540 sometimes it all goes down in flames.
00:17:33.000 these young, very young activists should be in school, right? Guys like, why is David trying
00:17:42.500 to start a pillow company right now? When isn't he, isn't he in college? He should be doing that.
00:17:46.440 That's a better, that's, I'm not saying like I'm scolding him. You need to go back to class. I'm
00:17:50.080 just saying it's a better use of his time than whatever fake pillow company. Some liberal activists
00:17:54.380 are trying to use him to start. These people should be in school. But one of the reasons that
00:18:02.160 they're not, I suppose, is that the quality of education has plummeted in this country. There's
00:18:06.580 a newly released video of a teacher from the San Marco Unified School District. This is in
00:18:11.580 California. You'll be shocked to hear him yelling at her students over distance learning and other
00:18:17.820 issues. This was, this was posted to Facebook. Apparently it's a common occurrence. Take a listen to
00:18:23.320 what your children are being taught in the virtual classroom.
00:18:25.980 My question is, in this case, where is the white student union? Because, because we need
00:18:31.840 all racial equality. You need a white student union, Jake. You get everything.
00:18:35.740 If your parent wants to talk to me about their profession and their opinion on their profession,
00:18:43.780 I would love to hear that. I know very little about anything else in the world other than education.
00:18:49.280 Okay? However, if your parent wants to come talk to me about how I'm not doing a good enough job in
00:18:58.900 distance learning based on what you need as an individual, just dare them to come at me.
00:19:06.360 Because I'm so sick to my stomach of parents trying to tell educators how to do their job.
00:19:14.440 I have never once gone to a doctor's appointment and tried to tell my medical health provider how
00:19:20.000 to treat me. You know why? Because I know nothing about that. I didn't get my degree in medicine.
00:19:26.300 I know nothing about that. I know very little about anything in the world that those are true
00:19:31.260 statements, I would suspect. Not the sort of thing you want to hear your kid's teacher say.
00:19:35.660 Look, I know very little about anything in the world other than education.
00:19:41.960 You see the problem, right? Education is an instrument to convey all that other knowledge
00:19:51.480 you know about everything in the world to a student, right? You're supposed to know a lot of things
00:19:56.240 like, you know, dates and battles and books. You're supposed to know all that. And then education
00:20:04.500 is the process by which you convey all of that knowledge, which this woman admits she doesn't
00:20:09.680 have to a student, which is why she doesn't do it very well. She also doesn't seem to be
00:20:13.680 particularly talented at the education part of it, right? If you're screaming at students and you're
00:20:19.620 parroting a typical left-wing racialist line that we need to have racial grievance groups and racial
00:20:25.740 unions for every racial group, except for white people, the awful, terrible white people.
00:20:31.280 And then to, to make this point about education that is so elementary, but she just doesn't
00:20:38.180 understand it, which is, she says, your parents have no role in your education. I, crazy, ignorant lady,
00:20:45.460 I am going to be your educator. I, who haven't cultivated my upper will and intellect,
00:20:52.460 I, who am given away to wrath and invective, I will educate you. And how dare your parents suggest
00:20:59.340 they have any say in it. But of course the family is the first place that education happens.
00:21:04.820 I'm not just talking about for homeschoolers or people who have some very solid view of the world.
00:21:10.060 I'm saying for everybody, the best lessons you ever learned in your life,
00:21:14.520 really the enduring lessons that you learned. Maybe some you learned in school. I learned some great
00:21:20.340 lessons in school, but really those enduring lessons that have really shaped my life beyond
00:21:27.160 even the technical aspects of learning how to write, learning how to read history.
00:21:32.360 The ones that really shape how you are educated, meaning the whole person, the way you are raised
00:21:36.780 up. Where did you learn those? You learn those at home, of course. And parents ought to have some
00:21:44.260 say in their child's education. This was one of the premises of William F. Buckley Jr.'s famous book
00:21:49.360 that launched the post-war conservative movement, God and Man at Yale. That parents, trustees,
00:21:54.900 people outside of the education system ought to exert power on that education system.
00:22:01.980 Is that going to be a cultural power or political power? We're talking about a public school here.
00:22:08.260 So it would seem that you got to, it's a little bit of both, isn't it? Certainly, whatever parents are
00:22:13.940 living in the school district ought to exert a lot of political power to make sure that their students
00:22:19.480 aren't being educated by people like this crazy lady. How are the teachers getting away with it?
00:22:24.580 The teachers are getting away with this sort of thing because of, of the lockdowns because
00:22:30.020 they're, they're now, they get to teach from distance learning and they have a lock on these
00:22:36.360 kids. They've clearly gone a little bit kookier than usual even. And they're just sitting in their
00:22:41.060 homes saying and spatting off on whatever they want. And Dr. Fauci says, absolutely no end in sight.
00:22:48.600 Eating and drinking indoors in restaurants and bars. Is that okay now?
00:22:54.780 No, it's still not okay for the simple reason that the level of infection, the dynamics of infection
00:23:00.180 in the community are still really disturbingly high. Like just yesterday, there were close to 80,000 new
00:23:08.460 infections and we've been hanging around 60, 70, 75,000. So if you're not vaccinated, please get
00:23:17.680 vaccinated as soon as vaccine becomes available to you. And if you are vaccinated, please remember
00:23:24.700 that you still have to be careful and not get involved in crowded situations, particularly indoors where
00:23:32.320 people are not wearing masks. So you get the vaccine, but you can't change the lockdown behavior
00:23:40.600 at all. And I can't, this is, by the way, this is a little bit of a side point. Does it sound like
00:23:46.140 Dr. Fauci has been moderating his accent a little bit? Does it sound like he's, maybe I'm just crazy
00:23:52.200 here. It sounds, to me, it sounds like he's tamping down the accent because when he's ordinarily on TV,
00:23:56.660 it's, you know, well, listen here, you, I'm Dr. Fauci. And, but it's actually sounds like he's,
00:24:02.880 I don't know if I'm not saying he's heard my impression of him. Okay. I'm not saying that.
00:24:07.460 I'm just, I'm just wondering, I'm just asking questions. Okay. I've been asking questions
00:24:12.120 about coronavirus from the very beginning. And I've been asking questions specifically about the
00:24:16.360 wisdom of these stupid lockdown policies that I have been ignoring as best I possibly can,
00:24:21.220 other than when I occasionally have to fly on an airplane. And I said from the very beginning,
00:24:26.260 they're not going to let this up. It's not two weeks to slow the spread. It's not a month. It's
00:24:30.360 not two months. It's going to just go on until we take that power back from them. How are we going
00:24:34.380 to take the power back? Are we going to take the power back by just walking into bars with our masks
00:24:38.800 off? In some cases, maybe in some cases you don't want to get the owners in trouble. Okay. That's
00:24:43.160 cultural power. Or are we going to exert political power and mandate that power hungry technocrats like
00:24:52.180 Dr. Fauci should never be able to amass the kind of power that they have? Probably we need a little
00:24:58.360 bit of both. Now there is one cultural issue where I think you really can help yourself.
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00:25:18.780 gimmicks. So Tuesday, you know, it's 30% up and then Wednesday it's 20% down. No, not at all. It's
00:25:24.180 always reliable and they will always give you the best prices. All right. Why would you go into the
00:25:29.760 brick and mortar store and spend up to twice as much for the same parts? If you need, for instance,
00:25:34.800 this is just off the top of my head, a Delphi FG1456 fuel pump assembly for, I don't know, let's say
00:25:39.660 a 2005 to 2010 Honda Odyssey. And let's say costs, I'm spitballing, $354 at a big chain store. That's the
00:25:46.820 sort of thing. Rockauto.com will give you for 217 bucks. Do not spend money needlessly. Do not
00:25:52.780 humiliate yourself by going into that store and not having answers to all those questions they have.
00:25:57.240 Rockauto.com, great family business. The website is so easy to navigate. Even I can do it. That is
00:26:03.920 very impressive. Go to rockauto.com right now, see all the parts available for your car or truck.
00:26:08.380 Then write Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S in their how did you hear about us box so that they know that we sent you.
00:26:14.540 Also, make sure that you check out Ben Shapiro's show because Ben is going to be talking about
00:26:20.580 the next riot in Minneapolis. You, me, and the next riot. They just, this probably,
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00:27:20.300 Dr. Fauci is clearly attempting to hold the lockdowns over everybody until a sufficient number
00:27:41.600 of people, in his estimation, get vaccinated. That's clearly the point, right? He's sort of
00:27:47.260 admitted this. He's said, well, you know, look, the percentages, maybe I'll bump it up a little
00:27:51.700 bit, bump it down a little bit, because we're just trying to get, sorry. Well, look, maybe we're
00:27:56.660 going to bump the percentages up a little bit or down a little bit, but we're just trying to get
00:28:00.620 everybody vaccinated. That sort of thing. I'm paraphrasing him here. But by the way, that is
00:28:05.660 his job. If you buy into the cult of public health, you recognize that the progressive vision
00:28:15.000 here is we will be governed by a panel of experts who possess the science, capital S, trademark over
00:28:20.820 the E, and the political power, public, politics, science, or health, rather, science. So the political
00:28:29.540 aspect here is that Fauci is trying to persuade people and lead people to doing what he wants them
00:28:33.700 to do. A lot of this involves getting the vaccine, but they're having a little bit of trouble getting
00:28:39.220 the vaccine. Jen Psaki is focusing in her recent press conference on trouble getting evangelical
00:28:47.000 white voters to take the vaccine. You know, that awful group of people, worst people in this whole
00:28:53.600 country, if you ask me. Jen Psaki is very upset that white evangelicals won't get the vaccine. And
00:29:00.620 so she was asked how they're trying to remedy this situation. And she has a simple answer.
00:29:05.540 They're just going to start advertising on NASCAR. We're also investing $3 billion to states and
00:29:10.900 community-based organizations to strengthen vaccine confidence in the highest risk and hardest hit
00:29:15.520 communities. And often people think of that as just black and brown communities. And that is not.
00:29:20.480 As you've noted, that is also conservative communities, white evangelicals. It's a range of
00:29:25.080 communities around the country. What we found to be most effective is to work with these local
00:29:30.060 organizations. So faith-based organizations, community health organizations, civic leaders,
00:29:35.040 and others who can really get this message deeply in communities. We've also had a number of our
00:29:40.800 members of our COVID team from Dr. Fauci and Dr. Collins participate, as an example, participate
00:29:49.180 in a range of media interviews. You know, an example is Dr. Collins participated in the 700 Club.
00:29:55.020 Dr. Nunez-Smith hosted a Faith Leaders Roundtable. We're also looking for, we've run PSAs on The Deadliest
00:30:01.460 Catch. We're engaged with NASCAR and Country Music TV. We're looking for a range of creative ways to
00:30:07.000 get directly connected to white conservative communities. We won't always be the best messengers,
00:30:12.760 but we're still trying to meet people where they are.
00:30:15.260 Okay, so she's putting this on with a real sincere straight face. She's saying, look, we're just,
00:30:20.420 we're trying to reach these white evangelicals. And she ignores the fact that similar rates of black
00:30:26.500 Americans are not getting the vaccine as white evangelical Americans. She's kind of,
00:30:31.120 she's brushing that to the side. She's like, these white evangelicals, and we're, we're trying to
00:30:34.360 reach out to them where they are, you know, in their culture. So we're, we're advertising on
00:30:38.520 The Deadliest Catch. You know, we're advertising on NASCAR. And so we're just doing our best. This is
00:30:46.520 obviously a dig at white conservatives. She, do you think that she would say,
00:30:51.980 if she were to address these similar rates of reluctance to get the vaccine among black people,
00:30:57.400 do you think she would say, you know, we're trying to reach black people by advertising in
00:31:02.380 gangster rap and Tyler Perry movies? And so we're just, we were just trying to meet them where they
00:31:07.620 are. No, of course not. She, not, not, by the way, not because black people don't listen to rap music
00:31:13.600 and not because white people don't watch The Deadliest Catch or whatever, or NASCAR, but because the
00:31:18.420 specificity here would be designed to create a caricature. And that's obviously what she's
00:31:22.660 doing here. It's just, it's a slightly subtle dig. So kudos to Jen Psaki, who's usually rather
00:31:27.800 unsubtle for, for using a bit of subtlety, but it's, it's creating a caricature of culture.
00:31:35.060 The implication, of course, that it's completely insane for these white evangelicals to be reluctant
00:31:41.200 to get a vaccine or to make a risk assessment over the vaccine, completely ridiculous.
00:31:45.260 Uh, and we know better here in the Biden administration and we have the science,
00:31:49.900 you know, with the capital S and everything. So now we're going to convince you to do it.
00:31:54.320 Maybe hear me out. Maybe these groups of people, the black Americans who are reluctant to get it
00:31:59.840 and the white evangelicals, maybe they're making a risk calculation and they're saying, well, my risk
00:32:05.440 depends who you are. If you're elderly or if you're fat, then you might, you might have a greater risk
00:32:10.520 from COVID itself. But if you're, let's say you're relatively healthy, you're relatively thin,
00:32:14.880 and you're relatively young, your, your risk from COVID is pretty low. And you're saying,
00:32:19.720 okay, well, I just, I'm not saying the vaccine is poisonous. I'm not saying the vaccine is going
00:32:23.920 to kill me. I'm not saying it's going to pump me full of 4G, 5G and make my telephone, you know,
00:32:27.920 service much better or whatever other theories you're reading on the internet. Just saying,
00:32:32.140 I don't, I don't really need it. I think it was just this morning, didn't I read somewhere that
00:32:37.000 one of the vaccines is now being recalled Johnson and Johnson vaccine, I believe, because it's
00:32:43.740 causing a very small number of people, but still enough people that they're taking some steps here
00:32:49.580 to deal with it, a blood clotting issue in women. Okay. Well, maybe that means that people have some
00:32:58.000 right to be a little bit skeptical or a little reluctant. I'm not saying across the board. I'm
00:33:02.960 not, I'm not anti-vax. Don't call me anti-vax. I'm just saying, if I'm a healthy young guy,
00:33:10.640 why do I need to worry about this? Well, because Dr. Fauci told me to.
00:33:14.000 And because I'm watching the deadliest catch and they told me, they told me to in the commercials
00:33:17.840 as well. Those white evangelicals, those white people, they drive me crazy. Speaking of racial
00:33:26.600 tensions, there is more riding going on back somehow in Minnesota. Why is this? Because of
00:33:34.480 a shooting, an officer involved shooting of Dante Wright, who, well, I'll tell you what,
00:33:40.920 just take a listen to the footage and you can see what happened because it seems to be a whole mess
00:33:44.720 of a situation. So Dante Wright, this guy being arrested outside of his car, they got him in the
00:33:53.700 cuffs and then he breaks away and he jumps in his, in his car. He gets back in his car. He's resist,
00:33:57.720 obviously resisting arrest. Who knows? Is he reaching for some weapon or something like that?
00:34:02.080 He's trying to drive off. Now this woman pulls her gun out, screams taser.
00:34:10.460 He drives off, but you hear her say, I just shot him. So what happened?
00:34:17.720 The woman didn't reach for her taser. Maybe she thought she did. She seemed to think that she did,
00:34:21.980 but she grabbed her pistol and then shot this dude in the car.
00:34:27.540 So it doesn't sound like she did it intentionally because he drives away and she says, oh my goodness,
00:34:33.500 oh my gosh, what just happened? I shot him. Also, this guy was resisting arrest. He was
00:34:41.540 being arrested for a weapons charge and, and escaping police before he was then killed,
00:34:48.120 which is now sparking more BLM race rioting and looting. The criminal complaint says he had an
00:34:54.020 illegal Ruger 45 pistol and then he skipped his court date. Do we need to totally defend this woman cop?
00:35:04.380 No, I, it, it seems that she was quite inept here. Really, regardless of the weapons charge or skipping
00:35:12.160 arrest, you should not be grabbing a pistol and shooting a guy when you think that it's a taser,
00:35:20.500 when you, right, that doesn't, if she'd shot him with the taser, I think totally, totally fine. But
00:35:24.960 that, that seems like a big, big mistake. And when life and death is on the line, you can't,
00:35:28.840 can't tolerate that. Also, you shouldn't resist arrest and you shouldn't skip your court date for
00:35:35.260 your weapons charge. And cops who are under attack in this country have some right to arrest criminals
00:35:43.380 and to protect themselves when these guys try to get away. Horrible situation all around for
00:35:51.200 everybody involved. The guy should not have died at this traffic stop, at least, at least given what
00:35:57.900 we know about this traffic stop at the moment that he died, that should not have happened. Also,
00:36:03.060 if he had not resisted arrest, it would not have happened. Okay. That's, I think, as reasonable a
00:36:09.180 take on the shooting as you can possibly have. So now Minnesota is going up in flames. Again,
00:36:15.660 Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey has declared a state of emergency in the city. Together with the St.
00:36:21.920 Paul Mayor, Melvin Carter, has announced a curfew starting at 7 p.m. as the city braces for further
00:36:27.400 riots following this shooting. The National Guard was called out Sunday night to help keep the peace
00:36:33.940 and is likely to assist Minneapolis and Brooklyn Center law enforcement Monday night.
00:36:39.660 If I were the mayor of Minneapolis or St. Paul, nobody has elected me to that position. It seems
00:36:46.160 like a pretty blue place. So something tells me I would not be elected there. My solution to this
00:36:52.220 would be, yep, call in the National Guard, institute a curfew, and then anybody who riots gets arrested
00:36:59.360 and goes to prison for a very long time. And then when you have arrested all of these rioters,
00:37:07.620 one, you, or even a good percentage of the rioters, you deter further rioting, which these feckless people
00:37:16.040 did not do last year when BLM torched the city for the first time in recent memory. They didn't do that,
00:37:21.740 so they encouraged more of this violence. But also, when you, when you put enough of the rioters in
00:37:27.340 prison, you don't have any more rioters. Now we are told we have an over-incarceration problem in
00:37:34.240 the United States. As long as cities are being torched, I don't think we have an over-incarceration
00:37:39.860 problem. I think, as, as Senator Tom Cotton pointed out the other day, we have an under-incarceration
00:37:47.120 problem because we got all these criminals who are torching the cities and burning people's private
00:37:53.860 businesses and private homes. It's the cultural side and burning government buildings. That's the
00:37:59.520 political side. And we're not just going to have a cultural response and, you know, persuade people
00:38:04.720 through our local civic organizations like the Lions Club. You can do that too. That's helpful.
00:38:09.540 And make better movies and have cultural institutions. Yeah, go ahead, do that. Also, you need a political
00:38:16.500 response from the government. The left doesn't want to do that, though. The left doesn't really want to
00:38:23.020 tamp down the violence. That's why they've encouraged it. That's why Kamala Harris last year bailed these
00:38:28.780 criminals out of prison. She raised money to bail the criminal rioters out of prison, out of jail.
00:38:34.240 They don't want to tamp this stuff down because the left thrives on crises. And the other strategy that
00:38:42.120 the left relies on is the redefinition of words. Bernie Sanders showing this just the other day.
00:38:47.460 So this all began because Kirsten Gillibrand, the not very successful Democrat candidate for president,
00:38:54.820 senator from New York, she tweeted out, quote, paid leave is infrastructure. Child care is
00:39:01.560 infrastructure. Caregiving is infrastructure. Now, of course, those sentences don't mean anything
00:39:09.380 because none of them is true. You could just say, you'd say like, apples, apple is love. Television is
00:39:22.040 up. Purple is seven, right? You're, I know you're saying words and they seem to, they got the noun
00:39:31.920 and the verb, but they don't mean anything. Bernie Sanders picking up on this theme from Kirsten
00:39:37.220 Gillibrand is also radically redefining the word infrastructure. You've got to take a broad look
00:39:42.560 at what infrastructure means, human infrastructure for ordinary people. Human infrastructure means
00:39:48.000 housing. You got a half a million people in this country who are homeless. You got 19 million
00:39:52.600 households who are spending 50% of their limited incomes on housing. We need to build housing. And
00:39:59.580 by the way, when you deal with housing, you create jobs. You got to deal with climate change. Who in
00:40:05.620 their right mind would believe that transforming our energy system to protect us from the devastation that
00:40:13.220 we're seeing from climate change? Who would not believe that that is not infrastructure? So moving
00:40:18.880 away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and sustainable energies that can create millions of
00:40:24.740 jobs. When I talk about infrastructure, it means if a worker, mom and dad are going to work, they have
00:40:30.900 the right to know that their kids are in decent childcare. That's infrastructure. Infrastructure is having
00:40:36.040 the best educated workforce in the world. Childcare is infrastructure. Education is infrastructure,
00:40:42.960 but it isn't. Infrastructure is infrastructure. Roads and bridges, that's what infrastructure is.
00:40:48.580 Education is education. Childcare is childcare. But this is what the left relies on. They believe
00:40:58.060 that by redefining words, they can redefine reality. This is the central feature of political correctness.
00:41:03.980 This is something that I detail at great length in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words,
00:41:07.640 Controlling Minds. Available now for pre-order. You see this on the left. I guess the way that you can
00:41:15.900 always tell they're about to do this is when they say or imply, when you really think about it,
00:41:22.260 right? Whenever they say or imply, as Bernie, I think, implied, but sometimes they say it explicitly,
00:41:27.980 hey, when you really think about it, isn't childcare infrastructure, whenever they say,
00:41:33.060 when you really think about it, just know there will not be any thinking going on. You will have
00:41:37.860 to suppress your thinking, your higher will and intellect to become a gullible fool and go in for
00:41:43.980 whatever they're saying. Because when you really think about it, childcare is not infrastructure.
00:41:50.020 They're different things. They can be good. Childcare can be good. Actually, raising your own child can be
00:41:54.620 really good, highly recommended. But sure, certain education can be good unless you're going to that
00:42:00.540 unified school district in San Marco with the crazy teachers. But there can be good education.
00:42:05.700 There can be bad. Sure, that's fine. It just isn't infrastructure. And no amount of Bernie Sanders or
00:42:11.880 any other leftist trying to redefine words is going to make it so. The reason they're pushing this now is
00:42:20.800 because they're trying to push through an infrastructure bill, infrastructure funding. And so
00:42:23.640 they want to get all of their goodies into that bill, just like how they put 91% of a COVID bill,
00:42:28.760 they make 91% of a COVID bill, just about whatever random nonsense they want. They say,
00:42:32.620 well, when you really think about it, isn't socialized medicine, isn't that infrastructure?
00:42:39.200 Or in the COVID case, when you really think about it, isn't childcare, public health and COVID
00:42:44.660 protection? No, I don't. When I really think about it, I don't think it is.
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00:43:18.980 The Libs, by the way, are planning on putting some infrastructure in our bodies. A lot of talk
00:43:25.520 about infrastructure now. They apparently want to put a little bit of that in our bodies.
00:43:31.280 This report just came out yesterday. I'm not joking. I did not find this in the deep recesses
00:43:35.980 of the internet. This is being published by the mainstream, even left-wing outlets.
00:43:41.560 Doctors and researchers at the Pentagon are working to prevent a future pandemic
00:43:45.860 by developing a microchip that can go under our skin that can detect a virus. This according
00:43:53.940 to Dr. Matt Hepburn, a retired army infectious disease physician. This is part of the Defense
00:43:58.880 Advanced Research Projects Agency or DARPA, which is a secret research agency. Not that secret because
00:44:04.440 we're talking about it on this show. Tasked with protecting soldiers from contagious diseases
00:44:08.120 and biological weapons.
00:44:09.840 I can't believe I'm saying this for the second time in what, a week or two, but it seems like Alex
00:44:20.720 Jones and associated people were sort of right. I'm not saying, I want to be very clear. I am not
00:44:29.100 saying that the government is currently injecting people with microchips, but the news report is very
00:44:35.240 clear. They are developing a microchip that can go under a person's skin to detect diseases.
00:44:41.520 The next, the headline that I'm going to read tomorrow is going to be breaking news.
00:44:46.180 Pentagon confirms that they are in fact turning the fricking frogs gay. That I wouldn't be surprised.
00:44:51.840 And by the way, the EPA and Yale University were engaging in research on whether or not chemicals in
00:44:58.780 the water in Connecticut were turning the fricking frogs trans, not gay. Actually,
00:45:01.880 they were turning them trans. This is, on the one hand, I want to, I want to back away for a moment
00:45:08.360 from all the theories about the microchips and stuff like that. On the one hand, this is incredibly
00:45:14.180 technologically impressive. Okay, I'm going to put the political question aside for a second. I'm just
00:45:19.280 focusing on the science or the technology or whatever. It is very impressive that scientists could
00:45:26.080 develop a microchip that can detect if you are coming down with a virus and, you know, beep or boop
00:45:31.860 or something or light up and tell you that you've got to go get some medical care. That is, that's
00:45:36.520 genuinely very impressive. I don't want it. Don't want it. Not interested. I don't care.
00:45:44.960 I am not an adherent of the cult of public health. I know a lot of people are. At the cultural and the
00:45:52.740 political level, that's how these sociopath politicians and public health officials have
00:45:57.460 shut down our country for a year. I don't want it. If the option is live 10 years longer with a
00:46:08.860 microchip under, under your skin that makes you neurotic about every time you're about to get a
00:46:14.380 virus or something and social distance and wear the stupid masks and what all that nonsense, but you live
00:46:19.460 10 years longer or don't live 10 years longer, but don't live your life in the neurotic paranoid fear
00:46:27.620 of coming down with the sniffles and ultimately the neurotic fear of death. I'm going to take the
00:46:32.980 latter because no one here gets out alive. I'd like to live a good, good long life. Emphasis on the good,
00:46:40.000 I suppose. But I know, look, eventually if I am to have a future, it ain't going to be here because
00:46:45.620 we're all, we're all going down eventually. And hopefully that, that natural fact helps you to
00:46:50.620 think about supernatural and eternal things. Or we can all just become neurotic ninnies and put
00:46:56.200 microchips in our skin and worry about getting the flu or whatever. Speaking of outlandish things that
00:47:01.800 have become plausible, can't miss this story. According to the New York Post, there is a New York
00:47:08.260 parent who wants to marry his or her own child. We do not know whether this individual is a man or
00:47:17.540 a woman, this parent, because the person who has filed this court document has, wants to remain
00:47:24.120 anonymous because obviously this person is a sicko. And we also don't know the sex of the child because
00:47:30.440 in the last five or seven years, we've redefined marriage, fundamentally redefined marriage to take
00:47:35.700 sexual difference out of it. So we don't know, is it a daughter? Is it a son? We don't know. Here's
00:47:38.940 what we do know. As a matter of quote, individual autonomy, this parent wants to remain anonymous
00:47:48.640 because what, what he or she wants is quote, an action that a large segment of society views is
00:47:53.480 morally, socially, and biologically repugnant. But what this person wants is quote, through the
00:48:00.100 enduring bond of marriage, two persons, whatever relationship they might otherwise have with one
00:48:04.380 another, can find a greater level of expression, intimacy, and spirituality, and therefore this
00:48:10.620 person wants to marry his or her child. That language, maybe intentionally so, is the language
00:48:19.820 of Anthony Kennedy's decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, the decision that redefined marriage from the court
00:48:25.420 bench to include monogamous same-sex unions. The question, I wonder if this is a troll. I wonder
00:48:34.220 if this parent suing to marry his or her own son or daughter is, is doing so to make a point, or maybe
00:48:39.840 it's real though. I mean, this sort of creepy stuff does happen a lot in our culture. Regardless, the
00:48:46.180 question I have is, by the logic of Obergefell, by the logic according to which the Supreme Court,
00:48:55.600 specifically Anthony Kennedy, redefined marriage to include monogamous same-sex unions,
00:49:01.220 why should this matter be any different? Why should these people be excluded from this
00:49:09.840 important bond of marriage? Why should these people's individual autonomy between consenting
00:49:18.740 adults, who by the way can't procreate, it says in the court documents they can't procreate,
00:49:22.300 so who knows, maybe it's an age thing, maybe it's a sex thing, who knows? Why should they be excluded
00:49:27.720 for that? What's the argument? What's the argument? Well, because it's, it's wrong. Well, that's what
00:49:34.900 you say, but you know, that's just your opinion, man. Come on, man. That's just your value system.
00:49:40.580 Maybe people have other value systems. Isn't, doesn't marriage expand intimacy? Well,
00:49:48.160 Antonin Scalia had a great line about this, which is, he says, you know, Anthony Kennedy says that
00:49:53.500 marriage expands intimacy, but as someone who's been in a long time marriage, I, I think actually
00:49:58.920 marriage restricts rather than expands intimacy. Ask the nearest hippie, which is a great line.
00:50:06.100 Marriage expands spirituality. What does that mean? I have no idea. Neither does Kennedy. Neither does
00:50:10.420 the person writing this, but what's the limiting principle. There isn't one. So then maybe we need
00:50:18.180 to rethink some of the radicalism that we've engaged in, in the last few years. Not because we hate
00:50:23.820 people, not, first of all, not because we hate homosexuals, right? No one's saying we, we need
00:50:29.400 to outlaw homosexuals. No one's saying that at all. But what the left has done, because they're so smart
00:50:34.540 about this, they conflate these two things. They say, well, if you don't want to radically redefine
00:50:40.080 the fundamental political institution and cultural institution, by the way, the building block of
00:50:45.080 society, the family, if you don't want to fundamentally redefine it from what it's been for all of human
00:50:48.740 history everywhere on earth, then you hate gay people and you want to ban them and you don't want
00:50:52.740 to let them do anything. And you're, you're mean. What, what are you talking, what are you talking
00:50:57.920 about? Well, what they're talking about is using language. A topic I talk about at great length,
00:51:05.620 by the way, in Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order.
00:51:09.640 Using language to redefine these cultural questions and these political questions,
00:51:13.960 and then bullying you, the conservative, tricking you, the conservative, into only focusing on the
00:51:19.540 cultural matters, where by the way, they're not, the right is not wielding power anyway,
00:51:23.540 and totally conceding the political realm. Seems like a big trick. Seems like we should wake up to
00:51:29.820 it and start fighting back. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.
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00:52:25.320 Wire 2021. Today on The Ben Shapiro Show, another police shooting of an unarmed black man in Minneapolis
00:52:30.980 spurs riots. Rashida Tlaib calls for an end to policing. And the federal government puts a pause
00:52:35.720 on the Johnson & Johnson vaccine for no apparent reason. That's today on The Ben Shapiro Show. Give it a listen.
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