The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 742 - Mau-Mauing The Flak Catchers

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00:00:37.720 I have said for a long time on this show that the left, through political correctness or wokeness or cancel culture or whatever,

00:00:43.920 is seeking purely to destroy, to dismantle, to deconstruct.

00:00:48.520 This is not a positive movement trying to build something.

00:00:51.360 It's just trying to tear stuff down.

00:00:52.820 And sometimes left-wingers say, Michael, that's not fair.

00:00:55.660 No, you're straw manning.

00:00:57.260 That's not true.

00:00:57.920 Well, one social justice warrior with a podcast, Kim Brown, her show is called Burn It Down with Kim Brown.

00:01:05.360 I think you can get the thesis of what that is.

00:01:07.400 She is acknowledging that what we're seeing right now in leftist activism is purely designed to destroy. 0.98

00:01:15.000 I support all that s***. 1.00

00:01:17.260 I support them looting the damn Dollar Tree. 1.00

00:01:21.040 I support the looting of what other s*** that they loot? 1.00

00:01:24.600 Like the advanced auto parts. 0.92

00:01:27.440 I remember last year they looted Target. 0.97

00:01:30.140 I support all that s***. 0.98

00:01:31.520 Loot all that s***. 0.99

00:01:32.460 Do you know why? 1.00

00:01:33.140 Because black people and marginalized and oppressed people could loot every store in this whole f***ing country for 200 f***ing years. 1.00

00:01:42.440 It would not even come close to the debt that America owes us. 0.99

00:01:47.400 But of course, that's not true.

00:01:49.020 America doesn't owe any people or any peoples anything.

00:01:53.180 Nothing.

00:01:53.960 Nunc, niente, nada.

00:01:55.840 This is true of the West more broadly.

00:01:57.720 The West, though the West flagellates itself and says, oh, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, the West does not owe anybody anything.

00:02:06.160 The West produced the greatest civilization in the history of the world, which has been an unfathomable blessing to the entire globe.

00:02:15.420 Unfortunately, the opinion that America and the West owe something to everybody else has gained a lot of currency on the left.

00:02:22.740 It has come to dominate our national conversation.

00:02:26.100 We're only focusing on these screaming radical leftists.

00:02:31.560 I hate to be a kicker.

00:02:32.800 I always long for peace.

00:02:34.260 But the wheel that squeaks the loudest is the one that gets the grease.

00:02:37.740 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:02:38.740 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:47.340 Welcome back to the show.

00:02:48.360 My favorite comment yesterday from Josh Pedrazza.

00:02:52.300 Pedrazza?

00:02:52.920 I don't know, something like that.

00:02:53.720 I'm trying to make it really Italian.

00:02:54.840 He says, if Fauci came down to Florida and saw the open bars, he would probably tear his cloak and yell, blasphemy, blasphemy.

00:03:03.560 He is the Caiaphas of our present religious order, the high priest of secular progressivism.

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00:04:18.760 Some restrictions apply.

00:04:20.660 Everybody is apologizing for things that they don't need to apologize for because of

00:04:26.880 the imagined transgressions of the West.

00:04:30.140 I'm not even talking about real transgressions, whatever every civilization has.

00:04:33.780 I'm talking about the imagined transgressions.

00:04:36.200 Hank Azaria, who is the voice actor from The Simpsons, he's the guy who does Apu.

00:04:42.320 If you haven't listened to The Simpsons, Apu is a guy who kind of talks like a stereotypical

00:04:46.160 Indian guy.

00:04:46.700 Apu is now, this is very racist.

00:04:51.060 If an Indian or Pakistani guy voices Apu, does the exact same voice, that, totally fine. 1.00

00:04:56.660 If a white guy like Hank Azaria does Apu, this very racist, terrible, Azaria just apologized

00:05:03.520 for the seven millionth time.

00:05:04.740 He said, quote, I really do apologize.

00:05:07.300 It's important.

00:05:08.580 I apologize for my part in creating that and participating in that.

00:05:13.280 Part of me feels like I need to go to every single Indian person in this country and personally

00:05:19.700 apologize.

00:05:20.860 And sometimes I do. 0.99

00:05:23.120 That is very pathetic. 0.99

00:05:24.760 That's sad. 1.00

00:05:25.920 That is neurotic.

00:05:27.700 You should seek professional help, Hank Azaria.

00:05:29.800 But it's also empty because Hank Azaria has made a lot of money on The Simpsons.

00:05:34.800 Last I checked, he hasn't been doling out $100 bills to every Indian guy that he meets on

00:05:42.000 the street.

00:05:42.440 He hasn't been donating, giving away all of his money.

00:05:45.900 He still enjoys the fruits of The Simpsons.

00:05:49.940 He just feels bad about it.

00:05:51.760 Just like so many masochistic people in the West, of all races, but especially the white 0.91

00:05:57.200 liberals, enjoy the fruits of the West.

00:06:00.080 They still enjoy this nice civilization.

00:06:01.680 They just want to denigrate it.

00:06:03.980 They want to deride it.

00:06:05.160 They want to apologize for it all the time.

00:06:09.040 Indian people are not offended by Apu.

00:06:12.420 I'm speaking only anecdotally here.

00:06:14.960 I have many Indian friends.

00:06:16.840 They are not, they don't think that Apu should be canceled.

00:06:19.840 Okay.

00:06:20.960 I don't think that Mario and Luigi should be canceled as a member of the Italian race,

00:06:27.660 or at least partially the Italian race.

00:06:29.640 I don't think so.

00:06:30.960 People who have it really, really well, they got it real good.

00:06:36.600 They need to invent things to complain about if they are in this kind of perverse society

00:06:42.200 whereby, or in which rather complaints and grievance has social currency.

00:06:49.060 There was an article in the LA Times, some commentary, the casual racism of mispronouncing

00:06:56.200 an Asian person's name.

00:06:57.440 They're really upset.

00:06:59.480 I actually followed this story a little bit because some of, some of my friends in the

00:07:02.320 theater community in LA, LA theaters, theater community has this ovation awards ceremony.

00:07:08.080 It's a smaller awards show for, for plays in the LA area.

00:07:12.280 And the organizers mispronounced the name of an Asian American nominee, and they displayed

00:07:19.520 the wrong photo of one of the actors.

00:07:22.000 You see the name, I forget.

00:07:23.380 The name is spelled J-U-L-L-Y, I believe, and they pronounced it jelly or something, but

00:07:28.240 it's really pronounced Julie.

00:07:29.260 And that's, this is a big problem.

00:07:34.640 Every single time that I go to a coffee shop in this country and I order a coffee and they

00:07:40.460 say, what's your name?

00:07:41.080 And I say, Michael, M-I-C-H-A-E-L.

00:07:43.600 That's how you spell Michael.

00:07:44.480 It's one of the most popular names in the world.

00:07:46.340 When I get my coffee, they spell it M-I-C-H-E-A-L.

00:07:49.420 Where is my reparations?

00:07:51.460 Where is my apology?

00:07:53.480 How, how can I even get out of bed in the morning?

00:07:55.540 I'm so offended.

00:07:58.040 No, it's not a big deal.

00:07:59.000 It just doesn't matter.

00:08:00.480 It's fine.

00:08:01.460 J-U-L-L-Y is an uncommon name in this country.

00:08:06.040 It is no surprise that somebody might mispronounce it.

00:08:10.480 Furthermore, there is something positively good about mispronouncing foreign names in this 0.99

00:08:17.660 country.

00:08:18.600 I have many ancestors who had foreign names when they got to this country.

00:08:23.140 I am glad that this country mispronounced those names.

00:08:26.960 My grandfather's last name is misspelled because when they went to Ellis Island, the guy at

00:08:33.540 Ellis Island didn't take the time.

00:08:34.920 He didn't really know what, how do you spell it?

00:08:36.300 How many N's? 0.99

00:08:36.860 How many S's?

00:08:37.380 What?

00:08:37.620 Okay.

00:08:37.860 Well, whatever.

00:08:38.280 Here's, here's your new last name.

00:08:39.380 I like that because America has a culture and when we take people into this culture, they

00:08:47.080 need to give up, maybe not their whole culture, but they need to give up part of it and they

00:08:50.400 need to get on board with this culture and they need to learn this language and they need

00:08:54.300 to renounce to some degree the land they've left if they really want to be part of this

00:08:58.980 country.

00:08:59.280 That's a good thing.

00:09:01.040 I'm glad.

00:09:02.400 It's wonderful to speak other languages.

00:09:04.620 I speak other languages.

00:09:05.760 It's wonderful to engage with other cultures.

00:09:08.420 I love doing that all the time, but we cannot expect the United States and the West more

00:09:14.960 broadly, uniquely to give away its identity and uniquely to apologize for sins that are

00:09:24.860 ubiquitous around the world and that frankly, other civilizations have committed to a far

00:09:29.000 greater extent.

00:09:30.500 You see this notably with slavery.

00:09:32.200 The, the, the liberals pretend that the West invented slavery or uniquely practiced slavery.

00:09:38.620 Of course that isn't true.

00:09:40.260 Slavery existed long before it came to the West and it existed long after.

00:09:44.960 It left the West and it existed and continues to exist even more viciously than it was practiced

00:09:50.900 in many parts of the West.

00:09:52.100 What's unique about the West is that we got rid of it in parts of Africa and parts of Asia. 0.99

00:09:59.220 It continues to be practiced today.

00:10:03.840 It's good to apologize when you do something wrong and it's good to forgive people when they

00:10:09.360 do something wrong to you.

00:10:10.700 That is according to the late conservative philosopher Roger Scruton, that is essential to

00:10:14.960 civilization.

00:10:16.060 So I like that.

00:10:16.680 I, I wish we lived in a culture right now where I, where I could apologize if I do something

00:10:20.280 wrong and you know, you would forgive me and that'd be fine.

00:10:22.500 When you apologize, you sacrifice your pride.

00:10:24.740 When you forgive someone, you sacrifice your resentment.

00:10:27.320 You both sacrifice something that means something to you and you move along together in society.

00:10:32.020 We don't live in that culture right now.

00:10:33.900 It is not in good faith. 0.57

00:10:37.540 You heard it from that crazy leftist at the top of the show who I think represents a lot 0.83

00:10:42.140 of people when she said, no, we want to burn it down. 0.97

00:10:45.000 It's good to loot. 0.51

00:10:45.960 It's good to burn down stores.

00:10:48.720 That's not a fringe opinion.

00:10:51.600 Kamala Harris bailed the people who actually burned down those stores out of jail. 0.84

00:10:55.960 She is the sitting vice president in that culture that does not agree that we should all continue

00:11:03.280 to get along together.

00:11:04.120 Then you can't simply, you know, we'll just forgive a little bit.

00:11:07.900 We'll move on.

00:11:09.200 We'll sacrifice our resentment.

00:11:10.640 No way.

00:11:11.900 Our society seems incapable of that right now.

00:11:14.260 It's, it's really nice to have an open, broad private sphere.

00:11:18.920 This is, this kind of the Republican politics of the last 20 years.

00:11:21.980 We made this neat distinction between the private sector and the public sector, right?

00:11:26.280 And the public sector, that's the government and government bad.

00:11:29.180 And the private sector, that's business, small business, big business, that's good.

00:11:33.580 And whatever business does, that's good.

00:11:35.540 And whatever government does, that's bad.

00:11:38.060 Well, what happens when the businesses start going just as woke, maybe more woke than the

00:11:44.220 government?

00:11:44.760 What happens when those private, allegedly private businesses start controlling the flow of

00:11:49.660 information around our public sphere?

00:11:52.360 What happens when those businesses start undermining our elections? 0.73

00:11:56.720 What happens when we're not all just trying to get along together to build something, but

00:12:00.880 actually even corporate America has been hijacked, has just rolled over into helping the radicals

00:12:09.200 burn down our society?

00:12:10.760 Are we going to throw up our hands and because of some shallow pseudo-conservative principles

00:12:18.240 say, well, you know, if the government wants to destroy our society and our election system,

00:12:21.420 we should just let that happen.

00:12:22.620 That's a good thing.

00:12:24.080 That's conservative.

00:12:25.120 Nothing more conservative than supporting terrorists who go around the country burning down our

00:12:29.760 buildings and undermining our elections.

00:12:31.700 No, I don't think so.

00:12:33.140 You have to push back.

00:12:35.280 You have to recognize that this fringe thing that we used to say, oh, it's just on the

00:12:41.100 campuses.

00:12:41.820 Wait until those radical snowflakes get into the real world.

00:12:44.520 Well, guess what?

00:12:45.060 The real world is now acquiescing to them.

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00:14:35.260 Senator Ted Cruz, I don't just say it because we host a show together.

00:14:39.880 I don't just say it because he's a friend of mine.

00:14:41.900 That guy sees where the Republican Party needs to go.

00:14:46.760 He does.

00:14:47.280 And he's not alone with him, Mike Lee, with him, Josh Hawley.

00:14:55.300 So by the way, this is not just a matter of a libertarian side or a more traditional conservative

00:15:02.400 side.

00:15:02.940 I mean, look at those two guys, Mike Lee, much more libertarian, Josh Hawley, much, much

00:15:06.820 more of a traditional conservative.

00:15:08.540 And Senator Cruz seems to be leading the pack here in particular in his attacks on the woke

00:15:14.880 corporations.

00:15:15.580 He's recognizing this isn't about one faction of the Republican Party or another faction.

00:15:19.820 This is about just seeing that we apply eternal principles to changing circumstances.

00:15:24.720 And the circumstances are such right now that we cannot let these woke corporations get

00:15:28.260 away with it, specifically Major League Baseball.

00:15:31.440 Listen to Senator Cruz.

00:15:32.760 This last month has seen a significant and indeed a dramatic change in our country and not a change

00:15:38.340 for the good.

00:15:40.340 This past month, we have seen the rise of the woke corporation.

00:15:44.340 We have seen the rise of big business enforcing a woke standard.

00:15:52.620 It's always been the case that big business wants to get in bed with big government.

00:15:57.980 It's always been the case that big business seeks handouts, seeks subsidies, seeks special

00:16:03.220 benefits at the expense of the little guy, at the expense of the small business.

00:16:08.080 But in the past month, these woke corporations have decided to become the political enforcer for

00:16:14.940 Democrats in Washington.

00:16:16.140 They've made the decision to get in bed, even at the price of spreading disinformation.

00:16:23.280 Bingo.

00:16:23.920 There it is.

00:16:24.600 You hear that key word there?

00:16:26.120 Standard.

00:16:28.640 Enforcer.

00:16:29.120 The woke corporations are pushing a radical standard on this country that is undermining

00:16:36.140 our country, specifically in the case of the MLB in Georgia.

00:16:38.260 They are trying to undermine election laws and the ability of the people of Georgia through

00:16:42.740 their representatives to protect the ballot box.

00:16:45.760 All at the behest of Democrats who want to undermine our election system.

00:16:50.280 Cruz, totally right.

00:16:51.820 Josh Hawley gets it too.

00:16:53.440 So it's time for a new round of trust busting in the United States.

00:16:57.360 Major League Baseball is a great place to start.

00:16:59.860 This is why I support Senator Lee's legislation.

00:17:01.640 Proud to join him and Senator Cruz on it.

00:17:03.780 It's time that we sent a clear signal that, first of all, there shouldn't be these dramatic

00:17:07.760 carve-outs in our antitrust laws, like the one the Supreme Court made up for Major League

00:17:12.360 Baseball.

00:17:13.360 And it's also time that we sent the signal that no corporation is above the law, that

00:17:18.620 no corporation should be able to be a power and a state unto itself, whether we're talking

00:17:22.860 about Major League Baseball or whether we're talking about big tech or big pharma or big

00:17:26.860 banks, all of these corporations exist to serve our democracy, the people of the United

00:17:32.880 States, and ultimately competition, free, open competition, is the guarantor of liberty.

00:17:39.120 It's what protects the people's liberty.

00:17:40.640 It's what protects our democratic process.

00:17:42.780 And we've got to act now to ensure that there is that free, robust competition again in all

00:17:48.260 sectors of our economy.

00:17:49.660 And Major League Baseball is a great place to start.

00:17:51.880 I'm delighted to join this legislation.

00:17:53.940 Big government is not the only problem.

00:17:56.540 Big tech is a problem.

00:17:57.900 Big corporate America is a problem.

00:18:00.180 Big, big, big.

00:18:01.940 Unlimited power in the hands of a few is the problem.

00:18:06.260 That is the progressive dream.

00:18:07.800 That's what Woodrow Wilson writes about explicitly when he says, what is progress?

00:18:11.400 Progress is taking our old system, which was under the laws of Newton, where we have eternal

00:18:15.940 laws governing an eternal nature, where we need checks and balances.

00:18:18.920 We're going to junk all of that because now we need an energetic organism of government

00:18:23.780 that is living under the laws of Charles Darwin.

00:18:29.160 And we need to ditch the old constitutional order and rev up so that we can move forward

00:18:35.680 into progress.

00:18:36.920 No, no, we don't.

00:18:38.940 There remain eternal laws, so this remains a fallen world.

00:18:42.420 And we need checks and balances.

00:18:44.720 I mean, even if you think of the divine right of kings, the claim of the divine right of

00:18:50.080 kings, even that involves a certain check, which is that the kings are subject to the

00:18:55.680 moral law, which is eternal.

00:18:57.220 And obviously, it's the highest power in the world.

00:18:59.960 They're subject to God.

00:19:01.260 They can't just do whatever they want.

00:19:02.800 But these liberals, these leftists won't even acknowledge that.

00:19:07.780 They won't even be checked by that.

00:19:09.600 This gets to something at the heart of the Republican and conservative tradition, which

00:19:15.220 is busting up big, unchecked power.

00:19:18.280 Cruz gets it.

00:19:19.640 Lee gets it.

00:19:20.880 Hawley gets it.

00:19:22.020 Why don't the rest of those guys in Washington get it?

00:19:25.360 Because that is the future of the GOP.

00:19:27.500 Get on board or get run over.

00:19:29.940 We are going to take these things much more seriously than in the past. 0.89

00:19:33.080 And we're going to break up those ossified, ridiculous slogans that pretend that woke

00:19:38.680 billionaires in Silicon Valley ought to do whatever they want, including undermine our 0.92

00:19:43.600 country.

00:19:44.020 No, I don't think so, buddy.

00:19:44.980 That seems kind of like a public sphere to me, too, no matter how much you want to pretend

00:19:48.260 it's private.

00:19:48.900 Speaking of the future of the GOP, talk about a big tent party.

00:19:53.060 Caitlyn Jenner is seriously considering running for governor of California, according to reports.

00:19:58.860 We had mentioned this about a week ago, that there was a rumor.

00:20:03.240 I didn't know if it was real or not.

00:20:04.740 Well, according to Politico, Caitlyn has hired up Ryan Irwin, who's a former top California

00:20:10.920 GOP official, had roles on Romney and Jeb Bush's presidential campaigns, hired up Harmeet

00:20:16.700 Dillon, a Republican National Committee member and a San Francisco attorney, hiring up Carolyn 0.94

00:20:24.200 Wren, longtime GOP fundraiser, and Brad Parscale, who was the ousted campaigner.

00:20:28.860 campaign manager for Trump 2020.

00:20:31.140 That seems a little bit more serious.

00:20:34.480 Now, how should one think about this?

00:20:37.760 Obviously, Caitlyn is quite mistaken about a fundamental aspect of human nature, namely

00:20:46.320 that men can't be women and women can't be men. 0.74

00:20:49.500 Though his views are a little more nuanced on this, but he gets that pretty wrong.

00:20:54.220 However, however, politics is pretty strange.

00:20:59.120 We vote for the most right viable candidate, to use Buckley's term, and I'm not convinced

00:21:04.920 that Caitlyn's views, even on transgenderism, are further left than Governor Pretty Boy, than

00:21:11.680 Mussolini up there.

00:21:13.180 I suspect Mussolini probably has further left views than Caitlyn Jenner.

00:21:18.080 Last I checked, I don't think Caitlyn Jenner supports pumping little kids full of hormones, 0.99

00:21:22.520 cross-sex hormones.

00:21:23.720 Could be wrong about that, but I don't think so.

00:21:25.600 And on a whole host of issues, Caitlyn, more conservative.

00:21:28.020 Now, there may be other people who get into the race, so I think we should hold off before

00:21:31.240 we start waving the Caitlyn Jenner signs.

00:21:33.280 And obviously, there comes a point when the party becomes so broad that you've undermined

00:21:38.040 your own principles.

00:21:39.280 If you're really going to exalt this idea that a man can become a woman, that might be too 1.00

00:21:44.080 harmful to the Republican Party broadly, and he can't do it.

00:21:48.520 But it would seem that Caitlyn is serious about running for governor.

00:21:54.400 We've seen stranger things in California before, and if he does want to do that, he's got to

00:21:58.800 get serious about wooing GOP voters.

00:22:00.860 Maybe California is ready to turn.

00:22:02.440 I don't know.

00:22:03.320 I always assumed that Newsom gets recalled, but then he survives the recall because there's

00:22:07.060 too many Democrats in the state, because they've been flooding the state with illegal immigrants 1.00

00:22:10.100 for a long time.

00:22:11.360 But maybe California is ready to turn.

00:22:12.940 I don't know.

00:22:14.220 Garcetti just went to opening day at Dodger Stadium.

00:22:16.660 He was there with a few other people.

00:22:18.500 Eric Garcetti is the mayor of Los Angeles, possibly the single worst mayor in the country.

00:22:23.040 He might be worse than Bolshevik Bill de Blasio in New York. 0.69

00:22:26.980 Well, when he went out there to Dodger Stadium, that guy got booed.

00:22:31.040 Please join me in welcoming Los Angeles mayor, Eric Garcetti, LA City Council member, Gil

00:22:38.020 Sidhu, Hall of Fame broadcaster, Jaime Harin, Dodger owner, Billie Jean King, and Dodger

00:22:46.200 owner, Irvin Magic Johnson.

00:22:51.040 Wow.

00:22:51.400 So you see, they're very clever here because they have five big people on stage and four

00:22:56.140 of them seem fairly popular.

00:22:58.080 So they get the applause at the end.

00:23:00.040 The first guy mentioned, though, is Garcetti.

00:23:01.780 And I think they know that Garcetti is going to get booed and you can hear it.

00:23:04.900 Eric Garcetti, boo.

00:23:06.640 And then all the other guys, Magic Johnson or whatever.

00:23:08.640 Yay.

00:23:09.140 We like Magic Johnson.

00:23:10.740 Right.

00:23:10.900 But they don't like Garcetti.

00:23:12.320 Maybe this means that California has had enough.

00:23:16.720 The pendulum takes a long time for that pendulum to swing.

00:23:19.260 Perhaps it is beginning to swing back.

00:23:21.620 How about at the national level?

00:23:24.080 There are a lot of people who could run for president in 2024.

00:23:27.520 It looks like Ron DeSantis wants to run.

00:23:29.320 I think he's all but all but ready to dye his hair blonde and run in the Trump lane.

00:23:33.360 And he's doing an excellent job down in Florida.

00:23:35.420 I have said on the show before, I've encouraged Senator Cruz to run for president.

00:23:40.300 As I've just said in this show, I think he sees where the Republican Party is going and

00:23:44.760 he's helping lead on it.

00:23:45.800 Hawley seems like he wants to run for president.

00:23:48.220 Nikki Haley seems like she wants to run for president. 1.00

00:23:51.260 And Nikki Haley, she got a lot of flack recently because she seemed to turn against President 0.99

00:23:56.660 Trump.

00:23:57.120 Well, who knows?

00:23:58.660 I mean, she was quoted in a Politico article.

00:24:00.740 So you take Politico with a grain of salt.

00:24:03.120 But Nikki Haley is quite clear now.

00:24:06.700 She says, no, Trump is the leader of the party.

00:24:10.060 And if President Trump decides to run in 2024, then I will not run.

00:24:16.320 That is a signal from former governor, former Ambassador Haley that the old Bush Republicans,

00:24:24.380 the Bushies, the old squishy Republicans, they, much to their chagrin, are not taking

00:24:29.620 back the party.

00:24:30.660 We are not going to be moving in that squishy direction.

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00:26:02.280 Nikki Haley is a good bellwether on where the GOP is headed because she has had support

00:26:21.320 among the moderate wing of the party before, but she's also had a lot of support among Trump

00:26:25.960 supporters.

00:26:26.960 And she lost a little bit of that support when a Politico article came out and she seemed to

00:26:31.320 dispute that Politico article.

00:26:33.060 So, and who knows, you know, the media, the media have lied before.

00:26:36.460 So who knows?

00:26:37.300 And in any case, she was just asked, would you run if Trump runs in 2024?

00:26:42.020 Here's her answer.

00:26:43.040 He still has a lot of popularity.

00:26:44.620 If he runs again in 2024, will you support him?

00:26:47.260 Yes.

00:26:48.880 If he decides that he's going to run, would that preclude any sort of run that you would

00:26:53.560 possibly make yourself?

00:26:54.460 I would not run as President Trump ran.

00:26:58.100 And I would talk to him about it.

00:26:59.720 You know, I mean, that's something that we'll have a conversation about at some point if that

00:27:03.220 decision is something that has to be made.

00:27:05.000 But yeah, I would absolutely.

00:27:06.500 I had a great working relationship with him.

00:27:09.320 I appreciated the way he let me do my job.

00:27:12.200 I thought we did some fantastically great foreign policy things together.

00:27:17.600 And look, I just want to keep building on what we accomplished and not watch it get torn down.

00:27:22.260 When was the last time that you talked to him?

00:27:26.280 After the election.

00:27:28.300 Before January 6th or after?

00:27:30.280 Before January 6th.

00:27:31.940 So notice here, she doesn't hesitate.

00:27:34.940 And the cynical people who already don't like Ambassador Haley, they'll say, oh, you know,

00:27:40.780 it's just opportunism.

00:27:41.840 Well, I don't know.

00:27:42.700 I mean, if it were just opportunism and she was trying to really just calculate exactly what

00:27:47.880 the answer should be, don't you think she might have paused a little bit?

00:27:50.280 She might have hesitated.

00:27:50.840 Well, I'd certainly talk to the president, but she doesn't hesitate.

00:27:54.340 So whatever the impulse is, I think she's showing excellent judgment here, not just on

00:27:59.320 the Trump of it all, but on the direction of the GOP.

00:28:03.040 She is recognizing what Senator Cruz is recognizing, what Josh Hawley is recognizing, what Ron DeSantis

00:28:09.780 is recognizing, which is that the future of the GOP is going to be in the conservative direction.

00:28:17.740 It's not going to be, oh, let's, you know, Asa Hutchinson says, we need to castrate kids

00:28:23.520 because we got to broaden the tent.

00:28:25.260 We got to have a big, broad party.

00:28:27.060 Bring new people in.

00:28:28.220 Uh-uh.

00:28:29.300 The impulse, I think, for the past 20 years was to reduce conservatism down to do whatever

00:28:36.000 you want.

00:28:37.080 Just do whatever you want.

00:28:38.240 Oh, we're the party of let big business run roughshod over our culture.

00:28:41.540 We're the party of mutilate your body, mutilate children, do engage in all manner of degeneracy.

00:28:48.960 Just, hey, just don't make me pay for it.

00:28:51.420 You know, the GOP was the party of permissiveness.

00:28:55.000 That was supposed to be the conservative tradition.

00:28:56.760 It hasn't conserved very much.

00:28:58.120 It hasn't conserved the ladies' restroom.

00:29:01.480 And now I think what a lot of people are waking up to is that there is a difference between

00:29:07.240 liberty and licentiousness.

00:29:08.380 There's a difference between our higher will and our lower will.

00:29:12.080 The clearest way to understand the difference between our higher will and our lower will

00:29:16.020 is when you go on a diet.

00:29:17.900 When you're on a diet, you get hungry.

00:29:19.740 Your lower will says, feed me, feed me, give me, give me, you know, your appetite's down

00:29:23.940 here.

00:29:24.560 But your higher will says, no, I want to lose weight.

00:29:27.480 I want to be more in control of my body.

00:29:29.360 And so you want your higher rational will to dominate because your rational will is the

00:29:34.880 intermediary between your lower base appetites and the divine will to which it is turned.

00:29:40.700 And you recognize, as our founding fathers did, that you need to cultivate that higher

00:29:44.700 will if you want to have true liberty.

00:29:46.360 And if you get rid of all that and you just give in to whatever desires, however disordered

00:29:50.160 they are, that is simply going to be licentiousness.

00:29:52.900 And it's going to totally undermine liberty.

00:29:55.840 You need to sometimes say no.

00:29:57.720 It's a little counterintuitive in our day and age, but if you want to be more free,

00:30:01.980 sometimes you have to say no.

00:30:04.240 This is an insight that I try to develop quite a lot in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling

00:30:08.400 Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order.

00:30:12.440 So Nikki Haley getting a lot of other politicians getting this. 1.00

00:30:18.340 Harry Reid on the Democrat side of the aisle.

00:30:21.720 Harry Reid, former Senate majority leader for Democrats.

00:30:25.000 Harry Reid says, look, there's a big radical agenda going on right now.

00:30:30.640 Jim Acosta on CNN is trying to get him to double down.

00:30:33.000 Yes, yeah, more radicalism.

00:30:34.480 Put the pedal to the metal.

00:30:35.820 But Harry Reid is a clever politician and he might see which way the political winds are

00:30:39.580 blowing.

00:30:40.360 And he urges Democrats, hey, be careful what you do now.

00:30:45.280 You might not be in power forever.

00:30:47.080 I think something sort of thought provoking came out of the Biden administration this past

00:30:51.900 week and it didn't get a lot of attention because there's so much going on

00:30:54.980 in the news.

00:30:55.700 He's now created a commission to look at adding seats to the Supreme Court, other ideas

00:31:00.300 that some progressives are pushing for.

00:31:03.080 They want to see the court's conservative majority be balanced.

00:31:08.160 Where do you stand on that?

00:31:09.460 Do you think it's a good idea to add seats to the Supreme Court?

00:31:12.000 I think it's we should be very, very careful in doing so.

00:31:17.320 I have no problem with the commission, but I think that the commission is going to come

00:31:22.660 back and disappoint a lot of people because I think they're going to come back and say

00:31:25.940 we should just kind of leave it alone.

00:31:27.860 I think it would be inappropriate at this time after that long history of that in the country

00:31:33.140 have term limits for judges.

00:31:36.200 I think that we better be very, very careful in saying that we need to expand the Supreme

00:31:42.760 Court.

00:31:43.080 I think we better be very, very careful.

00:31:45.740 I love Jim Acosta.

00:31:47.160 You could just see how crestfallen he becomes by this answer.

00:31:49.940 Shortly thereafter, he says, OK, well, see you, Harry Reid.

00:31:51.840 Bye.

00:31:52.440 Not the answer I was looking for.

00:31:54.040 But Harry Reid is not all of a sudden worried about the state of our country and coming

00:32:02.080 together in Kumbaya.

00:32:03.140 I mean, this is the guy who severely weakened the filibuster.

00:32:07.460 And Mitch McConnell famously said to him, you all, you're doing this today, but you're

00:32:11.560 not going to be in power and you're going to regret this sooner than you think.

00:32:17.000 Oh, say hello to my little friend.

00:32:20.260 And he was right, too, because then the Republicans came into power and pushed through a lot of

00:32:24.860 things that they wanted.

00:32:26.240 So Harry Reid, always willing to go pedal to the metal when he thinks he's got political

00:32:29.540 advantage.

00:32:30.220 But I think here what he's seeing is, gosh, there's a lot of discontent in this country

00:32:34.200 right now over immigration, over BLM terrorists burning the country to the ground, over pumping 0.99

00:32:39.200 little kids full of cross-sex hormones. 0.77

00:32:42.000 This is, people are not totally on board with the left's agenda.

00:32:45.560 The left has attained cultural hegemony, so they're able to wield a lot of influence,

00:32:49.240 even though they don't have a ton of popularity in terms of their policies.

00:32:53.900 But that's not going to last forever.

00:32:55.560 Eventually, the people are going to say no.

00:32:56.740 And he says, slow it down.

00:33:00.080 Harry Reid here, frankly, is giving me more hope than any of the other politicians of either

00:33:06.240 party, because I think he's a pretty good bellwether, too.

00:33:10.580 There's actually, unlike a lot of the news recently, I think there's actually a fair bit of reason

00:33:15.020 to hope.

00:33:15.760 You got the GOP signaling that they get that the future needs to be more conservative for

00:33:20.440 that party.

00:33:21.060 And you're getting Democrats saying, oh, hold on, gosh, maybe we're not as confident as

00:33:26.120 we're pretending that we are.

00:33:27.740 Speaking of urging caution, this news, we mentioned it very briefly yesterday, but it

00:33:32.100 bears a little bit more fleshing out.

00:33:34.060 The FDA and CDC are pausing one of the COVID vaccines, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

00:33:41.260 Here is their statement.

00:33:45.220 Quote, we are recommending a pause in the use of this vaccine out of an abundance of

00:33:51.440 caution.

00:33:52.200 As of April 12th, 6.8 million doses of the vaccine have been administered in the U.S.

00:33:58.360 CDC, in the U.S., rather, the CDC and FDA are reviewing data involving six reported U.S.

00:34:04.080 cases of a rare but severe type of blood clot in individuals after receiving the vaccine.

00:34:09.020 Right now, these adverse events appear to be extremely rare.

00:34:12.320 Okay.

00:34:13.380 So they're pausing it.

00:34:15.660 Now, I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.

00:34:21.520 There are two big arguments here, and they don't cut neatly across party lines.

00:34:24.420 There are some Republicans who are super into the vaccine, some who even seem to support

00:34:30.540 some kind of vaccine passport, and there are some left-wingers who maybe are a little bit

00:34:35.040 more skeptical of the vaccine.

00:34:36.320 So I think here, broadly, there are two camps.

00:34:38.220 You have people on one side saying, come on, it's only six cases.

00:34:42.720 The risk of blood clot from birth control drugs, from oral contraception is much higher.

00:34:47.100 No reason to pause it.

00:34:48.440 Let's keep pumping out that vaccine. 0.53

00:34:50.880 Then you have people on the other side saying, see, we told you so.

00:34:53.640 The vaccine isn't safe.

00:34:54.580 It was rushed through.

00:34:55.620 Nobody should take the vaccine.

00:34:57.520 And here I am, right in the middle, holding the same position I've held from the beginning,

00:35:03.260 which I think is being proven truer and truer each day, which is that anything you do in

00:35:09.120 politics and in your personal life is going to involve some degree of risk.

00:35:14.040 And a great key to politics, which none of the rationalists on either side, on the left

00:35:19.060 or on the right, want to acknowledge, is prudence.

00:35:23.440 Prudence is not just a virtue broadly.

00:35:25.680 It is specifically and especially a conservative virtue.

00:35:30.140 You weigh your risk.

00:35:31.720 If I were extremely obese and 85 years old, I would very likely take that vaccine because

00:35:38.940 I would feel that I had some risk, some serious risk of coronavirus.

00:35:42.040 If I am a relatively healthy 30-year-old, then I probably won't take the vaccine because

00:35:49.320 I don't think I'm at great risk.

00:35:51.060 And by the way, if, God forbid, if I get the virus, if, God forbid, I have some terrible

00:35:56.860 adverse side effect, do not let them write articles about me that say virus skeptic or vaccine

00:36:06.440 skeptic has a terrible adverse side effect or adverse consequence of the virus, don't

00:36:12.320 let them write those articles because I am acknowledging, I know that there is a risk,

00:36:16.880 but there's a risk in anything in life.

00:36:18.400 And I'm just making a risk calculation based on the numbers here, based on the data, the

00:36:23.420 science.

00:36:24.300 And I'm recognizing that I have a greater risk of getting in a car and driving to work than

00:36:29.600 I do from the coronavirus as a relatively healthy millennial.

00:36:32.520 It doesn't mean I have zero risk.

00:36:33.480 I'm just recognizing that all of life has a risk.

00:36:37.480 So it seems to me people ought to use their prudence and their judgment.

00:36:41.680 Now, President Trump, interestingly, came out and is very upset at the pause in the vaccine.

00:36:45.880 He says, the Biden administration had a terrible disservice to people throughout the world by

00:36:49.200 allowing the FDA and CDC to call a pause in the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

00:36:54.220 Dr. Fauci, on the other hand, is saying, I don't think it was pulling the trigger too

00:37:00.160 quickly to pause the vaccine.

00:37:01.980 We are ruled by the science and not any other consideration.

00:37:06.800 First of all, we are not ruled in this country by the science.

00:37:10.680 At least we're not supposed to be.

00:37:11.680 We are supposed to be ruled by ourselves within the confines of the constitution using our

00:37:16.140 higher reason.

00:37:18.160 The science, capital S with a trademark over the E, and its high priest, its pontiff, Dr.

00:37:23.880 Fauci, are not supposed to rule us.

00:37:26.200 And the science seems to change day by day by day.

00:37:29.460 The science would not have been a great guidepost in assessing your risk from the virus or from

00:37:37.320 the vaccine.

00:37:38.160 The science told us don't wear masks through the pontiff, Dr. Fauci.

00:37:42.200 Then, a few weeks later, the science told us you have to wear masks through the pontiff,

00:37:46.120 Dr. Fauci.

00:37:46.860 Then the science told us there's no risk whatsoever from the vaccine.

00:37:49.820 Then the science told us there is such a risk that they're going to pause the vaccine.

00:37:53.020 And they've said it's going to be a short pause, but then other people have said it

00:37:56.900 might be paused indefinitely.

00:37:59.400 So the science, quote unquote, is not going to guide you.

00:38:02.420 Your prudence and your higher faculties of reason will.

00:38:05.940 There's even dissent among the left on this.

00:38:08.720 Not on the vaccine specifically, but for instance, on the origin of the coronavirus.

00:38:13.500 The former CDC director, Robert Redfield, we played this on the show a couple weeks ago.

00:38:18.360 So he suspects, in just his private opinion, but he suspects that the virus had something

00:38:24.500 to do with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is a mile away from where the virus was

00:38:29.200 allegedly discovered.

00:38:31.780 This seems pretty reasonable to me.

00:38:33.980 The left has insisted, no, absolutely not.

00:38:36.180 It had nothing to do with the Wuhan Institute.

00:38:38.700 That's racist to say that it did.

00:38:40.960 It's just, it's from the wet markets in Wuhan.

00:38:43.140 You can't even call it the Wuhan virus.

00:38:45.440 How dare you say it?

00:38:46.140 Well, Dr. Sanjay Gupta on CNN is dissenting from his CNN colleagues.

00:38:51.020 He says, you know, there's a fair chance it came from that Institute.

00:38:54.840 He's an experienced virologist.

00:38:56.660 He was also head of the CDC at the time this was happening, which means that in addition

00:39:01.500 to everything that we know, he had access to raw data and raw intelligence that was coming

00:39:08.200 out of China.

00:39:08.720 And my point is that it's, it's a much more informed sort of thing for him to be saying

00:39:13.720 than for, you know, anybody who may have expertise in virology, because he has a lot more knowledge

00:39:20.180 and information that he has that maybe he can't share, but is informing his opinion.

00:39:24.600 I must've asked the question a dozen different ways.

00:39:27.040 And I, and I, and I gave a lot of escape hatches for him to, to really clarify, well, you know,

00:39:34.240 it's anybody's guess, whatever.

00:39:35.900 And he did, you know, he hedged a little bit.

00:39:37.680 He didn't come out and say a hundred percent this, this came from, but he, he really was

00:39:41.900 quite adamant that this, this is the origin of the virus.

00:39:44.640 You know, I mean, there's reason to suspect that this is the origin of the virus.

00:39:48.340 I mean, it's the only, it's a big virology lab right in Wuhan that happened to be studying

00:39:53.000 bad Corona viruses just from an Occam's razor standpoint, finding the simplest explanation,

00:39:58.660 it would make sense.

00:40:00.240 Also keep in mind that 14 months now, 15 months into this, we still don't know for certain

00:40:04.180 what the origin is.

00:40:06.140 Bingo.

00:40:06.760 Thank you.

00:40:07.340 Thank you, Dr. Gupta.

00:40:08.740 Thank you for being maybe the only person on CNN to exercise any prudence.

00:40:14.640 Reason, open-mindedness to what is right before one's eyes.

00:40:21.660 Yes, that does seem like a very likely, I'm not saying it's the definite cause, but it's

00:40:25.820 a very likely cause.

00:40:28.440 There is reason to suspect that that was the origin of the virus.

00:40:33.800 No two ways about it.

00:40:35.740 Now that might not be politically correct because the Biden administration and the left and liberal

00:40:41.040 establishment wants to have a good relationship with China, including big corporate America,

00:40:45.920 including the big sports leagues, which are selling out our country and our principles

00:40:50.240 to make an extra buck over in China.

00:40:54.060 But we should be able to call it like we see it.

00:40:57.420 We should be able to pursue the truth and to pursue our national interest.

00:41:02.340 That is a principled, virtuous stance, and people on the left and the right don't want

00:41:07.280 to do it.

00:41:07.740 But I think the future, if we're going to have a conservative future, it is going to be just

00:41:12.400 that, recognizing that we do have a national interest here and we ought to pursue truth,

00:41:17.440 not the delusions and fantasies of the left.

00:41:20.700 Speaking of medical advice, there was an article in the Washington Examiner, which I had to read

00:41:26.080 because I think it shows you the divergence between the old right-wing order and the new

00:41:32.360 right-wing order.

00:41:33.620 This one, I think, is representative of the old kind of squishy wing of the right over the

00:41:39.500 past 20 years.

00:41:41.160 The writer says, headline, he won't allow over-the-counter birth control, but Biden is pushing

00:41:47.280 risky at-home abortions.

00:41:48.920 So, to me, when I read that headline, I say, okay, so Biden's batting 500 here.

00:41:57.300 You know, allowing risky at-home abortions is bad, but hey, at least he won't allow over-the-counter

00:42:01.560 birth control.

00:42:02.060 But then I find, in the article, the author writes, quote, an easy solution here would be

00:42:07.400 to deregulate oral contraceptives so that uninsured women can acquire them over-the-counter,

00:42:11.280 reducing the pills list price over time, and reducing unplanned pregnancies among a demographic

00:42:15.340 least able to afford children.

00:42:17.200 Lucky for Biden, Senate Republicans, such as Joni Ernst of Ohio, of Iowa, rather, among

00:42:22.340 others, are on board with this.

00:42:24.160 That's the opposite of what we ought to do.

00:42:27.580 That is exactly the wrong conclusion.

00:42:32.200 Why?

00:42:32.860 Why, Michael? 0.98

00:42:33.580 Because you're a scold, a prude, a theocrat? 0.98

00:42:36.960 No. 0.96

00:42:38.340 Why would we make it easier, even than it already is?

00:42:41.720 It's extremely easy to access oral contraceptives.

00:42:44.700 Why would we make it easier?

00:42:45.720 Why would we make it easier so that underage girls can get them? 1.00

00:42:49.180 That would be one, that would be one consequence of over-the-counter oral contraceptives so that

00:42:55.660 we can further reduce our birth rate.

00:42:58.640 We already have a dying population.

00:43:00.060 We already have a very low birth rate.

00:43:01.260 Should we really do that?

00:43:02.400 So that we can further promote the hookup culture and the culture of casual sex that

00:43:07.900 has given rise to the Me Too movement and claims of epidemic sexual assault on campus around

00:43:12.760 the country because of that?

00:43:15.460 Because it makes women so much happier?

00:43:18.040 Because it makes families so much more stable?

00:43:20.920 No.

00:43:22.200 I don't...

00:43:23.120 It doesn't make any sense at all.

00:43:24.740 I'm making a prudential judgment here based on the actual circumstances of the country.

00:43:32.880 I'm not making some totally abstract rational argument, rationalist argument rather, whereby

00:43:37.700 the only principle in our politics is maximizing individual autonomy and individual liberty,

00:43:45.080 meaning our basest passions.

00:43:47.120 I'm just looking at the prudence of it.

00:43:48.900 Why would we do that?

00:43:49.620 That seems like it would be worse, right?

00:43:52.560 Sometimes to have greater freedom, you have to say no.

00:43:58.880 There is this common thread.

00:44:00.240 Have you noticed this to liberal activism, to left-wing activism, even among the sort of

00:44:04.360 libertarian or squishy types on the right?

00:44:06.480 They always seem to want fewer people.

00:44:09.340 You notice that?

00:44:09.940 They want legal abortion in the name of women's rights. 0.96

00:44:12.780 They want subsidized contraception or much even easier access than we already have to

00:44:17.600 contraception in the name of personal autonomy.

00:44:20.360 They want euthanasia in the name of mercy.

00:44:23.000 They want smaller families because of climate change or overpopulation, a completely made-up

00:44:27.960 problem. 0.98

00:44:29.160 They want to pump little kids full of hormones that will castrate them in the name of transgender 1.00

00:44:34.320 health. 0.61

00:44:35.680 So no matter what the argument, they always seem to want fewer people.

00:44:39.540 Isn't that weird?

00:44:40.760 Doesn't that make you think, huh, what is the metaphysical aspect going on?

00:44:46.720 What is the, dare I say it, spiritual underpinning of all these policies that seem to be so anti-human? 0.94

00:44:56.220 We've got one of the more ridiculous examples right now in Colorado. 0.65

00:44:59.520 Colorado might become the second state to legalize human composting and to allow human remains 0.84

00:45:05.960 to be composted after a person passes away.

00:45:08.920 Love you, grandma.

00:45:10.200 Love you, grandpa.

00:45:11.580 Hey, love you, great aunt Becky.

00:45:13.140 Hey, can't wait to put you in my garden.

00:45:16.360 Can't wait to eat tomatoes that sprout out of your liver or something. 0.90

00:45:19.240 No, gross.

00:45:20.060 That's bad.

00:45:21.160 And why is it bad?

00:45:22.360 Why is it bad?

00:45:25.720 I understand the rationalist argument for composting, grandma.

00:45:30.840 Okay, the rationalist argument is, look, come on, it's just, you're just taking a dirt nap,

00:45:34.500 just turn into worm food anyway.

00:45:36.400 Might as well get some heads of lettuce out of you. 1.00

00:45:39.960 Why, come on, we're all just stuff, we're all just matter, right?

00:45:43.080 We're all going to turn to dust anyway, right?

00:45:45.000 Even we are, from dust we are and to dust we shall return.

00:45:48.460 So why not just toss someone in the backyard, let the, let the wolves come and eat you. 0.95

00:45:53.020 Or let some, let some vegetables grow out of you.

00:45:58.340 There is a natural revulsion that we have at this.

00:46:01.100 It's what the bioethicist Leon Kass would call the wisdom of repugnance.

00:46:05.780 It seems anti-human.

00:46:08.620 Seems pretty undignified.

00:46:10.040 This is human dignity, according to the libs, is turning your grandma into mulch. 0.69

00:46:16.660 Let me ask you something.

00:46:17.840 If you're, if you're tempted to go along with the Colorado thing.

00:46:20.180 If you were walking along the street and you saw a dead body, would you kick it? 0.93

00:46:27.100 Would you spit on it? 0.93

00:46:28.960 Would you desecrate that body?

00:46:33.000 No, I bet you wouldn't.

00:46:34.900 If you, God forbid, stumbled on a member of your family, dead.

00:46:40.520 This has maybe happened to a number of people.

00:46:43.540 Would you attack that body? 0.97

00:46:47.280 Would you punch it? 0.99

00:46:47.980 Would you desecrate that body? 0.97

00:46:49.800 No, you wouldn't.

00:46:51.300 You just wouldn't do it.

00:46:52.720 Why not?

00:46:54.700 The rationalist in you would say, oh, it's just a hunk of flesh.

00:46:58.760 Well, the word desecrate tells you everything because you recognize that there is something

00:47:03.000 sort of sacred about the human person.

00:47:07.240 There's some hint of divinity there that man has made in the image of God.

00:47:12.400 That we treat even a dead body with certain special care.

00:47:17.040 That's why it's against the law to desecrate bodies.

00:47:20.180 Why is that?

00:47:21.460 Because we recognize, at least on some gut level, we used to recognize in our whole culture

00:47:25.380 that we're not just meat puppets.

00:47:28.580 We're not just worm food.

00:47:29.900 We're not just flesh.

00:47:31.860 We are not just our fleshy desires.

00:47:33.900 Our will is not just our fleshy desires.

00:47:35.640 We have spirit and soul, too.

00:47:39.460 And we have a higher rational faculty and a higher rational will, too.

00:47:45.380 And we need to treat humans as a little bit more special.

00:47:48.000 And we need to treat human society as more than just our appetites and our desires in the

00:47:55.320 economically rational, materialist, self-interested society.

00:48:02.140 We're more than that.

00:48:03.880 Culture is more than that.

00:48:06.060 Conservatism is more than just saving a couple bucks and letting people pursue whatever

00:48:11.040 disordered desires they have.

00:48:12.680 Well, what is it?

00:48:15.300 What's more than that?

00:48:16.820 I think it's pretty clear that our traditions, our rituals, our American way of life, our self-respect,

00:48:23.720 our dignity is what we're aiming at here.

00:48:26.940 And the conservatives who recognize that are giving us an opportunity for a future here,

00:48:32.780 a future for conservatives and a future for the country.

00:48:35.100 And the ones who don't recognize that are only driving faster or slower off the cliff on

00:48:42.340 the way to decline.

00:48:43.320 I'm Michael Knowles.

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Ep. 742 - Mau-Mauing The Flak Catchers

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