The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 748 - Cops Have Guns For A Reason

00:00:00.000 Here we go again. Another day, another police officer shooting a violent criminal.

00:00:07.540 Seems like you can't turn on the news anymore without seeing these sorts of stories.

00:00:12.540 Enough is enough. It is long past time in this country that we had a national conversation

00:00:19.900 about the discriminatory practice in many police departments to target people who are committing

00:00:27.460 crimes. That is discrimination. We will have that conversation. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the

00:00:33.920 Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:42.660 Rank, they discriminate between the people committing crimes and the people not committing

00:00:47.820 crimes. They discriminate between the people committing crimes and the people who are having

00:00:50.900 crimes committed against them. That's discrimination. My favorite comment yesterday from Timothy Brinson,

00:00:56.100 who says when the justice system loses its integrity, the mob can get away with anything.

00:01:01.660 Yes, absolutely true. It's a simple point, but it's totally true. And it's this point that I think

00:01:06.920 some people on the more libertarian right, they don't want to acknowledge sometimes, which is that

00:01:13.520 there will be order. Order will be instituted. Either we can order our own lives and we can

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00:01:29.860 maintain order or a bunch of roving street mobs are going to institute their own sort of order,

00:01:34.780 but order will be maintained. And as the justice department crumbles and as liberty is confused for

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00:03:12.660 the stabbing of children. They are. They are doing that to own the conservatives or to own the cops or

00:03:24.280 to own the white people or to, I don't know. They're just doing it to push their narrative,

00:03:27.580 but they are actually now in the position of defending teenage girls, stabbing other teenage girls

00:03:35.800 just so that a cop won't intervene, just so they can't give the cop credit for what he did right.

00:03:40.520 You've probably heard about this story by now if you haven't. A Columbus police officer shot 16-year-old

00:03:47.680 Makia Bryant. Now that the Derek Chauvin trial is over, the left needs some new case to focus on to

00:03:54.900 pretend that the country is really racist and terrible and black people are always being 1.00

00:03:59.380 attacked and white people are the devil. So they're focusing on this case. Poor little 16-year-old

00:04:05.460 Makia Bryant cut down in her prime by a racist, vicious cop, except for this very inconvenient 1.00

00:04:12.720 fact that we only know about because of body camera footage, which was that as when the cop shot

00:04:19.860 Makia Bryant, she was inches away from stabbing another girl. We've got the footage. Cop gets out of

00:04:27.800 his car, walks up. There's some kind of altercation going on. Okay. Someone gets knocked to the ground

00:04:34.380 and now a girl, there it is. Girl gets shot. The girl gets shot and she is inches away from stabbing

00:04:45.880 with a steak knife, another young girl. It all, it all kind of goes into this melee when this first

00:04:53.580 person on the side goes down. The cop is turned facing the person who goes down. Cop pulls out

00:04:58.820 his, his gun. You've got, you've got the footage right there. This girl, Makia Bryant is wielding

00:05:04.480 a giant knife, wraps it around on the side, is about to plunge it down into this other girl, 1.00

00:05:10.920 is inches away from it. And then the cop rightly shoots the attacker. That is the only thing that

00:05:18.720 he could do while still doing his job and pursuing justice. A just society would give this cop a

00:05:29.160 medal. A just society would give this cop an award. He saved a girl's life and shot a knife wielding

00:05:37.420 attacker. Our society is going to try to destroy him, is going to try to put him in prison, is going

00:05:44.980 to try to ruin his family, is going to call him a racist because he shot one black girl to save

00:05:52.100 another black girl who was about to be stabbed by the first black girl. But that makes him a racist

00:05:56.100 somehow. That's what's going to happen here. Some people want to, they want to say, look,

00:06:03.440 can't we just all get along? Can't we just have it both ways? Can't, look, maybe he shouldn't have

00:06:07.900 done that, but you know, look, I guess the girl had a knife, but you know, maybe he shouldn't. It's,

00:06:12.240 it's just a really sad thing. It's a tragedy. We'll get to the tragedy in a second because we

00:06:19.080 have to get through some of the stupid questions surrounding this first. I kid you not, there is

00:06:25.100 the suggestion on the left that the officer should have not shot, shot the victim, shot the perpetrator

00:06:32.000 rather, shot to kill. He should have just shot her in the ankle or something, shot her in the wrist,

00:06:37.280 shot her in the, shut the gun right out of her hand. This was a question posed to the police chief

00:06:41.840 yesterday. Chief, one of the big questions that has been asked primarily on social media,

00:06:47.140 and it may seem like a silly question that like, shouldn't people already know,

00:06:50.600 but this is a legitimate question that a lot of people are asking is, can an officer

00:06:55.900 shoot the leg? Can they shoot somewhere that would not result in a fatal wound, right? So a lot of people

00:07:02.920 have said, couldn't he have just shot her in the leg so she dropped? Couldn't he have shot her in the 0.64

00:07:06.640 arm? Something like that. Right. You know, okay, we got to pause it right there before we get to his

00:07:11.840 because he, this cop is pretty diplomatic here, but I will not be diplomatic. This is an extremely

00:07:18.020 dumb question. Basically what this reporter is asking, and look, I'm not even knocking on the

00:07:24.000 reporter. The reporter is just channeling what a lot of very stupid, ignorant people on the internet

00:07:28.600 are saying. He's basically asking, hey, um, couldn't, couldn't the cop have shot the knife

00:07:34.640 out of the girl's hand without harming her like Clint Eastwood in the good, the bad, and the ugly.

00:07:39.300 Couldn't the cop have had, you know, when he heard that harmonica come on,

00:07:43.560 couldn't he have just whipped out his gun, shot the knife out. And then, you know, the girl,

00:07:50.780 she would have looked really startled like the, like the other guy in the good, the bad,

00:07:53.900 and the ugly. And then, but then they all kind of would have laughed about it. No one would have

00:07:56.480 gotten hurt. Couldn't that come on. I saw it on, I saw it in the movies. That's the question. No,

00:08:01.860 that's not, I won't, I won't even explain why you can't do that. I will allow the expert,

00:08:08.260 the cop to explain why that is not such a great idea. One of the, uh, the difficult things with

00:08:13.220 that is, um, when you're trying, we, we don't train to shoot the leg because that's a small

00:08:18.740 target. We train to shoot center mass. What is available to stop that threat? There was a threat

00:08:23.420 going on, a deadly force threat that was going on. So the officer is trained to shoot center mass,

00:08:28.480 the largest part, part of a body that is available to them. When you try to start shooting legs or

00:08:34.260 arms, uh, rounds miss, and then they continue on. And there are people behind that, that could be

00:08:39.980 in danger that are not committing anything. Uh, so we try and minimize any danger to anyone else.

00:08:46.040 If we have to use our firearm, when you pull out a firearm in real life, that is not a video game.

00:08:53.580 When you pull out a, you're not playing around. It's not, here's a warning. Someone, I actually saw

00:08:59.300 someone say on Twitter, why couldn't he fire a warning shot into the air? Like he's a Mexican 1.00

00:09:03.840 gangster. Oh, you know, because I don't know if you're aware of this. Bullets, when they go up,

00:09:09.560 eventually because of gravity, they come back down. And if you're just shooting into the air,

00:09:17.580 when they come back down, it might not work out too well for you or for an innocent bystander.

00:09:23.120 Why couldn't he just shot her in the leg? One, she's moving like crazy. Two, actually, I'm sorry.

00:09:27.760 The first consideration here is she's got a knife inches from this girl's body. She's got a knife 1.00

00:09:33.220 coming down very quickly on this girl's body. So shooting her in the leg, probably not a smart 0.80

00:09:37.180 idea, even if it did work. Second leg, very, very small area moving very rapidly. You've got lots of

00:09:45.340 people around. You don't need bullets spraying everywhere. When you pull out a weapon and you shoot

00:09:49.940 that weapon at somebody, you are shooting to kill that person. That's just the way it works.

00:09:55.060 That's what guns do. That's what guns are for. And by the way, cops have guns for a reason. 0.95

00:10:01.320 Cops have guns to stop bad guys from doing bad things like this girl who was trying to stab. 1.00

00:10:09.620 And by the way, when you're stabbing, you're not, you're not just playing games either.

00:10:12.600 When you pull a knife out and you stab somebody, you are trying to kill that person.

00:10:18.100 And this cop saved that girl from getting killed by that other girl. That's a good thing. 1.00

00:10:23.980 That's a good thing. Or in our very degraded culture, race-obsessed culture, cynical culture, 0.86

00:10:34.480 it's an act of racism. And I'm not saying it's just some kook nut idiot on the internet. 1.00

00:10:40.180 This is what is being pushed without any evidence, actually in the face of all the evidence,

00:10:47.560 by the White House. Jen Psaki mouthing off on a subject about which she knows nothing

00:10:54.440 to gain political advantage by smearing people as racists.

00:10:59.120 The killing of 16-year-old Michaela Bryant by the Columbus police is tragic. She was a child.

00:11:04.340 We're thinking of her friends and family and the communities that are hurting and grieving her loss.

00:11:08.180 We know that police violence disproportionately impacts Black and Latino people in communities,

00:11:13.900 and that Black women and girls, like Black men and boys, experience higher rates of police violence.

00:11:19.020 We also know that there are particular vulnerabilities that children in foster care,

00:11:23.540 like Micaiah, face. And her death came, as you noted, just as America was hopeful of a step forward

00:11:28.740 after the traumatic and exhausting trial of Derek Chauvin and the verdict that was reached.

00:11:33.660 So our focus is on working to address systemic racism and implicit bias head-on, and of course,

00:11:40.320 to passing laws and legislation that will put much-needed reforms into place at police departments

00:11:46.040 around the country.

00:11:46.740 Implicit bias. It's racism. It's... What am I basing that on? Nothing.

00:11:52.880 Well, probably what? The, the victim, the person who was about to be stabbed, was that a white person?

00:11:59.340 No. Okay. It wasn't a white person. Ah, it's too bad. That would have made my argument easier. 0.89

00:12:02.900 Well, whatever. It's just, it's racism. You know, everything's racism. It's implicit too.

00:12:06.480 So if the fact that I can't point to it proves how, you know, super duper implicit and racist it is.

00:12:15.960 She was 16 years old. She was, she was a child, 16 years old. The same Democratic Party that tells

00:12:24.120 us that 16-year-olds are adults and should vote also tells us 16, they're just children. They

00:12:29.840 don't know anything. They can't do anything. The same Democratic Party that tells us that a

00:12:32.960 three-year-old can choose to mutilate himself and castrate himself and take cross-sex hormones

00:12:37.940 because he knows his, that he's really a girl, even if he's a boy. And the adults can't tell him

00:12:43.940 nothing because he knows and he's got the freedom to choose. Also tells us that a 16-year-old wielding

00:12:50.360 a knife, trying to kill somebody was, you know, just a, just a child. Come on. You can't do that.

00:12:56.560 Come on, man. By the way, even if she was just a child, if that child is trying to kill another child

00:13:04.980 and you've got less than a second to intervene, either you're going to let the one child die or

00:13:13.020 you're going to kill the child trying to kill the other child, you've still got to do it. You've

00:13:17.880 still got to use that force. That's a tough world. That's a real tragedy. Split second decisions. By

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00:14:48.640 Bryant is a tragedy. That is what we are being told. In a sense, it is. I'll tell you how it's not and then

00:14:59.920 I'll tell you how it is. The reason it's not a tragedy is because it is good when people who

00:15:05.780 are trying to stab other people are shot. That's a good thing. Because those people who are trying

00:15:12.820 to stab and very likely kill other people are committing a very heinous act. And when they are

00:15:20.880 prevented from doing that by a bullet, that's a good thing. I know that's a hard saying. It's hard

00:15:26.740 to understand. It's hard to look down this fallen world right as it is and say that it is good to

00:15:33.860 kill people before they can murder other people as they are trying to murder other people. It's hard

00:15:40.080 because we don't want to say it's not, it's awful to shoot anybody. But when we're talking about

00:15:45.440 gradations here, when we're talking about difficult choices, it's better to kill the criminal

00:15:52.120 than to let the criminal kill an innocent person. It is positively good, a good decision to do that.

00:16:01.880 Now, how is it a tragedy? It's a tragedy because this girl, Micaiah Bryant, did a very bad thing.

00:16:11.200 And it's, it's, it's actually sad to watch people face the consequences for their bad actions.

00:16:17.740 And because I'm sure this girl had a tough life. I think she was in foster care. 0.98

00:16:23.860 She obviously did not have a good family. She obviously was not raised right. She obviously 1.00

00:16:30.380 was not educated. She obviously was not prevented from making bad, evil choices.

00:16:38.700 Where we all have that inclination. We all have that broken human nature. Some of us have better

00:16:43.280 support systems than others. So that, that is genuinely tragic. I don't want to, I, I, I know

00:16:47.900 that conservatives in pushing back on the leftist narrative here, sometimes we go a little too far.

00:16:53.160 No, this girl had bad circumstances and she made evil decisions and it is actually sad. Even criminals,

00:16:58.940 even, even the worst criminals, it is sad, tragic to watch them go down that path because it doesn't

00:17:07.840 have to happen. It's not inevitable. Contrary to the left's fatalist narrative that everyone other

00:17:15.440 than straight white men is just a passive figure there. Only straight white men, according to the

00:17:20.440 left, are fully human with intellect and will who can, are in control of their lives. Everyone else,

00:17:26.560 according to that ideology, is just some passive figure who has moved around at the whims of straight

00:17:31.660 white men. That's not true. That's not true. The girl had, has free will, had free will. Girl had

00:17:38.960 some intellect. The girl could have used that the right way. She used it the wrong way. Now as a,

00:17:45.420 as a direct consequence of her actions, she is dead. Yup. That's, that's a sad fact of this world.

00:17:54.760 And the officer totally did the right thing and he should be commended for what he did and he should

00:18:00.160 be given an award. LeBron James disagrees with that. The mob is already coming after,

00:18:07.040 after this police officer. The mob being led by this zillionaire athlete idiot, LeBron James,

00:18:14.080 who tweeted out his picture and said, all caps, you're next with a, with a, an hourglass. And it says,

00:18:21.740 hashtag accountability. Accountability is the new word that the left is using instead of justice

00:18:28.500 because what the left is calling for is not justice because justice is an objective, eternal

00:18:32.760 thing that we perceive and try to pursue in our lives. Accountability is totally a social fact.

00:18:42.720 Accountability is just responsiveness, responsibility. It's just, it's just what I demand from you. Well,

00:18:48.120 that then you are accountable to me, but it's not based on anything objective or eternal.

00:18:52.440 I actually think that's the distinction at the heart here between accountability and justice.

00:18:58.160 So he's saying, yeah, we're coming for you, cop, hero cop who did the right thing and saved a life.

00:19:03.840 We're coming for you. LeBron James deleted that tweet. That's good. Glad he recognized he was wrong,

00:19:10.540 but then he sent out this tweet afterward and he just talked about, you know, it's the being used for

00:19:14.680 bad things might in the racism, but I'm sick of it. It's awful. It's terrible. Nobody. No,

00:19:19.800 no, you don't get it. You don't get it, LeBron. You don't get that it was absolutely right and just

00:19:26.500 for that cop to shoot Micaiah Bryant. I don't think he could have behaved any more appropriately

00:19:34.860 because he, it's not like he, she runs out of the house and he just starts shooting.

00:19:39.400 He waited until the knife was inches from the other girl and then he shot her. That's a good, 1.00

00:19:46.420 you should, LeBron James, not when you apologize, when you take that tweet down,

00:19:49.420 not only should you apologize for that tweet, you should thank that cop for doing his job

00:19:53.080 and for pursuing justice. And you should say, I, LeBron James, a total dummy was wrong. I,

00:20:01.240 I leapt to a conclusion that was not right. Thank you, sir, for pursuing justice. You think that's

00:20:07.060 going to happen? I don't think so because LeBron's a victim. Don't you know, LeBron James can't leave

00:20:13.360 his house without being hunted down by racist white people. Is that so? LeBron, he's, he is this poor

00:20:21.260 aggrieved man who lives in a world of white privilege. I do not want to be lectured by LeBron

00:20:30.500 James on privilege. I, you almost can't blame LeBron here for the same reason that you feel bad for

00:20:37.980 criminals. You also feel bad for totally benighted, ignorant idiots like LeBron James,

00:20:45.200 because I think he genuinely believes this stuff flies in the face of objective reality flies in the

00:20:52.320 face of everything we see. I think LeBron James really does believe that he's a victim, that he

00:20:57.860 has legitimate grievance, that this country, a black man can't make it in this country. 1.00

00:21:02.700 LeBron, he thinks this from his, I imagine golden palace that he's on, from his throne that he's

00:21:11.520 sitting on in his zillion dollar house, one of the most beloved for whatever reason and wealthy and

00:21:17.180 famous people in the country. Can't make it though because of the color of his skin, right? 0.93

00:21:22.560 He believes, and I'm not, I'm not being facetious when I say I sort of feel bad for his deep ignorance.

00:21:29.220 He has been raised in a culture that increasingly teaches people this sort of thing.

00:21:38.980 LeBron's a little too old to have been totally educated this way, but younger people are educated

00:21:46.520 this way. This is what they are told. This is what you're taught by critical race theory, for instance,

00:21:51.700 which is very much in the news these days. Critical race theory is a derivation of critical theory,

00:21:56.180 which is part of this radical cultural upheaval that began a hundred years ago or more, and that

00:22:02.320 has flowered into political correctness and wokeism and cancel culture. I explain this history at length

00:22:08.720 in my book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order. You can get it

00:22:12.800 right now. The critical race theory part, it's just part and parcel of it, but what it tells you is

00:22:18.760 you can't make, this is a hopelessly racist, bigoted, terrible country, and you can't make it,

00:22:24.860 so you got to hate the system and tear it down. What are we going to do about that? Well, Oklahoma

00:22:30.440 state senators are finally figuring it out, much more so, I mean, they're really leading on this issue

00:22:37.220 compared to so many of the squishes around the country in the Republican Party. 0.62

00:22:42.860 Oklahoma state senators have introduced a bill to ban critical race theory from public schools and

00:22:49.540 universities. This would prohibit teachers and administrators and other staff from teaching

00:22:55.360 that one race or sex is inherently superior to another, not allowed to do that anymore,

00:23:01.040 that an individual by virtue of his race or sex is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive,

00:23:05.680 whether consciously or unconsciously. That is being taught as gospel truth in boardrooms and

00:23:11.060 universities and schools right now. That will be banned. An individual should be discriminated 0.93

00:23:16.040 against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex. Yep,

00:23:19.620 that's being taught. Members of one race or sex cannot and should not attempt to treat others 0.66

00:23:23.600 without respect to race or sex. That is being taught. An individual's moral character is necessarily

00:23:29.680 determined by his or her race or sex. That is being taught. And all this stuff would be banned.

00:23:35.300 This has to be banned. I've said before, there were three positions on this poison in the

00:23:40.980 classroom. There's the position where you support it and you say, yeah, we want all this leftist

00:23:45.960 stuff. That's great. Let's go along with it. That's terrific. Then there's the position of,

00:23:50.260 well, it shouldn't be mandatory, but it can be taught if the schools want it to be taught.

00:23:53.820 And then there's the conservative position. No, academic freedom is a hoax to use the term of

00:23:59.400 William F. Buckley Jr. This is a farce, just a trick of political correctness that the left has used

00:24:05.180 to destroy our culture. Education is necessarily limited, exclusive, coercive. We're going to teach

00:24:13.780 some things. We're not going to teach other things. We're going to bring some things into

00:24:16.880 the classroom. We're going to ban other things from the classroom. And one of the things we're

00:24:21.620 going to ban is this poison, this trash, critical race theory, not going to allow it in. And you know

00:24:27.760 what, teachers, if you do teach this, you'll be punished. Maybe you'll be fired for it.

00:24:33.420 But Michael, what about freedom? Yeah, what about freedom? This undermines freedom, this thing.

00:24:39.020 There is a thought that stops thought, and that is a thought that ought to be stopped.

00:24:43.940 The position of critical race theory is that objective reality is an illusion. Our faculties of

00:24:51.280 reason are fake and the country's evil and deeply unjust and all its institutions, including the

00:24:56.780 educational ones. If you allow that idea to fester, you undermine the whole thing. You undermine our

00:25:03.200 conception of liberty. You undermine the whole country. Got to get rid of it. Got to kick it out.

00:25:07.640 Got to get a lot tougher. Ben, we'll be talking about Mr. LeBron James today, his cop-hating America.

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00:26:09.660 We're going to need tough, serious people in our politics to bring our country back from

00:26:14.280 the brink. And we may be getting one. Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need.

00:26:21.280 That would be Mark McCloskey. You'll remember Mark McCloskey and his wife holding those. He had the,

00:26:28.220 it looked like an AR-15. She had that little James Bond gun. And when BLM started storming up and breaking

00:26:35.080 their property, they did not roll over. They did not lie down. They did not say, please take whatever

00:26:39.760 you want because of your claims of historical grievance. And no, they pulled out their guns

00:26:44.220 and pointed that at them and said, get off my property. Get off my lawn. I said, get off my

00:26:48.760 lawn now. So they also did this while wearing their like great Brooks Brothers, you know,

00:26:53.720 pink polo shirt, white chinos, or, you know, khaki colored chinos. Anyway, I was hoping that either

00:27:02.140 the McCloskeys would become magazine cover models for the cover of the new J Press catalog or that

00:27:09.740 they would get involved in politics. Looks like it's going to be the latter. By the way, I spoke to

00:27:14.780 Mark McCloskey right when all this happened, because there was a rumor that he's a Democrat or something

00:27:18.600 and supported BLM. He said, that's just not true. He does not do that. He gave like 50 bucks once to his

00:27:24.140 Democrat buddy who was running for dog catcher or something, but he's a lifelong conservative Republican.

00:27:28.600 So he is considering running for U.S. Senate in Missouri. My hot take on this, I don't really know

00:27:35.780 very much about Mark McCloskey. I don't know anything really about the other candidates for Senate.

00:27:40.820 But my, my first gut really analytical reaction is awesome. Super cool. Great. Love that. Love,

00:27:51.320 I'm really glad he's running for Senate. I don't, I don't know about his political philosophy.

00:27:57.380 I don't know his, his intricate ideas about entitlement reform or something like that.

00:28:05.660 I don't, I don't know about his personal history. Here's what I do know. That guy stood up to BLM when

00:28:13.920 it counted. When, when it was getting real, when it was on the line, when a violent, angry mob came to

00:28:21.920 destroy his property and threaten him and his wife, he stood up to them and he faced legal threats

00:28:28.500 because of that. Didn't care. Faced physical threats, obviously because of that. Didn't care.

00:28:33.020 He stood up to defend not just his property, not just his life, but to defend what is right to stand

00:28:40.880 up for justice. That gives him, I think, a real, real advantage in the race. All the jokes about how

00:28:48.040 great they looked, you know, in the polos and the guns and everything that actual, those images did

00:28:52.980 represent something. They weren't just memes. They actually represented a stance for justice.

00:28:59.280 Very few people are willing to do that in Washington. Gives him, gives him a very good

00:29:05.040 advantage. Speaking of some people who actually do stand up for tough things in Washington,

00:29:09.800 there are few and far between. Senator Ted Cruz, my co-host on verdict. Senator Cruz absolutely nailed

00:29:18.840 this issue of election fraud and the double standards and this massive left-wing power grab.

00:29:26.300 He had Stacey Abrams, the fake governor of Georgia, who refused to admit that she lost the 0.64

00:29:32.520 governor race, pretended that she won the race, never faced any adverse consequences from that. Even

00:29:38.120 though now we're told if you ever question an election, you're going to be deplatformed and

00:29:41.160 ostracized and censored. If you're a Republican, if you're a Democrat, you have to question the

00:29:45.960 elections that you lose. Ted Cruz had Stacey Abrams right in front of her. He said, hey, just once and

00:29:51.460 for all, do you admit you lost the election? Ms. Abrams, it's been over two years and you still refuse to

00:30:00.060 concede that you lost the race for governor in Georgia in 2018. You have said that, quote, you do not

00:30:06.060 concede that the process was proper and that, quote, they stole it from the voters of Georgia.

00:30:12.300 Yes or no, today, do you still maintain that the 2018 Georgia election was stolen?

00:30:19.680 As I have always said, I acknowledged at the very beginning that Brian Kemp won under the rules that

00:30:28.180 were in place. What I object to are rules that permitted thousands of Georgia voters to be denied

00:30:34.340 their participation in this election, to have their votes cast out.

00:30:38.260 Ms. Abrams, I'm going to ask you to please answer the question I asked, which is, do you,

00:30:43.560 yes or no, do you still maintain the 2018 election was stolen? That's your language.

00:30:49.580 My full language was that it was stolen from the voters of Georgia.

00:30:53.860 Okay, so there's the answer. Who else would it be stolen from? Who would an election be stolen from?

00:30:59.860 When you cheat in an election, you are ultimately stealing the vote of, of the voters. So she's

00:31:04.900 saying, yes, I maintain that. I maintain that the 2018, I maintain this without any evidence that the

00:31:11.980 2018 election was stolen from me and that Brian Kemp is illegitimate. Therefore, right? I mean,

00:31:19.000 I think that's the, that's the implication. If you were to say that same thing about the 2020

00:31:25.580 presidential election, you would be kicked off of the internet and you might be investigated by the

00:31:31.600 FBI and you might be called an insurrectionist and un-American. But if you say that about the 2018

00:31:37.980 Georgia governor's election, which, which had far, far fewer irregularities, far less evidence in Georgia

00:31:46.580 2018 that anything weird was going on. If you said that about Georgia, you'd be celebrated. You'd be,

00:31:52.740 you'd be Stacey Abrams herself. So she makes this argument, you know, it's really, it was racism and

00:32:00.840 it, black votes were suppressed. So Senator Cruz is Senator Cruz. People forget he's a very good

00:32:08.480 prosecutor. He's argued cases before the Supreme court. That was his old job before he got into the

00:32:12.900 Senate. He comes with the receipts and he just shreds her stupid argument. Do you know in Georgia,

00:32:22.360 whether the percentage of, of African-American Georgians who are registered to vote and who

00:32:26.660 turned out to vote, is it higher or lower than the national average?

00:32:32.140 It is higher than the national average because Georgia is one of the largest

00:32:35.500 states with an African-American population. But that's not tied to the size of the population.

00:32:41.020 The percentage of black Georgians who are registered to vote in 2018 is 64.7%. That compares to 60.2%

00:32:48.320 as the national average. The percentage of Georgians who voted in 2018, the election you claim was

00:32:53.100 stolen from you was 56.3%. That's higher than the national average of 48%. Let me ask you this,

00:32:59.940 Ms. Abrams. In 2018, do you know which demographic group in Georgia had the highest registration

00:33:06.380 percentage and the highest turnout percentage?

00:33:08.200 I have a guess, but I will defer to you for the answer.

00:33:13.540 The answer is African-Americans had the highest registration and the highest turnout despite your

00:33:18.480 claiming that the election was stolen and there was somehow voter suppression.

00:33:22.540 I can't tell if Stacey Abrams is dull or dishonest. This may be not, maybe isn't an either or sort of

00:33:29.640 situation because Cruz says, Hey, do you know, you know what state did very, very well. It was like a real

00:33:37.300 leader in, in terms of the percentage of black voters who actually registered turned out to vote.

00:33:43.240 And she said, well, uh, yes, Georgia, that's true. Uh, yeah, we were good at that with the black 1.00

00:33:47.460 voters, but only because Georgia has a really big black population. You see the problem there? 1.00

00:33:53.740 The percent, the percentage of black voters in Georgia that are registered or voting has nothing

00:34:01.560 to do with the size of the population. It's a percentage. It's, it's okay. Whatever the population is,

00:34:06.500 this is the proportion of them that were registered and went out to vote.

00:34:11.120 And so Cruz points that out. He says, well, are you serious right now? Are you kidding me?

00:34:14.920 No. Let me explain to you what a percentage is, Stacey Abrams. And then she wises up. Then he goes on

00:34:21.320 and he says, Hey, do you know this? Do you know that? Do you know this? And eventually she says, I

00:34:26.400 defer to your expertise as well. She should as well. She should. It took, how long did it,

00:34:33.480 it took one minute to shred the whole argument over the voter suppression of the black people in

00:34:39.020 Georgia in 2018 took less than one minute for Ted Cruz. He's a sharp guy. Maybe it would take two

00:34:44.440 minutes for other people, but you could do it. You just look at the numbers. Meanwhile, when you talk

00:34:51.860 about irregularities in 2020, you had in the case of Pennsylvania, election officials

00:34:56.560 explicitly, obviously violating the state constitution when it comes to the use of

00:35:02.960 widespread mail-in ballots. But no, we're not allowed to talk about that. The issue here is

00:35:09.480 that it doesn't really come down to an argument. Stacey Abrams realized she's, she's at least sharp

00:35:14.820 enough to realize, Oh gosh, I'm about to get wrecked by Ted Cruz. Okay. I'll pull up. I'll try to push

00:35:19.560 back a little. Then I will humiliate myself by appearing not to understand what a percentage

00:35:24.160 is. And then I will, I'll just lay back and let Cruz do it because ultimately it doesn't really

00:35:29.760 matter. It doesn't matter how persuasive that argument is. It doesn't matter how thoroughly

00:35:36.600 Stacey Abrams's point is debunked. I think what the left is interested in right now is not logical

00:35:45.220 argument and persuading or being persuaded. I think they're interested in the use of power,

00:35:51.520 attaining political power, wielding that political power and pushing one's will absent

00:35:56.320 one's intellect or the rigor of one's logic. That's what this is really about.

00:36:03.020 So you got problems in the legislature, problems in the executive, and then into judiciary. I want to

00:36:08.060 turn to LA. LA right now is ordering the city to offer homeless people housing by the fall.

00:36:19.160 There's a lot of homeless people, a lot of bums and derelicts on the streets of Los Angeles,

00:36:24.120 especially Skid Row. It's like a third world country. And it's amazing too, because you'll be

00:36:28.500 in downtown LA and you'll be in some areas that are kind of nice. They're actually pretty impressive,

00:36:32.280 lots of money there. Then you make a wrong turn and you are in, you're surrounded by hundreds and

00:36:37.220 hundreds of bums and drug addicts and criminals and lunatics and derelicts. And you think, how on 0.66

00:36:45.360 earth is this taking place, one, in the United States, and two, in what is considered to be a

00:36:49.940 major city in the United States? So the judge, US District Judge David Carter, has outlined the

00:36:58.260 problems of homelessness here. And he says it's all about racism. Now his premise here is wrong,

00:37:04.120 but his policy conclusion, I think actually might have some point. He says, quote,

00:37:10.820 through redlining, containment, eminent domain, exclusionary zoning, and gentrification

00:37:15.720 designed to segregate and disenfranchise communities of color, the city and county of Los Angeles

00:37:22.140 created a legacy of entrenched structural racism. As shown most clearly in the present crisis of

00:37:27.980 homelessness, the effects of structural racism continue to threaten the lives of people of color

00:37:32.480 in Los Angeles. Very offensive thing he's saying. He's saying, yeah, if you're black, you're just

00:37:37.120 going to live on the streets on Skid Row. Because you're black and you can't do anything. And no white 1.00

00:37:42.420 people live on the streets of Skid Row and no black people have mansions. No black people have even 1.00

00:37:47.420 homes. Black people can't make it. Like LeBron James, he's living on Skid Row, right? Because of 1.00

00:37:52.660 structural racism. You know, a real irony here too is, do you know who famously spent several days

00:37:59.480 getting into violent altercations over crack cocaine sales on Skid Row? Do you know who did

00:38:05.620 that? Hunter Biden. Very famously, during one of his more than week-long benders in Los Angeles,

00:38:13.160 winds up on Skid Row getting into fistfights and haggling over the price of crack. Hunter Biden,

00:38:20.700 last I checked, not a person of color. Not, I don't think so. I don't know. Corn pop, maybe. But

00:38:29.980 Joe Biden, or Hunter Biden, rather, I don't think so. I don't, it's not a racial thing. I don't think

00:38:36.720 that structural racism forced these, forced the drug addicts to take all the drugs, forced the

00:38:44.000 lunatics to live on the street, forced the criminals to commit crime. I don't think structural

00:38:48.940 racism caused any of that. I think the brokenness of man and then the evil choices that man makes and

00:38:56.600 then the erosion of one's own discipline and free will because of those evil choices and because of

00:39:03.500 the habit of vice, I think that's what caused it. But I will say, I do think that the city of Los

00:39:12.780 Angeles should house these people. I do. I actually do. It is a dysfunctional act for people

00:39:17.660 to live on the street. It should not be tolerated. And what LA wants to pretend, what a lot of liberals

00:39:23.780 want to pretend is that we got rid of the insane asylums in the 60s and 70s because we didn't,

00:39:29.880 it was wrong. It was taking away people's freedom to put these lunatics in insane asylums. 0.87

00:39:35.560 They're so much more free now that they're living in squalor on the street. No, they're not.

00:39:38.880 The reason they're not free is because they're not in command of their intellect and their will.

00:39:44.780 So now, so they're living in filth on the street in danger of physical violence all the time.

00:39:49.760 That's not better than living in an insane asylum. There were two types of housing that

00:39:56.120 the city of Los Angeles should provide to these bums on Skid Row. Insane asylums, which should be 1.00

00:40:03.960 rebuilt. It would be an act of compassion to rebuild the insane asylums and take people living 1.00

00:40:08.580 in filth on the street and put them into places that are probably not going to be very nice, but

00:40:13.360 it's going to be better than living on the street. And this is, this is a difficult fallen world. And if

00:40:18.840 we can make a little improvement here, we should. They should either put them in insane asylums 1.00

00:40:23.480 or prisons. It's a dysfunctional act to live on the street. A lot of these people, they're drug addicts.

00:40:30.720 Okay. That should be against, that should be against the law where it's not. It is against

00:40:35.480 the law in very many places. We should not have people strung out on meth and PCP and crack like

00:40:40.980 Hunter Biden running around the streets, threatening the public order, put them in jail. It's a good

00:40:47.180 place for them. And then who else? Just loafers and the indigent? Probably got to arrest them too. 1.00

00:40:53.960 Because you're not, you don't have a claim. You're not allowed to live on the sidewalk.

00:40:58.260 It's not good for you. It's not good for society. It's not civilized. Yes, I sort of agree with this

00:41:05.280 judge for all sorts of different reasons. I agree with this judge. How's the homeless put them in 0.97

00:41:11.140 jails or institutions? Absolutely. The political order is changing rapidly.

00:41:20.900 You are seeing a realignment. You are seeing some people who were liberals and moderates

00:41:28.080 who would, would have called themselves Democrats or on the left. They're, they're watching the left

00:41:34.160 right now undermine our system of government, call for the abolition of cops, march through the streets,

00:41:40.680 burning down private businesses and houses and government buildings. And they're looking at that

00:41:44.280 and they're saying, I can't, can't do that. I'm out. They're seeing the left push transgender

00:41:49.760 ideology on kids, castrate little children. And they're saying, I'm out. They're seeing the left

00:41:54.480 defending a girl who was trying to stab another girl just to own the cops or whatever. And they're

00:42:01.120 saying, I'm not part of this. You've seen that. You saw a lot of people move over to the Trump camp

00:42:09.500 who were previously not engaged in politics or who are not Republicans. You were also seeing

00:42:13.940 former Republicans who were liberal squishes, leave the party.

00:42:20.340 I'm referring of course to most famously, I guess, Bill Kristol, who was a major, major Republican figure

00:42:26.780 who then left the Republican party and now supports Democrats and works in Democrat activism

00:42:32.600 because he doesn't like the new direction of the Republican party.

00:42:35.840 You had the, the remaining never Trump contingent. Very, there aren't very many of the never Trumpers

00:42:42.580 that were left in 2020, but people like David French, for instance, or I think Jonah, Jonah

00:42:48.200 Goldberg is still never Trump who they don't like. I'm not even personally attacking them. I'm just

00:42:53.720 saying they don't like where the Republican party is going. So they're leaving and they will either

00:42:57.980 totally check out or in some cases will actively support Democrats, will actively vote for Joe Biden.

00:43:04.060 And then there's George W. Bush, who was our last Republican president before Donald Trump.

00:43:12.420 And George W. Bush was, I think, a little upset at the way Trump treated his brother, Jeb.

00:43:17.240 And I suspect he did not vote for Donald Trump. He did not attend the RNC. And now he's coming out

00:43:27.920 and really markedly criticizing the GOP. He went on NBC News where his daughter works and he was pushing

00:43:33.680 his new book, which is an art collection. I actually have one of President Bush's art,

00:43:37.960 art collections. It's like a coffee table book of, of veterans. It's pretty impressive for a,

00:43:43.200 for an amateur, a relatively recent painter. So he's got a new one about immigrants and he was

00:43:47.780 plugging the book and he took the opportunity to attack the GOP. If you were to describe the

00:43:54.900 Republican party as you see it today, how would you describe it?

00:43:58.780 Uh, I would describe it as isolationist, protectionist, and to a certain extent,

00:44:04.880 nativist. Hmm. And he disappointed. Well, it's not exactly my vision, but you know what? I'm just

00:44:11.300 an old guy. They put out the pasture. So just a simple painter, the simple painter.

00:44:16.280 So even if you don't like what George Bush is saying here, and I obviously have

00:44:20.560 great disagreements, you do remember how likable this guy is. You do. And I think it's sort of

00:44:26.380 genuine. I actually have, I really do have a soft spot for George W. Bush, even though I don't like

00:44:31.020 the direction that he took the Republican party. I'm very glad that his brand of conservatism is over.

00:44:37.560 One can, one can have an honest disagreement here and just say, yeah, Hey, you might be a nice guy,

00:44:42.300 but your vision of the party, that's, that's over. That's the past. It's good that that's over.

00:44:47.820 We're moving in a stronger, more conservative direction. Is the GOP isolationist now? I don't

00:44:54.140 believe that. I think we're more skeptical of Wilsonian adventurism and creating Madisonian

00:44:59.760 democracies in the Middle East. But I don't, I think it's unfair to call that isolationist.

00:45:05.320 Is it protectionist? Well, I think we're a little, we're a little skeptical of total free trade,

00:45:11.900 where all of our trading partners cheat and they violate WTO treaties and they get an advantage

00:45:18.480 and they illegally subsidize their steel and aluminum to use the, and they illegally

00:45:22.620 inflate their currency in China. And we have to play by a different set of rules. I don't,

00:45:28.620 that doesn't even seem very free to me. So yeah, we're skeptical of that. Nativist,

00:45:33.020 what does that word even mean? We think that the government of the United States should

00:45:37.640 protect the citizens of the United States more than foreigners. Yeah, duh. That's what every 1.00

00:45:42.520 country should do. It's not a racial thing. There are a lot of native Americans. I'm a native

00:45:46.960 American. LeBron James is a native American. A lot of people born in this country, all different

00:45:53.880 sorts of races and backgrounds. But we take in millions and millions of people every year,

00:45:59.340 more than any other country in the world by a country mile. And we have something like,

00:46:05.240 I think 51 million immigrants or something living in the country right now. It's a lot. And if you're 1.00

00:46:09.380 not going to assimilate people, that, that really does threaten the integrity of your culture and 0.83

00:46:13.460 your country. Not saying it's because we hate the Mexicans or something. It's just, you can't,

00:46:17.660 if you have a totally open border, you don't have a country anymore. Is that nativist? No,

00:46:21.860 come on, give me a break. And now President Bush, very, very upset and worried about Afghanistan

00:46:27.520 because Joe Biden has an, Trump started it and now Biden is concluding it saying,

00:46:32.480 we're going to pull out of Afghanistan. George Bush doesn't like that very much.

00:46:35.940 My first reaction was, wow, these girls are going to have real trouble with the Taliban. 1.00

00:46:41.260 And a lot of gains have been made. And, uh, and so I'm deeply concerned about the plight of women

00:46:47.580 and girls in, in, in, in that country. I think we should have held off on that decision. Well,

00:46:51.660 I think we'll see. I mean, the time will tell. I, I, I think the administration hopes that the

00:46:57.140 girls are going to be okay through diplomacy. Uh, we'll find out. All I know is the Taliban, 0.99

00:47:02.080 man, when they had the run of the place, they were brutal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, do you,

00:47:07.100 can you believe it's been 20 years since we went in there? Uh, you know, uh, we went into Korea in 52.

00:47:13.760 Yeah. We went into Germany in 42 or 44. Yeah. So, yeah, no, I mean, yeah, 20 years. I guess

00:47:22.860 you're going to say, can you believe that offers you were in there first 20 years ago? Yeah. Time

00:47:28.760 flies. Time flies. And so all I wish George Bush has an honest position here, which is that we

00:47:34.580 should stay in Afghanistan forever, I guess. But because there's not a certain point you leave 0.98

00:47:39.500 and then guess who's coming back? The, these tribal warriors and the Taliban. So the girls are

00:47:44.040 going to be in just as bad a position, whether we leave today or we leave in a hundred years,

00:47:47.580 you're not going to root that out. You're not going to totally transform Afghanistan,

00:47:52.180 which is a very ancient place into some, into fifth Avenue or something. But I just wish he

00:47:58.820 were honest about it and say, look, my, my vision is an American global empire. And I support that on

00:48:06.300 the basis of a sort of abstract liberalism and following in the footsteps of Woodrow Wilson say.

00:48:12.040 And so, yeah, we're never going to leave and we're going to invade more countries and we're going to

00:48:14.680 make them more like us. And that's the way it's going to be. But that argument wouldn't work.

00:48:20.480 It obviously isn't going to work. And I don't even think they'd admit it. Let's not forget the

00:48:23.180 Bushes have never been particularly conservative. George Jeb called illegal immigration an act of

00:48:29.460 love. George W called himself a compassionate conservative as opposed to what? The heartless

00:48:33.640 conservatives. George H.W. Bush said he wanted a kinder, gentler nation. Nancy Reagan famously asked

00:48:38.720 kinder and gentler than whom? Meaning Reagan, you know, the more conservative guy. And Prescott Bush,

00:48:44.680 helped to found Planned Parenthood. Okay. So it's not, I have a piece on this at the Daily Wire too.

00:48:50.620 So it's not, not even an attack on the Bushes. Just saying they represent the liberal wing of the

00:48:54.720 Republican party. Now we're moving back to a more conservative part of the Republican party.

00:48:59.800 Bushes have represented the liberal wing of that party since 1952 at least.

00:49:03.420 And now we're moving in a more conservative direction. That's a good thing. And it's going

00:49:09.980 to, you're going to hear a lot of heartstrings and a lot of narratives and a lot of, of

00:49:14.720 unpersuasive arguments. We ought to keep our eyes on justice. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 22, 2021

Ep. 748 - Cops Have Guns For A Reason

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