The Michael Knowles Show

00:00:00.000 New studies are in. New science has emerged on the coronavirus. Here's the latest.

00:00:07.780 The virus very likely started in the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the lab in China.

00:00:13.860 China may have unleashed the virus intentionally, may not have been an accident.

00:00:19.380 People who had the virus very likely don't need the vaccine because they are very likely immune

00:00:24.560 for life. And the masks very likely did absolutely nothing. In other words, your uneducated conservative

00:00:33.260 uncle, who doesn't have very many degrees, but he's got a lot of common sense, was right about

00:00:39.080 everything, very likely. And the genius experts in big tech, in the media, in the scientific

00:00:46.520 establishment with lots of fancy degrees and very serious lab coats were very likely wrong about

00:00:52.840 everything. But hey, at least we just let them shut down the world. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the

00:00:57.980 Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show. Coming to you live from a hotel room in South Dakota.

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00:01:30.180 designed to tickle people? No, but you've hit on the point. When the left criticizes guns for being

00:01:35.620 lethal, they're criticizing guns for doing what guns are supposed to do. But they don't think that

00:01:41.740 guns should exist at all. And they don't, certainly don't think we should have them. So they say,

00:01:45.660 if we're going to have guns, they better not be lethal. Well, then what's the point of having

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00:03:18.080 checkers not only take me off of the internet, but also bust down my door and arrest my family.

00:03:24.660 Because you know, I mean, we just made four really big claims that contradict basically everything

00:03:31.180 that these geniuses have told us for the past year, the most important aspects of this virus.

00:03:37.440 And yet, turns out, we were right the whole time and the experts were wrong. First one,

00:03:43.380 this claim that the virus did not start in a lab. You remember this? Now, a year ago,

00:03:47.800 more than a year ago now on this show and on Verdict with Ted Cruz, our other show,

00:03:52.220 we pointed out that it seemed like a little too much of a coincidence that the coronavirus that

00:03:59.300 was associated with bats that then became very transmissible to humans just so happened to be

00:04:06.420 discovered in this wet market that was 400 yards away from the Wuhan Institute of Virology where they

00:04:12.840 study bat coronavirus. Isn't that a little, that's a little weird, isn't it? So we said, it seems pretty

00:04:16.760 clear to me that the Institute had something to do with the virus. If you made this claim on Facebook,

00:04:23.680 it would be taken down. You could have penalties on your account for this. This was a debunked

00:04:29.900 conspiracy theory. All the really smart, fancy fact-checking websites shut this down. No way,

00:04:36.120 you kook, you crazy. Oh, wait a second. Now, Joe Biden is ordering an intelligence review of this

00:04:42.080 debunked possibility that it originated in the lab. That's very strange that Joe Biden is doing this

00:04:47.780 because Mike Pompeo, the former Secretary of State under Trump, already had this investigation going.

00:04:52.740 The Trump, the Biden State Department rather, shut down that investigation. But then the evidence

00:04:57.520 became so undeniable. You had researchers in the Wuhan Institute who were, who were becoming infected

00:05:05.160 with this months before we were told the virus broke out into the public. These reports leaked. So now

00:05:10.120 all of a sudden, Biden's got to do an about-face. And now Facebook's got to unban the undebunked claim

00:05:15.780 that it started in the lab. Number two, and this one is really controversial. About a year ago,

00:05:21.260 more than a year ago, we said, you know, China is an evil country. We've got an evil government

00:05:25.940 and they hide lots of things and we know that they work on biological weapons. Maybe this wasn't an

00:05:31.860 accident. And if you made that claim, oh my goodness gracious, you were silenced, you were muzzled.

00:05:37.140 Now, I'm not saying that we know for certain that the virus was released intentionally by the

00:05:43.820 government. I'm not even saying it's likely. I'm just saying it's possible. And it's not just me

00:05:48.160 saying it anymore. It is the White House through the new press, she's not the new press secretary,

00:05:53.780 but she's the deputy press secretary who held the briefing yesterday. She was asked,

00:05:57.140 are you, now that you're changing your story on everything regarding this virus, are you still

00:06:01.200 standing by the claim that we know for certain that China did not release this intentionally?

00:06:05.660 Here's her answer. Another question on COVID. The language that you all use specifically

00:06:11.880 mentioned an accident. Does that mean that you've ruled out or the IC has ruled out that it was

00:06:17.960 deliberate or not an accident? We haven't ruled out anything yet. Again, we're going to go through

00:06:23.620 this, you know, this redoubling down of another, of a 90 day review and we'll have more to share.

00:06:28.920 We haven't ruled out anything yet. That's not true. You guys ruled this out a year ago,

00:06:33.100 more than a year ago. The left, they were out of office mercifully at that time, but through the

00:06:39.620 media, through big tech, through the scientific experts, they totally ruled that out a year ago.

00:06:44.020 So now you're saying we're not, well, we're not, we don't want to rule anything out. That's

00:06:47.160 pretty big change in your story. What would lead you to say that? This woman, I don't have her name.

00:06:53.400 She's filling in for Jen Psaki, whose name I only fairly recently learned, but this woman is a black

00:06:59.020 woman. And the way this was being reported in the press yesterday, I kid you not. They said,

00:07:02.540 so-and-so, again, her name escapes me. So-and-so made history yesterday as the second woman to host

00:07:10.300 a White House press briefing. I thought, gosh, you guys know less about history than you do about

00:07:14.860 science. It's not history when you're the second person to do something. I, you know, I remember that

00:07:19.520 day four years ago, 2017, when I made history as the third Daily Wire podcast host. It wasn't,

00:07:27.260 that was so historic. What a historic day. A slight digression. So here, here we go. There's

00:07:31.780 the first two claims. Virus likely started in the lab. China may have unleashed it intentionally.

00:07:35.600 Third claim, oh, now we're going to get in trouble. The people who had the virus very likely do not need

00:07:40.660 the vaccine because people would have antibodies. Now we're told we have no idea how long the vaccine

00:07:45.880 will be effective. People might need booster shots. And I've told you, I've told you from day one

00:07:50.680 that I'm in no rush to get this vaccine. Why? Well, I strongly suspect I had the virus already

00:07:55.620 and I'm in a relatively statistically young, healthy age group. And so there's no real risk

00:08:02.620 from the virus for me. There are for other groups, but not really for people like me. Doesn't mean I

00:08:06.580 can't get it. Doesn't even mean I can't die from it. But just looking at the numbers, things are

00:08:10.580 looking in my favor. New study out, even a mild case of COVID-19 can create antibodies that could give

00:08:19.380 you a lifetime of protection from the virus. Quote, months after recovering from mild cases of COVID-19,

00:08:25.420 people still have immune cells in their body pumping out antibodies against the virus that causes COVID-19,

00:08:30.360 according to researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, which is a very good

00:08:35.100 school. This is now being reported in study finds. Such cells could persist for a lifetime, churning out

00:08:41.600 antibodies all the while. Studies findings were published Monday in the journal Nature. So these

00:08:46.980 are serious studies from serious universities being published in a well-respected journal.

00:08:53.180 But you've got to get the vaccine, even if you're young and healthy, even if you've had the virus.

00:08:57.240 Well, not according to the science, not according to the study. Just get it. Get the jab. Get the vaccine.

00:09:03.180 I don't think so. There's nothing going on with the vaccine. No risk whatsoever. Well, actually,

00:09:08.840 we'll get into some reports later coming out of Connecticut that we mentioned briefly on the show

00:09:12.600 yesterday that suggest, well, maybe, you know, in rare cases, there could be a problem.

00:09:17.760 And the argument for young people getting it seems to be falling apart by the day. And then, oh man,

00:09:22.420 this is, this is a really bad one. Oh, this one, if I'm still on YouTube, somehow this one's going to

00:09:27.940 get me taken down. I have been saying from the beginning, I'm actually saying what Dr. Fauci said from

00:09:35.920 the beginning, namely that the masks as a medical device do virtually nothing to stop a pandemic.

00:09:45.140 I'm not saying they do nothing when surgeons wear them in certain cases. I'm saying that when a bunch

00:09:49.000 of people wearing filthy cloth on their face doesn't do anything to stop an epidemic. I've been told

00:09:54.340 by the big tech censors, I cannot say that. Well, what if I'm reading a study? What if I'm reading the

00:10:00.080 first ecological study of state mask mandates? I'm looking at their data and I'm, I'm noticing that

00:10:07.340 they find that widespread mask wearing likely did not slow the spread of COVID-19. This is a study

00:10:15.340 conducted by the University of Louisville using data from the Centers for Disease Control and

00:10:21.260 Prevention, right? So this is the CDC found that 80% of U.S. states mandated masks during the COVID-19

00:10:26.940 pandemic. And while, quote, mandates induced greater mask compliance, right? The mandates

00:10:31.240 did get people to wear the mask more. They did not predict lower growth rates when community spread

00:10:38.100 was low or high. So yes, the mask mandates are quite good at getting people to wear the masks,

00:10:45.240 unless you're a curmudgeonly conservative like me and you, and then you wear it below your nose and

00:10:48.700 you do all sorts of, sometimes you don't wear it at all. But the mask mandates didn't do very much to

00:10:54.400 slow the spread because the masks don't do anything, according to this study, to slow the spread.

00:11:02.180 The study found, quote, mask mandates and use are, and use are not associated with lower SARS-CoV-2,

00:11:09.080 COVID-19 spread among U.S. states. Our findings do not support the hypothesis that COVID transmission

00:11:15.060 rates decrease with greater public mask use, according to the study. Now, what do the masks? The masks do

00:11:20.980 something. According to these researchers, masks, quote, may promote social cohesion as rallying symbols

00:11:28.480 during a pandemic, but risk compensation can also occur. In other words, the masks have one use.

00:11:37.500 They are effective at doing one thing, acting as a political symbol, but they have no medical use or

00:11:45.980 scientific use in the public during a pandemic. In other words, I hate to put too fine a point on

00:11:54.800 this. You know how much I hate to say it. It kills me to say this sort of thing. I was right about

00:12:01.500 everything. I was right, and so were you. So were you, because I know that you guys were almost to a

00:12:09.520 person on the correct side of this issue, and the experts and the geniuses and the squishy

00:12:15.420 conservatives and the follow the science people were dead wrong about everything. And by the way,

00:12:21.300 now that everyone's changing their tune, now that Facebook's changing its tune, now that Biden's

00:12:24.520 changing its tune, you're gonna hear, well, you know, at the time, it made a lot of sense to follow

00:12:28.520 this. No, it didn't. It never did. They were always wrong, and we were always right. And you know what's

00:12:33.080 gonna happen tomorrow when the scientific establishment or Joe Biden or the media or big

00:12:38.900 tech, I'm repeating myself, they're all the same blob, when they tomorrow make some other stupid

00:12:43.860 claim without any basis in reality, and when we contradict that claim tomorrow, when your conservative

00:12:49.020 uncle who doesn't have a bunch of fancy degrees, you know what's gonna happen? They're still gonna

00:12:53.080 call us a bunch of idiots, and they're still gonna go listen to Dr. Fauci. They're not gonna learn a

00:12:57.520 damn thing, but you should. We were right. They were wrong. We should take that lesson into the

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00:14:29.180 Text Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S, to 30-30-30. The science is changing. The data are changing.

00:14:36.340 And it turns out that the data, the science and the data now are starting to support

00:14:39.800 what anybody with two brain cells to rub together and a modicum of common sense knew

00:14:44.740 a year ago on the lockdowns, on the masks, on the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and the Chinese

00:14:51.640 communists at least covering this up. And even according to the Biden administration, even

00:14:57.000 possibly unleashing this virus intentionally. And yet, do you think Biden's going to change

00:15:04.020 course? Do you think in terms of the day-to-day nitty-gritty of the COVID lockdowns and the

00:15:10.380 COVID agenda? Do you think they're going to change course? No. No, actually. There's a

00:15:15.480 study out that suggests that people who've had the virus just don't need the vaccine.

00:15:18.740 They've got immunity. They've got the antibodies. No, they're not going to change course. Joe

00:15:22.680 Biden just went on the YouTube channel of Manny Mua. Can't say he's one of the channels I

00:15:28.640 subscribe to. He's some eccentric leftist YouTuber. He went on there with Dr. Fauci and they made

00:15:37.200 the point, still in their view, that it is not just important that you get the shot,

00:15:42.020 no matter how old you are, no matter your risk group. It's not just preferable. It is your

00:15:47.100 obligation to get the vaccine. There's a lot of rumors that are going around that young and healthy

00:15:52.220 people don't need to get the vaccine. You should save it for people who are a little bit older.

00:15:57.140 What do you guys think about that? Both of your guys' thoughts. They are not exempt from getting

00:16:00.820 serious illness. So you want to protect the youngsters, be they adolescents, be they young children.

00:16:06.760 You want to protect them. There's no doubt about it. But then there's also the responsibility that

00:16:11.560 you have of not being part of spreading the infection throughout the community.

00:16:16.620 So you almost want to take what I call a societal responsibility. Protecting children also protects

00:16:23.100 society. I think it's an obligation, an obligation to help your fellow man, an obligation to make sure

00:16:29.480 that even if it's only a small percentage possibility that you could be a carrier of and spread the

00:16:36.000 disease, that you have an obligation. You have an obligation, they say. There's a point about this

00:16:42.540 that is going to be missed if you're only listening to what they're saying, if you only listened to the

00:16:47.620 interview with Manny Mua. Namely, Biden and Fauci are framed in the shot on video as priests. They are.

00:16:56.760 You can see it. Go watch the video later. Dr. Fauci is sitting in front of a table that looks like an

00:17:04.160 altar in front of lamps that look like crucifixes. They do. And there are no mistakes in Hollywood.

00:17:09.220 Okay? There are no. Very, very few. When people set up a shot, they are doing it to convey a message

00:17:15.940 to you. And when you look at Fauci in the close-up with the blurry background behind him,

00:17:20.180 that the two lamps, I suspect, were selected for a reason, look like crucifixes on an altar.

00:17:28.680 Because Dr. Fauci is the high priest of progressivism. Joe Biden, too. They're not

00:17:33.180 making a scientific point here. They're pretty open about that. They say, look, you know, the science

00:17:37.080 and the risk groups and the demographic groups and this. They're making a political and a social.

00:17:42.680 It's your ethical obligation. It's your social obligation. Joe Biden, it's social. It's moral.

00:17:49.640 It's religious. These guys are our self-appointed religious leaders in the religion of secular

00:17:59.840 progressivism. And again, you know how much I hate to tell you I told you so, but gave a speech about

00:18:05.200 this months ago. That is what this is really coming down to. So is it your obligation? Do you have to do

00:18:10.820 it? Do you, let's say you're a healthy young person, 22 years old, young virile man, do you need to go get

00:18:20.260 the vaccine? Well, there might be some risk. I know we're not allowed to say that there's risk. I know we're

00:18:27.060 going to get taken off YouTube for this, but I'm just, I'm just reading the headlines. Yesterday I

00:18:31.440 said, you know, I'm hearing some reports that there are rare cases, granted some, some issues

00:18:38.360 with this vaccine. I've heard anecdotes from friends of mine who got the vaccine and had some heart

00:18:43.200 issues, had to go see the doctor. The doctors don't want to say that it's because of the vaccine,

00:18:47.340 but they have cautioned these people. I'm just speaking anecdotally to maybe not get the second

00:18:52.260 dose. They're not willing to say it's the vaccine, but maybe watch out. Maybe don't get that second

00:18:57.240 dose. Well, some people have actually come out and said, maybe this is because of the vaccine. In

00:19:03.220 Connecticut, relatively small state, 18 cases of heart inflammation in, after COVID-19 vaccination.

00:19:12.040 Here's the headline. Connecticut has seen 18 cases of heart inflammation after COVID-19 vaccination,

00:19:16.660 but doctors say teens and young adults should still get the shot. Why? Why should they?

00:19:22.260 Because of the ethical and moral and religious responsibility. Well, first of all, I don't look

00:19:28.820 to Dr. Fauci, a liar, a guy who has repeatedly lied to the public. I don't look to him for my

00:19:35.840 moral and religious advice. What's going on? You've seen multiple people, a lot of men, but some women

00:19:41.780 too, who are contracting inflammation of the heart, myocarditis. Well, Michael, how many zillions of

00:19:49.740 people have been vaccinated? You know, come on, 18 cases, that's nothing. Yeah, sure. I mean, 18 cases

00:19:54.460 are what we're hearing about right now. Michael, we don't know that it's linked to the vaccine. That's

00:19:58.160 true. Just, it's just the CDC is looking into it. So, you know, there's some evidence, I think, that

00:20:02.780 it might have something to do with the vaccine. But furthermore, let's say it's 18 people in the

00:20:07.660 whole, it's not, it's more than that, but let's say it's 18 people in the whole country.

00:20:10.780 If there is any risk whatsoever that I'm going to contract this rare complication,

00:20:19.040 inflammation of the heart in otherwise healthy young people, then why would I do it? Particularly

00:20:24.880 if I've already had the virus, particularly if I have the antibodies, which the other studies show

00:20:29.420 give you, may very likely give you immunity for life. Why would I do it? Because Fauci says so.

00:20:37.360 Well, what's Fauci's argument? Fauci's argument is, he said so. That's his whole argument. He says,

00:20:42.440 it's social, it's ethical, it's, we, no. How about we use our prudence? We're not allowed to use our

00:20:49.780 prudence. We're told prudence, it's not a virtue. It's actually, it's a vice. It's prejudice. It's an

00:20:55.820 irrational prejudice. Just do what the experts, even if the experts contradict themselves every other

00:20:59.740 day. Remember, your kooky uncle with a good hunch was right about everything. And Dr. Fauci,

00:21:07.360 who's got all the degrees and all the experts in the science, was wrong about everything.

00:21:13.200 Let that inform your decision making moving forward. You know, thankfully, some people are

00:21:21.840 taking political power back. When Dr. Fauci takes all that political power, and when the left

00:21:27.000 establishment wants to give it to him, it's part of the progressive project. Take the political power

00:21:31.600 away from the people, give it to the bureaucrats and the technocrats. Woodrow Wilson spelled it out

00:21:37.680 more than 100 years ago. While that is happening right now, some Republicans are taking the power

00:21:43.640 back. I love this story out of Idaho. The lieutenant governor of Idaho just signed an executive order

00:21:50.660 banning mask mandates. Not too far from me here in South Dakota, I think. I don't, I actually don't

00:21:56.180 really know. I'm not, I'm not an expert on geography, but I, it's probably somewhat close,

00:22:00.400 is it? I don't know. Anyway, well, I'll look at a map later on. How does the lieutenant governor

00:22:04.620 sign an executive order? She's not the governor. Well, because the governor was out of town for,

00:22:12.180 for a little bit. This lieutenant governor was temporarily raised up to, to governor to deal with

00:22:17.440 issues in the state. When this happens, 99 times out of 100 or more, the lieutenant governor doesn't

00:22:23.400 really do anything, just there in case anyone needs, anyone needs him or her. But this lieutenant

00:22:27.600 governor said, oh, I'm governor. Awesome. I'm going to start signing some, some executive orders. So she

00:22:31.940 signs this order, says, quote, today, as acting governor of the state of Idaho, I signed an executive

00:22:38.340 order to protect the rights and liberties in businesses by prohibiting the state and its political

00:22:44.600 subdivisions, including public schools, from imposing mask mandates in our state.

00:22:50.020 Love that. Janice McGeechan, am I, I'm probably mispronouncing that. So then the governor comes

00:22:55.240 back and they say, did you guys plan this? And the governor says, no, I didn't know she was going

00:22:59.380 to do this. But it puts him in an impossible situation, really backs him into a corner. What's

00:23:03.700 he going to do? Is he going to rescind the executive order? Then he looks like a squish. Then he looks

00:23:08.480 like a lib. No. By the way, this woman, Janice, has said that she's going to run for governor next

00:23:13.980 go around, whether he runs or not. So he knows that he's got a political threat from her. I love

00:23:19.620 it. But Michael, that's not orderly. That's not, that's not respectable. That's, come on, we've got

00:23:25.900 to, we've got to be, we've got to lose with dignity. Nope. That's not what this woman's doing.

00:23:29.680 I love it. I absolutely love it. Great, great stuff. We need to take power this sort of, this way,

00:23:36.320 which he did totally legal, totally smart, totally effective. Highly doubt he's going to rescind

00:23:43.120 that mask mandate. Now he's trying to get on the right side of it. He said, we never had, or that

00:23:47.640 anti-mask mandate. He said, we never had mask mandates in Idaho. Yeah, good. Okay. Well,

00:23:52.060 now you're not going to, right? Unless you rescind the order. We're getting a lot of good news on the

00:23:57.260 political, political front, as a matter of fact. The leader of Black Lives Matter, I'm sorry,

00:24:03.880 that's not, the leader of BLM, which used to stand for Black Lives Matter. Now it stands for

00:24:08.000 Buy Large Mansions. You'll remember Patrice Cullors, co-founder of BLM. She's been in some hot

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00:26:23.640 Culler's being booted from BLM. So when we covered this story, whenever it broke a month or two ago,

00:26:32.300 the left, they all downplayed it. Oh, it's not a big deal. This is totally justified. Patrice

00:26:36.200 Culler, she said, I haven't taken money directly from BLM, which is, I think, basically true,

00:26:41.800 but it's a little too clever by half. She might not have taken money out of the debit card, you know,

00:26:46.760 from the BLM account. But she has a bunch of little shell companies and she uses them as an

00:26:53.780 extortion artist to local governments, to companies, to get money from them through the

00:26:59.480 cause of BLM. And she's become a very wealthy woman doing it. So now she's announced just yesterday

00:27:04.440 that she is stepping down from the organization, which comes as she and the organization have faced

00:27:09.520 widespread criticism over not just the violent riots. She's happy about those. She's facing

00:27:16.180 criticism for the corruption, for the extortion here. Very glad. We need to hold these people's

00:27:21.280 feet to the fire. It's not cancel culture. I guess she's getting canceled. Whatever. If that's what

00:27:26.800 cancel culture is, sign me up. I'm all for it. We need to wield political power effectively. We need

00:27:32.680 to wield executive orders effectively. I know there's this old idea. It's not that old. I mean,

00:27:37.780 this is something that cropped up, I guess, in the last 20 years of conservatism. And it's really

00:27:43.160 atrophied us. It's pushed by the squishes. You know the guys I'm talking about. The guys who

00:27:49.060 suggest that, you know, drag queen story hour is a blessing of liberty. You know, sometimes these

00:27:55.340 guys are called the French Davidians. It's like the guys in Laco, you know, the French Davidians.

00:28:00.940 There are these guys who don't want to wield political power, okay? Older conservatives understood

00:28:08.380 this. I was just speaking at YAF last night about how William F. Buckley Jr., the urbane,

00:28:13.920 very respectable founder of the post-war conservative movement, cheered on McCarthyism

00:28:18.500 for a long, long time. And even when he started to criticize McCarthy, he still broadly defended the

00:28:24.220 McCarthyist project. It's good. We do need to do that. We need to do it in Idaho. We need to do it on

00:28:29.940 the mask mandate. We need to do it by booting radicals out of the public square, whether that's

00:28:35.780 the leaders of the BLM terror organization, or whether that is, and I don't think I'm being

00:28:41.020 hyperbolic when I say that. Michael, not all the protests were violent. I'm not saying all the

00:28:45.400 protests were violent. But the organization is explicitly calling for the overthrow of society,

00:28:51.100 right? The overthrow of the cisgender Western family structure, for goodness sakes.

00:28:55.900 They are, I think, tacitly endorsing this political violence. And in some cases, it's explicit when

00:29:00.700 Maxine Waters calls for riots or when Kamala Harris bails the BLM rioters out of jail,

00:29:06.360 the violent people out of jail. That is something we need to end. Got to get it. When Nicole Hannah

00:29:12.680 Jones is not offered a job at a university, good, good stuff. Love that. Speaking of BLM,

00:29:18.420 there's a story on BLM I want to take from a slightly different angle than we usually do.

00:29:22.880 This is a radio host who is a radio host in New York. She had gone on the air one day,

00:29:30.680 probably many days, and said, F the police, F the police. Typical sort of thing you would hear from

00:29:35.200 BLM or from the radical left. And then hours later, she kills a police officer in her car. Take a listen.

00:29:43.200 I will see you guys next Monday at 6 p.m. back here on Face the Reality Radio, on the Instagram,

00:29:55.620 and on the Facebook. And until then, the police. Until then, that's like her sign-off, right? And

00:30:05.360 then hours later, this 32-year-old woman, Jessica Beauvais, hit a police officer, a highway officer

00:30:13.300 in her Volkswagen. He was redirecting traffic, and she killed him. Why did she kill him? Did

00:30:18.180 she target him because he was a cop? No, I don't think there's evidence of that. But she was hammered.

00:30:23.280 She was drunk and high in the studio. She drank a lot. She admitted to this, to drinking a bunch,

00:30:28.240 to smoking a bunch of pot. And then, totally impaired, she kills this guy. She killed Anastasio

00:30:34.860 Sakos, 43, father of a 6-year-old daughter and a 3-year-old son. He was redirecting traffic

00:30:40.160 after a separate fatal car accident, and she hit and killed him. Did you know what her reaction

00:30:45.120 was? This direct quote. Why did my first accident have to be a cop? Not that I wanted it to be

00:30:50.660 someone else, but F. I've been driving since I was 16 and haven't hit as much as a pothole.

00:30:58.140 Fairly callous and selfish response. But put all that aside for a sec. She was probably still

00:31:04.020 drunk and high at the time. I don't see any evidence that this woman was aiming at a cop.

00:31:09.680 I mean, she's saying, gosh, why did I do this? It's going to ruin her life. The reason I bring

00:31:13.940 it up is not to say this is a terrible woman. I mean, she did terrible things. If you get super

00:31:18.320 drunk and high and then get behind the wheel, you are endangering people. But I mentioned it to bring

00:31:24.640 up what she said on the show. F the police. That's probably the last thing that people are going to

00:31:29.500 remember. Probably the first thing and the last thing people are going to remember about this

00:31:32.420 woman. And I wonder if she's got any conscience in her whatsoever, how that's going to go through

00:31:38.540 her head. She's going to remember that she killed this guy, father of young kids, because of her

00:31:45.760 irresponsibility. And the last thing that she said was F the police. Not good stuff, guys. Not good

00:31:51.500 stuff. You do not want to have these sorts of regrets from a purely selfish standpoint, even.

00:31:57.120 You do not want to live with this kind of stuff on your conscience, whether it's acting irresponsibly

00:32:03.200 and then hurting somebody, or whether it's even just saying a cruel, vicious thing. And then, God

00:32:09.360 forbid, you know, somebody dies, someone goes away. And that's the last thing that you're going to

00:32:12.860 remember. You don't want to live like that. Okay? I joke about it sometimes when I get fan mail from

00:32:19.120 the radical left. Get a fair bit of it. I got one yesterday on Instagram from some gal. And it was

00:32:24.880 this sort of vile stream of insults and really mean things. And I responded. And I said, I don't

00:32:31.280 respond to any messages, but I did see it. It popped up. And I said, imagine saying this to a perfect

00:32:36.100 stranger. Imagine what it takes to go. A perfect stranger, you go and you write these vile things.

00:32:40.760 And she had a good response. She said, I don't need to imagine it. I said, that was a softball,

00:32:45.220 you know, but touche. Touche. That was a funny answer. But the reason that I respond to kind of

00:32:50.180 just laugh these things off is because I don't want the last thing that I've said to somebody to

00:32:58.920 be something vile. Not even just for them. Not even just because it's, you know, that's the wrong

00:33:03.900 thing to do. That's going to be on my conscience. That will sully me. That will degrade me. So I don't

00:33:09.840 want to do it. We do these things sometimes. You'll lose your temper, whatever. You know, it gets the best

00:33:13.860 of you. But one wants to avoid it. Not just for the moral order, but because it's in your own

00:33:20.500 interest too. You need to fight back against these sorts of radicals. You can fight back

00:33:24.900 without degrading yourself. Here's a great way that someone is doing it right now.

00:33:29.640 A Daily Caller reporter is suing Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago. Daily Caller News Foundation

00:33:34.980 and Judicial Watch are suing Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot for discrimination because she refused

00:33:39.840 an interview to her reporter. Not to her reporter, to a Daily Caller reporter, Thomas Catenacci. Catenacci,

00:33:46.900 you'll note, sounds a little bit like my people, you know, the Italian people. But Lori Lightfoot

00:33:52.960 said she's only going to grant interviews to brown and black reporters. And I know the Italians are

00:33:57.000 pretty swarthy. All right, we've occupied a sort of interesting racial space throughout history.

00:34:01.760 But he's not black enough for her, so he was denied the report. This is discrimination. He should sue

00:34:06.740 her. This is good. I like this. I like that. But it's a threat. It's outrageous. We shouldn't be.

00:34:12.420 No, it's good. Good to exercise our rights this way. Lori Lightfoot should be canceled. That's a very

00:34:18.960 good thing. We cannot tolerate this kind of stuff, this rank bigotry. Well, let's just go along to get

00:34:27.340 it. Let's just only talk about tax cuts and regulatory reform. I had a bunch of squishes blow up my

00:34:33.880 mentions on Twitter to this effect. Misinterpreting many comments I've made obtusely, you know, in a

00:34:42.340 way that might be sort of disingenuous. As if to say that I don't think we should cut taxes. As if to

00:34:47.720 say I don't think we should reform regulations. Yeah, we should do that. Those are all, that's all

00:34:50.700 well and good. I like a good tax cut much as the next guy. But that's not the only thing we should be

00:34:54.900 doing. And I think a lot of so-called conservatives, but they're in the squish camp, they focus only on

00:35:00.120 those issues because they want to be liked. You know, they want, they'll, yo, I'm just a quirky

00:35:04.060 conservative. I just want to cut regulations or whatever. That's totally cool. But on any

00:35:07.660 controversial issue, on any issue that really threatens the liberal regime, they go silent

00:35:13.380 or they go impotent or in some cases they support the left outright. They vote for Democrats in

00:35:18.920 crucial elections, that sort of thing. That's not, that's not going to, that's not going to help us

00:35:24.560 fight back. Okay. That's not, they're going to, they're the ones who are going to criticize your

00:35:28.260 crazy uncle and say, oh, follow the science. Come on. I'm not, I'm a conservative, but I'm not one of

00:35:32.240 those conservatives. Well, guess what? One of those conservatives, your crazy uncle who called all

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00:36:37.220 be right back with the mailbag. First question up in the mailbag from Matthew. Mr. Knowles.

00:36:56.140 Since Controlling Words is Controlling Minds, do we get a ding for that? Okay, good. I don't know

00:37:01.700 because we didn't say the first part. The book is called Speechless, though. Speechless, Controlling

00:37:05.200 Words, Controlling Minds, available now for pre-order. You can get it everywhere. Thank you

00:37:07.680 to those who pre-ordered. Can we drop the gun in gun violence and instead call it either just

00:37:12.340 violence or violence using a firearm? Much like dropping biological from biological man to refer to

00:37:18.440 a man. Thank you. Perhaps, I mean, I do think there is some utility in knowing. There is a difference

00:37:23.520 between shooting somebody and stabbing somebody and punching someone in the head using a club.

00:37:28.320 Here's one difference. More people die every year from clubs and bats and that sort of thing than

00:37:32.920 from any sort of rifle, including the AR-15. So, but I think your point is well taken. Why are we

00:37:39.080 only concerned with gun violence? Why are we not concerned with bat violence, knife violence? In

00:37:45.080 countries that ban guns, what happens? You see a spike in knife violence. So, yeah, I think that's a good

00:37:49.160 point. The reason we need to drop biological from biological male is because it suggests

00:37:54.560 that there's some other kind of male. You know, there's a, there are non-biological males. No,

00:37:59.460 there's not. It's just dudes. Okay, it's dudes and chicks. That's what there is. But there are

00:38:03.160 different types of violence and I think we should focus on it. And even on the gun issue, we should,

00:38:07.700 we should not take the left's bait. They always want to say, look, we got to talk about not just

00:38:12.600 violence, but gun violence, not just gun violence, but the scariest gun, the AR-15. The AR-15 is involved in

00:38:17.540 statistically just about no killings per year. Very, very few. Pistols are involved in a lot of

00:38:24.920 killings, but the AR-15s are the big scary weapon that the mean white male Republicans use. And

00:38:33.120 pistols are what gangsters in Chicago use. So that undermines the left's narrative on guns and race

00:38:41.060 and justice. So they don't want to talk about it. But I think we actually could talk about it. I think

00:38:44.640 that distinction is worth having. Question up from Adriano. Adriano, what a good name.

00:38:49.640 Hello, my name is Adriano. I know it's written right there. I'm looking for some advice here

00:38:53.700 from a fellow Italian Catholic. About 10 years ago, my then girlfriend, now wife, got raped by a guy

00:38:59.220 and had an abortion to deal with the trauma. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to hear that. We were tight on

00:39:03.720 money, going through a rough time, and were honestly just miserable after what happened. Yeah,

00:39:08.440 of course you would be. We have since gone through therapy, gone through confession,

00:39:12.840 gotten married, and had some kids. We've become very emotional over the fact that this year would

00:39:17.540 be the baby's 10th year alive. And we threw that away for nothing. Wow. I've been finding myself

00:39:23.880 having nightmares and crying, which is not normal. On top of this, my kids found out about the incident

00:39:28.360 from another family member. Do you have advice? Because honestly, anything would be good right now.

00:39:32.580 Here's my advice. St. Paul was a murderer. I had a guy who was pretty mobbed up. He was a bit of a

00:39:43.800 gangster in New York. Now he's a total born-again Christian, goes to mass every single day. He said

00:39:50.480 that to me once. We were talking about his story, and he said, you know, St. Paul was a murderer.

00:39:55.940 Whoa, heavy stuff, man. St. Paul was a murderer, and he helped to cede the church, one of the key

00:40:05.400 figures in doing that. I'm glad I've never gone through what you've gone through. I hope that I

00:40:12.660 wouldn't have, you know, done it, but certainly the temptation would have been there. And at other

00:40:18.860 periods of my life, I certainly would have done it. If I, during my atheist years, oh, I think I probably

00:40:24.340 would have. I would have come to regret it just like you're regretting it, but yeah, probably.

00:40:28.500 I think a lot of people do. I think a lot of people experience this regret, and you're seeing

00:40:32.000 it right now, because you're, can you imagine how crazy it is? You got basically the worst thing ever

00:40:35.740 happens to your wife, and to you also, and you do this thing, and then 10 years later,

00:40:43.760 you're regretting that your wife didn't have her rapist's child. What, what, because you recognize,

00:40:49.660 you can see it, it's undeniable, that that baby is a baby. But if you asked anybody what you did,

00:40:57.120 is that understandable? Everybody would say, it's understandable, of course. But now you've

00:41:01.040 come to regret that too. We all have regrets, pal. Everybody's got a past. Some things are worse

00:41:07.600 than others, no doubt about it. But you've, you've confessed, right? You've received absolution,

00:41:14.420 I take it. You've got to be willing to accept that too. You do have, I mean, it is, it's not just a

00:41:21.060 feeling, right? And in our faith, it's not just like, well, I think it's kind of a subjective

00:41:25.220 feeling. It's a fact, all right? This is an incarnational faith with real sacraments that

00:41:29.740 really do confer forgiveness and really do confer graces. And so, you have received that. And you

00:41:36.160 know, there are temporal effects of sin and you're dealing with some of these. But not all the saints

00:41:44.160 started well, but they all ended well. It's a line from St. John Vianney. And some of them started off

00:41:49.300 really bad. Some of them did very bad things and things they came to regret. But where are you now

00:41:56.060 and where are you going? I will pray for you and your wife and the, and the daughter and, and that

00:42:02.260 you, that you'll accept absolution and forgiveness and, you know, go on and have a good life. From

00:42:10.020 Brian, I came out to my family about my sexuality recently. I revealed to them that I'm a gender

00:42:14.880 rigid, half bisexual, half bisexual. Gender, man, what a great line. My pronouns are, I'm not such a

00:42:24.420 towering, rabid, malignant narcissist that I expect the rules of the English language to change to

00:42:28.980 accommodate me and my unique identity. They don't seem receptive to my new identity. Do you think

00:42:34.300 they're being unreasonable? Thanks. Yes, they are. They're being very intolerant and very close-minded.

00:42:39.360 And I say this, I guess I'll come out right now on the show too. I say this as a gender rigid,

00:42:45.420 half bisexual myself. Don't worry. It gets better. It gets better. Okay. You are seen. You are heard.

00:42:52.880 And your pronouns, that's a beautiful pronoun. I love that. Not being a malignant narcissist. Wow.

00:42:58.100 That's a great pronoun. My best to you and your family. I hope they, I hope they can come around.

00:43:02.320 From Hannah. Hey, Michael. Just heard about the people calling out to people on the streets asking

00:43:07.020 if they identify themselves as Jewish or not. You've seen this in Los Angeles, in New York. People,

00:43:11.780 pro-Palestinian lunatics will run up and say, are you Jewish? And I'll beat the hell out of them.

00:43:15.820 As a fellow Catholic, I'm wondering if we would be denying Christ if someone like that called out for

00:43:20.340 Christians to identify themselves and we just ignore them. My gut says to be silent and walk

00:43:24.540 on. But where is the line between apostasy, denial of Christ, and just keeping your nose to the ground?

00:43:28.420 Well, yeah, I would not recommend denying Christ. I think it's a bad idea. St. Peter did it three

00:43:32.260 times and he came to regret that and weep bitterly. But then, you know, he turned it around and made amends.

00:43:41.140 If some guy is screaming at you on the street, you do not owe that person a response,

00:43:45.360 especially if you're walking with your family or something like that. If you're walking alone,

00:43:49.340 if you're a guy, I mean, then maybe you'd be a little more confrontational. However,

00:43:54.180 if somebody comes up to you and really directly asks this question, you've got to give an answer.

00:43:59.160 You know, it's just not, if you really find yourself in a situation where you would be

00:44:04.520 denying Christ tacitly or explicitly, I would not deny it. There was that scene years ago of the

00:44:10.880 Copts, the Coptic Christians who were on the beach and the Islamic terrorists were there and

00:44:18.960 they had knives at their necks and they say, deny Christ. And they said, we love Yeshua. We believe

00:44:25.120 in Yeshua. You know, they would not deny Christ. And they slit their throats. Now those guys are in

00:44:28.920 heaven. So we are called to that. You know, the seeds of the church are the blood of the martyrs and

00:44:33.620 it's never easy for Christians. Sometimes it's a little tougher than other times. So while we don't

00:44:40.100 owe people an answer, as things become more direct, you need to, you need to defend your faith or you

00:44:48.140 won't, you know, you, you deny the Lord, then he will deny you on, I think he says that somewhere in

00:44:54.100 a book. From Hannah. Hey, Michael, I'm a college student in the United Kingdom. I think that's the

00:44:59.740 equivalent to high school junior year. That's true. I know it's very difficult, you Brits, with all your

00:45:04.680 words that mean different things in the American. I was studying in the library this morning when a

00:45:09.420 class came in and the teachers started telling them very matter-of-factly that George Floyd's

00:45:13.360 death was a racially motivated murder and that America is a racist country. I have one friend

00:45:17.280 who shares the same conservative values as me, but she goes to a different college. So sometimes

00:45:21.040 I feel quite alone. Quite is actually another word that in, in America can mean very, but in

00:45:28.020 Britain can mean a little bit. That's okay. Anyway, enough pedantic language talk. You know where

00:45:32.900 you can get some non-pedantic, very gripping language talk? In my upcoming book, Speechless

00:45:36.360 Controlling. Where is Controlling? Mine's available now, by the way, for pre-order.

00:45:40.700 There it is. There's that bell. Everyone else seems to have very far-left views. Do you think

00:45:45.300 I should stand up for my beliefs more or just keep my head down and get through college? Thanks

00:45:48.580 for all you do. P.S. Just, oh, she gave me a plug too. Just pre-ordered. Speechless. So,

00:45:54.520 there it is. I guess that's a separate one. I guess it's a similar answer to the previous

00:46:00.720 question. This on politics. You don't need to, and it may not be even prudent, to go, you know,

00:46:08.280 flaunting your politics constantly all the time, being very flamboyant about it, wearing the hat,

00:46:12.620 the MAGA hat at the water cooler or something. But likewise, I wouldn't hide who you are tacitly or

00:46:17.320 explicitly. I wouldn't lie. And you do need to start practicing integrity now. Integrity is one of

00:46:23.400 these things that you've got to work on. You know, it's like virtue and vice. They're habits. The more you

00:46:27.420 do them, the more you'll do them. The easier they become. So, I wouldn't hide it. And you'll get

00:46:32.960 lower grades and you'll perhaps be ostracized from your classroom. But I wouldn't be prudent.

00:46:37.960 We're called to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. So, I'm not saying you should be wise as

00:46:42.920 a dove and innocent as a serpent. But you should, when it comes down to it, you should have integrity

00:46:47.900 and stand up for what you believe. Next question from John. Hold the phone. George Will thinks that

00:46:53.920 representatives are scared of their voters. Am I missing something? Isn't that better than the

00:46:58.340 voters being scared of the government? Let me know what you think. That's a good point. George Will

00:47:02.180 said on one of the leftist shows, George Will, a former Republican, former conservative. Now, I think

00:47:06.880 he's a Libertarian Party member or an Independent. George Will said, the GOP is scared of its voters and

00:47:13.280 they've lost all their credibility and all their integrity. Well, yeah, it's good to be a little

00:47:18.600 scared of your voters. You should still exercise your judgment, by the way. In representative

00:47:22.500 government, we don't elect people so that they just do whatever we tell them to do all the time.

00:47:26.120 We are electing their judgment. I mean, this is an insight that Edmund Burke made.

00:47:30.840 But we should make sure that our elected officials know who sent them there. And if they consistently

00:47:38.140 just diss us and ignore what we want, then we should boot them out. That's a very good thing.

00:47:42.520 Good point. You make a far better point than George Will did on that show. From Suzanne.

00:47:47.140 I'm a new mother to an eight-month-old girl with a second on the way. Wow, congratulations. That's great.

00:47:50.860 I waited until I was 36 to have my first child, and that is a regret in itself. But my real trouble

00:47:56.200 is that I got into a whirlwind romance with a co-worker and decided that trying to have a baby

00:48:00.320 was what I wanted because I was getting older and feeling lonely. I think this happens to a lot of

00:48:03.740 women. I got pregnant. We married five months later. We decided to try for another quickly so our

00:48:08.720 children can have one another. He's a good man. He's a hard worker. He loves me and the family,

00:48:13.100 but I don't love him. I realize now we don't have very much in common, and his family is relatively

00:48:18.300 awful. Relatively. That's a good, that's a pun. That was good. Did you do that intentionally?

00:48:22.440 I think love has to be, oh, sorry. I am determined to never be a divorcee and to provide for our

00:48:29.280 children with a stable two-parent home. I think love has to be the foundation and not something

00:48:33.420 you strive for after rash decision-making. Any advice on how I should proceed and how to make

00:48:37.540 my marriage work? Thank you so much. I don't want to downplay true love. You know, I got to marry the

00:48:42.360 one. I got to marry sweet little Elisa, who just is the sort of transcendent love of my life and has

00:48:47.560 been for a long time. Even when we were split up for some years in there, you know, she was still

00:48:54.040 there. She was still kind of floating in the ether. Then we got together and that's a happy ending to

00:48:58.380 the story. Not everybody gets that. It sounds like you didn't get that. Romantic love, even more than

00:49:05.800 romantic love. You know, this kind of deeper feeling of kinship, the idea that this is your

00:49:10.120 soulmate, the other side of your person. Not everybody gets that. Probably most marriages in

00:49:16.660 history have not been based on that. And there have been many great marriages within those things.

00:49:22.140 Marriage is a fact. As when we were answering the question from Adriano earlier about how can he

00:49:28.640 forgive himself? He did this terrible thing. He's received absolution. But, you know, and it's when he

00:49:33.580 made the decision, it was a very complex decision anyway, in the sense that I think any of us could

00:49:38.460 understand making that decision, even if we know it's objectively wrong. Any of us would feel a pull

00:49:44.360 to do it. And now God's forgiven him, but he can't forgive himself. And now what do you do?

00:49:51.360 Our faith is one that is sacramental. It's real. To use a technical term, we partake of a realist

00:49:58.880 epistemology. It's not just heady stuff floating in the sky, and it's not just my feelings and

00:50:03.520 my feelings. It's reality here. You are married. I think it's admirable. Look, you had some kids?

00:50:08.860 That's great. That's a wonderful thing to get out of it. You say you never want to be a divorcee?

00:50:12.720 Good. You shouldn't be a divorcee. You say he's a good guy, but you just don't, the spark's not

00:50:16.760 there? Well, that's fine. Maybe the spark doesn't need to be there. All of our loves, even our romantic

00:50:22.500 love, is ultimately just a faint shadow of our true love, which is oriented toward God. That is where

00:50:28.600 our highest love is, and we sublimate all of these sorts of things. So yeah, you might. By the way,

00:50:34.540 over time, you can, and I suspect will, love this guy that you just decided to get knocked up and

00:50:40.220 have a kid. I think you can and will love him more if you work on that. That will happen. When you see

00:50:46.760 really happily married couples who've been married for 50, 60 years, they will say, almost all of them,

00:50:51.300 they will say, you know, I love my wife today more than I loved her even on the day we were married.

00:50:56.560 And that's true. I feel that way with my wife, you know. She probably doesn't feel that way about

00:50:59.760 me. She thinks, oh, this guy, this mess, this bum, he doesn't do the dishes. But I certainly feel that

00:51:05.000 way. And you can feel that way, I think, no matter how your marriage began. But the marriage is a fact,

00:51:10.920 okay? And you've got a good thing going, even if, you know, he doesn't, you know, pull the romantic

00:51:18.120 poetry out of you all the time, okay? And you can work on that because this is a real world, and you're in

00:51:22.480 a real sacrament. You've got a real family, and you should be grateful about that, and I suspect you are.

00:51:25.560 That's our show. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you on Monday.

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