The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 76 - The Best Words： Trump vs. PC at the CDC

00:00:00.000 The fake news media breathlessly reported over the weekend that the Trump administration has banned the Center for Disease Control and Prevention from using the words fetus, transgender, vulnerable, science-based, entitlement, diversity, and evidence-based.

00:00:14.620 The story, predictably, is not true, but it should be true because that is the essential Trump project.

00:00:20.760 We will analyze the left's insidious abuse of language.

00:00:24.460 Then, Alicia Krauss and Amanda Presto Giacomo join the panel of deplorables to discuss how expensive it would be to legalize these so-called dreamers. 0.97

00:00:32.520 How's that for euphemistic language?

00:00:34.720 Pope Francis' condemnation of fake news, and speaking of fake news, Al Franken's possible unresignation.

00:00:41.460 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:00:53.480 I am coming in from a flight last night.

00:00:56.100 I had a red eye on Thursday, and then I had a red eye last night.

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00:01:04.840 Two things are so nice.

00:01:06.420 President Trump, his administration, and the news media.

00:01:09.900 Because just when you think, oh, God, what kind of show are we going to have today?

00:01:13.220 I haven't been paying great attention to the news last day or so.

00:01:16.580 You get a big whopper like this.

00:01:18.280 This CDC story is the essential Donald Trump project.

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00:03:55.980 Okay, we have got to get into this CDC thing because this is what PC is all about,

00:04:02.880 and it's largely why Donald Trump was elected president.

00:04:05.560 The Washington Post ran a fake story over the weekend,

00:04:08.480 which is not exactly man bites dog, is it?

00:04:11.200 But the headline goes like this, CDC gets a list of forbidden words,

00:04:16.520 fetus, transgender, diversity.

00:04:19.360 That is fake news.

00:04:20.480 That headline is not true.

00:04:22.360 No words have been banned for use by the Trump administration.

00:04:25.760 But that makes sense.

00:04:26.840 When the Washington Post runs a headline, assume the opposite is true.

00:04:29.740 Now, at most, there is some kernel of truth here.

00:04:32.320 At most, agencies like the CDC have been directed to avoid certain language

00:04:38.100 in budget proposals to facilitate funding from the Republican-controlled Congress,

00:04:43.040 which makes sense.

00:04:43.880 You want certain language to make it easier to pass these bills.

00:04:46.700 But the story itself is absurd.

00:04:48.440 So what happened?

00:04:49.160 Nancy Pelosi, in typically untrue and hysterical fashion, tweeted out, 0.84

00:04:53.960 DANGER, all caps.

00:04:55.740 Trump admin is going further down a dangerous and un-American path of word and thought control.

00:05:02.380 POTUS has no respect for and has banned words.

00:05:05.620 This is, that is truly unbelievable.

00:05:07.700 This is total projection.

00:05:10.320 It's Nancy Pelosi looking in the mirror and then throwing that onto Donald Trump. 0.88

00:05:14.280 Now, federal officials, former Obama appointees, 1.00

00:05:16.780 they've shrieked that the imaginary ban was Orwellian and stupid. 0.99

00:05:21.620 But it doesn't end there. 1.00

00:05:24.940 Here is, for comment, President Trump.

00:05:28.420 I know words.

00:05:29.300 I have the best words.

00:05:30.840 I have the best. 1.00

00:05:31.640 But there's no better word than stupid. 1.00

00:05:34.000 Well said. 1.00

00:05:34.760 Absolutely right.

00:05:36.020 Unfortunately, though, unfortunately, there is no government-wide language recommendation.

00:05:40.760 This is just a directive regarding certain budget documents.

00:05:43.780 The words in question, by the way, are fetus, transgender, vulnerable, science-based,

00:05:49.120 entitlement, diversity, and evidence-based.

00:05:52.400 And by the way, it's too bad that there are no government-wide language recommendations here

00:05:55.900 because all of those words that I just said are empty slogans.

00:05:59.340 They're insidious.

00:06:00.160 They are politically correct euphemisms intended to obscure what they really mean.

00:06:05.040 So let's start with fetus.

00:06:06.200 What is fetus? 0.97

00:06:07.020 We use fetus to mean something that isn't a human being so we can kill it. 0.99

00:06:11.640 But fetus comes from the Latin for offspring.

00:06:14.060 That's all the word means.

00:06:15.380 Why not call it an unborn baby?

00:06:16.760 Why not call it offspring?

00:06:17.660 Because the word fetus allows you to make the baby seem clinical, seem not human, seem not alive.

00:06:23.820 We know two things about unborn babies.

00:06:26.520 They're human and they're alive.

00:06:28.080 But we need to wash over that.

00:06:30.980 We need to obscure that language with muddy, Latin words. 0.76

00:06:34.260 We don't really, oh, it's a fetus.

00:06:35.400 Don't worry. 1.00

00:06:35.700 We can kill it. 1.00

00:06:36.200 It's just a fetus. 1.00

00:06:36.980 Same with transgender. 1.00

00:06:38.120 Now, the modifier trans means across or beyond, right? 0.71

00:06:43.640 So it actually doesn't even make sense in the way they're using it, which is a man who thinks he's a woman or vice versa or really wants to be one.

00:06:52.520 That isn't even very precise.

00:06:54.240 It would really mean transcending gender overall, going beyond the categories of gender, you know, as might happen in heaven, right?

00:07:00.900 There's no male or female in Christ.

00:07:02.840 That would be the transcendence.

00:07:04.200 It's funny, if you look in C.S. Lewis, I forget which book of his it is.

00:07:08.540 It might be Miracles.

00:07:10.160 He uses the word transsexual to refer to how in heaven we're not lusty and we don't have sexuality as much.

00:07:17.760 But that's not how they use it.

00:07:19.000 They use it because we don't want to say a man who thinks he's a woman or a woman who thinks she's a man or someone suffering from a psychological condition that makes them confused about their biological sex.

00:07:30.000 It's just transgender is much easier. 0.99

00:07:31.660 Vulnerable.

00:07:32.120 What does vulnerable mean?

00:07:32.960 We're all vulnerable.

00:07:34.160 We're all going to die.

00:07:35.020 No one here gets out of live.

00:07:36.180 But what vulnerable is used to do is slice people up into little demographics and demagogue on them and use them as political fodder to achieve political goals.

00:07:45.620 How about science-based or evidence-based?

00:07:48.260 These two are totally demagogic political words.

00:07:52.340 Of course, things are science-based.

00:07:54.160 It's used by the left to say that anyone who doesn't go along with their crazy plans to disrupt the economy or to add more government spending or add more to the federal deficit, they're ignoring science.

00:08:07.420 They seem to forget that you can't derive an ought from an is.

00:08:10.700 You can't derive ideas about what we should do from things that are.

00:08:15.580 But they try to lie over that, and so they'll say, well, this is science-based.

00:08:20.100 The science tells me we have to raise taxes on everybody and spend a lot of money.

00:08:24.380 That's the science.

00:08:25.360 It's not my political point of view or my ideology.

00:08:27.980 So those two as well, they're used to mean the opposite of what they really do.

00:08:32.340 How about entitlement?

00:08:33.880 What's an entitlement?

00:08:35.240 Well, one, entitlements are bad because it leads to much more economic or rather much more federal growth.

00:08:42.060 The entire deficit in national debt is driven by these entitlement programs, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

00:08:48.120 But also, one isn't entitled to anything.

00:08:50.680 What it really means is welfare.

00:08:51.960 What it really means is a handout.

00:08:53.780 It means going on the dole.

00:08:55.460 But entitlement, that's the way that we polish it.

00:08:59.160 Or diversity.

00:09:00.020 Diversity is probably the most abused one.

00:09:02.320 Diversity should mean differences, right?

00:09:05.040 But the way it's used on campuses here, we say we have to have diversity, and that's why we need to ban anyone from speaking who thinks anything contrary to what we think in the university orthodoxy.

00:09:15.660 Or diversity means race discrimination.

00:09:17.840 So using the university example, you might say we need more diversity, and that's why we need to discriminate against Asian applicants to universities. 1.00

00:09:26.080 Because we need diversity.

00:09:27.060 You know, that's how we get diversity.

00:09:28.760 It never means diversity of thought.

00:09:31.080 Usually what it means is homogeneity.

00:09:33.220 So apparently the CDC was told to replace, you know, science-based, for example, in these documents with, quote, the CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes.

00:09:45.700 Good.

00:09:46.440 That is more precise.

00:09:47.940 Because science-based is so vague.

00:09:50.080 Science-based is a euphemism.

00:09:51.340 What we really mean by science-based, especially what the left means, is there is an aspect of our thought which is scientific, and then we are reading that through our ideological lens with our values and our community guidelines or whatever.

00:10:03.680 But science isn't the be-all and end-all because policy doesn't come from science.

00:10:07.380 We can't just have technocrats telling us what to do because men aren't machines. 1.00

00:10:11.680 There's a value in the world.

00:10:12.860 There's moral weight.

00:10:13.760 There's moral value.

00:10:14.660 And so we can use science and the scientific method as much as it's useful for, and it's very useful, but it isn't sufficient because there's another component to the world.

00:10:24.740 There's more between heaven and earth that's dreamed of in our philosophy.

00:10:27.680 There's a metaphysical component to the world too, and we have to take that into consideration because government, because politics is the relation of people to one another, and government is how we rule ourselves.

00:10:37.440 Now, this directive is very limited, but it should expand.

00:10:40.540 This is the essential Trump project.

00:10:42.120 He shatters these gooey, awful euphemisms into empty language, which is what political correctness is, to get to the heart of the matter in his own very Trumpy, covefe way.

00:10:51.140 Watch him expertly take on the euphemism army.

00:10:54.520 Are you aware of the term anchor, baby?

00:10:56.660 That's an offensive term.

00:10:57.940 People find that-

00:10:58.560 You mean it's not politically correct, and yet everybody uses it?

00:11:01.700 So you know what?

00:11:02.660 Give me a different term.

00:11:03.500 Give me a different term.

00:11:04.200 What else would you like to say?

00:11:05.640 The American-born child of an undocumented-

00:11:07.780 You want me to say that?

00:11:08.720 Okay.

00:11:09.020 I'll use the word anchor, baby.

00:11:10.460 Excuse me.

00:11:11.080 I'll use the word anchor, baby.

00:11:13.760 It's brilliant. 0.98

00:11:14.660 This was, by the way, one of the moments in the campaign where I started to think that Donald Trump maybe wasn't just a complete lunatic ignoramus, but maybe he knows what he's doing. 0.98

00:11:23.580 Because what he's saying is anchor, baby. 0.99

00:11:25.340 That paints a picture.

00:11:26.580 We know what we mean.

00:11:27.420 We're talking about children who are born in the United States as a pathway to citizenship for themselves and their families.

00:11:32.320 And it's very hard to hear what that reporter is saying, but it's something to the effect of, well, you should call them future undocumented American citizens without the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, obscuring the whole thing.

00:11:44.580 And Trump says, yeah, you know what?

00:11:46.340 I'm going to stick with anchor, baby.

00:11:47.420 I'm going to stick with the clear language because that's how I'm going to convince people about these issues.

00:11:53.120 I can't convince them on your terms, on your crazy abusive language.

00:11:57.240 I'm going to use reality, terms that better correspond with reality, and that's going to break your stranglehold on thought and politics.

00:12:04.280 George Carlin, the late comedian, talked about this himself.

00:12:07.600 Here he is.

00:12:08.400 We're using that soft language, that language that takes the life out of life.

00:12:13.320 And it is a function of time.

00:12:15.220 It does keep getting worse.

00:12:16.840 Give you another example.

00:12:17.760 Sometime during my life, sometime during my life, toilet paper became bathroom tissue.

00:12:24.480 Sneakers became running shoes.

00:12:27.240 False teeth became dental appliances.

00:12:30.940 Medicine became medication.

00:12:33.140 Information became directory assistance.

00:12:36.540 The dump became the landfill.

00:12:39.560 Car crashes became automobile accidents.

00:12:42.680 Partly cloudy became partly sunny.

00:12:46.820 Motels became motor lodges.

00:12:50.280 House trailers became mobile homes.

00:12:53.660 Used cars became previously owned transportation.

00:12:57.240 Room service became guest room dining.

00:13:00.940 And constipation became occasional irregularity.

00:13:04.020 By the way, this is like decades ago that he's talking about this.

00:13:10.820 It's gotten so much worse since then, but it's that soft language.

00:13:14.220 It takes the life out of the words.

00:13:16.480 It takes what's convincing out of the words so that the people who are using this deceptive language, so that they can deceive us.

00:13:24.560 Euphemisms are insidious.

00:13:25.900 You know, people often say, oh, it's just semantics.

00:13:29.680 You're just arguing over semantics.

00:13:31.760 And of course, these people don't know what semantics means.

00:13:34.200 Semantics means meaning.

00:13:35.780 It's the study of meaning.

00:13:36.900 It's how signs and words and symbols relate to one another and to reality.

00:13:40.460 This is why the euphemisms are so insidious.

00:13:43.120 They just proceed by subtly deceiving us, by painting just a little bit off an untrue picture of reality.

00:13:49.700 Christopher Hitchens wrote,

00:13:51.160 For the sake of argument, then, one must never let a euphemism or a false consolation pass uncontested.

00:13:57.540 The truth seldom lies, but when it does lie, it lies somewhere in between.

00:14:03.200 It lies, it's, oh, it's just a little off, it's a little, we're just going to push you slightly a little bit off the mark

00:14:07.480 until we see a vision of reality that bears no relation to the truth.

00:14:11.920 Winston Churchill mockingly admitted, quote,

00:14:14.140 Perhaps we have been guilty of some terminological inexactitudes.

00:14:19.080 What he's really saying is we lied, we lied to you, but he's mocking even that concept in that phrase.

00:14:25.560 Terminological inexactitudes.

00:14:26.880 If you heard that, if some lefty went on television and said,

00:14:29.020 Terminological inexactitudes, your eyes would glaze over and they would get away with the deception.

00:14:33.380 But really it's lies.

00:14:34.240 That PC and euphemisms like this are lies.

00:14:37.480 Language is the medium of our consciousness.

00:14:40.040 It's how we view the world.

00:14:41.840 That's why the left is so insistent on political correctness,

00:14:45.060 on everybody using their terms and looking at the world on their terms.

00:14:49.580 This is why they're so insistent over these pronouns.

00:14:52.240 Virtually nobody in the country suffers from psychological gender confusion.

00:14:57.520 There are like five of these people.

00:14:58.860 There are not a lot of these people.

00:15:00.240 They're suffering and we can be compassionate to them.

00:15:02.240 But the left has invested countless funds, countless hours, energy into a national campaign to make everyone refer to men as she and women as he.

00:15:12.240 Why are we talking about this all the time?

00:15:14.660 Doesn't that strike you as a little odd?

00:15:16.240 If this campaign of language were really about the vanishingly small minority of people clinically confused about their biological sex,

00:15:23.860 wouldn't it be a smaller conversation?

00:15:25.580 But of course not.

00:15:26.600 It's part of a larger project of language to get us to buy their premises, their relativistic premises,

00:15:32.860 their debased and barbaric view of politics where we're just different competing interest groups that have no relation to the truth,

00:15:40.360 rather than civilized people who look at the world in different ways and debate it and try to get to reality.

00:15:46.360 The truth is arrogant.

00:15:47.440 They try to use reason to get to that truth.

00:15:50.100 Here are some other examples.

00:15:51.340 This is unbelievable.

00:15:52.440 We no longer have criminals.

00:15:54.380 According to Obama's Department of Justice, we have justice-involved youth.

00:15:59.960 Justice-involved youth is the terminology that Obama's DOJ started using to refer to criminal kids.

00:16:07.240 Now, ironically, they're injustice-involved.

00:16:09.800 They're committing injustices.

00:16:11.000 They're committing crime.

00:16:11.900 But justice-involved.

00:16:13.180 We can't even say that they're offenders.

00:16:16.000 They're not offenders.

00:16:16.640 They're just involved.

00:16:17.520 You know, I'm involved in justice.

00:16:19.960 I pay my taxes so we have a criminal justice system.

00:16:22.940 I give my legitimacy to a government.

00:16:25.380 I admit to its credibility.

00:16:27.600 That would be involved in justice. 0.96

00:16:28.880 These kids are criminals.

00:16:30.140 But we can't say that. 0.99

00:16:32.320 That's too mean.

00:16:33.200 That gives us the wrong picture.

00:16:34.400 We don't have wars anymore.

00:16:35.480 We just have overseas contingency operations.

00:16:39.940 Whatever.

00:16:40.220 Isn't that so vivid?

00:16:41.240 Doesn't it really paint a vivid picture?

00:16:42.940 The government forcing you to buy a product from a private company is not a mandate.

00:16:47.980 It's not an unprecedented mandate.

00:16:49.500 It's a, quote, individual shared responsibility payment.

00:16:53.660 Oh, good.

00:16:54.100 Okay.

00:16:54.260 In that case, take my money.

00:16:55.280 Here's my check.

00:16:55.700 The estate tax is used to refer to what is a death tax.

00:17:00.140 What is the death tax?

00:17:01.180 When you die, you have to pay a tax.

00:17:03.020 It's unbelievable.

00:17:03.840 But that has been taxed at the corporate level, at the income level, at the capital gains level.

00:17:08.900 But they've got to get you on the estate, or rather on the death tax, by calling it the estate tax.

00:17:15.640 Oh, well, it's an estate.

00:17:16.640 It's no big deal.

00:17:17.360 Illegal aliens became undocumented workers. 0.89

00:17:19.980 The most absurd version of this is the dreamers.

00:17:22.800 The dreamers. 0.92

00:17:23.680 These are illegal aliens. 0.97

00:17:24.960 This is a clear term.

00:17:26.260 But, no, they're just dreamers.

00:17:27.600 What?

00:17:27.840 You don't like the dreamers?

00:17:29.240 You hate dreams?

00:17:29.720 You want to kill dreams? 1.00

00:17:31.020 You monster. 1.00

00:17:32.140 Women's health now means killing a baby in the womb. 1.00

00:17:34.780 That is women's health. 1.00

00:17:35.780 You know when you call up your grandmother and you say, hey, how are you doing? 0.91

00:17:38.440 She goes, oh, well, I can still kill babies in the womb, so I have that. 1.00

00:17:40.920 At least I have that. 0.96

00:17:41.680 I don't think so.

00:17:42.520 But that is the euphemism. 0.91

00:17:43.600 We've even gone past pro-choice, which in itself is ridiculous.

00:17:46.740 Of course, it's a choice.

00:17:47.800 The question is, what choice is it?

00:17:49.160 We have choices.

00:17:50.180 We're free people.

00:17:51.480 The public option or the single-payer system, those are those two euphemisms instead of

00:17:56.060 government-controlled health care.

00:17:57.860 We have affirmative action instead of racial discrimination.

00:18:00.680 But what is affirmative action?

00:18:02.440 It's giving some people privileges based on their race and hurting some people based on

00:18:06.220 their race.

00:18:06.740 So I don't think that there's anything terribly affirmative for Asian students who are applying

00:18:10.900 to American universities.

00:18:12.460 What that is, by their view and by any serious view, is racial discrimination.

00:18:17.440 But that sounds too icky.

00:18:18.720 Terror attacks are man-caused disasters. 0.98

00:18:22.660 Gay marriage was lost on these grounds.

00:18:25.540 So the term gay marriage, which then became marriage equality, even a more outrageous euphemism,

00:18:31.680 it presumed a premise.

00:18:34.160 So the conservative opposition to gay marriage is not that gay people should be discriminated

00:18:41.160 against or not have certain rights or whatever.

00:18:43.700 It's that marriage does not include same-sex unions.

00:18:47.820 It's just not what marriage is.

00:18:49.900 It would be like, it's just a nonsense.

00:18:52.200 It's like saying, what's the color of seven?

00:18:53.820 It doesn't have a logical meaning.

00:18:56.340 And the left knew this.

00:18:57.440 So they used the term.

00:18:58.960 The minute they used the term, it totally shifted the debate.

00:19:02.040 It skipped the step of, what is marriage?

00:19:04.200 What do we think marriage is in 2017 in our culture?

00:19:07.300 What does it mean for society, for individuals, for the institution?

00:19:10.940 No.

00:19:11.240 It became marriage can include same-sex unions.

00:19:14.260 And will they have those rights?

00:19:15.660 This is where we got to marriage equality.

00:19:17.580 Because if it's a question of rights and equality, they have to win.

00:19:20.660 You can't oppose civil rights and equality.

00:19:23.400 And it totally skipped over, totally dishonestly and disingenuously, skipped over the real question,

00:19:29.020 which is, what is marriage?

00:19:30.160 And if marriage can include monogamous same-sex unions for the first time ever,

00:19:34.040 why would we exclude polygamous people or polyamorous arrangements from marriage? 0.83

00:19:39.040 That is just as bigoted by all of that logic.

00:19:41.760 Now, there's raising revenue.

00:19:43.220 We always have to raise revenue.

00:19:44.320 That's confiscating wealth through taxation.

00:19:46.720 There's giveaway for the wealthy.

00:19:48.200 That means allowing people to keep more of their own money.

00:19:50.120 That's the giveaway for them when you let them keep what's theirs.

00:19:52.480 Government spending has become investment.

00:19:54.940 It doesn't invest in anything.

00:19:55.840 It just spends.

00:19:56.620 But that's investment.

00:19:57.700 Global cooling became global warming, which became the unfalsifiable climate change.

00:20:02.800 It's hard to beat that.

00:20:04.220 Climate change, we notice that it changes.

00:20:07.380 We notice that there are ups and downs.

00:20:09.160 So that's how they won an argument there.

00:20:11.600 Obviously, obviously, we have the holiday that must not be named.

00:20:14.800 You know the holiday.

00:20:15.580 You're getting ready for the holiday season to welcome that big holiday man with the big beard

00:20:20.080 and really refer back to the incarnate birth of the holiday guy.

00:20:25.000 Yeah.

00:20:25.380 That's the – this is what the war on Christmas is about.

00:20:29.280 It's all – same argument holds for the war on Christmas. 0.51

00:20:31.800 Who cares about the words?

00:20:33.000 Who cares?

00:20:33.340 It's just semantics.

00:20:34.660 Right.

00:20:35.080 They care.

00:20:35.800 There's a reason they care.

00:20:36.680 Even the word liberal became illiberal.

00:20:40.080 It used to be liberals were liberal.

00:20:41.620 Now they're not liberal.

00:20:42.380 They're completely illiberal.

00:20:43.680 They're intolerant of anyone else's views.

00:20:45.480 And we should take care to follow President Trump's lead on this and avoid euphemistic

00:20:51.760 language at every turn.

00:20:53.280 I know it's tempting.

00:20:54.280 I know.

00:20:54.720 I was just in New York.

00:20:55.860 It's very tempting to try to make the New York Times like us or sophisticated, fancy people

00:21:00.060 at cocktail parties like us.

00:21:01.380 Just say, who cares about the pronouns? 0.96

00:21:03.060 Who cares about these silly terms?

00:21:04.720 It's just language. 0.96

00:21:06.200 Ah, they can have it if they want it.

00:21:07.620 Who cares?

00:21:09.160 The left cares.

00:21:09.900 We should care too.

00:21:10.820 The left cares a lot about it.

00:21:12.820 We should not cede to them a syllable because euphemistic language gives away whole premises.

00:21:17.560 It in turn concedes the culture.

00:21:19.400 Ultimately, it concedes our politics and our government and our liberty.

00:21:23.020 Words matter.

00:21:23.720 Ideas matter.

00:21:24.740 Reject PC gobbledygook and only use the best words, folks.

00:21:29.040 Come on.

00:21:29.400 We have them.

00:21:29.840 We got the best words.

00:21:30.520 Let's bring on our panel to discuss.

00:21:32.260 We have Alicia Krauss and Amanda Presta Giacomo, an all-female panel of deplorables today 1.00

00:21:37.420 and an all-Daily Wire panel.

00:21:39.380 Hey, the best kind.

00:21:40.900 It is the best kind.

00:21:42.220 Very nice to see you both.

00:21:43.420 Two aspects on this story.

00:21:45.220 Alicia, as far as the directive itself, is there an actual story here?

00:21:49.600 Is this a news story or were they just getting very excited to knock Trump on something?

00:21:53.600 Oh, of course.

00:21:54.160 They're super excited to knock Trump on something.

00:21:56.160 And I mean, Ben has said it over and over and over again, that being our boss, Ben Shapiro.

00:21:59.280 So I'll say something nice about him now, because it is the Christmas season, is that

00:22:02.740 he's totally right on this.

00:22:03.820 The holiday season, yeah.

00:22:04.300 The holiday season.

00:22:05.060 Christmas.

00:22:05.640 Christmas season.

00:22:06.580 Come on, Michael.

00:22:07.420 No war on Christmas here.

00:22:09.020 Stop with that political correctness.

00:22:11.220 It is the Christmas season.

00:22:13.020 And Ben is right.

00:22:14.340 So I'll let him have that he's right.

00:22:15.820 But the mainstream media often jumps just right to anything that Trump says or anything

00:22:20.280 that anyone within the administration does and just blows it up for no reason.

00:22:24.000 And sometimes it's hard that if he ever gets to a 10 to say that everything is a 10 when

00:22:29.160 some of the things that he does are maybe a level four or five.

00:22:31.740 But that's just too much for them.

00:22:34.280 Everything they take and run with.

00:22:35.680 That's absolutely right.

00:22:36.740 And I guess there's this little directive, who really cares?

00:22:40.060 We're talking about budget proposal documents.

00:22:41.860 But they got it.

00:22:42.560 They're going to run.

00:22:43.200 Democracy dies in darkness.

00:22:44.620 Now, speaking of George Carlin, Carlin said famously, when fascism comes to America,

00:22:49.540 it will not be in brown and black shirts.

00:22:51.640 It will not be with jackboots. 0.97

00:22:52.860 It will be Nike sneakers and smiley shirts.

00:22:56.700 Smiley, smiley.

00:22:58.000 And the smiley is the issue.

00:22:59.520 This is the issue here.

00:23:00.600 Amanda, when we refer to men who think they're women or wish very much to be women as she 1.00

00:23:06.680 or rather as he or him rather than she or her, we look like jerks. 0.99

00:23:12.540 Is there any way to avoid this? 0.99

00:23:15.960 Well, that's kind of the whole, as you deconstructed, that's kind of the whole point of them

00:23:20.440 reconstructing language and using euphemisms and being so adamant that we use these pronouns

00:23:25.680 or whatever is at task for that day.

00:23:29.220 That's why it's so important because then the opposite side, like how could you possibly

00:23:33.120 be against, you know, equality or diversity or, you know, insert buzzword here.

00:23:38.860 That's the whole point of the left deconstructing language.

00:23:42.040 So when it comes to things like gender and how they're just deconstructing gender, it

00:23:47.780 paints the right to be bigots, right? 0.98

00:23:50.000 They hate trans people. 0.99

00:23:51.400 How dare you not call this grown man and address, you know, she or, you know, Rebecca or whatever. 0.98

00:23:57.880 So, I mean, this is all by plan.

00:24:01.220 And as you said, I think conservatives need to really push back on this.

00:24:04.980 Don't, they're going to call you a bigot anyways.

00:24:07.060 They're going to call you transphobic anyway.

00:24:09.480 Just say what is truth.

00:24:11.240 Like you just have to stick to the truth because otherwise they win.

00:24:14.400 Like we can't keep conceding around as we do so often.

00:24:18.940 So they're going to call you names anyway.

00:24:21.440 And as we've seen from this past election, speak truth. 1.00

00:24:24.400 But is there any way not to look like a jerk? 0.99

00:24:26.960 I'm worried that we don't look good to a voting public, even though we're saying a true thing, 0.99

00:24:33.900 that a man is a man and a woman is a woman and you can't magically become one by wishing very much.

00:24:39.780 Alicia, you're much nicer than I am.

00:24:42.180 Is there any way to like smiley, smiley and look good on this?

00:24:45.800 I don't know.

00:24:46.560 I mean, I keep reading disturbing things in the news today about quote unquote fetuses

00:24:50.780 and what the UK with their national health care socialist, you know, system is doing

00:24:54.540 and not helping babies born early and I'm going to call them babies.

00:24:58.480 So the Trump administration's decision to change language with the CDC is, it's like fine.

00:25:03.080 It's fine by me.

00:25:04.100 I mean, if they want us to call them what they want to be called,

00:25:06.680 then maybe they should show us some respect and call babies in utero actually babies and not this fetuses.

00:25:11.240 Um, and, and I just think it's really disturbing.

00:25:13.780 I think that the, the broader it's on one hand, they want to have a hashtag me to women are always victims movement.

00:25:21.620 But then on the other hand, they want to change the narrative of what the nuclear family is

00:25:26.140 or the roles that men and women play in society. 0.98

00:25:28.580 And I just, every single time I try to look at it, every single time I try to think of like the leftist perspective,

00:25:33.680 it just doesn't make sense to me.

00:25:35.580 And they're, and I don't know what their long game is here.

00:25:38.000 Well, you, you're so right on the fetus bit that is so smart of them.

00:25:43.880 They've found a demographic that doesn't vote.

00:25:46.560 You know, Reagan used to say that he notices everyone who's in favor of abortion has already been born.

00:25:51.220 And those, those little babies don't have a voice in any of this.

00:25:54.420 They, they, they have the least voice of anybody. 0.91

00:25:57.380 So if you call them by a ridiculous euphemism, uh, they won't get angry and vote you out of office.

00:26:03.100 But we do, we do run that risk.

00:26:04.940 And I think you're both right.

00:26:06.160 I think we just have to put the truth above all things. 0.98

00:26:08.480 And if you state the truth in good faith and not trying to just be a jerk about it, 0.96

00:26:14.640 I think you'll get some credit for it and people might come around. 0.89

00:26:18.020 But, you know, there is that Bible that says people hate the truth.

00:26:20.420 They're going to run away from you.

00:26:21.460 So, uh, beware of what you're doing.

00:26:24.840 Caveat emptor.

00:26:25.800 Okay.

00:26:26.100 I've got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube.

00:26:28.640 We have much more to talk about today.

00:26:30.200 We got a lot of great news out there.

00:26:32.260 Pope Francis is saying things about fake news and probably damning CNN to hell.

00:26:37.060 Uh, we've got the dreamers.

00:26:38.880 We've got Al Franken unresigning.

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00:27:42.160 Okay, on egregious abuses of language meant to manipulate our heartstrings and deceive

00:27:48.660 us, it turns out that legalizing the so-called dreamers, the younger illegal aliens, would 0.84

00:27:55.720 cost payers $26 billion.

00:27:57.620 That's according to the Congressional Budget Office reporting Friday that legalizing these

00:28:02.280 two million illegal aliens, characterized by Obama as dreamers, would cost $25.9 billion.

00:28:10.160 Now, Alicia, Democrats are so generous with other people's money.

00:28:13.260 That sounds like a nightmare.

00:28:14.980 Is there any economic or political argument to give these people legal status, to give

00:28:19.600 them amnesty?

00:28:20.320 I don't know.

00:28:20.960 And I was starting to read the breakdown of it, which is why my head was down and my

00:28:24.660 eyes were glazed over when we started the segment.

00:28:26.980 That's usually the reaction I get from women, is just utter apathy, impatience. 1.00

00:28:32.300 It wasn't you.

00:28:33.360 It was the numbers.

00:28:34.160 And I was trying to break them down, and I was trying to understand them.

00:28:36.600 They're saying that, oh, it's over a decade, so it's not as big of a deal.

00:28:39.960 But you just mentioned that's two million dreamers.

00:28:42.360 I mean, I'm not that good at math, but that's way too much money per immigrant that would 1.00

00:28:46.840 become legalized under this potential plan that, of course, Democrats are pushing.

00:28:51.800 I think that there is an argument, a tug at the heartstrings, kind of Marco Rubio,

00:28:55.620 a Mitt Romney argument that they made of like, some of these people are not here at

00:28:59.040 the fault of their own.

00:28:59.980 So can we give them a path to citizenship that kind of enables them to be a part of

00:29:05.380 the American dream, but since it wasn't their fault if they were born here or their parents

00:29:10.780 brought them illegally across the border or on an airplane from Asia when they were

00:29:14.340 like two years old, right?

00:29:15.640 And actually, the biggest number of these people, I think, that are potentially going

00:29:18.640 to cost us are the people that come here on a travel or a student visa and then just 1.00

00:29:22.840 ride it out.

00:29:23.660 It isn't these dreamers.

00:29:24.700 So that's a separate part of the immigration that we have to take care of.

00:29:27.540 But I just, that is a lot of money to cover two million people.

00:29:31.700 And I don't know what argument the Democrats can make that to say, well, they're going

00:29:36.520 to end up paying this back to society because that's a lot of responsibility for those two

00:29:40.220 million dreamers to have on their own backs.

00:29:41.800 I mean, couldn't we send them to like Harvard Law School, PhD, buy them a house and a car

00:29:46.960 for all that money?

00:29:47.660 Where are they spending all this money?

00:29:49.060 Oh, I thought you were suggesting Ivy Leagues.

00:29:50.720 And I mean, everyone I've met at Ivy League, I can't stand, you know, but-

00:29:54.560 We certainly shouldn't send them there.

00:29:56.300 I'm all for saying they can stay if they promise to vote Republican, but that will not be achieved.

00:30:00.840 I'm not even for that because there's lots of Republicans, as we saw, aka Alabama, that

00:30:04.820 I'm not okay with.

00:30:05.700 I mean, I'm all for people staying that are going to contribute to the fundamentals of,

00:30:11.320 of, you know, what our constitution stands for, what the bill of rights stands for, and

00:30:15.480 going to, you know, provide for themselves and for their family.

00:30:18.540 And I just, this is one of those areas that when you get in the weeds and when you get in

00:30:22.780 the numbers, it is kind of hard to have a very clear cut and dry example.

00:30:27.800 But the numbers that they're coming up with out of this report are just astonishing and it's

00:30:32.120 way too much.

00:30:32.700 I know, and you're right on Alabama, it was awful when those Republicans stayed home and

00:30:36.520 gave it to Doug Jones.

00:30:37.420 It was awful.

00:30:38.520 Amanda, you know, Amanda, there has long been a pro-immigration strain in the GOP.

00:30:43.760 That's what Alicia's talking about, that Mitt Romney thing.

00:30:46.820 It's even in the conservative movement, though.

00:30:48.460 I mean, there are plenty of good arguments for immigration, and particularly from immigration

00:30:53.080 from Latin America, they work hard and they go to church.

00:30:55.660 So maybe we should adjust to them, you know, maybe we should take a page or two out of their

00:31:00.140 book.

00:31:00.440 But is that now finished?

00:31:02.600 Is that open borders, you know, come in and all that really matters is GDP and who cares

00:31:10.380 what happens to political institutions if we don't bring these people over and Americanize 0.98

00:31:16.340 them quickly enough?

00:31:17.400 Is that over?

00:31:18.420 And if so, what killed it?

00:31:19.500 I think this past election shows that, and this is across, I would say, political parties

00:31:28.440 as well.

00:31:29.120 People want a secure, sovereign nation.

00:31:32.100 They don't want people flowing through this country. 1.00

00:31:33.780 We saw that.

00:31:34.320 I mean, Donald Trump's number one platform was immigration, and it wasn't just illegal immigration.

00:31:39.220 It was that too.

00:31:39.880 But people want a strong, sovereign country.

00:31:43.360 And, you know, I just, I don't see how these dreamers or chain migration or any of these 1.00

00:31:49.200 things are wins for the left.

00:31:51.360 I mean, their whole goal, of course, is to bring over these dreamers or these illegals 1.00

00:31:55.840 and give amnesty because then they will vote a certain way.

00:31:58.780 And that's before now.

00:31:59.280 You get 80% voting for Democrat.

00:32:01.680 Yeah, 100%.

00:32:02.820 So that's their incentive.

00:32:04.020 But the American people don't want that.

00:32:06.700 Like I said, we saw that in the election.

00:32:08.620 So I don't see how it's, and especially with these dreamers, I don't understand how we're

00:32:14.760 just going to, I just, I don't think this makes any political sense.

00:32:17.900 So they're going to contribute, I think it was estimated $900 million, but they're going

00:32:22.180 to cost us $26 or $29 billion.

00:32:25.400 And that's just them, right?

00:32:26.900 We have like, I think it's estimated 12 million illegals in the country now.

00:32:30.640 And then with chain migration, if we don't get that clamped down on, they're going to

00:32:34.560 bring, those 2 million dreamers are going to bring over 800,000 other family members.

00:32:38.960 So this just compounds and compounds.

00:32:40.900 We're already in massive debt.

00:32:42.660 I just don't see how this is politically viable.

00:32:45.760 And I think the election showed that.

00:32:47.440 So we need to actually focus on the border, focus on the illegals we already have here. 0.98

00:32:52.780 And then dreamers should be like last.

00:32:54.600 And we can maybe, you know, use that as, you know, as a collateral to get what we want

00:33:01.660 on the right.

00:33:02.280 But I just, I don't see how it's a politically advantageous thing to do for the, for Republicans.

00:33:06.860 Well, it's funny because while Barack Obama and the left and Democrats were advocating spending

00:33:11.800 $26 billion, presumably giving these particular illegal aliens gold-plated Lamborghinis, he ended,

00:33:19.020 Barack Obama ended the wet foot, dry foot policy that allowed Cubans who were fleeing Cuban

00:33:25.420 slavery to have a legal status in America.

00:33:30.020 And it is, I can't help but notice that one group of those immigrants vote for Democrats

00:33:34.540 and those Cubans are pretty reliably Republican.

00:33:37.480 Well, and he even either-

00:33:38.200 Isn't that such a coincidence?

00:33:39.600 What a coincidence, huh?

00:33:40.820 He was even attacked by some immigration activists right here in California, in Los Angeles.

00:33:45.780 He had protesters stand up during speeches and up in the Bay Area as well.

00:33:49.520 He had Asian protesters, immigrant protesters stand up during some of his speeches because

00:33:53.460 it was kind of the do as I say, not as I do.

00:33:55.920 It was one of those campaign promises that he had made about, similar to I'm going to close

00:33:59.740 down Gitmo.

00:34:00.460 He had made promises to immigrants and to dreamers.

00:34:03.180 And toward the end of his second term, his own base started to get frustrated with him

00:34:07.140 when he realized he wasn't going to keep those promises that he had made.

00:34:10.060 Yeah, it's very hard.

00:34:11.000 And Gitmo's still open.

00:34:12.080 Not so bad.

00:34:12.720 Not so bad. 0.89

00:34:13.260 Having a far-lefty president is sometimes okay if he's also incompetent.

00:34:17.360 Pope Francis came out swinging against fake news on Saturday.

00:34:21.080 He said, presumably in Italian in his very nice Pope Francis way, we must not fall prey

00:34:26.660 to the sins of communication, disinformation, that is, giving just one side of the argument,

00:34:32.400 slander, which is sensationalistic, or defamation, looking for outdated and old things and bringing

00:34:38.260 them to light today.

00:34:40.220 Interesting in the wake of Me Too.

00:34:41.460 Amanda, has the Holy Father just condemned CNN to hell?

00:34:46.460 It looks like it.

00:34:47.620 I mean, he's putting his foot down on fake news, and the number one people disseminating

00:34:51.320 fake news happens to be CNN.

00:34:54.060 The New York Times and Washington Post are not far behind, but CNN is the main purveyor.

00:34:59.060 Yeah.

00:34:59.560 Yeah, definitely.

00:35:00.080 I mean, I know Pope Francis leans left on some things.

00:35:04.400 I mean, not on church doctrine, but just like climate change and things like that.

00:35:09.200 But this did seem like a slap in the face to the mainstream media.

00:35:14.720 So it's very welcome.

00:35:16.360 I actually think it's a good one.

00:35:17.360 Pope Francis, go ahead.

00:35:20.460 I was going to say, I think Pope Francis was a victim of fake news himself, so I think

00:35:24.780 he's a little upset by that as well.

00:35:25.680 He is.

00:35:26.180 The press is really, he might be to the left.

00:35:29.020 I don't think anyone would deny that.

00:35:30.960 But if you compare the number of things he has said with the number of things that the

00:35:34.860 mainstream media say that he has said, they're very different lists.

00:35:38.360 Now, Alicia, what do you make of the Pope's argument?

00:35:40.880 Is he essentially, because it cuts both ways.

00:35:42.740 It hits CNN, but it also hits those of us who have points of views as well.

00:35:46.220 Is he essentially saying that public relations is inherently sinful, that communications for

00:35:53.340 a campaign or a company?

00:35:55.020 I actually kind of thought that.

00:35:56.100 Like reading his detailed statement on it, I was like, oh, snap. 0.97

00:35:59.600 Like, I guess depending on what side of the aisle you are, your candidate is screwed and 0.90

00:36:03.200 the Pope thinks that you're spewing disinformation or trying to make things look better than they 0.98

00:36:07.500 are.

00:36:07.720 But I think to actually journalists as a whole, there's probably, I can count on one hand,

00:36:12.380 the journalists that I actually respect.

00:36:14.020 One of them would be Amy Parnes, who wrote that book about the fallout of Hillary Clinton's 1.00

00:36:17.840 campaign and how from the inside she saw it all going to shreds.

00:36:22.160 And part of the reason I trust her is that she does not talk about her political opinions.

00:36:26.100 She's not even registered to vote.

00:36:27.480 And so reading the Pope's quote, I think you could potentially construe it as, uh-oh, we're

00:36:33.200 in commentary politics and he's kind of poo-pooing on us.

00:36:36.100 But then you could also read it as an encouragement to true journalists to go out and do their

00:36:40.660 journalistic duty, which is to get to the truth, which is to get to the bottom line and

00:36:44.720 to not offer their political opinion or their side to it should truly be, to steal a Fox

00:36:50.280 News phrase, fair and balanced.

00:36:52.220 But I think it could apply to, you know, the Fox Newses of the world and also the CNNs of the

00:36:56.840 world here.

00:36:57.400 And we're very, we always try to be very fair and balanced here.

00:37:00.040 Also, is this your favorite news story of the week?

00:37:01.840 It's like your Pope and fake news, like in the same story.

00:37:05.540 It really is like a Christmas present.

00:37:07.000 Well, it made me feel very good because obviously I always try to order this show to be very

00:37:11.000 balanced, give both sides equal weight because that's what we do here.

00:37:14.960 We, I will say, we are at least more serious journalists at the panel of deplorables than CNN or

00:37:20.600 the New York Times or the Washington Post.

00:37:22.240 So maybe that'll get me just like 2,000 years in purgatory instead of, you know, going straight

00:37:26.940 to hell. 0.85

00:37:27.160 What about all those cigars?

00:37:27.960 Like how does the Catholic Church's stance on?

00:37:30.200 Well, the body is a temple and the temple needs incense.

00:37:32.080 G.K.

00:37:32.640 Chesterton said the Catholic Church is a thick steak.

00:37:35.260 It's like a thick steak, a glass of red wine and a good cigar.

00:37:38.220 And I believe him.

00:37:39.340 And, you know, even if the Pope doesn't watch the Michael Knowles show, perhaps he does.

00:37:43.400 But even if he doesn't, you know, the Pope is only infallible when he isn't fallible.

00:37:48.240 That's not all the time.

00:37:48.960 So who knows if he's speaking ex-cathedra?

00:37:51.560 I don't think so.

00:37:52.420 Let's move on to senators who are now calling on Al Franken not to resign.

00:37:58.060 That's so funny.

00:37:58.940 Who could have predicted this?

00:38:00.060 Oh, me.

00:38:00.740 Joe Manchin, Pat Leahy, both think he should not have resigned.

00:38:04.540 Manchin said what they did to Al was atrocious, the Democrats.

00:38:08.320 They groped him during photo ops.

00:38:09.800 No, that's not what he said.

00:38:10.580 He said, I hope they have enough guts and enough conscience and enough heart to say, Al,

00:38:14.600 we made a mistake asking you prematurely to leave.

00:38:19.120 You're good enough.

00:38:19.880 You're smart enough. 0.97

00:38:20.580 And gosh darn are people like you. 0.94

00:38:21.780 He presumably added later. 0.99

00:38:23.540 Pat Leahy added, I think we acted prematurely before we had all the facts.

00:38:27.520 Amber Phillips writes today in the Washington Post, could Al Franken unresign?

00:38:32.320 Sure.

00:38:32.780 Of course he could because he hasn't resigned yet.

00:38:34.340 I knew it.

00:38:35.120 I told you when it happened.

00:38:36.540 I knew it when I heard this clip.

00:38:38.400 Today, I am announcing that in the coming weeks, I will be resigning as a member of the United

00:38:46.840 States Senate.

00:38:49.000 You know, I am announcing to you at some point, something will change.

00:38:54.980 At some point.

00:38:55.760 Brave, bold statement.

00:38:57.160 At some point, Ben Shapiro is going to finally fire you.

00:38:59.140 Is that?

00:38:59.460 Yeah.

00:39:00.860 That's like 100% true.

00:39:02.800 The question is when, you know.

00:39:04.440 So, Alicia, was the fix in this whole time?

00:39:08.740 Was this always a fake resignation?

00:39:10.720 I think the fix was in.

00:39:12.480 And I think that it all had to do with Alabama.

00:39:15.020 That they wanted to set it up as they were holier than thou.

00:39:17.800 They were the righteous people.

00:39:18.920 They're the ones who stand for women and all that jazz that they like to tout all the time.

00:39:23.380 But now that their guy won in Alabama, they're going to be like, dang it, the GOP, the voters 0.90

00:39:29.740 in Alabama didn't fall for our racist, southern, bigoted, you know, pro-child molester vote 0.63

00:39:35.360 thing.

00:39:35.820 And so now we have to make sure that we can maintain this vote in the Senate and keep good

00:39:39.500 old Al in here.

00:39:40.300 I'm really disappointed.

00:39:41.380 I mean, I know that Manchin has a D after his name, but on some things he votes pretty,

00:39:45.420 you know, more independently than the Democratic Party.

00:39:48.880 He could be doing it to save his own seat.

00:39:50.700 But I'm really disappointed in him for this.

00:39:53.140 I thought that he was potentially a better human being than that.

00:39:55.740 Well, you know, Andrew Klavan does describe these guys accurately as the varsity politicians,

00:40:02.240 right?

00:40:02.420 This is the all-star league of politicians.

00:40:05.720 And so Joe Manchin's good on gun control.

00:40:07.900 Why is he good on gun control?

00:40:08.960 Because he's from West Virginia.

00:40:09.980 If he lived in New York, he might have a different position on gun control.

00:40:13.280 He'd be more Schumer-like, yeah.

00:40:14.220 Right.

00:40:14.580 They're very good at being politicians.

00:40:17.760 And that's what you're seeing here from Joe Manchin.

00:40:20.040 I mean, he's better than Nancy Pelosi, certainly.

00:40:22.820 But then again, Nancy Pelosi doesn't live in West Virginia. 0.99

00:40:24.800 Amanda, what should Republicans be hoping for here with Al Franken?

00:40:29.980 Should we be encouraging him to resign and setting this precedent that if anyone accuses

00:40:36.060 you years later of getting a little handsy with no real possible evidence that you can

00:40:43.460 just resign?

00:40:44.400 Obviously, there was that photo of him getting weird at the USO tour.

00:40:48.120 But a lot of these allegations are totally unverifiable.

00:40:51.180 They're saying, well, he slipped a hand and was never on camera and yada, yada, yada.

00:40:55.100 Should we be hoping for that?

00:40:56.600 Or do we want Franken to stay so that we can hang it around Democrats' necks?

00:41:00.320 Well, not to hang it around their necks.

00:41:04.740 But I don't think he should go because I don't think, like you said, none of these allegations

00:41:08.740 were fully proven.

00:41:10.380 I know there was that picture.

00:41:11.920 But if you look at the—I'm not going to sit here and defend Al Franken.

00:41:16.740 That picture was gross.

00:41:17.880 He was sleeping.

00:41:18.620 I'm not going to defend that.

00:41:19.540 But a lot of these other allegations were not—he denied them, and they weren't proved.

00:41:25.320 I mean, so again, we have to be really careful to just take an accusation and then ruin someone's

00:41:30.460 life or ruin someone's career.

00:41:32.060 Like I said before, we've seen this on college campuses, and it's really, really bad stuff.

00:41:35.860 So let's think of due process and not just crush anyone who has an allegation, especially

00:41:41.440 when it's 20 or 40 years ago, like we saw before.

00:41:44.940 And then also one other point is that—so I think with Al Franken, they were just, you

00:41:52.200 know, having him hang on there, and they were going to see, like as you said, Michael, that

00:41:55.420 they were going to—if we're more one, you know, they could probably find a way to get

00:42:00.160 him back in there.

00:42:00.920 But also, I think it's they're realizing—it's taken them so long—that this whole thing was

00:42:06.480 set up to go after Trump.

00:42:08.100 Like they are re-bringing up these allegations against President Trump that we all heard during

00:42:14.400 the election.

00:42:15.340 This has already been litigated.

00:42:17.220 This has already been litigated.

00:42:18.140 And like they had Megyn Kelly last week, you know, trying to re-litigate this.

00:42:21.420 She had all these accusers on. 0.97

00:42:22.760 Nobody cared.

00:42:23.640 Nobody watched.

00:42:24.300 We already knew this.

00:42:25.320 It is old news, yeah.

00:42:27.460 Yeah, and then we had more information about Lisa Bloom, that attorney, and she apparently

00:42:31.020 was procuring money for women who were coming forward and saying that President Trump accused

00:42:35.860 them of sexual assault or sexual harassment.

00:42:38.340 That's troublesome.

00:42:39.260 We already knew it, but there it is in a report from The Hill, and that's The Hill.

00:42:42.700 That's not from, you know, some right-wing site.

00:42:44.940 How much is she offering?

00:42:46.060 Because, you know, the blank book money is kind of running out, and I can't talk.

00:42:49.980 I can say a lot of things.

00:42:51.340 I have the best words, folks.

00:42:53.040 No, you're—

00:42:53.360 See if you can get in there.

00:42:54.240 You're absolutely right.

00:42:55.400 There is this mania.

00:42:56.580 There is this hysteria that's going on where if someone's career and life can be ruined

00:43:01.800 because someone said something happened 40 years ago, clearly we've reached a point beyond

00:43:07.720 justice.

00:43:08.400 We've reached a point beyond due process.

00:43:10.660 But there's another consideration for why we should keep Franken, which is that it's

00:43:13.840 totally cost-free for Democrats to bump him.

00:43:16.480 It actually helps them because there's a Democrat governor of Minnesota.

00:43:21.000 A Democrat will likely replace him even at the next election.

00:43:24.100 So it doesn't really matter.

00:43:26.740 Whereas Al Franken now is damaged goods.

00:43:28.680 Keep him in there.

00:43:29.320 That is absolutely fine.

00:43:30.400 I'm not going to let Democrats get a free pass when it doesn't matter.

00:43:34.060 Give me Bob Menendez.

00:43:35.320 Then we'll talk.

00:43:36.160 Give me Menendez.

00:43:37.500 Okay.

00:43:37.940 Ladies, thank you for being here. 0.98

00:43:39.200 From The Daily Wire, Amanda Presta-Giacomo, Alicia Krauss.

00:43:42.400 That is our whole show today.

00:43:44.760 I am Michael Knowles.

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Ep. 76 - The Best Words： Trump vs. PC at the CDC

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