The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 741 - When Culture Is Downstream Of Politics

00:00:00.000 Squish Lib Republican Governor Asa Hutchinson doubled down this week on his argument that

00:00:05.880 preventing perverts from pumping little kids full of cross-sex hormones somehow violates a deep

00:00:12.080 conservative principle. I think it's helpful for our party to have that kind of vigorous debate

00:00:18.220 about an important issue. And to me, this is about the future of our party. Are we going to

00:00:24.820 be a narrow party that expresses ourself in intolerant ways? Are we going to be a broad-based

00:00:32.560 party that shows conservative principles, but also compassion in dealing with some of the most

00:00:38.460 difficult issues that parents face, that individuals face? And at some point, I had to say, I've got to

00:00:46.300 remind my wonderful Republican colleagues that we are the party of Ronald Reagan that believes in a

00:00:53.820 limited role of government. And let's just ask that question. Sure, I sign pro-life bills, and I know

00:01:00.540 that there's a role for government even in the social issues, but we have to fundamentally ask

00:01:05.680 ourselves, do we need to do this? Is there a better way? Is this something that we need to leave to the

00:01:11.440 hand in the home or in the church, our faith leaders to handle? Is this calling out for a government

00:01:17.540 solution? Do we need to pass laws to protect little kids from being pumped full of hormones by perverts? 1.00

00:01:23.220 Or can we just do it in the home, in the society, in the culture? In other words,

00:01:30.420 politics is downstream of culture. How often have we all heard that? How often have we all said that?

00:01:36.980 But does Asa Hutchinson not realize that culture can be downstream of politics too?

00:01:41.980 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:52.000 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from Sagan Sagita, who says,

00:01:56.520 I wish Brian Stelter would show the same enthusiasm for voter ID that he shows for the vaccine passports. 0.87

00:02:03.300 Show me your ID or you cannot vote. I know, wouldn't that be so great? It kind of gives away the game

00:02:08.620 when you realize that the same left-wingers who are saying that it's racist and bigoted and outrageous

00:02:12.940 and terrible to demand that people get ID to vote are demanding that people get ID to go into a bar

00:02:19.340 or into a restaurant. Things that affect their daily lives multiple times a day. Obviously,

00:02:26.260 the call for a COVID passport much more onerous than getting an ID just right before you go vote so you

00:02:33.840 can go and prove that you are who you say you are. But it's not, it's not about that at all. This is

00:02:38.340 just about grabbing political power, not just cultural power. They have that. We'll touch on

00:02:42.780 that too. Not just social power, but political power, which Republicans have been ignoring for way

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00:04:16.760 Sure. Sure. Yes. What did Andrew Breitbart, the patron saint of Hollywood conservatives,

00:04:24.440 what did he mean when he said that? He meant that the entertainment industry influences a lot of our

00:04:30.700 political discussion. It's a pretty straightforward point. Breitbart put it in this great memorable

00:04:38.420 way, but that's what he's saying. He's saying the entertainment industry affects a lot of our

00:04:42.240 political thinking. So conservatives need to amass and wield cultural power. Yeah, totally. Of course. 0.98

00:04:48.980 But does that mean that policies, that law, that our political institutions have no effect on our

00:04:55.480 culture? That's just preposterous. I don't think that Andrew Breitbart thought that. First of all,

00:05:00.360 it's very difficult to have a neat and tidy distinction between politics and culture to begin

00:05:04.720 with. When our reality TV star, former president got elected, was he a cultural figure or a political

00:05:13.000 figure? When big technology companies that run the social media outside of the government, when they

00:05:18.960 censor the duly elected president, are they, are they behaving in a cultural or a political way?

00:05:23.780 Obviously it's a little bit of both because both culture and politics refers to, they, they both refer

00:05:29.660 to how we all get along together. Does, does culture get impacted by politics? Yeah, of course.

00:05:37.300 Look at East Germany. So right East Germany right now is mostly atheist. Okay. More than 50% of East 0.86

00:05:46.260 Germans are atheists. Only 10% of West Germans are atheist. Does culture explain this? Is it because of

00:05:54.700 regional variations in Bratwurst that you have a huge disparity in religiosity? Uh, no, I think it,

00:06:00.420 it has to do with politics. I think it's because East Germany was dominated by the officially atheist 0.68

00:06:06.160 Soviet union for decades, which pursued a ruthless policy of stamping out Christianity. And that had 0.91

00:06:11.740 cultural effects. Even after the East German government went away, even the most ardent disciples

00:06:17.460 of the Breitbart doctrine on the right, the ones who say, no government can never do anything. We can never

00:06:22.040 interact through our political institutions to affect what we want. It's only got to be cultural

00:06:26.600 because politics is downstream of culture. If you ask those people, Hey, do you think the great society

00:06:33.620 programs in the sixties affected the black family? They will all tell you, yes, of course it was 0.99

00:06:39.320 terrible. Lyndon Johnson and the great society destroyed the black family. Okay. Well that would 1.00

00:06:43.380 seem to be an example of culture being downstream of politics. Breitbart made a very good point.

00:06:50.860 He's, he's right. Conservatives need to amass and wield cultural power, but squish politicians 0.90

00:06:55.900 are now exploiting Breitbart's argument as an excuse for not doing their own jobs in the political

00:07:01.800 sphere. I didn't, well, I didn't elect Asa Hutchinson into everything, but Asa Hutchinson's

00:07:05.840 constituents didn't elect him to be the head of a film studio or the pastor of a church.

00:07:10.240 They elected him to be the governor so he can do conservative things and effect conservative

00:07:14.900 policies. And he's just not doing it. Fortunately, some other States are taking their role seriously,

00:07:20.460 Montana and Ohio are now in their Republican led legislatures, placing restrictions on the

00:07:27.620 ability of people to obtain abortion pills through the mail. This is very good stuff. I'm very good.

00:07:34.420 We, we mentioned the first time Asa Hutchinson brought up his ridiculous Reagan Buckley point,

00:07:39.580 the limited government point. I said, if keeping kids from being castrated does not fall within the

00:07:46.180 legitimate limits of government, then what does, then the government is going to be the size of an

00:07:50.540 atom, right? There's no, there's no, the limits are going to be so small. Nothing fits inside it.

00:07:55.780 Here is another example of a good mandate, of a good regulation, of a good time to outlaw something

00:08:05.660 because increasingly people can order abortion pills online. They don't really even need to

00:08:15.100 consult a medical doctor. So, right, but that's not my primary concern. My primary concern here is

00:08:20.220 that babies are being killed with, with the tacit and sometimes explicit approval of the law.

00:08:26.820 But a secondary effect here is that women are taking these drugs without medical advice. So it 1.00

00:08:32.260 could hurt them as well. This is a good opportunity for the government to step in and say, no, you're

00:08:39.100 not allowed to do that. But Michael, doesn't this constrict your freedom? No, it certainly doesn't

00:08:43.420 constrict the baby's freedom, but no, that's not, that's not what freedom is. We've talked about it a

00:08:50.780 lot on this show, that liberty and licentiousness are not the same thing. They're actually polar opposites.

00:08:56.460 And it has been a trick of the left of political correctness to conflate the two things. I talk

00:09:03.200 about this at great length in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds,

00:09:07.060 available now for pre-order. You can also pre-order a signed autographed first edition copy.

00:09:12.820 Just wanted to mention that, just wanted to throw that out there.

00:09:15.920 They're not the same thing. And even when we discuss our will, our ability to pursue our will,

00:09:21.360 I think we got to get a little more specific about this. I often use the example of the heroin

00:09:26.460 addict. When the heroin addict wants to go shoot up heroin and then a bunch of squish liberal 1.00

00:09:31.900 politicians who sometimes pretend they're Republicans say, oh yes, in the name of freedom,

00:09:36.040 we got to let the heroin addict shoot up heroin. Is he pursuing his will? Kind of, but not. He's

00:09:43.940 pursuing his lower will. He's pursuing his appetite, his desire. He's not pursuing his rational will.

00:09:49.700 We all know this, right? St. Paul writes about this where he says, the things I want to do,

00:09:53.320 I don't do. And the things I don't want to do, I do do. What does that mean? It means that I've

00:09:58.740 got certain passions that rationally I know are bad. And so at the level of my intellect,

00:10:04.260 I don't want to do them. But my flesh, because we're all kind of fleshy creatures, my flesh does

00:10:09.720 want to do them. And so I need to train my will to stop my flesh from pursuing these things.

00:10:14.700 That is called liberal education. That is called attaining liberty and virtue. We all used to know

00:10:20.960 this in this country. The founding fathers wrote about it at length, but we don't seem to get that

00:10:26.200 anymore because we've got this atrophied shallow understanding of liberty and culture and politics.

00:10:33.760 I'll give you another example of the culture. The culture here that seems to act a lot like

00:10:40.340 the political sphere, like what Mitch McConnell has called a parallel government. More than 100

00:10:48.080 corporate leaders met over the weekend to plot out their opposition to voter integrity laws across

00:10:55.020 the United States. This includes, this according to CBS News, leaders from American Airlines,

00:11:02.420 United Airlines, Levi Strauss, Walmart, Viacom, Aerial Investments, LinkedIn, Twitter,

00:11:08.400 AMC movie theaters. They're still around. I'm shocked. And others were invited to this left-wing

00:11:14.100 cultural private sector event for some of the most powerful entities in the United States,

00:11:20.880 publicly traded entities in a lot of cases, to undermine our election integrity laws, to undermine

00:11:29.360 our constitutional republic. Should we just say, okay, well, that's the culture. Throw our hands up.

00:11:36.160 We just need to write better books or something. No, of course not. I am all for, don't get me wrong.

00:11:44.160 I am all for a thriving, broadly protected private sector where people broadly get to

00:11:52.640 act without too much impediment from the federal government. But there are limits here. We're talking

00:11:59.920 about limited government, limited, we're talking about true liberty here, which has limits. When

00:12:07.900 these woke companies are putting their immense amount of cultural and political power, they all

00:12:16.300 got lobbyists and they all, these lines blur together a lot. When they are putting that at the

00:12:20.320 service of undermining our political system, undermining the will of the people of Georgia through

00:12:27.500 their elected representatives to pass some election integrity laws, which by the way, we had across

00:12:33.380 this country before they were weakened by the 2020 election. In some cases, explicitly violating

00:12:39.100 state constitutions to make it easier for Democrats to get votes. When those companies do that, then I

00:12:45.540 don't think we should protect them. I don't think that we need to suck up to big corporate America

00:12:49.480 like some misguided Republicans have done for the last 20 years.

00:12:53.460 I think we need to wield cultural power. Sure. Stop buying Harry's razors if you don't like how much

00:12:58.760 they hate your guts. Okay. Also, we need to wield political power. We need to take these tax breaks

00:13:04.720 away from Delta like they get in Georgia. We need to maybe take even more aggressive measures at the 0.99

00:13:11.820 political level on some of these companies. I do not want to be governed by a bunch of woke lunatics

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00:14:39.300 Corporate America colluding to undermine our political process and our constitutional order.

00:14:46.360 That is not good. However, I do have some good news for those who want to weaken

00:14:51.380 certain woke aspects of corporate America. At least one liberal corporation is not doing very well.

00:14:58.040 That would be GoodPillow. Now, GoodPillow, it's not, I guess it's legally a company. It isn't doing

00:15:03.400 anything yet. GoodPillow was the liberal pillow company that David Hogg, the activist, and some

00:15:13.380 other guy whose name I forget, but I actually met him one time. But anyway, I forget him. He's like a

00:15:17.320 Twitter left-wing troll guy. They came together and they formed this pillow company. And they just

00:15:23.100 talked, they said, this is so great. We're going to put Mike Lindell out of business. We're going to,

00:15:27.020 we hate MyPillow. It's too conservative. Some of us called, called to the new liberal version of

00:15:32.540 MyPillow, NowPillow, or OurPillow is another one for the real reds out there. But anyway, 1.00

00:15:38.480 it's collapsing. So David Hogg tweets out, quote, effective immediately, I have resigned and released

00:15:44.660 all shares, any ownership, and any control of GoodPillow, LLC. I want to thank his partnership.

00:15:51.440 I assume he's referring to this guy whose name I forget, and wish absolutely nothing but success

00:15:56.940 with the future of GoodPillow. So he's resigning all of his shares. And it turns out, I did the

00:16:02.240 calculations, all of David Hogg's shares of GoodPillow plus $29.98 will get you one premium queen-sized

00:16:12.620 MyPillow, which is great. That's good news for him if he finds the $29.98. This whole fiasco

00:16:17.900 is representative of David's political affiliation and also of his generation.

00:16:28.440 They all want the semblance of the thing, but they don't want the thing itself. They all want the

00:16:34.920 adulation. They want the nice write-ups. They want to be told they're doing great work.

00:16:41.120 They're, they're brilliant. They're leading the country. They're bringing us out of our age of

00:16:45.260 darkness, but they don't know anything. The fact that the left often relies on young people, 0.55

00:16:55.420 not just even young people as spokesmen, but young people to go out and vote at college campuses.

00:17:01.340 And they're always trying to lower the voting age. The fact that they're relying on people who by 0.82

00:17:05.080 definition are more ignorant than older people, more educated people, shows you this. They don't 1.00

00:17:11.600 know very much. They're just full of passionate intensity and desire. They haven't cultivated their

00:17:18.940 higher will and their intellect. They've only exercised their lower wills and their desires

00:17:25.380 and their appetites. And they get really angry and really wrathful and really impetuous. But

00:17:29.540 sometimes it all goes down in flames.

00:17:33.000 these young, very young activists should be in school, right? Guys like, why is David trying

00:17:42.500 to start a pillow company right now? When isn't he, isn't he in college? He should be doing that.

00:17:46.440 That's a better, that's, I'm not saying like I'm scolding him. You need to go back to class. I'm

00:17:50.080 just saying it's a better use of his time than whatever fake pillow company. Some liberal activists

00:17:54.380 are trying to use him to start. These people should be in school. But one of the reasons that

00:18:02.160 they're not, I suppose, is that the quality of education has plummeted in this country. There's

00:18:06.580 a newly released video of a teacher from the San Marco Unified School District. This is in

00:18:11.580 California. You'll be shocked to hear him yelling at her students over distance learning and other

00:18:17.820 issues. This was, this was posted to Facebook. Apparently it's a common occurrence. Take a listen to

00:18:23.320 what your children are being taught in the virtual classroom.

00:18:25.980 My question is, in this case, where is the white student union? Because, because we need 0.97

00:18:31.840 all racial equality. You need a white student union, Jake. You get everything.

00:18:35.740 If your parent wants to talk to me about their profession and their opinion on their profession,

00:18:43.780 I would love to hear that. I know very little about anything else in the world other than education.

00:18:49.280 Okay? However, if your parent wants to come talk to me about how I'm not doing a good enough job in

00:18:58.900 distance learning based on what you need as an individual, just dare them to come at me.

00:19:06.360 Because I'm so sick to my stomach of parents trying to tell educators how to do their job.

00:19:14.440 I have never once gone to a doctor's appointment and tried to tell my medical health provider how

00:19:20.000 to treat me. You know why? Because I know nothing about that. I didn't get my degree in medicine.

00:19:26.300 I know nothing about that. I know very little about anything in the world that those are true

00:19:31.260 statements, I would suspect. Not the sort of thing you want to hear your kid's teacher say.

00:19:35.660 Look, I know very little about anything in the world other than education.

00:19:41.960 You see the problem, right? Education is an instrument to convey all that other knowledge

00:19:51.480 you know about everything in the world to a student, right? You're supposed to know a lot of things

00:19:56.240 like, you know, dates and battles and books. You're supposed to know all that. And then education

00:20:04.500 is the process by which you convey all of that knowledge, which this woman admits she doesn't

00:20:09.680 have to a student, which is why she doesn't do it very well. She also doesn't seem to be 1.00

00:20:13.680 particularly talented at the education part of it, right? If you're screaming at students and you're

00:20:19.620 parroting a typical left-wing racialist line that we need to have racial grievance groups and racial

00:20:25.740 unions for every racial group, except for white people, the awful, terrible white people. 0.92

00:20:31.280 And then to, to make this point about education that is so elementary, but she just doesn't

00:20:38.180 understand it, which is, she says, your parents have no role in your education. I, crazy, ignorant lady, 0.89

00:20:45.460 I am going to be your educator. I, who haven't cultivated my upper will and intellect,

00:20:52.460 I, who am given away to wrath and invective, I will educate you. And how dare your parents suggest

00:20:59.340 they have any say in it. But of course the family is the first place that education happens.

00:21:04.820 I'm not just talking about for homeschoolers or people who have some very solid view of the world.

00:21:10.060 I'm saying for everybody, the best lessons you ever learned in your life,

00:21:14.520 really the enduring lessons that you learned. Maybe some you learned in school. I learned some great

00:21:20.340 lessons in school, but really those enduring lessons that have really shaped my life beyond

00:21:27.160 even the technical aspects of learning how to write, learning how to read history.

00:21:32.360 The ones that really shape how you are educated, meaning the whole person, the way you are raised

00:21:36.780 up. Where did you learn those? You learn those at home, of course. And parents ought to have some

00:21:44.260 say in their child's education. This was one of the premises of William F. Buckley Jr.'s famous book

00:21:49.360 that launched the post-war conservative movement, God and Man at Yale. That parents, trustees,

00:21:54.900 people outside of the education system ought to exert power on that education system. 0.75

00:22:01.980 Is that going to be a cultural power or political power? We're talking about a public school here.

00:22:08.260 So it would seem that you got to, it's a little bit of both, isn't it? Certainly, whatever parents are

00:22:13.940 living in the school district ought to exert a lot of political power to make sure that their students

00:22:19.480 aren't being educated by people like this crazy lady. How are the teachers getting away with it? 1.00

00:22:24.580 The teachers are getting away with this sort of thing because of, of the lockdowns because

00:22:30.020 they're, they're now, they get to teach from distance learning and they have a lock on these

00:22:36.360 kids. They've clearly gone a little bit kookier than usual even. And they're just sitting in their

00:22:41.060 homes saying and spatting off on whatever they want. And Dr. Fauci says, absolutely no end in sight.

00:22:48.600 Eating and drinking indoors in restaurants and bars. Is that okay now?

00:22:54.780 No, it's still not okay for the simple reason that the level of infection, the dynamics of infection

00:23:00.180 in the community are still really disturbingly high. Like just yesterday, there were close to 80,000 new

00:23:08.460 infections and we've been hanging around 60, 70, 75,000. So if you're not vaccinated, please get

00:23:17.680 vaccinated as soon as vaccine becomes available to you. And if you are vaccinated, please remember

00:23:24.700 that you still have to be careful and not get involved in crowded situations, particularly indoors where

00:23:32.320 people are not wearing masks. So you get the vaccine, but you can't change the lockdown behavior

00:23:40.600 at all. And I can't, this is, by the way, this is a little bit of a side point. Does it sound like

00:23:46.140 Dr. Fauci has been moderating his accent a little bit? Does it sound like he's, maybe I'm just crazy

00:23:52.200 here. It sounds, to me, it sounds like he's tamping down the accent because when he's ordinarily on TV,

00:23:56.660 it's, you know, well, listen here, you, I'm Dr. Fauci. And, but it's actually sounds like he's,

00:24:02.880 I don't know if I'm not saying he's heard my impression of him. Okay. I'm not saying that.

00:24:07.460 I'm just, I'm just wondering, I'm just asking questions. Okay. I've been asking questions

00:24:12.120 about coronavirus from the very beginning. And I've been asking questions specifically about the

00:24:16.360 wisdom of these stupid lockdown policies that I have been ignoring as best I possibly can,

00:24:21.220 other than when I occasionally have to fly on an airplane. And I said from the very beginning,

00:24:26.260 they're not going to let this up. It's not two weeks to slow the spread. It's not a month. It's

00:24:30.360 not two months. It's going to just go on until we take that power back from them. How are we going

00:24:34.380 to take the power back? Are we going to take the power back by just walking into bars with our masks

00:24:38.800 off? In some cases, maybe in some cases you don't want to get the owners in trouble. Okay. That's

00:24:43.160 cultural power. Or are we going to exert political power and mandate that power hungry technocrats like 1.00

00:24:52.180 Dr. Fauci should never be able to amass the kind of power that they have? Probably we need a little

00:24:58.360 bit of both. Now there is one cultural issue where I think you really can help yourself.

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00:25:29.760 brick and mortar store and spend up to twice as much for the same parts? If you need, for instance,

00:25:34.800 this is just off the top of my head, a Delphi FG1456 fuel pump assembly for, I don't know, let's say

00:25:39.660 a 2005 to 2010 Honda Odyssey. And let's say costs, I'm spitballing, $354 at a big chain store. That's the

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00:25:52.780 humiliate yourself by going into that store and not having answers to all those questions they have.

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00:26:08.380 Then write Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S in their how did you hear about us box so that they know that we sent you. 0.98

00:26:14.540 Also, make sure that you check out Ben Shapiro's show because Ben is going to be talking about

00:26:20.580 the next riot in Minneapolis. You, me, and the next riot. They just, this probably,

00:26:26.500 when Ben wrote the show, there was one riot, but there's a new riot for a completely different

00:26:29.900 reason right now. Also, it's already time for episode five of Candace. People can't get enough

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00:27:20.300 Dr. Fauci is clearly attempting to hold the lockdowns over everybody until a sufficient number

00:27:41.600 of people, in his estimation, get vaccinated. That's clearly the point, right? He's sort of

00:27:47.260 admitted this. He's said, well, you know, look, the percentages, maybe I'll bump it up a little

00:27:51.700 bit, bump it down a little bit, because we're just trying to get, sorry. Well, look, maybe we're

00:27:56.660 going to bump the percentages up a little bit or down a little bit, but we're just trying to get

00:28:00.620 everybody vaccinated. That sort of thing. I'm paraphrasing him here. But by the way, that is

00:28:05.660 his job. If you buy into the cult of public health, you recognize that the progressive vision

00:28:15.000 here is we will be governed by a panel of experts who possess the science, capital S, trademark over

00:28:20.820 the E, and the political power, public, politics, science, or health, rather, science. So the political

00:28:29.540 aspect here is that Fauci is trying to persuade people and lead people to doing what he wants them

00:28:33.700 to do. A lot of this involves getting the vaccine, but they're having a little bit of trouble getting

00:28:39.220 the vaccine. Jen Psaki is focusing in her recent press conference on trouble getting evangelical

00:28:47.000 white voters to take the vaccine. You know, that awful group of people, worst people in this whole 0.98

00:28:53.600 country, if you ask me. Jen Psaki is very upset that white evangelicals won't get the vaccine. And 1.00

00:29:00.620 so she was asked how they're trying to remedy this situation. And she has a simple answer.

00:29:05.540 They're just going to start advertising on NASCAR. We're also investing $3 billion to states and

00:29:10.900 community-based organizations to strengthen vaccine confidence in the highest risk and hardest hit

00:29:15.520 communities. And often people think of that as just black and brown communities. And that is not.

00:29:20.480 As you've noted, that is also conservative communities, white evangelicals. It's a range of

00:29:25.080 communities around the country. What we found to be most effective is to work with these local

00:29:30.060 organizations. So faith-based organizations, community health organizations, civic leaders,

00:29:35.040 and others who can really get this message deeply in communities. We've also had a number of our

00:29:40.800 members of our COVID team from Dr. Fauci and Dr. Collins participate, as an example, participate

00:29:49.180 in a range of media interviews. You know, an example is Dr. Collins participated in the 700 Club.

00:29:55.020 Dr. Nunez-Smith hosted a Faith Leaders Roundtable. We're also looking for, we've run PSAs on The Deadliest 0.78

00:30:01.460 Catch. We're engaged with NASCAR and Country Music TV. We're looking for a range of creative ways to

00:30:07.000 get directly connected to white conservative communities. We won't always be the best messengers,

00:30:12.760 but we're still trying to meet people where they are.

00:30:15.260 Okay, so she's putting this on with a real sincere straight face. She's saying, look, we're just,

00:30:20.420 we're trying to reach these white evangelicals. And she ignores the fact that similar rates of black

00:30:26.500 Americans are not getting the vaccine as white evangelical Americans. She's kind of,

00:30:31.120 she's brushing that to the side. She's like, these white evangelicals, and we're, we're trying to

00:30:34.360 reach out to them where they are, you know, in their culture. So we're, we're advertising on

00:30:38.520 The Deadliest Catch. You know, we're advertising on NASCAR. And so we're just doing our best. This is

00:30:46.520 obviously a dig at white conservatives. She, do you think that she would say,

00:30:51.980 if she were to address these similar rates of reluctance to get the vaccine among black people,

00:30:57.400 do you think she would say, you know, we're trying to reach black people by advertising in

00:31:02.380 gangster rap and Tyler Perry movies? And so we're just, we were just trying to meet them where they

00:31:07.620 are. No, of course not. She, not, not, by the way, not because black people don't listen to rap music

00:31:13.600 and not because white people don't watch The Deadliest Catch or whatever, or NASCAR, but because the

00:31:18.420 specificity here would be designed to create a caricature. And that's obviously what she's 0.73

00:31:22.660 doing here. It's just, it's a slightly subtle dig. So kudos to Jen Psaki, who's usually rather 0.78

00:31:27.800 unsubtle for, for using a bit of subtlety, but it's, it's creating a caricature of culture.

00:31:35.060 The implication, of course, that it's completely insane for these white evangelicals to be reluctant

00:31:41.200 to get a vaccine or to make a risk assessment over the vaccine, completely ridiculous.

00:31:45.260 Uh, and we know better here in the Biden administration and we have the science,

00:31:49.900 you know, with the capital S and everything. So now we're going to convince you to do it.

00:31:54.320 Maybe hear me out. Maybe these groups of people, the black Americans who are reluctant to get it 1.00

00:31:59.840 and the white evangelicals, maybe they're making a risk calculation and they're saying, well, my risk

00:32:05.440 depends who you are. If you're elderly or if you're fat, then you might, you might have a greater risk

00:32:10.520 from COVID itself. But if you're, let's say you're relatively healthy, you're relatively thin,

00:32:14.880 and you're relatively young, your, your risk from COVID is pretty low. And you're saying,

00:32:19.720 okay, well, I just, I'm not saying the vaccine is poisonous. I'm not saying the vaccine is going

00:32:23.920 to kill me. I'm not saying it's going to pump me full of 4G, 5G and make my telephone, you know,

00:32:27.920 service much better or whatever other theories you're reading on the internet. Just saying,

00:32:32.140 I don't, I don't really need it. I think it was just this morning, didn't I read somewhere that

00:32:37.000 one of the vaccines is now being recalled Johnson and Johnson vaccine, I believe, because it's

00:32:43.740 causing a very small number of people, but still enough people that they're taking some steps here

00:32:49.580 to deal with it, a blood clotting issue in women. Okay. Well, maybe that means that people have some 1.00

00:32:58.000 right to be a little bit skeptical or a little reluctant. I'm not saying across the board. I'm

00:33:02.960 not, I'm not anti-vax. Don't call me anti-vax. I'm just saying, if I'm a healthy young guy,

00:33:10.640 why do I need to worry about this? Well, because Dr. Fauci told me to.

00:33:14.000 And because I'm watching the deadliest catch and they told me, they told me to in the commercials

00:33:17.840 as well. Those white evangelicals, those white people, they drive me crazy. Speaking of racial 0.99

00:33:26.600 tensions, there is more riding going on back somehow in Minnesota. Why is this? Because of

00:33:34.480 a shooting, an officer involved shooting of Dante Wright, who, well, I'll tell you what,

00:33:40.920 just take a listen to the footage and you can see what happened because it seems to be a whole mess

00:33:44.720 of a situation. So Dante Wright, this guy being arrested outside of his car, they got him in the

00:33:53.700 cuffs and then he breaks away and he jumps in his, in his car. He gets back in his car. He's resist,

00:33:57.720 obviously resisting arrest. Who knows? Is he reaching for some weapon or something like that?

00:34:02.080 He's trying to drive off. Now this woman pulls her gun out, screams taser. 1.00

00:34:10.460 He drives off, but you hear her say, I just shot him. So what happened?

00:34:17.720 The woman didn't reach for her taser. Maybe she thought she did. She seemed to think that she did,

00:34:21.980 but she grabbed her pistol and then shot this dude in the car. 0.69

00:34:27.540 So it doesn't sound like she did it intentionally because he drives away and she says, oh my goodness,

00:34:33.500 oh my gosh, what just happened? I shot him. Also, this guy was resisting arrest. He was

00:34:41.540 being arrested for a weapons charge and, and escaping police before he was then killed,

00:34:48.120 which is now sparking more BLM race rioting and looting. The criminal complaint says he had an

00:34:54.020 illegal Ruger 45 pistol and then he skipped his court date. Do we need to totally defend this woman cop? 1.00

00:35:04.380 No, I, it, it seems that she was quite inept here. Really, regardless of the weapons charge or skipping

00:35:12.160 arrest, you should not be grabbing a pistol and shooting a guy when you think that it's a taser,

00:35:20.500 when you, right, that doesn't, if she'd shot him with the taser, I think totally, totally fine. But

00:35:24.960 that, that seems like a big, big mistake. And when life and death is on the line, you can't,

00:35:28.840 can't tolerate that. Also, you shouldn't resist arrest and you shouldn't skip your court date for

00:35:35.260 your weapons charge. And cops who are under attack in this country have some right to arrest criminals

00:35:43.380 and to protect themselves when these guys try to get away. Horrible situation all around for

00:35:51.200 everybody involved. The guy should not have died at this traffic stop, at least, at least given what

00:35:57.900 we know about this traffic stop at the moment that he died, that should not have happened. Also,

00:36:03.060 if he had not resisted arrest, it would not have happened. Okay. That's, I think, as reasonable a

00:36:09.180 take on the shooting as you can possibly have. So now Minnesota is going up in flames. Again,

00:36:15.660 Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey has declared a state of emergency in the city. Together with the St.

00:36:21.920 Paul Mayor, Melvin Carter, has announced a curfew starting at 7 p.m. as the city braces for further

00:36:27.400 riots following this shooting. The National Guard was called out Sunday night to help keep the peace

00:36:33.940 and is likely to assist Minneapolis and Brooklyn Center law enforcement Monday night.

00:36:39.660 If I were the mayor of Minneapolis or St. Paul, nobody has elected me to that position. It seems

00:36:46.160 like a pretty blue place. So something tells me I would not be elected there. My solution to this

00:36:52.220 would be, yep, call in the National Guard, institute a curfew, and then anybody who riots gets arrested

00:36:59.360 and goes to prison for a very long time. And then when you have arrested all of these rioters,

00:37:07.620 one, you, or even a good percentage of the rioters, you deter further rioting, which these feckless people

00:37:16.040 did not do last year when BLM torched the city for the first time in recent memory. They didn't do that,

00:37:21.740 so they encouraged more of this violence. But also, when you, when you put enough of the rioters in

00:37:27.340 prison, you don't have any more rioters. Now we are told we have an over-incarceration problem in

00:37:34.240 the United States. As long as cities are being torched, I don't think we have an over-incarceration

00:37:39.860 problem. I think, as, as Senator Tom Cotton pointed out the other day, we have an under-incarceration

00:37:47.120 problem because we got all these criminals who are torching the cities and burning people's private

00:37:53.860 businesses and private homes. It's the cultural side and burning government buildings. That's the

00:37:59.520 political side. And we're not just going to have a cultural response and, you know, persuade people

00:38:04.720 through our local civic organizations like the Lions Club. You can do that too. That's helpful.

00:38:09.540 And make better movies and have cultural institutions. Yeah, go ahead, do that. Also, you need a political

00:38:16.500 response from the government. The left doesn't want to do that, though. The left doesn't really want to

00:38:23.020 tamp down the violence. That's why they've encouraged it. That's why Kamala Harris last year bailed these

00:38:28.780 criminals out of prison. She raised money to bail the criminal rioters out of prison, out of jail.

00:38:34.240 They don't want to tamp this stuff down because the left thrives on crises. And the other strategy that

00:38:42.120 the left relies on is the redefinition of words. Bernie Sanders showing this just the other day.

00:38:47.460 So this all began because Kirsten Gillibrand, the not very successful Democrat candidate for president,

00:38:54.820 senator from New York, she tweeted out, quote, paid leave is infrastructure. Child care is

00:39:01.560 infrastructure. Caregiving is infrastructure. Now, of course, those sentences don't mean anything

00:39:09.380 because none of them is true. You could just say, you'd say like, apples, apple is love. Television is

00:39:22.040 up. Purple is seven, right? You're, I know you're saying words and they seem to, they got the noun

00:39:31.920 and the verb, but they don't mean anything. Bernie Sanders picking up on this theme from Kirsten

00:39:37.220 Gillibrand is also radically redefining the word infrastructure. You've got to take a broad look

00:39:42.560 at what infrastructure means, human infrastructure for ordinary people. Human infrastructure means

00:39:48.000 housing. You got a half a million people in this country who are homeless. You got 19 million

00:39:52.600 households who are spending 50% of their limited incomes on housing. We need to build housing. And

00:39:59.580 by the way, when you deal with housing, you create jobs. You got to deal with climate change. Who in

00:40:05.620 their right mind would believe that transforming our energy system to protect us from the devastation that

00:40:13.220 we're seeing from climate change? Who would not believe that that is not infrastructure? So moving

00:40:18.880 away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and sustainable energies that can create millions of

00:40:24.740 jobs. When I talk about infrastructure, it means if a worker, mom and dad are going to work, they have

00:40:30.900 the right to know that their kids are in decent childcare. That's infrastructure. Infrastructure is having

00:40:36.040 the best educated workforce in the world. Childcare is infrastructure. Education is infrastructure,

00:40:42.960 but it isn't. Infrastructure is infrastructure. Roads and bridges, that's what infrastructure is.

00:40:48.580 Education is education. Childcare is childcare. But this is what the left relies on. They believe

00:40:58.060 that by redefining words, they can redefine reality. This is the central feature of political correctness.

00:41:03.980 This is something that I detail at great length in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words,

00:41:07.640 Controlling Minds. Available now for pre-order. You see this on the left. I guess the way that you can

00:41:15.900 always tell they're about to do this is when they say or imply, when you really think about it,

00:41:22.260 right? Whenever they say or imply, as Bernie, I think, implied, but sometimes they say it explicitly,

00:41:27.980 hey, when you really think about it, isn't childcare infrastructure, whenever they say,

00:41:33.060 when you really think about it, just know there will not be any thinking going on. You will have

00:41:37.860 to suppress your thinking, your higher will and intellect to become a gullible fool and go in for

00:41:43.980 whatever they're saying. Because when you really think about it, childcare is not infrastructure.

00:41:50.020 They're different things. They can be good. Childcare can be good. Actually, raising your own child can be

00:41:54.620 really good, highly recommended. But sure, certain education can be good unless you're going to that

00:42:00.540 unified school district in San Marco with the crazy teachers. But there can be good education.

00:42:05.700 There can be bad. Sure, that's fine. It just isn't infrastructure. And no amount of Bernie Sanders or

00:42:11.880 any other leftist trying to redefine words is going to make it so. The reason they're pushing this now is

00:42:20.800 because they're trying to push through an infrastructure bill, infrastructure funding. And so

00:42:23.640 they want to get all of their goodies into that bill, just like how they put 91% of a COVID bill,

00:42:28.760 they make 91% of a COVID bill, just about whatever random nonsense they want. They say,

00:42:32.620 well, when you really think about it, isn't socialized medicine, isn't that infrastructure?

00:42:39.200 Or in the COVID case, when you really think about it, isn't childcare, public health and COVID

00:42:44.660 protection? No, I don't. When I really think about it, I don't think it is.

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00:43:18.980 The Libs, by the way, are planning on putting some infrastructure in our bodies. A lot of talk

00:43:25.520 about infrastructure now. They apparently want to put a little bit of that in our bodies.

00:43:31.280 This report just came out yesterday. I'm not joking. I did not find this in the deep recesses

00:43:35.980 of the internet. This is being published by the mainstream, even left-wing outlets.

00:43:41.560 Doctors and researchers at the Pentagon are working to prevent a future pandemic

00:43:45.860 by developing a microchip that can go under our skin that can detect a virus. This according

00:43:53.940 to Dr. Matt Hepburn, a retired army infectious disease physician. This is part of the Defense

00:43:58.880 Advanced Research Projects Agency or DARPA, which is a secret research agency. Not that secret because

00:44:04.440 we're talking about it on this show. Tasked with protecting soldiers from contagious diseases

00:44:08.120 and biological weapons.

00:44:09.840 I can't believe I'm saying this for the second time in what, a week or two, but it seems like Alex

00:44:20.720 Jones and associated people were sort of right. I'm not saying, I want to be very clear. I am not

00:44:29.100 saying that the government is currently injecting people with microchips, but the news report is very

00:44:35.240 clear. They are developing a microchip that can go under a person's skin to detect diseases.

00:44:41.520 The next, the headline that I'm going to read tomorrow is going to be breaking news.

00:44:46.180 Pentagon confirms that they are in fact turning the fricking frogs gay. That I wouldn't be surprised. 1.00

00:44:51.840 And by the way, the EPA and Yale University were engaging in research on whether or not chemicals in

00:44:58.780 the water in Connecticut were turning the fricking frogs trans, not gay. Actually, 0.98

00:45:01.880 they were turning them trans. This is, on the one hand, I want to, I want to back away for a moment 0.95

00:45:08.360 from all the theories about the microchips and stuff like that. On the one hand, this is incredibly

00:45:14.180 technologically impressive. Okay, I'm going to put the political question aside for a second. I'm just

00:45:19.280 focusing on the science or the technology or whatever. It is very impressive that scientists could

00:45:26.080 develop a microchip that can detect if you are coming down with a virus and, you know, beep or boop

00:45:31.860 or something or light up and tell you that you've got to go get some medical care. That is, that's

00:45:36.520 genuinely very impressive. I don't want it. Don't want it. Not interested. I don't care.

00:45:44.960 I am not an adherent of the cult of public health. I know a lot of people are. At the cultural and the

00:45:52.740 political level, that's how these sociopath politicians and public health officials have 0.99

00:45:57.460 shut down our country for a year. I don't want it. If the option is live 10 years longer with a 0.94

00:46:08.860 microchip under, under your skin that makes you neurotic about every time you're about to get a

00:46:14.380 virus or something and social distance and wear the stupid masks and what all that nonsense, but you live

00:46:19.460 10 years longer or don't live 10 years longer, but don't live your life in the neurotic paranoid fear

00:46:27.620 of coming down with the sniffles and ultimately the neurotic fear of death. I'm going to take the

00:46:32.980 latter because no one here gets out alive. I'd like to live a good, good long life. Emphasis on the good,

00:46:40.000 I suppose. But I know, look, eventually if I am to have a future, it ain't going to be here because

00:46:45.620 we're all, we're all going down eventually. And hopefully that, that natural fact helps you to

00:46:50.620 think about supernatural and eternal things. Or we can all just become neurotic ninnies and put

00:46:56.200 microchips in our skin and worry about getting the flu or whatever. Speaking of outlandish things that

00:47:01.800 have become plausible, can't miss this story. According to the New York Post, there is a New York

00:47:08.260 parent who wants to marry his or her own child. We do not know whether this individual is a man or

00:47:17.540 a woman, this parent, because the person who has filed this court document has, wants to remain 0.95

00:47:24.120 anonymous because obviously this person is a sicko. And we also don't know the sex of the child because 0.65

00:47:30.440 in the last five or seven years, we've redefined marriage, fundamentally redefined marriage to take

00:47:35.700 sexual difference out of it. So we don't know, is it a daughter? Is it a son? We don't know. Here's

00:47:38.940 what we do know. As a matter of quote, individual autonomy, this parent wants to remain anonymous

00:47:48.640 because what, what he or she wants is quote, an action that a large segment of society views is

00:47:53.480 morally, socially, and biologically repugnant. But what this person wants is quote, through the

00:48:00.100 enduring bond of marriage, two persons, whatever relationship they might otherwise have with one

00:48:04.380 another, can find a greater level of expression, intimacy, and spirituality, and therefore this

00:48:10.620 person wants to marry his or her child. That language, maybe intentionally so, is the language 1.00

00:48:19.820 of Anthony Kennedy's decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, the decision that redefined marriage from the court

00:48:25.420 bench to include monogamous same-sex unions. The question, I wonder if this is a troll. I wonder

00:48:34.220 if this parent suing to marry his or her own son or daughter is, is doing so to make a point, or maybe

00:48:39.840 it's real though. I mean, this sort of creepy stuff does happen a lot in our culture. Regardless, the

00:48:46.180 question I have is, by the logic of Obergefell, by the logic according to which the Supreme Court,

00:48:55.600 specifically Anthony Kennedy, redefined marriage to include monogamous same-sex unions,

00:49:01.220 why should this matter be any different? Why should these people be excluded from this

00:49:09.840 important bond of marriage? Why should these people's individual autonomy between consenting

00:49:18.740 adults, who by the way can't procreate, it says in the court documents they can't procreate,

00:49:22.300 so who knows, maybe it's an age thing, maybe it's a sex thing, who knows? Why should they be excluded

00:49:27.720 for that? What's the argument? What's the argument? Well, because it's, it's wrong. Well, that's what

00:49:34.900 you say, but you know, that's just your opinion, man. Come on, man. That's just your value system.

00:49:40.580 Maybe people have other value systems. Isn't, doesn't marriage expand intimacy? Well,

00:49:48.160 Antonin Scalia had a great line about this, which is, he says, you know, Anthony Kennedy says that

00:49:53.500 marriage expands intimacy, but as someone who's been in a long time marriage, I, I think actually

00:49:58.920 marriage restricts rather than expands intimacy. Ask the nearest hippie, which is a great line.

00:50:06.100 Marriage expands spirituality. What does that mean? I have no idea. Neither does Kennedy. Neither does

00:50:10.420 the person writing this, but what's the limiting principle. There isn't one. So then maybe we need

00:50:18.180 to rethink some of the radicalism that we've engaged in, in the last few years. Not because we hate

00:50:23.820 people, not, first of all, not because we hate homosexuals, right? No one's saying we, we need

00:50:29.400 to outlaw homosexuals. No one's saying that at all. But what the left has done, because they're so smart

00:50:34.540 about this, they conflate these two things. They say, well, if you don't want to radically redefine

00:50:40.080 the fundamental political institution and cultural institution, by the way, the building block of

00:50:45.080 society, the family, if you don't want to fundamentally redefine it from what it's been for all of human

00:50:48.740 history everywhere on earth, then you hate gay people and you want to ban them and you don't want 0.61

00:50:52.740 to let them do anything. And you're, you're mean. What, what are you talking, what are you talking

00:50:57.920 about? Well, what they're talking about is using language. A topic I talk about at great length,

00:51:05.620 by the way, in Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order.

00:51:09.640 Using language to redefine these cultural questions and these political questions,

00:51:13.960 and then bullying you, the conservative, tricking you, the conservative, into only focusing on the

00:51:19.540 cultural matters, where by the way, they're not, the right is not wielding power anyway,

00:51:23.540 and totally conceding the political realm. Seems like a big trick. Seems like we should wake up to

00:51:29.820 it and start fighting back. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you tomorrow.

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00:52:25.320 Wire 2021. Today on The Ben Shapiro Show, another police shooting of an unarmed black man in Minneapolis

00:52:30.980 spurs riots. Rashida Tlaib calls for an end to policing. And the federal government puts a pause

00:52:35.720 on the Johnson & Johnson vaccine for no apparent reason. That's today on The Ben Shapiro Show. Give it a listen.

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 13, 2021

Ep. 741 - When Culture Is Downstream Of Politics

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