Ep. 802 - Getting Over Self-Government
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After lying to us and flip-flopping on just about every single aspect of the Chinese coronavirus for the past 18 months, public health officials are furious that some Americans just don t want to take the experimental drug that they keep peddling.
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After lying to us and flip-flopping on just about every single aspect of the Chinese coronavirus
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for the past 18 months, public health officials are furious that some Americans just don't want
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to take the experimental drug that they keep peddling. Dr. Fauci has had enough, okay? He's
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had enough to hear with your political objections, and he wants you to get over them.
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This is not complicated. We're not asking anybody to make any political statement one
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way or another. We're saying try and save your life and that of your family and that
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of the community. We have so many things, as you said, so many diseases that I deal with
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that don't have solutions. It's very frustrating. You don't have a treatment or you don't have
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a vaccine. Here we have a vaccine that's highly, highly effective in preventing disease and
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certainly in preventing severe disease and hospitalization. It's easy to get, it's free,
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and it's readily available. So, you know, you've got to ask, what is the problem? Get over it.
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Get over this political statement. Just get over it and try and save the lives of yourself and your
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family. Get over your politics. Get over your self-government and take the vax, sheep.
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Well, you know, some Americans don't want to get over our political views. Some are fighting back
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in the Senate race in Ohio, in the courts against big tech oligarchs, and in schools around the
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country. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
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Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from IdahoMan54, quoting Jim Morrison,
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who says, I've noticed that when people are joking, they're usually dead serious. And when they're
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dead serious, they're usually pretty funny. This is exactly how to look at what the left says. I
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could not possibly agree more. You know what else is a joke? Going into the brick and mortar auto
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parts store for your auto parts when you could go to rockauto.com. Rockauto.com is so much easier
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than walking into a store and someone demanding quick answers to things like, hey, is your Odyssey
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an LX or an EX? And then they usually just have to order the part online, probably from rockauto.com.
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And then you've got to wait and wait and spend and spend probably twice as much. It's just,
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it's pathetic. It's seriously, when you could just go to rockauto.com, a family company got the lowest
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prices possible. They don't change their prices according to all these stupid gimmicks. You know,
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Tuesday afternoon, that's when you have to order your fuel pump assembly. No, I don't think so.
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Reliably low prices, the same prices for pros such as myself and do-it-yourselfers such as you. And
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the catalog is so simple to navigate, even I can do it. It's very, very impressive. You can choose
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all the parts available for your vehicle. You can choose the brands, the specs, whatever you want.
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Go to rockauto.com right now, see all the parts available for your car or truck. And then write
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Knowles, K-N-A-W-L-E-S in their, how did you hear about us box? So they know that we sent you.
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Dr. Fauci says, get over your political views and just save your life. You take the vax,
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just even if you've already had the virus, by the way, even if you're, you already have immunity,
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even if you're in one of the many demographic groups that faces an infinitesimally small
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serious risk from coronavirus, you've got to save your life by taking the experimental drug.
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That has had some questions raised about it, even by the CDC, some questions, especially when it's
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being taken by young people, just get over it. This is what progressivism does. Under progressivism,
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everything becomes political except for politics, which is depoliticized. Your sneakers become political.
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Your choice of sandwich becomes political. The sports you watch become political,
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political, but politics is taken out of your control. The people lose their political power
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because all that power goes to egghead technocrats like Dr. Fauci, unaccountable to the American people.
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Presidents come and go since Ronald Reagan, but Dr. Fauci remains. He will outlive us all,
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have no doubt about that. I think we, we do have a political objection. I think we ought to have a
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political say, not just a personal say, which I think is fair enough. People saying, look, I'm assessing
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my own risk. I'm assessing the demands that are being made of me by my school, by my community,
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by my work or whatever. And I'm going to make a prudential judgment. If I think that I'm really
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at risk from taking this vaccine, I'm going to avoid it. If I think it's kind of up in the air,
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whatever, I, maybe I'll take it. And if I really want to take the vaccine because I'm in some at risk
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category, okay, I'll take that too. That would be a personal judgment, but I'm saying we also
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have the political right to say, no, you little jerk. You don't get to force all of us to take
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this experimental drug and you're not going to go door to door to do it. The, the former head
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of Planned Parenthood, Dr. Liana Nguyen just came out with a column in the Washington Post
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describing the political aspect of vaccination. And I think some conservatives are not taking the
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political aspect seriously enough. They're saying, look, it's my, my, my body, my choice is actually
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what a lot of conservatives are saying. And ironically, the former head of Planned Parenthood
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is saying the opposite. She's saying it's your body, but it's not your choice. She says, quote,
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vaccination is not just an individual decision, but one that affects the health of others.
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You don't say, now, how can we apply this logic to say other aspects of our public policy,
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like the million babies a year killed through abortion?
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Obviously there is some hypocrisy going around. I think there is hypocrisy
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on the part of the left here. I think there's hypocrisy on the part of Liana Nguyen,
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but I don't think it's exactly hypocrisy on the part of conservatives. So the reason it's hypocrisy
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on the part of Liana Nguyen is that abortion directly involves two people. It involves the mother
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and involves the baby and the mother kills the baby. That's, that's what abortion is, right?
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Or in the case of forced abortion, as happens in China, you've got doctors killing the babies
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against their, their mother's will. Okay. Well, that's not good. That, that, and now to say,
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well, look, because your vaccination will in a less direct way affect other people in your community
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or around the state or even around the country, that's why you shouldn't really have a say on what
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goes into your body. That is preposterous. But for the conservatives here who say you should not
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kill babies, but you also shouldn't make me get vaccinated. The, I don't think the issue here is
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so much individual liberty or, or the question of whether or not the state has any right to
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encourage vaccinations in any cases. I think we're going to get caught in a trap here. If we think
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about this only through the lens of my body, my choice, like the flawed logic of abortion. I don't
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think, I think we're gonna get caught in a trap if we think of it just as a matter of maximizing
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individual autonomy. I think we need to invoke some conservative virtues here, namely common
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sense and prudence. If this were medieval Europe and the bubonic plague, the black death were killing
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off huge portions of the population and there were no way to treat it. And there were very few
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precautions people could take. And then suddenly there was the black death vaccine that came out
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and it was kind of experimental, but it was relatively effective at stopping the plague.
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Then I think the state or the feudal kingdoms or whatever would have a pretty good argument for
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encouraging people to take the vaccine. But COVID ain't the plague. As we know, thankfully we should
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all be very happy. COVID is not nearly as deadly as many people told us that it was early on during the
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epidemic. Not even close. And for many demographic groups, other than the very older people who are
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quite ill, who have a lot of comorbidities, it's not particularly fatal at all. And in young people,
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they face very, very, very little risk of any serious complications. So that's going to be a
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different calculation then. It's not, it's not as clear. It's not an ideology in five bullet points
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written on a napkin. In all cases, the government has the right to tell you to get the vaccine.
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In all cases, the government has no right to ever tell you. It's not that simple.
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Shallows are clear. As my friend, Father George Rutler says quite a lot. Shallows are clear.
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Profound things are a little murky. They're a little more complicated.
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And so I think in this, conservatives are going to be much more successful if we make arguments from
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common sense, from prudence, looking at the details of what this virus actually is and whether
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this warrants government thugs going door to door, trying to jab your kids who face a very,
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very, very, very, very, very, very little risk from this. By the way, by the way,
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you remember the story in Ohio, this was a few weeks ago now, that Ohio was trying to encourage
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everyone to get vaccinated. And so they created a vaccine lottery. There are other, other states and
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cities did this sort of thing where they would, they would say, if you get vaccinated, we'll give
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you a cheeseburger. One of the most disgusting scenes in politics was Bill de Blasio stuffing his face
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with cheeseburgers and French fries. Mm, yes, I eat, I get the vaccine. I get fries. Yes, you slop,
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you swine, you pigs. You, don't you want your feed bags? Get the vaccine. Which raised the
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question, if you need to bribe people with a million dollars to get this vaccine, maybe it's
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not that desirable. Maybe this virus is not as bad as everyone told us it was, since people are just
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not interested in getting it. But we were told the vaccine lottery, this was a huge success.
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Well, there's a study out now that says it just, it just wasn't. Right. Ohioans who got the vaccine
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were entered to win a million bucks and children who got the vaccine were entered to win a full
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ride scholarship to one of Ohio's state universities. This new study says the lottery did not increase
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the state's vaccination rate any more than states that did not offer a similar lottery. This according
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to Boston University's School of Medicine, I'm very pleased to see this. This, this will be a big
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shock to Dr. Fauci and all the other eggheads who think that they're so much better than all the
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American people and who think that they can boss us around and tell us what to do without any
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particular constitutional authority to do that, without any particular accountability to the people.
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The premise of the vaccine lottery and of Mayor de Bolshevik in New York stuffing his face and trying to get
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you to take a jab for a cheeseburger. The idea was that we are such appetitive little creatures
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that if you, if you just dangle a little candy in front of our face, we'll do whatever you tell us to
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do. But it turns out we're a little more serious than that. We're a little more human. We're a little
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more rational than that. And we think we have faculties of reason, you know, the prerequisites of
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self-government. You can't just, I think the ruling elite want to be able to rule us with a
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very elaborate system, sometimes a little bit of a simple system of sticks and carrots. You get the
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stick if you don't do what we tell you to do, and you get that delicious little carrots just if you
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keep running toward the goal that we set for you. But that's not quite how it works. It turns out
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that is coming up. It's not the conservatism of the past 20 years or so. The cut taxes and let the
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left rule the culture conservatism. The throw your hands up in the air and refuse to assert a political
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vision conservatism. The drag queen story hour is no worse than going to church on Sunday
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conservatism. I think that kind of silly court jester conservatism, I think that is kind of dead.
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I think a new, more assertive, more confident, more virtue oriented, more substantive conservatism
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is on the way up. And J.D. Vance, who's running for Senate in Ohio, is trying to channel that.
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J.D. Vance is the author of Hillbilly Elegy. It was a very popular book a few years ago.
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It became popular because it supposedly explained the kinds of deplorable people who voted for Donald
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Trump, for instance. And I'm not really making any point about J.D. Vance as a candidate right now.
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He's held lots of different views over the years. And so I'm not, this is neither an endorsement or a
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criticism of him. But I do think that he can tell which way the wind is blowing. And he is very much
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channeling in more what you would call populist conservatism, a more worker oriented conservatism,
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a more national conservatism. And one of the things he's calling for is term limits for the people
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who have been in government for a very, very long time. What about term limits? Would you be for term
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limits, J.D.? Yes, certainly. I mean, we definitely just got to get better people in there, which is why
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I'll put in another plug for J.D. Vance dot com. I mean, look, what what we have right now is a
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geriatric ruling class in our business community, but especially in our government community that
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doesn't even understand the companies that have become ultimately more powerful than the U.S.
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government. I mean, we saw after January 6th, a sitting duly elected president United States was
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kicked off of Twitter, kicked off of Facebook. And it's like our congressmen, our senators had no idea
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what to do about this. It's because we've given these companies too much power. And we need to get
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people in our Congress who understand these companies and can actually fight back against
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them. So I love his point on the companies. He's he's right. He's describing what Mitch McConnell
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called the woke parallel government and that Republicans are largely responsible for because
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while the left focused on social deregulation, the right focused on economic deregulation and
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the effect of that has been to empower woke corporations that have very little loyalty to
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our own country and that hate our way of life. And that's a very bad thing. I don't I don't like
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it when Google takes away my rights and upends my society any more than I like when the government
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does. So good stuff. But I disagree with him on term limits. I understand term limits. It's a complex
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question. There are people on both sides of it. I think generally it's a bad idea because term limits
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do not take away power from the government. Term limits do not fundamentally alter the relationship
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of the citizen and the community to the state. All they do is empower staff members and lobbyists.
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Someone is going to rule the the total amount of power in the federal government is not going to
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change. So when you enact term limits, what you're doing is reducing the power held by the elected
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officials and then just shifting it to the lobbyists or the permanent staff members on Capitol Hill
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or the administrative agencies, even more so than they already are empowered. So it seems to I
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understand the impulse to do it, but I think it's it's kind of misguided. And I hope hope JD changes
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his views on that because I do that he is channeling the right kind of conservatism, but it's a it's a
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little nebulous right now. It's a little bit up in the air. These are the things that people care
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about that they care about their jobs. They care about their local communities. They care about their way of
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life and they want to make sure that some zillionaire head of a multinational doesn't take all those
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things away from them. One thing that that people do not care about, and this has become clear over
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the past five, 10 years, is fighting wars overseas for dubious purposes. What do we do when you think
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about the war in Afghanistan, which has gone on now, what, 20 years? I don't think it's a partisan issue
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exactly. And I think the State Department basically wants us to be there. I think the
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liberal empire wants us to continue to have these little wars of empire. But I don't think it's a
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Republican issue. I think a lot of Republicans want to get out of Afghanistan. Trump ran in 2016
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on getting out of the Middle East because he said they were just big flops. They were crazy wars and
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it was a big mistake of George W. Bush. Same kind of arguments that Democrats were making before that,
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although even Barack Obama, for instance, runs for office on how Iraq was a terrible idea,
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but he didn't want to be seen as a weakling. So then he decided that Afghanistan was the good war.
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So he pulls out of Iraq to some degree and then he restarts the war in Afghanistan that had basically
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been winding down because he needed to have a good war. So Joe Biden right now is seeing which way the
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political winds are blowing and he is calling to draw down and pull out of Afghanistan, a continuation
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of what Trump was trying to do. And Jen Psaki was asked about this. He said, so what were we doing?
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Did we win? What's the goal? What are we doing in Afghanistan? And Jen Psaki cannot say that we
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declare victory. In terms of plans for the end for our men and women coming back, I don't have
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anything to preview, but we're not going to have a mission accomplished moment in this regard. It's a
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20-year war that has not been won militarily. We are proud of the men and women who have served,
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incredibly grateful. The president will note that in his remarks today, how grateful he is for
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their service and the families who have sacrificed over the last 20 years. And we will continue to
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press for a political outcome and a political solution. But beyond that, I think we're going
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to continue to look for ways to communicate why we make the choices we make. You mentioned mission
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accomplished. Has this mission not been accomplished? Well, I would say we did exactly what we wanted to
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do. What I was referring to, Jeff, is we're not having a moment of celebration. We're having a
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moment where we feel it's in our national security interest to bring our men and women serving home.
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Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. I got it. I got it at the first part when you said, look, this has been a
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20-year war. It's a complex war and there's not going to be a mission accomplished moment like George W.
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Bush had with Iraq before we realized that mission had not been accomplished yet.
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But then you said, wait, the mission has been accomplished. We did what we set out to do.
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What was that? What did we set out to do? If what we set out to do was kill Osama bin Laden,
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then I guess that mission was accomplished. But then what were we staying there for afterward?
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If the mission was to defeat terrorists in, well, terrorism really sprung up in Iraq and Syria,
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right, with the rise of ISIS. So what was going on in Afghanistan? If the mission was to get rid of
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the Taliban, that just didn't work because the Taliban are coming back in. What was the mission?
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The mission was whatever the foreign policy establishment wanted at the time. The mission
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was whatever the State Department wanted at the time. I think the American people are just as
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confused about this sort of thing as Jen Psaki appears to be. And that is a big problem. I think
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we've got to be much clearer. When, when, when Dr. Fauci says, get over it, get over your political
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objections. Having the government force you all to get a vaccine is not political. Good grief. He just,
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he has this progressive conception of the political, which is so, so desiccated.
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A public act such as mass government compelled vaccination is by definition a political act.
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But he just, when, when he says it's not political, what he's saying is you have no right to have an
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opinion about it. And for too long, that has been not just the case in public health. It's been true
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in foreign policy. That's been true in trade policy. You're just not allowed to have an opinion.
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You're not, you're just not one of the smart people. You don't get it. These trade deals that are
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going to hollow out the manufacturing in America. They're, they're like obviously true. They're the
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best. Okay. And you have no right to question that. You're just a deplorable, irredeemable
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idiot. You owe these, you, you're questioning the wars overseas. You just don't get it. You just don't
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leave it to the experts. Okay. Leave it to the state department. Leave it to Dr. Fauci. Leave it to
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the administrative state. Leave it to the trade negotiators. Leave it to the WTO. Leave it to,
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leave it to everyone, but you get over self-government. That's what they're telling you to do.
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I don't want to get over self-government. Although our elected leaders are not exactly
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instilling confidence. Joe Biden tried to answer some questions about what was going on in Afghanistan.
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Didn't go well. For the release of detained Americans, including, uh, Mark, uh, excuse me,
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Ferris. I want to pronounce the name correctly. I miss, I misspoke. And this, uh, starting this month,
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we're going to begin to re re reloc. We're going to begin relocation flights for Afghanistan SIV
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applicants. Uh, half have gotten on aircraft and come commercial flights and come and other half
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believe they want to stay. We went for two reasons. One to
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bring Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell. As I said at the time,
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I'm not even going to make fun of this. This is extremely sad and pathetic. And the man is
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obviously not up to being president. And this is probably why the establishment just continues
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to rule and rule. It's why Joe Biden refers to they all the time. Well, they told me to say this.
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They didn't let me say this. They don't want me to do that. The man clearly cannot do the job.
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While Joe Biden flounders, while Joe Biden struggles to say things, to articulate things,
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to understand what is going on in his government, Donald Trump appears to have something of a laser
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focus on the, the issues that really matter beyond wars overseas, beyond trade, beyond even immigration,
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free speech. Topic near and dear to my heart, as you well know. Donald Trump, after announcing his
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lawsuit against the big tech companies whom he is suing for deplatforming and censoring him,
00:23:40.040
he has an op-ed in the wall street journal outlining the lawsuit. Why I'm suing big tech
00:23:45.340
subheader. If Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube can censor me, they can censor you. And believe me,
00:23:50.400
they are. I really like this column. I think people who are making fun of this lawsuit
00:23:57.180
are pretty misguided here. I think they have the same, same sort of attitude about politics that
00:24:03.180
Dr. Fauci does. Just get over it. Get over it. Build your own Facebook, you twerps. Build your,
00:24:08.940
you proles, you peasants. Here's what President Trump says in the column. Perhaps most egregious in
00:24:14.840
the weeks after the election, big tech blocked the social media accounts of the sitting president.
00:24:18.440
If they can do it to me, they can do it to you. Believe me, they are. At the end of the column,
00:24:23.300
the Supreme Court has held that Congress can't use private actors to achieve what the Constitution
00:24:29.140
prohibits it from doing itself. In effect, big tech has been illegally deputized as the censorship
00:24:36.620
arm of the U.S. government. This should alarm you no matter your political persuasion. It is
00:24:41.800
unacceptable, unlawful, and un-American. So the argument that Trump is making is that his First
00:24:46.900
Amendment rights were violated. But Michael, you say, private corporations can't violate a First
00:24:53.320
Amendment right. That's just an issue for the government. Right. The argument that Trump is
00:24:56.580
making is that these private corporations aren't really so private, that they're actually part of
00:25:01.080
what I would call the blob, that they work in tandem with the government, with the liberal
00:25:05.680
establishment, and that they act on the government's bidding explicitly or implicitly. When the government,
00:25:13.380
when the Democrats are threatening to impose penalties on big tech, if they don't rein in some
00:25:21.780
of the speech of conservatives, including the duly elected sitting president, big tech might then act
00:25:27.480
on January 7th or January 8th of 2021. Eugene Volokh, very serious lawyer, a very good commentator on
00:25:34.740
these legal issues. He thinks that this argument might have a chance, but it's a big if, if they can
00:25:40.040
prove that the government is in, is in any way really pressuring the companies to do this sort
00:25:44.240
of thing. Fair enough. I do think, however, that the issue here is much bigger than just this
00:25:49.740
very narrow legal issue of did the government pressure the corporations to, to take away Trump's
00:25:56.560
platform. I think the issue is who controls speech? Who controls speech? Even if the government
00:26:04.200
didn't pressure these private corporations, if the private corporations control 90% of the flow of
00:26:08.680
information around the internet, which is the public square, which then will decide how we govern
00:26:13.940
ourselves because speech is politics in a republic. If they are doing that, that alone is reason to use
00:26:20.440
our political power to break them up. I asked Bill Barr about this when I got to meet him back when he
00:26:25.260
was attorney general. I said, what should we do on big tech? He said there were three ways to attack
00:26:28.840
big tech. Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which we've talked about quite a lot.
00:26:33.260
Fraud. They amassed their critical mass through fraud by telling you you could, you could get
00:26:39.060
information from people you follow when actually often you can't. And antitrust, that we just need
00:26:45.300
to update our antitrust laws, that these companies are operating in a monopolistic way. I said, which
00:26:50.140
one should people pursue? And he said, all of the above. Yes, just do it. Just do it. That's a huge
00:26:55.160
threat. So what Donald Trump is doing here, and he's doing it in a somewhat narrow way. I think we need to do
00:26:59.840
it in an even more assertive way, is reasserting our political rights, reasserting an authentically
00:27:09.380
political sphere in this progressive world that has taken politics away from the people. Where Dr.
00:27:16.800
Fauci says, get over it. Get over your politics. Trump says, I'm not going to get over it.
00:27:22.520
I'm not going to get over it on your public health measures. I'm not going to get over it on your free
00:27:27.020
speech measures. I'm not going to get over it on anything. I am going to keep my political rights
00:27:32.200
and my political power. It's un-American for you to take that away from me. Speaking of un-American,
00:27:38.340
by the way, I have to touch on this story. You remember a few weeks ago, there was a big hubbub
00:27:44.280
because the University of North Carolina had not offered tenure to Nicole Hannah-Jones. Nicole Hannah-Jones
00:27:51.560
is the fabulist behind the 1619 project at the New York Times. She was completely unqualified to hold
00:27:58.120
a tenured professorship at that school. She doesn't have a PhD, first of all. It's very strange to have
00:28:03.140
tenured professors without PhDs. She's won a lot of fancy awards from the liberal establishment,
00:28:08.480
like the Pulitzer Prize for essays, an essay that had its central thesis as a lie, the lie that the
00:28:16.120
American Revolution was fought to defend slavery. No serious historian defends that assertion.
00:28:21.260
She won the MacArthur Genius grant, also undeservedly, but she simply was not qualified
00:28:28.580
to be this professor. Then there was political backlash. Then UNC offered her the tenured
00:28:33.340
professorship, which is really pathetic and reflects poorly on the school. But then the best outcome
00:28:38.240
happened. Nicole Hannah-Jones turned it down, and she took a professorship at Howard University.
00:28:44.000
She's also unqualified to teach there, but neither here nor there. But I love it. I love that this
00:28:50.080
weak, simpering, pathetic UNC, which used to be considered a pretty good school, they stood up for
00:28:59.520
something. Then they couldn't withstand the public pressure from the liberal establishment. Then they
00:29:03.780
caved, and they got a lot of egg in their face. According to a Rasmussen report out today,
00:29:09.840
78% of voters believe that it is at least somewhat important for schools to teach the traditional
00:29:16.940
values of Western civilization. 52% believe it is very important, so the majority think it's very
00:29:21.740
important. Only 14% of voters do not think that teaching traditional Western values is important,
00:29:26.920
and only 4% say it's not important at all. So what people want their kids to be taught in schools
00:29:32.000
is the West. They want to be taught classical education. Now, unfortunately, what the left has
00:29:40.480
been defending for a long time is the antithesis of Western education, namely BLM. BLM sets itself up
00:29:47.380
explicitly on its About Us page as opposing, for instance, the Western-prescribed nuclear family.
00:29:53.420
The BLM sets itself out on its About page that it has since deleted as a very radical organization.
00:29:59.560
The founders of it described themselves as trained Marxists. So Democrats had defended that for a
00:30:05.040
long time. Now they seem to be running away from the extremes. Chris Cuomo is now doing a total
00:30:09.840
About face. He's saying he never supported BLM violence. What good is it to have a mouth that says
00:30:15.700
blue lives matter if you're going to have hands and feet that do this? Around 140 officers assaulted,
00:30:23.100
some very badly. This is the truth. Period. It is no less the truth because Black Lives Matter supporters
00:30:33.040
committed acts of violence too. Even if you want to believe that the media was okay with what they did,
00:30:41.380
which sure as hell isn't true on this show. But even if you want to say they were, it doesn't change
00:30:47.780
this and be clear. What happened on January 6th has no equal in terms of what and who was targeted
00:30:58.620
and how. And you know it. It sure as hell didn't happen on this. No one defended Black Lives Matter
00:31:06.640
on this show and all the violence that they engaged with. Right? Right? Roll the tape.
00:31:10.500
Now too many see the protests as the problem. No, the problem is what forced your fellow citizens
00:31:17.600
to take to the streets. Persistent and poisonous inequities and injustice. And please show me
00:31:24.920
where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful. Please show me. So Chris Cuomo
00:31:29.800
himself was defending violent BLM riots. Now he's realizing, gosh, that doesn't, that's not playing
00:31:35.160
very well. And I want to accuse the right of being violent. So yeah, okay, we're going to pull that
00:31:40.000
back. They're realizing that the extremes are very tough here. They're realizing that people are
00:31:45.200
asserting their political rights again. Continue to assert those political rights. That's a good
00:31:49.280
thing. These, these eggheads, these technocrats, these liberal establishmentarians don't want you
00:31:53.800
to do it, which should make us readier all the more. By the way, Ben today is going to be talking
00:31:58.900
about a very important political issue, your yoga pants. So make sure you go check out Ben's show
00:32:03.800
today. Also really appreciate all of you who made Speechless the number one bestselling book in the
00:32:11.780
country heading into the 4th of July weekend. This, according to Publishers Weekly's list of
00:32:17.320
bestsellers, a Publishers Weekly list directly tied to book sales around the country. Brick and mortar
00:32:23.780
online, no bulk sales, none of that sort of stuff. We sold an unprecedented amount of books since then.
00:32:31.000
And I think a lot of this is because the New York Times snubbed us. The New York Times,
00:32:36.300
New York Times has done this to conservatives before, but it's never been this blatant. It's
00:32:41.360
never been this egregious just by the numbers. Speechless should have been number one on the
00:32:46.420
New York Times bestseller list. But the New York Times admitted some years ago in a court case
00:32:49.560
that the bestseller list is not actually a bestseller list. The bestseller list for the New York
00:32:55.000
Times is an editorial product. And so if they don't like a book, they won't permit it on there.
00:32:59.680
So occasionally they'll allow a book by a conservative author on. Right now they have
00:33:03.460
Bill O'Reilly's book on. But you'll notice Bill O'Reilly's book, it's not a political book. It's
00:33:07.600
just kind of a history book. It's about the mob. So they'll let that on. They tend not to permit
00:33:12.240
books onto the list that actually threaten what they're trying to do, that actually threaten the
00:33:16.920
narrative. So I'm really honored that they snubbed it. And I think it is a good blurb for the book.
00:33:23.600
We actually put it on the cover. It says number one national bestseller snubbed by the New York
00:33:26.520
Times. So I really appreciate all of you who went out there and got it. If you haven't gotten it
00:33:29.800
already, go do it. And we'll be right back with the mailbag.
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Welcome back to the show. Now is my favorite time of the week, the mailbag. First question from
00:34:27.540
Camille. Hey, Michael. I'm a single woman in my mid-twenties in the dating world and have a
00:34:32.340
question. My mom and men and women from older generations always talk about how women hold
00:34:36.800
the power in relationships and dating. But to me, it seems like that power balance has shifted since
00:34:41.500
our culture has changed. More women are likely to sleep around with guys that they aren't in a
00:34:46.000
relationship with because society is preaching sex positivity. And this gives away a lot of the
00:34:50.620
power. This type of culture allows more and more guys to remain single because it's easy to get
00:34:54.600
what they want from girls. And they are reluctant to put in the effort for a girl who would make them
00:34:59.600
wait. I know your opinion on waiting for marriage, but what are your thoughts on the concept of the
00:35:04.600
power women have? And if you agree that it has shifted more toward men, sincerely, who runs the
00:35:09.040
world? No, seriously, who? Who? A reference to my cousin, Beyonce. You're totally right. Your
00:35:15.360
intuition is right. Older generations would think that women hold the power because women
00:35:19.880
withheld something that men really, really wanted until they got something out of it.
00:35:25.140
And then feminism convinced them to give up their leverage in romantic relationships. And that has
00:35:30.640
led to misery for women and has led to some physical pleasure for men, but I think probably
00:35:36.020
ultimately misery for men as well. And certainly that power dynamic has shifted dramatically, even now to
00:35:41.500
the point that some women who don't want to have sex before marriage will feel really pressured to do
00:35:47.620
that because they don't think that they'll be able to hold on to a guy because a guy can just move on to
00:35:52.000
any chicky he wants and get exactly what he desires. So yeah, that's a very big problem.
00:36:00.840
I am noticing a little bit of a shift when you look at young conservatives, and I don't mean
00:36:06.160
millennials. Somehow we always refer to millennials as the youngest generation. We're going to be 60 and
00:36:09.900
they're going to say, oh, you young millennials. But Gen Z, for instance, a lot of the memes coming
00:36:15.960
out of Gen Z, a lot of the arguments you hear from politically astute Gen Zers is that they don't
00:36:23.300
just want promiscuous sex, that they don't just want to look at porn all the time and move on girl
00:36:26.920
to girl to girl and swipe culture. They actually want a serious relationship. They want to get married.
00:36:33.600
They want to have a family. They want to have kids. That would be the way to stand to thwart history
00:36:37.580
yelling stop. The progressive march toward this drugged up, promiscuous, sex crazed culture would
00:36:46.020
be to say no to that. So find one of those guys. I think the trads, as they are called, are having
00:36:55.460
a real ascendancy right now. But the power has shifted. And so there's no denying that.
00:37:01.860
You are at a disadvantage. But I wouldn't be discouraged by that. I would stand for virtue
00:37:09.700
if you are so inclined to do that. Because I think ultimately that will be more gratifying,
00:37:14.240
even if it's a little tougher in the dating world right now. From Shelley, Michael, sweetheart. Thanks
00:37:18.500
for using my official title. I have recently had a disagreement with my husband. We are both
00:37:23.080
conservatives. And while he does not like it, he supports the burning of the American flag as free
00:37:27.020
speech. I told him that if I went into someone's home and burned a picture of them in front of their
00:37:31.220
family, as a symbol of the hatred I felt for them, that I would be at the very least arrested and
00:37:35.140
probably cast into the outer darkness where there's wailing and grinding of teeth. The flag is a symbol
00:37:39.340
of our American community. And the USA is our home. Burning a flag is not free speech. It is an act of
00:37:44.020
hatred and violence and terrorism against the American people and should be treated as such. Where that
00:37:48.360
ended the argument, he didn't seem entirely convinced. Do you have any additional arguments,
00:37:53.380
wisdom as to why the burning of our flag should not be considered free speech? And should the law have
00:37:56.920
consequences for those who take part in such acts? Yes. So for, for most of American history,
00:38:02.760
burning the American flag was not considered First Amendment protected free speech. There were laws
00:38:08.440
against this sort of thing. It was because it's an incoherent act. The flag is a symbol of the country.
00:38:14.720
And so if you assert your rights as an American to burn the symbol of America, that is an incoherent act,
00:38:21.720
right? And if you, if we do not have anything, any symbol that is sacred among us, if even the symbol
00:38:28.700
of the very country is not sacred, then nothing is sacred and nothing is binding us together. So that,
00:38:33.580
that was some of the argumentation for it. And if you just look at tradition, there were laws against
00:38:37.740
this sort of thing. And then the Supreme Court with the support of very conservative judges like
00:38:44.740
Antonin Scalia said, no, burning the flag is an expressive act. It is political speech. And therefore,
00:38:51.100
while it is odious, it is protected by the First Amendment. Scalia said, this is almost verbatim.
00:38:57.880
I'm only somewhat paraphrasing that if he were king, he would throw into jail every scruffy bearded
00:39:04.860
weirdo who burns the American flag, but he is not king. Now I am inclined to favor the, the arguments
00:39:12.540
from the other side of that Supreme Court case. I think William Rehnquist was on the other side of
00:39:15.940
that case where he just described the history of this, why this is a sort of unique symbol,
00:39:22.040
why this is not, not a protected speech. But regardless, we live where we are now. The court
00:39:27.680
has established this right, this First Amendment right to burn the American flag. I would favor
00:39:32.680
a constitutional amendment, I suppose is what you would need, or I would certainly favor some law
00:39:38.800
to criminalize it, to say, no, you really can't do this. There are limits to speech and we're not
00:39:45.580
going to do it. If, if you right now go out and burn a rainbow flag, you, you could be charged with
00:39:51.440
a hate crime. There was this case actually just came up some months ago where a guy ripped a rainbow
00:39:58.280
flag off of a church or something, some very, obviously very liberal church, and ripped it from
00:40:03.560
some private institution, burned it and was charged with a hate crime. Now the argument here was, well,
00:40:10.580
it was theft of property and then also a hate crime. One imagines if someone ripped an American
00:40:15.880
flag off of a building that wasn't his and burned it, he would not be charged with a hate crime. So
00:40:20.300
we do have sacred symbols in this country. We have sacred flags that you're really not allowed to
00:40:24.100
desecrate. It's just no longer the, it used to be the American flag and now it's the gay flag or the
00:40:28.820
progress flag or the BLM flag. Society will always have taboos, will always have standards, as I've,
00:40:34.820
as I've mentioned to you and I write about at length and speechless. So I just think we shouldn't
00:40:38.500
deny that. We shouldn't go nuts with this free speech absolutism that, that has really only led to
00:40:44.860
the erosion of traditional standards and the implementation of new leftist standards. We should
00:40:49.540
stand for something. And if you can't stand for the American flag, what can you stand for? From Nathan.
00:40:55.280
Hello, Michael. Thank you for all that you do. Congratulations on your new book. Thank you.
00:41:00.120
I was listening to your show and you talked about the death penalty. As a Christian,
00:41:03.560
does this go against the commandment thou shalt not kill? Or is this an exception as the people
00:41:07.460
receiving the death penalty have caused harm that cannot be punished enough? Thanks again.
00:41:11.560
It does not, it does not violate any Christian teaching to, to exercise the death penalty.
00:41:20.340
If a man sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed. It's not, not just true in the
00:41:28.620
book of Genesis. This is repeated throughout the Bible. And St. Paul himself writes that the
00:41:35.600
civil authority does not bear the sword in vain. That's as about as explicit as it gets throughout
00:41:41.300
history. The fathers and doctors of the church have rigorously defended the death penalty up to and
00:41:47.100
including St. Thomas Aquinas, one of the most brilliant men and most important doctors of the
00:41:51.280
church who ever lived. In recent years, some popes have suggested that as a practical matter,
00:41:59.280
the death penalty should not be practiced because while society has a right to defend itself today,
00:42:05.180
our criminal justice system is so great that we actually don't, don't really need to do it.
00:42:08.700
But recognize their guidance here is a prudential matter. It's not a principled matter. Even Pope
00:42:16.820
Francis, who seems extraordinarily opposed to the death penalty, he, even he could not change the
00:42:21.840
catechism to say that the death penalty is intrinsically evil because that would contradict
00:42:25.120
the Bible. That would contradict the New Testament, the Old Testament and the New Testament. It would
00:42:30.000
contradict the doctors of the church and he cannot do that. Powerful though he may be, he cannot do
00:42:34.220
that. Pope Benedict XVI said that Catholics may have a legitimate disagreement over the death
00:42:39.200
penalty. Pope John Paul II defended the death penalty in principle, though he, he did not really
00:42:43.480
defend it in practice. So yes, a Catholic certainly can, can defend the death penalty. There's no,
00:42:50.360
no issue there. And, and I do. I do, by the way, as a matter of justice, I think we're really skewing
00:42:57.560
our perception of, of justice if we do not defend that. Blessed Pope Pius IX not only defended the
00:43:04.080
death penalty. He carried them out in the papal states. And when he was asked for a reprieve
00:43:07.800
during the last execution of the papal states, he said, I cannot do it and I do not want to. So
00:43:13.500
pretty good to me. Good enough for blessed Pius IX. Good enough for me. Good enough for St. Paul.
00:43:18.900
Good enough for the book of Genesis. Good enough for me. From Marissa. Hey, Michael. Love the show.
00:43:23.280
Hope you can help answer a question that I have. I want to know if you believe in soulmates and what
00:43:29.560
is the Catholic take on that concept? I want to believe it's true, but it is hard, a hard concept to
00:43:33.980
grasp. Sincerely, a cynical, hopeless, romantic P.S. Careful with your answer because sweet little
00:43:39.320
Elisa may listen to today's episode. Well, no, it's, I'm glad you brought up sweet little Elisa.
00:43:43.700
I married my soulmate. No doubt about it. I, and not everyone gets to say that and I do. And that's,
00:43:49.240
isn't that great? But I will have a caveat here. I think I could have married maybe some other way.
00:43:57.780
I'm sure there are some other women out there that I could have married and had a perfectly fine life.
00:44:01.460
I think I have the best life I could possibly have. So if you want to call that soulmate and
00:44:05.280
sure, yeah, it makes sense to me. But I, I don't want to take this to such an extreme
00:44:10.540
that, that I say, you know, gosh, if it doesn't work out with your high school sweetheart or something,
00:44:15.100
then you're doomed to a life of misery. I don't think that's true because, because marriage is
00:44:19.700
not merely about that spark, that romantic love, but it is about, it's a real institution. It's a
00:44:24.220
sacrament. And so even, you know, I, I jump for joy in my marriage, but, but even people who don't,
00:44:30.960
even people who have tougher marriages, because it's a thing, because it's real, because it's not
00:44:35.520
just floating around in your head and it's not just about my feels, you know, it's because it's also
00:44:39.500
like about the things that you do and the way you behave and the thing you build together.
00:44:43.520
People can take even bad marriages, marriages where maybe you didn't marry your soulmate and,
00:44:47.740
and really make them into, to beautiful things. So yes, it's out there. There's, there's no question
00:44:54.040
that some people are better suited for you than others. And there's no question that providence
00:44:58.760
works in its own way. And there, there is a plan to, to the way that life unfolds.
00:45:06.480
But what you do matters as well. And, and if you are struggling in your marriage, you, there are
00:45:12.820
things that you can do to, to improve that. And if, even if you might seem a little incompatible,
00:45:17.740
it's not just about the subjective impulses that you both have. You can look toward objective
00:45:23.760
criteria and certain standards of behavior that, that will improve things. From Ian.
00:45:28.740
Hey, Michael, here is a question, which is sure to generate no controversy whatsoever.
00:45:34.400
What are your thoughts on the traditional Latin mass? Do you ever attend Latin masses or do you
00:45:38.160
stick to the Novus Ordo? That is the, the new mass in, in, invented by Vatican II. So happy you
00:45:44.880
published a book with words in it, Ian. Thank you very much. Yes, I, uh,
00:45:47.300
almost exclusively attend the Latin mass, the traditional Latin mass. If you haven't been to
00:45:51.620
one, especially if you're Catholic, I strongly recommend you find one. Society of, uh, or the
00:45:55.820
Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter does them. That one's very, uh, wonderful organization. Uh, the
00:46:01.160
Norbertines tend to do Latin masses. You'll, you'll, you'll, you might be able to find one in your
00:46:04.600
diocese, uh, or a reverent Novus Ordo. So the, the new mass, but maybe with the price, priest
00:46:09.680
facing the altar, maybe with a little Latin, a little chanting that, that will be good too.
00:46:12.920
So, uh, I think that sadly the liturgy after Vatican II, after the Second Vatican Council
00:46:19.980
in the 60s, really, really became hollowed out and, and is, is, uh, so much of the, the
00:46:26.080
beauty and therefore so much of the sense of truth and goodness that was in that, that
00:46:31.240
gorgeous liturgy was booted out in favor of sappy 70s power ballads on acoustic guitars,
00:46:37.100
you know, that, that often involve heresy. So I just, I would strongly recommend, strongly
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recommend, as you can tell, attending a Latin mass, even if you're not Catholic, by the
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way. Even if you have real problems or you think you have real problems with Catholic
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theology and the Catholic church, if you are a Protestant of any sort of denomination, you
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should attend a Latin mass just to know what you're talking about. I mean, this is the mass
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that shaped Western civilization for centuries and centuries and centuries and centuries. And
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you should know about that. You should be, that will enrich your own understanding, even
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if you, you feel at the moment that you, you disapprove of, uh, Catholic theology. From
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Max. Hey, Michael, as a man of history, I'd like to get your opinion on historical authenticity
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in movies. Movies like Braveheart and The Patriot have been heavily criticized for their historical
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inaccuracies, yet the movies themselves are very good. You know, it's funny, I was having
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dinner last night with some friends and we were discussing how great The Patriot is. While
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I understand the need to tell a story accurately, it seems unfair to hate a movie for inaccuracies,
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especially when the movie is either historical fiction or merely based on a true story. What
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are your thoughts? Thanks, I love the show. Deus vult. My man, means God wills it. It's
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funny, with my friends, we were actually talking about Gladiator 2, which is another historical
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movie with some historical inaccuracies. I think it's great. I think it's great. You need
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narrative. The plays of Shakespeare are not entirely concerned with historical accuracy,
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accuracy, okay? The highest works of art. Dante, not entirely concerned with historical accuracy,
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highest work of art probably in the West. Of course, there can be artistic license here. The
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left does it all the time, by the way. The left does it in that stupid Oliver Stone JFK movie,
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that stupid movie about Dick Cheney, Vice. We never worry about that, but then whenever there is a
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patriotic movie, whenever there's a movie that endorses a conservative point of view that has any
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little tiny thing off, even, they say, oh, it's a worthless movie because it's historically
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inaccurate. It's a work of art. Enjoy it as such. All right, that's our show. Enjoy some works of
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