Ep. 746 - The Real Justice System
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Maxine Waters' big mouth may have gotten Derek Chauvin off the hook in the trial regarding the death of George Floyd. This is a week where for some reason, the whole nation is focused on this one criminal trial where a cop used force on a guy with a long rap sheet who is high on drugs and resisting arrest. And there's a question: Did he use too much force? Did he really use too little force? Did he commit manslaughter?
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Maxine Waters' big mouth may have gotten Derek Chauvin off the hook in the trial regarding the
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death of George Floyd. My phone gives me alerts on things that just happened. I mean, you can't
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avoid it. And it is so pervasive that it is, I just don't know how this jury,
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it can really be said to be that they are free from the taint of this.
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And now that we have U.S. representatives threatening acts of violence in relation to
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the specific case, it's mind-boggling to be judged. Well, I'll give you that Congresswoman Waters may
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have given you something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned. But what's
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the state's position? As well it should, as well it should. We played what Maxine Waters said
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yesterday. It was very clear. It was a call to riot. And so this new information that could affect the
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trial of Derek Chauvin for the death of George Floyd, the new information isn't about anything
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that happened on the day and the drugs and the neck and the police officers. No, it's going to be a
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political consideration because you have elected Democrats in this country who are calling for
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riots, trying to interfere in our justice system. Maxine Waters is a greater threat to justice and
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peace in this country than the worst possible imaginable cop ever. I'm Michael Knowles. This
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Michael Knowles show. Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from frosted ice
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pharaoh who says leftists and squishes use the term dog whistle, yet they are the only ones who can hear
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it. What does that tell you? I have made this point on a number of occasions. I'm glad that you've picked
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up on this too. The left is incessantly talking about dog whistles and yet they are the only ones
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to hear them. What does that mean? That of course means that they are the dogs and they are because
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we don't hear them. It's not as though conservatives are feigning ignorance and saying, no, I have no idea
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what you're talking about. We really have no idea what they're talking about. We don't hear these
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things because the left is constantly changing the definitions of words to have all of these new
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or call 800-951-7163. This is the week. This is the George Floyd trial week when the whole
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nation for some reason is focused on this one criminal trial where a cop used force on a guy
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with a long rap sheet who is high on drugs and resisting arrest. And there's a question,
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did he use too much force? Did he not use too much force? Did he murder this guy? Did he commit
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manslaughter? All in the weeds of what is essentially a local, a local crime story that
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the left has turned into a national reckoning on race and they've contrived all sorts of aspects of
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it. And they have now explicitly threatened to riot and burn down the country as they did last year.
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If they don't get the outcome that they want in this trial, it's hard to see how the jury does not
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convict here. It's hard to see. Not because of the evidence. I think the prosecution's done a pretty
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weak job and I think the defense has done a pretty good job. And I think so many facts of this case
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were completely hidden or distorted in the political melee that took place in 2020. However,
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think about what's going to happen if this jury doesn't convict.
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Their lives are going to be ruined. They're going to be targeted by a murderous mob
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that has the explicit support of elected officials and many other people in the media.
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Their families are going to be targeted. You're already seeing this sort of thing happen. There
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was a paramedic who donated a little bit of money to the defense of, of Kyle. What's his name? Kyle
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Rittenhouse in Kenosha, Wisconsin. People are showing up to this guy's house now. This is just what
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happens when you contradict the left's narrative on this. So just for self-preservation, I suspect
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that the jury here is going to convict. The judge actually makes this point himself.
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This goes back to what I've been saying from the beginning. I wish elected officials would stop
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talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and to
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the judicial branch in our function. I think if they want to give their opinions, they should do so
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in a respectful and in a manner that is consistent with their oath to the constitution
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to respect the co-equal branch of government. Their failure to do so, I think, is abhorrent,
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but I don't think it has prejudiced us with additional material that would prejudice this
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jury. They have been told not to watch the news. I trust they are following those instructions and
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that there is not in any way a prejudice to the defense beyond the articles that we're talking
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specifically about the facts of this case. A congresswoman's opinion really doesn't matter
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a whole lot. Anyway, so motion for mistrial is denied. Okay, so he denies the motion here for
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mistrial, but he says, look, on appeal, if let's say Chauvin is convicted, if it's all thrown out on
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appeal, there really might be a strong case to be made here. But in this trial, I trust that the jury
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is not watching the news. So look, if the jury is not watching the news at all, they're not talking
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to anybody about this trial and they have, I don't know, general amnesia from 2020, then perhaps,
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then perhaps Chauvin gets off or he gets some lesser conviction. But if they're in any way talking
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to anybody, if they're listening to the news, if they can even hear the screams and wails and threats
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that are floating through the air, especially in Minnesota right now, then it's very, very difficult
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to see how he gets off. BLM already burned the country down. It's not as though this is some new
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news story. Everyone knows about it. But I think, frankly, by the way, the left-wing establishment
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is probably hoping that Chauvin does get off. Because if Chauvin is convicted, then that's the end of
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the story. That's the end of it for the media. They won't get their ratings. That's the end of it for
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the radicals. They won't have an excuse to riot in the street and extort more concessions out of
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the establishment. Mao-mowing the flat catchers, to use the phrase of Tom Wolfe, the writer,
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that will be the end of it for the liberal establishment itself, which is constantly trying
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to take more power. So what are they going to do? I don't know. They're probably going to encourage
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the riots. Maxine Waters has gone viral because of that clip that was going around yesterday where
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she said, we need to get more aggressive. We need to get more confrontational, more confrontational
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than burning down multiple cities. What's more confrontational than that, a nuclear weapon? But
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this is not new for Maxine Waters. Maxine Waters has been doing this for decades. Maxine Waters did this
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during the Rodney King riots back in the early 90s. As I stand here, nine people are dead. My last
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count this morning before I tried to get some sleep was over 50-something fires raging all over Los
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Angeles. The fires started in my district, and one of the largest was right around the corner from my
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house. There are scores of injuries and still anger and frustration and people who plan on staying on
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the streets and expressing their outrage and anger in any way they deem necessary. There are those who
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would like for me and others and all of us to tell people to go inside, to be peaceful, that they have
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to accept the verdict. I accept the responsibility of asking people not to endanger their lives. I am not
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asking people not to be angry. I am angry and I have a right to that anger, and the people out there have
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a right to that anger. Maxine Waters does not have a right to any anger. She does not. Maxine Waters does
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not. What Maxine Waters is doing is provoking riots. And what she says here is, look, I accept the
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responsibility of telling people not to go out and endanger their own lives. And that can be read in
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one of two ways. Either the rioters who are saying, don't go out there and commit these crimes and put
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yourself in a dangerous situation. Or that could be just the law-abiding citizens and the shop owners
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saying, hey, look, I'm telling you, don't go out. Don't fight back. Don't endanger your own life.
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Either way, not a great concession. I'm going to accept that, but I'm not going to tell people not to be
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angry. I'm not going to tell people not to express that anger. You should. If you cared about your
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country, you would do that. If you cared about justice, you would do that. Now she's even lost
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the facade of trying to be reasonable. Now she just says, you get up on their face and you mob them and
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you get more confrontational after burning down the country for a year. So she no longer has that
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filter. This happens to most people as they get a little bit older. All of that to say,
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I see the leftist strategy. The leftist strategy is you encourage the riot, you encourage the chaos,
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and then as a result, you get the crackdown. And they like both of those things. They like the
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chaos because they can extort concessions on the left. And then they like the crackdown because that
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gives them more power. I just never want to hear about a right-wing insurrection again. I never want
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to hear about it. I don't want to hear about January 6th and Capitol Hill and the greatest worst
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insurrection in US history. I don't want to hear about it. As long as Maxine Waters faces zero
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consequences, which is exactly what's going to happen, then I just don't want to hear about it.
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I don't, there's, they are, these things are not comparable. What BLM and Antifa did to the country in
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2020, what they're probably going to do in a week or two, just not comparable to the guy with the
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crazy horns jumping on the, on the table in the Capitol building. Okay. By the way, by the way,
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what were we told about the Capitol? What was the worst thing that happened at the Capitol riot? What
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was basically the entire premise of the second farcical impeachment of Donald Trump? The death of
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our officer Sicknick, right? That was the one thing they said, yeah, okay, they messed up Nancy Pelosi's
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office. That's bad, but we're not going to impeach a guy over that. And yeah, the, the guy in the
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horns jumped on the table, but we're not going to impeach the president over that. But the thing we
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can get him on, even though Trump said, be peaceful, the thing we can get him on is that officer Brian
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Sicknick, Capitol Hill police officer was killed during those riots and, and killed by right-wing
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insurrectionists. And it turns out that story was just completely false. Don't take my word for it.
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You don't even need to take the daily wires word for it. The Washington post is now finally
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admitting that what we all suspected the whole time. It was so weird that no one came out with
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a cause of death for officer Sicknick. Officer Sicknick obviously died. The question was, did he
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die because of the violence of that day? Turns out, nope, no, completely unrelated. Even the WAPO headline
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Capitol police officer, Brian Sicknick, who engaged rioters, suffered two strokes and died of natural
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causes. Officials say, thanks for admitting that WAPO. Thanks for admitting that now that it doesn't
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what are we, four or more than three months after the Capitol riot? February, March, April, there we go.
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Three months after the Capitol riot, after they've impeached the president a second time, failed to
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convict after they've painted all of the right as insurrectionist threats to the country, need to
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clamp down on your speech, need to clamp down on your ability to communicate. Now they acknowledge
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the death of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick didn't have anything to do with rioters throwing
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fire hydrants at him, didn't have anything to do with any of that. His family had suggested, to those
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paying close attention, we knew this was probably going to come out because the family had suggested
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at the time that he had health problems, don't rush to judgment, they didn't want the death to be
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politicized. Now it turns out, yeah, it was two strokes, died of natural causes the following day.
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Very sad, very sad that the guy died. Apparently he was, he was not a radical leftist, let's put it that
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way. And then his death was totally exploited by the radical left. What was the other consequence of
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that? It wasn't just impeaching the president. The other consequence is we got to shut down parlor.
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That's right. Remember when all those squishes and leftists told conservatives to build their
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own Twitter? Well, then conservatives built their own Twitter and then, and then the leftists said,
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no, we're not going to allow that. And they kicked it off the app store and they kicked it off the
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internet and the squishes just rolled over like they always do. Remember that? Just to, just to catch
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you up on what happened. Well, some conservatives and some people with spines in the Senate
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came out, like people like Mike Lee came out and wrote to parlor and said, Hey, you guys can't do
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this. A representative Ken Buck in the house wrote to parlor and parlor or rather wrote to the Apple
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app store. Apple finally wrote back to them and said, the app review team has informed parlor as of
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April 14th, 2021, that it's proposed updated app will be approved for reinstatement in the app store.
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Okay, great. Parlor's back after they broke parlor, after they cracked that social platform,
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after they clamped down on them and said, you're the cause of the riot that killed the police officer.
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Now they're going to let them back in. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
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Is this a win is what we want to know. Well, we need more information before we can celebrate
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because you see the fine print there. They're saying there was a new updated app. And so that's
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going to be proposed for reinstatement in the app store. So what changes did parlor have to make?
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Did parlor acquiesce or is this really Apple conceding to political pressure? All of that is
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sort of beside the point. I mean, it's, I guess it's good if parlor's back in the app store, that's
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fine, but it's sort of beside the point because the liberal establishment already got what it wanted.
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When it really counted, January 6th, when it really counted what happened,
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the mainstream media lied to you, completely fabricated events that day that did not happen.
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Big technology clamped down. They didn't just censor the duly elected sitting president of the
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United States. They also censored millions of conservatives who could now no longer use
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parlor as if they were using it or sign up to use parlor. That was done. It was over. They flexed,
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they showed we run the show here. We are the law. We are the system of justice. So now months later,
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it's kind of all over. It's kind of a moot point. Yeah, maybe they'll let us back in a little bit
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on their terms, but what's the real system here? Is this really a win for, for conservatives in the
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justice system in the United States? I don't think so. I think it's probably the left flexing their
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muscles. And now out of their beneficence, giving us a little, some crumbs from the table. How,
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how sweet of you left wingers. It's good to have wings on the cultural level or at the business
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corporate level. We need wins at the government level too. So there's, here's half a good news
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story. You want half a good news story? It's from Arizona governor, Doug Ducey, who is now prohibiting
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the vaccine passports at the government level. Ducey is banning this new proposal and he's preventing
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state and local governments from requiring residents to provide the COVID vaccine status
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to receive service or to enter an area. This is at the government level, but that doesn't go far
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enough. It needs to go further. We've, we've talked about this from the beginning. We've said there are
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going to be two, there are going to be three different positions here. One is going to be no
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vaccine passports at the government level. One is going to be no vaccine passports at the government
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or private business level. And then obviously the third, the third position is we need vaccine
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passports wherever, you know, all over the place. And the libertarian position kind of is up in the,
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it's not really clear whether the, which one the libertarians will go for. It's a little incoherent,
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but you could see a world in which the libertarian position is. And the squish position is no,
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no vaccine passports at the government level. Private businesses can do whatever they want though.
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If they want to include one, that's fine. If they don't want to include one, that's also fine.
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The conservative position is no, it's just, it upends our political order. It upends our
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traditions. It upends our way of life. No vaccine passports anywhere. And then obviously the leftist
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position, they love the passports. Ron DeSantis then came out and he was, he did it a little bit
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slowly, but then he came out and he said, okay, Florida, we're not going to have vaccine passports,
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even at private businesses. We're not going to do it. We need more people to step up.
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27 Republican governors here. I'm glad to see what four or five have come out and said,
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no vaccine passports at the, at the state level. That's fine. We need to go further.
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We need to go further. Don't let them give you a half measure. Private businesses should not be
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permitted to require these either. Florida's doing a lot. Florida's really leading the country in many
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ways on this sort of stuff, not just on COVID, but on the riots too, because you know, riots are the,
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they're the real vaccine. Riots are the real cure for COVID. That's what we learned during the BLM
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riots of 2020. We all have to stay locked in. If we even so much as go outside, we're going to catch
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this virus with a hundred percent chance of killing us. Except if you are burning down Minneapolis,
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then that is actually going to, there's a shield that's going to go around you and nobody can get
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COVID. So it's cool. Especially if you want like a booster, you have to bust into a Nike store and
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steal some sneakers. That is, that's kind of like your, that's like the second shot. You get the
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sneakers. There's no way you can get COVID, right? So we're all preparing for more riots. Minneapolis
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totally boarded up. Other places in the country are preparing. How's Florida preparing? They're
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preparing by beefing up laws and figuring out ways to throw rioters in prison for longer. Florida
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Senate has approved a bill that was championed by governor DeSantis. It's an anti-riot law. It
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permits citizens to sue a local government. If that government does not stop a riot, it defines a riot as a
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violent public disturbance involving three or more people acting with common intent, resulting in
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injury to others, damage to property, or the imminent danger of injury or damage. This law
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also would grant civil legal immunity to people who would drive through protesters and rioters who
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are blocking a road. That's a good provision. I like that. That's good. That's good for law and
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order. It's good for a stable society. It's good for everybody's rights. This law would prevent
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people who were arrested for rioting or offenses committed during a riot from getting bailed out
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of jail until their first court appearance. Loves that. Love that a lot. Throw them in jail,
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throw away that key, at least until their court appearance. And this would impose a six-month
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mandatory sentence for battery on a police officer during a riot. Love that. Love that. But the left
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should love that too, right? Because they pretend that they're all for law and order now after the great
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horrible insurrection of January 6th, right? So love this law. I think it's absolutely phenomenal.
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Well, this is not a clampdown on people's freedom. That's what the left is going to say. They're
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taking away our freedom of expression and our freedom of speech. This is an expansion of freedom
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of speech because rioting is not speech. That's not protected by the First Amendment. You have the
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right to speech. You have the right to peaceably assemble. You don't have the right to burn buildings
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down. You don't have the right to threaten people. You don't have a right to shut down the interstate.
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Right. And if you do that, you need to be punished so that we get less of that. So we
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disincentivize that. And so that we punish people who do very bad things. You're going to hear people
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say, this is outrageous. This is not in keeping with the American tradition, the Anglo-American
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tradition. So you're not even allowed to use that phrase anymore. Riot acts have a long history in our
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political tradition. You ever hear the phrase, oh man, read him the riot act. Oh yeah, that guy,
00:23:14.260
you know, you know what they're going to do to him. They're going to read him the riot act. You ever
00:23:17.380
hear that expression? That expression refers to the riot act and English law back in 1714 when
00:23:24.900
parliament passed the riot act for much the same reason that we need to pass the riot act today
00:23:30.160
down in Florida and hopefully elsewhere around the country. My one real disappointment with the
00:23:37.180
Trump administration, I felt this was just bad instincts or he was being led by people who did not
00:23:42.160
know what they were doing, was when he really went all in on the jailbreak bill. And he said,
00:23:46.300
you know, as conservatives, we need to let a bunch of criminals out of jail. I thought,
00:23:49.500
President Trump, this is going against your political instincts. This is not the sort of
00:23:53.300
stuff you've talked about in your career. This ain't it, chief. You've been so good on so much
00:23:57.560
other stuff, but this ain't it. I am glad to see that Governor DeSantis is bringing us back a little
00:24:02.740
bit in the direction of law and order. I hope that other governors, other legislators around the
00:24:08.820
country, do that as well, because we are not going to get any sort of real pushback from the squishes
00:24:15.880
on Capitol Hill. You know, we're, we're waiting on Maxine Waters, who is calling for riots, who,
00:24:26.080
who is doing so almost explicitly, very, very implicitly, but maybe arguably explicitly.
00:24:33.780
She's not going to face consequences. Maybe now some people in the House of Representatives are
00:24:38.000
saying she's, we're going to, we're going to do something. We're going to do something. Ben will
00:24:42.460
be covering Maxine today on Raging Waters. What a great title. So go check out his show today.
00:24:47.800
We've also got backstage coming up tonight, 7 p.m. Eastern, 4 p.m. Pacific, and it's almost time for
00:24:52.400
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00:24:56.900
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00:25:25.060
So Nancy Pelosi was asked by the press, are you going to hold Maxine Waters to account? Do you,
00:25:32.580
you know, you've just been prattling on for three months about the right-wing insurrectionists.
00:25:36.180
Now Maxine Waters is calling for an insurrection, or she's calling for riots in the streets to subvert,
00:25:41.020
for the explicit purpose of subverting our justice system. So do you think she should
00:25:44.660
apologize? She goes, now, not only do I not think that we're going to hold Maxine Waters to any
00:25:49.040
consequence, but I don't think she should even apologize. So Kevin McCarthy, who at times has
00:25:55.640
defended the conservative side of the party, at other times has gone squish. He tweeted out, quote,
00:26:01.080
Maxine Waters is inciting violence in Minneapolis, just as she has incited it in the past.
00:26:05.400
If Speaker Pelosi doesn't act against this dangerous rhetoric, I will bring action this
00:26:10.080
week. So this is, doesn't really have any meat to it because the best he can do is suggest that
00:26:17.180
Maxine Waters be censured. And then I guess you try to get her impeached. It's just none of that's
00:26:22.760
going to happen. But I guess it at least puts Democrats in a bad position if they have to vote
00:26:27.240
on whether or not to censure her, because they're not going to want to vote to censure her, but then
00:26:31.380
we'll be able to say that they all defend the riots. So, you know, it's, I want to be a little
00:26:36.000
nice to McCarthy here because I was tough on him yesterday. This actually has some cleverness to it.
00:26:42.240
It will at least allow Republicans to hammer Democrats and force the Democrats to own the
00:26:47.460
riots that look like they're about to ensue. However, what this shows you is just, there's not,
00:26:53.340
not a lot that you can do if you, in Congress generally, but also if you're the party that's not in
00:26:58.900
power, you got to win, you got to win elections, losing with dignity. If that is actually what
00:27:05.120
Republicans are doing. And I don't think that's what they're doing. I think they're losing without
00:27:07.800
any dignity, but losing with, even with dignity and a buck 50 will get you a cup of coffee.
00:27:13.560
If you don't have the political power, then you can't wield it. And if you do have the political
00:27:18.060
power and you don't wield it, then it's just as good as losing. And now the Democrats have the
00:27:22.300
political power and they know how to wield it. And I just wish Republicans could, Republicans have
00:27:27.680
convinced themselves that it's somehow wrong to wield political power. They they've convinced
00:27:32.120
themselves that the only legitimate thing to do once they enter office is nothing because of some
00:27:36.480
degraded pseudo libertarian bumper sticker. And they've convinced themselves that if they create
00:27:41.800
any laws, that that's somehow an illegitimate imposition of our views and it, it somehow compromises
00:27:47.400
freedom or something. It's just completely ridiculous, has no relationship to our actual American
00:27:52.440
conservative political tradition. I talk about how the left has tricked us into believing all this
00:27:56.940
nonsense in my upcoming with speechless controlling words, controlling minds, which is available now
00:28:00.580
for pre-order. And by the way, you can get an autograph first edition copy. If you go to
00:28:04.860
premier collectibles, just, just throwing that out there. So Kevin McCarthy will try to do this sort
00:28:10.260
of thing. Pelosi won't act probably very little will come of it. What about Joe Biden? What about
00:28:14.020
the white house? Does Joe Biden support the statements by Maxine Waters? Jen Psaki was asked this
00:28:19.580
question because obviously the press never talked to Joe Biden. So the press secretary was asked this.
00:28:24.300
she just doesn't give a straight answer. You talked about how the white house is preparing for whatever
00:28:31.500
that verdict is. Congressman Maxine Waters said over the weekend that they need to, we've got to stay on
00:28:37.220
the street and we've got to get more active. We've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make
00:28:41.960
sure that they know that we mean business. Does the president agree with what she said about getting
00:28:46.760
more confrontational? Well, I can speak to the president's view. He has been very clear that he
00:28:53.120
recognizes the issue of police violence against people of color. Communities of color is one of
00:28:58.740
great anguish and it's exhausting and quite emotional at times. As you know, he met with the
00:29:05.580
Floyd family last year and has been closely following the trial as we've been talking about
00:29:09.300
and is committed to undoing this longstanding systemic problem. His view is also that exercising
00:29:16.100
first amendment rights and protesting injustice is the most American thing that anyone can do.
00:29:21.520
But as he also always says, protests must be peaceful. That's what he continues to call for.
00:29:27.100
And what he continues to believe is the right way to approach responding. Cool. Can you just give a
00:29:32.480
straight answer, please? Lady, I know, I know you can. I know the job is not to give a straight answer. So I'm not,
00:29:36.680
I'm not, I'm not really personally angry at Jen Psaki here, but I guess this is an extreme example.
00:29:43.400
So, so Joe Biden doesn't want to contradict a member of his own party. And he does in a way want
00:29:49.160
to, for his political advantage, wants to keep the threat of riots out there because it, it,
00:29:54.760
well, just like any threat of violence, right? It, it puts your, your opponent in a vulnerable
00:30:00.480
position. It's like the mob. It's like saying, nice story you got here. Sure would be a shame if
00:30:03.880
something happened to it. That's what Maxine Waters is doing. That's what the whole
00:30:06.460
democratic establishment is doing. It's not just crazy Maxine. Kamala Harris bailed the rioters out
00:30:10.860
of prison last year, out of jail rather in, in Minneapolis, the first time they did this.
00:30:15.720
Joe Biden's staffers posted the, the fundraiser for these rioters as well. A lot of left-wingers
00:30:22.520
are doing this sort of thing. Then Kamala Harris came out and said, you got to stay in the streets.
00:30:25.940
You did the same thing Maxine Waters is doing, but Joe Biden doesn't want to be seen as defending
00:30:32.000
the riots. So he says, well, you know, we believe you got to be peaceful, but you know,
00:30:37.460
we also believe and well and but and well and but, and if ifs and buts were candy and nuts,
00:30:42.520
we'd all have a Merry Christmas. What is the end game here? I don't think the end game is simply
00:30:51.300
that the left wants us all to devolve into some anarchistic mayhem in the country.
00:30:58.160
They want to upend the culture for a purpose and that is to impose their own
00:31:04.120
vision, their own standards. And so that the chaos really helps them because then the clampdown can be
00:31:10.480
even tougher. And you're, you're seeing ultimately what this clampdown is going to be is not from
00:31:14.420
the ordinary part of the American political tradition where, you know, the Democrats win
00:31:18.480
elections and they follow the normal process. No, what it's going to be is perpetually outsourcing
00:31:24.200
their, our political rights to the administrative bureaucracy, which is always in their hands.
00:31:30.320
Even, even when we do win elections, the bureaucracy is always in their hands and they're
00:31:33.980
going to take political questions and they're going to try to redefine them as non-political
00:31:37.880
questions. And they're going to take questions of our fundamental constitutional rights and
00:31:41.760
they're going to redefine them as scientific, clinical, administrative questions that eggheads
00:31:46.900
like Dr. Fauci should decide rather than we, the people of the United States. Fauci is already
00:31:52.440
doing this. He was asked a question about gun policy. Why is Dr. Fauci being asked about gun
00:31:57.540
policy? I have no idea. Actually, I do have an idea because we now have a state church in this
00:32:02.920
country called secular progressivism. And Dr. Fauci is the high pontiff of secular progressivism.
00:32:08.240
So all questions go to him. He speaks infallibly on absolutely all matters. And because the left
00:32:14.100
redefines all of our language as a strategy to redefine reality, they're trying to redefine the
00:32:20.260
question of our second amendment rights as a matter of public health.
00:32:25.360
Before I let you go, I want to ask about another epidemic in the U.S. and that is gun violence.
00:32:30.580
Eight people were shot and killed in a mass shooting in Indianapolis on Thursday night. The U.S.
00:32:35.640
has reported 47 mass shootings in just over a month. You've worked in public health broadly
00:32:40.540
for a long time. Is gun violence in the U.S. a public health emergency?
00:32:44.300
You know, myself as as a public health person, I think you can't run away from that. I mean,
00:32:51.780
when you see people getting killed, I mean, in this last month, it's just been horrifying
00:32:57.120
what's happened. How can you say that's not a public health issue?
00:33:00.980
I can say it's not a public health issue. How can how can you say it is a public health issue? First
00:33:06.080
of all, I've been told that people who are killed by bullets are actually being killed by COVID.
00:33:11.460
Remember, people who get shot in the head in some cases in this country have been counted as COVID
00:33:16.840
deaths. We've been told that all all deaths are part of the public health issue. So all all people
00:33:23.040
die, right? All all people die. And therefore, everything in this world is a public health
00:33:30.240
question. Because look, if I this show right now, this is a public health matter. Because if I say
00:33:36.420
something that really irritates a leftist, which I've been told I occasionally do, well, then their
00:33:41.720
blood pressure might rise up a little bit. They may, maybe they'll have a health problem from that.
00:33:45.180
Maybe, you know, don't think that I'm making a totally hyperbolic, ridiculous straw man argument.
00:33:50.400
The left makes this point all the time. They make the point on racism. They say that racism is a public
00:33:55.400
health issue. Because when people suffer microaggressions, that raises their blood pressure. And that
00:34:01.700
that's difficult for them. And it's a matter of life and death sometimes. And therefore,
00:34:07.660
the eggheads need to take over all of our national policy. If you're, if you're looking at mass shootings
00:34:13.820
in the country, you say, yeah, a lot of criminals are going on shooting people.
00:34:19.260
If you're going to interview an expert on that, some, some official of the government,
00:34:24.180
shouldn't you be interviewing, I don't know, a member of the Department of Justice,
00:34:28.920
a prosecutor, a cop, the attorney general. Why are you interviewing Dr. Fauci? Because
00:34:36.840
public health is this catch-all department of the government. It's kind of become the whole
00:34:42.300
government now that makes all of our national policy. No official in the government has had
00:34:47.280
more power than Dr. Fauci over the past two years, including Donald Trump, including Joe Biden.
00:34:55.400
Dr. Fauci almost single-handedly has upended our entire way of life, suspended our, our ordinary
00:35:04.000
rituals, suspended Christmas, suspended Thanksgiving, got our election system upended to include now
00:35:11.260
massive widespread mail-in votes to expand election day well beyond election day. That was Fauci. That
00:35:18.000
was public health because everything falls in to the cult of public health. And, and we are told,
00:35:23.560
by the way, we're not, we're not allowed to question this because that makes us unscientific.
00:35:27.400
Look, that's just the way science is progressing. And there's a science to our bodies and there's
00:35:31.360
a science to history and there's a science to politics. And that's just progress, man. And you're
00:35:35.680
on the wrong side of history and you got to just shut up and give up your country to these deranged
00:35:41.340
eggheads, right? Or not. There was a video, this is going to seem unconnected, but it's not.
00:35:46.640
There was a video that was going around the internet over the past few days of a cool old plane making
00:35:53.380
an emergency landing in the water along a beach in Florida. So, so the plane is making its landing
00:36:00.540
and, and it, so it's really actually pretty impressive emergency landing. Doesn't, doesn't take
00:36:07.780
anybody out. And you see the, the plane just floating now a little bit off shore. Some guys are filming
00:36:14.600
this from the beach and already you think, wow, this is very impressive video, but the most impressive
00:36:20.520
part comes when a bunch of dudes start running into the water, diving into the water and swimming
00:36:28.480
out to the plane. Why are they doing that? Because they want to make sure that nobody in the plane
00:36:33.660
needs help, that nobody's drowning, that nobody has maybe been knocked unconscious. They're running
00:36:39.380
toward the danger, using their will and their intellect to do the right thing, taking the
00:36:47.620
situation in some degree into their own hands and behaving in a moral manner as they do it.
00:36:55.160
We can do that. I know that we, we live in a country now that is just filled with the neurotic
00:37:01.180
and selfish fear of death, where if, forget about a plane landing and you're going to, you're going to go
00:37:05.840
run toward the danger. Now, if your grandma coughs, you run in the other direction. You say,
00:37:12.360
God, good death. Take her, take her. I've got to, I got to get out of here. I'm not going to see
00:37:15.780
my relatives, my loved ones for years at a time now, because I'm so afraid of getting the sniffles,
00:37:22.080
right? We are a cowardly and selfish country in many ways. We're quickly becoming that because of
00:37:29.700
radicals who are trying to upend our, our, our system of society. But we don't have to be. We can
00:37:36.680
be the other kind of society that just doesn't care about our, our own self-satisfaction all the
00:37:43.820
time, that doesn't only care about our self-preservation, that actually runs toward the danger
00:37:47.800
to do the right thing. We can take back control. I think the theme, the theme of this White House
00:37:56.520
is losing control. Kamala Harris was just sent out to meet the, the prime minister of Japan,
00:38:04.040
Yoshihide Suga. Now, normally this, this is an important relationship. Normally the president
00:38:10.320
would go out to meet the prime minister of Japan, but Joe Biden was probably taking his nap. Probably
00:38:15.060
the prime minister's arrival didn't, didn't work out very well for him. And so they sent Kamala Harris
00:38:21.180
instead. And it just looked, it looked awkward. It was, it was disrespectful. It's not the right
00:38:26.960
sort of thing. Joe Biden the other day accidentally had to give an answer to a reporter who caught him
00:38:32.220
while he was walking. And he said, behind the mask, he was asked about the border crisis. And he said,
00:38:36.620
right. And he said, you couldn't hear him that well because he muzzled himself,
00:38:40.380
which is probably to his political advantage, but he called it a crisis. First time that Biden has,
00:38:46.900
has called it a crisis, the White House assiduously avoiding these sorts of terms.
00:38:51.700
Jen Psaki was just asked about this, said, hold on, Joe Biden says it's a crisis. So can the White
00:38:55.580
House finally admit it's a crisis? She says no. President Biden over the weekend called what
00:39:01.220
happened at the border a crisis. Is that now the official White House position that there is indeed
00:39:06.120
a crisis at the border? Well, let me first say that we have made some progress, some progress in
00:39:13.740
moving children from out of border patrol facilities into shelters. Nearly a thousand
00:39:20.720
unaccompanied minors were transferred out of CBP facilities and into the care of health and human
00:39:26.320
services just this weekend. We are still have a lot of work to do, but we, that is a step forward in
00:39:32.080
our view. The president does not feel that children coming to our border, seeking refuge from violence,
00:39:38.040
economic hardships and other dire circumstances is a crisis. He does feel that the crisis in Central
00:39:44.600
America, the dire circumstances that many are fleeing from, that he, that that is a situation
00:39:50.480
we need to spend our time, our effort on, and we need to address it if we're going to prevent
00:39:54.260
more of an influx of migrants from coming in years to come. That's not what he said. He said the crisis
00:40:00.140
is at the border. And what Jen Psaki is saying now is no, what the president said, that's not the
00:40:04.860
position of the White House. That's not the position of the White House. I, it probably isn't because I
00:40:11.680
don't think Joe Biden really runs that White House. We are not merely the victims, the passive victims
00:40:21.560
of circumstance. We are not merely the, the sort of cogs in the machine that have no will and have no
00:40:31.940
intellect of our own. We do have agency. We have intellect. We have will. We can do things. We can,
00:40:37.940
we can take even terrible events and try to find some way to pull some good out of those events.
00:40:45.400
The left doesn't want us to be able to do that. The left wants to keep us ginned up and wild all the
00:40:50.540
time and, and really focused on all, all the most awful aspects of our, of our country and of our lives
00:40:58.000
and told we can never do anything and we can never succeed and we can never overcome. And they're,
00:41:03.760
they're our only hope and keep us all agitated. The left often exploiting political crises and
00:41:12.820
deaths. You've got officer Sicknick right here from the Washington Post exploiting those things
00:41:18.200
to push their own radical agenda, disconnected from the question at hand.
00:41:21.960
I am reminded that today is the anniversary of the Columbine shooting, 22 years. A lot of people
00:41:29.120
probably listening to the show don't even remember the Columbine shooting. Well, I sat down with one
00:41:33.540
of the survivors of the Columbine shooting, Craig Scott. We discussed a whole range of times. It was
00:41:38.940
a really long interview. You can go check it out on my YouTube channel. He focused specifically though
00:41:43.620
on the way the media politicize these sorts of events and push lies to fit their agenda. He also gives
00:41:50.700
a really harrowing recount of what he saw himself, what he went through himself on that day. Just
00:41:56.520
play you a little clip of, of our discussion and then you can go check out the rest of it on my
00:42:01.120
YouTube channel. You can also check out the movie about his sister called I am not ashamed. Without
00:42:06.740
further ado, take a listen. There's definitely, uh, things that are taken tragedies, uh, events that
00:42:13.260
the media picks up on that they want to politicize it. Uh, they want to use it for whatever cause that
00:42:20.220
they think, um, is important or needs or, or needs to happen. And, uh, you know, I've been involved
00:42:27.260
and interviewed and questioned, um, over news media. I've been over on a thousand interviews throughout my
00:42:34.320
life. And that that's an issue that comes up a lot, but I, I know that that is a surface level issue. I know that, um,
00:42:45.320
that when somebody has, um, real darkness, real hatred in their heart, uh, that if they want to take the time
00:42:52.460
to plan and kill people, they can find a way to do it. There was actually a propane tank that was set at
00:42:57.980
Columbine that was right underneath me. I was on the second floor in the library and directly below me in the
00:43:03.620
cafeteria was a propane tank. If it had gone off, it would have killed 500 kids and we would have been,
00:43:08.840
you know, banning propane tanks, you know, people that, that use these events for their own, uh, agenda.
00:43:16.300
I think that a lot of them really believe that, that, that this is the problem. You know, they think that
00:43:21.500
the gun, that guns are the problem, but it really wasn't the main problem. Uh, if you really want to
00:43:28.860
look at, I, I know of every school shooting that's happened since Columbine, I get questioned by the
00:43:34.780
media after everyone, I research it, I learn about it. And if I were to tell you the biggest thing,
00:43:39.760
the biggest commonality between all of these school shooters, it's pretty simple. It's that
00:43:46.140
they focus on everything that was negative in this world. They focus on everything that was negative in
00:43:51.840
themselves and they didn't see the good in themselves or in other people. And they have this
00:43:57.160
perspective of seeing the world. They could have been in the most beautiful place. They could have
00:44:01.900
been in the Sistine Chapel and in Italy with Michelangelo's beautiful paintings and found
00:44:07.260
dirt in the corner and focused on that. And when you have a view where everything is dark and jaded
00:44:14.520
and you see nothing good, then in you, it creates a darkness. It creates an anger and a hatred.
00:44:21.300
And what I've learned also about all these shooters, school shootings is that they all dwelled on a lot of
00:44:27.120
very negative media, uh, almost on a daily basis. And if you can just imagine, um, and you know,
00:44:34.000
of course there's, there's, there's, there's nothing negative in the media, right? When I ask that
00:44:38.260
question to students in schools, I say, you know, how many of you guys would agree there's a lot of
00:44:42.540
negative, like in the media, like every hand goes up. Negative media, it's sort of a redundant phrase.
00:44:48.920
You don't need to say both. Right. You know, uh, it doesn't mean you can't address the negative or
00:44:54.720
talk about it, but where's your focus? Because whatever we place attention on, we give power to
00:45:00.140
whatever it is, whatever the media chooses to focus on. Um, the media told this narrative after Columbine
00:45:08.820
that really wasn't true. And Columbine was such a covered thing after the shooting, it was on
00:45:16.060
the news for months. And we had, uh, a news camp of reporters near the school for months.
00:45:22.960
And the narrative that basically came out was this two guys are pushed to the edge because of bullying
00:45:29.680
and they get revenge at their school. The problem is that's really not the true story. That's really
00:45:35.240
not the main issue. And even the psychologists that have looked into it, that have looked at
00:45:40.280
everything that happened, don't believe bullying was a factor. They were bullied to a degree at
00:45:44.980
school. I know of a couple of stories. I also know kids at my school that were bullied a lot worse. And
00:45:49.100
I also know that they themselves were bullies at times and became the ultimate bullies that day.
00:45:55.060
If I were to tell, when I talk to kids, I say the biggest reason they did what they did
00:45:59.760
is that they focused on everything that was negative in this world.
00:46:03.020
And that's, that's the bigger reason. It's not bullying. Um, the bigger reason is, is what they
00:46:09.440
focused on. And so I have a program called value up and I named it that after reading, um, the book
00:46:18.240
from Sue Klebold. Her son was Dylan, one of the shooters at Columbine. Dylan wasn't going to go through
00:46:24.560
with the shooting. He thought Eric, his friend who was very psychopathic, um, was crazy. And he only
00:46:31.080
decided to go along with it in the last couple of months of his planning. He planned it for a year
00:46:36.040
and, uh, but he was more suicidal. And what his mom said was we valued Dylan, but he didn't value
00:46:43.400
himself. And it struck me because I realized I had already spoken to over a million teens across
00:46:49.140
the country in person. And I realized that's such a core issue when somebody doesn't believe in their
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own value. They're not going to treat other people with value, but if they can realize the truth and
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whether you want to come out this from a Christian perspective or other religion that, you know,
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Christian, you're fearfully, wonderfully made, um, other perspective that we just have the capacity
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within us to do great good. We have so much potential, especially young people. And so if they
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can realize it doesn't matter what they look like, it doesn't matter what other people say about
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them. It doesn't matter where they come from, who their family is, that they have a great potential
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in them to, and, and, and the capacity to do great things and be a positive influence in this world.
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Like my sister was, she did small things, stepped out of her way for, uh, a girl that sat all alone
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during lunch who just lost her mom in a car accident. I, uh, a friend, a friend told me how he has a
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a slight disability and he was made fun of and ignored, usually ignored a lot at school. His name
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was Adam. And the first time she met him, she stood up, a couple of guys were, were making fun
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of him. She stood up for him. And he told me that the time that she reached out to him, he was having
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thoughts of taking his life. And after she met him every day in the hallway, she would just say hi to
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him. And he said, he literally started waking up in the morning, looking forward to this day that
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this pretty girl would say hi to him in the hallway and a small act of kindness, human connection.
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What is going to really change our culture? What's real, how are we going to get to the root of the
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problem? Well, the root of the problem is in our hearts. The root of the problem is it really is.
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Those are where the problems are. It's also where the solutions are.
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