The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 742 - Mau-Mauing The Flak Catchers


Summary

Social justice warrior, Kim Brown, has a new show called Burn It Down with Kim Brown. She's here to remind us that the left is out to destroy, dismantle, and deconstruct everything that's good in the world.


Transcript

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00:00:37.720 I have said for a long time on this show that the left, through political correctness or wokeness or cancel culture or whatever,
00:00:43.920 is seeking purely to destroy, to dismantle, to deconstruct.
00:00:48.520 This is not a positive movement trying to build something.
00:00:51.360 It's just trying to tear stuff down.
00:00:52.820 And sometimes left-wingers say, Michael, that's not fair.
00:00:55.660 No, you're straw manning.
00:00:57.260 That's not true.
00:00:57.920 Well, one social justice warrior with a podcast, Kim Brown, her show is called Burn It Down with Kim Brown.
00:01:05.360 I think you can get the thesis of what that is.
00:01:07.400 She is acknowledging that what we're seeing right now in leftist activism is purely designed to destroy.
00:01:15.000 I support all that s***.
00:01:17.260 I support them looting the damn Dollar Tree.
00:01:21.040 I support the looting of what other s*** that they loot?
00:01:24.600 Like the advanced auto parts.
00:01:27.440 I remember last year they looted Target.
00:01:30.140 I support all that s***.
00:01:31.520 Loot all that s***.
00:01:32.460 Do you know why?
00:01:33.140 Because black people and marginalized and oppressed people could loot every store in this whole f***ing country for 200 f***ing years.
00:01:42.440 It would not even come close to the debt that America owes us.
00:01:47.400 But of course, that's not true.
00:01:49.020 America doesn't owe any people or any peoples anything.
00:01:53.180 Nothing.
00:01:53.960 Nunc, niente, nada.
00:01:55.840 This is true of the West more broadly.
00:01:57.720 The West, though the West flagellates itself and says, oh, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, the West does not owe anybody anything.
00:02:06.160 The West produced the greatest civilization in the history of the world, which has been an unfathomable blessing to the entire globe.
00:02:15.420 Unfortunately, the opinion that America and the West owe something to everybody else has gained a lot of currency on the left.
00:02:22.740 It has come to dominate our national conversation.
00:02:26.100 We're only focusing on these screaming radical leftists.
00:02:31.560 I hate to be a kicker.
00:02:32.800 I always long for peace.
00:02:34.260 But the wheel that squeaks the loudest is the one that gets the grease.
00:02:37.740 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:02:38.740 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:02:47.340 Welcome back to the show.
00:02:48.360 My favorite comment yesterday from Josh Pedrazza.
00:02:52.300 Pedrazza?
00:02:52.920 I don't know, something like that.
00:02:53.720 I'm trying to make it really Italian.
00:02:54.840 He says, if Fauci came down to Florida and saw the open bars, he would probably tear his cloak and yell, blasphemy, blasphemy.
00:03:03.560 He is the Caiaphas of our present religious order, the high priest of secular progressivism.
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00:04:20.660 Everybody is apologizing for things that they don't need to apologize for because of
00:04:26.880 the imagined transgressions of the West.
00:04:30.140 I'm not even talking about real transgressions, whatever every civilization has.
00:04:33.780 I'm talking about the imagined transgressions.
00:04:36.200 Hank Azaria, who is the voice actor from The Simpsons, he's the guy who does Apu.
00:04:42.320 If you haven't listened to The Simpsons, Apu is a guy who kind of talks like a stereotypical
00:04:46.160 Indian guy.
00:04:46.700 Apu is now, this is very racist.
00:04:51.060 If an Indian or Pakistani guy voices Apu, does the exact same voice, that, totally fine.
00:04:56.660 If a white guy like Hank Azaria does Apu, this very racist, terrible, Azaria just apologized
00:05:03.520 for the seven millionth time.
00:05:04.740 He said, quote, I really do apologize.
00:05:07.300 It's important.
00:05:08.580 I apologize for my part in creating that and participating in that.
00:05:13.280 Part of me feels like I need to go to every single Indian person in this country and personally
00:05:19.700 apologize.
00:05:20.860 And sometimes I do.
00:05:23.120 That is very pathetic.
00:05:24.760 That's sad.
00:05:25.920 That is neurotic.
00:05:27.700 You should seek professional help, Hank Azaria.
00:05:29.800 But it's also empty because Hank Azaria has made a lot of money on The Simpsons.
00:05:34.800 Last I checked, he hasn't been doling out $100 bills to every Indian guy that he meets on
00:05:42.000 the street.
00:05:42.440 He hasn't been donating, giving away all of his money.
00:05:45.900 He still enjoys the fruits of The Simpsons.
00:05:49.940 He just feels bad about it.
00:05:51.760 Just like so many masochistic people in the West, of all races, but especially the white
00:05:57.200 liberals, enjoy the fruits of the West.
00:06:00.080 They still enjoy this nice civilization.
00:06:01.680 They just want to denigrate it.
00:06:03.980 They want to deride it.
00:06:05.160 They want to apologize for it all the time.
00:06:09.040 Indian people are not offended by Apu.
00:06:12.420 I'm speaking only anecdotally here.
00:06:14.960 I have many Indian friends.
00:06:16.840 They are not, they don't think that Apu should be canceled.
00:06:19.840 Okay.
00:06:20.960 I don't think that Mario and Luigi should be canceled as a member of the Italian race,
00:06:27.660 or at least partially the Italian race.
00:06:29.640 I don't think so.
00:06:30.960 People who have it really, really well, they got it real good.
00:06:36.600 They need to invent things to complain about if they are in this kind of perverse society
00:06:42.200 whereby, or in which rather complaints and grievance has social currency.
00:06:49.060 There was an article in the LA Times, some commentary, the casual racism of mispronouncing
00:06:56.200 an Asian person's name.
00:06:57.440 They're really upset.
00:06:59.480 I actually followed this story a little bit because some of, some of my friends in the
00:07:02.320 theater community in LA, LA theaters, theater community has this ovation awards ceremony.
00:07:08.080 It's a smaller awards show for, for plays in the LA area.
00:07:12.280 And the organizers mispronounced the name of an Asian American nominee, and they displayed
00:07:19.520 the wrong photo of one of the actors.
00:07:22.000 You see the name, I forget.
00:07:23.380 The name is spelled J-U-L-L-Y, I believe, and they pronounced it jelly or something, but
00:07:28.240 it's really pronounced Julie.
00:07:29.260 And that's, this is a big problem.
00:07:34.640 Every single time that I go to a coffee shop in this country and I order a coffee and they
00:07:40.460 say, what's your name?
00:07:41.080 And I say, Michael, M-I-C-H-A-E-L.
00:07:43.600 That's how you spell Michael.
00:07:44.480 It's one of the most popular names in the world.
00:07:46.340 When I get my coffee, they spell it M-I-C-H-E-A-L.
00:07:49.420 Where is my reparations?
00:07:51.460 Where is my apology?
00:07:53.480 How, how can I even get out of bed in the morning?
00:07:55.540 I'm so offended.
00:07:58.040 No, it's not a big deal.
00:07:59.000 It just doesn't matter.
00:08:00.480 It's fine.
00:08:01.460 J-U-L-L-Y is an uncommon name in this country.
00:08:06.040 It is no surprise that somebody might mispronounce it.
00:08:10.480 Furthermore, there is something positively good about mispronouncing foreign names in this
00:08:17.660 country.
00:08:18.600 I have many ancestors who had foreign names when they got to this country.
00:08:23.140 I am glad that this country mispronounced those names.
00:08:26.960 My grandfather's last name is misspelled because when they went to Ellis Island, the guy at
00:08:33.540 Ellis Island didn't take the time.
00:08:34.920 He didn't really know what, how do you spell it?
00:08:36.300 How many N's?
00:08:36.860 How many S's?
00:08:37.380 What?
00:08:37.620 Okay.
00:08:37.860 Well, whatever.
00:08:38.280 Here's, here's your new last name.
00:08:39.380 I like that because America has a culture and when we take people into this culture, they
00:08:47.080 need to give up, maybe not their whole culture, but they need to give up part of it and they
00:08:50.400 need to get on board with this culture and they need to learn this language and they need
00:08:54.300 to renounce to some degree the land they've left if they really want to be part of this
00:08:58.980 country.
00:08:59.280 That's a good thing.
00:09:01.040 I'm glad.
00:09:02.400 It's wonderful to speak other languages.
00:09:04.620 I speak other languages.
00:09:05.760 It's wonderful to engage with other cultures.
00:09:08.420 I love doing that all the time, but we cannot expect the United States and the West more
00:09:14.960 broadly, uniquely to give away its identity and uniquely to apologize for sins that are
00:09:24.860 ubiquitous around the world and that frankly, other civilizations have committed to a far
00:09:29.000 greater extent.
00:09:30.500 You see this notably with slavery.
00:09:32.200 The, the, the liberals pretend that the West invented slavery or uniquely practiced slavery.
00:09:38.620 Of course that isn't true.
00:09:40.260 Slavery existed long before it came to the West and it existed long after.
00:09:44.960 It left the West and it existed and continues to exist even more viciously than it was practiced
00:09:50.900 in many parts of the West.
00:09:52.100 What's unique about the West is that we got rid of it in parts of Africa and parts of Asia.
00:09:59.220 It continues to be practiced today.
00:10:03.840 It's good to apologize when you do something wrong and it's good to forgive people when they
00:10:09.360 do something wrong to you.
00:10:10.700 That is according to the late conservative philosopher Roger Scruton, that is essential to
00:10:14.960 civilization.
00:10:16.060 So I like that.
00:10:16.680 I, I wish we lived in a culture right now where I, where I could apologize if I do something
00:10:20.280 wrong and you know, you would forgive me and that'd be fine.
00:10:22.500 When you apologize, you sacrifice your pride.
00:10:24.740 When you forgive someone, you sacrifice your resentment.
00:10:27.320 You both sacrifice something that means something to you and you move along together in society.
00:10:32.020 We don't live in that culture right now.
00:10:33.900 It is not in good faith.
00:10:37.540 You heard it from that crazy leftist at the top of the show who I think represents a lot
00:10:42.140 of people when she said, no, we want to burn it down.
00:10:45.000 It's good to loot.
00:10:45.960 It's good to burn down stores.
00:10:48.720 That's not a fringe opinion.
00:10:51.600 Kamala Harris bailed the people who actually burned down those stores out of jail.
00:10:55.960 She is the sitting vice president in that culture that does not agree that we should all continue
00:11:03.280 to get along together.
00:11:04.120 Then you can't simply, you know, we'll just forgive a little bit.
00:11:07.900 We'll move on.
00:11:09.200 We'll sacrifice our resentment.
00:11:10.640 No way.
00:11:11.900 Our society seems incapable of that right now.
00:11:14.260 It's, it's really nice to have an open, broad private sphere.
00:11:18.920 This is, this kind of the Republican politics of the last 20 years.
00:11:21.980 We made this neat distinction between the private sector and the public sector, right?
00:11:26.280 And the public sector, that's the government and government bad.
00:11:29.180 And the private sector, that's business, small business, big business, that's good.
00:11:33.580 And whatever business does, that's good.
00:11:35.540 And whatever government does, that's bad.
00:11:38.060 Well, what happens when the businesses start going just as woke, maybe more woke than the
00:11:44.220 government?
00:11:44.760 What happens when those private, allegedly private businesses start controlling the flow of
00:11:49.660 information around our public sphere?
00:11:52.360 What happens when those businesses start undermining our elections?
00:11:56.720 What happens when we're not all just trying to get along together to build something, but
00:12:00.880 actually even corporate America has been hijacked, has just rolled over into helping the radicals
00:12:09.200 burn down our society?
00:12:10.760 Are we going to throw up our hands and because of some shallow pseudo-conservative principles
00:12:18.240 say, well, you know, if the government wants to destroy our society and our election system,
00:12:21.420 we should just let that happen.
00:12:22.620 That's a good thing.
00:12:24.080 That's conservative.
00:12:25.120 Nothing more conservative than supporting terrorists who go around the country burning down our
00:12:29.760 buildings and undermining our elections.
00:12:31.700 No, I don't think so.
00:12:33.140 You have to push back.
00:12:35.280 You have to recognize that this fringe thing that we used to say, oh, it's just on the
00:12:41.100 campuses.
00:12:41.820 Wait until those radical snowflakes get into the real world.
00:12:44.520 Well, guess what?
00:12:45.060 The real world is now acquiescing to them.
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00:14:35.260 Senator Ted Cruz, I don't just say it because we host a show together.
00:14:39.880 I don't just say it because he's a friend of mine.
00:14:41.900 That guy sees where the Republican Party needs to go.
00:14:46.760 He does.
00:14:47.280 And he's not alone with him, Mike Lee, with him, Josh Hawley.
00:14:55.300 So by the way, this is not just a matter of a libertarian side or a more traditional conservative
00:15:02.400 side.
00:15:02.940 I mean, look at those two guys, Mike Lee, much more libertarian, Josh Hawley, much, much
00:15:06.820 more of a traditional conservative.
00:15:08.540 And Senator Cruz seems to be leading the pack here in particular in his attacks on the woke
00:15:14.880 corporations.
00:15:15.580 He's recognizing this isn't about one faction of the Republican Party or another faction.
00:15:19.820 This is about just seeing that we apply eternal principles to changing circumstances.
00:15:24.720 And the circumstances are such right now that we cannot let these woke corporations get
00:15:28.260 away with it, specifically Major League Baseball.
00:15:31.440 Listen to Senator Cruz.
00:15:32.760 This last month has seen a significant and indeed a dramatic change in our country and not a change
00:15:38.340 for the good.
00:15:40.340 This past month, we have seen the rise of the woke corporation.
00:15:44.340 We have seen the rise of big business enforcing a woke standard.
00:15:52.620 It's always been the case that big business wants to get in bed with big government.
00:15:57.980 It's always been the case that big business seeks handouts, seeks subsidies, seeks special
00:16:03.220 benefits at the expense of the little guy, at the expense of the small business.
00:16:08.080 But in the past month, these woke corporations have decided to become the political enforcer for
00:16:14.940 Democrats in Washington.
00:16:16.140 They've made the decision to get in bed, even at the price of spreading disinformation.
00:16:23.280 Bingo.
00:16:23.920 There it is.
00:16:24.600 You hear that key word there?
00:16:26.120 Standard.
00:16:28.640 Enforcer.
00:16:29.120 The woke corporations are pushing a radical standard on this country that is undermining
00:16:36.140 our country, specifically in the case of the MLB in Georgia.
00:16:38.260 They are trying to undermine election laws and the ability of the people of Georgia through
00:16:42.740 their representatives to protect the ballot box.
00:16:45.760 All at the behest of Democrats who want to undermine our election system.
00:16:50.280 Cruz, totally right.
00:16:51.820 Josh Hawley gets it too.
00:16:53.440 So it's time for a new round of trust busting in the United States.
00:16:57.360 Major League Baseball is a great place to start.
00:16:59.860 This is why I support Senator Lee's legislation.
00:17:01.640 Proud to join him and Senator Cruz on it.
00:17:03.780 It's time that we sent a clear signal that, first of all, there shouldn't be these dramatic
00:17:07.760 carve-outs in our antitrust laws, like the one the Supreme Court made up for Major League
00:17:12.360 Baseball.
00:17:13.360 And it's also time that we sent the signal that no corporation is above the law, that
00:17:18.620 no corporation should be able to be a power and a state unto itself, whether we're talking
00:17:22.860 about Major League Baseball or whether we're talking about big tech or big pharma or big
00:17:26.860 banks, all of these corporations exist to serve our democracy, the people of the United
00:17:32.880 States, and ultimately competition, free, open competition, is the guarantor of liberty.
00:17:39.120 It's what protects the people's liberty.
00:17:40.640 It's what protects our democratic process.
00:17:42.780 And we've got to act now to ensure that there is that free, robust competition again in all
00:17:48.260 sectors of our economy.
00:17:49.660 And Major League Baseball is a great place to start.
00:17:51.880 I'm delighted to join this legislation.
00:17:53.940 Big government is not the only problem.
00:17:56.540 Big tech is a problem.
00:17:57.900 Big corporate America is a problem.
00:18:00.180 Big, big, big.
00:18:01.940 Unlimited power in the hands of a few is the problem.
00:18:06.260 That is the progressive dream.
00:18:07.800 That's what Woodrow Wilson writes about explicitly when he says, what is progress?
00:18:11.400 Progress is taking our old system, which was under the laws of Newton, where we have eternal
00:18:15.940 laws governing an eternal nature, where we need checks and balances.
00:18:18.920 We're going to junk all of that because now we need an energetic organism of government
00:18:23.780 that is living under the laws of Charles Darwin.
00:18:29.160 And we need to ditch the old constitutional order and rev up so that we can move forward
00:18:35.680 into progress.
00:18:36.920 No, no, we don't.
00:18:38.940 There remain eternal laws, so this remains a fallen world.
00:18:42.420 And we need checks and balances.
00:18:44.720 I mean, even if you think of the divine right of kings, the claim of the divine right of
00:18:50.080 kings, even that involves a certain check, which is that the kings are subject to the
00:18:55.680 moral law, which is eternal.
00:18:57.220 And obviously, it's the highest power in the world.
00:18:59.960 They're subject to God.
00:19:01.260 They can't just do whatever they want.
00:19:02.800 But these liberals, these leftists won't even acknowledge that.
00:19:07.780 They won't even be checked by that.
00:19:09.600 This gets to something at the heart of the Republican and conservative tradition, which
00:19:15.220 is busting up big, unchecked power.
00:19:18.280 Cruz gets it.
00:19:19.640 Lee gets it.
00:19:20.880 Hawley gets it.
00:19:22.020 Why don't the rest of those guys in Washington get it?
00:19:25.360 Because that is the future of the GOP.
00:19:27.500 Get on board or get run over.
00:19:29.940 We are going to take these things much more seriously than in the past.
00:19:33.080 And we're going to break up those ossified, ridiculous slogans that pretend that woke
00:19:38.680 billionaires in Silicon Valley ought to do whatever they want, including undermine our
00:19:43.600 country.
00:19:44.020 No, I don't think so, buddy.
00:19:44.980 That seems kind of like a public sphere to me, too, no matter how much you want to pretend
00:19:48.260 it's private.
00:19:48.900 Speaking of the future of the GOP, talk about a big tent party.
00:19:53.060 Caitlyn Jenner is seriously considering running for governor of California, according to reports.
00:19:58.860 We had mentioned this about a week ago, that there was a rumor.
00:20:03.240 I didn't know if it was real or not.
00:20:04.740 Well, according to Politico, Caitlyn has hired up Ryan Irwin, who's a former top California
00:20:10.920 GOP official, had roles on Romney and Jeb Bush's presidential campaigns, hired up Harmeet
00:20:16.700 Dillon, a Republican National Committee member and a San Francisco attorney, hiring up Carolyn
00:20:24.200 Wren, longtime GOP fundraiser, and Brad Parscale, who was the ousted campaigner.
00:20:28.860 campaign manager for Trump 2020.
00:20:31.140 That seems a little bit more serious.
00:20:34.480 Now, how should one think about this?
00:20:37.760 Obviously, Caitlyn is quite mistaken about a fundamental aspect of human nature, namely
00:20:46.320 that men can't be women and women can't be men.
00:20:49.500 Though his views are a little more nuanced on this, but he gets that pretty wrong.
00:20:54.220 However, however, politics is pretty strange.
00:20:59.120 We vote for the most right viable candidate, to use Buckley's term, and I'm not convinced
00:21:04.920 that Caitlyn's views, even on transgenderism, are further left than Governor Pretty Boy, than
00:21:11.680 Mussolini up there.
00:21:13.180 I suspect Mussolini probably has further left views than Caitlyn Jenner.
00:21:18.080 Last I checked, I don't think Caitlyn Jenner supports pumping little kids full of hormones,
00:21:22.520 cross-sex hormones.
00:21:23.720 Could be wrong about that, but I don't think so.
00:21:25.600 And on a whole host of issues, Caitlyn, more conservative.
00:21:28.020 Now, there may be other people who get into the race, so I think we should hold off before
00:21:31.240 we start waving the Caitlyn Jenner signs.
00:21:33.280 And obviously, there comes a point when the party becomes so broad that you've undermined
00:21:38.040 your own principles.
00:21:39.280 If you're really going to exalt this idea that a man can become a woman, that might be too
00:21:44.080 harmful to the Republican Party broadly, and he can't do it.
00:21:48.520 But it would seem that Caitlyn is serious about running for governor.
00:21:54.400 We've seen stranger things in California before, and if he does want to do that, he's got to
00:21:58.800 get serious about wooing GOP voters.
00:22:00.860 Maybe California is ready to turn.
00:22:02.440 I don't know.
00:22:03.320 I always assumed that Newsom gets recalled, but then he survives the recall because there's
00:22:07.060 too many Democrats in the state, because they've been flooding the state with illegal immigrants
00:22:10.100 for a long time.
00:22:11.360 But maybe California is ready to turn.
00:22:12.940 I don't know.
00:22:14.220 Garcetti just went to opening day at Dodger Stadium.
00:22:16.660 He was there with a few other people.
00:22:18.500 Eric Garcetti is the mayor of Los Angeles, possibly the single worst mayor in the country.
00:22:23.040 He might be worse than Bolshevik Bill de Blasio in New York.
00:22:26.980 Well, when he went out there to Dodger Stadium, that guy got booed.
00:22:31.040 Please join me in welcoming Los Angeles mayor, Eric Garcetti, LA City Council member, Gil
00:22:38.020 Sidhu, Hall of Fame broadcaster, Jaime Harin, Dodger owner, Billie Jean King, and Dodger
00:22:46.200 owner, Irvin Magic Johnson.
00:22:51.040 Wow.
00:22:51.400 So you see, they're very clever here because they have five big people on stage and four
00:22:56.140 of them seem fairly popular.
00:22:58.080 So they get the applause at the end.
00:23:00.040 The first guy mentioned, though, is Garcetti.
00:23:01.780 And I think they know that Garcetti is going to get booed and you can hear it.
00:23:04.900 Eric Garcetti, boo.
00:23:06.640 And then all the other guys, Magic Johnson or whatever.
00:23:08.640 Yay.
00:23:09.140 We like Magic Johnson.
00:23:10.740 Right.
00:23:10.900 But they don't like Garcetti.
00:23:12.320 Maybe this means that California has had enough.
00:23:16.720 The pendulum takes a long time for that pendulum to swing.
00:23:19.260 Perhaps it is beginning to swing back.
00:23:21.620 How about at the national level?
00:23:24.080 There are a lot of people who could run for president in 2024.
00:23:27.520 It looks like Ron DeSantis wants to run.
00:23:29.320 I think he's all but all but ready to dye his hair blonde and run in the Trump lane.
00:23:33.360 And he's doing an excellent job down in Florida.
00:23:35.420 I have said on the show before, I've encouraged Senator Cruz to run for president.
00:23:40.300 As I've just said in this show, I think he sees where the Republican Party is going and
00:23:44.760 he's helping lead on it.
00:23:45.800 Hawley seems like he wants to run for president.
00:23:48.220 Nikki Haley seems like she wants to run for president.
00:23:51.260 And Nikki Haley, she got a lot of flack recently because she seemed to turn against President
00:23:56.660 Trump.
00:23:57.120 Well, who knows?
00:23:58.660 I mean, she was quoted in a Politico article.
00:24:00.740 So you take Politico with a grain of salt.
00:24:03.120 But Nikki Haley is quite clear now.
00:24:06.700 She says, no, Trump is the leader of the party.
00:24:10.060 And if President Trump decides to run in 2024, then I will not run.
00:24:16.320 That is a signal from former governor, former Ambassador Haley that the old Bush Republicans,
00:24:24.380 the Bushies, the old squishy Republicans, they, much to their chagrin, are not taking
00:24:29.620 back the party.
00:24:30.660 We are not going to be moving in that squishy direction.
00:24:32.980 The future of the GOP, if it is to have a future, is to become more conservative.
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00:26:02.280 Nikki Haley is a good bellwether on where the GOP is headed because she has had support
00:26:21.320 among the moderate wing of the party before, but she's also had a lot of support among Trump
00:26:25.960 supporters.
00:26:26.960 And she lost a little bit of that support when a Politico article came out and she seemed to
00:26:31.320 dispute that Politico article.
00:26:33.060 So, and who knows, you know, the media, the media have lied before.
00:26:36.460 So who knows?
00:26:37.300 And in any case, she was just asked, would you run if Trump runs in 2024?
00:26:42.020 Here's her answer.
00:26:43.040 He still has a lot of popularity.
00:26:44.620 If he runs again in 2024, will you support him?
00:26:47.260 Yes.
00:26:48.880 If he decides that he's going to run, would that preclude any sort of run that you would
00:26:53.560 possibly make yourself?
00:26:54.460 I would not run as President Trump ran.
00:26:58.100 And I would talk to him about it.
00:26:59.720 You know, I mean, that's something that we'll have a conversation about at some point if that
00:27:03.220 decision is something that has to be made.
00:27:05.000 But yeah, I would absolutely.
00:27:06.500 I had a great working relationship with him.
00:27:09.320 I appreciated the way he let me do my job.
00:27:12.200 I thought we did some fantastically great foreign policy things together.
00:27:17.600 And look, I just want to keep building on what we accomplished and not watch it get torn down.
00:27:22.260 When was the last time that you talked to him?
00:27:26.280 After the election.
00:27:28.300 Before January 6th or after?
00:27:30.280 Before January 6th.
00:27:31.940 So notice here, she doesn't hesitate.
00:27:34.940 And the cynical people who already don't like Ambassador Haley, they'll say, oh, you know,
00:27:40.780 it's just opportunism.
00:27:41.840 Well, I don't know.
00:27:42.700 I mean, if it were just opportunism and she was trying to really just calculate exactly what
00:27:47.880 the answer should be, don't you think she might have paused a little bit?
00:27:50.280 She might have hesitated.
00:27:50.840 Well, I'd certainly talk to the president, but she doesn't hesitate.
00:27:54.340 So whatever the impulse is, I think she's showing excellent judgment here, not just on
00:27:59.320 the Trump of it all, but on the direction of the GOP.
00:28:03.040 She is recognizing what Senator Cruz is recognizing, what Josh Hawley is recognizing, what Ron DeSantis
00:28:09.780 is recognizing, which is that the future of the GOP is going to be in the conservative direction.
00:28:17.740 It's not going to be, oh, let's, you know, Asa Hutchinson says, we need to castrate kids
00:28:23.520 because we got to broaden the tent.
00:28:25.260 We got to have a big, broad party.
00:28:27.060 Bring new people in.
00:28:28.220 Uh-uh.
00:28:29.300 The impulse, I think, for the past 20 years was to reduce conservatism down to do whatever
00:28:36.000 you want.
00:28:37.080 Just do whatever you want.
00:28:38.240 Oh, we're the party of let big business run roughshod over our culture.
00:28:41.540 We're the party of mutilate your body, mutilate children, do engage in all manner of degeneracy.
00:28:48.960 Just, hey, just don't make me pay for it.
00:28:51.420 You know, the GOP was the party of permissiveness.
00:28:55.000 That was supposed to be the conservative tradition.
00:28:56.760 It hasn't conserved very much.
00:28:58.120 It hasn't conserved the ladies' restroom.
00:29:01.480 And now I think what a lot of people are waking up to is that there is a difference between
00:29:07.240 liberty and licentiousness.
00:29:08.380 There's a difference between our higher will and our lower will.
00:29:12.080 The clearest way to understand the difference between our higher will and our lower will
00:29:16.020 is when you go on a diet.
00:29:17.900 When you're on a diet, you get hungry.
00:29:19.740 Your lower will says, feed me, feed me, give me, give me, you know, your appetite's down
00:29:23.940 here.
00:29:24.560 But your higher will says, no, I want to lose weight.
00:29:27.480 I want to be more in control of my body.
00:29:29.360 And so you want your higher rational will to dominate because your rational will is the
00:29:34.880 intermediary between your lower base appetites and the divine will to which it is turned.
00:29:40.700 And you recognize, as our founding fathers did, that you need to cultivate that higher
00:29:44.700 will if you want to have true liberty.
00:29:46.360 And if you get rid of all that and you just give in to whatever desires, however disordered
00:29:50.160 they are, that is simply going to be licentiousness.
00:29:52.900 And it's going to totally undermine liberty.
00:29:55.840 You need to sometimes say no.
00:29:57.720 It's a little counterintuitive in our day and age, but if you want to be more free,
00:30:01.980 sometimes you have to say no.
00:30:04.240 This is an insight that I try to develop quite a lot in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling
00:30:08.400 Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order.
00:30:12.440 So Nikki Haley getting a lot of other politicians getting this.
00:30:18.340 Harry Reid on the Democrat side of the aisle.
00:30:21.720 Harry Reid, former Senate majority leader for Democrats.
00:30:25.000 Harry Reid says, look, there's a big radical agenda going on right now.
00:30:30.640 Jim Acosta on CNN is trying to get him to double down.
00:30:33.000 Yes, yeah, more radicalism.
00:30:34.480 Put the pedal to the metal.
00:30:35.820 But Harry Reid is a clever politician and he might see which way the political winds are
00:30:39.580 blowing.
00:30:40.360 And he urges Democrats, hey, be careful what you do now.
00:30:45.280 You might not be in power forever.
00:30:47.080 I think something sort of thought provoking came out of the Biden administration this past
00:30:51.900 week and it didn't get a lot of attention because there's so much going on
00:30:54.980 in the news.
00:30:55.700 He's now created a commission to look at adding seats to the Supreme Court, other ideas
00:31:00.300 that some progressives are pushing for.
00:31:03.080 They want to see the court's conservative majority be balanced.
00:31:08.160 Where do you stand on that?
00:31:09.460 Do you think it's a good idea to add seats to the Supreme Court?
00:31:12.000 I think it's we should be very, very careful in doing so.
00:31:17.320 I have no problem with the commission, but I think that the commission is going to come
00:31:22.660 back and disappoint a lot of people because I think they're going to come back and say
00:31:25.940 we should just kind of leave it alone.
00:31:27.860 I think it would be inappropriate at this time after that long history of that in the country
00:31:33.140 have term limits for judges.
00:31:36.200 I think that we better be very, very careful in saying that we need to expand the Supreme
00:31:42.760 Court.
00:31:43.080 I think we better be very, very careful.
00:31:45.740 I love Jim Acosta.
00:31:47.160 You could just see how crestfallen he becomes by this answer.
00:31:49.940 Shortly thereafter, he says, OK, well, see you, Harry Reid.
00:31:51.840 Bye.
00:31:52.440 Not the answer I was looking for.
00:31:54.040 But Harry Reid is not all of a sudden worried about the state of our country and coming
00:32:02.080 together in Kumbaya.
00:32:03.140 I mean, this is the guy who severely weakened the filibuster.
00:32:07.460 And Mitch McConnell famously said to him, you all, you're doing this today, but you're
00:32:11.560 not going to be in power and you're going to regret this sooner than you think.
00:32:17.000 Oh, say hello to my little friend.
00:32:20.260 And he was right, too, because then the Republicans came into power and pushed through a lot of
00:32:24.860 things that they wanted.
00:32:26.240 So Harry Reid, always willing to go pedal to the metal when he thinks he's got political
00:32:29.540 advantage.
00:32:30.220 But I think here what he's seeing is, gosh, there's a lot of discontent in this country
00:32:34.200 right now over immigration, over BLM terrorists burning the country to the ground, over pumping
00:32:39.200 little kids full of cross-sex hormones.
00:32:42.000 This is, people are not totally on board with the left's agenda.
00:32:45.560 The left has attained cultural hegemony, so they're able to wield a lot of influence,
00:32:49.240 even though they don't have a ton of popularity in terms of their policies.
00:32:53.900 But that's not going to last forever.
00:32:55.560 Eventually, the people are going to say no.
00:32:56.740 And he says, slow it down.
00:33:00.080 Harry Reid here, frankly, is giving me more hope than any of the other politicians of either
00:33:06.240 party, because I think he's a pretty good bellwether, too.
00:33:10.580 There's actually, unlike a lot of the news recently, I think there's actually a fair bit of reason
00:33:15.020 to hope.
00:33:15.760 You got the GOP signaling that they get that the future needs to be more conservative for
00:33:20.440 that party.
00:33:21.060 And you're getting Democrats saying, oh, hold on, gosh, maybe we're not as confident as
00:33:26.120 we're pretending that we are.
00:33:27.740 Speaking of urging caution, this news, we mentioned it very briefly yesterday, but it
00:33:32.100 bears a little bit more fleshing out.
00:33:34.060 The FDA and CDC are pausing one of the COVID vaccines, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
00:33:41.260 Here is their statement.
00:33:45.220 Quote, we are recommending a pause in the use of this vaccine out of an abundance of
00:33:51.440 caution.
00:33:52.200 As of April 12th, 6.8 million doses of the vaccine have been administered in the U.S.
00:33:58.360 CDC, in the U.S., rather, the CDC and FDA are reviewing data involving six reported U.S.
00:34:04.080 cases of a rare but severe type of blood clot in individuals after receiving the vaccine.
00:34:09.020 Right now, these adverse events appear to be extremely rare.
00:34:12.320 Okay.
00:34:13.380 So they're pausing it.
00:34:15.660 Now, I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.
00:34:21.520 There are two big arguments here, and they don't cut neatly across party lines.
00:34:24.420 There are some Republicans who are super into the vaccine, some who even seem to support
00:34:30.540 some kind of vaccine passport, and there are some left-wingers who maybe are a little bit
00:34:35.040 more skeptical of the vaccine.
00:34:36.320 So I think here, broadly, there are two camps.
00:34:38.220 You have people on one side saying, come on, it's only six cases.
00:34:42.720 The risk of blood clot from birth control drugs, from oral contraception is much higher.
00:34:47.100 No reason to pause it.
00:34:48.440 Let's keep pumping out that vaccine.
00:34:50.880 Then you have people on the other side saying, see, we told you so.
00:34:53.640 The vaccine isn't safe.
00:34:54.580 It was rushed through.
00:34:55.620 Nobody should take the vaccine.
00:34:57.520 And here I am, right in the middle, holding the same position I've held from the beginning,
00:35:03.260 which I think is being proven truer and truer each day, which is that anything you do in
00:35:09.120 politics and in your personal life is going to involve some degree of risk.
00:35:14.040 And a great key to politics, which none of the rationalists on either side, on the left
00:35:19.060 or on the right, want to acknowledge, is prudence.
00:35:23.440 Prudence is not just a virtue broadly.
00:35:25.680 It is specifically and especially a conservative virtue.
00:35:30.140 You weigh your risk.
00:35:31.720 If I were extremely obese and 85 years old, I would very likely take that vaccine because
00:35:38.940 I would feel that I had some risk, some serious risk of coronavirus.
00:35:42.040 If I am a relatively healthy 30-year-old, then I probably won't take the vaccine because
00:35:49.320 I don't think I'm at great risk.
00:35:51.060 And by the way, if, God forbid, if I get the virus, if, God forbid, I have some terrible
00:35:56.860 adverse side effect, do not let them write articles about me that say virus skeptic or vaccine
00:36:06.440 skeptic has a terrible adverse side effect or adverse consequence of the virus, don't
00:36:12.320 let them write those articles because I am acknowledging, I know that there is a risk,
00:36:16.880 but there's a risk in anything in life.
00:36:18.400 And I'm just making a risk calculation based on the numbers here, based on the data, the
00:36:23.420 science.
00:36:24.300 And I'm recognizing that I have a greater risk of getting in a car and driving to work than
00:36:29.600 I do from the coronavirus as a relatively healthy millennial.
00:36:32.520 It doesn't mean I have zero risk.
00:36:33.480 I'm just recognizing that all of life has a risk.
00:36:37.480 So it seems to me people ought to use their prudence and their judgment.
00:36:41.680 Now, President Trump, interestingly, came out and is very upset at the pause in the vaccine.
00:36:45.880 He says, the Biden administration had a terrible disservice to people throughout the world by
00:36:49.200 allowing the FDA and CDC to call a pause in the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
00:36:54.220 Dr. Fauci, on the other hand, is saying, I don't think it was pulling the trigger too
00:37:00.160 quickly to pause the vaccine.
00:37:01.980 We are ruled by the science and not any other consideration.
00:37:06.800 First of all, we are not ruled in this country by the science.
00:37:10.680 At least we're not supposed to be.
00:37:11.680 We are supposed to be ruled by ourselves within the confines of the constitution using our
00:37:16.140 higher reason.
00:37:18.160 The science, capital S with a trademark over the E, and its high priest, its pontiff, Dr.
00:37:23.880 Fauci, are not supposed to rule us.
00:37:26.200 And the science seems to change day by day by day.
00:37:29.460 The science would not have been a great guidepost in assessing your risk from the virus or from
00:37:37.320 the vaccine.
00:37:38.160 The science told us don't wear masks through the pontiff, Dr. Fauci.
00:37:42.200 Then, a few weeks later, the science told us you have to wear masks through the pontiff,
00:37:46.120 Dr. Fauci.
00:37:46.860 Then the science told us there's no risk whatsoever from the vaccine.
00:37:49.820 Then the science told us there is such a risk that they're going to pause the vaccine.
00:37:53.020 And they've said it's going to be a short pause, but then other people have said it
00:37:56.900 might be paused indefinitely.
00:37:59.400 So the science, quote unquote, is not going to guide you.
00:38:02.420 Your prudence and your higher faculties of reason will.
00:38:05.940 There's even dissent among the left on this.
00:38:08.720 Not on the vaccine specifically, but for instance, on the origin of the coronavirus.
00:38:13.500 The former CDC director, Robert Redfield, we played this on the show a couple weeks ago.
00:38:18.360 So he suspects, in just his private opinion, but he suspects that the virus had something
00:38:24.500 to do with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is a mile away from where the virus was
00:38:29.200 allegedly discovered.
00:38:31.780 This seems pretty reasonable to me.
00:38:33.980 The left has insisted, no, absolutely not.
00:38:36.180 It had nothing to do with the Wuhan Institute.
00:38:38.700 That's racist to say that it did.
00:38:40.960 It's just, it's from the wet markets in Wuhan.
00:38:43.140 You can't even call it the Wuhan virus.
00:38:45.440 How dare you say it?
00:38:46.140 Well, Dr. Sanjay Gupta on CNN is dissenting from his CNN colleagues.
00:38:51.020 He says, you know, there's a fair chance it came from that Institute.
00:38:54.840 He's an experienced virologist.
00:38:56.660 He was also head of the CDC at the time this was happening, which means that in addition
00:39:01.500 to everything that we know, he had access to raw data and raw intelligence that was coming
00:39:08.200 out of China.
00:39:08.720 And my point is that it's, it's a much more informed sort of thing for him to be saying
00:39:13.720 than for, you know, anybody who may have expertise in virology, because he has a lot more knowledge
00:39:20.180 and information that he has that maybe he can't share, but is informing his opinion.
00:39:24.600 I must've asked the question a dozen different ways.
00:39:27.040 And I, and I, and I gave a lot of escape hatches for him to, to really clarify, well, you know,
00:39:34.240 it's anybody's guess, whatever.
00:39:35.900 And he did, you know, he hedged a little bit.
00:39:37.680 He didn't come out and say a hundred percent this, this came from, but he, he really was
00:39:41.900 quite adamant that this, this is the origin of the virus.
00:39:44.640 You know, I mean, there's reason to suspect that this is the origin of the virus.
00:39:48.340 I mean, it's the only, it's a big virology lab right in Wuhan that happened to be studying
00:39:53.000 bad Corona viruses just from an Occam's razor standpoint, finding the simplest explanation,
00:39:58.660 it would make sense.
00:40:00.240 Also keep in mind that 14 months now, 15 months into this, we still don't know for certain
00:40:04.180 what the origin is.
00:40:06.140 Bingo.
00:40:06.760 Thank you.
00:40:07.340 Thank you, Dr. Gupta.
00:40:08.740 Thank you for being maybe the only person on CNN to exercise any prudence.
00:40:14.640 Reason, open-mindedness to what is right before one's eyes.
00:40:21.660 Yes, that does seem like a very likely, I'm not saying it's the definite cause, but it's
00:40:25.820 a very likely cause.
00:40:28.440 There is reason to suspect that that was the origin of the virus.
00:40:33.800 No two ways about it.
00:40:35.740 Now that might not be politically correct because the Biden administration and the left and liberal
00:40:41.040 establishment wants to have a good relationship with China, including big corporate America,
00:40:45.920 including the big sports leagues, which are selling out our country and our principles
00:40:50.240 to make an extra buck over in China.
00:40:54.060 But we should be able to call it like we see it.
00:40:57.420 We should be able to pursue the truth and to pursue our national interest.
00:41:02.340 That is a principled, virtuous stance, and people on the left and the right don't want
00:41:07.280 to do it.
00:41:07.740 But I think the future, if we're going to have a conservative future, it is going to be just
00:41:12.400 that, recognizing that we do have a national interest here and we ought to pursue truth,
00:41:17.440 not the delusions and fantasies of the left.
00:41:20.700 Speaking of medical advice, there was an article in the Washington Examiner, which I had to read
00:41:26.080 because I think it shows you the divergence between the old right-wing order and the new
00:41:32.360 right-wing order.
00:41:33.620 This one, I think, is representative of the old kind of squishy wing of the right over the
00:41:39.500 past 20 years.
00:41:41.160 The writer says, headline, he won't allow over-the-counter birth control, but Biden is pushing
00:41:47.280 risky at-home abortions.
00:41:48.920 So, to me, when I read that headline, I say, okay, so Biden's batting 500 here.
00:41:57.300 You know, allowing risky at-home abortions is bad, but hey, at least he won't allow over-the-counter
00:42:01.560 birth control.
00:42:02.060 But then I find, in the article, the author writes, quote, an easy solution here would be
00:42:07.400 to deregulate oral contraceptives so that uninsured women can acquire them over-the-counter,
00:42:11.280 reducing the pills list price over time, and reducing unplanned pregnancies among a demographic
00:42:15.340 least able to afford children.
00:42:17.200 Lucky for Biden, Senate Republicans, such as Joni Ernst of Ohio, of Iowa, rather, among
00:42:22.340 others, are on board with this.
00:42:24.160 That's the opposite of what we ought to do.
00:42:27.580 That is exactly the wrong conclusion.
00:42:32.200 Why?
00:42:32.860 Why, Michael?
00:42:33.580 Because you're a scold, a prude, a theocrat?
00:42:36.960 No.
00:42:38.340 Why would we make it easier, even than it already is?
00:42:41.720 It's extremely easy to access oral contraceptives.
00:42:44.700 Why would we make it easier?
00:42:45.720 Why would we make it easier so that underage girls can get them?
00:42:49.180 That would be one, that would be one consequence of over-the-counter oral contraceptives so that
00:42:55.660 we can further reduce our birth rate.
00:42:58.640 We already have a dying population.
00:43:00.060 We already have a very low birth rate.
00:43:01.260 Should we really do that?
00:43:02.400 So that we can further promote the hookup culture and the culture of casual sex that
00:43:07.900 has given rise to the Me Too movement and claims of epidemic sexual assault on campus around
00:43:12.760 the country because of that?
00:43:15.460 Because it makes women so much happier?
00:43:18.040 Because it makes families so much more stable?
00:43:20.920 No.
00:43:22.200 I don't...
00:43:23.120 It doesn't make any sense at all.
00:43:24.740 I'm making a prudential judgment here based on the actual circumstances of the country.
00:43:32.880 I'm not making some totally abstract rational argument, rationalist argument rather, whereby
00:43:37.700 the only principle in our politics is maximizing individual autonomy and individual liberty,
00:43:45.080 meaning our basest passions.
00:43:47.120 I'm just looking at the prudence of it.
00:43:48.900 Why would we do that?
00:43:49.620 That seems like it would be worse, right?
00:43:52.560 Sometimes to have greater freedom, you have to say no.
00:43:58.880 There is this common thread.
00:44:00.240 Have you noticed this to liberal activism, to left-wing activism, even among the sort of
00:44:04.360 libertarian or squishy types on the right?
00:44:06.480 They always seem to want fewer people.
00:44:09.340 You notice that?
00:44:09.940 They want legal abortion in the name of women's rights.
00:44:12.780 They want subsidized contraception or much even easier access than we already have to
00:44:17.600 contraception in the name of personal autonomy.
00:44:20.360 They want euthanasia in the name of mercy.
00:44:23.000 They want smaller families because of climate change or overpopulation, a completely made-up
00:44:27.960 problem.
00:44:29.160 They want to pump little kids full of hormones that will castrate them in the name of transgender
00:44:34.320 health.
00:44:35.680 So no matter what the argument, they always seem to want fewer people.
00:44:39.540 Isn't that weird?
00:44:40.760 Doesn't that make you think, huh, what is the metaphysical aspect going on?
00:44:46.720 What is the, dare I say it, spiritual underpinning of all these policies that seem to be so anti-human?
00:44:56.220 We've got one of the more ridiculous examples right now in Colorado.
00:44:59.520 Colorado might become the second state to legalize human composting and to allow human remains
00:45:05.960 to be composted after a person passes away.
00:45:08.920 Love you, grandma.
00:45:10.200 Love you, grandpa.
00:45:11.580 Hey, love you, great aunt Becky.
00:45:13.140 Hey, can't wait to put you in my garden.
00:45:16.360 Can't wait to eat tomatoes that sprout out of your liver or something.
00:45:19.240 No, gross.
00:45:20.060 That's bad.
00:45:21.160 And why is it bad?
00:45:22.360 Why is it bad?
00:45:25.720 I understand the rationalist argument for composting, grandma.
00:45:30.840 Okay, the rationalist argument is, look, come on, it's just, you're just taking a dirt nap,
00:45:34.500 just turn into worm food anyway.
00:45:36.400 Might as well get some heads of lettuce out of you.
00:45:39.960 Why, come on, we're all just stuff, we're all just matter, right?
00:45:43.080 We're all going to turn to dust anyway, right?
00:45:45.000 Even we are, from dust we are and to dust we shall return.
00:45:48.460 So why not just toss someone in the backyard, let the, let the wolves come and eat you.
00:45:53.020 Or let some, let some vegetables grow out of you.
00:45:58.340 There is a natural revulsion that we have at this.
00:46:01.100 It's what the bioethicist Leon Kass would call the wisdom of repugnance.
00:46:05.780 It seems anti-human.
00:46:08.620 Seems pretty undignified.
00:46:10.040 This is human dignity, according to the libs, is turning your grandma into mulch.
00:46:16.660 Let me ask you something.
00:46:17.840 If you're, if you're tempted to go along with the Colorado thing.
00:46:20.180 If you were walking along the street and you saw a dead body, would you kick it?
00:46:27.100 Would you spit on it?
00:46:28.960 Would you desecrate that body?
00:46:33.000 No, I bet you wouldn't.
00:46:34.900 If you, God forbid, stumbled on a member of your family, dead.
00:46:40.520 This has maybe happened to a number of people.
00:46:43.540 Would you attack that body?
00:46:47.280 Would you punch it?
00:46:47.980 Would you desecrate that body?
00:46:49.800 No, you wouldn't.
00:46:51.300 You just wouldn't do it.
00:46:52.720 Why not?
00:46:54.700 The rationalist in you would say, oh, it's just a hunk of flesh.
00:46:58.760 Well, the word desecrate tells you everything because you recognize that there is something
00:47:03.000 sort of sacred about the human person.
00:47:07.240 There's some hint of divinity there that man has made in the image of God.
00:47:12.400 That we treat even a dead body with certain special care.
00:47:17.040 That's why it's against the law to desecrate bodies.
00:47:20.180 Why is that?
00:47:21.460 Because we recognize, at least on some gut level, we used to recognize in our whole culture
00:47:25.380 that we're not just meat puppets.
00:47:28.580 We're not just worm food.
00:47:29.900 We're not just flesh.
00:47:31.860 We are not just our fleshy desires.
00:47:33.900 Our will is not just our fleshy desires.
00:47:35.640 We have spirit and soul, too.
00:47:39.460 And we have a higher rational faculty and a higher rational will, too.
00:47:45.380 And we need to treat humans as a little bit more special.
00:47:48.000 And we need to treat human society as more than just our appetites and our desires in the
00:47:55.320 economically rational, materialist, self-interested society.
00:48:02.140 We're more than that.
00:48:03.880 Culture is more than that.
00:48:06.060 Conservatism is more than just saving a couple bucks and letting people pursue whatever
00:48:11.040 disordered desires they have.
00:48:12.680 Well, what is it?
00:48:15.300 What's more than that?
00:48:16.820 I think it's pretty clear that our traditions, our rituals, our American way of life, our self-respect,
00:48:23.720 our dignity is what we're aiming at here.
00:48:26.940 And the conservatives who recognize that are giving us an opportunity for a future here,
00:48:32.780 a future for conservatives and a future for the country.
00:48:35.100 And the ones who don't recognize that are only driving faster or slower off the cliff on
00:48:42.340 the way to decline.
00:48:43.320 I'm Michael Knowles.
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