The Michael Knowles Show - May 11, 2021


Ep. 761 - Gomorrah-By-The-Sea Goes Down In Flames


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California is shrinking. What does that mean for the Golden State? And why is it so bad? Today's After Show Was Hosted By: Michael Knowles, Alex Blumberg, and Sarah Abdurrahman

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00:00:37.760 California is shrinking.
00:00:39.800 California has grown consistently since the gold rush, since 1850.
00:00:48.040 And last year, for the first time ever, California shrunk.
00:00:52.920 More people left California than came into California, born in California.
00:00:59.080 So, if the population is shrinking here, I am actually part of that diaspora of people fleeing.
00:01:06.060 What does that mean for the Golden State?
00:01:08.820 It means that they are in big trouble.
00:01:10.400 Gamora by the Sea is going down in flames.
00:01:13.360 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:01:14.060 This is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:14.880 Welcome back to the show.
00:01:24.000 My favorite comment yesterday from Larry, who says,
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00:01:35.660 That's very kind, Larry.
00:01:38.360 Larry, but the problem with your comment is you didn't tell me how to pronounce it in the comment.
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00:01:57.140 Otherwise, you're going to have to add another comment.
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00:03:05.740 California's population fell by more than 182,000 last year.
00:03:10.640 And we here at the Daily Wire account for about, I don't know, 120 of them.
00:03:15.480 Not 120,000, but 120 people.
00:03:17.640 Because we're out, you know, just like Rogan is out, just like Elon Musk is out, just like
00:03:22.440 everybody's out.
00:03:23.060 But everybody is fleeing Cali because the weather's still great, but everything else
00:03:29.180 is going, going down.
00:03:31.040 You've got crime through the roof.
00:03:33.360 You've got homelessness through the roof.
00:03:34.920 Even though the mayor of LA, for instance, passed a gigantic bond a few years ago to take
00:03:39.920 care of homelessness.
00:03:40.520 What happened?
00:03:41.140 It got worse and worse and worse.
00:03:42.660 You've got shops boarded up.
00:03:44.040 You've got the most draconian lockdowns in, in the country and you've got confiscatory taxes.
00:03:48.960 So yeah, you're gone.
00:03:50.140 There's only so far you can push us, California, before we're out.
00:03:53.340 I was on my friend Alex Michelson's show on Fox in LA just a couple of weeks ago.
00:03:57.980 And I pointed out, I said, California is shrinking.
00:03:59.680 He said, hey, hey, hey, Michael, look, California is still growing.
00:04:02.760 It's just that the rate of growth has decreased.
00:04:04.600 And I let him have it.
00:04:05.660 I said, I don't know, maybe he knows something that I don't know.
00:04:07.580 But I thought, you know, maybe immigration, for instance, is, is taking off at a higher rate
00:04:12.340 than I was expecting.
00:04:13.980 But turns out I was completely right.
00:04:15.640 California actually is shrinking.
00:04:17.840 And I wonder why.
00:04:19.300 I wonder why.
00:04:20.060 I see headlines like this about the Los Angeles district attorney, George Gascon, one of the
00:04:26.160 most, if not the most radical prosecutor in the United States.
00:04:31.320 He's a prosecutor, but his whole aim is to let criminals off the hook.
00:04:36.260 So a couple of criminals he left off the hook are a couple that killed and tortured a 10-year-old
00:04:42.760 boy.
00:04:43.820 And the 10-year-old boy was the son of the mother killer.
00:04:48.020 This is as heinous as it possibly gets.
00:04:51.060 There is no doubt that these people should face capital punishment.
00:04:55.100 It would be a mercy to them.
00:04:56.220 It would be good for society.
00:04:57.380 It would more directly satisfy justice.
00:05:01.840 And it would be a mercy to them because one hopes they could face the reality of the moral
00:05:07.180 order and get their act together.
00:05:09.060 It would be rehabilitative for them.
00:05:10.580 Heather Maxine Barron, 31, and her boyfriend, Kareem Ernesto Leyva, 35, charged in the 2018
00:05:18.800 death of Anthony Avalos, Barron's son.
00:05:21.420 Because the death penalty is on the table, they could now face a maximum of life in prison
00:05:28.320 without the possibility of parole if they are convicted.
00:05:32.420 Is that justice?
00:05:34.060 You know, when you hear about the criminal justice reformers and, you know, our incarceration
00:05:38.640 system is modern day slavery and it's so unjust and we need to spring the criminals out of the
00:05:44.800 clink.
00:05:45.100 By the way, there are Republicans who have adopted this ridiculous talking point.
00:05:48.840 Frankly, it infected the Trump administration to some degree.
00:05:52.500 And you know how much I love Trump, but even he caved into a little bit of this let the
00:05:57.140 criminals out of jail mania.
00:06:00.400 When you hear about that and then you hear that these psychopaths, Heather Barron and her 1.00
00:06:07.240 boyfriend, Kareem Leyva, killed this woman's and tortured this woman's 10-year-old son.
00:06:11.840 Does that make you want to spring criminals from the clink?
00:06:14.760 No, it makes you want to ratchet up the punishments.
00:06:16.740 Not even for revenge, right?
00:06:19.060 I don't even, I don't even know these people, but for justice because we know it's an injustice
00:06:24.660 if these people get off the hook.
00:06:27.480 LA's DA, George Gascon says, no, we need to think of poor Heather Barron and poor Kareem
00:06:32.640 Leyva.
00:06:33.060 You know, society made them kill and torture her 10-year-old son.
00:06:37.660 It was, it was someone else's fault.
00:06:39.260 It wasn't their fault.
00:06:40.040 It would be wrong to punish them.
00:06:41.700 No wonder California is shrinking.
00:06:45.420 You know, that new Salini over there, the Patrick Bateman, American psycho governor that 0.81
00:06:50.500 they've got in that state, he is facing a recall.
00:06:53.580 And the recall is a little bit ridiculous because there are some ordinary candidates.
00:06:57.860 I'm thinking of Kevin Falconer, former mayor of, of San Diego.
00:07:01.500 I'm thinking of John Cox, who, who's run before.
00:07:04.640 And Caitlyn Jenner, formerly Bruce, greatest athlete in the world, you know, very impressive
00:07:11.500 fella, all running.
00:07:13.440 And you think this is kind of a clown show now.
00:07:16.120 This is turning into a reality TV circus and Newsom may well survive.
00:07:19.500 Well, Newsom seems at least a little bit nervous because Gavin Newsom totally failed governor.
00:07:26.260 One of the two worst in the country on COVID and otherwise incompetent when we're not talking
00:07:32.660 about crisis situations, he is announcing the largest tax rebate in American history.
00:07:40.140 Now consider this, one of the reasons that the Daily Wire and others, you know, Rogan or
00:07:46.400 Musk or whoever left California is because the taxes are so ridiculous.
00:07:51.660 Taxes, state tax already 13%, then they're going to raise it to 16%.
00:07:56.500 That's crazy.
00:07:57.680 16% versus you move to Tennessee, there's zero state income tax.
00:08:02.660 That's a no brainer.
00:08:04.260 I think you can only push me so far, folks.
00:08:06.000 But now Newsom completely changing his tune, saying he wants the largest tax rebate in American
00:08:10.560 history.
00:08:11.380 According to the LA Times, the proposal to deliver $8 billion in new cash payments to millions
00:08:17.140 of Californians is part of a $100 billion economic stimulus plan made possible in part
00:08:22.620 by a budget that's faced a windfall of tax revenues.
00:08:26.260 Windfall of tax revenues, yeah, because he jacked taxes up on everybody.
00:08:29.660 So now he's got everybody's money and he's going to give a little bit back to them.
00:08:33.480 Newsom's also proposing a $5 billion plan to double rental assistance to get 100% of back
00:08:40.260 rent paid for those who have fallen behind, along with as much as $2 billion in direct
00:08:45.000 payments to pay down utility bills that are overdue.
00:08:47.320 So what does this mean?
00:08:47.940 This means that Gavin Newsom knows that he's in trouble, knows that his policies have failed,
00:08:52.580 and so he's trying to reverse them in the short term to survive the recall.
00:08:55.820 So he's saying, yeah, you know what we're going to do?
00:08:58.320 We're going to give away all the money to people.
00:09:00.460 All the money we took from people, we're going to give some of it away so that you forget
00:09:04.500 what a terrible governor I am.
00:09:06.420 What's shocking to me is not that Democrats would buy votes, they've been doing it for
00:09:09.500 a long time, and Republicans try to buy votes occasionally too, though not nearly enough
00:09:13.760 because Democrats are cleaning their clock in that department. 0.55
00:09:17.660 But what's so surprising to me is even in this insane race where you've got candidates
00:09:22.740 who are not polling that well, Falconer and Cox and even Jenner, and Jenner is such an
00:09:28.260 eccentric personality who probably would not be able to win, even in that race, Newsom
00:09:34.020 is afraid.
00:09:35.360 Newsom is worried about the possibility of losing his job because it reminds us of something
00:09:39.980 that is an eternal truth in politics.
00:09:43.840 Never say never.
00:09:44.720 Never say never.
00:09:46.920 Remember, do you remember 2015, Donald Trump is running for president, comes down the escalator
00:09:51.180 and the gold and the Mexicans are rapists and all this sort of thing, and people say
00:09:55.280 there is no way, this guy's not going to win nothing.
00:09:58.860 Never Trump.
00:10:00.280 Never Trump.
00:10:01.340 And then what did we have?
00:10:03.000 We had never say never Trump and never say never because the guy got elected.
00:10:07.740 Could this happen with Caitlyn Jenner?
00:10:09.960 Could this happen with someone else, even, you know, Cox or, or, or Falconer?
00:10:15.800 I suppose it could.
00:10:16.960 Newsom knows that too.
00:10:17.700 Is it likely?
00:10:18.300 Probably not.
00:10:18.920 But could it happen?
00:10:19.800 Absolutely.
00:10:21.640 So this is why the left is now training their sights on Caitlyn.
00:10:25.720 Sarah Silverman, the comedian, is, is furious at Caitlyn Jenner because she says that he is
00:10:32.320 transphobic with the issue of trans sports.
00:10:34.860 What does Caitlyn Jenner, well-known decathlete and guy on the Wheaties box and guy who now
00:10:40.640 dresses up like a woman, what does he know about transvestitism and athletics? 0.96
00:10:45.560 He doesn't know anything.
00:10:46.840 So Sarah Silverman decides to educate him.
00:10:49.960 I saw Caitlyn Jenner saying trans girls should not play girls sports. 1.00
00:10:55.920 Caitlyn, you're a woman, right?
00:10:59.540 A trans girl is a girl. 0.61
00:11:01.740 She should have the same rights as cis girls.
00:11:08.900 If you think a trans girl, what you think a trans girl is too strong? 0.91
00:11:14.380 Yes.
00:11:15.300 What about tall girls as opposed to short girls? 0.99
00:11:19.100 What about boys in high school who are teeny tiny and their teammates have already hit puberty
00:11:24.800 and are shaving?
00:11:26.680 Why don't you just have co-ed sports divided by weight or height? 0.94
00:11:30.020 Yeah, that's the difference.
00:11:31.520 This is so dumb.
00:11:33.000 They are legislating this shit without one single example of how this plays out.
00:11:41.120 This is not worrying about girls sports.
00:11:44.560 Believe me.
00:11:46.120 I think there are better ways to worry about girls sports. 1.00
00:11:52.060 This is not worrying about, this is not what that is.
00:11:54.300 This is not worrying.
00:11:55.220 This is not concern for girls sports.
00:11:57.180 It's transphobia, full stop.
00:11:59.020 Okay, virtually everything Sarah Silverman just said is wrong and is demonstrably false.
00:12:06.680 There's no example of this sports issue being a problem for girls. 1.00
00:12:10.060 Yes, there is.
00:12:10.540 There's a very famous case working its way up the courts right now,
00:12:13.560 represented by the Alliance Defending Freedom,
00:12:15.440 because guess what happens when the boys play in the girls sports?
00:12:17.840 The boys virtually every time win.
00:12:20.580 So there certainly is a case.
00:12:22.180 Trans women are women. 0.90
00:12:23.280 No, they're not.
00:12:23.900 Caitlyn Jenner, you're a woman.
00:12:25.040 No, she's not.
00:12:25.620 Trans women should have the same rights as women. 0.82
00:12:27.780 Well, they have equality under the law, but men and women are different, so they're treated 0.98
00:12:31.160 differently.
00:12:31.700 Okay.
00:12:32.820 But she does say something that is useful and true.
00:12:38.360 She says, this is not about girls sports.
00:12:41.340 And she's totally right.
00:12:42.820 This is not about girls sports.
00:12:44.220 I don't care about girls sports. 1.00
00:12:46.120 I've never watched girls sports.
00:12:47.940 Maybe if the Olympics is on in the background, I guess I have seen some girls sport. 1.00
00:12:52.980 Otherwise, I have never watched.
00:12:55.220 I've very rarely watched men's sports.
00:12:57.320 I have not watched women's sports.
00:12:59.640 I care in the sense that it's so unfair that these girls who run in track to try to get scholarships 0.99
00:13:05.040 and awards lose them and don't get the scholarships and don't get the awards because some dude is
00:13:09.820 faster and bigger and stronger.
00:13:11.420 But generally speaking, I don't care about girls sports. 1.00
00:13:14.360 What I care about is human nature.
00:13:16.200 What I care about is the relationship of my society and my politics to reality because
00:13:22.020 the left wants to divorce those things from reality.
00:13:24.620 And I am pleading.
00:13:26.360 I'm, I'm clawing with my fingernails.
00:13:28.440 I'm saying, no, let's stick a little bit almost on reality.
00:13:31.500 No.
00:13:31.840 And then we fall off of the abyss, just like California is about to fall off of the United
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00:14:46.860 Sarah Silverman says this issue of distinguishing between men and women and not letting the men
00:14:53.960 play in the girls' sports, even if they wear a dress, and not letting the men go into the 0.87
00:14:57.240 girls' bathroom, even if they're wearing a dress. 1.00
00:14:59.280 It's not about the girls' sports.
00:15:01.720 You're right.
00:15:02.260 It's not.
00:15:03.400 It's totally not.
00:15:04.340 It's about reality.
00:15:07.400 The reason that I can't call Caitlyn Jenner her, the reason that I can barely call him
00:15:13.940 Caitlyn, I'm sort of going back and forth on this.
00:15:15.660 Should I just call him Bruce?
00:15:16.640 Caitlyn is a woman's name.
00:15:17.680 It's not a man's name.
00:15:18.720 So if we call Caitlyn Caitlyn, aren't we in a much lesser degree than with the pronouns,
00:15:23.680 but to some degree, aren't we mainstreaming this?
00:15:26.140 I don't know.
00:15:26.480 I'm going back.
00:15:26.900 Perhaps I'll go back and forth on the, on the names today.
00:15:29.880 But if we call Caitlyn or Bruce her, my issue is not about politeness.
00:15:37.920 I don't think it's polite to lie to people.
00:15:40.380 So I don't, I don't, on that front, I don't think it's necessarily polite to call him her,
00:15:44.420 but it's not about the sports.
00:15:46.780 It's not about the way he looks.
00:15:49.000 It's not about the way he talks.
00:15:51.380 It is a little bit about his immigration policy, but that's a separate issue.
00:15:55.720 It's just about the reality of it.
00:15:58.940 I just, I won't lie about something that fundamental.
00:16:05.180 Okay.
00:16:05.960 I get it.
00:16:07.000 Politics, there's a lot of scummy people saying a lot of things that are only slightly true
00:16:11.980 or not true at all.
00:16:12.920 And there's spinning and there's, there's dishonesty.
00:16:14.960 And I, I know that that's true in politics.
00:16:16.740 I expect that of my politicians.
00:16:19.700 But you can't tell me that a man is a woman and you can't make me say that.
00:16:24.080 I just won't do it.
00:16:25.880 It's about much more to that than that.
00:16:28.120 There is much, much more to lose.
00:16:32.080 Gender dysphoria is not the only body dysmorphic issue that we have going on.
00:16:35.840 This gets to not just Bruce Jenner's psychological struggles.
00:16:41.260 This gets not just to the social contagion where we erase the distinction between men and women.
00:16:47.320 This gets to a fundamental misunderstanding of our relationship to the physical world.
00:16:54.540 That's actually what it comes down to.
00:16:55.700 And so put the gender issue aside for a second.
00:16:57.760 There was a story that just came out about the plus sized model, Tess Holliday, which is 0.73
00:17:03.280 plus size model is a euphemism for someone who is obese, but models clothing.
00:17:08.580 Okay.
00:17:09.400 And I guess she goes, actually goes by the term fat activist. 1.00
00:17:13.960 Tess Holliday revealed last week that she has anorexia and is in recovery for anorexia.
00:17:19.180 So morbidly obese woman has anorexia. 1.00
00:17:25.840 I'm in anorexia and I'm in recovery, says Holliday on Twitter.
00:17:29.240 I'm not ashamed to say it out loud anymore.
00:17:31.480 I'm the result of a culture that celebrates thinness and equates that to worth.
00:17:36.640 But I get to write my own narrative now.
00:17:39.100 I'm finally able to care for a body that I've punished my entire life and I'm finally free.
00:17:42.820 Okay, where to begin?
00:17:46.540 I think there are two discrete issues here.
00:17:50.100 I'm going to, obviously there's the absurdity that a fat person has anorexia.
00:17:54.300 That's the first thing.
00:17:55.240 But I actually don't think it's totally absurd.
00:17:57.580 You can suffer from any number of psychological problems, even if your body doesn't match those
00:18:02.320 psychological problems.
00:18:03.760 This is the definition of body dysmorphia, right?
00:18:07.000 Is that your body doesn't match the issue.
00:18:08.640 So an anorexic is a thin person who thinks that he or she is fat.
00:18:14.680 This woman is an obese person who thinks that she is too thin, I guess. 1.00
00:18:24.020 Who thinks that she is too fat or something, right? 1.00
00:18:28.240 It's just, it's sort of one more layer of dysmorphia.
00:18:30.640 But I actually don't think that it's impossible.
00:18:32.560 I don't think it's any more absurd than any other body dysmorphia.
00:18:36.580 So there's that issue.
00:18:37.700 And then there is the issue of multiple types of dysmorphia.
00:18:42.280 So what I mean by this is, the first cultural issue I see with the fat activist saying she's
00:18:49.560 anorexic is that she's basically saying, I identify as a very thin person.
00:18:56.540 I'm a very large person, but I identify as a very thin person.
00:18:59.740 So she might say, I have anorexia.
00:19:01.760 But the psychological condition that she says she has is not enfleshed in any way.
00:19:07.000 It's not enacted.
00:19:07.960 We live in this time right now.
00:19:09.580 It's a very Gnostic time where we think that all that matters is what's going on in our heads. 0.99
00:19:13.820 And it doesn't matter what we do.
00:19:15.660 And it doesn't matter what our bodies look like.
00:19:17.860 And it doesn't matter what the physical world says.
00:19:19.860 If it's floating around in my head, that's fine.
00:19:22.340 This actually gets to one of the issues with political correctness.
00:19:25.240 Political correctness replaces moral codes, old moral codes with speech codes so that it replaces the idea of how we interact in a moral way from what you do to what you say.
00:19:40.060 There are many things that political correctness does, all of which I discuss in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, which is available now, by the way, for pre-order.
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00:19:56.480 In the old order, it's, you know, I might have the best of intentions, but if I do something unjust, if I commit a sin, then that's what matters.
00:20:07.700 The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but ultimately, talk is cheap.
00:20:12.960 You know, it really depends on what you do.
00:20:14.820 But in this culture, it's all just about what we think.
00:20:17.360 It's all about what we say.
00:20:18.180 It's all that floats around.
00:20:19.300 So, okay, that's the first big problem.
00:20:20.820 Then the other big problem is maybe this woman is, she's got anorexia. 1.00
00:20:24.560 Okay, I grant it.
00:20:25.380 But she has another body problem, though. 0.99
00:20:29.180 It's not just that she thinks she's too fat, even though she's too thin or something.
00:20:34.160 She's got, obviously, some issues there. 0.99
00:20:36.340 It's that she overeats. 0.78
00:20:38.980 What she's saying is this culture values thinness.
00:20:42.720 No, no, no.
00:20:43.020 This culture exalts fatness, too, doesn't it?
00:20:47.440 We have this plethora of plus-sized models.
00:20:49.980 This woman, this woman's career is a testament to that.
00:20:52.280 But we have a culture right now that celebrates unhealthy eating habits, not just in the don't-eat-enough direction, but also in the eat-too-much direction.
00:21:02.340 We not only celebrate starvation.
00:21:03.980 We also celebrate gluttony.
00:21:05.280 But both of those are a problem.
00:21:06.720 It's actually a problem.
00:21:08.000 We all struggle with lots of different problems.
00:21:09.940 But as Chesterton points out, heresy is not the promotion of vice to the exclusion of virtue.
00:21:15.580 It's the promotion of one virtue to the exclusion of all the others.
00:21:18.680 So, yes, you've avoided the terrible sin of starvation, okay, of, you know, which goes into a lot of other issues.
00:21:29.340 But you've now gone into the sin of gluttony.
00:21:31.980 What you really need to do is recognize that both of those are a problem and try to get back there into some sort of moderation, which is a virtue.
00:21:39.680 Speaking of bodily comfort, we have great news coming out of the United Kingdom.
00:21:45.900 As the coronavirus enters its 15th month, 15 days to slow the spread began 15 months to slow the spread.
00:21:54.480 We're now on month 15.
00:21:56.800 Boris Johnson, the prime minister, the putatively conservative prime minister who went totally squish on coronavirus, he's got great news for you.
00:22:04.860 So, pretty soon, you might be able to hug your loved ones.
00:22:10.260 We're taking a step towards that moment when we learn to live responsibly with COVID, when we cease eventually to rely on detailed government edicts and make our own decisions based on the best scientific advice about how to protect our families and those around us.
00:22:29.760 So, from next Monday, we're updating the guidance on close contact between friends and family, setting out the risks for everyone to make their own choices.
00:22:42.360 Wow. Thank you, Boris.
00:22:45.020 Wow. Thank you, conservative prime minister.
00:22:48.100 Here, now, Brits, starting Monday, not today, so, you know, hold off, starting Monday, they can maybe hug their relatives using common sense, using common sense.
00:23:03.080 That's how this was covered.
00:23:04.380 Boris Johnson now permits common sense contact between friends and relatives.
00:23:10.620 Common sense, it would appear, ain't so common anymore.
00:23:14.560 Johnson initially had a really tough, strong approach to the virus, which was, this is bad, but we're going to get through it.
00:23:23.700 We're not going to totally destroy our lives and upend our society.
00:23:26.920 Then he got COVID and he went totally squish.
00:23:30.840 And that's the way it's worked in so many places.
00:23:35.040 When you look into what's going on in Britain, you are in many ways looking into a crystal ball of what's going to come to the United States.
00:23:41.460 Same thing in Canada.
00:23:43.340 When you see what's going on here, going on there, rather, with the total deference to the public health experts, with the massive growth of these government bureaucracies, with the total collapse of that English tradition of liberty.
00:24:00.300 That's probably what's coming here, folks.
00:24:03.100 And we've got to be very much on guard against that.
00:24:05.380 It's not just on the COVID issue.
00:24:06.820 COVID is just a lens through which to recognize the broader political problem because COVID demonstrates the state-established religion of the Anglosphere and the broader West.
00:24:18.040 And that state-established religion is secular progressivism.
00:24:21.380 And the high priests of secular progressivism are the public health experts, public health, because the public is the political part, the health is the scientific part.
00:24:30.380 And they are going to apply, just as all the progressives have done since the dawn of the progressive era, they're going to apply science to our political problems and thereby get rid of any need for political debate.
00:24:42.500 You don't need to have a political opinion anymore.
00:24:44.380 The scientists will tell you what to do.
00:24:46.500 And that is a fundamentally religious point of view, and it is squeezing out the other religions, notably Christianity and notably in the United Kingdom.
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00:26:45.480 The COVID lockdowns in the United Kingdom are just the tip of the iceberg in that country
00:27:03.600 for a broader religious conflict.
00:27:06.140 And you've seen this break out into the open just this week.
00:27:09.760 A pastor in the United Kingdom who was a chaplain at a college there.
00:27:14.540 I think he was a former chaplain at Cambridge University.
00:27:18.040 This chaplain was fired, not only fired, but reported to a terror watch agency of the UK government
00:27:26.880 because he gave a sermon defending the Christian view of sex.
00:27:34.520 Take a listen.
00:27:36.020 It was just so mind-blowing.
00:27:38.680 I was thinking, I'm never going to work again because I've been accused of being a terrorist.
00:27:45.880 This is the sermon I gave in June 2018.
00:27:50.060 But remember that religious belief is just as protected in law as sexual orientation.
00:27:55.360 And no one has the right to discriminate against you or be abusive towards you.
00:28:00.720 When ideologies compete, we should not descend into abuse.
00:28:04.940 We should respect the beliefs of others.
00:28:06.960 The fact that in this day and age, a sermon should be deemed effectively blasphemous by other people.
00:28:15.260 It would just never have occurred to me before this happened
00:28:17.920 that that could be something that would happen in 21st century Britain,
00:28:22.720 which I thought was a liberal, tolerant society.
00:28:26.200 So this guy, obviously a thoughtful guy, you know, obviously a very respectful guy,
00:28:31.080 a very mild-mannered British guy.
00:28:33.300 It reminds me of that scene in European Vacation
00:28:35.460 where Chevy Chase keeps running into the English bicyclist in his car
00:28:40.320 and the bicyclist keeps apologizing to him.
00:28:43.060 He's like, oh, I'm so sorry.
00:28:44.040 Yes, yes.
00:28:44.520 Well, no.
00:28:45.080 Oh, yes.
00:28:45.460 No, it's all right.
00:28:46.060 No, no, no.
00:28:46.540 Just a little scratch.
00:28:47.340 Yes, yeah.
00:28:47.760 You know.
00:28:48.620 So the Brits, very, very nice people.
00:28:50.400 This guy, very genial.
00:28:51.200 And now he's being called a terrorist.
00:28:53.460 But what he doesn't understand is that last line there at the end.
00:28:57.280 He said, I can't believe that in 21st century England,
00:29:02.060 which I thought was a respectful, tolerant, liberal society,
00:29:06.980 I can't believe that my views of Christianity would be called blasphemy.
00:29:12.020 That's because this fellow doesn't seem to understand that liberalism is a jealous God.
00:29:20.320 Liberalism is a very jealous God.
00:29:23.060 And people who practice their religion out in the open,
00:29:29.260 they tend to have a more coherent view of the world.
00:29:32.480 They tend to be more grounded.
00:29:33.920 There's this idea that religious people are very superstitious.
00:29:36.520 No, we're actually the least superstitious people on earth
00:29:39.280 because we know exactly what we think and we're subjecting it to rigor.
00:29:43.100 The people who pretend not to have a religion, they tend to be the kookiest. 1.00
00:29:46.800 They tend to be the most superstitious.
00:29:49.280 They tend to be the most censorious because they're not even aware of what they're doing.
00:29:53.580 Liberalism is a jealous God.
00:29:54.820 Here's what this guy did.
00:29:56.320 He's at Trent College, which, by the way, purports to have a Christian ethos.
00:30:01.140 And he gave this lecture about competing ideologies.
00:30:05.260 He said, look, I'll give you an example.
00:30:07.020 We talked about this competing ideology often.
00:30:08.920 You've got the Christian view of the world where we've got, you know,
00:30:11.200 of human nature where man is body and soul.
00:30:14.080 And you've got the transgender view of human nature, 0.99
00:30:16.480 which is that man is really just his soul and his body is evil
00:30:20.160 when his body doesn't accord with his soul and his body has to be mutilated to better accord with it.
00:30:23.600 Okay, two totally different views.
00:30:25.860 And he says these are competing ideologies and we just have to be respectful of them.
00:30:30.380 Now, he's a little nicer than I am.
00:30:31.880 I don't think that we need to, I think we should be respectful of people,
00:30:34.340 but I don't think we should be respectful of bad ideas.
00:30:36.560 I think this Gnostic idea that my body has nothing to do with my actual identity is ridiculous
00:30:42.580 and we should ignore it and we should say it's not true and not teach it.
00:30:47.580 Because when you put these things on equal ground, you empower very bad ideas.
00:30:52.400 And when you empower these bad ideas, they tend not to be happy to leave it
00:30:57.180 at just a sort of nice liberal tolerance.
00:30:59.080 They want to dominate.
00:31:00.380 Because ideologies make truth claims, right?
00:31:03.820 They say this is the way the world is and anything that does not jive with that,
00:31:09.320 they're going to try to get rid of.
00:31:10.620 So this guy gives his talk.
00:31:13.500 The Trent College here, the allegedly Christian college,
00:31:16.060 invites a group called Educate and Celebrate to make their school more, quote, LGBT friendly.
00:31:23.360 Educate and Celebrate, this nonprofit,
00:31:25.480 declared that the school's mission is to embed gender, gender identity,
00:31:28.320 and sexual orientation into the fabric of your school.
00:31:30.380 So if you do this, if you are a Christian school and you invite this group Educate and Celebrate,
00:31:36.920 what an Orwellian, bizarre, creepy, vague name.
00:31:39.820 If you invite them to your school, they're going to embed gender ideology in your school. 1.00
00:31:43.600 And what that is going, what that decision amounts to is de-Christianizing your school.
00:31:49.540 You used to have a Christian school.
00:31:51.240 Now you have a gender ideology school. 1.00
00:31:53.460 Okay, that's just, if you're going to make that decision as the president of the school,
00:31:56.420 that's what you're going to get.
00:31:58.200 The head of the charity, Dr. Ellie Barnes,
00:32:00.620 says that the purpose of Educate and Celebrate is to, quote,
00:32:03.160 completely smash heteronormativity.
00:32:05.380 That's what we want to do.
00:32:06.040 So that's it.
00:32:06.740 The Christian school invites in this radical group to destroy the Christian vision of the school. 0.62
00:32:13.560 Fair enough.
00:32:14.400 That's the school if they want to do it.
00:32:16.640 You know, the problem here is also that the Church of England has just completely cracked up
00:32:20.820 over the last 50 years or so.
00:32:22.860 I once had a former Anglican who became a Catholic tell me that to join the Church of England now,
00:32:29.520 to become ordained in the Church of England,
00:32:31.480 is not just to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic,
00:32:33.820 it's to actually grab and hold on as the thing goes all the way down to the bottom.
00:32:38.600 And so this poor guy, Reverend Dr. Bernard Randall, asks this question.
00:32:44.540 He says, or rather he makes this point.
00:32:48.420 He says, when ideologies compete, we should respect everybody, okay,
00:32:52.200 but one should no more be required to accept LGBT ideology
00:32:58.580 than you should be told that you're in favor of Brexit or that you must be Muslim.
00:33:02.880 We would object to that, right?
00:33:05.060 I made this point, I think on the show yesterday, I made this point somewhere.
00:33:09.040 I don't know, you may have heard it somewhere, which is if a Muslim comes out and quotes the Quran,
00:33:15.460 then a homosexual or transvestite might rightly object that they are being victimized
00:33:21.660 on the basis of their sexual orientation or gender identity, right?
00:33:26.180 Because the Quran has strong things to say about those sorts of identities and behaviors.
00:33:33.440 But if the transvestite criticizes the Muslim for quoting the Quran, 0.95
00:33:40.240 then the Muslim could complain on the basis of being victimized for his religion.
00:33:45.180 You've got these competing ideologies here.
00:33:49.200 And which, which do we give the, the greater latitude toward?
00:33:55.440 That's the question that people are grappling with right now.
00:33:57.720 And it would, it would appear that the, the answer is on the, the radical sex front.
00:34:02.360 Because what, what happened to this guy is he, he didn't just get fired,
00:34:05.400 but he ends up being reported to a terror watch list that is aimed at protecting youth against radicalization.
00:34:11.400 So right now, apply it to the American context.
00:34:17.200 Drag queen story hour, you know, you've got, you've got radical gender ideologues 1.00
00:34:22.100 indoctrinating your toddlers into how to twerk and how to make little boys look like little girls.
00:34:27.240 That is considered mainstream in the culture.
00:34:31.520 Christianity is considered radical.
00:34:34.020 And there are now government programs in the United Kingdom to watch out for this sort of thing.
00:34:38.500 He ultimately was not permanently listed as a terrorist, but he was reported.
00:34:42.200 It shows you where the perception is among the people there.
00:34:45.980 This is happening in America.
00:34:47.320 It's coming to America. 0.97
00:34:48.460 Mike Pompeo, former secretary of state, just addressed this at Regent University.
00:34:52.860 Today, I want to speak to you about the challenges that are ahead of you as followers of Christ
00:34:59.000 and who you should approach them and overcome them.
00:35:02.100 Our freedoms, particularly our unalienable right of religious freedom,
00:35:06.560 is increasingly under attack from our government, be it local, state, or federal.
00:35:12.860 More and more.
00:35:14.340 More and more, being a good follower of Christ is becoming less synonymous with being a good American.
00:35:20.560 Even though you know the history, the founding of our country is deeply rooted in Judeo-Christian values.
00:35:27.420 It gives new meaning to the theme I was asked to address.
00:35:33.380 In Philippians 4.13, this says,
00:35:35.320 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
00:35:39.920 Each of you, each of you can meet those challenges,
00:35:43.860 but you'll not be able to overcome them without Christ.
00:35:46.880 There's not a chance.
00:35:48.160 I love this.
00:35:49.440 I really love this speech.
00:35:50.780 I'm very glad that Secretary Pompeo gave it.
00:35:53.540 Now, you notice some tensions here because he opens up.
00:35:57.480 When he opened up the speech, I thought,
00:35:58.700 okay, this will be a perfectly fine speech,
00:36:00.260 but it's not going to be, it's not going to knock anybody off their feet.
00:36:03.780 Because he opened up on the issue of religious liberty.
00:36:06.580 Not on what we believe, but just on the freedom to believe stuff.
00:36:12.200 And as I lay out in my upcoming book,
00:36:15.460 Speechless Controlling Words, Controlling Minds,
00:36:16.940 freedom of belief doesn't mean anything for people who don't believe anything.
00:36:20.980 Freedom of speech in the abstract doesn't mean anything for people who don't have anything to say.
00:36:26.040 So the question is, what do we believe?
00:36:27.140 So he opens up on it, we have this freedom of belief, freedom of religion.
00:36:31.940 But then he implies, he doesn't say it explicitly, but he implies,
00:36:35.640 that freedom of religion has limits.
00:36:38.760 Because then he says,
00:36:40.500 less and less each day do we seem to hold to this idea that being a good Christian
00:36:45.320 is synonymous with being a good American.
00:36:47.260 Wow, what an insight in, in, for the vast majority of our country's history.
00:36:54.020 It was a Christian country.
00:36:55.820 It was founded as a Christian country.
00:36:58.080 I know that some people take a line out of context from the Treaty of Tripoli
00:37:01.620 when some American diplomats were trying to convince Muslim pirates
00:37:05.460 not to capture and sell our sailors into bondage.
00:37:08.680 But if you take that ridiculous line out for just a second,
00:37:11.940 and you look at the actual writings of the actual founding fathers
00:37:14.540 and the men who led the country, it's quite clear this is a Christian country.
00:37:17.760 They always, when they point to the Treaty of Tripoli,
00:37:19.660 they say John Adams said that America is not in any way founded on the Christian nation.
00:37:24.220 You say, first of all, John Adams didn't write the Treaty of Tripoli.
00:37:26.580 He affixed his name to it, I suppose.
00:37:28.480 It was actually written by a Jeffersonian Republican.
00:37:30.880 But, but even beyond that,
00:37:32.940 Jefferson said that the morality of America is the morality of Christianity.
00:37:36.200 That's it.
00:37:37.120 And he wrote about it at greater length elsewhere.
00:37:39.340 So anyway, you can read the full arguments for that in my,
00:37:41.700 in my upcoming book, Speechless Controlling Words, Controlling Minds.
00:37:43.860 But, does that count as two?
00:37:45.920 I guess it does.
00:37:46.420 I figured that was an extended plug, but that's fine.
00:37:48.040 I'll take two dings.
00:37:50.260 He says, America always considered itself a Christian country.
00:37:54.840 That's what he's implying.
00:37:55.780 But now, less and less so each day.
00:37:57.880 So, okay, if America always seemed to consider itself a Christian country,
00:38:02.820 if being a good Christian was synonymous with being a good American,
00:38:05.080 then that means that there wasn't total, total religious freedom.
00:38:09.600 In the most radical sense, you didn't have freedom exactly from religion.
00:38:14.780 I'll put it more bluntly.
00:38:18.240 In the Declaration of Independence,
00:38:20.740 the premise of the American Revolution is that we hold these truths to be self-evident,
00:38:25.300 that all men are created equal,
00:38:26.200 and that they're endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
00:38:29.840 And among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:38:31.640 If our country is predicated on the idea that we are endowed by our creator with certain rights,
00:38:41.940 this very Christian idea,
00:38:44.980 then one does not have the liberty to contradict that idea and to be an American.
00:38:51.360 That would be incoherent.
00:38:54.740 One does not have the thought, or rather, as Chesterton says,
00:38:58.840 there is a thought that stops thought, and that's the only thought that ought to be stopped.
00:39:01.280 One does not have the right to the thought that stops thought.
00:39:04.560 It is incoherent to say, I'm an American, and I totally undermine,
00:39:10.560 and I totally dispute all of the things that make America, America.
00:39:15.680 You can't have that and still have a country.
00:39:18.040 John Locke, very famously in the letter concerning toleration,
00:39:22.340 that's the father of liberalism,
00:39:23.360 says we need to tolerate everybody except for atheists. 0.82
00:39:25.780 Just where you get this idea that, yeah, you have quite a lot of latitude
00:39:30.440 in terms of your freedom of religion,
00:39:32.260 but you do not have freedom from religion.
00:39:34.860 And by the way, I'm not even making a prescriptive statement here.
00:39:37.480 I'm not even saying we need to be really tough on atheists.
00:39:39.520 I'm just making a descriptive observation.
00:39:43.260 Everybody's got to serve somebody.
00:39:44.700 Everybody's got some religion.
00:39:45.980 The woke people have a more rigid and fanatical religion
00:39:51.440 than anybody in this country right now.
00:39:53.480 They're just not even aware of it most of the time.
00:39:56.340 And that religion is a jealous God, 0.97
00:39:58.220 and it makes claims they're booting out true religion.
00:40:02.360 In this milieu, in this craziness, in this madness,
00:40:07.180 an MSNBC guest goes on TV and compares the Republican Party to Al-Qaeda.
00:40:13.080 The majority of people in this party,
00:40:15.400 and their elected leadership is siding with the anti-democratic forces within the Republican Party.
00:40:20.760 It's not that it's just a segment of the party.
00:40:23.200 It's now becoming the entire party.
00:40:25.120 I don't think there are enough of people who are willing to stand up
00:40:28.980 to this iteration of the Republican Party to build another party at this point.
00:40:33.560 I mean, for all of the conversation about Liz Cheney or Mitt Romney or Adam Kinzinger,
00:40:38.260 they're the outliers.
00:40:39.700 And it's really something hearing those comments from President George W. Bush.
00:40:43.060 I've been thinking to myself this whole time,
00:40:45.160 you know, Al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, the Taliban,
00:40:49.600 the people who wanted to do harm to our nation and to our way of life and our democracy,
00:40:53.980 they got nothing on what this Republican Party is doing.
00:40:57.900 The idea that a member of their party, of their leadership, whose last name is Cheney,
00:41:03.300 could be purged from their leadership for telling the truth about January 6th,
00:41:08.860 for telling the truth about a violent insurrection that claimed the lies of among a Capitol police officer.
00:41:14.740 The Republican Party, according to this MSNBC guy,
00:41:20.700 is far more of a threat to the America that he envisions than Al-Qaeda.
00:41:29.880 Al-Qaeda ain't got nothing on these guys, he says.
00:41:33.660 Obviously, an outrageous and inflammatory statement.
00:41:37.640 But I'm, and this guy doesn't know anything about anything.
00:41:39.740 And he's, he's pulling the same, the usual tactic of,
00:41:42.060 I, you know, look, I love Liz Cheney.
00:41:44.260 I love George W. Bush.
00:41:45.500 All the Republicans that lose and hate the Republican Party
00:41:47.960 and are now attacking the party and supporting the Democrats,
00:41:50.340 I really support them.
00:41:51.420 I have a strange new respect for them.
00:41:52.920 So he's pulling that thing, whatever.
00:41:54.080 It's a sort of stupid political rhetorical device, but people use it.
00:41:57.640 On his point, though, I want to give it the most charitable read possible.
00:42:02.880 I think he's actually has a little bit of a point.
00:42:05.080 Now, this MSNBC guy believes that the Republican Party is, has,
00:42:16.660 is far more transformative for the country than Al-Qaeda or Osama bin Laden or something like that.
00:42:24.140 He's absolutely right.
00:42:26.400 In this sense, what did Osama bin Laden and the Taliban and the people who launched the attacks on 9-11 do?
00:42:32.540 They killed thousands of innocent Americans. 0.50
00:42:34.900 This was, this was the, the worst, bloodiest, most terrible attack in American history.
00:42:39.900 Yes.
00:42:42.960 It did not succeed at what it attempted, succeeded at killing people,
00:42:48.060 but it did not succeed at the ideological goal of totally changing the direction of the country.
00:42:54.440 Actually, what happened is we just kind of kept up the same policies that we already had.
00:42:58.520 We ratcheted them up a little bit,
00:42:59.960 but the, the liberal internationalism that we saw with George H.W. Bush and that you saw to,
00:43:07.180 to a lesser degree with Bill Clinton and you see with George W. Bush and you see it with,
00:43:11.320 with Obama, that just kind of continued to pace.
00:43:15.160 In fact, we restarted a war that we had already won in the early nineties.
00:43:19.260 We actually just went right back to what we were doing before.
00:43:22.340 Whereas this Republican Party that MSNBC has such a big problem with,
00:43:25.440 this Republican Party is threatening that liberal establishment.
00:43:33.040 The liberal establishment that actually goes back further than George H.W. Bush,
00:43:36.120 you see the kind of seeds of this progressivism in the, during the Cold War, certainly after World War II.
00:43:43.780 And on the domestic front, even going back further than that and Franklin Roosevelt and even all the way back to Woodrow Wilson.
00:43:51.320 This Republican Party right now is questioning that, is actually threatening that.
00:43:57.500 Was there really much of a difference between Bill Clinton and George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush and Barack Obama?
00:44:02.840 There wasn't a huge difference.
00:44:05.400 What there was, was, you know, a little change on the margins.
00:44:10.640 But then Trump comes in and he says, actually, all you guys are wrong on foreign policy.
00:44:14.580 All of you, you all have the same foreign policy and you're all wrong.
00:44:16.920 All you guys are wrong on trade.
00:44:18.760 You all have basically the same trade regime and it's totally wrong.
00:44:21.980 All you guys are wrong on manufacturing.
00:44:24.020 You're outsourcing our money.
00:44:24.740 That's totally wrong.
00:44:25.540 All you guys are wrong on immigration.
00:44:27.300 On some of the most important issues, you guys are totally wrong.
00:44:32.280 So, because of this, the left, you know, they'll say nice things about George Bush or Liz Cheney right now.
00:44:42.060 Because the real threat to them, the real threat to their vision of the country are all those Trumpy type of Republicans.
00:44:49.680 The MSNBC guys using outrageous, disgusting, inflammatory rhetoric.
00:44:53.420 But the point he's making, I think, is actually pretty fair.
00:44:56.640 Joe Biden is the most radical president in American history.
00:44:59.760 I'm not being hyperbolic when I say that.
00:45:01.400 Actually, associates of the president say the same thing.
00:45:04.880 New York Magazine just covered this.
00:45:07.440 So, New York Magazine, a liberal outlet, quoting a liberal person who is close to Joe Biden, says,
00:45:11.900 Sometimes dumb tactics yield desired outcomes.
00:45:15.720 In March, the Associated Press distributed a memo advising reporters to avoid or use caution when using the word crisis.
00:45:22.440 Only one very real possibility is that one, one very real possibility is this strategy works, the person close to the White House added.
00:45:30.780 They may get criticism and think pieces about it, but at his hundred day mark, Biden is the most liberal president we've had.
00:45:36.320 And the public thinks he's a moderate.
00:45:37.720 That's a winning strategy to me.
00:45:39.300 They're willing to accept that you're going to write this piece as long as they know that swing voters in Colorado aren't going to read it.
00:45:45.240 Wow.
00:45:45.680 What a great insight.
00:45:47.780 What a fabulous insight here.
00:45:49.220 And this is something that Ted Cruz pointed out a long time ago on our show, Verdict, which is that Joe Biden talks like good old Uncle Joe and is very kind of lulls you to sleep.
00:46:00.340 And he talks about Scranton taking the Amtrak.
00:46:04.400 But because he doesn't believe anything, because he wakes up in the morning, licks his finger, puts it in the air, figures out which way the wind is blowing.
00:46:10.200 Joe Biden is he's just a weather vane.
00:46:13.840 So he'll if the party is moving very far to the left, then he is going to move very far to the left as well.
00:46:18.440 But he's not he's not going to worry people.
00:46:20.480 I think of, you know, plenty of senior citizens who don't want all this crazy craziness going on right now in our culture.
00:46:28.280 They remember Joe Biden and say, oh, I like Joe.
00:46:30.560 Joe's fine.
00:46:31.600 And so he even says, yeah, OK, you put this in New York magazine.
00:46:34.280 Those rural voters in Colorado, they don't care.
00:46:36.600 They're not going to be reading New York magazine.
00:46:39.540 Radical, radical stuff.
00:46:41.040 So what is the GOP going to do about it?
00:46:42.920 The GOP right now is facing an identity crisis.
00:46:46.800 They've got leadership that does not represent them.
00:46:48.820 You've got Liz Cheney, who's basically just a liberal internationalist of the kind of Bush era. 1.00
00:46:54.920 But, you know, at this point now, she's siding much more with the Democrats than with the Republicans, at least as a matter of jockeying for party power.
00:47:02.880 She might vote with the Republicans on some more issues.
00:47:05.840 But in terms of who's controlling things, she's siding with the Democrats. 0.95
00:47:10.180 So finally, after they defended this woman a month or two ago, finally, the House leader, McCarthy, is coming out against her.
00:47:19.760 He says, just as we serve at the will of our constituents, this leadership team should exist to serve you, not the other way around.
00:47:25.600 It had been my hope that our driving focus would be taking back the House in 2022 and implementing our commitment to America.
00:47:30.740 Despite the mainstream media working overtime against us, I believe we still have a great chance to do so.
00:47:35.780 Unfortunately, each day spent relitigating the past is one day less we have to seize the future.
00:47:41.060 This is no time to take our eye off the ball.
00:47:43.320 If we are to succeed in stopping the radical Democrat agenda from destroying our country, these internal conflicts need to be resolved so as to not detract from the efforts of our collective team.
00:47:52.640 Having heard from so many of you in recent days, it's clear that we need to make a change.
00:47:56.700 As such, you should anticipate a vote on recalling the conference chair this Wednesday.
00:48:01.740 Good. Glad to hear it.
00:48:03.980 Great stuff.
00:48:06.820 Now, unfortunately, they want to replace her with Elise Stefanik, who is this more liberal member of the GOP. 0.68
00:48:13.920 That's no, we don't, we don't support that.
00:48:15.540 But we do like that at least the GOP is getting serious about taking out people who do not support the party.
00:48:20.240 So what kind of Republicans should we be looking at?
00:48:23.860 Well, here are the types.
00:48:26.220 Obviously, this guy's not in the House of Representatives, but here are the types.
00:48:28.740 Republican Wyoming Governor Mark Gordon, who just on Friday issued a directive to block state agencies from establishing the use of vaccine passports, which some states are soon going to require for residents.
00:48:39.600 Very good.
00:48:40.260 It doesn't go far enough.
00:48:41.360 As far as I can tell, this doesn't ban private businesses from requiring them.
00:48:44.620 The government should go in.
00:48:45.800 This is a good use of government power.
00:48:47.400 The government needs to go in and ban businesses, add more regulation to grow the size and scope of the government to ban businesses from forcing people to show the stupid vaccine passport when they go to try to get a beer at the pub.
00:49:02.300 Ron DeSantis has done an excellent job at this in Florida.
00:49:05.820 Ron DeSantis is kind of the leader among the Republican governors.
00:49:08.720 To contrast with that, you have the Excelsior Pass in New York, which will use secure technology.
00:49:14.380 Yeah, because we've seen how secure the technology is.
00:49:16.180 We've seen how the big tech overlords, they totally have our best interests at heart, to prove that a state resident has been vaccinated against COVID-19.
00:49:23.580 Now, this also gives the option to show they've had a negative test, but obviously the push here is for the vaccines.
00:49:31.420 One in five Americans do not want to get the vaccine.
00:49:36.220 One in five Americans don't want to get the vaccine.
00:49:38.560 Now, initial estimates for herd immunity against COVID-19, according to reports, were to set that number around 40 to 50 percent.
00:49:44.880 Dr. Fauci now says that immunization has to be over 80 percent.
00:49:49.940 But one in five Americans, according to a recent survey from The Economist and YouGov, don't want to get the vaccine.
00:49:57.900 Nearly 70 percent said they're cool with it.
00:49:59.900 18 percent said they won't be getting the shots.
00:50:01.600 And of the people who aren't getting the shots, when asked if they could be persuaded to get the vaccine, 79 percent said no.
00:50:08.980 I totally get it.
00:50:10.640 I totally get why not.
00:50:12.900 I guess the category that I'm in is I don't intend to get the vaccine.
00:50:17.420 Could I be persuaded?
00:50:18.620 I guess so.
00:50:19.560 I've got an open mind.
00:50:21.060 But I don't intend to get it.
00:50:23.620 And if we're already going to get 80 percent, then it sounds like we're good, doesn't it?
00:50:28.520 And if the public health officials have squandered all of their credibility, then I guess there's no reason to pay any attention to them.
00:50:41.260 I get it.
00:50:42.340 Look, I get we need experts.
00:50:44.220 We need the doctors to tell us about it.
00:50:46.100 I'm not even against vaccines generally.
00:50:48.380 But if people have squandered their credibility, if they have misled on multiple occasions, if the things that they have predicted have not come true, then it's going to raise a question in people's minds.
00:50:58.060 And you're going to hear for quite a while now, you're going to hear people say that this 80 percent, you know, that this 20 percent rather that don't want to get vaccinated, they're terrible, they're stupid, they're anti-vaxxers, they're dumb, they're endangering the public health.
00:51:13.620 But those people have every reason, every justification to be very skeptical of these public health experts, who, by the way, even by these numbers, will achieve the degree of immunity that they set out to achieve.
00:51:30.160 And by the early estimates, they're actually going to get more immunity than that.
00:51:33.140 So why the push?
00:51:34.300 Why the push for the vaccine passports and the insistence and the shaming and the ostracism?
00:51:39.220 It is about the imposition of this political will.
00:51:44.340 And if we want to fight back, it's not enough even just to have the ideas floating around in our heads.
00:51:48.200 We have to enact it.
00:51:49.280 We have to push for it.
00:51:50.180 We have to offer a substantive vision of politics and then have the courage to actually enforce that and not just say you do you whatever you want to actually enforce our vision of politics.
00:52:01.660 Lest we all become like Gamora by the sea.
00:52:05.060 Lest we all go like California and all go down together.
00:52:07.980 Hope we don't. I'm Michael Knowles.
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