The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 787 - The Real Threat

00:00:00.000 Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin met yesterday in Geneva for their first sit-down

00:00:06.040 since Joe took office. And after years of Democrats attacking President Trump for

00:00:11.220 allegedly going too easy on Russia, Joe Biden really let Putin have a piece of his mind.

00:00:17.100 Yeah, that's right. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Joe had a clear message for Putin.

00:00:23.000 If you're going to attack our critical infrastructure,

00:00:26.620 you better make sure you only attack some of it.

00:00:29.480 Another area we spent a great deal of time on was cyber and cybersecurity. I talked about the

00:00:36.620 proposition that certain critical infrastructure should be off limits to attack, period, by cyber

00:00:42.680 or any other means. I gave them a list. If I'm not mistaken, I don't have it in front of me, 16

00:00:47.780 specific entities, 16 defined as critical infrastructure under U.S. policy.

00:00:54.360 Yeah. Number 17, you can blow that thing to smithereens. By those 16, no way. Joe

00:01:00.120 actually went harder at a CNN reporter during this trip than he did at Putin. Because according to our

00:01:06.460 prevailing culture, the U.S. Congress, the social media, Victoria's Secret, it's Victoria's Secret,

00:01:12.560 the real threats we face don't come from our adversaries abroad. They come from racism,

00:01:17.540 sexism, and fat phobia. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:23.420 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from Trucker Pete, who says,

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00:03:17.580 Tough words from Joe Biden. Listen, Vlad. Listen, Vlad. Please, please only attack these 16. Oh,

00:03:26.020 please do not attack these 16 things. I'm sorry. It's confusing because when you tell our adversary

00:03:31.740 that these 16 things would be the absolute worst things to attack, please don't do it. What you are

00:03:38.620 in effect telling him is these are the 16 things you should focus on attacking. The irony, of course,

00:03:44.200 is that Donald Trump was tougher on Russia than any president since at least Ronald Reagan and maybe

00:03:51.340 going back even further. There's no question about it. He was much tougher than Obama or Bush for that

00:03:56.760 matter or Clinton or Bush too. And I guess Reagan would, you know, Reagan did destroy the Soviet 0.71

00:04:03.140 Union. So that would be the most recent one. But Trump was very, very tough. And what does Joe Biden

00:04:10.180 do when he comes into office? He starts removing some of those sanctions, some of those attacks.

00:04:17.700 He's giving Putin what he wants in certain areas of commerce and oil. And now he's saying you can

00:04:25.480 attack us and it won't really matter. Don't attack those 16 things. This is not just showing you the

00:04:35.780 U.S. and Russian relations under the different parties. It also shows you how the left negotiates.

00:04:41.560 When they're negotiating on behalf of the country, they negotiate from weakness. And this is the phrase

00:04:45.720 of Ronald Reagan, peace through strength. This is not a new concept, but the left is always, always

00:04:51.200 arguing from a position of weakness abroad when they're talking about the American nation. This

00:04:56.580 was a bad trip overall for Joe Biden. He just was testy. He was tired. He was weak. Joe Biden actually

00:05:04.140 was tougher on a CNN reporter, a CNN reporter who once a year, a CNN reporter asks a sort of almost fair

00:05:11.880 question of the president of the Democrat president. And he can't take that. They all have to be soft

00:05:19.160 bowls. They all have to be, what kind of ice cream are you eating, Joe? The minute he gets a tough

00:05:22.260 question, he snaps. He went tougher on her than he did on Putin. I'm not going to walk away on this.

00:05:28.000 Why are you so confident he'll change his behavior, Mr. President?

00:05:31.960 I'm not confident he'll change his behavior. What the hell, what do you do all the time?

00:05:35.280 When did I say I was confident? I said, I said, what I said was, let's get it straight. I said, what will change 0.94

00:05:43.520 their behavior is that the rest of the world reacts to them and it diminishes their standing in the world.

00:05:49.960 I'm not confident of anything. I'm just stating a fact.

00:05:52.660 But given his past behavior has not changed, and in that press conference, after sitting down with

00:05:57.240 you for several hours, he denied any involvement in cyber attacks. He downplayed human rights abuses.

00:06:03.340 He even refused to say Alexei Navalny's name. So how does that account to a constructive meeting

00:06:09.520 as President Putin? You don't understand that you're in your own business.

00:06:13.680 It's a summit with China.

00:06:14.980 We need to love. We need to love quickly. Let's go.

00:06:17.940 So this is as tough on a journalist as Donald Trump ever was. And yet, of course, the coverage,

00:06:26.600 you can actually see the coverage from some of the blue check journos on Twitter.

00:06:30.620 They'll say, Donald Trump refused to answer a question and stormed away. This is an attack

00:06:35.520 on our democracy. And then you see Joe Biden. Well, maybe she shouldn't have asked Joe Biden

00:06:40.100 that question. And well, you know, maybe this and that. Biden, I think, did actually have to

00:06:44.600 apologize for this because he had no answer to the question. The question was a smart one

00:06:50.380 and it was an important one. There's no reason to believe that Putin is going to make good on his

00:06:54.600 promises. Joe Biden has no leverage here. And his negotiation was brutal. It was awful. It was it

00:07:01.040 was weak. CNN, CNN has this one journalist, Caitlin Collins, who asks him a question. Joe Biden was

00:07:10.320 not used to that because Joe Biden, as he has told us already, does not want to get unexpected

00:07:17.980 questions. He gets a list from his people of the reporters that he is to call on. And when he loses

00:07:24.040 his spot in the list, he actually holds up the press conference and says, hold on a second here. I've

00:07:28.080 got to I've got to get out my paper to know which pre-screened journalists I'm allowed to talk to.

00:07:33.100 So I'll take your questions. And as usual, folks, they gave me a list of the people I'm going to

00:07:38.340 call on. So Jonathan, Associated Press. You're not supposed to say that part, Joe. That's you just

00:07:46.260 have it on the sheet and then you pretend like you're you're just calling on them. But you're

00:07:50.340 not supposed to mention that they gave you the list. Who is they? They are the people who are

00:07:56.280 actually running the country because it's quite clear at this point that Joe Biden is not. Do you feel

00:08:01.700 comfortable with this guy negotiating on behalf of you and on behalf of your communities in your

00:08:06.940 country? Of course not. But I suppose it doesn't really matter because Joe Biden is just a stand

00:08:11.760 in for the liberal blob and the liberal establishment. Now, CNN does not have the only journalists out

00:08:18.180 there who very rarely, but on occasion, switch up the narrative. We saw this the other night with

00:08:25.660 no less a liberal than Jon Stewart. Jon Stewart went on Stephen Colbert's CBS show. These guys used

00:08:33.560 to work together on Comedy Central at The Daily Show, The Colbert Report. Now they're coming and they

00:08:38.240 actually disagreed. These are both dyed in the wool liberals. They disagreed because Jon Stewart said,

00:08:44.840 you know, it sure does look like the virus came from that lab in Wuhan. 0.71

00:08:50.300 I think we owe a great debt of gratitude to science. Science has in many ways helped ease

00:09:00.360 the suffering of this pandemic, which was more than likely caused by science.

00:09:09.080 What do you mean by that? Do you mean like there's a chance that this was created in a lab,

00:09:12.880 there's an investigation? A chance?

00:09:14.560 Well, if there's evidence, I'd love to hear. There's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking

00:09:22.640 Wuhan, China. What do we do? Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory

00:09:29.500 coronavirus lab. The disease is the same name as the lab. 0.95

00:09:35.560 That's the thing about Stewart. Stewart actually is pretty funny, right? And he is a, I don't think

00:09:41.860 he's a sophisticated political thinker, but he points out what we have all known for a year and

00:09:46.960 a half. And this is where I want you to be very careful. Do not give Jon Stewart credit. Do not

00:09:53.540 do it. This is an op. This is fake. Do not believe this. The purpose of this debate between Jon Stewart

00:10:03.620 and Stephen Colbert, and I'm not saying this is the purpose that was going on in Jon Stewart's mind or

00:10:08.960 Stephen Colbert's mind. I'm saying this is the reason this is being blown up and being talked

00:10:12.700 about right now is to create the illusion that, that parts of the media are reasonable on this.

00:10:19.140 Parts of the media are losing their, using their common sense. Where was Jon Stewart a year and a

00:10:23.780 half ago? Where was he? Where were the mainstream media a year and a half ago? He's right. Yeah. Oh,

00:10:29.560 the novel coronavirus that was found in bats is discovered right next to the novel coronavirus in

00:10:37.380 bats laboratory in Wuhan. Oh, wow. What a coincidence. No, obviously it had something to

00:10:42.700 do with the lab. When we said that a year and a half ago, the Jon Stewart's of the world were either

00:10:48.720 silent or were telling us that we were crazy coup conspiracists and big technology companies were

00:10:54.500 censoring us and were fact checking us. And we're telling us that that was absolutely crazy and

00:10:59.800 unscientific and we should be ostracized from society. And now they're saying, well, what? I

00:11:04.020 mean, obviously we've got common sense. Obviously it had something to do with the lab. Yes, that's true.

00:11:09.640 I'm glad that you agree with me, Johnny come lately, but it's so disingenuous because you had to cover it

00:11:14.840 up a year and a half ago because it contradicted your political agenda. And it would have put into

00:11:19.440 greater peril, the 2020 election that you were trying to win. And it would have given Donald Trump

00:11:24.060 credit for being obviously correct at the time that they all said, no, he's a racist. He's unscientific.

00:11:30.040 He's a ruby. He's an idiot. Trump got, I want to say 97 out of a hundred things right on the 1.00

00:11:38.520 coronavirus. The mainstream media and the Dr. Fauci's and the democratic party got, I was going

00:11:46.140 to say three out of a hundred things right. I think it's zero out of a hundred things right on the

00:11:49.620 coronavirus. And now they're going to try to come in and pretend that they were reasonable on this as

00:11:55.820 well. No, thank you. Sorry. It's not going to work. I'm glad that Jon Stewart is learning and he's

00:12:00.300 coming back around and he's going to try to do better. That's fine. We'll give him grace to do

00:12:04.960 that in the future, but a year and a half late ain't going to cut it. No, do not fall for this.

00:12:10.140 They were entirely wrong on the virus. They have new credibility. They should not be believed on any part of

00:12:17.020 it from now on. And you're going to hear a whole lot about not just the vaccines, the vaccine

00:12:22.060 passports, the new, the new lockdowns for the new variants or whatever. Don't believe them. Don't

00:12:27.480 believe them about any of it. If they hadn't squandered their credibility day in and day out by

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00:13:50.940 There will be no accountability from the mainstream media. They lie and they lie and they spread fake

00:13:56.380 news, and that's always true. But I'm talking about something much more egregious than fibbing about

00:14:02.780 some politician or whatever. They were complicit in shutting down the country for a year and a half.

00:14:12.100 And now they're going to change their tune that the fact of the matter is undeniable with regard to

00:14:17.620 China's complicity, with regard to the Wuhan laboratory, with regard to the very likely human

00:14:23.540 role in developing this virus. Now they're going to try to change their tune. Don't let them do it.

00:14:28.980 There's never any accountability from these guys. On a totally separate issue,

00:14:34.620 I have to play you. I meant to play it for you a few days ago, but it's still quite relevant.

00:14:39.880 Anna Navarro, who is a fake Republican. She's one of the Republicans, one of the court jester 0.95

00:14:45.060 conservatives who is hired by the leftist media to dance around and do a little soft shoe and put a

00:14:51.440 jester hat on and pretend to be a Republican to give the illusion of debate. And her entire purpose 1.00

00:14:58.820 is to prop up the ruling liberal regime. But if the ruling liberal regime only had liberals on the

00:15:05.160 shows, only had open liberals on the shows, then it would seem like North Korea or something.

00:15:11.400 It would seem like Assad's Syria or Putin's Russia. It would seem like there's no dissent whatsoever.

00:15:18.320 But if they put on some fake Republicans who, you know, they put on their Republican makeup and they

00:15:23.620 do a little dance, then it at least gives the illusion of debate. So Anna Navarro is one of

00:15:28.180 these people on The View on ABC. Anna Navarro came out defending another journalist, mainstream media

00:15:36.400 star who's not going to have any accountability, Jeffrey Toobin. Jeffrey Toobin, who was caught,

00:15:40.720 in the words of Woody Allen, having sex with someone he loves on a Zoom call for the New Yorker 0.59

00:15:45.720 magazine. He's now being rehabilitated. There's no problem at all for Jeffrey Toobin. So he is coming 0.61

00:15:53.060 back into the mainstream and he's, you know, going to be on CNN again. And Anna Navarro says,

00:15:59.740 you know what? I think it's perfectly fine.

00:16:02.120 You know, actually, I'm not surprised he's back on the air. But I will tell you when I saw that

00:16:06.640 interview, oh God, how embarrassing, how humiliating. I kept thinking to myself, if I have to go

00:16:13.320 on live TV and explain to the nation why I masturbated on a Zoom call, I think I'd rather

00:16:19.680 go sell avocados under I-95 than get my job back on TV. Look, I think some instances of sexual 0.88

00:16:28.920 harassment are black and white. Some instances are more nuanced. In this case, he was not sexually

00:16:36.660 harassing anybody. He didn't have the intent to sexually harass somebody. He was sexually harassing

00:16:41.860 himself, maybe. Okay. He was on a Zoom call. It was an accidental exposure. It was not a CNN Zoom

00:16:50.600 call. It was with the New Yorker from where he has been terminated and faced consequences.

00:16:56.200 Anna Navarro's commentary here is accidentally interesting. I don't think she knows why it's

00:17:02.360 interesting, but it is. For her, and don't forget, she's considered to be one of the conservative 1.00

00:17:08.780 people on The View. She isn't. She's a dyed-in-the-wool liberal. But for her, the only fault

00:17:17.320 that one can engage in is the violation of consent. The only criterion that matters when we're making

00:17:26.300 moral judgments for Anna Navarro is consent, right? It's the harassment. It's infringing on someone 1.00

00:17:34.960 else's desires or feeling of comfort. And so Jeffrey Toobin did that. He just didn't know that he did

00:17:41.760 that. He said it was a sort of accidental exposure, an accidental sexual harassment. But to me, the

00:17:47.220 sexual harassment was not really so much the issue. Like, yes, I mean, I'm sure people felt

00:17:55.520 uncomfortable looking at that on Zoom, and that was, I'm sure, terribly unpleasant for them. But it

00:18:00.700 was the behavior itself. It was shameful for him. Why is it shameful? Why is it shameful and embarrassing?

00:18:11.760 And why would Anna Navarro rather go sell avocados underneath a bridge than have to show her face on 1.00

00:18:16.240 television again if she got caught doing that? Because the act is shameful itself. To quote Norm

00:18:23.000 McDonald, sex is a filthy, shameful thing that is obviously only meant for procreation. He put that 0.99

00:18:28.920 in one of his comedy albums, and Norm McDonald is one of the greatest political philosophers around.

00:18:34.140 Jeffrey Toobin did a thing that we just know intrinsically is shameful, and that brings us

00:18:40.100 embarrassment. And that's why Anna Navarro would rather go sell the avocados underneath the bridge. 1.00

00:18:44.520 But she doesn't understand that. We don't have the moral language to talk about private acts as

00:18:49.920 though they can be right or wrong. But now, on the left, and even in part on the right,

00:18:54.300 anything that you want to do, so long as it is in private and doesn't hurt someone else

00:18:58.460 in some obvious way, is considered to be A-OK. That's a very degraded, shallow moral vision of

00:19:07.520 politics. And it's why all of, even the people who are conservatives today actually seem a lot

00:19:12.420 like liberals. Just think about this phrase. You ever hear, hey, don't be a wanker. I guess it's

00:19:18.040 said more in the United Kingdom than here. Hey, don't be a wanker. Why? Why don't you want to 0.99

00:19:21.240 do it? Because there's something shameful about that. And we can transform society and deconstruct

00:19:27.740 and, you know, contrive this and that. But it doesn't matter. That's always going to be

00:19:33.120 the case. Speaking of guys looking at pictures of hot women and speaking of human nature not changing,

00:19:40.500 Victoria's Secret is getting rid of the angels. Victoria's Secret is getting rid of all the hot 1.00

00:19:46.420 chicks. And they're making a conscious decision to trade the hot chicks for Megan Rapinoe, that 1.00

00:19:53.500 radical purple haired lesbian soccer player. And they're going to do this as a major, massive 1.00

00:20:01.920 marketing turnaround to give women what they really want. So this is the headline, New York Times,

00:20:08.540 Victoria's Secret swaps angels for what women want. Will they buy it? This shows you, speaking of 1.00

00:20:14.980 self-love and self-obsession, this shows you how mistaken this modern ideology is. The embattled

00:20:22.400 lingerie giant is attempting the most extreme brand turnaround in recent memory, an effort to

00:20:25.880 redefine not just itself, but also the very idea of what sexy is. So, so what? I'm trying to be like

00:20:34.540 polite about this. Victoria's Secret is now going to say that, what was that woman's name, Tara Banks? 0.98

00:20:41.780 You know, she was like extremely attractive or all of the Victoria's Secret angels. They are no longer

00:20:48.360 sexy. They're going to redefine sexy. So they are no longer sexy. Sexy is Megan Rapinoe. Sexy is 0.95

00:20:56.460 people who are not sexy. That's, that's the, that's the argument even that the New York Times is making.

00:21:04.100 Okay. This is, I guess, just one of the most ridiculous examples of how the left tries to 0.94

00:21:13.160 redefine the words in order to redefine reality. You might say they try to control words to control 0.87

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00:21:50.000 I'm going to double up on the Pavlovian responses. So that, that's their plan. They're going to,

00:21:54.560 at Victoria's Secret, get rid of the hot angels and put in these people who are not, 0.64

00:21:58.080 not attractive. They say this is what women want. Why do women buy Victoria's Secret? 1.00

00:22:05.280 Do they buy Victoria's Secret just for themselves? No, they buy Victoria's Secret for me and for you,

00:22:15.120 other guy listening to this show and for you guy listening to this show in your car.

00:22:20.640 They buy Victoria's Secret to make themselves attractive to men. There may be some other

00:22:26.520 reasons. Maybe it feels more comfortable in certain ways, but really that's not it.

00:22:30.820 The purpose of Victoria's Secret is to be sexy, right? That's what New York Times is telling you. 1.00

00:22:35.580 They're redefining what sexy is. It's to be sexy. Who are they sexy for? They're sexy for men. I know

00:22:40.440 that today we're supposed to pretend that 90% of the population are like trans, bi, non-binary,

00:22:48.020 lesbian. But that's just not true. The overwhelming majority of people, 97% or so, are basically 0.98

00:22:56.640 ordinary in their sexual views. And for the vast, vast, vast majority of women, they're trying to

00:23:01.760 attract men and men are not attracted. I don't want to be rude to anybody. Men are attracted to

00:23:09.520 people who are sexy. And what is sexy is to a very small degree socially constructed and to the much

00:23:16.320 larger degree natural. It comes from our loins. It comes from our DNA. It comes from our caveman brain.

00:23:23.840 And no amount of social engineering is going to change that. This Victoria's Secret story is the

00:23:29.880 whole story of progressive politics. The progressive looks at the world and says, I hate this world. I

00:23:36.040 hate the way society is. I hate the way we live. I hate nature itself. And I'm just going to change it.

00:23:41.420 And I can change that through my unfettered reason and through my tyranny of will in politics, which

00:23:47.700 can turn the world into anything that I want it to be. Ye shall be as gods. As the serpent tells

00:23:54.400 Eve in the Garden of Eden, as Whitaker Chambers, the ex-communist, describes communism, saying it's the

00:24:00.640 serpent in the garden. Ye shall be as gods. But you shan't be. You really will not be. You can't totally

00:24:06.180 change the world. The experiments in politics fail. And I strongly suspect the experiment from

00:24:12.040 Victoria's Secret is going to fail too. You know, there are great books to pre-order these days.

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00:24:45.280 history month or black lives matter month or I don't know. Now, once upon a time, you were also able to 0.93

00:24:52.060 find Created Equal, Clarence Thomas's documentary that details his rise from the segregated South to the

00:24:58.160 highest court in the land and the all-out war that was waged on him by the left during his confirmation

00:25:03.560 process, which, by the way, is an episode that I talk about in my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling

00:25:06.800 Words, Controlling Minds. However, even though Clarence Thomas is one of the most important black voices 0.99

00:25:13.220 in the country, the documentary just mysteriously disappeared from Amazon's queue during, none other

00:25:19.840 than, that sacred black history month. It's not, you can't get it anywhere. Well, it's so strange. Take a quick

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00:25:32.760 the world I came from. I saw what I had become and I asked God that if you take anger out of my heart,

00:25:40.320 I'll never hate again. You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black 1.00

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00:25:49.640 I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.

00:25:55.820 Man, Clarence Thomas, just, just love that guy. So you can stream Created Equal tomorrow,

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00:26:25.820 Victoria's Secret is trading in the angels for Megan Rapinoe. You know, they're trading in 1.00

00:26:40.300 people traditionally considered to be sexy for, according to the New York Times, people who are

00:26:46.000 not. They are doing that because the very idea of making oneself desirable to another person

00:26:54.360 is now considered wrong, unjust, and bigoted. You've seen a lot of TikToks going around TikTok.

00:27:02.280 I guess, I actually, I'm not on TikTok because I don't want to give Xi Jinping all of my data,

00:27:05.820 but you do see these videos going around YouTube or going around Twitter from TikTok. And a woman

00:27:11.300 explained the even, even murkier, more bigoted origins, origins of fatphobia. It doesn't just

00:27:19.460 come from anti-fatness. It also comes from racism. Here's your reminder that fatphobia is rooted in

00:27:26.680 racism. As always, if you haven't read this book, go do that. The main thing to understand is that for

00:27:33.260 the last 300-ish years, white folks have been marketing fatness as a black trait. And this is

00:27:38.660 regardless of whether or not black people individually were actually fat. That was 0.94

00:27:42.680 irrelevant. The message they spread was that black women specifically were ravenous and uncontrollable, 1.00

00:27:47.960 and these barbaric traits made them fat. On the flip side, thinness was marketed as a white trait. 0.98

00:27:53.360 Again, regardless of whether or not individual white people were actually thin, that was irrelevant.

00:27:58.200 The idea was that white women specifically were refined and restrained, and this led them to having 1.00

00:28:03.100 delicate, thin bodies. Over the years, these messages have become more subtle, but even today,

00:28:07.880 they're still very prevalent in conversations around race, health, capitalism, and poverty.

00:28:12.400 So fatphobia is the, well, I guess literally it would mean the irrational fear of fat people,

00:28:19.840 but that's not what we're talking about here. What she means fatphobia, she means having a preference,

00:28:26.560 specifically a sexual preference for people that you find more attractive than other people.

00:28:31.020 And if you have that, if you have a, just a natural attraction, that's bigoted, that's racist.

00:28:35.600 And she's saying that fatphobia, the, by which she means just being attracted to people you're 0.96

00:28:41.480 attracted to, that is rooted in racism because terrible white people, all those white people 0.98

00:28:49.660 marketed the idea that black women were fat, regardless of the individual black women. 0.98

00:28:55.320 Now, do you notice the logical error there? She's saying it's terrible to generalize about black 0.97

00:29:01.160 women, which is what all the, all those white people did. Well, hold, aren't you generalizing 0.93

00:29:05.760 about the white people? You're, you're willing to get specific and individual about the black people,

00:29:10.820 but not about the white people because there's a complete double standard because this argument

00:29:15.100 is incoherent, but it's, it's just designed to get at a deep racial animus. And she says,

00:29:20.400 this is, was awful. Let's assume that her premise is true, that in popular culture, black women were 1.00

00:29:25.760 considered to be on average, more likely to be fat. That's just true. That's, that's true. That's

00:29:32.700 actually one of the reasons that the coronavirus was tougher in black communities than it was in 0.85

00:29:38.600 white communities is because in certain black communities, they were more likely to be obese

00:29:43.440 and obesity was a comorbidity. Obesity was, was considered to be a factor that would put you at

00:29:49.380 greater risk. So yeah, that, that's true. You're denying now statistics, the right facts that we can

00:29:57.980 see from the CDC and from, from other agencies. Is that it's a hate fact? You're not allowed to

00:30:04.380 acknowledge that? No, because if you acknowledge that fact, then you're perpetuating inequality. Well,

00:30:10.620 it wouldn't it be better than to just like try to solve the problem? Well, no, if you try to solve

00:30:14.880 the problem and deal with these health issues in the black community, which we have been told is,

00:30:19.460 is very important. Part of inequality is that there are worse health outcomes in the black community. 0.86

00:30:23.860 Okay. Well then perhaps we should tell people who are obese to lose weight. Well, you can't do that

00:30:27.820 because that's fat phobic. Well, then what on earth are we supposed to do? You're supposed to feel

00:30:31.540 bad about yourself and you're supposed to deny your attractions and you're supposed to hate

00:30:37.920 your self and your ancestry and you're supposed to upend nature. Oh, is that all? Okay. That's fine. 1.00

00:30:46.860 That's what, that's ultimately what it comes down to. There can be no solution to this. There can be

00:30:51.440 no victory. Everything is about racism and racism can never be solved. And when some racial issues seem

00:30:59.960 more important than others, we always have to redirect as the attorney general Merrick Garland just did

00:31:04.120 and explain away every problem in society by white supremacy. The number of open FBI domestic

00:31:13.020 terrorism investigations this year has increased significantly. According to an unclassified

00:31:20.160 summary of the March intelligence assessment, the two most lethal elements of the domestic violence

00:31:25.460 extremist threat are racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists and militia violent extremists.

00:31:32.220 In the FBI's view, the top domestic violent extremist threat comes from racially or ethnically

00:31:39.280 motivated violent extremists, specifically those who advocated for the superiority of the white race. 0.97

00:31:46.060 According to the FBI, the biggest threat in the country is white supremacists. And that is just 0.97

00:31:53.700 obviously ridiculous. It's just, oh my gosh. Name the last organized white supremacists. He's talking 0.99

00:32:06.200 about militias and all these organizations. Name the last organized white supremacist terror attack.

00:32:13.760 And you name it. What, what you're going to name, if we're trying to be as fair as possible to these

00:32:18.620 people like Merrick Garland is you're going to say the Capitol riot. Okay. Who, who did the racist white

00:32:27.460 supremacists? I didn't see very many of them, but let's, let's say that that's, let's, let's conflate

00:32:32.740 everything. Let's say that every Trump supporter is an evil, vicious white supremacist, neo-Nazi. 1.00

00:32:37.840 Obviously not true, but let's say it. Who did that, that group of people kill at the Capitol riot? 0.99

00:32:44.520 Officer Brian Sicknick. Nope. That's not true. Even the New York times had to admit that was a lie.

00:32:50.480 Uh, some other, nope, nope, nobody, nobody. The only person who was killed in the violence of that day

00:32:55.540 was one of the Trump supporters, Ashley Babbitt killed by, ostensibly by a Capitol Hill police

00:33:01.760 officer, but they're all really mum about it. No one is, is talking about it. No, no transparency

00:33:08.500 whatsoever. Okay. Now what about in the summer of 2020? When, when was the last

00:33:15.420 black racially motivated mob, uh, tearing up major cities? Oh, for all of 2020, right? 0.99

00:33:24.600 The, the organization was called Black Lives Matter. Wasn't exclusively black people. There were,

00:33:29.260 there were also some Antifa people there as well that would smash in windows, but that obviously was a,

00:33:35.680 a racial movement. It was not a, not a white supremacist movement and they burned down Minneapolis,

00:33:41.340 burned down Los Angeles, burned down Washington, DC, burned down San Francisco, burned on and on,

00:33:48.780 burned down Chicago, on and on and on. And Merrick Garland stands up there with a straight face and

00:33:54.540 says, well, the really, the big threat is white supremacist. How many, how many people are members of

00:34:00.180 the Ku Klux Klan anymore? I, I suspect virtually every card carrying member of the Ku Klux Klan is

00:34:07.380 just an FBI informant, right? They're all, it's just the FBI sort of spying on other people working

00:34:14.600 for the FBI. But, but it's white supremacy. It's the biggest problem in the whole wide world. 0.96

00:34:19.920 And so we need to pass a new holiday specifically to recognize the evils, the white supremacist evils of

00:34:27.320 this country and how we've overcome them. And that holiday is Juneteenth. Juneteenth, the most sacred

00:34:32.680 day. We talked about it a little yesterday, but there's a new of it. So the Senate passed it

00:34:36.100 a couple of days ago. Then the house passed it yesterday. It's going to the president's desk.

00:34:41.800 Everyone is in support of Juneteenth. Everybody. It was unanimous in the Senate. There were a handful

00:34:48.320 of Republicans in the house who opposed it. Virtually every conservative commentator is, is trying to come

00:34:53.760 out on the side of this being a really good idea because they don't want to be called racists.

00:34:57.740 I'm going to level with you. I'm just going to shoot straight. It's a bad idea. Juneteenth should 1.00

00:35:01.540 not be a federal holiday. It shouldn't. It's, it's, it's purely a leftist contrivance as it currently

00:35:08.080 stands and no Republican should go along with it. There were 10 federal holidays each year. Do you know

00:35:15.360 what those federal holidays are? New Year's day, Independence day, Thanksgiving day, Christmas day,

00:35:19.540 Washington's birthday, Memorial day, labor day, veterans day, Columbus day. Love that one.

00:35:23.460 And the birthday of Martin Luther King Jr. This holiday, this 11th annual holiday, Juneteenth,

00:35:31.200 seems categorically different to me than these other holidays. And I was trying to put my finger

00:35:37.780 on it. I said, what is it? What is it about Juneteenth that is different than these other holidays?

00:35:42.880 And I realized all of these other holidays involve gratitude. They're essentially about gratitude.

00:35:50.660 Thanksgiving. Obviously you give thanks to God. Christmas day. Obviously you give thanks to God.

00:35:57.400 Independence day. Even you give thanks to God. John Adams said this, that the day should be filled

00:36:01.900 with pious devotions to, to God for delivering us and giving us our freedom, our independence.

00:36:07.120 Even New Year's day, New Year's day, you give thanks to one another for old Lang Syne,

00:36:11.400 Washington's birthday, Columbus day, and Martin Luther King Jr. Day are to give thanks to these

00:36:17.080 great men who have accomplished great things in the country. Memorial day actually was begun as a

00:36:23.880 civil war holiday after Lincoln was assassinated to, to memorialize the civil war dead who gave their

00:36:29.220 lives for the very purpose of freeing the slaves. Labor day to give thanks to the ordinary Americans who

00:36:35.500 keep the country going. Veterans day, obviously to give thanks to the veterans. What does Juneteenth give 0.81

00:36:40.740 thanks for? It's not emancipation proclamation day, right? That would, that would be a, just a Lincoln 0.83

00:36:48.000 day basically. Thanks Lincoln for freeing the slaves. It's not 13th amendment ratification day.

00:36:53.400 Thanks legislators for outlawing slavery in the country. Juneteenth is just this day when a union

00:37:00.320 general makes it to Galveston, Texas and tells people that the slaves had been freed three years

00:37:04.940 prior by Abraham Lincoln. It's, it's just a local celebration in Galveston until a few years ago

00:37:10.100 when political activists decided to try to make it the most sacred day on the calendar.

00:37:15.580 But why, why Juneteenth? I suspect the reason that they prefer Juneteenth to say emancipation

00:37:21.680 proclamation day is because it is now very unfashionable on the left to give credit to

00:37:28.860 Abraham Lincoln for freeing the slaves. There was a piece came out in the Atlantic magazine,

00:37:32.600 one of the editors there a few years ago, some years ago, more than that,

00:37:35.580 invading against a bunch of movies, 12 years, a slave, a number of other movies, and including

00:37:42.140 Lincoln for perpetuating what they called white savior narratives. They said, this is awful.

00:37:47.720 You can't, we should not have movies where white people do good things to black people 0.95

00:37:51.560 or for black people. We can't do that. So Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln, the white savior who freed the 0.96

00:37:59.860 slaves. He's not, you can't have a white savior narrative in that movie. No, he didn't free the 0.51

00:38:03.460 slaves. They freed themselves. That's not true, but that's what they're saying. Just the other day,

00:38:08.580 you saw this, this NPR TV critic attacking Tom Hanks and saying that Tom Hanks has spent much of

00:38:14.740 his career in his historical movies portraying white people, white men doing the right thing.

00:38:19.220 And that's unacceptable. White men cannot do the right thing. So I suspect the reason that it's not

00:38:24.100 emancipation proclamation day is because that would have to give credit to Abraham Lincoln,

00:38:27.560 a white guy. And you can't, you can't do that. I suspect the reason it's not 13th amendment

00:38:32.020 ratification days, you'd have to give credit to a lot of white guys. Can't, you're not allowed to

00:38:36.300 do that. That would be a white savior narrative. I suspect that the reason that Juneteenth has been 0.90

00:38:41.120 selected is because it's just this kind of inconclusive moment on the way in between the

00:38:47.780 emancipation proclamation and the 13th amendment that is just kind of giving some news, but it's

00:38:52.960 unfinished. It's not a holiday about gratitude. It's about resentment. You don't need to take my word

00:38:56.980 for it. This is the, this is what Rashida Tlaib said during the debate. This national holiday will

00:39:01.300 serve as a powerful reminder that we cannot run from our past. Not thank you for freeing the

00:39:06.340 slaves. No, no, it's we cannot run from our vicious past. Who's this other woman? Brenda 0.98

00:39:12.580 Lawrence, Democrat says during the debate, it's also a recognition that we have so much work to do

00:39:18.460 to rid this country of systemic racism, discrimination, and hate. So much work to do.

00:39:22.440 Not something was accomplished. That would be emancipation proclamation day or 13th amendment

00:39:27.200 day would be something was accomplished. Let's give thanks for that. This is no, no,

00:39:30.180 it wasn't accomplished. So much work to do. And then Obama, I think proved it last year when he

00:39:35.240 tweeted out, Juneteenth has never been a celebration of victory or an acceptance of the way things are.

00:39:42.260 It's a celebration of progress. It's an affirmation that despite the most painful parts of our history,

00:39:47.640 change is possible and there is still so much work to do. This is it. This is the perpetual

00:39:51.960 revolution that can never end. There's always so much work, nothing to be grateful for.

00:39:58.060 The past always evil, the future always better. We need to overcome the evil past to get into the

00:40:03.660 glorious future. It's a progressive holiday. It is the holiday of progressivism. And by the way,

00:40:10.080 it's not, the bill is not just called the Juneteenth bill. It's called the Juneteenth National

00:40:14.640 Independence Day bill. It is a reframing of our very independence day away from July 4th, 1776. That was a

00:40:21.780 bad day when bad evil white men cynically pretended to be calling for independence, but really they 0.99

00:40:27.560 weren't. They were just propertied white men grounding our country, founding it in racism and 0.99

00:40:34.200 bigotry. The 1619 Project says this. It's historically illiterate, but what she's saying is

00:40:39.340 that America was founded to protect slavery. Completely untrue, but that's the argument to 0.98

00:40:43.900 reframe American history. This holiday is about reframing American history. It's about reframing

00:40:48.560 our independence day. It's too bad that Republicans went along with it. Most Republicans went along with

00:40:53.200 it. Now, there is someone out there who wants to break the mold and run for president. I'm not

00:41:01.300 talking about the Republicans. I'm not talking about Ron DeSantis, who's obviously running for

00:41:06.380 president. I'm not talking about some Democrat, Kamala Harris, who may already be the president. 1.00

00:41:11.220 We're not sure. I'm talking about a centrist who's voted for both Republicans and Democrats.

00:41:18.100 I'm talking about a man that 46% of Americans, according to some probably bogus poll,

00:41:23.600 want to run for president. I'm talking about Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Do you smell how The Rock is

00:41:30.660 campaigning? I do. Dwayne The Rock Johnson was just giving an interview to People Magazine.

00:41:36.840 He was referring to this poll that 46% of Americans want him to run for president.

00:41:41.760 He said it's a humbling honor and that he would consider it. He said he's going to go on a listening

00:41:46.660 tour and figure out if people really want him to run. And this is his argument. I love our country

00:41:52.400 to my core, and I'm endlessly grateful for the opportunities I've had here as a half black,

00:41:56.600 half Samoan kid being able to work my ass off knowing tenacity opens doors. In a lot of ways,

00:42:01.560 I'm indebted to our great country for it. I am not eager for The Rock presidency. Okay,

00:42:07.900 I'm not eager for The Rock candidacy. I don't like that he endorsed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris this

00:42:14.980 last time. I don't think he knows a damn thing about politics. I strongly suspect he would not 0.57

00:42:19.780 be a very good president. However, I would take him any day, even this guy who I don't think he knows

00:42:28.500 very much about politics, I would take him any day over Joe Biden. I would take him any day over,

00:42:34.920 I guess, anyone in the Democratic Party for this one reason. By the way, The Rock's policies may be

00:42:39.920 further left than some of these people. We just don't know, right? He's just an entertainer. But

00:42:44.880 The Rock seems to like our country. Isn't that a novel thing? It used to be that both parties loved

00:42:55.080 our country, waved the flag, but we had disagreements about certain issues. Today, we are told by Joe

00:43:01.420 Biden, by the current president, who's a thousand years old, who's as establishment as they get.

00:43:05.580 He says, this country was founded on the original sin of white supremacy. We've got to overcome our

00:43:11.100 past. It's the same stuff here from Obama. It's the same stuff you hear in the Juneteenth

00:43:15.600 bill arguments. That the country is a terrible place and we've got to overcome it.

00:43:20.020 And Dwayne The Rock Johnson is saying something that's so simple, but it's so nice that he's

00:43:27.440 grateful to the country, that it's a good place. He loves his country. You should love your country.

00:43:33.820 Love of country is an extension of love of your parents. It's an extension of filial piety.

00:43:39.020 Even if you've got problems with your country, you should still have a love of your country.

00:43:42.460 This is why sometimes you hear this dichotomy. My country, right or wrong,

00:43:46.780 my country only when right. This is not even a prescriptive question. It's just a descriptive

00:43:51.980 one. Your country is your country when it's right or wrong. And you need to stand by your country and

00:43:57.060 you need to have courage and you need to try to fix the things that ought to be fixed. Of course.

00:44:03.080 And Dwayne The Rock Johnson, at least at this very base level, very base level, if you ask me,

00:44:08.980 understands this kind of gratitude. We are not going to have a country very long though,

00:44:14.320 if we don't get certain things under control, namely immigration. What do we have? Something

00:44:20.100 like 6,000 people pouring across our border every single day now. This is untenable. The left loves

00:44:27.620 it because it's giving them future voters, statistically overwhelmingly likely to vote

00:44:31.860 for Democrats either once they get amnesty or down the road. So Greg Abbott, he's saying Joe Biden's

00:44:36.620 not going to give us any money for the wall. He's actually halted construction of the wall. So you know

00:44:42.020 what? We're going to build it ourselves. In a letter, Greg Abbott directed the executive director

00:44:48.220 of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice to transfer a quarter billion dollars in general

00:44:52.300 revenue to the disaster fund within this trusted programs, within the office of the governor.

00:44:58.360 This will be a down payment to begin design and construction of the wall with Mexico.

00:45:04.320 Really good stuff. Because Greg Abbott, he's obviously throwing red meat out to the conservatives

00:45:07.820 and he's saying, we're going to build the wall ourselves. But that in a buck 50, I'll get you

00:45:11.060 a cup of coffee if you don't actually have the fund. So he's transferring a quarter billion dollars

00:45:14.380 to build it. That's good stuff. Ron DeSantis, not to be outdone, governor of Florida, is saying that

00:45:19.580 he is going to send Florida law enforcement personnel to Texas to protect the border.

00:45:26.500 Today, we're here to announce that the state of Florida is answering the call.

00:45:31.760 Florida is going to support Texas and Arizona. We believe that securing the southern border

00:45:38.360 is important for our country. But specifically, we believe it'll benefit the people of Florida

00:45:44.020 to be able to get this under control. And so where the federal government has failed,

00:45:48.560 the states are stepping up and doing our best to fill the void.

00:45:52.720 Wow. This is pretty big stuff. This is pretty big stuff. He is saying we're going to send

00:45:58.520 Florida law enforcement to another state. I, as the governor of Florida, I'm going to send my law

00:46:03.440 enforcement to another state to deal with the border. This is a very ambitious play. It's a very

00:46:11.220 dangerous play. If any Florida law enforcement officer is killed or frankly even injured down

00:46:17.760 there at the border, DeSantis is going to have big trouble. He's going to be accused of derelicting his

00:46:23.140 duty of compromising his responsibility to Floridians because of his national ambitions.

00:46:29.500 He's going to be saying there's no reason you should have been sending those guys over to the

00:46:32.020 Texas border. Now, the way he could defend it is to say, look, we are a country, all right? We are

00:46:37.060 individual states, but we are a country together. And the problem of illegal immigration is a problem

00:46:41.700 that's going to affect Floridians too. It's going to affect our whole country. Even if not one single

00:46:45.600 illegal alien came to Florida, the political issues caused by this will affect Florida.

00:46:49.460 Florida. We are not just islands floating off by ourselves. We are together in a country.

00:46:53.960 So it's an important matter for Florida to deal with this. It's a little bit of a tenuous argument,

00:46:58.820 but he could do it. The fact is, if and when he runs for president, this is going to be a good line.

00:47:08.180 He's going to be able to say, look, I broke the mold. I stood up in a way I took on national issues.

00:47:14.740 He's going to have a record on one of the most important issues in the Republican Party.

00:47:19.500 This guy is running very, very seriously for president. This guy is obviously very sharp.

00:47:27.520 He sees what he's doing and he is identifying, forget DeSantis for a second, he's identifying

00:47:33.000 this immigration issue, this issue of national identity, this issue of who we are and what kind

00:47:37.740 of political control we are even allowed to have. The bureaucracy and the liberal establishment says

00:47:42.700 we can't even control who comes into the country. And he's saying, yes, we can. 0.99

00:47:45.540 But he is betting that that is going to be the issue that motivates Republicans. The left is

00:47:52.320 betting that racial division is going to be the issue that motivates Democrats. And you're going 0.52

00:47:56.580 to, I think both of them are right. I think you're going to see that duked out. What's the real threat?

00:48:00.380 Where is the real America? What is the sort of issue that lies at the heart, the real heart of

00:48:05.940 Americans? That's the question for the next three years. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael

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Ep. 787 - The Real Threat

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