The Michael Knowles Show - July 02, 2021


Ep. 798 - Science Is Dead. (And We Have Killed It.)


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

188.04546

Word Count

9,028

Sentence Count

684

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

31


Summary

Conservatives want to ban transgender athletes from girls' sports. Their evidence is shaky. What do you think about that? Is there any truth in it? Is it a good or bad thing? And why should you care?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 A top trending article in USA Today makes a bold claim.
00:00:04.940 Claim is conservatives want to ban transgender athletes from girls sports.
00:00:09.980 Now, that obviously is not the controversial part.
00:00:12.440 The controversial part is the next sentence.
00:00:15.640 Their evidence is shaky.
00:00:18.620 Our evidence, of course, is that they're not girls.
00:00:22.540 That's our whole evidence.
00:00:24.580 But these guys here don't understand what evidence or science or arguments are.
00:00:31.020 Which may be why President Biden's Energy Department is turning its scientific grants into a racial grievance contest.
00:00:37.660 Might be why scientific conferences now charge different prices based on race.
00:00:42.680 Might be why Joe Biden himself blames the sun monster for a tragic building collapse in Florida.
00:00:48.480 I'm expert scientist Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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00:02:33.020 Now, conservatives want to ban transgender athletes from girls' sports.
00:02:35.880 Their evidence is shaky.
00:02:37.120 What do you think our evidence is?
00:02:39.320 Now, what they mean, I want to be charitable.
00:02:40.920 I don't want to just straw man this article.
00:02:42.460 It's a very thick article.
00:02:43.360 I can't believe they wrote this much about this obvious topic.
00:02:46.540 Their evidence, they say, is that, you know, some of the men who, but when we say transgender people, by the way, we mean men who are pretending to be women.
00:02:55.320 Some of the men, you know, actually don't necessarily have this perfect advantage because of this level of hormones.
00:03:02.260 I mean, just as a practical matter, they almost always win the sports.
00:03:05.120 But, you know, but actually the testosterone level is this.
00:03:08.900 And because of that, that's not our evidence.
00:03:11.700 That's not our evidence.
00:03:13.800 The reason that men should not compete in girls' sports is not because they have an extra bit of testosterone or their shoulders are broader or their hips are narrower or they're taller or they're faster.
00:03:24.740 The reason, the most basic reason, is that they're not girls.
00:03:29.660 And girls' sports, by definition, are for girls.
00:03:32.520 So if you're not a girl, you shouldn't compete.
00:03:35.100 You don't need to take any measurements.
00:03:36.640 You don't need to draw any blood.
00:03:37.960 You don't need to do any difficult calculations to understand that bit of evidence and that argument.
00:03:44.160 But what the left does, because it is now so scientistic, is it doesn't understand what an argument is.
00:03:54.420 It doesn't understand what philosophy is.
00:03:56.220 It doesn't understand what arguments from human nature are.
00:04:00.380 All it understands is this very sort of rigorous materialist physical process that then they kind of totally pervert in this way.
00:04:09.200 I mean, just from a scientific perspective, Husky Hank is going to run faster than sweet little Helen, okay?
00:04:15.140 That's just a fact.
00:04:16.240 I don't need advanced degrees to know that.
00:04:18.240 Only a scientist, only an intellectual could possibly think that that's a confusing or complicated question.
00:04:23.980 But science, because it has been made into this idol by the left, it has to fulfill all the roles of philosophy, of religion, of the longings of the human heart.
00:04:33.620 And so it gets perverted all the time.
00:04:35.140 The Department of Energy right now, under Joe Biden, the Department of Energy makes certain grants, right?
00:04:42.440 So this is from the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy.
00:04:46.000 They're making different funding grants.
00:04:50.140 They are encouraging racial minorities, women, and veterans to become the prime applicants or a proposed partner to the prime applicant.
00:04:59.820 What that means is the selection official may consider the inclusion of these types of entities as part of the selection.
00:05:06.160 All of that is bureaucratic gobbledygook to say that this ostensibly scientific endeavor is going to prioritize black people and Hispanics and maybe Asians, but probably not.
00:05:18.760 And it's going to disadvantage white people.
00:05:20.880 But I thought this was a scientific process.
00:05:22.740 I thought we were just only after the truth.
00:05:24.540 I thought only the best scientists would win.
00:05:26.760 Why are we now saying that it's more important that you have, let's say, you've got all things being equal, a white scientist and a black scientist.
00:05:37.240 It's going to have to go to the black scientist.
00:05:39.320 Even further, let's say all things being equal, you've got a, or let's say all things not being equal, you've got a black scientist who is performing at a lower rate, and you've got a white scientist performing at a higher rate.
00:05:49.140 You'll still, in some cases, give the grant to the black scientist because of this racial ideology.
00:05:54.660 What's the evidence there?
00:05:58.140 It's not.
00:05:58.880 You're making a moral argument that it's better to reward black people than white people, even if the black people are not performing as well.
00:06:07.360 Okay, that's a moral.
00:06:08.480 You can try to make that argument.
00:06:09.640 Fair enough.
00:06:10.340 But there's nothing scientific about it.
00:06:12.700 We're just using that word science to mean everything.
00:06:15.240 In the same way that now we refer to white supremacy as just a synonym for sin, you know, every bad thing that's ever happened is because of white supremacy now because we just don't understand how to think about philosophy or religion or morality.
00:06:27.920 It's the same thing here now in science.
00:06:30.480 Everything good and true and beautiful in the world is just science because it's a substitute for God because the left makes an idol out of it.
00:06:38.000 But this is not particularly scientific.
00:06:39.420 There's a marine science conference right now called the POC CSEA 2021 conference.
00:06:47.300 It's a virtual conference for the marine science BIPOC community.
00:06:51.660 BIPOC is the new term for black people, and they include indigenous in there too, which means Indians.
00:06:57.800 Feather, not dot.
00:06:58.860 So they're going to let the BIPOC in for free, and they're going to charge white scientists $10 to show up as an ally.
00:07:08.420 So obviously the point here is not scientific inquiry.
00:07:12.260 The point here is not to discover truth.
00:07:13.620 The point is to create a racial caste system, to treat white people as a sort of second-class citizen, certainly in the scientific endeavor, and to treat BIPOC, whatever that is, you know,
00:07:26.320 to treat BIPOC as a first-class citizen within the scientific endeavor.
00:07:33.440 Not science.
00:07:34.500 It's a new political order.
00:07:35.920 It's a new caste system.
00:07:37.120 It's deeply ideological, but it's not science.
00:07:40.000 What about this terrible building collapse in Florida?
00:07:43.840 What caused the building collapse?
00:07:45.440 Well, obviously people ignoring some warning signs, not doing some work on the building itself, not doing upkeep and maintenance.
00:07:51.000 Or, says President Biden, not even just one of his lackeys, but President Biden himself, it was probably caused by climate change.
00:08:00.860 We don't have any firm proof of what's happened.
00:08:06.100 There's all kinds of rational speculation about whether or not the rebars were rusted.
00:08:14.960 And interesting to me, I didn't raise it, but how many of the survivors and how many of the families talked about the impact of global warming?
00:08:25.620 How much it, and they'd know exactly, but they talked about sea levels rising and about how there were, and the combination of that and the concern about incoming storms, incoming tropical storms.
00:08:41.260 Global warming, which is also, by the way, an unscientific theory.
00:08:46.580 Unscientific in the sense that it can't be disproven.
00:08:50.280 The temperature goes up, it's global warming.
00:08:52.520 Temperature goes down.
00:08:53.220 Well, now they call it climate change.
00:08:54.520 Temperature goes up, it's climate change.
00:08:55.900 Temperature goes down, it's climate change.
00:08:57.240 Temperature stays the same, it's climate change.
00:08:58.960 You can't deny it.
00:08:59.780 It's the same argument from Ibram Kendi and those guys on the race-hustling left.
00:09:04.440 They'll say, if you admit that you're a racist, you're a racist.
00:09:06.640 If you deny that you're a racist, you're definitely a racist.
00:09:08.920 So you're just a racist.
00:09:09.760 It's called begging the question.
00:09:11.480 It's called assuming your own conclusion, which is a philosophical error and a scientific one as well.
00:09:16.520 You can't begin and end in the same place because you began in that place.
00:09:23.360 That is not how the inquiry works.
00:09:26.020 This is why, I think, people do not trust the scientists.
00:09:31.940 Because the scientists do not really understand what science is.
00:09:35.160 They don't, the people, scientists and the people who are popularizing science, they don't understand even what arguments we're making, whether it's on transgender sports or infrastructure, which is what's going on in this building collapse, or the pursuit of science itself.
00:09:48.660 This is why, by the way, a lot of people are hesitant to get the vaccine.
00:09:52.880 You know, I really don't want to get the stupid thing.
00:09:55.120 I'm probably going to because my best friend is having a wedding overseas.
00:09:59.220 So I'm going, I probably have to do it, you know, and I, because I love my friend, I'm willing to do it.
00:10:03.960 But I, otherwise, I would be hesitant to do it because I'm not at, I'm a young person, and I'm, I'm noticing I'm not at risk, right?
00:10:11.900 I'm at very, very low risk from it, so I'm making a prudential judgment.
00:10:15.060 And I know that the scientists have been lying to me from the beginning.
00:10:20.120 And the people who are reporting on the science have been either lying outright or misunderstanding what the science is.
00:10:29.040 We've made an idol out of this thing, and we're using it to justify all sorts of ideological nonsense, whether it's redefining the sexes, whether it's creating a racial caste system, or whether it's upending the political order in the economy on climate change, because we're blaming every tragedy in the world on that.
00:10:44.200 Absolutely crazy stuff.
00:10:45.920 Makes you just want to tune out.
00:10:46.980 When you want to tune in, I would recommend checking out The Jordan Harbinger Show.
00:10:50.640 I know every day somebody tells you that you just have to listen to some new podcast, and you say, oh yeah, sure, maybe, and then you don't listen to it.
00:10:57.820 But don't let that happen here.
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00:11:01.380 Recently, Jordan had Oliver North on his show.
00:11:03.520 You know Ollie North.
00:11:04.640 The woke mob really came after him for this.
00:11:07.400 He said that he's been getting attacked just for doing the interview.
00:11:10.760 Each episode is a conversation with a different fascinating guest.
00:11:13.620 In one episode, Jordan talks to a hostage negotiator from the FBI who offers techniques on how to get people to like and trust you, which sounds pretty useful and disturbing at the same time.
00:11:23.900 But they know how to do it, and you can hear about it, too.
00:11:26.080 Lots of science, some pretty crazy stories from spies, mafia enforcers, art forgers.
00:11:32.520 This guy, he's really got everything.
00:11:33.800 It's a really, really broad podcast.
00:11:35.920 Really like this show.
00:11:37.240 We think you will as well.
00:11:38.400 There's just so much there.
00:11:39.500 Go check out jordanharbinger.com slash start for some episode recommendations, or you can search for The Jordan Harbinger Show.
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00:11:55.000 A topic that I keep coming back to when I think about how we're so misunderstanding America, we're so misunderstanding science, we're so misunderstanding, we just don't, we don't even know what we don't know.
00:12:05.560 Yesterday on the show, we talked about Don Rumsfeld, the known knowns, the known unknowns, and the unknown unknowns, and even the known unknowns.
00:12:13.520 No, the unknown knowns.
00:12:14.440 It's very, very confusing, you understand.
00:12:15.920 But we can't even make sense of those things because our standards have fallen, and no one possesses really a liberal education anymore, a proper education to know about our culture, to make sense of our own freedom, and to liberate ourselves from our basest passions and our ignorance.
00:12:33.880 One guy wants to change that.
00:12:36.960 Glenn Youngkin, he is a candidate for governor of Virginia.
00:12:41.500 He is outlining a plan to, quote, restore an academic standard of excellence in Virginia schools and return common sense to the classroom.
00:12:50.300 I'm going to pause it there.
00:12:51.260 This is really good stuff.
00:12:52.300 Too often, you hear conservatives prattling on about the free marketplace of ideas in a fifth-grade classroom or how we shouldn't, you know, we shouldn't indoctrinate.
00:13:01.140 We need to educate, and we need to expand the curriculum and include everything.
00:13:04.940 No, bogus, not true.
00:13:06.380 You can't expand a curriculum.
00:13:07.580 It's not possible.
00:13:08.580 There are only so many weeks in a semester.
00:13:10.280 There are only so many books you can read.
00:13:12.860 Some things are true.
00:13:13.660 Some things are false.
00:13:14.380 We should not include false things.
00:13:15.680 Some things are good.
00:13:16.400 Some things are bad.
00:13:16.960 We should not include bad things.
00:13:18.860 We should, as Governor DeSantis is doing now in Florida, teach on the evils of communism.
00:13:24.700 I'm not saying don't teach Marx or don't teach communism.
00:13:27.080 I just wrote a whole book outlining a lot of what Marx and his ideological heirs had to say.
00:13:31.700 But it's bad.
00:13:32.660 We must have a perspective on these things.
00:13:35.060 That is the way education works.
00:13:39.420 So I love that Glenn Youngkin is using this word standards.
00:13:42.700 It's not just total free academic freedom, whatever you want, pursue whatever you want.
00:13:47.560 No, there are standards.
00:13:50.080 Now there's a big movement on the left.
00:13:51.740 Get rid of standardized tests.
00:13:54.220 Why?
00:13:54.900 Because we want to increase the number of people of color, BIPOC, I guess, in the universities.
00:14:02.740 And if they're doing poorly, relatively poorly on the standardized tests, that must mean there's a problem with the standardized tests.
00:14:07.780 So you got to get rid of it.
00:14:09.240 Right?
00:14:09.740 That's what's going on.
00:14:11.760 So what the Virginia governor candidate is saying is we need a standard of excellence.
00:14:16.420 Now, here's the one problem I have with the statement.
00:14:19.400 He says, we need to restore an academic standard of excellence in Virginia schools and return common sense to the classroom.
00:14:24.500 Here's the problem.
00:14:25.560 So that children are taught how to think instead of what to think.
00:14:31.260 No.
00:14:32.160 No, I'm afraid not.
00:14:33.800 I don't want to knock this guy too much because I think he's doing really good stuff and I think he's a good candidate.
00:14:38.160 But that is a meaningless expression.
00:14:39.760 You cannot know how to think if you do not, in some sense, know what to think.
00:14:45.520 You can't know how to think about advanced mathematics if you don't know that 2 plus 2 equals 4.
00:14:50.440 You can't know how to think about American history if you don't know that the revolution begins in 1776.
00:14:55.880 You need to know certain hard facts and you need to be told that they are true.
00:15:01.060 And if you think that they're false, you need to be punished with a bad grade, okay?
00:15:04.360 You have to, it's this problem of, we want to educate, not indoctrinate.
00:15:07.280 No, the words mean the same thing, okay?
00:15:08.740 It's just one is good and one is bad.
00:15:10.880 They have those connotations.
00:15:12.200 But we actually, we need to go further.
00:15:14.080 I'm glad we've moved from the insane sort of liberal canard of free marketplace of ideas, academic freedom,
00:15:21.280 which the left has never in practice really believed in.
00:15:24.360 It's just a trick to fool conservatives into abandoning our standards.
00:15:27.160 We've moved from that into we need academic standards of excellence.
00:15:30.500 Cool, awesome, love that.
00:15:32.380 Now we need, now we need, we need to move further into we will tell in some ways students what to think.
00:15:41.980 You have to.
00:15:42.980 It is, that is just what education is.
00:15:45.260 I'm not saying it's got to be agitprop and brainwashing.
00:15:47.700 I'm not suggesting that at all.
00:15:48.840 But you need to establish a kind of baseline because when you present facts to students,
00:15:55.480 those facts imply certain things about the good and the true and the beautiful.
00:16:00.600 Okay, speaking of which, since this is the thesis of my book,
00:16:05.560 Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds.
00:16:07.340 No more bells.
00:16:07.980 We're rid of the bells.
00:16:08.820 I just want to thank all of the readers.
00:16:11.580 You readers made Speechless the number one best-selling nonfiction book in the entire country last week.
00:16:19.760 I'm really floored.
00:16:21.460 I'm really pleased.
00:16:22.340 Thank you so much.
00:16:23.260 I thought the book would sell well because I've been shilling it relentlessly for about six months,
00:16:27.900 as you well know, ding, ding, ding.
00:16:29.320 But I really did not expect it to hit number one.
00:16:32.340 It is number one on the Publisher Weekly chart, making it a number one national bestseller.
00:16:36.480 The Publisher Weekly chart is the one tied to book sales.
00:16:40.480 And sometimes people will buy books in bulk or anything.
00:16:44.260 That's not what we did.
00:16:45.380 We did not do any bulk sales.
00:16:46.740 It was all you guys flooding Tim Poole's super chats and ordering your copies.
00:16:52.880 So thank you so much.
00:16:54.240 We conspicuously, even though we are the top-selling book in the country right now in nonfiction,
00:16:59.820 conspicuously we're missing from the New York Times list.
00:17:02.940 So shocking, isn't it?
00:17:04.320 Almost as though that's part of the thesis of my book.
00:17:08.620 But I do want to thank you because we've sold, according to BookScan, which is the industry standard,
00:17:12.840 according to Publishers Weekly, we sold about 18,000 copies, just a little under that, in a week.
00:17:19.020 That's way ahead of the second and third place books, which were by Bill O'Reilly and Malcolm Gladwell.
00:17:24.700 They sold 13,000 and 9,000, roughly, respectively.
00:17:28.960 So about 5,000 more than number two, even though that number two is number one on the New York Times list.
00:17:33.220 And we sold many multiples more than some of the lower books on the New York Times list.
00:17:38.180 So I'm just really pleased with that.
00:17:39.760 Thank you so much.
00:17:40.640 Keep telling your friends because I'm hoping that through the book, we can change the conversation on a lot.
00:17:47.560 I think the right is doing a good job.
00:17:50.000 We're starting to give up some of those losing strategies.
00:17:52.360 We're starting to give up some of the canards and the lies that the left tricked us into believing.
00:17:57.340 But I want to take it a little bit further as we head into 2022, 2024.
00:18:02.280 And hopefully, time is running out a little bit here.
00:18:05.420 Hopefully, we can grab a little political power back, which reminds me of the squishes.
00:18:12.120 I have, you know, my book is really not so much geared at the evils of the left as it is at the just cowardice of the squishes.
00:18:20.680 It's just the squishes are driving me nuts.
00:18:25.060 And Liz Cheney did it again.
00:18:26.980 She did it again.
00:18:28.140 You know, Liz Cheney, who was formerly one of the Republican leaders.
00:18:32.200 She was chairman of the House GOP conference.
00:18:35.460 Then she just relentlessly attacked the right, relentlessly attacked Trump.
00:18:39.540 They took a vote.
00:18:40.240 They held her in for a while.
00:18:41.440 Then finally, they couldn't defend her anymore.
00:18:43.520 It's like she's auditioning for her CNN contributorship.
00:18:45.680 And so they voted her out.
00:18:48.660 And now she is accepting a spot on Nancy Pelosi's select committee to investigate January 6th, the gravest, most horrific attack in, frankly, in our nation's history.
00:19:06.280 Forget September 11th.
00:19:08.260 Forget the World Trade Center.
00:19:09.800 Or forget Pearl Harbor, rather.
00:19:11.540 Forget the War of 1812.
00:19:13.560 The guy in the horn helmet dancing on Nancy Pelosi's desk, right?
00:19:17.100 By the way, I'm not just making this up.
00:19:19.420 This is what they're saying.
00:19:20.080 They are actually, it's so offensive that they're comparing the guy in the horn hat or the other guy taking Pelosi's lectern to September 11th or Pearl Harbor.
00:19:32.460 Absolutely insane.
00:19:33.980 That's why they're, by the way, that's why they're calling it January 6th is to make it seem like September 11th, even though the two events are completely incomparable.
00:19:40.380 And Liz Cheney is taking a spot here.
00:19:43.020 So Kevin McCarthy, who's the House minority leader, he issued a threat.
00:19:47.800 And he said that he would strip any Republican member of their committee assignments if they accept an offer from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to serve on this committee.
00:19:56.220 So you've got a couple people, you've got Cheney and you've got Kinzinger, who's this other total squish, who said, well, that's fine, I don't care.
00:20:03.520 We need to serve on the committee.
00:20:04.720 That's not who we are.
00:20:05.700 Whatever, you know, whatever nonsense they say.
00:20:07.860 And so they're going to do that.
00:20:09.580 This is worse than Democrats.
00:20:12.760 It is worse.
00:20:13.660 People point out, I have pointed out, that Liz Cheney has quite a conservative voting record.
00:20:18.900 It doesn't matter.
00:20:19.920 It doesn't matter if when the tough political issues come up, the actual fights for practical power, not your view on an issue in the abstract, not your own ideological musings in your dorm room, but actually when it comes down to practical, who's got the political power here?
00:20:36.660 If you're now always siding with the Democrats, that makes you worse than a Democrat because you're a traitor to your party and to your constituents.
00:20:47.140 So it's a really, really big problem.
00:20:50.300 We got to, we got to get these guys out of the party.
00:20:54.100 I don't know how else, I wish, it's too bad.
00:20:56.080 Liz Cheney has got a lot of good views on a lot of good things.
00:20:58.300 But when it comes to the practice of power, she's just always wrong and undermining the GOP these days.
00:21:03.780 Some people say, you know, Trump was terrible for the Republican Party.
00:21:07.500 We need to get back to the true conservatives like Adam Kinzinger.
00:21:11.800 Who is that?
00:21:12.400 What?
00:21:12.540 I've only, I've only ever heard that guy's name in the context of criticizing Republicans and conservatives.
00:21:18.380 This reminds me that Trump, for all his flaws, has been much, much better for the Republican Party than Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, where, you know, is the future MSNBC contributor, or any of these other jokers.
00:21:35.400 And actually some polls bear this out.
00:21:37.220 We now know, according to Pew Research, President Trump boosted his support among Hispanics in the 2020 election.
00:21:46.100 And fairly significantly, by the way.
00:21:49.040 So, Trump won just 3 in 10 college-educated Hispanics.
00:21:53.620 That's too bad.
00:21:54.500 But he won 41% of non-college-educated Hispanics.
00:21:58.180 Now, that's compared to Joe Biden's 55%, so that's no good.
00:22:01.080 He, unfortunately, with Trump, though, he took a hit among non-college-educated whites.
00:22:09.360 So, they only backed him 66% in 2020.
00:22:14.700 That's compared to 73% in 2016.
00:22:17.840 And then, especially when you get to non-college-educated white men, that's the real problem.
00:22:25.040 Because it's not even just non-college-educated whites generally.
00:22:27.200 It's the non-college-educated white men.
00:22:29.040 That was a real base.
00:22:29.900 And Trump kind of moved away from that base.
00:22:33.520 And he embraced certain things that were a little more liberal or seemed a little bit more pandering.
00:22:38.920 I'm thinking of the First Step Act.
00:22:41.320 I'm thinking of a number of policies that did not...
00:22:46.940 You want to make gains among all sorts of groups.
00:22:51.020 And, you know, Trump did a pretty good job among minority voters compared to previous Republicans.
00:22:54.740 But you can't do that at the expense of losing your base.
00:22:58.560 You know, that sort of is the Trump base.
00:23:01.360 And that, I think of, you know, Trump famously said, we love the under-educated.
00:23:06.200 Or we love the uneducated.
00:23:07.540 People made fun of him for it.
00:23:08.580 No, this is very important.
00:23:09.440 The parents showing up to the school board meetings right now demanding that CRT and transgenderism get out of the schools.
00:23:18.060 They may be less educated.
00:23:20.120 They may have fewer degrees than the people running the educational institutions.
00:23:23.440 But they're much smarter.
00:23:24.980 They're much, much smarter.
00:23:25.900 I want my country to be run by those people, not by the people running the various educational institutions, okay?
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00:24:43.020 There is a really rough crime story out right now.
00:24:46.600 I don't focus on individual crime stories too often, but this one is pretty sick stuff.
00:24:52.260 Joel Arseniega Sands, a 25-year-old illegal alien, was indicted by a grand jury this week
00:24:58.720 because he was arrested for murdering 51-year-old James Garcia in New Mexico the day after Father's Day.
00:25:06.020 He decapitated Garcia, then mutilated the rest of his body,
00:25:10.040 and then started kicking his head around like a soccer ball.
00:25:14.180 The reason I bring it up is not just the gruesome details.
00:25:16.680 It's because at the time of the murder,
00:25:19.040 Arsianega Sands was out on bail.
00:25:21.540 He had previously been arrested, and they just let him out on bail.
00:25:25.520 Because, you see, we need criminal justice reform.
00:25:27.560 We need the First Step Act.
00:25:28.480 We need a Second Step Act.
00:25:30.000 We need to let these people out of prison.
00:25:32.100 We need to abolish prisons, darn it.
00:25:34.340 That's what I've been told.
00:25:35.900 Prisons are the modern-day slavery, is what I've been told.
00:25:38.760 But then the problem is when you let out the prisoners,
00:25:42.980 or when you let out the criminals,
00:25:44.060 they decapitate people and kick their heads around like soccer balls.
00:25:46.700 Do you think that's good?
00:25:47.400 Do you think it's for justice?
00:25:49.000 Do you think that's increasing equality and flourishing and liberty in the country?
00:25:53.620 I don't think it is.
00:25:54.660 I don't think it is at all.
00:25:57.000 I noticed this yesterday.
00:25:57.940 Bill Cosby got out on a technicality.
00:25:59.640 You saw that.
00:26:00.520 And everyone was complaining about this.
00:26:02.080 Fair enough.
00:26:03.140 But I thought we were supposed to abolish prisons.
00:26:05.680 I thought there were too many black men in prison.
00:26:07.640 Remember, that's what we were talking about.
00:26:08.720 It's explicitly in a racial appeal.
00:26:11.160 Prisons are the new Jim Crow or something.
00:26:13.640 Black man got out of prison.
00:26:14.740 Isn't that good?
00:26:15.760 Well, no, it's bad.
00:26:16.520 Why is it bad?
00:26:16.880 Because it's Bill Cosby.
00:26:19.260 But if we abolish prisons, we have nowhere to put Bill Cosby.
00:26:23.040 Even if we got to keep him in jail.
00:26:25.580 The theory of this, that what we're being told in theory and sold in theory,
00:26:30.080 seems a little bit different when you read the stories of guys kicking people's heads around
00:26:33.280 or rapists going free or whatever you want to read.
00:26:36.180 Crime of all sorts going up, including attacks on cops.
00:26:40.100 Attacks on cops are going up 91% according to the National Fraternal Order of Police.
00:26:46.380 91% since 2020.
00:26:49.060 That's not playing very well in Peoria.
00:26:50.920 So Jen Psaki, on behalf of Biden and the White House and the Democrats,
00:26:55.780 is really denying this.
00:26:57.500 She's gaslighting everyone.
00:26:58.580 She's said this before.
00:26:59.680 She said Republicans are the ones who want to defund the police
00:27:02.760 because they didn't vote for some spending bill, right?
00:27:05.420 So it's such preposterous thinking.
00:27:07.580 Democrats come out and say, we need to abolish the police.
00:27:09.560 It means getting rid of the police departments.
00:27:10.920 We at least need to defund them.
00:27:11.980 They start actually doing that in various cities.
00:27:14.560 Then that hurts their poll numbers.
00:27:17.580 So now Psaki blames Republicans for this
00:27:20.060 on the flimsy excuse that they didn't vote for some random spending bill from the federal government.
00:27:24.100 So Peter Doocy at Fox News, really good reporter, starts pushing her on this.
00:27:28.980 He says, well, can you name the Republicans who have voted to defund the police,
00:27:32.980 who have supported that?
00:27:34.360 Psaki comes up short.
00:27:36.220 You mentioned at the last briefing that you think Republicans wanted to defund the police
00:27:40.200 because they did not support the American Rescue Plan.
00:27:43.280 Which Republican ever said that they did not like the American Rescue Plan
00:27:47.680 because they wanted to defund the police?
00:27:49.900 Well, first, let me just note that the president ran and won the most votes of any candidate in history
00:27:55.960 on a platform of boosting funding for law enforcement
00:27:58.600 after Republicans spent decades trying to cut the COPS program.
00:28:02.520 There's record of that.
00:28:03.660 That doesn't require anyone having new comments.
00:28:06.880 And then also stood in the way of crucial funding needed to prevent the laying off of police officers
00:28:11.480 as crimes increased.
00:28:12.920 That's a simple statement of fact.
00:28:14.860 That's a simple statement of fact.
00:28:16.440 That's because they didn't.
00:28:18.180 Come on.
00:28:18.620 Come on, Jen.
00:28:20.160 You could do better than that.
00:28:21.320 Peter Doocy hits the nail on the head.
00:28:22.500 He says, okay, if you're going to try to make this silly argument,
00:28:24.600 just name me one Republican who wants to defund the police.
00:28:29.020 Because I could name you a bunch of Democrats.
00:28:30.980 Like AOC, Ilhan Omar, you know, this, that, and the other thing.
00:28:35.020 The whole squad, I guess.
00:28:36.100 And then, and more as well.
00:28:38.200 Certainly when you get to the state and local level.
00:28:41.300 Name me one Republican.
00:28:42.700 They can't.
00:28:43.820 So they obfuscate and they try to make false equivalences.
00:28:46.160 False equivalence is a, is really a big issue right now.
00:28:51.040 And I, I hope that if we take, if people take nothing from my book, Speechless, I hope
00:28:57.360 they take this idea that false equivalence is a tool of the left.
00:29:02.400 The supposedly neutral liberal ground is a secular ground.
00:29:06.320 It's a tool of the left.
00:29:08.400 You, you actually can know things.
00:29:10.620 I was reminded of this when Lil Nas X, who is that Satanist homosexual rap singer, the
00:29:16.240 one who, who did the whole video twerking on, on Satan's face and, because he came out
00:29:22.040 of the closet as not, not only, he came out of the closet as gay.
00:29:26.040 He also came out of the closet as a Satanist selling shoes with human blood in them.
00:29:29.280 You know, that, that's not good.
00:29:31.920 That's, that's not good at all.
00:29:33.320 He, he showed up to an award show wearing a big dress that compared the Catholic church
00:29:39.380 to the Nazis.
00:29:40.840 He showed up to the 2021 BET awards on Sunday with a dress that said, Deus Land, which was
00:29:48.000 a reference to Deutschland, but it was Deus Land and had kind of Nazi imagery on it.
00:29:52.200 So some, somebody brought up school prayer on the show the other day and I said, or they
00:29:59.020 brought it up actually on Twitter.
00:30:00.000 And I said, I'm, I'm in favor of school prayer.
00:30:02.040 And someone said, well, yeah, well, should we have a, what if I want to have a prayer
00:30:04.860 to Satan?
00:30:05.480 Would you support that?
00:30:06.360 And I said, no, I would not support that, but I would support a prayer to God.
00:30:09.660 And they said to me, well, how can you support a prayer to God school in the morning?
00:30:13.800 Like we had in this country for most of its history until the 1960s.
00:30:16.860 How can you support a prayer to God in schools, but, but then say, we can't have a prayer to
00:30:22.780 Satan.
00:30:23.440 And my answer is because God and Satan are different.
00:30:28.540 They're, they're very different things.
00:30:30.960 Well, what, what if my God is Satan?
00:30:33.760 Well, then you're in trouble, Buster.
00:30:35.220 You better stop that.
00:30:36.860 That's not good.
00:30:38.020 But what, but, but come on, you know, it's like they're both, um, uh, supernatural, uh,
00:30:45.680 uh, uh, beings.
00:30:48.440 Okay.
00:30:49.000 Yeah, sure.
00:30:49.560 But they're different.
00:30:50.780 Just like natural beings can be different.
00:30:53.340 This microphone is different than this leftist here's Tumblr.
00:30:56.180 We can make distinctions.
00:30:57.640 And I, I'm not just talking here about Lil Nas X or the school prayer.
00:31:03.980 You see this really with David French's argument on Drag Queen Story Hour.
00:31:07.940 He says that if, if we can't tell perverts that they can't twerk for kids in the library,
00:31:11.940 then, then they might tell us that we can't go to church on Sunday, which frankly,
00:31:15.740 they're already doing and they've been doing for a year and a half.
00:31:18.580 And, and which by the way, if we, if we cannot state that Drag Queen Story Hour is different
00:31:28.920 and worse than going to church on Sunday, we can't govern ourselves.
00:31:34.180 Self-government requires that we have faculties of reason and moral conscience.
00:31:38.000 If we don't have that, if we actually can't tell the difference between Drag Queen Story
00:31:43.080 Hour and church on Sunday, if we can't tell the difference between God and Satan, then
00:31:47.940 we can't tell the difference between good and bad and right and wrong and true and false.
00:31:50.540 And so we've got to give up self-government, which increasingly we're doing to the Fauci's
00:31:55.000 of the world.
00:31:56.140 And that's too bad.
00:31:57.060 That's really, really too bad.
00:32:01.280 I like self-government.
00:32:03.160 I like our constitutional system.
00:32:05.000 I want to keep it.
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00:33:09.920 We'll be right back with The Mailbag.
00:33:13.780 All right, first question from Kay.
00:33:25.020 Hey, Michael, can you describe what terrible beliefs Noam Chomsky holds and why he's a
00:33:29.220 scumbag, pinko, commie, trash, lefty?
00:33:31.560 Thank you.
00:33:35.180 I think you've done a fair enough job at that, Kay.
00:33:38.280 You know, Noam Chomsky is a very famous leftist intellectual, and you can still watch a lot
00:33:42.520 of his debates.
00:33:43.840 So much of it has to do with the Vietnam War.
00:33:46.380 That's where he really started to find his political voice.
00:33:48.740 You can see debates between him and Buckley, for instance, and others as well.
00:33:53.140 I think you're right.
00:33:54.140 He holds a lot of commie, trash, lefty, pinko views, but it's worth pointing out with Chomsky.
00:34:00.960 Chomsky is a linguist.
00:34:02.300 That's his area of expertise, and he has very interesting things to say about linguistics,
00:34:06.640 and I'm very interested in the things he has to say about linguistics.
00:34:10.080 He's probably best known as a public intellectual for talking about politics, for talking about
00:34:14.500 American imperialism, for talking about aspects of even of our domestic society, and he's
00:34:21.340 very bad when he's talking about those things.
00:34:23.560 It is a reminder that just because someone has brilliant insight into one field does not
00:34:29.400 mean that they will have brilliant insight into all fields.
00:34:32.380 And so I actually, I don't beat up on Chomsky too much, because he is genuinely and a very
00:34:37.320 intelligent man who has some very interesting things to say about some things, but he's
00:34:40.540 got really dumb things to say about other things, and so we've got to make sure that
00:34:43.520 we use our prudence and our judgment to know where we should listen to him and where
00:34:48.240 we probably shouldn't.
00:34:49.380 From Joe.
00:34:49.880 So, dear Michael, oh swarthiest one, after watching your show from last week about not
00:34:54.320 fighting with pigs because we would both get dirty and they would like it, I decided
00:34:58.000 to stop engaging a leftist friend of mine from our days at our Catholic high school.
00:35:01.780 The discussions turned into one-sided attacks, which ended in her referring to me as leftists
00:35:06.180 often do, racist, homophobe, blah, blah, blah.
00:35:09.960 If we are not to engage in debate with these people, because they never have good intentions,
00:35:14.540 what should we do to possibly help these misguided souls, a fellow sinner?
00:35:18.380 Well, it depends what kind of debate we're talking about.
00:35:22.240 If you're talking about the kind of debate that would persuade somebody, that can take
00:35:27.600 different forms.
00:35:28.680 I mean, I always answer people's questions.
00:35:30.820 I don't go proselytizing all the time, but I always do answer people's questions, even
00:35:35.740 if they're not going to like the answer.
00:35:37.360 And I do so in a way that I try to employ various rhetorical devices to be more persuasive to
00:35:43.120 them.
00:35:43.480 There's nothing wrong with that.
00:35:44.580 You don't need to be flamboyant about everything and have the MAGA hat on and start clubbing
00:35:48.300 your friends and ideological debate partners over the head all the time.
00:35:55.220 You can try to seduce them with a little bit of honey.
00:36:00.260 You know, honey catches more bees than vinegar does.
00:36:04.440 You don't want to be dishonest, but you do want to use various rhetorical devices.
00:36:08.240 However, if the purpose of the debate is, let's say it's before an audience and the
00:36:13.060 debate is really just a clobber the other guy, well, then that's going to involve you
00:36:15.980 using different tools.
00:36:17.220 You've got to be wise as a serpent, innocent as a dove, not the other way around.
00:36:22.840 From Cammie.
00:36:23.900 Hey, Michael.
00:36:24.640 Love the show.
00:36:25.380 Love hearing your mailbag advice.
00:36:26.940 That being said, here we go.
00:36:28.120 Here's the but.
00:36:28.940 I have a question.
00:36:30.140 I'm a woman in my mid-twenties, and in today's dating world, I am constantly being told by other
00:36:34.520 girls, if he wanted to, he would, meaning that if a guy is interested in you, he will
00:36:39.460 go out of his way to hang out with and make it known no matter what.
00:36:43.020 My brothers have told me they hate that phrase because it is not an absolute, and guys can
00:36:46.660 have insecurities and overthink things too.
00:36:48.640 This isn't to say that a guy shouldn't pursue you, but sometimes it might be more than if he
00:36:52.840 wanted to.
00:36:53.320 I would love to hear your opinion on this.
00:36:54.960 Sincerely, a woman needs a man like jelly needs peanut butter.
00:36:57.740 Not needed, but much better together.
00:37:00.920 Your brothers are right.
00:37:02.080 Actually, I think my mailbag is good evidence of this.
00:37:05.820 How many times do I get letters in from young men who say, Michael, how do I talk to a girl?
00:37:10.280 There's a girl that I like, but I don't know how to talk to her.
00:37:12.180 There's a girl.
00:37:12.720 How do I go up to her?
00:37:13.640 What do I say?
00:37:14.360 What do I do?
00:37:15.080 Yeah, I mean, this has always been true throughout all of history, and I think this may especially
00:37:19.440 be true now because men are extremely confused by feminism, and they're told that traditionally
00:37:24.220 masculine virtues and behaviors are toxic and poisonous, and they shouldn't engage in them.
00:37:29.040 So they're very confused.
00:37:29.960 The idea that a man would pursue a woman is now considered shocking and politically incorrect.
00:37:35.480 It was true throughout all of human history, but now it's considered really unfashionable.
00:37:41.580 So yes, I think it's perfectly right for women to express their interest in a man.
00:37:47.640 This doesn't mean you're going to behave exactly like a man would, but it does mean you can flirt
00:37:54.160 a little bit with the guy, express some sort of interest.
00:37:56.400 I think it's great.
00:37:57.480 It was a great relief to me in my younger single days when a woman would express some
00:38:02.360 interest, so I know I'm not going in totally blind, and I suspect it would be even more
00:38:06.820 of a relief to men these days who are even more confused by the madness of feminism and
00:38:11.740 modernity.
00:38:12.560 From Brandon, dear Michael, mostly peaceful podcaster.
00:38:16.140 My question is in regard to Christianity.
00:38:18.120 I became a Christian roughly three years ago and have worked hard to strengthen my faith.
00:38:23.600 I'm by nature a very skeptical person, which has presented many obstacles for me along the
00:38:29.800 way with being confident in my beliefs.
00:38:32.560 I'm going to pause it right there.
00:38:34.760 Forget who said this.
00:38:36.380 It was either Ronald Knox or Fulton Sheen or John Henry Newman.
00:38:39.640 I don't remember.
00:38:40.520 I always confuse all of their quotes.
00:38:41.580 The line is this, 10,000 questions do not make one doubt.
00:38:47.900 Yes, you can have problems.
00:38:50.140 You can have questions.
00:38:51.100 You can not quite get it.
00:38:52.340 That is part of faith.
00:38:54.340 I mean, by definition, you can't comprehend God.
00:38:56.560 If you could, he wouldn't be God.
00:38:58.100 So that's fine, and I think grappling with these things intellectually will ultimately
00:39:02.040 strengthen your faith if you continue to grapple with them.
00:39:04.900 Okay, you go on.
00:39:05.740 The biggest hurdle that I can't seem to quite get around is the idea that there are people
00:39:10.840 who practice other religions, Islam to be specific, that feel just as confident in their
00:39:15.440 religion as we do in ours.
00:39:16.860 Understanding that both of these cannot be true, how do you gain confidence in the Gospels
00:39:20.840 and in your faith more specifically knowing that others out there feel just as convicted?
00:39:25.060 Okay, I have a few things to say about this.
00:39:29.480 One, I assume you're a conservative.
00:39:33.720 Not everyone who listens to this show is conservative.
00:39:35.560 We have a strong, healthy number of liberals, moderates, and even some leftists who listen.
00:39:41.480 But statistically speaking, you're likely to be more on the conservative side of the
00:39:44.760 aisle.
00:39:45.900 But half the country doesn't agree with you, and they're just as strong in their convictions
00:39:49.400 as you are in yours.
00:39:50.960 So does that mean that you can't possibly be right because people disagree with you about
00:39:54.420 politics?
00:39:55.480 No, obviously not.
00:39:57.860 So if you believe that politics has some kind of objective standard, people can be right
00:40:04.180 or wrong.
00:40:04.540 Some things are true.
00:40:05.320 Some things are false.
00:40:06.500 Why do you not believe that about religion?
00:40:08.900 I suppose you might not believe that about religion because we're told today that religion
00:40:13.700 is just a sort of subjective feeling or value or preference.
00:40:16.980 And it's just a kind of quirk of history.
00:40:18.960 And so back in the day, people believe this.
00:40:21.280 Now people believe this.
00:40:22.240 Soon, someday, they'll believe this next thing.
00:40:23.540 It's just kind of a weird facet of human nature.
00:40:26.440 But that's not true.
00:40:27.340 Religion is the fundament.
00:40:28.660 It's the basis of all knowledge and all human society.
00:40:33.560 So some things, just like in politics, because all politics ultimately is theological, some
00:40:38.780 things are going to be true, some things are going to be false, some things are going
00:40:40.600 to be good, some things are going to be bad.
00:40:41.500 Now in the case of Islam, I want to be careful here because I have a great deal of respect
00:40:47.560 for practicing Muslims and I find that I can speak to practicing Muslims in a much deeper
00:40:54.720 way than I can speak to your average decadent secular lib atheist because the practicing
00:41:00.340 Muslims believe in God.
00:41:01.800 They at least accept that basis of reality.
00:41:05.000 Whereas the kind of decadent, apathetic modern libs, they just say like, I don't know, I just
00:41:09.180 want to buy stuff and sleep around and just, I don't know, pleasure myself.
00:41:14.600 I have a great deal of respect for Muslims.
00:41:17.020 However, I have religious disagreements with Muslims.
00:41:20.020 I have a basic one would be, well, I suppose just as in the history of religion, Islam develops
00:41:26.300 as an historical circumstance because Muhammad has an encounter with a heretical Christian
00:41:30.280 monk.
00:41:31.200 The heretical Christian monk is known as Bahira in the Arabic tradition and Sergius in the
00:41:35.500 Western tradition.
00:41:36.440 And nobody denies that this guy existed.
00:41:38.460 And then sometime later, Muhammad develops Islam.
00:41:42.200 Muslims believe as a revealed religion.
00:41:44.340 Christians believe as a Christian heresy.
00:41:47.020 And you can see the many ways in which it has similarities to other Christian heresies,
00:41:52.020 notably denying the divinity of Christ, though admiring him in some ways.
00:41:57.100 In its belief in the total transcendence of God, of Allah, that God is pure will.
00:42:03.420 Christianity believes that God is logos.
00:42:05.420 God is the divine logic of the universe.
00:42:07.180 In Islam, they believe that Allah is pure will.
00:42:12.180 And Pope Benedict XVI in the wonderful Regensburg Address quotes Ibn Hazm as describing this distinction.
00:42:20.000 So that would be one difference that I think is just not tenable.
00:42:23.200 I think that's why Islam kind of falls apart when you really start to prod it, whereas Christianity holds up.
00:42:30.680 The other aspects here, I think, is if you engage with the person of Christ, I think you find that he is who he says he is.
00:42:39.260 And therefore, he cannot be the presentation of him in Islam or any of the other religions or any of the other heretical Christian sects or anything else.
00:42:46.600 So what you need to do is recognize that just as you would in a scientific pursuit, you know, we were talking about the evidence that men are not women earlier,
00:42:55.880 just as you would in a political pursuit, the idea that some things are good and bad and more efficient and less efficient in the political sphere,
00:43:03.680 so too you can apply your faculties of reason according to objective reality to the religious sphere.
00:43:08.860 And I think Christianity wins out.
00:43:10.940 I say this as a former atheist of ten years who has studied in some depth most of the world religions, read the Koran.
00:43:19.160 You know, I'm by no means an expert on these things, but I have at least thought about them.
00:43:23.420 And I was convinced, and you should be too.
00:43:25.400 From Hallie, hello, Mr. Knowles.
00:43:27.120 Just got a signed copy of your book, Speechless, Controlling Roads, Controlling Minds.
00:43:30.340 Can't wait to start reading it.
00:43:31.280 Thank you, Hallie.
00:43:31.860 That's great.
00:43:32.480 My question for you is, in regard to the claim that racism is built into the foundation of the Constitution and America as a country,
00:43:39.800 I certainly don't believe that, but I wanted to ask how I would refute this statement when someone uses the example of the three-fifths compromise,
00:43:45.960 which I actually learned in grade school.
00:43:48.640 Sad how much education has gone downhill.
00:43:50.300 Love to hear how you would argue against this.
00:43:51.580 Well, in the case of the three-fifths compromise, this was a compromise when the Constitution was being formed.
00:43:58.500 And the issue was not as modern liberals present it.
00:44:02.600 But the modern left will say that the proof of America's white supremacy is they believed that blacks were only three-fifths, rather, of a person.
00:44:11.440 And you say, what do you think that means?
00:44:15.020 Do you think the compromise was the South wanted to believe that blacks were not people at all,
00:44:19.780 and then the good, free North wanted to believe that blacks were real people?
00:44:22.960 Was that the distinction?
00:44:23.800 Because it was actually the opposite.
00:44:24.820 It was the South that wanted to count, for purposes of political representation in the House of Representatives,
00:44:31.680 they wanted to count black slaves as full people, because then that would grow their population numbers.
00:44:39.260 The North, and the people who opposed slavery in particular, wanted to count black slaves not as people at all,
00:44:45.640 precisely because they believed in their humanity, and they didn't want the South to have disproportionate representation in the federal government.
00:44:52.260 So they came to this compromise.
00:44:55.320 At the time of the ratification, there were deep debates over slavery.
00:45:00.340 First of all, racism is a word that doesn't mean anything anymore.
00:45:04.600 And the only, if it means not having sort of antipathy for people of other races,
00:45:10.600 or if it even means not making any judgments based on race of other people,
00:45:15.100 then surely we are the only society in the history of the world that has not been racist.
00:45:18.840 Every other society, everywhere else in the world is.
00:45:22.260 So that's a perfectly wonderful thing about us.
00:45:23.980 But then, why would you hold us, in particular, responsible for racism?
00:45:28.360 The thing that we uniquely don't engage in.
00:45:31.900 That would be very, very crazy.
00:45:34.040 Furthermore, at the time of the Constitution, there were people arguing strenuously against slavery.
00:45:38.400 Even people who own slaves.
00:45:40.200 Because this is a fallen world, and we deal with sin and difficult circumstances.
00:45:44.140 And then we got rid of slavery rather quickly, actually.
00:45:46.740 Within some decades of the ratification.
00:45:48.440 What about us?
00:45:50.800 What are people going to say about us?
00:45:51.860 We kill a million babies a year.
00:45:53.740 And it's totally legal, and it's fine.
00:45:55.180 And we're not even fighting that hard against it.
00:45:57.520 Is America a rotten, infanticidal place?
00:46:00.940 Yeah, in some ways.
00:46:01.960 But we're doing our best.
00:46:03.440 And so the question is, do you love your country?
00:46:04.880 Do you not love your country?
00:46:05.700 Do you want to defend your country and improve your country in some ways or not?
00:46:09.080 I certainly would like to.
00:46:10.060 But the framing is really what matters here.
00:46:12.260 Final question from Andrew.
00:46:13.260 Hey, Michael.
00:46:13.600 Do you think morality is subjective or objective?
00:46:15.380 I see an overwhelming amount of people with the mindset that it's subjective.
00:46:18.260 And I personally think that's a dangerous opinion to have.
00:46:20.500 Because if morality is subjective, then one could morally justify anything.
00:46:24.360 You're right.
00:46:25.100 It has to be objective.
00:46:26.560 Or there's just no such thing as morality.
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