The Michael Knowles Show - July 30, 2021


Ep. 817 - The Blob Declares Us The Enemy of Their State


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The 500th day of the flu pandemic has passed, and public health officials are reinstituting masks all across the country. Meanwhile, the Atlantic Magazine calls MyPillow owner Mike Lindell a threat to democracy. And Nancy Pelosi orders Capitol Hill police to arrest the unmasked.

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00:00:00.000 We have officially passed the 500th day of 15 days to slow the spread and public health officials
00:00:07.520 are marking the occasion by reinstituting mask orders all around the country. And not to be
00:00:13.420 outdone, the White House celebrated this milestone by spread slowing once more and threatening to
00:00:21.180 lock down the entire country again. President Biden says that we are not returning to lockdowns,
00:00:26.420 shutdowns and school closures. But he also once said that we didn't have to wear masks anymore once
00:00:31.480 we were vaccinated. So why should Americans trust him now? Well, because we listen to the scientists,
00:00:37.640 we listen to the expert. This is a public health situation. This is not about politics at all.
00:00:42.440 This is about saving lives. And this is what the president is all about. He wants to make sure
00:00:46.620 that we are saving lives. If you look at Peter, the last six months, that's what he's done every day.
00:00:52.240 And we and you see that in the numbers. Now we're at a point where we have to double down and make
00:00:57.900 it very, very clear to people that we can't we can't let the pandemic win. We have to continue to
00:01:04.280 fight. So if you're listening to the science, if scientists come to you at some point down the line
00:01:08.800 and say it is our opinion that there should be shutdowns and there should be school closures,
00:01:13.120 you would do that? Well, we listen to it. Like I said, we listen to the CDC and the expert and the
00:01:17.960 and their guidance. The CDC is a body that is very well respected. And again, we follow their
00:01:27.220 guidance. Why should we trust the president? Well, because he listens to the scientists.
00:01:31.300 Why should we trust them? They've gotten everything wrong, too. Meanwhile, the Atlantic
00:01:34.760 magazine calls MyPillow owner Mike Lindell a threat to democracy. A New York Times reporter
00:01:40.920 labels Trump supporters enemies of the state. And Nancy Pelosi orders Capitol Hill police
00:01:46.880 to arrest the unmasked. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:58.680 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from BO7341, who says, to be fair,
00:02:03.740 I think January 6th, 2021 was the worst day in American history. Joe Biden was confirmed as
00:02:11.100 president on that day. You know, good point. I guess I could have a January 6th commission. I
00:02:15.680 could get behind that if the purpose of the commission is to investigate how on earth we got
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00:03:38.840 than when politicians say, look, this isn't political. When the White House spokesman
00:03:46.320 talking about various mandates and orders from the president of the United States says that those
00:03:51.460 mandates and orders are not political because he got the advice for them from other politicians who
00:04:00.340 work in public health and public and politics mean the same thing. They're synonyms. It's such a,
00:04:06.180 it's so preposterous. I guess it works. I guess that's why politicians continue to use this rhetorical
00:04:12.380 device, but sophisticated people like you would never do this. Whatever a politician does,
00:04:19.700 whenever a politician does a thing that pertains to the public and policy, it is by definition
00:04:25.080 political. By the way, when, when private companies do things that affect the public broadly,
00:04:32.760 that is by definition political. And what Joe Biden is doing is political and it's very dishonest
00:04:40.140 and it tarnishes whatever credibility he had left because not so long ago, Joe Biden said unequivocally,
00:04:46.660 if you've taken the shot, then you do not need to wear a mask. If you've been fully vaccinated,
00:04:53.460 you no longer need to wear a mask. Let me repeat. If you are fully vaccinated,
00:05:00.660 you no longer need to wear a mask. But now you do. Now you do. And by the way,
00:05:07.200 Biden and the White House has addressed this. And what they have said is that was true then. 0.91
00:05:12.700 If you've been vaccinated, you don't need to wear a mask, but it's not true now because the words and
00:05:19.080 the judgment of the president do not matter. All that matters, this is according to them,
00:05:26.160 all that matters is what unelected technocrats in lab coats have to say. And whatever their whims 1.00
00:05:33.600 and caprices suggest on any given day, that will be the public policy of the United States.
00:05:39.060 Why do we have a president? I have no idea. I don't, I don't really know. He's not doing
00:05:43.760 anything. If, if truly his public policy just amounts to listen to the scientists,
00:05:49.860 specific scientists and do whatever they say, then we have no need for a president. 0.89
00:05:55.200 And I think that is kind of the point of the Biden presidency is he is simply a vessel for the
00:06:00.740 unelected liberal bureaucracy. Biden's going further though. It's not just,
00:06:06.120 yeah, you should probably mask up now. He also wants to impel people to get the vaccine. And he
00:06:13.140 knows that he probably can't do that at the federal level. He knows he probably can't pass a law or an
00:06:18.580 executive order that says everyone's got to get the vaccine. So what he's doing instead is using the
00:06:23.180 so-called private companies that aren't really private at all. And he is using them as proxies
00:06:28.700 to coerce people to take the experimental drug. Why not push for vaccine mandates in states,
00:06:36.060 private companies, schools? Do you want to see those entities pass vaccine mandates?
00:06:41.860 Well, I'd like to see them continue to move in that direction. And that's why I pointed out,
00:06:47.720 I had asked the justice department to determine whether that is, they're able to do that legally.
00:06:52.020 And they can. Local communities can do that. Local businesses can do that. It's still a question
00:06:59.360 whether the federal government can mandate the whole country. I don't know that yet.
00:07:04.060 So that's still a question, by the way, according to Job. I thought it'd be a pretty simple answer
00:07:08.180 that the federal government can't mandate the whole country take an experimental drug.
00:07:12.240 But he says that's an open question. We're working on that. But in the meantime,
00:07:15.200 what we're going to do is use so-called private entities as proxies to force you all to do it anyway.
00:07:20.920 This gets to President Trump's lawsuit against Facebook and the other big tech companies. He's
00:07:25.840 suing them on First Amendment grounds. Now, usually you're only allowed to claim a First
00:07:31.560 Amendment violation or it would only carry credibility if you're making that claim against
00:07:35.380 the government because private companies have no responsibility to protect your First Amendment
00:07:40.700 rights. But what Trump is alleging is that these private companies, so-called private companies,
00:07:46.340 are just an extension of the government. And he makes a good case. And every time Joe Biden
00:07:53.040 opens his mouth, he seems to make a good case. Meanwhile, China is spreading disinformation on
00:07:59.260 COVID. So what China is saying, they've sent out a bunch of tweets from their propagandists,
00:08:03.260 and they've said, the US is responsible for the world. How has the US poisoned the world? By the way,
00:08:10.560 they're like missing. It says, how has US poisoned the world? US is responsible to the world. And like
00:08:17.460 all this, you'd think they educate all of their students at American universities. You'd think
00:08:21.340 they'd have a slightly better grasp on the English language, and they don't really. But this is
00:08:25.980 obviously a piece of propaganda to deflect blame from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where the virus
00:08:32.600 escaped, to blame the United States or something. It's worth pointing out that under the lead of Dr.
00:08:37.940 Fauci, the United States actually funded the Wuhan laboratory. So I guess we bear some responsibility
00:08:41.780 in that regard. But sure enough, this is misinformation. Now, when I think about COVID
00:08:49.580 misinformation, though, and we're all putting our ire on China, I think, hmm, would we ever spread
00:08:55.480 misinformation? Would the US government ever? Because you just saw the Biden clip about the masks,
00:09:01.720 and you remember seeing the Dr. Fauci clip about the masks, and you saw the government denying that it
00:09:05.640 escaped from the Wuhan lab, and then later they said that it did, and then so, or that it very
00:09:09.340 likely did. And it seems like the United States has spread a bit of misinformation as well.
00:09:16.340 It seems that the bureaucrats and the politicians in charge in this country have spread a fair bit of
00:09:21.120 COVID misinformation as well. As a matter of fact, I think there are three groups right now that are
00:09:26.000 being called misinformers on COVID. There's the Chinese government, there's the US government,
00:09:31.880 and then there are just random conservatives. Those are the three groups.
00:09:39.640 Only one of those groups gets kicked off of Twitter for spreading quote unquote misinformation.
00:09:45.240 And ironically, it's the group that tends to be most correct, where the misinformation turns out
00:09:51.040 just to be information. China goes out and says that the United States developed this and released it.
00:09:56.060 Obviously a lie, they get to stay on Twitter.
00:09:57.820 The US government says, don't wear masks, they don't work. Do wear masks, they do work. Didn't
00:10:03.840 escape from the lab. Maybe it did escape from the lab. Vaccines have no side effects. Maybe the
00:10:07.740 vaccine, back and forth and back and forth, they don't get kicked off of Twitter.
00:10:12.120 Conservatives say, huh, kind of looks like that Wuhan virus. I bet that might have something to do with
00:10:17.680 the lab. Misleading, misinformation. I think there might be some side effects involving like
00:10:22.600 myocarditis and periocarditis and nerve system disorders from the vaccine. Misinformation,
00:10:30.600 censored, suspended for 12 hours. That's a pretty strange state of affairs that the people who are
00:10:36.120 most correct are the only group that are going to be censored for stating some plain facts.
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00:11:54.060 The liberal establishment is really ratcheting up the hysteria, is really ratcheting up the sense of
00:12:01.200 crisis, and is really ratcheting up attacks on political dissidents in the United States.
00:12:05.900 And I'm not just talking about a handful of kooky dissidents on the fringe. I'm talking about
00:12:11.840 half the country. New York Times reporter, Katie Benner, has just labeled Trump supporters,
00:12:21.620 not some Trump supporters, writ large, half the country, at least, enemies of the state.
00:12:27.840 Quote, today's January 6th select committee underscores the America's current, the America's,
00:12:37.520 New York Times people aren't hiring their best anymore. The America's current essential dilemma,
00:12:43.980 national security dilemma. Work to combat legitimate national security threats now entails
00:12:49.340 calling a politician's supporters enemies of the state. Katie Benner, by the way,
00:12:55.120 covers for the Times, the Justice Department. As Americans, we believe that state power should
00:12:59.980 not be used to work against a political figure or a political party. But, and there it is,
00:13:05.560 there's that but that's going to negate what she just said. But what happens if a politician seems
00:13:11.380 to threaten the state, if the politician continues to do so out of office and his entire party supports
00:13:17.380 the threat? Well, what happens is you're going to, if you can disingenuously, but nevertheless,
00:13:25.240 if you can label your political opponents, half the country, enemies of the state, then you can more
00:13:32.880 easily justify weaponizing the full force of the federal government against those people, including
00:13:39.420 the NSA, which has a foreign service mission. And yet was just caught spying on Tucker Carlson,
00:13:44.980 a domestic, very, very popular, I guess you'd call him political dissident because he opposes the
00:13:50.740 liberal regime. But it's very, as mainstream as they get, he's got the highest rated show on cable
00:13:55.760 news. And yet the NSA, which is only supposed to be looking at threats outside of the country,
00:14:01.840 spying on him. The FBI going after Donald Trump's campaign in 2016, a democratic party using the FBI
00:14:10.620 as its enforcement arm to spy on the political opponents. That's pretty scary. The jailing of
00:14:17.320 political dissonance. I mean, even if you look at the way that the January 6th people are being
00:14:21.600 treated compared to BLM, the January 6th people relatively wrought very little damage, didn't kill
00:14:27.380 people. The only person who died in political violence on that day was one of the Trump supporters.
00:14:34.280 And yet they get the book thrown at them and they're going to rot in prison. Meanwhile,
00:14:37.420 BLM burns down federal courthouses and kills a bunch of people and they get off the hook, 1.00
00:14:41.740 broadly get off the hook. That is because the BLM people are considered good, useful foot soldiers
00:14:49.560 for the liberal establishment. And the Trump supporters are enemies of the state. And we
00:14:54.540 treat enemies of the state differently than we would treat foot soldiers for the establishment.
00:15:00.240 Speaking of enemies of the state, you know, that insufferable cop, Officer Dunn, the one who said
00:15:07.140 he was called all sorts of terrible names on the basis of race. He had no evidence of this whatsoever.
00:15:11.700 Cameras all over the place that day, zillions of hours of video, but no, we never found any evidence
00:15:16.300 of the dubious events he's describing. So Officer Dunn has something to say about enemies of the state.
00:15:21.880 He says that the people at the Capitol, the people who stole Pelosi's lectern were much,
00:15:27.700 much worse than the BLM rioters who burned the country down. 0.98
00:15:31.220 First Amendment protests is what this country is about. The First Amendment, the Constitution,
00:15:36.700 that's the democracy of it. But once you start attacking people, attacking things,
00:15:43.680 then that's wrong. And you know what? That goes to the riots this summer. They were wrong. If you
00:15:49.240 peacefully protest, then sure. But the riots and the violence and the damage this summer,
00:15:54.140 they were wrong. They were wrong. And that's the exact same thing that happened at the Capitol.
00:16:01.220 But their goal was to overthrow democracy, which is a bigger threat to America.
00:16:07.640 Wow. Big of you to say that that killing dozens of people and burning down businesses and homes and
00:16:13.380 courthouses to big of you to say that that's wrong. Hey, look, I'm a reasonable guy. Okay.
00:16:17.560 I think killing dozens of people is wrong. Oh, thanks. Thanks, man. Okay. I'm glad we can at
00:16:24.780 least agree on that. But that's the exact same thing that happened at the Capitol. No, it's not.
00:16:29.040 No, it's not. They're not even close. Burning down city after city after city,
00:16:33.440 killing person after person after person, burning down police station after police station after
00:16:37.600 federal courthouse, stealing property after property after property, and threatening to do it
00:16:42.220 again with the explicit support of, of members of the, the Democrat Congress and Senate and the
00:16:47.460 sitting vice president. Now that is not the same as making a mess of Nancy Pelosi's desk. It's not,
00:16:53.040 it's not even close. They are completely incomparable events. And yet we're now being,
00:17:01.260 not only is he saying they're the same, he's actually, he's actually then later saying what
00:17:05.360 happened at the Capitol is worse because they want to overthrow democracy. Burning down a courthouse,
00:17:09.500 federal courthouse, that's not overthrowing democracy. Burning down the symbol of the justice
00:17:14.680 system. That's, that's not overthrowing democracy, but jumping up and down with a horn hat on. That is
00:17:21.040 pathetic, pathetic. So what are we going to do about it? We're just going to complain, right?
00:17:26.280 That's what we're going to do. I think the only people who are, who are doing their job
00:17:31.560 in, in this entire fiasco, and I hate to toot my own horn, but it's those of us on the communicator
00:17:38.380 side of it. It's those of us in the conservative media. It's those, and I'm not saying, look,
00:17:43.560 I think it'd be much better if legislators were actually taking action or judges were taking action
00:17:46.920 or people with real hard political power were taking action. But all, all we can do, if you have
00:17:52.960 a microphone, all you can do is call attention to this stuff that the mainstream media won't talk
00:17:57.060 about. All you can do is call attention to not only what's happening in the news, but what that,
00:18:02.460 what that relates to from a philosophical perspective, from an historical perspective,
00:18:06.400 you can provide context, you can lay out the plan of what to do. But if you're not sitting
00:18:11.960 in Congress, if you're not sitting in the Senate, if you're not a legislator, if you're not in the
00:18:16.300 bureaucracy, if you're not a judge, then you don't have that hard political power to do something.
00:18:20.860 So do something, do something guys. Thankfully, some congressmen are finally doing something very
00:18:27.300 important here. Representatives, Jim Jordan and Kathy McMorris Rogers are now introducing
00:18:34.080 legislation. Finally, finally, thank you guys for doing this when, I don't know why other Republicans
00:18:40.340 hadn't done this yet, to amend section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. You know, this is the
00:18:47.420 provision of the CDA, which would give legal protections, liability protections to big tech
00:18:54.900 companies and allows them to act as publishers, but then claim that they're not publishers and
00:18:59.460 basically just allows them to censor you and political dissidents and, and the president of
00:19:03.920 the United States for that matter, who ironically is a kind of political dissident when the entire
00:19:08.920 political order is run by the liberal establishment. The Communications Decency Act, which ironically
00:19:16.460 was gutted by the Supreme Court and the central provision, the anti-indecency provisions, the whole
00:19:22.540 point of the CDA was to control pornography on the internet in the early days of the internet. And that
00:19:28.700 central provision was gutted by libs on the Supreme Court. And so that, but, but this section 230 has
00:19:35.480 remained. And so this is great stuff. You know, section 230 stipulates that, quote, no provider or
00:19:42.680 user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information
00:19:46.400 provided by another information content provider. This would, this law or this, you know, this bill that's
00:19:53.120 being proposed by Jordan and Rogers would exempt certain gigantic big tech companies from this sort of
00:20:00.300 protection. It's a good step in the right direction because the entire establishment right now is trying to
00:20:06.200 criminalize conservative thought. Exhibit A, the Atlantic. The Atlantic and Applebaum is well-known
00:20:14.940 political writer. She has a piece out called the MyPillow guy really could destroy democracy. 0.97
00:20:24.120 So Mike Lindell, you know, MyPillow, a company that has supported this show and many, many other
00:20:30.260 conservative shows, he could destroy democracy. He's a very nice guy, patriotic guy, very inspiring story.
00:20:36.180 He could apparently destroy democracy. If democracy can be destroyed by a pillow salesman,
00:20:48.360 then democracy was probably not all that sturdy in the first place. Okay. And, and I, I just want to
00:20:56.480 reiterate here when Ann Applebaum or Nancy Pelosi or Kamala Harris or anybody else refer to,
00:21:06.800 our democracy, they are not referring to democracy. None of these people like democracy. All of these
00:21:13.140 people are progressives. The point of progressivism is to make the country less democratic, to take
00:21:18.900 political power away from the people, to upend the constitutional order and give it to bureaucrats.
00:21:24.800 Biden and Biden spokesmen said it clearly. We follow the science. We don't follow the judgment and
00:21:31.440 prudence of the people. We don't follow the constitution in many places. We follow whatever
00:21:36.720 the egghead bureaucrats tell us. They don't like democracy. As Angelo Cotavilla says very well,
00:21:43.060 when they refer to our democracy, they are actually referring to their oligarchy. Okay.
00:21:50.180 So please spare me the crocodile tears over our democracy. When you're trying, you're, you're
00:21:55.820 casting a perfectly patriotic, inspiring American citizen who all he's ever done is sell pillows.
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00:23:25.500 against the unwashed masses. Now they're called the unvaccinated or the unmasked. Nancy Pelosi
00:23:34.640 has ordered the Capitol Hill police to arrest visitors and staff members of committees and
00:23:43.640 United States congressmen who are not wearing masks in the Capitol.
00:23:50.700 There are two houses, right? There are two chambers. There's the House of Representatives
00:23:54.780 and the Senate. Both are controlled by the Democrats right now. In the Democrat controlled
00:24:00.260 Senate, you do not need to wear a mask. There's no mask mandate. You won't be fined. It's cool.
00:24:05.220 So a Democratic senator can just walk around without a mask on. It's fine. Or a Republican
00:24:11.280 senator or anyone else. If you're in the House of Representatives, you'll be fined $500
00:24:16.180 every time that you do not wear a mask. If you're a member of Congress and if you're a staff member or
00:24:22.620 a visitor, you will be arrested. I'm glad at least that Pelosi has stopped short of arresting House
00:24:30.060 members. Might look a little bit like an insurrection, wouldn't you say? Might look a
00:24:34.520 little bit like a coup. Huh? How ironic. So she stopped short of that for now. But this of course
00:24:40.460 has nothing to do with science and this has nothing to do with stopping the spread of coronavirus.
00:24:44.360 On the very day that Nancy Pelosi decided to start enforcing this measure of arresting people,
00:24:53.120 for goodness sakes, if they're not wearing masks in the Capitol, Nancy Pelosi was spotted and 0.99
00:24:59.940 photographed at a crowded event not wearing a mask. The event was outside, but it was very crowded.
00:25:08.840 It's very, very crowded. And by the way, Pelosi's ordering the masks to be worn all over the Capitol
00:25:12.860 ground. So it's not even that it's only in certain rooms or anything like that. And she violated her 0.78
00:25:16.860 own order or her own principle the same day. But it doesn't matter. No one really believes that this
00:25:23.860 matters in terms of public health. These people just want to impose their will. It's politically 0.82
00:25:32.240 advantageous. They took a lot of power from people and they're not going to give it back.
00:25:36.060 As some of us warned last year when there were some conservatives who went a little squishy,
00:25:41.560 I got to tell you. They went a little squishy on the masks and they said, oh, it's okay. It's a
00:25:45.440 reasonable measure and it'll help us get back to normal. It won't. It won't. It is the symbol
00:25:49.700 of the power that the left took from you. We need to go on offense. Here's a great new bill that was
00:25:59.180 introduced. It's probably not going to go anywhere, but it's a great new bill. This is what I'm talking
00:26:03.280 about when I say offense. Ronald Reagan had a great line. He said, when you're explaining,
00:26:07.180 you're losing. You might have every perfect explanation in the world because you did
00:26:11.660 something or because you said something, but it doesn't matter. If you're the one on defense
00:26:14.520 explaining, then you're losing. We need to put the left on defense. So representative Michael
00:26:22.100 Waltz from Florida has introduced legislation meant to promote financial transparency within the
00:26:28.940 Biden and Harris immediate families because of Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden, who is this influence
00:26:34.380 peddling criminal who has traded on his father's name and sold his father's influence to the
00:26:39.280 highest bidder around the world, to Ukraine, to China. He tried to sell it to China. He's made a
00:26:44.580 lot, a lot of money on this, merely selling his name in industries that he has absolutely no expertise
00:26:51.840 in whatsoever. So now Hunter Biden is a painter. He calls himself a professional painter. His work is
00:26:58.780 actually not by the standards of modern art. So I'm damning with faint praise. It's not terrible,
00:27:03.400 but it's not good. It looks, it's like something a third grader could do. So Hunter Biden is now a
00:27:08.840 painter and he's selling his very bad paintings for half a million dollars a pop. Hmm. Do you,
00:27:16.220 do you think that the anonymous buyers of these paintings, do you think they just really have
00:27:21.040 an appreciation for the little doodles that Hunter's doing? Or do you think maybe they're trying to buy
00:27:26.400 influence, which is the, the real industry that Hunter Biden's worked in his entire life?
00:27:30.780 So Representative Waltz introduced the Preventing Anonymous Income by Necessitating Transparency
00:27:41.220 of Executive Relatives Act. Or, because you know Washington loves an acronym, the Painter Act.
00:27:49.840 Really great stuff. It's, it's a bit harsh actually. It says that these relatives need to report
00:27:55.600 the source and type of earned income exceeding a thousand dollars and the source and type of any
00:28:00.340 honoraria received more than $200. And so it's actually the source and type of income from rents
00:28:07.040 and dividends and interest in capital gains over $200. So that's, you know, that's a very low
00:28:11.440 threshold for earnings and, but it doesn't matter. The law is not going to go through. I just love,
00:28:16.620 I love the name. I love the angle. I love the point of it. I actually wish a similar law would go
00:28:21.000 through. And I like that we're on offense. I like that we're calling attention to, hold on a sec.
00:28:25.520 I don't, why are you still talking about Trump? Look at what the Bidens are doing. Look at their
00:28:30.000 corruption. This is how I feel about the January 6th commission is why are we talking about January
00:28:37.500 6th when, when BLM burned the country down with the encouragement of leftists and Democrats for, 0.80
00:28:43.560 for six to eight months. Speaking of going on offense, really, really great stuff from professors
00:28:50.840 Robbie George and John Finnis. These are two conservative scholars, professors. They filed an
00:28:57.320 amicus brief in this Dobbs case. You know, this is the case I've mentioned a few times on the show.
00:29:02.760 It's the one that seeks to overturn Roe v. Wade and to overturn Planned Parenthood v. Casey and to say
00:29:07.340 there's no constitutional right to an abortion, which obviously there isn't. So they filed a brief for
00:29:12.140 the court to give them context, arguing, not just that, you know, if, if Roe v. Wade is overturned,
00:29:22.000 that then the question goes back to the states and the states can decide if they want to have
00:29:25.960 abortion or not have abortion, right? That's been the kind of conservative talking point for the last
00:29:29.580 few decades. They're going further. Robbie George and John Finnis are going further and they're saying,
00:29:35.180 actually, the 14th Amendment, when it was ratified, was understood to consider unborn children as
00:29:45.200 persons. And if unborn children are persons, then they have the right not to be killed without due
00:29:50.380 process. So it goes further. It's not just that the abortion question goes back to the states. It goes
00:29:55.040 further to say that abortion is illegal. It's obviously unjust. It's obviously immoral. And it's, 0.64
00:30:01.760 it's prohibited by the 14th Amendment. I love this kind of offense. I love this kind of aggression.
00:30:06.860 Really, really good stuff from these professors. Is it going to have an effect on the case?
00:30:11.560 I don't know. I don't think it's going to give us this result in the case, but I think what
00:30:14.240 conservatives need to start doing is arguing past the sale. Don't just ask for what you want. Just
00:30:19.220 don't, don't just demand what you want. Go further, go way, way, way further. So that when you start to
00:30:23.900 reconcile, when you start to compromise, then you can go back to what you really want. Donald Trump was
00:30:28.520 really good at this. The Democrats are really good at this. And, and Republicans need to get
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00:31:30.220 mailbag. Welcome back to my favorite time of the week, the mailbag. First question from Marisa, who
00:31:47.760 says, I recently heard that yoga is actually bad and demonic. I have never heard this before and enjoy 0.92
00:31:53.760 yoga on the occasion for both exercise and relaxation. In a world with constant stimulation,
00:31:59.600 I find it nice to relax and clear your thoughts as you do in yoga. There is the old saying,
00:32:03.560 an idle mind is the devil's playground and is that why yoga is bad? Why does something that brings me
00:32:09.040 relaxation, why is it detrimental to my soul? Sincerely, Namaste. Whatever Knowles says is right
00:32:15.320 is probably right. Wow. Great, great, great sign off. Yes, it is. I was trying to figure out if I
00:32:25.840 could sugarcoat it or no. It's just, it is bad and it almost certainly is demonic and you shouldn't do
00:32:31.580 it. Okay. Why? Because yoga is not just stretching. Stretching is fine. Meditating actually is fine.
00:32:41.040 Clearing your thoughts and having stillness. Prayer is certainly fine. But yoga is not just that. Yoga
00:32:47.580 is a religious ritual. It is a Hindu liturgy. That's where it comes from. And Hinduism has all 0.95
00:32:53.900 sorts of different gods that it worships that are not the god of Christianity. Okay. And it has all 0.50
00:33:01.400 sorts of spiritual aspects and it's got the chanting and the humming and the focusing. And it falls into a
00:33:07.620 number of theological errors, pretty dangerous ones. One of them, for instance, would be monism. The
00:33:14.440 idea that everything is just one, right? It's all the universe, man. And we're part of the universe
00:33:20.180 and we're part of the creation and God is kind of part. It's all just the same thing, man. You know,
00:33:24.100 we're all just going back into that same thing. That is a very popular idea in new age. It's popular
00:33:29.120 in non-theistic religions, but it's not Christian. The Christian idea is that, and the Jewish idea and the 0.79
00:33:33.760 Muslim idea is that there is God and then God, the creator, makes the creation and we are part of
00:33:39.400 creation. So we have a close relationship to God and we are made in the image of God, but we are not
00:33:43.820 all just one man. There actually are distinct things. It also falls into the heresy of Gnosticism,
00:33:50.320 that if you just, you know, if you just sort of think certain things and you know certain truths
00:33:54.480 that that, and you just kind of meditate on that, that you'll be able to transcend the world. And that's
00:33:59.040 very important. You know, I understand we're getting into sort of subtle distinctions here,
00:34:06.160 but that is not a Christian idea, this Gnostic idea that's associated with yoga. Same thing with
00:34:13.980 this sort of technical idea of yoga, that if you put your body in certain positions, this is going to
00:34:18.320 unlock certain spiritual fruits. This technical aspect is also not exactly Christian. But even just
00:34:26.220 the basic fact that it is a liturgy from another religion that is rather different and contradictory
00:34:32.080 toward your religion is why you shouldn't do it. If you want to stretch and relax, I recommend 1.00
00:34:36.800 Pilates and meditation and prayer. From Sarah, hey Michael, I started dating a guy almost a year ago and
00:34:42.940 things have been going really well. We're extremely compatible. I think we both helped each other
00:34:47.200 improve as people. I love him to death and I wouldn't trade him for anything. There's only one problem.
00:34:51.980 He's an atheist and I'm a Christian. I've been able to ignore this problem thus far.
00:34:57.040 As people have started mentioning marriage, he seems to be nowhere near converting and it's become
00:35:01.940 abundantly clear that I need to address this. Do you think it's acceptable for me to continue with
00:35:05.540 this relationship? If not, how do I approach him about this? Thanks for the help. Sincerely,
00:35:09.360 facing the atheist factor. Trademark. Tough problem that you're in.
00:35:12.840 It depends on your place in life. When sweet little Elise and I started dating back in the
00:35:20.760 Carter administration, back when we were like two years old, we dated in high school. We've
00:35:25.580 known each other since we were 10 or 11 years old. Back in those days, we had very different
00:35:29.680 political views, very different religious views. I told you I was an atheist for a decade or so.
00:35:34.000 We've grown together. You either grow together or you grow apart. If you're 16 years old or something
00:35:40.040 and you've got these different views, I wouldn't worry so much about it because you're still
00:35:44.080 educating yourself. You're still changing. You're evolving. You're going to grow together
00:35:47.820 very likely. If you're 30 and you're really looking seriously at marriage right now and you guys just
00:35:54.880 have these really set views that are not likely to change all that much, then that becomes a real
00:36:00.460 problem in no small part because theoretically your husband will be the head of household, right?
00:36:04.920 And so how do you have a marriage where the husband has this just completely false view of
00:36:12.220 the world and where he, if he assumes a leadership role, is going to lead your family on the most
00:36:18.520 important matters and these spiritual matters in the wrong direction. And if he doesn't assume a
00:36:22.560 leadership role, that's a problem too. So I think it is going to come to a head. It's a tough
00:36:27.700 tough issue for you, but he's got to get it in order and he, he's going to, he's going to have to
00:36:35.100 make some hard decisions, I think, or you're going to give up your faith, but you will grow together or
00:36:39.860 you will grow apart. And if, if he's not going to come see the fullness of truth, then, then you're,
00:36:46.720 you're in for a bad, you're in for a bad conclusion either way. From Anders, Anders, Anders,
00:36:52.720 greetings and salutations to he who knows much. I've been watching your show for a little over a year
00:36:57.060 now and have been intrigued by your faith. A lot of religious questions today. There always are.
00:37:01.900 I grew up as a member of a Christian household, but in recent years have fallen away and lost
00:37:05.080 interest in the church, mainly because of the lack of leadership there. That being said, my question
00:37:09.060 is this, in your mind, is there a difference between Protestantism and Catholicism? If so,
00:37:12.500 are the two irreconcilable? I find the tenets of Catholicism attractive, but was raised to think
00:37:16.640 of it as a kind of false doctrine. Sincerely, he who knows little, but seeks much. There's a great book
00:37:21.600 on this point for people who, you know, I was not raised Protestant, so I didn't have those problems,
00:37:25.580 though I, on my way back from atheism, I spent a lot of time reading Protestants and
00:37:30.200 really appreciating. I mean, some Protestants were actually very important in my reversion to the 0.99
00:37:33.540 faith, but ultimately I did not remain in the Protestant world. I reverted to Catholicism. I do
00:37:40.100 think that's the true faith and, you know, I, obviously I think there's a distinction and I've,
00:37:44.100 I've made my choice. There's a good book called Rome's Sweet Home, which is a book about people who
00:37:51.160 are either fundamentalist especially or just Protestant more broadly and answering some
00:37:55.900 issues about Catholicism. It has been said that, that there are not a hundred people in this country
00:38:01.080 who hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions of people who hate what they believe
00:38:05.500 to be the Catholic Church. They just are, you know, have been taught wrong. I mean, you'll hear a lot
00:38:09.600 of these things that Catholics worship Mary and the saints, which is not true, or Catholics believe
00:38:14.360 that you earn your salvation, which is, you know, that you achieve your salvation through your own
00:38:18.480 effort exclusively. That obviously is not true. That Catholics worship idols. That obviously is 0.73
00:38:24.560 not true. And, and these debates go back 2,000 years and there are many more sophisticated people
00:38:28.880 who have written on them and settled them than you or I or many people writing today. So I would
00:38:33.820 encourage you to do that. I would encourage you to check out resources like Catholic Answers.
00:38:37.920 Great, great website and, and media company. I would recommend that you check out the Patrick
00:38:42.320 Madrid show. It's a wonderful podcast and radio show, friend of mine, Patrick Madrid. My friend,
00:38:47.480 Patrick Coffin, great, great too. He's, he's a little more for the already initiated, you know,
00:38:51.660 but, but still very, very terrific broadcaster. But Patrick Madrid, I think, could, could really help
00:38:56.700 answer some of these questions. And I think they're irreconcilable until the church comes back
00:39:04.900 together in the end, which I suspect will happen. But beyond the, the issue of the place of Mary and
00:39:10.780 of the saints and of the episcopacy and the bishops and the pope and all, beyond all that, I think
00:39:15.500 the central issue here is one, if you believe in the divine institution of a real church by a real guy
00:39:22.260 who's incarnate, then, and you believe that the apostles really did receive certain graces and
00:39:29.100 you believe that they really did choose their replacements and you believe that there is a line
00:39:32.880 and there is history and there's a continuity to this institution. I think that leads one in the
00:39:37.220 direction of the Catholic church. And also on a philosophical level, if you believe that there's
00:39:44.340 the physical world and the metaphysical world, and they seem very separate, right? This, this world
00:39:49.720 that we're living in and then the supernatural, the outside of physical. And you believe that
00:39:54.800 sometimes they come together most perfectly in the person of Christ, who is fully man, but also fully
00:40:02.200 God. And somehow he's together in this hypostatic union. If you believe that, and you believe that he
00:40:09.240 institutes sacraments, you know, he, he says, you have the power to forgive sins, whose sins you
00:40:14.540 forgive are forgiven, whose sins you retain are retained. You have the keys to the kingdom of
00:40:18.240 heaven. He says this to Peter, the first pope, you have the keys to the kingdom of heaven and the gates
00:40:23.700 of hell will not, will not prevail against my church and go feed my sheep and all of these sorts of
00:40:29.060 things. If you believe in the institution of the Eucharist, that there, this, the Eucharist really is
00:40:34.780 the body and blood of Christ, then what you're saying at a philosophical level is mankind requires
00:40:41.100 the regular meeting of the physical and the metaphysical. And we know that we do because
00:40:47.400 we are physical beings, but we're also metaphysical beings. And we need that regular communion with,
00:40:52.320 between those two things. And I think the place you're going to find that is the Catholic church.
00:40:56.160 Your mileage may vary of course, but, but that would be one of my arguments. From Ben, hi Michael.
00:41:01.260 There is a lot of talk about the flaws of America and other Western countries where they criticize
00:41:05.080 and are allowed to complain at a nauseous level. My question is, which country would you least desire
00:41:10.740 to live in if you could also exclude only one? Basically in 2021, which country would be a bleephole
00:41:15.900 country, would win the bleephole country medal at the Olympics? Thanks, sincerely came for the beer
00:41:21.400 and blue jeans, stayed for the beer and blue jeans, hashtag America. I think Afghanistan would be the place 1.00
00:41:26.480 I'd least like to live. It is historically one of the most dangerous, poor, tumultuous countries and
00:41:32.180 no one seems able to conquer it. I guess that's something it has going for it, but
00:41:35.280 seems, seems like a tough place to live. And pretty strange that the United States has been there for
00:41:42.480 20 years. It's 20 years now, isn't that, isn't that wild? But that's probably where I mean, no offense
00:41:47.520 to the Afghani people, but it does not seem pleasant. Of course, according to the left, America is no better
00:41:55.020 than Afghanistan. In some ways, we're worse. From Archie, Michael, what is your favorite brand of sockless 0.93
00:42:01.120 loafers? And where do you stand on tassels? My favorite brand of sockless loafers, I'm not even being paid to
00:42:06.220 advertise them as Rancourt and Company, from Maine. My thoughts on tassels, are there a little more old school?
00:42:11.160 I'm not quite, I don't have quite enough gray hairs yet. I prefer the penny loafer, but I'll wear tassels
00:42:15.700 on occasion. From Jared, dear Michael, my wife is not a citizen yet. We're working on the paperwork, though.
00:42:21.720 She informed me recently that one of her relatives is here on a student visa and is planning to let
00:42:25.680 the visa lapse and just stay here illegally. As a Christian and a conservative, I feel very strong
00:42:29.680 loyalty to my family, but I also feel the duty to do something about this, lest I be a hypocrite in
00:42:33.660 discussions of illegal immigration. What can I do to remedy this dissonance? Sincerely, in a Vin Diesel
00:42:37.940 voice, I don't need ice, I got family. That's a tough predicament you're in, but I actually think
00:42:46.420 there's a pretty straight answer. You should state your views on the matter, both to your wife, to
00:42:54.240 your wife's relative, to anyone who is interested in listening. But I don't think you should rat this
00:42:59.840 relative out to the cops. I don't think that would be the right thing to do. I think perhaps you should
00:43:03.540 persuade this relative to leave the country, and then if she wants to move here, to do that in a
00:43:08.140 legal way. But I don't think it is your obligation or your duty or really even your place to call the
00:43:14.620 cops and have your relative deported, especially as the immigration law is not being enforced,
00:43:19.600 even by law enforcement. I don't think it would do anything, frankly. We've already let a million
00:43:24.700 illegal aliens into the country so far this year. There's no chance, there's no evidence that they're 0.93
00:43:29.020 going to slow down. So I just think nobody likes a tattletale. So what you can do is work on a
00:43:35.800 personal level, but I don't think that you need to be the tattletale and the enforcement arm of ICE.
00:43:41.400 Even ICE is not the enforcement arm of ICE. From Nick, in 1984, the slogan war is peace
00:43:46.700 lends to the idea that the party can use international war for the purpose of domestic
00:43:51.940 peace. But what would you say that our party, or what would you say that our party is using a
00:43:58.420 domestic culture war to establish peace within the shifting political landscape via slate of hand?
00:44:03.260 From Nick, the happily married one. Good, this is not the Nick who, I like that other Nick too,
00:44:07.860 but that guy's got problems sometimes. So to the more stable Nick, I think you're catching on to
00:44:14.240 something. What you're asking, if I understood your question correctly, is, is the Republican Party
00:44:19.760 just ginning up people's opinions in the culture war without any intention of ever resolving the
00:44:26.380 issues because actually they benefit? So for instance, on pro-life, I suspect that there are many
00:44:31.400 conservatives and Republicans who don't really want to move the needle on abortion.
00:44:35.800 They just, they actually would prefer to keep abortion a live issue because they can fundraise
00:44:39.640 on it and it actually helps them politically. Yeah, I think that's true. And I've, I've talked
00:44:44.620 with various people on Capitol Hill who, who have told me as much that there were some squishier
00:44:50.760 Republicans who, they actually don't really want anything to happen on abortion. They just,
00:44:54.140 they just like fundraising from it. It's too bad, but that's the way it works. And I think
00:44:59.420 probably we've got to do a better job of chasing those people out of office. All right, final question.
00:45:05.800 From Jessica, conservatives have a very traditional view of women in the world where traditional has 0.98
00:45:09.620 become synonymous with sexist and malignant. They have infiltrated the minds of women and men,
00:45:13.260 seemingly placing a higher value on masculine qualities such as monetary success and success
00:45:16.840 outside the home. Shouldn't the right's focus be on redefining success and happiness or focus on
00:45:22.020 showing the feminine qualities are different rather than less than? Respectfully,
00:45:25.620 nullsplaining over mansplaining. You are so right, my dear. You are so right, Jessica.
00:45:30.780 What the right often does is accepts the left's premises and then impotently sort of tries to
00:45:38.920 argue against them. Don't accept the premises, fight back, push hard, get aggressive, or else we're
00:45:44.280 going to be here not on the 500th day to slow the spread. We're going to be here on the thousandth
00:45:47.880 day, the 1500th day, the 2000th day. I'll see you next time. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael
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