The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 746 - The Real Justice System

00:00:00.000 Maxine Waters' big mouth may have gotten Derek Chauvin off the hook in the trial regarding the 0.58

00:00:06.840 death of George Floyd. My phone gives me alerts on things that just happened. I mean, you can't

00:00:13.220 avoid it. And it is so pervasive that it is, I just don't know how this jury,

00:00:20.780 it can really be said to be that they are free from the taint of this.

00:00:25.020 And now that we have U.S. representatives threatening acts of violence in relation to

00:00:35.520 the specific case, it's mind-boggling to be judged. Well, I'll give you that Congresswoman Waters may 0.80

00:00:42.900 have given you something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned. But what's

00:00:48.840 the state's position? As well it should, as well it should. We played what Maxine Waters said

00:00:55.720 yesterday. It was very clear. It was a call to riot. And so this new information that could affect the

00:01:03.020 trial of Derek Chauvin for the death of George Floyd, the new information isn't about anything

00:01:08.600 that happened on the day and the drugs and the neck and the police officers. No, it's going to be a

00:01:13.500 political consideration because you have elected Democrats in this country who are calling for

00:01:18.920 riots, trying to interfere in our justice system. Maxine Waters is a greater threat to justice and 1.00

00:01:25.720 peace in this country than the worst possible imaginable cop ever. I'm Michael Knowles. This

00:01:32.140 Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from frosted ice

00:01:44.440 pharaoh who says leftists and squishes use the term dog whistle, yet they are the only ones who can hear 0.98

00:01:52.340 it. What does that tell you? I have made this point on a number of occasions. I'm glad that you've picked

00:01:57.500 up on this too. The left is incessantly talking about dog whistles and yet they are the only ones

00:02:03.360 to hear them. What does that mean? That of course means that they are the dogs and they are because

00:02:08.920 we don't hear them. It's not as though conservatives are feigning ignorance and saying, no, I have no idea

00:02:13.320 what you're talking about. We really have no idea what they're talking about. We don't hear these

00:02:18.740 things because the left is constantly changing the definitions of words to have all of these new

00:02:25.340 connotations that we simply are not aware of. This is part of their process of constantly

00:02:30.500 transforming the language to try to transform reality, which is by the way, the subject of my

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00:03:52.240 or call 800-951-7163. This is the week. This is the George Floyd trial week when the whole

00:03:59.740 nation for some reason is focused on this one criminal trial where a cop used force on a guy

00:04:09.140 with a long rap sheet who is high on drugs and resisting arrest. And there's a question,

00:04:13.640 did he use too much force? Did he not use too much force? Did he murder this guy? Did he commit

00:04:18.340 manslaughter? All in the weeds of what is essentially a local, a local crime story that

00:04:24.840 the left has turned into a national reckoning on race and they've contrived all sorts of aspects of

00:04:32.160 it. And they have now explicitly threatened to riot and burn down the country as they did last year.

00:04:38.400 If they don't get the outcome that they want in this trial, it's hard to see how the jury does not

00:04:45.880 convict here. It's hard to see. Not because of the evidence. I think the prosecution's done a pretty

00:04:51.460 weak job and I think the defense has done a pretty good job. And I think so many facts of this case

00:04:56.820 were completely hidden or distorted in the political melee that took place in 2020. However,

00:05:04.380 think about what's going to happen if this jury doesn't convict.

00:05:08.440 Their lives are going to be ruined. They're going to be targeted by a murderous mob

00:05:13.740 that has the explicit support of elected officials and many other people in the media.

00:05:18.880 Their families are going to be targeted. You're already seeing this sort of thing happen. There

00:05:23.660 was a paramedic who donated a little bit of money to the defense of, of Kyle. What's his name? Kyle

00:05:30.900 Rittenhouse in Kenosha, Wisconsin. People are showing up to this guy's house now. This is just what

00:05:36.460 happens when you contradict the left's narrative on this. So just for self-preservation, I suspect

00:05:41.580 that the jury here is going to convict. The judge actually makes this point himself.

00:05:46.720 This goes back to what I've been saying from the beginning. I wish elected officials would stop

00:05:50.820 talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and to

00:05:56.500 the judicial branch in our function. I think if they want to give their opinions, they should do so

00:06:03.140 in a respectful and in a manner that is consistent with their oath to the constitution

00:06:07.380 to respect the co-equal branch of government. Their failure to do so, I think, is abhorrent,

00:06:13.460 but I don't think it has prejudiced us with additional material that would prejudice this

00:06:18.820 jury. They have been told not to watch the news. I trust they are following those instructions and

00:06:23.280 that there is not in any way a prejudice to the defense beyond the articles that we're talking

00:06:29.200 specifically about the facts of this case. A congresswoman's opinion really doesn't matter 1.00

00:06:34.860 a whole lot. Anyway, so motion for mistrial is denied. Okay, so he denies the motion here for

00:06:42.280 mistrial, but he says, look, on appeal, if let's say Chauvin is convicted, if it's all thrown out on

00:06:48.280 appeal, there really might be a strong case to be made here. But in this trial, I trust that the jury

00:06:53.980 is not watching the news. So look, if the jury is not watching the news at all, they're not talking

00:06:59.200 to anybody about this trial and they have, I don't know, general amnesia from 2020, then perhaps,

00:07:07.640 then perhaps Chauvin gets off or he gets some lesser conviction. But if they're in any way talking

00:07:15.900 to anybody, if they're listening to the news, if they can even hear the screams and wails and threats

00:07:21.620 that are floating through the air, especially in Minnesota right now, then it's very, very difficult

00:07:27.100 to see how he gets off. BLM already burned the country down. It's not as though this is some new

00:07:33.980 news story. Everyone knows about it. But I think, frankly, by the way, the left-wing establishment

00:07:39.320 is probably hoping that Chauvin does get off. Because if Chauvin is convicted, then that's the end of

00:07:45.420 the story. That's the end of it for the media. They won't get their ratings. That's the end of it for

00:07:49.600 the radicals. They won't have an excuse to riot in the street and extort more concessions out of

00:07:55.000 the establishment. Mao-mowing the flat catchers, to use the phrase of Tom Wolfe, the writer,

00:08:00.300 that will be the end of it for the liberal establishment itself, which is constantly trying

00:08:07.060 to take more power. So what are they going to do? I don't know. They're probably going to encourage

00:08:14.000 the riots. Maxine Waters has gone viral because of that clip that was going around yesterday where 1.00

00:08:20.880 she said, we need to get more aggressive. We need to get more confrontational, more confrontational

00:08:25.520 than burning down multiple cities. What's more confrontational than that, a nuclear weapon? But

00:08:30.080 this is not new for Maxine Waters. Maxine Waters has been doing this for decades. Maxine Waters did this

00:08:36.540 during the Rodney King riots back in the early 90s. As I stand here, nine people are dead. My last

00:08:44.960 count this morning before I tried to get some sleep was over 50-something fires raging all over Los

00:08:52.600 Angeles. The fires started in my district, and one of the largest was right around the corner from my

00:08:58.760 house. There are scores of injuries and still anger and frustration and people who plan on staying on

00:09:08.200 the streets and expressing their outrage and anger in any way they deem necessary. There are those who

00:09:14.680 would like for me and others and all of us to tell people to go inside, to be peaceful, that they have

00:09:21.740 to accept the verdict. I accept the responsibility of asking people not to endanger their lives. I am not

00:09:29.240 asking people not to be angry. I am angry and I have a right to that anger, and the people out there have

00:09:35.420 a right to that anger. Maxine Waters does not have a right to any anger. She does not. Maxine Waters does 1.00

00:09:42.900 not. What Maxine Waters is doing is provoking riots. And what she says here is, look, I accept the

00:09:51.480 responsibility of telling people not to go out and endanger their own lives. And that can be read in

00:09:57.360 one of two ways. Either the rioters who are saying, don't go out there and commit these crimes and put

00:10:02.180 yourself in a dangerous situation. Or that could be just the law-abiding citizens and the shop owners

00:10:07.220 saying, hey, look, I'm telling you, don't go out. Don't fight back. Don't endanger your own life.

00:10:11.880 Either way, not a great concession. I'm going to accept that, but I'm not going to tell people not to be

00:10:18.220 angry. I'm not going to tell people not to express that anger. You should. If you cared about your

00:10:23.060 country, you would do that. If you cared about justice, you would do that. Now she's even lost

00:10:28.400 the facade of trying to be reasonable. Now she just says, you get up on their face and you mob them and

00:10:34.420 you get more confrontational after burning down the country for a year. So she no longer has that

00:10:40.480 filter. This happens to most people as they get a little bit older. All of that to say,

00:10:46.640 I see the leftist strategy. The leftist strategy is you encourage the riot, you encourage the chaos,

00:10:55.420 and then as a result, you get the crackdown. And they like both of those things. They like the

00:10:59.840 chaos because they can extort concessions on the left. And then they like the crackdown because that

00:11:04.760 gives them more power. I just never want to hear about a right-wing insurrection again. I never want

00:11:10.640 to hear about it. I don't want to hear about January 6th and Capitol Hill and the greatest worst

00:11:18.540 insurrection in US history. I don't want to hear about it. As long as Maxine Waters faces zero

00:11:23.600 consequences, which is exactly what's going to happen, then I just don't want to hear about it.

00:11:27.480 I don't, there's, they are, these things are not comparable. What BLM and Antifa did to the country in

00:11:32.380 2020, what they're probably going to do in a week or two, just not comparable to the guy with the

00:11:38.920 crazy horns jumping on the, on the table in the Capitol building. Okay. By the way, by the way,

00:11:44.740 what were we told about the Capitol? What was the worst thing that happened at the Capitol riot? What

00:11:49.680 was basically the entire premise of the second farcical impeachment of Donald Trump? The death of

00:11:56.540 our officer Sicknick, right? That was the one thing they said, yeah, okay, they messed up Nancy Pelosi's

00:12:01.700 office. That's bad, but we're not going to impeach a guy over that. And yeah, the, the guy in the

00:12:05.660 horns jumped on the table, but we're not going to impeach the president over that. But the thing we

00:12:09.600 can get him on, even though Trump said, be peaceful, the thing we can get him on is that officer Brian

00:12:15.060 Sicknick, Capitol Hill police officer was killed during those riots and, and killed by right-wing

00:12:22.380 insurrectionists. And it turns out that story was just completely false. Don't take my word for it.

00:12:29.400 You don't even need to take the daily wires word for it. The Washington post is now finally

00:12:33.780 admitting that what we all suspected the whole time. It was so weird that no one came out with

00:12:38.260 a cause of death for officer Sicknick. Officer Sicknick obviously died. The question was, did he

00:12:42.520 die because of the violence of that day? Turns out, nope, no, completely unrelated. Even the WAPO headline

00:12:50.240 Capitol police officer, Brian Sicknick, who engaged rioters, suffered two strokes and died of natural

00:12:57.620 causes. Officials say, thanks for admitting that WAPO. Thanks for admitting that now that it doesn't

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00:14:17.620 for up to $200 off and two free pillows. The Washington Post admitting now, months after,

00:14:26.140 what are we, four or more than three months after the Capitol riot? February, March, April, there we go.

00:14:34.220 Three months after the Capitol riot, after they've impeached the president a second time, failed to

00:14:40.360 convict after they've painted all of the right as insurrectionist threats to the country, need to

00:14:47.140 clamp down on your speech, need to clamp down on your ability to communicate. Now they acknowledge

00:14:53.100 the death of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick didn't have anything to do with rioters throwing

00:14:59.760 fire hydrants at him, didn't have anything to do with any of that. His family had suggested, to those

00:15:04.780 paying close attention, we knew this was probably going to come out because the family had suggested

00:15:09.560 at the time that he had health problems, don't rush to judgment, they didn't want the death to be

00:15:15.080 politicized. Now it turns out, yeah, it was two strokes, died of natural causes the following day.

00:15:21.460 Very sad, very sad that the guy died. Apparently he was, he was not a radical leftist, let's put it that

00:15:26.840 way. And then his death was totally exploited by the radical left. What was the other consequence of

00:15:33.520 that? It wasn't just impeaching the president. The other consequence is we got to shut down parlor.

00:15:37.840 That's right. Remember when all those squishes and leftists told conservatives to build their

00:15:42.080 own Twitter? Well, then conservatives built their own Twitter and then, and then the leftists said,

00:15:47.040 no, we're not going to allow that. And they kicked it off the app store and they kicked it off the

00:15:49.700 internet and the squishes just rolled over like they always do. Remember that? Just to, just to catch 1.00

00:15:55.140 you up on what happened. Well, some conservatives and some people with spines in the Senate

00:16:02.640 came out, like people like Mike Lee came out and wrote to parlor and said, Hey, you guys can't do

00:16:07.620 this. A representative Ken Buck in the house wrote to parlor and parlor or rather wrote to the Apple

00:16:13.700 app store. Apple finally wrote back to them and said, the app review team has informed parlor as of

00:16:20.480 April 14th, 2021, that it's proposed updated app will be approved for reinstatement in the app store.

00:16:28.020 Okay, great. Parlor's back after they broke parlor, after they cracked that social platform,

00:16:34.540 after they clamped down on them and said, you're the cause of the riot that killed the police officer.

00:16:39.920 Now they're going to let them back in. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? 1.00

00:16:44.600 Is this a win is what we want to know. Well, we need more information before we can celebrate

00:16:51.300 because you see the fine print there. They're saying there was a new updated app. And so that's

00:16:57.020 going to be proposed for reinstatement in the app store. So what changes did parlor have to make?

00:17:01.520 Did parlor acquiesce or is this really Apple conceding to political pressure? All of that is

00:17:06.940 sort of beside the point. I mean, it's, I guess it's good if parlor's back in the app store, that's

00:17:11.340 fine, but it's sort of beside the point because the liberal establishment already got what it wanted.

00:17:17.940 When it really counted, January 6th, when it really counted what happened,

00:17:23.640 the mainstream media lied to you, completely fabricated events that day that did not happen.

00:17:29.700 Big technology clamped down. They didn't just censor the duly elected sitting president of the

00:17:34.380 United States. They also censored millions of conservatives who could now no longer use

00:17:42.480 parlor as if they were using it or sign up to use parlor. That was done. It was over. They flexed,

00:17:47.620 they showed we run the show here. We are the law. We are the system of justice. So now months later,

00:17:55.300 it's kind of all over. It's kind of a moot point. Yeah, maybe they'll let us back in a little bit

00:17:59.300 on their terms, but what's the real system here? Is this really a win for, for conservatives in the

00:18:06.180 justice system in the United States? I don't think so. I think it's probably the left flexing their

00:18:10.200 muscles. And now out of their beneficence, giving us a little, some crumbs from the table. How,

00:18:15.320 how sweet of you left wingers. It's good to have wings on the cultural level or at the business

00:18:22.440 corporate level. We need wins at the government level too. So there's, here's half a good news

00:18:26.280 story. You want half a good news story? It's from Arizona governor, Doug Ducey, who is now prohibiting

00:18:30.660 the vaccine passports at the government level. Ducey is banning this new proposal and he's preventing

00:18:38.740 state and local governments from requiring residents to provide the COVID vaccine status

00:18:43.980 to receive service or to enter an area. This is at the government level, but that doesn't go far

00:18:49.300 enough. It needs to go further. We've, we've talked about this from the beginning. We've said there are

00:18:53.800 going to be two, there are going to be three different positions here. One is going to be no

00:18:59.900 vaccine passports at the government level. One is going to be no vaccine passports at the government

00:19:05.120 or private business level. And then obviously the third, the third position is we need vaccine

00:19:10.320 passports wherever, you know, all over the place. And the libertarian position kind of is up in the,

00:19:18.020 it's not really clear whether the, which one the libertarians will go for. It's a little incoherent,

00:19:21.860 but you could see a world in which the libertarian position is. And the squish position is no,

00:19:27.780 no vaccine passports at the government level. Private businesses can do whatever they want though.

00:19:31.620 If they want to include one, that's fine. If they don't want to include one, that's also fine.

00:19:35.120 The conservative position is no, it's just, it upends our political order. It upends our

00:19:39.660 traditions. It upends our way of life. No vaccine passports anywhere. And then obviously the leftist

00:19:43.740 position, they love the passports. Ron DeSantis then came out and he was, he did it a little bit

00:19:48.300 slowly, but then he came out and he said, okay, Florida, we're not going to have vaccine passports,

00:19:51.860 even at private businesses. We're not going to do it. We need more people to step up.

00:19:57.480 27 Republican governors here. I'm glad to see what four or five have come out and said,

00:20:01.800 no vaccine passports at the, at the state level. That's fine. We need to go further. 0.69

00:20:06.780 We need to go further. Don't let them give you a half measure. Private businesses should not be

00:20:12.220 permitted to require these either. Florida's doing a lot. Florida's really leading the country in many

00:20:18.720 ways on this sort of stuff, not just on COVID, but on the riots too, because you know, riots are the,

00:20:23.760 they're the real vaccine. Riots are the real cure for COVID. That's what we learned during the BLM 0.95

00:20:29.020 riots of 2020. We all have to stay locked in. If we even so much as go outside, we're going to catch

00:20:33.720 this virus with a hundred percent chance of killing us. Except if you are burning down Minneapolis,

00:20:40.820 then that is actually going to, there's a shield that's going to go around you and nobody can get

00:20:46.340 COVID. So it's cool. Especially if you want like a booster, you have to bust into a Nike store and

00:20:51.580 steal some sneakers. That is, that's kind of like your, that's like the second shot. You get the

00:20:55.740 sneakers. There's no way you can get COVID, right? So we're all preparing for more riots. Minneapolis

00:21:00.600 totally boarded up. Other places in the country are preparing. How's Florida preparing? They're

00:21:05.240 preparing by beefing up laws and figuring out ways to throw rioters in prison for longer. Florida

00:21:11.140 Senate has approved a bill that was championed by governor DeSantis. It's an anti-riot law. It

00:21:17.920 permits citizens to sue a local government. If that government does not stop a riot, it defines a riot as a

00:21:25.660 violent public disturbance involving three or more people acting with common intent, resulting in

00:21:30.960 injury to others, damage to property, or the imminent danger of injury or damage. This law

00:21:37.900 also would grant civil legal immunity to people who would drive through protesters and rioters who

00:21:43.960 are blocking a road. That's a good provision. I like that. That's good. That's good for law and

00:21:47.840 order. It's good for a stable society. It's good for everybody's rights. This law would prevent

00:21:51.820 people who were arrested for rioting or offenses committed during a riot from getting bailed out

00:21:56.720 of jail until their first court appearance. Loves that. Love that a lot. Throw them in jail,

00:22:00.960 throw away that key, at least until their court appearance. And this would impose a six-month

00:22:04.660 mandatory sentence for battery on a police officer during a riot. Love that. Love that. But the left

00:22:09.120 should love that too, right? Because they pretend that they're all for law and order now after the great

00:22:12.740 horrible insurrection of January 6th, right? So love this law. I think it's absolutely phenomenal.

00:22:20.740 Well, this is not a clampdown on people's freedom. That's what the left is going to say. They're

00:22:26.360 taking away our freedom of expression and our freedom of speech. This is an expansion of freedom

00:22:31.640 of speech because rioting is not speech. That's not protected by the First Amendment. You have the

00:22:38.960 right to speech. You have the right to peaceably assemble. You don't have the right to burn buildings

00:22:43.840 down. You don't have the right to threaten people. You don't have a right to shut down the interstate.

00:22:47.740 Right. And if you do that, you need to be punished so that we get less of that. So we

00:22:52.820 disincentivize that. And so that we punish people who do very bad things. You're going to hear people

00:22:59.020 say, this is outrageous. This is not in keeping with the American tradition, the Anglo-American 1.00

00:23:03.200 tradition. So you're not even allowed to use that phrase anymore. Riot acts have a long history in our

00:23:10.000 political tradition. You ever hear the phrase, oh man, read him the riot act. Oh yeah, that guy,

00:23:14.260 you know, you know what they're going to do to him. They're going to read him the riot act. You ever

00:23:17.380 hear that expression? That expression refers to the riot act and English law back in 1714 when

00:23:24.900 parliament passed the riot act for much the same reason that we need to pass the riot act today

00:23:30.160 down in Florida and hopefully elsewhere around the country. My one real disappointment with the

00:23:37.180 Trump administration, I felt this was just bad instincts or he was being led by people who did not

00:23:42.160 know what they were doing, was when he really went all in on the jailbreak bill. And he said,

00:23:46.300 you know, as conservatives, we need to let a bunch of criminals out of jail. I thought,

00:23:49.500 President Trump, this is going against your political instincts. This is not the sort of

00:23:53.300 stuff you've talked about in your career. This ain't it, chief. You've been so good on so much

00:23:57.560 other stuff, but this ain't it. I am glad to see that Governor DeSantis is bringing us back a little

00:24:02.740 bit in the direction of law and order. I hope that other governors, other legislators around the

00:24:08.820 country, do that as well, because we are not going to get any sort of real pushback from the squishes 1.00

00:24:15.880 on Capitol Hill. You know, we're, we're waiting on Maxine Waters, who is calling for riots, who,

00:24:26.080 who is doing so almost explicitly, very, very implicitly, but maybe arguably explicitly.

00:24:33.780 She's not going to face consequences. Maybe now some people in the House of Representatives are 0.51

00:24:38.000 saying she's, we're going to, we're going to do something. We're going to do something. Ben will

00:24:42.460 be covering Maxine today on Raging Waters. What a great title. So go check out his show today.

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00:25:25.060 So Nancy Pelosi was asked by the press, are you going to hold Maxine Waters to account? Do you,

00:25:32.580 you know, you've just been prattling on for three months about the right-wing insurrectionists.

00:25:36.180 Now Maxine Waters is calling for an insurrection, or she's calling for riots in the streets to subvert, 1.00

00:25:41.020 for the explicit purpose of subverting our justice system. So do you think she should 1.00

00:25:44.660 apologize? She goes, now, not only do I not think that we're going to hold Maxine Waters to any

00:25:49.040 consequence, but I don't think she should even apologize. So Kevin McCarthy, who at times has

00:25:55.640 defended the conservative side of the party, at other times has gone squish. He tweeted out, quote,

00:26:01.080 Maxine Waters is inciting violence in Minneapolis, just as she has incited it in the past. 0.99

00:26:05.400 If Speaker Pelosi doesn't act against this dangerous rhetoric, I will bring action this

00:26:10.080 week. So this is, doesn't really have any meat to it because the best he can do is suggest that

00:26:17.180 Maxine Waters be censured. And then I guess you try to get her impeached. It's just none of that's

00:26:22.760 going to happen. But I guess it at least puts Democrats in a bad position if they have to vote 0.86

00:26:27.240 on whether or not to censure her, because they're not going to want to vote to censure her, but then

00:26:31.380 we'll be able to say that they all defend the riots. So, you know, it's, I want to be a little

00:26:36.000 nice to McCarthy here because I was tough on him yesterday. This actually has some cleverness to it.

00:26:42.240 It will at least allow Republicans to hammer Democrats and force the Democrats to own the

00:26:47.460 riots that look like they're about to ensue. However, what this shows you is just, there's not,

00:26:53.340 not a lot that you can do if you, in Congress generally, but also if you're the party that's not in

00:26:58.900 power, you got to win, you got to win elections, losing with dignity. If that is actually what

00:27:05.120 Republicans are doing. And I don't think that's what they're doing. I think they're losing without

00:27:07.800 any dignity, but losing with, even with dignity and a buck 50 will get you a cup of coffee.

00:27:13.560 If you don't have the political power, then you can't wield it. And if you do have the political

00:27:18.060 power and you don't wield it, then it's just as good as losing. And now the Democrats have the

00:27:22.300 political power and they know how to wield it. And I just wish Republicans could, Republicans have

00:27:27.680 convinced themselves that it's somehow wrong to wield political power. They they've convinced

00:27:32.120 themselves that the only legitimate thing to do once they enter office is nothing because of some

00:27:36.480 degraded pseudo libertarian bumper sticker. And they've convinced themselves that if they create

00:27:41.800 any laws, that that's somehow an illegitimate imposition of our views and it, it somehow compromises

00:27:47.400 freedom or something. It's just completely ridiculous, has no relationship to our actual American

00:27:52.440 conservative political tradition. I talk about how the left has tricked us into believing all this 0.92

00:27:56.940 nonsense in my upcoming with speechless controlling words, controlling minds, which is available now

00:28:00.580 for pre-order. And by the way, you can get an autograph first edition copy. If you go to

00:28:04.860 premier collectibles, just, just throwing that out there. So Kevin McCarthy will try to do this sort

00:28:10.260 of thing. Pelosi won't act probably very little will come of it. What about Joe Biden? What about

00:28:14.020 the white house? Does Joe Biden support the statements by Maxine Waters? Jen Psaki was asked this

00:28:19.580 question because obviously the press never talked to Joe Biden. So the press secretary was asked this.

00:28:24.300 she just doesn't give a straight answer. You talked about how the white house is preparing for whatever 0.92

00:28:31.500 that verdict is. Congressman Maxine Waters said over the weekend that they need to, we've got to stay on

00:28:37.220 the street and we've got to get more active. We've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make

00:28:41.960 sure that they know that we mean business. Does the president agree with what she said about getting

00:28:46.760 more confrontational? Well, I can speak to the president's view. He has been very clear that he

00:28:53.120 recognizes the issue of police violence against people of color. Communities of color is one of

00:28:58.740 great anguish and it's exhausting and quite emotional at times. As you know, he met with the

00:29:05.580 Floyd family last year and has been closely following the trial as we've been talking about

00:29:09.300 and is committed to undoing this longstanding systemic problem. His view is also that exercising

00:29:16.100 first amendment rights and protesting injustice is the most American thing that anyone can do.

00:29:21.520 But as he also always says, protests must be peaceful. That's what he continues to call for.

00:29:27.100 And what he continues to believe is the right way to approach responding. Cool. Can you just give a

00:29:32.480 straight answer, please? Lady, I know, I know you can. I know the job is not to give a straight answer. So I'm not,

00:29:36.680 I'm not, I'm not really personally angry at Jen Psaki here, but I guess this is an extreme example.

00:29:43.400 So, so Joe Biden doesn't want to contradict a member of his own party. And he does in a way want

00:29:49.160 to, for his political advantage, wants to keep the threat of riots out there because it, it,

00:29:54.760 well, just like any threat of violence, right? It, it puts your, your opponent in a vulnerable

00:30:00.480 position. It's like the mob. It's like saying, nice story you got here. Sure would be a shame if

00:30:03.880 something happened to it. That's what Maxine Waters is doing. That's what the whole

00:30:06.460 democratic establishment is doing. It's not just crazy Maxine. Kamala Harris bailed the rioters out

00:30:10.860 of prison last year, out of jail rather in, in Minneapolis, the first time they did this.

00:30:15.720 Joe Biden's staffers posted the, the fundraiser for these rioters as well. A lot of left-wingers

00:30:22.520 are doing this sort of thing. Then Kamala Harris came out and said, you got to stay in the streets.

00:30:25.940 You did the same thing Maxine Waters is doing, but Joe Biden doesn't want to be seen as defending

00:30:32.000 the riots. So he says, well, you know, we believe you got to be peaceful, but you know,

00:30:37.460 we also believe and well and but and well and but, and if ifs and buts were candy and nuts,

00:30:42.520 we'd all have a Merry Christmas. What is the end game here? I don't think the end game is simply

00:30:51.300 that the left wants us all to devolve into some anarchistic mayhem in the country.

00:30:58.160 They want to upend the culture for a purpose and that is to impose their own 1.00

00:31:04.120 vision, their own standards. And so that the chaos really helps them because then the clampdown can be

00:31:10.480 even tougher. And you're, you're seeing ultimately what this clampdown is going to be is not from

00:31:14.420 the ordinary part of the American political tradition where, you know, the Democrats win

00:31:18.480 elections and they follow the normal process. No, what it's going to be is perpetually outsourcing

00:31:24.200 their, our political rights to the administrative bureaucracy, which is always in their hands.

00:31:30.320 Even, even when we do win elections, the bureaucracy is always in their hands and they're

00:31:33.980 going to take political questions and they're going to try to redefine them as non-political

00:31:37.880 questions. And they're going to take questions of our fundamental constitutional rights and

00:31:41.760 they're going to redefine them as scientific, clinical, administrative questions that eggheads

00:31:46.900 like Dr. Fauci should decide rather than we, the people of the United States. Fauci is already

00:31:52.440 doing this. He was asked a question about gun policy. Why is Dr. Fauci being asked about gun

00:31:57.540 policy? I have no idea. Actually, I do have an idea because we now have a state church in this

00:32:02.920 country called secular progressivism. And Dr. Fauci is the high pontiff of secular progressivism.

00:32:08.240 So all questions go to him. He speaks infallibly on absolutely all matters. And because the left

00:32:14.100 redefines all of our language as a strategy to redefine reality, they're trying to redefine the

00:32:20.260 question of our second amendment rights as a matter of public health.

00:32:25.360 Before I let you go, I want to ask about another epidemic in the U.S. and that is gun violence.

00:32:30.580 Eight people were shot and killed in a mass shooting in Indianapolis on Thursday night. The U.S.

00:32:35.640 has reported 47 mass shootings in just over a month. You've worked in public health broadly

00:32:40.540 for a long time. Is gun violence in the U.S. a public health emergency?

00:32:44.300 You know, myself as as a public health person, I think you can't run away from that. I mean,

00:32:51.780 when you see people getting killed, I mean, in this last month, it's just been horrifying

00:32:57.120 what's happened. How can you say that's not a public health issue?

00:33:00.980 I can say it's not a public health issue. How can how can you say it is a public health issue? First

00:33:06.080 of all, I've been told that people who are killed by bullets are actually being killed by COVID.

00:33:11.460 Remember, people who get shot in the head in some cases in this country have been counted as COVID

00:33:16.840 deaths. We've been told that all all deaths are part of the public health issue. So all all people

00:33:23.040 die, right? All all people die. And therefore, everything in this world is a public health 0.55

00:33:30.240 question. Because look, if I this show right now, this is a public health matter. Because if I say

00:33:36.420 something that really irritates a leftist, which I've been told I occasionally do, well, then their

00:33:41.720 blood pressure might rise up a little bit. They may, maybe they'll have a health problem from that.

00:33:45.180 Maybe, you know, don't think that I'm making a totally hyperbolic, ridiculous straw man argument. 0.90

00:33:50.400 The left makes this point all the time. They make the point on racism. They say that racism is a public 0.91

00:33:55.400 health issue. Because when people suffer microaggressions, that raises their blood pressure. And that

00:34:01.700 that's difficult for them. And it's a matter of life and death sometimes. And therefore,

00:34:07.660 the eggheads need to take over all of our national policy. If you're, if you're looking at mass shootings

00:34:13.820 in the country, you say, yeah, a lot of criminals are going on shooting people.

00:34:19.260 If you're going to interview an expert on that, some, some official of the government,

00:34:24.180 shouldn't you be interviewing, I don't know, a member of the Department of Justice,

00:34:28.920 a prosecutor, a cop, the attorney general. Why are you interviewing Dr. Fauci? Because

00:34:36.840 public health is this catch-all department of the government. It's kind of become the whole

00:34:42.300 government now that makes all of our national policy. No official in the government has had

00:34:47.280 more power than Dr. Fauci over the past two years, including Donald Trump, including Joe Biden.

00:34:55.400 Dr. Fauci almost single-handedly has upended our entire way of life, suspended our, our ordinary

00:35:04.000 rituals, suspended Christmas, suspended Thanksgiving, got our election system upended to include now

00:35:11.260 massive widespread mail-in votes to expand election day well beyond election day. That was Fauci. That

00:35:18.000 was public health because everything falls in to the cult of public health. And, and we are told,

00:35:23.560 by the way, we're not, we're not allowed to question this because that makes us unscientific.

00:35:27.400 Look, that's just the way science is progressing. And there's a science to our bodies and there's

00:35:31.360 a science to history and there's a science to politics. And that's just progress, man. And you're

00:35:35.680 on the wrong side of history and you got to just shut up and give up your country to these deranged 1.00

00:35:41.340 eggheads, right? Or not. There was a video, this is going to seem unconnected, but it's not. 1.00

00:35:46.640 There was a video that was going around the internet over the past few days of a cool old plane making

00:35:53.380 an emergency landing in the water along a beach in Florida. So, so the plane is making its landing

00:36:00.540 and, and it, so it's really actually pretty impressive emergency landing. Doesn't, doesn't take

00:36:07.780 anybody out. And you see the, the plane just floating now a little bit off shore. Some guys are filming

00:36:14.600 this from the beach and already you think, wow, this is very impressive video, but the most impressive

00:36:20.520 part comes when a bunch of dudes start running into the water, diving into the water and swimming

00:36:28.480 out to the plane. Why are they doing that? Because they want to make sure that nobody in the plane

00:36:33.660 needs help, that nobody's drowning, that nobody has maybe been knocked unconscious. They're running

00:36:39.380 toward the danger, using their will and their intellect to do the right thing, taking the

00:36:47.620 situation in some degree into their own hands and behaving in a moral manner as they do it.

00:36:55.160 We can do that. I know that we, we live in a country now that is just filled with the neurotic

00:37:01.180 and selfish fear of death, where if, forget about a plane landing and you're going to, you're going to go

00:37:05.840 run toward the danger. Now, if your grandma coughs, you run in the other direction. You say,

00:37:12.360 God, good death. Take her, take her. I've got to, I got to get out of here. I'm not going to see 0.99

00:37:15.780 my relatives, my loved ones for years at a time now, because I'm so afraid of getting the sniffles,

00:37:22.080 right? We are a cowardly and selfish country in many ways. We're quickly becoming that because of 0.98

00:37:29.700 radicals who are trying to upend our, our, our system of society. But we don't have to be. We can 1.00

00:37:36.680 be the other kind of society that just doesn't care about our, our own self-satisfaction all the

00:37:43.820 time, that doesn't only care about our self-preservation, that actually runs toward the danger

00:37:47.800 to do the right thing. We can take back control. I think the theme, the theme of this White House

00:37:56.520 is losing control. Kamala Harris was just sent out to meet the, the prime minister of Japan,

00:38:04.040 Yoshihide Suga. Now, normally this, this is an important relationship. Normally the president

00:38:10.320 would go out to meet the prime minister of Japan, but Joe Biden was probably taking his nap. Probably

00:38:15.060 the prime minister's arrival didn't, didn't work out very well for him. And so they sent Kamala Harris

00:38:21.180 instead. And it just looked, it looked awkward. It was, it was disrespectful. It's not the right

00:38:26.960 sort of thing. Joe Biden the other day accidentally had to give an answer to a reporter who caught him

00:38:32.220 while he was walking. And he said, behind the mask, he was asked about the border crisis. And he said,

00:38:36.620 right. And he said, you couldn't hear him that well because he muzzled himself,

00:38:40.380 which is probably to his political advantage, but he called it a crisis. First time that Biden has,

00:38:46.900 has called it a crisis, the White House assiduously avoiding these sorts of terms.

00:38:51.700 Jen Psaki was just asked about this, said, hold on, Joe Biden says it's a crisis. So can the White 0.80

00:38:55.580 House finally admit it's a crisis? She says no. President Biden over the weekend called what

00:39:01.220 happened at the border a crisis. Is that now the official White House position that there is indeed

00:39:06.120 a crisis at the border? Well, let me first say that we have made some progress, some progress in

00:39:13.740 moving children from out of border patrol facilities into shelters. Nearly a thousand

00:39:20.720 unaccompanied minors were transferred out of CBP facilities and into the care of health and human

00:39:26.320 services just this weekend. We are still have a lot of work to do, but we, that is a step forward in

00:39:32.080 our view. The president does not feel that children coming to our border, seeking refuge from violence,

00:39:38.040 economic hardships and other dire circumstances is a crisis. He does feel that the crisis in Central

00:39:44.600 America, the dire circumstances that many are fleeing from, that he, that that is a situation

00:39:50.480 we need to spend our time, our effort on, and we need to address it if we're going to prevent

00:39:54.260 more of an influx of migrants from coming in years to come. That's not what he said. He said the crisis

00:40:00.140 is at the border. And what Jen Psaki is saying now is no, what the president said, that's not the

00:40:04.860 position of the White House. That's not the position of the White House. I, it probably isn't because I

00:40:11.680 don't think Joe Biden really runs that White House. We are not merely the victims, the passive victims

00:40:21.560 of circumstance. We are not merely the, the sort of cogs in the machine that have no will and have no

00:40:31.940 intellect of our own. We do have agency. We have intellect. We have will. We can do things. We can,

00:40:37.940 we can take even terrible events and try to find some way to pull some good out of those events.

00:40:45.400 The left doesn't want us to be able to do that. The left wants to keep us ginned up and wild all the

00:40:50.540 time and, and really focused on all, all the most awful aspects of our, of our country and of our lives

00:40:58.000 and told we can never do anything and we can never succeed and we can never overcome. And they're,

00:41:03.760 they're our only hope and keep us all agitated. The left often exploiting political crises and

00:41:12.820 deaths. You've got officer Sicknick right here from the Washington Post exploiting those things

00:41:18.200 to push their own radical agenda, disconnected from the question at hand.

00:41:21.960 I am reminded that today is the anniversary of the Columbine shooting, 22 years. A lot of people

00:41:29.120 probably listening to the show don't even remember the Columbine shooting. Well, I sat down with one

00:41:33.540 of the survivors of the Columbine shooting, Craig Scott. We discussed a whole range of times. It was

00:41:38.940 a really long interview. You can go check it out on my YouTube channel. He focused specifically though

00:41:43.620 on the way the media politicize these sorts of events and push lies to fit their agenda. He also gives

00:41:50.700 a really harrowing recount of what he saw himself, what he went through himself on that day. Just

00:41:56.520 play you a little clip of, of our discussion and then you can go check out the rest of it on my

00:42:01.120 YouTube channel. You can also check out the movie about his sister called I am not ashamed. Without

00:42:06.740 further ado, take a listen. There's definitely, uh, things that are taken tragedies, uh, events that

00:42:13.260 the media picks up on that they want to politicize it. Uh, they want to use it for whatever cause that

00:42:20.220 they think, um, is important or needs or, or needs to happen. And, uh, you know, I've been involved

00:42:27.260 and interviewed and questioned, um, over news media. I've been over on a thousand interviews throughout my

00:42:34.320 life. And that that's an issue that comes up a lot, but I, I know that that is a surface level issue. I know that, um,

00:42:45.320 that when somebody has, um, real darkness, real hatred in their heart, uh, that if they want to take the time

00:42:52.460 to plan and kill people, they can find a way to do it. There was actually a propane tank that was set at

00:42:57.980 Columbine that was right underneath me. I was on the second floor in the library and directly below me in the

00:43:03.620 cafeteria was a propane tank. If it had gone off, it would have killed 500 kids and we would have been,

00:43:08.840 you know, banning propane tanks, you know, people that, that use these events for their own, uh, agenda.

00:43:16.300 I think that a lot of them really believe that, that, that this is the problem. You know, they think that

00:43:21.500 the gun, that guns are the problem, but it really wasn't the main problem. Uh, if you really want to

00:43:28.860 look at, I, I know of every school shooting that's happened since Columbine, I get questioned by the

00:43:34.780 media after everyone, I research it, I learn about it. And if I were to tell you the biggest thing,

00:43:39.760 the biggest commonality between all of these school shooters, it's pretty simple. It's that

00:43:46.140 they focus on everything that was negative in this world. They focus on everything that was negative in

00:43:51.840 themselves and they didn't see the good in themselves or in other people. And they have this

00:43:57.160 perspective of seeing the world. They could have been in the most beautiful place. They could have

00:44:01.900 been in the Sistine Chapel and in Italy with Michelangelo's beautiful paintings and found

00:44:07.260 dirt in the corner and focused on that. And when you have a view where everything is dark and jaded

00:44:14.520 and you see nothing good, then in you, it creates a darkness. It creates an anger and a hatred.

00:44:21.300 And what I've learned also about all these shooters, school shootings is that they all dwelled on a lot of

00:44:27.120 very negative media, uh, almost on a daily basis. And if you can just imagine, um, and you know,

00:44:34.000 of course there's, there's, there's, there's nothing negative in the media, right? When I ask that

00:44:38.260 question to students in schools, I say, you know, how many of you guys would agree there's a lot of

00:44:42.540 negative, like in the media, like every hand goes up. Negative media, it's sort of a redundant phrase.

00:44:48.920 You don't need to say both. Right. You know, uh, it doesn't mean you can't address the negative or

00:44:54.720 talk about it, but where's your focus? Because whatever we place attention on, we give power to

00:45:00.140 whatever it is, whatever the media chooses to focus on. Um, the media told this narrative after Columbine

00:45:08.820 that really wasn't true. And Columbine was such a covered thing after the shooting, it was on

00:45:16.060 the news for months. And we had, uh, a news camp of reporters near the school for months.

00:45:22.960 And the narrative that basically came out was this two guys are pushed to the edge because of bullying

00:45:29.680 and they get revenge at their school. The problem is that's really not the true story. That's really

00:45:35.240 not the main issue. And even the psychologists that have looked into it, that have looked at

00:45:40.280 everything that happened, don't believe bullying was a factor. They were bullied to a degree at

00:45:44.980 school. I know of a couple of stories. I also know kids at my school that were bullied a lot worse. And

00:45:49.100 I also know that they themselves were bullies at times and became the ultimate bullies that day.

00:45:55.060 If I were to tell, when I talk to kids, I say the biggest reason they did what they did

00:45:59.760 is that they focused on everything that was negative in this world.

00:46:03.020 And that's, that's the bigger reason. It's not bullying. Um, the bigger reason is, is what they

00:46:09.440 focused on. And so I have a program called value up and I named it that after reading, um, the book

00:46:18.240 from Sue Klebold. Her son was Dylan, one of the shooters at Columbine. Dylan wasn't going to go through

00:46:24.560 with the shooting. He thought Eric, his friend who was very psychopathic, um, was crazy. And he only 0.98

00:46:31.080 decided to go along with it in the last couple of months of his planning. He planned it for a year

00:46:36.040 and, uh, but he was more suicidal. And what his mom said was we valued Dylan, but he didn't value

00:46:43.400 himself. And it struck me because I realized I had already spoken to over a million teens across

00:46:49.140 the country in person. And I realized that's such a core issue when somebody doesn't believe in their

00:46:55.480 own value. They're not going to treat other people with value, but if they can realize the truth and

00:47:01.520 whether you want to come out this from a Christian perspective or other religion that, you know,

00:47:07.760 Christian, you're fearfully, wonderfully made, um, other perspective that we just have the capacity

00:47:12.780 within us to do great good. We have so much potential, especially young people. And so if they

00:47:19.540 can realize it doesn't matter what they look like, it doesn't matter what other people say about

00:47:23.640 them. It doesn't matter where they come from, who their family is, that they have a great potential

00:47:28.660 in them to, and, and, and the capacity to do great things and be a positive influence in this world.

00:47:35.480 Like my sister was, she did small things, stepped out of her way for, uh, a girl that sat all alone 0.99

00:47:43.520 during lunch who just lost her mom in a car accident. I, uh, a friend, a friend told me how he has a

00:47:50.080 a slight disability and he was made fun of and ignored, usually ignored a lot at school. His name

00:47:55.500 was Adam. And the first time she met him, she stood up, a couple of guys were, were making fun

00:48:01.040 of him. She stood up for him. And he told me that the time that she reached out to him, he was having

00:48:06.360 thoughts of taking his life. And after she met him every day in the hallway, she would just say hi to

00:48:11.000 him. And he said, he literally started waking up in the morning, looking forward to this day that

00:48:16.000 this pretty girl would say hi to him in the hallway and a small act of kindness, human connection.

00:48:22.020 What is going to really change our culture? What's real, how are we going to get to the root of the

00:48:27.880 problem? Well, the root of the problem is in our hearts. The root of the problem is it really is.

00:48:33.600 Those are where the problems are. It's also where the solutions are.

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00:49:30.300 Today on The Ben Shapiro Show, as the Chauvin jury begins its deliberations, the media ratchet

00:49:35.100 up the racial tension, and Maxine Waters pushes violence in the streets as Democrats and the 0.92

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 20, 2021

Ep. 746 - The Real Justice System

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