The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 782 - Don’t Be “True To You”

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00:00:37.660 This Pride Month, Nickelodeon, in the form of a drag queen, has an important message for your kids. 0.99

00:00:44.100 They should be true to themselves.

00:00:47.960 Baby blue, pink, white represent transgender people.

00:00:51.700 And black and brown represent the queer and trans people of color.

00:00:56.980 We're all in this together.

00:01:01.360 So wave that pride flag way up high.

00:01:03.620 Never forget it.

00:01:04.920 Go big.

00:01:05.800 Be kind.

00:01:06.660 Be you.

00:01:07.620 Doesn't it just fill you with pride?

00:01:10.840 Showing who you are on the inside.

00:01:14.280 Never have to hide yourself away.

00:01:17.000 There's a place for you.

00:01:20.800 Doesn't it just fill you with pride?

00:01:23.740 Loving who you are on the inside.

00:01:27.920 Wave that pride flag up high.

00:01:30.500 Be true to you.

00:01:33.360 Be true to you.

00:01:36.060 You need to be true to you.

00:01:38.880 That absolutely horrifying image.

00:01:42.800 But of course that's preposterous.

00:01:44.600 You should not be true to you.

00:01:46.300 You should be true to the truth.

00:01:48.420 Which is not you.

00:01:49.380 It's actually outside of you.

00:01:50.700 When you and the truth are in disagreement, you should go with the truth.

00:01:55.140 But unfortunately, the truth is basically forbidden these days.

00:01:58.520 On COVID, on nationhood, on human nature itself.

00:02:01.720 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:02:02.380 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:03.160 Welcome back to the show.

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00:03:42.440 That image from Nickelodeon, this scary-looking drag queen telling your children that they 1.00

00:03:50.540 need to believe that little boys are little girls, and little girls are little boys, or

00:03:53.860 whatever nonsense.

00:03:55.100 I mean, this is horrifying.

00:03:57.780 I don't think this is liberty.

00:04:01.020 Contrary to some squishy Republicans, I don't think this is one of the blessings of liberty,

00:04:04.720 okay?

00:04:04.900 I don't think this is in the American tradition, but if it is, man, count me out.

00:04:11.640 Something has gone wrong here if this is what we are showing children.

00:04:16.220 And it comes down to not even this question of sex.

00:04:18.960 It comes down to this question of truth.

00:04:22.140 What is the truth?

00:04:23.420 What is our relationship to the truth?

00:04:25.380 What should we do when our views and preferences and the truth come into conflict?

00:04:30.960 Who do we go with?

00:04:31.580 Do we go with ourselves, or do we go with the truth?

00:04:34.720 It's not just the gender radicals that are making demands on the truth. 0.97

00:04:38.960 It's the scientists as well.

00:04:41.240 Dr. Fauci, he's getting attacked all over now because he's been exposed as lying and

00:04:46.660 deceiving and just being flat out wrong about a lot of things through the release of his

00:04:51.080 emails and through other mechanisms.

00:04:53.620 And he's punching back at his critics.

00:04:55.920 He should be fired because he, in the beginning, changed his mind about masks.

00:05:01.620 Well, OK, so let's go back early on with the masks and let's take a look at that.

00:05:09.460 At the time that we were saying we shouldn't be wearing a mask, there were three factors

00:05:13.840 that were going on.

00:05:14.960 A, there was thought to be a shortage of masks.

00:05:18.080 B, there was no evidence that masks worked outside of the context of a hospital.

00:05:24.140 I wear a mask when I'm seeing patients with respiratory disease that could be transmissible

00:05:29.280 like tuberculosis, a well-fitted N95. 0.66

00:05:33.020 Thirdly, we were not aware of the extent of asymptomatic spread.

00:05:38.700 So we said you don't really need to wear a mask.

00:05:40.800 As a scientist, as a health official, when those data change, when you get more information,

00:05:47.460 it's essential that you change your position because you've got to be guided by the science

00:05:53.680 and the current data.

00:05:54.760 That issue with masks is people want to fire me or put me in jail for what I've done, namely

00:06:02.660 follow the science.

00:06:04.600 Weak sauce, buddy.

00:06:06.000 He's a pretty slick politician, Dr. Fauci.

00:06:08.400 Don't forget, if you're in public health, you're half scientist, half politician.

00:06:11.740 The health is the science.

00:06:12.760 The public is the politics.

00:06:14.400 But this just does not hold up at all.

00:06:18.380 He makes three claims here. 0.97

00:06:20.020 We'll get to the first one last because that I think shows you how silly his argument is.

00:06:25.280 The second claim he makes is that we didn't know if masks would work outside of hospitals.

00:06:32.060 Look, we thought that masks only work inside buildings called hospitals.

00:06:38.260 But if you took that same mask into a building called a school or a movie theater, then it

00:06:43.460 wouldn't work because of the magical walls of the hospital.

00:06:49.620 Either the masks are going to work at preventing transmission, either leaving the body or going

00:06:55.060 into the body, or they're not.

00:06:56.200 The magical walls or the magical name of the building as compared to other buildings isn't

00:07:00.280 going to change that.

00:07:01.540 He's trying to distract from the question of do the masks work to what buildings are we

00:07:06.520 going to wear them in?

00:07:07.180 But that's completely unscientific.

00:07:08.900 That's illogical.

00:07:09.700 It doesn't make any sense.

00:07:11.300 Then he says, we didn't look. 1.00

00:07:13.520 The reason I told all you stupid sheep not to wear the masks is because we did not know 1.00

00:07:18.960 the extent of asymptomatic spread. 0.99

00:07:22.340 Okay, so taking, look, obviously there are studies saying that the masks work and there

00:07:27.780 are a lot of studies that say the masks don't work.

00:07:29.880 There are studies that say that asymptomatic spread is a gigantic problem.

00:07:33.220 There are studies saying asymptomatic spread really isn't much of a problem at all.

00:07:36.400 Regardless of those studies, though, you're telling me, Dr. Fauci, that you didn't know

00:07:41.240 the novel coronavirus that shut down the world.

00:07:43.920 You didn't know the extent of asymptomatic spread.

00:07:46.360 So you erred on the side of recklessness?

00:07:49.900 You didn't err on the side of caution.

00:07:51.660 You didn't err on the side of let's watch out in case asymptomatic spread is a big problem. 1.00

00:07:55.640 You erred on the side of, oh, don't worry, it's not a big deal, you dumb sheep. 1.00

00:07:59.000 Go out and lick telephone poles. 1.00

00:08:00.560 That's what you're telling me?

00:08:01.840 I don't think that's true because at the same time you were saying that, you were saying 15

00:08:05.740 days to slow the spread, stop your lives, stop going to work.

00:08:09.640 I think actually it has much more to do with the first argument he's trying to make to debunk

00:08:14.460 his critics.

00:08:15.140 But the first argument actually proves that his critics were completely right because he

00:08:19.620 says, look, the reason I switched my opinion on the masks, you sheep, is because I believe 1.00

00:08:26.300 there was a shortage of masks.

00:08:28.840 Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

00:08:29.760 So you're telling me that your professed opinion about the masks, actually, your opinion on

00:08:37.020 the efficacy of the masks had nothing to do with what you thought about the efficacy of

00:08:42.580 the masks and it had everything to do with who you thought deserved the masks, right?

00:08:47.660 He's saying, he's saying, he's actually said this almost verbatim. 0.98

00:08:50.500 I wanted to preserve the masks for the healthcare workers, not for you dumb peasant sheep, right? 1.00

00:08:56.980 He's almost verbatim, not quite. 0.96

00:08:58.400 A few words here, I've taken some liberties.

00:09:00.600 That's a political stance.

00:09:03.360 That's not, it's, it's not only is it not scientific, it's actually worse than that.

00:09:08.500 He, he was lying to you.

00:09:10.600 According to what he's saying right now, he was lying to you about his opinion on the efficacy

00:09:16.140 of the masks so that he would persuade you not to wear the masks, even though he thought

00:09:20.760 the masks were good because he wanted to save those good masks that he thought were effective

00:09:26.200 for his buddies in the healthcare industry.

00:09:28.900 That's much worse.

00:09:30.120 But regardless, clearly in, in his own line of thinking, the, the science did not change

00:09:36.360 so much as the politics changed.

00:09:38.560 And when he found out there were enough masks for all you peasant sheep, then he told you 1.00

00:09:41.980 they were effective and that you should wear them and actually you had to wear them.

00:09:46.980 So he comes out swinging against his critics in a very impotent way, a way that might, if

00:09:53.460 you're just listening to a fast talking politician, you're not paying very close attention.

00:09:57.440 Probably you wouldn't hear how hollow his argument is and actually how much he, how he's actually

00:10:01.300 undermining his own argument.

00:10:02.980 But then after he's striking out at his critics, like me, the, I've noticed he also tries to temper

00:10:09.420 his voice now.

00:10:10.100 He tries to sound a little less Brooklyn-y, but you're not going to escape, Dr. Fauci. 0.55

00:10:14.900 That's your voice, my friend.

00:10:16.780 So not only does he strike back at the opponents, then he goes on Chelsea Clinton's podcast to

00:10:24.840 play the victim.

00:10:26.100 How do you think we rebuild trust in science and especially trust in, in vaccines and vaccinations?

00:10:32.860 That is something that is not going to happen easily.

00:10:35.360 Chelsea, I think that we may have to find ways, and that's a complicated issue, as you all

00:10:42.160 know, probably better than I do.

00:10:43.920 It's a complicated issue of how you heal the differences and the hostility.

00:10:51.060 I mean, I've been the object myself of a phenomenal amount of hostility merely because I'm promoting

00:10:56.960 what are really fundamental, simple public health principles.

00:11:00.160 That seems astounding that that would generate a considerable degree of hostility, but it

00:11:05.720 is, it is.

00:11:07.040 But it is.

00:11:08.160 What did I do?

00:11:09.040 I just lied to you? 1.00

00:11:10.520 I just, by my own admission, lied to you, stupid peasant sheep, and shut down the whole 1.00

00:11:16.020 world for no reason? 1.00

00:11:17.260 Why are people upset at me?

00:11:18.640 It's a, it's just a basic public health principle.

00:11:22.020 First of all, actually, before we get into Dr. Fauci's argument here, I need to make the

00:11:27.540 observation.

00:11:29.240 Chelsea Clinton has a podcast?

00:11:33.880 I am calling for a complete and total shutdown of all podcasts until we figure out what the

00:11:42.140 hell is going on.

00:11:43.200 Chelsea Clinton does not need a podcast. 1.00

00:11:45.720 Nobody is asking for that.

00:11:47.260 Okay, it's gone too far.

00:11:49.560 All right, I say this as, I have a podcast, obviously, you're listening to that podcast

00:11:52.780 right now.

00:11:53.960 It's too much, guys.

00:11:55.360 It's, there's too many.

00:11:56.300 If Chelsea Clinton has one, we gotta, that's it. 1.00

00:11:59.180 We gotta pull the plug.

00:12:00.240 We gotta shut it down.

00:12:01.360 Okay.

00:12:02.560 Back to Dr. Fauci's argument.

00:12:04.820 He's made this point elsewhere.

00:12:06.380 And actually, I go into great length on, on this point.

00:12:09.760 In my upcoming book, Speechless Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available now for

00:12:12.280 pre-order.

00:12:12.720 Yeah, actually, the ding came in even before I said it.

00:12:15.500 That's how used to this we are getting.

00:12:18.040 Thank you, by the way, to everyone who has pre-ordered that book.

00:12:20.660 We've got some copies out there now, some sort of pre-ordered review copies that have

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00:12:26.980 People are starting to read it.

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00:12:30.080 We'll talk about this little aspect right now, though, on the show.

00:12:32.420 So, Dr. Fauci said, almost in these words, I'm paraphrasing only slightly, I have never

00:12:38.420 had a political opinion that I have made public in my life.

00:12:42.840 I just focus on the science.

00:12:45.760 Now, what he, this is incoherent.

00:12:47.760 It just shows that he, he knows less about politics than he does about science.

00:12:52.380 Significantly less, actually.

00:12:53.620 Anyway, anything this man does in his professional life is political because he's in a public

00:12:59.940 role, and that's what public means.

00:13:02.100 Moreover, when he says, wear the masks, that's a political statement.

00:13:08.240 Even further, when he says some people should get the masks and other people should not get

00:13:12.220 the masks, that's a political statement.

00:13:14.000 But what he is representing is something the left has done for a hundred years, which is

00:13:18.720 redefining politics out of politics, saying that you cannot have a legitimate disagreement.

00:13:24.080 It's just Dr. Fauci.

00:13:25.260 It's just follow the science.

00:13:26.820 Gotta, we gotta shut down the world?

00:13:28.340 Well, that's just the science.

00:13:29.440 Sorry, we have to.

00:13:30.360 We've gotta put you out of business?

00:13:31.700 Well, that's just the science.

00:13:32.480 We gotta shut down your church? 0.99

00:13:33.680 But we gotta keep the marijuana shop open?

00:13:35.500 Well, look, that's just the science, okay?

00:13:36.920 We've just got to do that.

00:13:38.800 It's not, of course.

00:13:39.620 It's politics.

00:13:40.240 But what they are saying, and you're hearing this louder and louder on issue after issue,

00:13:46.180 not just here on COVID, but on immigration, on abortion, on transing the kids, we're being

00:13:51.500 told it is not acceptable for you to have a political opinion.

00:13:57.120 If your opinion contradicts Dr. Fauci, then unfortunately, you've got to go with Dr. Fauci.

00:14:05.600 You've got to go with the established science.

00:14:07.080 Now, what's good is the Republican lawmakers are fighting back because Dr. Fauci, he'll

00:14:13.540 go on all these shows and he'll play the victim to the world's smallest violin and he'll yell

00:14:16.880 and scream about Rand Paul or whoever, those of us in the media who have criticized him.

00:14:22.420 But he won't answer one really tough question that Republican lawmakers are nailing him on.

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00:15:51.620 Dr. Fauci will go on all the shows, and MSNBC, and CNN, and cry and whine about how everyone's

00:15:57.180 criticizing him.

00:15:58.000 He, the most powerful politician in the country, who's outlasted, what, how many presidents

00:16:03.100 at this point?

00:16:03.600 Since Ronald Reagan, the guy's been in office, making major national policy over the past

00:16:07.460 two years, but we're not allowed to criticize him.

00:16:09.340 Poor Dr. Fauci, boo-hoo-hoo.

00:16:11.220 Well, top Republicans on the House Oversight and Judiciary Committees are demanding that

00:16:17.220 he give them the answer to a very specific question.

00:16:19.100 Not the masks, not the whatever he said on 60 Minutes, not that.

00:16:23.200 More specific.

00:16:24.760 I want to read this letter at some length, because there are four parts to this letter,

00:16:30.100 and they're really important here, okay?

00:16:33.120 Because Fauci has not given an answer on this, and I don't think he can give an answer, because

00:16:36.660 I think the answer will make him look really, really bad.

00:16:38.720 Here's the first part.

00:16:41.840 House Republicans remain concerned about the origins of COVID-19, including the increasing

00:16:46.180 possibility that it originated and subsequently leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology

00:16:50.700 in China.

00:16:51.280 At a 2012 conference entitled, Gain-of-Function Research on HPA1-HSN1 Viruses, you said, quote,

00:16:59.160 What historically investigators have done is to actually create gain-of-function by making

00:17:04.620 mutations, passage adoption, or other genetic techniques, such as reverse genetics.

00:17:09.860 So I'm going to pause there.

00:17:11.140 First part is, because this is a big debate, did Dr. Fauci, did the NIH support gain-of-function

00:17:18.000 research?

00:17:18.400 Gain-of-function research is very controversial.

00:17:20.460 It's where you beef up naturally occurring viruses to make them deadlier, to make them

00:17:24.300 more transmissible.

00:17:25.680 Why on earth people would do this?

00:17:26.900 Well, I don't know, to create bioweapons, I guess.

00:17:28.900 I mean, I don't, there's very little function beyond that.

00:17:32.440 Now, what Dr. Fauci has said when he's defended this research is, no, it's actually good because

00:17:36.100 then we learn how to protect against the insane viruses that we're making.

00:17:39.320 And you think, well, just don't make it in the first place.

00:17:40.780 Okay.

00:17:41.200 So the first thing they're establishing in this letter is, this is what gain-of-function

00:17:45.700 research is.

00:17:46.400 In your own words, this is what it is.

00:17:49.200 This is how you make it.

00:17:50.240 Okay.

00:17:51.020 They go on.

00:17:52.240 In 2014, you, through the National Institutes of Health, awarded EcoHealth Alliance a grant

00:17:56.860 entitled Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence, this grant allowed EcoHealth to

00:18:01.880 quote, test predictions of coronavirus transmission using reverse genetics.

00:18:07.760 Stop there.

00:18:09.500 You're denying, Dr. Fauci, that you have anything to do with funding this kind of research and

00:18:14.100 the gain-of-function and the bat coronavirus is okay.

00:18:16.420 Here's your definition of what gain-of-function is.

00:18:19.680 Here is a grant that you guys awarded for this kind of research.

00:18:27.080 Third part, funds from this grant were subsequently awarded to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:18:32.700 Using your own definition, it appears that the NIH funded gain-of-function research at the

00:18:40.060 Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:18:41.620 Okay.

00:18:45.600 You see, very methodical here.

00:18:48.320 Dr. Fauci is outright denied.

00:18:49.760 We didn't, not only did we not fund this kind of research, we certainly didn't fund this

00:18:53.120 kind of research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:18:55.500 The kind of research that almost certainly is the cause of shutting down the entire world

00:19:00.220 and curtailing a lot of our political rights and upending global economies and societies

00:19:04.680 for the past year and a half.

00:19:06.520 The House Republicans are proving, no, you did that.

00:19:08.540 According to your own definitions, you did that.

00:19:11.580 And then finally, on May 11th, 2021, while testifying under oath, you stated the NIH has

00:19:17.340 not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:19:23.560 This appears to contradict your 2012 statement regarding gain-of-function research in the

00:19:27.620 Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:19:29.020 Nailed it.

00:19:29.640 Got it.

00:19:30.000 That's it.

00:19:30.600 You know, we focus on the things he's said in public and the masks and the things that

00:19:34.620 really impact us day in and day out.

00:19:38.500 Okay.

00:19:38.900 And then he tries to weasel his way out of it.

00:19:40.840 Weasel your way out of that, buddy.

00:19:43.020 I'm so glad that the House Republicans have put this out there.

00:19:46.840 He's not going to answer it and this is going to get buried in the media.

00:19:50.100 Don't let them bury it.

00:19:51.160 Remember it.

00:19:51.740 Save this clip.

00:19:52.540 Save this video.

00:19:54.680 They got him on it.

00:19:56.180 And there need to be consequences for that.

00:19:59.420 Is it lock him up, lock him up, throw him in jail?

00:20:01.420 I don't know.

00:20:01.720 I don't know if he committed a crime.

00:20:04.060 I suspect he actually didn't commit a crime. 1.00

00:20:05.460 I suspect we just have stupid rules in this country and stupid bureaucrats running our 1.00

00:20:11.480 world in a way that shuts down the whole thing. 1.00

00:20:15.320 I mean, I think it was, who was it?

00:20:17.340 It was some very famous conservative who said that modernity is bureaucracy tempered by incompetence.

00:20:25.260 That's what Dr. Fauci is giving us.

00:20:28.640 But surely there needs to be a professional consequence for this.

00:20:30.880 Surely the man must be fired.

00:20:34.740 Who is defending the truth?

00:20:38.940 Who is the science?

00:20:40.480 Who is defending the truth?

00:20:41.720 Certainly not our schools.

00:20:44.440 The very least schools should be defending truth, right?

00:20:46.520 But no, the kind of incompetence that we're seeing from Dr. Fauci and we're seeing from

00:20:52.240 the broad public health establishment that not only is terrible at its job, but actually

00:20:58.400 doesn't even know what its job is.

00:20:59.900 Can't even make sense of the distinction between science and politics.

00:21:03.700 Well, starting in schools.

00:21:06.260 There is an elite middle school in New York City right now.

00:21:08.900 It's the lab middle school. 0.54

00:21:11.300 Very, very well known to New Yorkers.

00:21:14.120 This middle school is getting rid of leveled math courses.

00:21:18.580 You remember this when you were in school.

00:21:21.360 Certainly high school, middle school, even elementary school.

00:21:23.920 Some kids are just a little smarter than other kids.

00:21:27.780 Okay?

00:21:28.260 That's just a fact.

00:21:29.320 It's a natural fact.

00:21:31.060 And you can either encourage people's strengths and talents or you can discourage people's

00:21:36.900 strengths and talents.

00:21:38.580 And for the history of education, we have encouraged people's strengths, right?

00:21:44.100 If you're good at math, you're going to be in the enrichment math class.

00:21:46.880 If you're good at some language, maybe you'll be in the advanced language class.

00:21:52.220 You're good at history, you'll be in the advanced placement history class.

00:21:55.380 But this creates a real problem for our egalitarian democracy of equity and whatever slogan they

00:22:02.880 have today because that means that the slower kids are not going to be in that class.

00:22:08.460 It's going to create a sort of hierarchy.

00:22:10.260 It's going to create gradations.

00:22:11.880 Okay?

00:22:12.820 And oh, heaven forfend if members of a certain group are in one class and members of another

00:22:20.200 group are in another, especially if this involves sex and most especially if this involves

00:22:24.060 race.

00:22:25.640 If all those Asian kids are in the math class, oh my gosh, that's wrong. 1.00

00:22:32.640 It's bigoted.

00:22:33.420 Because what happens if there are disproportionately more white and Asian kids in the advanced math

00:22:39.240 class?

00:22:39.600 And what happens if there are disproportionately less, say, black or Latino or any other kind

00:22:45.040 of kid in those classes?

00:22:46.500 Well, now this is an issue of white supremacy and including the Asians.

00:22:50.200 Somehow the Asians are white, I guess. 1.00

00:22:51.320 And this is a matter of bigotry. 0.97

00:22:53.240 And we've just got to get rid of the classes.

00:22:57.540 They haven't given an explanation for why they're doing it, but they're doing it at this

00:23:01.320 school.

00:23:01.580 And you're seeing this happen more and more.

00:23:03.220 When I was in school, we had valedictorians.

00:23:06.900 When I was in school, we had class presidents.

00:23:10.020 I don't know.

00:23:10.260 When I was in school, we had these sorts of distinctions between people.

00:23:13.760 And then I started to notice after I graduated, they started to get rid of these things.

00:23:17.180 At many, many high schools, many other schools, colleges, middle schools, no longer are there

00:23:24.040 valedictorians at many schools.

00:23:25.280 Because if someone's a valedictorian, then a lot of people are not the valedictorian.

00:23:29.040 And that's going to make people feel bad.

00:23:31.300 And it's probably unjust, you know.

00:23:33.340 If someone's the class president, someone else isn't.

00:23:35.780 And that's not fair, right?

00:23:37.220 What we're seeing is reminiscent of a story by Kurt Vonnegut called Harrison Bergeron,

00:23:42.220 which it's actually been quite a while since I've read it.

00:23:44.720 The premise of the story is in this dystopic future, you've got a world in which everybody

00:23:52.220 needs to be brought down to the lowest common denominator.

00:23:55.720 It's not that some people do really well and so we're going to try to bring people up and

00:23:58.740 encourage other people to have either that same talent or other talents and encourage

00:24:02.220 diversity, right?

00:24:03.880 No.

00:24:04.740 Everybody has to be handicapped. 1.00

00:24:06.460 Everybody has to be crippled. 0.94

00:24:07.680 Everybody has to be brought down to the lowest possible level.

00:24:11.160 And that way we will have equality.

00:24:13.160 This is a distinction between modern liberalism and classical conservatism, call it.

00:24:20.600 Okay.

00:24:20.760 In the classical conservative view of things, there is excellence.

00:24:25.860 And some people are going to have greater excellence than others.

00:24:28.480 And some people are going to have greater talent at some things than other things.

00:24:32.760 You know, I know I look like a hulking football player, but actually that isn't where I am

00:24:37.400 most excellent.

00:24:38.500 But I have other talents and so do you and so does everybody.

00:24:41.440 And those are the sorts of things we encourage.

00:24:43.600 There is virtue.

00:24:44.640 There is order.

00:24:46.320 Some people are going to be picked first for the baseball team.

00:24:49.720 Some people are going to be picked last for the baseball team.

00:24:52.040 Some people are going to do very well on their SAT.

00:24:54.680 Some people are not going to do very well on their SAT.

00:24:56.440 And it's not because of injustice exactly.

00:24:59.380 It's not because of the systemic problem.

00:25:01.640 It's just because, you know, some people are a little smarter.

00:25:04.500 Some people are a little taller.

00:25:05.800 Some people have a little bit more muscle.

00:25:07.380 We're not all exactly the same.

00:25:09.800 But modern liberalism is leveling, degrading, egalitarian.

00:25:14.640 Equity is the name of the game. 0.97

00:25:16.820 Not even just on sports or something.

00:25:20.120 Not even just in terms of the math classes.

00:25:23.260 Not even just within the sexes.

00:25:25.600 But actually, men and women, we are told with a completely straight face by these leveling,

00:25:31.160 equity-obsessed modern libs, men and women have to be exactly the same.

00:25:36.940 When a man puts on a dress and runs a track race, there is nothing unusual about that.

00:25:46.380 And one should not find anything wrong with that.

00:25:49.360 And because the girls have just the same chance, because men and women are exactly the same.

00:25:52.320 Oh, the man wins every single time?

00:25:53.860 Well, he's a woman. 0.91

00:25:55.060 So there's nothing surprising here.

00:25:57.460 It's so degrading.

00:25:59.900 And they do it in the name of justice, but of course, it results in a great injustice.

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00:26:43.800 Radical egalitarianism is the name of the game these days.

00:26:59.680 Equity is the term.

00:27:00.940 But it's not equity to bring everybody up.

00:27:04.140 It's equity to bring everybody down.

00:27:06.640 It's an equity and egalitarianism that does not recognize certain distinct...

00:27:10.840 It doesn't even recognize the distinction between nations.

00:27:13.480 It doesn't even recognize that the government of the United States has a special duty to its own citizens.

00:27:19.580 No, because that's not equal.

00:27:22.020 It's not egalitarian.

00:27:23.460 What about the poor Nicaraguans?

00:27:26.180 Well, I don't know.

00:27:26.760 I mean, we can give them charity.

00:27:27.860 We can be nice to Nicaragua.

00:27:29.700 But the new view is, no, the government of the United States has just as much of a responsibility to foreigners as it does to its own citizens.

00:27:39.280 It erases even the idea of a nation.

00:27:41.640 Joe Biden just showed this today.

00:27:42.900 He showed this because he's meeting with European leaders next week, and he is already telling us that he is going to drop U.S. protective tariffs on steel and aluminum.

00:27:54.880 Now, this is an issue that has divided the right because for really only the past 20 or so years, not even, there's been this free trade absolutism.

00:28:04.980 There's this idea that tariffs never work.

00:28:07.140 Tariffs are anti-conservative. 0.99

00:28:09.740 And this is just historically ridiculous.

00:28:11.260 The Republican Party was founded on tariffs. 0.86

00:28:13.860 Okay, Abraham Lincoln said, give me a tariff.

00:28:15.780 I'll give you the greatest nation on earth.

00:28:17.300 The Republican Party was always the protective party, the pro-tariff party.

00:28:22.220 The conservative movement was pro-tariff until the latter part of the 20th century.

00:28:25.840 And there are plenty of good reasons to get rid of some tariffs, but they're instrumental reasons.

00:28:29.560 There is no universe in which tariffs are anti-conservative, you know, just as a general principle, as an eternal truth.

00:28:37.940 That has never been the case.

00:28:39.540 But here's some more evidence of it.

00:28:42.880 Who are the presidents in recent memory most well-known for instituting steel tariffs?

00:28:51.520 Trump and Reagan.

00:28:52.780 Trump and Reagan, they're the two, they're the two presidents.

00:28:54.840 The two most conservative presidents that we've had in 100 years at least are the two presidents who instituted the steel tariffs and now Joe Biden getting rid of it.

00:29:03.640 Why is he getting rid of it?

00:29:04.760 Well, to answer that question, you had to ask, why did we have the steel tariffs in the first place?

00:29:09.040 Why do we use tariffs at all?

00:29:10.420 We use tariffs because the idea of absolute free trade just doesn't exist.

00:29:15.880 I loved this question that Trump asked when some of the squishy types were yelling at him for even suggesting the use of tariffs.

00:29:22.000 He said, if your argument is that tariffs don't work, okay, if tariffs don't work, why does every other country use them?

00:29:30.220 If tariffs, they actually hurt your own country.

00:29:32.540 If tariffs are so self-destructive and they never achieve anything, how come every other country on earth has them except for us?

00:29:38.940 And actually, we have them too.

00:29:40.940 But you're just sort of pretending that we don't.

00:29:42.640 Because they obviously do work to achieve certain objectives.

00:29:46.860 They work as a matter of leverage to get other countries to lower their tariffs, which is better for our economy.

00:29:51.860 And they work to protect our industries, certain American workers who can be protected by those sorts of tariffs.

00:29:58.800 In this specific case of steel tariffs, why are we instituting it here?

00:30:02.300 Because China is cheating. 0.80

00:30:04.080 China is illegally subsidizing its steel and aluminum industries.

00:30:07.880 China's share of global crude steel production increased in the year 2020 from 53.3% to 56.6%.

00:30:17.080 Now, we don't really import steel from China.

00:30:20.160 But the problem is that China's overproduction of steel in violation of treaties depresses the price of steel on the global market and it hurts our steel manufacturers.

00:30:30.600 Okay, and there are other issues with this as well.

00:30:32.600 But Joe Biden's getting rid of these tariffs.

00:30:34.320 The allegedly, you know, least conservative thing in the world.

00:30:38.720 Well, you know, Joe Biden doesn't seem to agree with that assessment that so many conservatives have of tariffs.

00:30:43.720 So, he's getting rid of the tariffs because, well, it's not fair.

00:30:48.100 It's not fair to these other countries.

00:30:49.620 Look, yeah, maybe it's better for us.

00:30:51.140 Maybe it's better for our industry.

00:30:52.340 Maybe it's better for our workers.

00:30:53.400 But, you know, that's not nice to China.

00:30:55.600 And Joe Biden, man, that guy's been cheering on China's rise for decades at this point, explicitly.

00:31:00.000 It makes us rethink certain things, not just on economic matters, not just on trade deals, for instance, or tariffs, but on immigration.

00:31:12.520 The Department of Homeland Security was created by Bush II after 9-11, brought together a number of different departments.

00:31:22.800 And what DHS is focused on right now, what it's supposed to be focused on, is keeping foreigners who cross into this country illegally out of the country.

00:31:30.480 Okay, that's one of the main focuses, if not the main focus, of the Department of Homeland Security.

00:31:36.520 But the new radical Secretary of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas, says that actually, the foremost priority of DHS is the dignity of the illegal aliens.

00:31:49.280 I grew up with a very strong sense of my identity as a refugee and what it means to be displaced fundamentally in one's life.

00:32:01.200 And so I asked, when we were, in fact, confronting difficult policy questions, the question of identity.

00:32:09.960 What, as we struggle to reach an answer, what would the answer say about who we are and who we want to be?

00:32:16.620 And I think that there are two foundational or guiding principles that really drive the answer.

00:32:25.540 One is the concept or actually the element of dignity, and the other is the rule of law.

00:32:35.400 Those are two foundational guideposts.

00:32:39.920 In that word salad, is this guy ever going to give a direct answer?

00:33:04.020 He does, you just got to read between the lines.

00:33:05.960 He says, the things that guide us are dignity, dignity, and the rule of law.

00:33:13.580 Now, he's trying to put these things against one another because he's not talking about the dignity of the American people.

00:33:19.100 He's not talking about the dignity of the American immigration system.

00:33:22.540 He's not talking about the dignity of our borders.

00:33:24.200 He's talking about the dignity of criminals, foreigners, who enter our country illegally and flout our laws is the first thing they do here. 1.00

00:33:33.800 That's not a dignified act, but he's saying that has dignity.

00:33:36.820 I thought about my identity as a refugee.

00:33:39.300 I want you to think about your identity as an American, and I want you to think about your identity as the director of Homeland Security.

00:33:45.520 And I want you to think about your identity as the enforcer of the rule of law.

00:33:52.780 When he says it's about dignity and the rule of law, what he's saying is it's about opening the floodgates, ignoring the rule of law, and only prioritizing the illegal alien. 0.97

00:34:01.020 And it comes from, I get where it comes from.

00:34:02.940 It comes from this radical egalitarian idea.

00:34:06.220 I feel it myself to some degree, or I can at least sympathize with this.

00:34:11.460 We live in a very rich country.

00:34:13.500 We live in a country, at least for now, that has relative political freedom and a generally pleasant political tradition, and nice communities, and lots of stuff, and lots of opportunity.

00:34:25.840 And other people don't live in those countries, and that's unfair, I guess, isn't it?

00:34:30.060 That's unfortunate, at least.

00:34:32.900 And so, if we recognize the dignity and the equity, then we've got to let them in.

00:34:38.020 We have to.

00:34:39.360 We have to.

00:34:40.180 So, even if that will substantially weaken our own country, radical egalitarianism, this is true overseas, too, not just to our neighbors in the South, even across the pond in the motherland.

00:34:52.520 There are some woke students at Oxford University right now who have voted to remove a portrait of Queen Elizabeth II from a common room at Magdalen College, a very famous place at Oxford,

00:35:03.980 because this represents the UK's colonial history, Queen Elizabeth, one of the most dignified people on planet Earth.

00:35:17.780 This woman has given her life to her country.

00:35:21.220 She has served and served and served.

00:35:24.660 She may be one of the most beloved people on Earth, but you see, the queen is not very egalitarian.

00:35:33.920 Because if there is such a thing as a queen, it's a poke in the eye. 0.98

00:35:38.220 It's just, it is the logical conclusion of the different math classes.

00:35:43.460 It's a recognition that different people are in different positions in life, and everybody is not going to be in exactly the same position.

00:35:51.040 You can try, by the way, and the only way you can try is just by bringing everybody down lower and lower and lower, which is what they're trying to do,

00:35:56.740 but you're still not going to get it.

00:35:58.260 Some people are still going to be better at math.

00:36:00.060 Some people are still going to be born with certain privileges.

00:36:01.860 We're all born with certain privileges.

00:36:03.420 Some people are still going to be born with certain disadvantages.

00:36:06.040 To some degree, you must accept your lot in life.

00:36:10.280 You must reconcile you, but we can't do that.

00:36:12.820 Even at the question of nature, we have now cartoons and kids' networks telling kids,

00:36:18.980 you don't have to accept anything about your lot in life, including your biology, including nature.

00:36:23.500 You can break that too.

00:36:24.860 You see here, very often in this country, we try to posit liberty, emancipation, and equality as opposites.

00:36:34.420 The way that the political debate has worked for a long time in this country is that the right stands for liberty,

00:36:39.020 and the left stands for equality, and these two things are in conflict with one another.

00:36:43.040 But actually, they both work together quite well.

00:36:45.200 Well, the goal here for the radicals, for the liberals, even the liberals on the right,

00:36:51.280 is this perfect utopian equality.

00:36:55.340 And the way that we're going to get that equality is by emancipating, liberating people from their conditions.

00:36:59.520 That's why you hear this talk of liberation so much on the radical left, even among communists, right?

00:37:04.900 Even among actual Marxists, that is the ultimate liberation that comes at the end of the line here.

00:37:15.120 But reality reasserts itself.

00:37:19.900 Reality comes back in the end.

00:37:22.160 There's a poll, speaking of our friends across the pond,

00:37:24.980 poll, the majority of Britons support a ban on migrants seeking asylum.

00:37:31.080 So we're talking about even people seeking asylum, you know, safety plea.

00:37:36.120 This is what we're told now is all immigration is people fleeing political persecution,

00:37:39.820 but they're not usually economic migrants.

00:37:41.820 But the majority of people in Britain support a ban on migrants seeking asylum.

00:37:49.120 A ban, an outright ban, according to this poll.

00:37:52.280 Do you think that the government of Great Britain is going to follow that?

00:37:56.820 No.

00:37:57.660 But hold on a second here.

00:37:58.520 I thought that we had to defend democracy.

00:38:01.960 I thought we had to channel the will of the people.

00:38:04.020 You know, all this talk about our democracy, which Angelo Cotavilla points out is actually

00:38:09.720 just the elites referring to their oligarchy.

00:38:12.440 Our democracy means their oligarchy.

00:38:15.180 What about our democracy?

00:38:16.480 Well, our democracy in Great Britain says ban the migrants. 1.00

00:38:21.580 They won't do that.

00:38:23.220 The radicals don't particularly care for democracy.

00:38:26.360 There's another poll here in the United States.

00:38:28.240 It's majority of voters in the United States support abortion restrictions after 15 weeks.

00:38:32.800 This was a poll released by the Susan B. Anthony list.

00:38:35.640 It founds majority of likely voters support these sorts of restrictions.

00:38:40.800 Do you think that the Supreme Court will recognize our democracy?

00:38:45.160 No, they're going to actually insist on a fictional constitutional right to abortion.

00:38:48.140 They made up in between the penumbras and the emanations. 0.80

00:38:50.040 Do you think even our legislators, frankly, do you think even our Republican legislators,

00:38:54.340 many of them are going to care about our democracy here on the abortion restrictions?

00:38:58.000 I don't.

00:38:58.800 I don't think they care about our democracy at all.

00:39:00.800 I think the left is actually quite antithetical to our democracy.

00:39:06.820 There's another poll.

00:39:07.560 You know how much I love polls.

00:39:09.040 I don't really buy polls, but when they support my opinions, I'll cite them.

00:39:12.360 There's a poll that shows, just out now, shows that liberals are more likely to unfriend

00:39:17.000 people over politics on social media and in real life, quote, Democrats are twice as likely

00:39:23.540 as Republicans to report having ended a friendship over a political disagreement.

00:39:29.220 20% of Democrats said they've ended a friendship over a political disagreement compared to 10%

00:39:33.280 of Republicans.

00:39:34.960 This is a survey from the American Survey Center.

00:39:38.100 It also found, quote, political liberals are far more likely than conservatives are to say

00:39:43.380 that they are no longer friends with someone due to political differences.

00:39:47.620 28% versus 10% respectively.

00:39:50.120 And then when you focus just on women, the number gets even more insane.

00:39:53.780 33% of liberal women have, quote, stopped being friends with someone because of their politics. 0.82

00:39:59.560 What about our democracy?

00:40:00.540 What about hearing all voices?

00:40:01.560 What about inclusion and diversity?

00:40:02.680 Of course, they don't believe in any of these sorts of things.

00:40:05.640 They have contempt for our democracy.

00:40:07.940 The same people who talk about our democracy are the ones who refer to our countrymen,

00:40:13.380 as bitter clingers, who cling to their guns and religion.

00:40:16.560 And the only reason they question insane trade deals is because they have resentment toward

00:40:21.480 immigrants or something.

00:40:22.300 And they're bitter and filled with grievance.

00:40:24.280 The same people who clamor on about our democracy are the ones who call their countrymen 0.91

00:40:28.740 deplorable and irredeemable.

00:40:31.220 They don't believe in this sort of thing at all.

00:40:32.840 This radical egalitarianism has nothing to do with the care for their actual countrymen.

00:40:40.540 Actually, they're dragging their countrymen, kicking and screaming into this dystopia.

00:40:46.620 In our democracy, you're not really allowed to question the government anymore, are you?

00:40:51.040 Are you?

00:40:51.840 On social media, if you raise a question about the 2020 election, if you point out that there

00:40:58.660 were a whole lot of irregularities, is that the term we're allowed to use?

00:41:02.460 There were a lot of irregularities there.

00:41:05.120 You could be banned.

00:41:06.960 You could be investigated, for goodness sakes.

00:41:09.920 There was a game at Fenway, the Red Sox ballpark.

00:41:14.780 And someone just unfurled it.

00:41:16.840 There's lots of flags and banners and signs.

00:41:19.140 Someone unfurls a little flag out there, out in left field.

00:41:22.960 It says, Trump won.

00:41:25.080 Trump won.

00:41:25.860 Okay.

00:41:26.360 Now, this is an unobjectionable statement, first of all.

00:41:29.660 Certainly, he won in 2016.

00:41:31.000 No, I guess you're not.

00:41:31.960 Actually, I'm sorry.

00:41:32.920 I've been told by Hillary Clinton and by the entire leftist establishment, all the media

00:41:38.320 and everybody.

00:41:38.920 I've actually been told Trump lost that election and he stole it.

00:41:41.400 Remember, Trump's not a legitimate president, according to them.

00:41:43.680 So I guess you're allowed to question that election, but you're not allowed to question

00:41:46.180 this election, which was far more vulnerable to fraud.

00:41:50.400 That fan was ejected from the game.

00:41:52.980 You're not allowed to say that.

00:41:54.780 You're not allowed to question the government.

00:41:56.360 In our democracy, and by the way, the people who are the enforcers of this are not always

00:42:03.520 from the government.

00:42:05.300 They're from the broad blob as well, but you're not allowed to question it.

00:42:08.660 So much for democracy.

00:42:11.760 Our democracy types are actually not only disdainful of their fellow countrymen.

00:42:17.840 They're actually willing to attack basic elements of our actual constitutional democracy.

00:42:25.000 There was an LA Times columnist, Virginia Heffernan, who just made a pretty radical suggestion

00:42:31.920 about people who exercise their Second Amendment rights, very basic civil rights in this country.

00:42:37.300 She said,

00:42:37.760 We don't need to rehash the obvious points that what she thinks an assault rifle is is not

00:43:02.020 actually an assault rifle, and yada, yada, yada.

00:43:04.240 You get it.

00:43:05.240 I want to focus on Nicole here.

00:43:06.820 She's asking that the addresses of gun owners be published, making them targets, making them 0.99

00:43:14.740 targets for burglary, making them targets for ostracism, making them targets for violence,

00:43:18.460 for exercising a very basic right.

00:43:21.120 The Journal News, actually, where I grew up in New York, did this some years ago.

00:43:25.660 They published lists of the addresses where gun owners live, the places that these gun owners

00:43:31.040 are.

00:43:32.520 I don't even just want to focus on that.

00:43:34.300 I want to focus on the divergence between what she's suggesting and reality.

00:43:38.680 She's saying, we need to redefine what a bad neighborhood is.

00:43:41.560 And now we're going to define a bad neighborhood as places where people have AR-15s. 0.96

00:43:47.060 The problem with that is, those aren't bad neighborhoods.

00:43:53.320 People have AR-15s in good neighborhoods. 0.94

00:43:55.580 AR-15s are just not used in very many crimes.

00:43:59.000 Very, very few.

00:44:00.120 This is a well-trodden out statistic.

00:44:02.960 It's almost become tedious.

00:44:04.440 More people are killed each year with bats and hammers and clubs and fists than they are

00:44:08.100 with rifles of any kind, including the dread AR-15.

00:44:11.220 Now, guns are involved in some crimes, much more often pistols.

00:44:17.640 That's much more often, not in the Trump counties, okay?

00:44:20.860 It's more often in Chicago and Detroit and Washington, D.C. and New York and Los Angeles.

00:44:26.800 Not places that are voting for Donald Trump.

00:44:28.560 Not places that are great defenders of their Second Amendment rights.

00:44:32.000 Not places that are buying the AR-15s.

00:44:33.840 Actually, this woman has undermined her own argument here. 0.97

00:44:39.060 She's saying that all these places, you know, out in the country where people have AR-15s,

00:44:42.520 those are the bad neighborhoods.

00:44:43.600 They're not.

00:44:44.000 We know they're not.

00:44:45.180 They're nice neighborhoods, actually.

00:44:46.900 People like to go there.

00:44:47.700 They have high real estate prices, okay?

00:44:51.200 And they're not even, you know, some places, you know, if you go to a city, for instance,

00:44:54.420 there'll be high real estate prices depending on what neighborhood you're in.

00:44:57.600 But there's so much economic opportunity and you're making a lot of money

00:45:00.180 and there's lots of social services and high taxes and all.

00:45:03.000 But we're talking about places that are just sort of nice, you know,

00:45:05.800 that people actually would like to go to.

00:45:08.260 It's not true.

00:45:08.640 You can't just redefine reality that way.

00:45:11.000 The left loves redefining reality.

00:45:12.820 That's sort of the central premise of my upcoming book,

00:45:14.920 Speechless Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, which is available.

00:45:17.000 You can get a signed first edition copy at Premier Collectibles.

00:45:19.500 Book's coming out in two weeks, at which point I will not be able to say it's available for pre-order.

00:45:23.660 It will just be available for order.

00:45:25.140 Speaking of bad neighborhoods, Kamala Harris just made what I think is her best argument 0.99

00:45:30.880 for these radical immigration policies.

00:45:35.280 I don't think it's a good argument, but I think it's her best argument.

00:45:37.320 So I want to take it seriously.

00:45:39.400 It's not about quid pro quo.

00:45:41.100 It's simply about understanding, if nothing else, that the return on our investment

00:45:46.100 is the same return on your investment that if you have a neighbor on your block where you grew up

00:45:51.880 who's having a hard time, it's in the best interest not only of your neighbor but yourself

00:45:58.060 to help them out, right?

00:46:00.720 And that's how we think about this work.

00:46:03.760 What is the United States' interest in this?

00:46:06.140 We're prepared to show up and do it in a way that is motivated

00:46:10.240 by the best interest of diplomacy and democracy and goodwill.

00:46:15.760 So this is a very different view of foreign policy than Donald Trump's.

00:46:20.420 Donald Trump's was, we're going to do things that benefit America.

00:46:24.080 This was common sense until very recently.

00:46:26.560 Our foreign policy is to benefit our country, be in the national interest.

00:46:31.200 Kamala's view is we need to have a foreign policy that promotes global democracy,

00:46:35.880 sort of liberal imperialism.

00:46:38.560 But why?

00:46:40.640 Why?

00:46:41.120 I understand the argument if she says, it's in our interest for Guatemala to be a better country.

00:46:46.500 It's in our interest for Guatemala to be more flourishing, to have a better economy.

00:46:50.620 Okay, I get that.

00:46:52.400 Why is it in our interest for Guatemala to be more democratic?

00:46:56.760 How is that in our interest?

00:46:59.960 There are plenty of democracies that collapse and fall and fail.

00:47:03.860 And then all those migrants are going to keep coming over. 1.00

00:47:06.800 Why democracy?

00:47:08.700 Why democracy even at the same time that Kamala and her Democrat friends 1.00

00:47:14.740 undermine our democracy, right?

00:47:17.680 Democracy is full of deplorables and irredeemables and bitter clingers.

00:47:21.980 What the left has done is try to remove those democratic elements

00:47:24.700 and give all the power to the Dr. Fauci's of the world.

00:47:27.240 But so we're undermining democracy at home, but we're promoting democracy abroad.

00:47:31.280 Why?

00:47:31.680 It's totally incoherent.

00:47:33.880 Because what they mean by our democracy is not our democracy.

00:47:37.940 When conservatives participate in our democracy, it is considered illegitimate.

00:47:42.360 I'll give you an example very timely for during our Pride Month.

00:47:47.420 We'll begin, we'll end where we began with drag queens. 1.00

00:47:50.480 Because Laverne Cox, who is a man who wears a dress, just gave an interview to Variety

00:47:55.420 talking about how important it is that we trans all the kids.

00:47:58.400 He said, quote, what they're trying to do, what they, the conservatives, are trying to do

00:48:02.140 is to dehumanize these children, which is so heartbreaking.

00:48:06.260 It's really heartbreaking when you see the way they're talking,

00:48:08.960 the fervor with which they're going after these kids.

00:48:10.920 In the face of that, we insist on the humanity of everyone,

00:48:14.840 insist on the humanity of trans people, in particular, of trans children.

00:48:17.380 Of course, it's the opposite. 0.62

00:48:18.900 The transgenderists are the ones trying to dehumanize children. 1.00

00:48:21.540 They're trying to get the children to deny their human nature

00:48:23.440 and to pretend that they are women when they're men and men when they're women, vice versa. 0.81

00:48:29.020 They are, they are quite literally, quite specifically, dehumanizing the kids.

00:48:33.240 Cox goes on.

00:48:34.340 A few years ago, it was all about the bathrooms, right?

00:48:36.700 There were a slew of bills all over the country attacking trans people in the bathroom.

00:48:41.080 Now, right, who, pause there.

00:48:43.180 Who were the aggressors in this culture war?

00:48:45.260 We had a men's room and a ladies' room.

00:48:48.800 Then the left got upset with that and said, no, men have to be able to use the ladies' room. 1.00

00:48:52.100 And Republicans said, no, they can't.

00:48:53.260 And now that's called the aggression.

00:48:54.760 And he says, it was about trying to make trans people not exist.

00:48:58.100 Let me not put too fine a point on it. 0.96

00:49:00.360 Trans people do not exist. 1.00

00:49:02.040 It's not a thing.

00:49:02.960 Do you know who does exist?

00:49:04.060 Men who have a psychological condition where they think that they're women.

00:49:07.520 Those guys exist.

00:49:08.840 I suppose deserve our sympathy and certainly deserve our compassion and our help.

00:49:13.060 Do you know who does exist?

00:49:13.840 Men who very much want to be women because they have some sexual preference that way.

00:49:17.740 That certainly exists.

00:49:18.620 But trans people, the idea of a man who then becomes a woman, that does not exist.

00:49:22.740 That is a fake thing.

00:49:23.880 And if you deny that that exists, as virtually everyone for all of human history everywhere does,

00:49:30.020 if you make this obvious point, if you just hold to the truth, right?

00:49:33.960 You just said it's basic truth.

00:49:35.520 That's deemed illegitimate and out of our democracy.

00:49:39.040 Beyond the limits of our democracy.

00:49:40.960 So much for our democracy.

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The Michael Knowles Show - June 10, 2021

Ep. 782 - Don’t Be “True To You”

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