The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 817 - The Blob Declares Us The Enemy of Their State


Summary

The 500th day of the flu pandemic has passed, and public health officials are reinstituting masks all across the country. Meanwhile, the Atlantic Magazine calls MyPillow owner Mike Lindell a threat to democracy. And Nancy Pelosi orders Capitol Hill police to arrest the unmasked.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 We have officially passed the 500th day of 15 days to slow the spread and public health officials
00:00:07.520 are marking the occasion by reinstituting mask orders all around the country. And not to be
00:00:13.420 outdone, the White House celebrated this milestone by spread slowing once more and threatening to
00:00:21.180 lock down the entire country again. President Biden says that we are not returning to lockdowns,
00:00:26.420 shutdowns and school closures. But he also once said that we didn't have to wear masks anymore once
00:00:31.480 we were vaccinated. So why should Americans trust him now? Well, because we listen to the scientists,
00:00:37.640 we listen to the expert. This is a public health situation. This is not about politics at all.
00:00:42.440 This is about saving lives. And this is what the president is all about. He wants to make sure
00:00:46.620 that we are saving lives. If you look at Peter, the last six months, that's what he's done every day.
00:00:52.240 And we and you see that in the numbers. Now we're at a point where we have to double down and make
00:00:57.900 it very, very clear to people that we can't we can't let the pandemic win. We have to continue to
00:01:04.280 fight. So if you're listening to the science, if scientists come to you at some point down the line
00:01:08.800 and say it is our opinion that there should be shutdowns and there should be school closures,
00:01:13.120 you would do that? Well, we listen to it. Like I said, we listen to the CDC and the expert and the
00:01:17.960 and their guidance. The CDC is a body that is very well respected. And again, we follow their
00:01:27.220 guidance. Why should we trust the president? Well, because he listens to the scientists.
00:01:31.300 Why should we trust them? They've gotten everything wrong, too. Meanwhile, the Atlantic
00:01:34.760 magazine calls MyPillow owner Mike Lindell a threat to democracy. A New York Times reporter
00:01:40.920 labels Trump supporters enemies of the state. And Nancy Pelosi orders Capitol Hill police
00:01:46.880 to arrest the unmasked. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:58.680 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from BO7341, who says, to be fair,
00:02:03.740 I think January 6th, 2021 was the worst day in American history. Joe Biden was confirmed as
00:02:11.100 president on that day. You know, good point. I guess I could have a January 6th commission. I
00:02:15.680 could get behind that if the purpose of the commission is to investigate how on earth we got
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00:03:38.840 than when politicians say, look, this isn't political. When the White House spokesman
00:03:46.320 talking about various mandates and orders from the president of the United States says that those
00:03:51.460 mandates and orders are not political because he got the advice for them from other politicians who
00:04:00.340 work in public health and public and politics mean the same thing. They're synonyms. It's such a,
00:04:06.180 it's so preposterous. I guess it works. I guess that's why politicians continue to use this rhetorical
00:04:12.380 device, but sophisticated people like you would never do this. Whatever a politician does,
00:04:19.700 whenever a politician does a thing that pertains to the public and policy, it is by definition
00:04:25.080 political. By the way, when, when private companies do things that affect the public broadly,
00:04:32.760 that is by definition political. And what Joe Biden is doing is political and it's very dishonest
00:04:40.140 and it tarnishes whatever credibility he had left because not so long ago, Joe Biden said unequivocally,
00:04:46.660 if you've taken the shot, then you do not need to wear a mask. If you've been fully vaccinated,
00:04:53.460 you no longer need to wear a mask. Let me repeat. If you are fully vaccinated,
00:05:00.660 you no longer need to wear a mask. But now you do. Now you do. And by the way,
00:05:07.200 Biden and the White House has addressed this. And what they have said is that was true then.
00:05:12.700 If you've been vaccinated, you don't need to wear a mask, but it's not true now because the words and
00:05:19.080 the judgment of the president do not matter. All that matters, this is according to them,
00:05:26.160 all that matters is what unelected technocrats in lab coats have to say. And whatever their whims
00:05:33.600 and caprices suggest on any given day, that will be the public policy of the United States.
00:05:39.060 Why do we have a president? I have no idea. I don't, I don't really know. He's not doing
00:05:43.760 anything. If, if truly his public policy just amounts to listen to the scientists,
00:05:49.860 specific scientists and do whatever they say, then we have no need for a president.
00:05:55.200 And I think that is kind of the point of the Biden presidency is he is simply a vessel for the
00:06:00.740 unelected liberal bureaucracy. Biden's going further though. It's not just,
00:06:06.120 yeah, you should probably mask up now. He also wants to impel people to get the vaccine. And he
00:06:13.140 knows that he probably can't do that at the federal level. He knows he probably can't pass a law or an
00:06:18.580 executive order that says everyone's got to get the vaccine. So what he's doing instead is using the
00:06:23.180 so-called private companies that aren't really private at all. And he is using them as proxies
00:06:28.700 to coerce people to take the experimental drug. Why not push for vaccine mandates in states,
00:06:36.060 private companies, schools? Do you want to see those entities pass vaccine mandates?
00:06:41.860 Well, I'd like to see them continue to move in that direction. And that's why I pointed out,
00:06:47.720 I had asked the justice department to determine whether that is, they're able to do that legally.
00:06:52.020 And they can. Local communities can do that. Local businesses can do that. It's still a question
00:06:59.360 whether the federal government can mandate the whole country. I don't know that yet.
00:07:04.060 So that's still a question, by the way, according to Job. I thought it'd be a pretty simple answer
00:07:08.180 that the federal government can't mandate the whole country take an experimental drug.
00:07:12.240 But he says that's an open question. We're working on that. But in the meantime,
00:07:15.200 what we're going to do is use so-called private entities as proxies to force you all to do it anyway.
00:07:20.920 This gets to President Trump's lawsuit against Facebook and the other big tech companies. He's
00:07:25.840 suing them on First Amendment grounds. Now, usually you're only allowed to claim a First
00:07:31.560 Amendment violation or it would only carry credibility if you're making that claim against
00:07:35.380 the government because private companies have no responsibility to protect your First Amendment
00:07:40.700 rights. But what Trump is alleging is that these private companies, so-called private companies,
00:07:46.340 are just an extension of the government. And he makes a good case. And every time Joe Biden
00:07:53.040 opens his mouth, he seems to make a good case. Meanwhile, China is spreading disinformation on
00:07:59.260 COVID. So what China is saying, they've sent out a bunch of tweets from their propagandists,
00:08:03.260 and they've said, the US is responsible for the world. How has the US poisoned the world? By the way,
00:08:10.560 they're like missing. It says, how has US poisoned the world? US is responsible to the world. And like
00:08:17.460 all this, you'd think they educate all of their students at American universities. You'd think
00:08:21.340 they'd have a slightly better grasp on the English language, and they don't really. But this is
00:08:25.980 obviously a piece of propaganda to deflect blame from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where the virus
00:08:32.600 escaped, to blame the United States or something. It's worth pointing out that under the lead of Dr.
00:08:37.940 Fauci, the United States actually funded the Wuhan laboratory. So I guess we bear some responsibility
00:08:41.780 in that regard. But sure enough, this is misinformation. Now, when I think about COVID
00:08:49.580 misinformation, though, and we're all putting our ire on China, I think, hmm, would we ever spread
00:08:55.480 misinformation? Would the US government ever? Because you just saw the Biden clip about the masks,
00:09:01.720 and you remember seeing the Dr. Fauci clip about the masks, and you saw the government denying that it
00:09:05.640 escaped from the Wuhan lab, and then later they said that it did, and then so, or that it very
00:09:09.340 likely did. And it seems like the United States has spread a bit of misinformation as well.
00:09:16.340 It seems that the bureaucrats and the politicians in charge in this country have spread a fair bit of
00:09:21.120 COVID misinformation as well. As a matter of fact, I think there are three groups right now that are
00:09:26.000 being called misinformers on COVID. There's the Chinese government, there's the US government,
00:09:31.880 and then there are just random conservatives. Those are the three groups.
00:09:39.640 Only one of those groups gets kicked off of Twitter for spreading quote unquote misinformation.
00:09:45.240 And ironically, it's the group that tends to be most correct, where the misinformation turns out
00:09:51.040 just to be information. China goes out and says that the United States developed this and released it.
00:09:56.060 Obviously a lie, they get to stay on Twitter.
00:09:57.820 The US government says, don't wear masks, they don't work. Do wear masks, they do work. Didn't
00:10:03.840 escape from the lab. Maybe it did escape from the lab. Vaccines have no side effects. Maybe the
00:10:07.740 vaccine, back and forth and back and forth, they don't get kicked off of Twitter.
00:10:12.120 Conservatives say, huh, kind of looks like that Wuhan virus. I bet that might have something to do with
00:10:17.680 the lab. Misleading, misinformation. I think there might be some side effects involving like
00:10:22.600 myocarditis and periocarditis and nerve system disorders from the vaccine. Misinformation,
00:10:30.600 censored, suspended for 12 hours. That's a pretty strange state of affairs that the people who are
00:10:36.120 most correct are the only group that are going to be censored for stating some plain facts.
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00:11:54.060 The liberal establishment is really ratcheting up the hysteria, is really ratcheting up the sense of
00:12:01.200 crisis, and is really ratcheting up attacks on political dissidents in the United States.
00:12:05.900 And I'm not just talking about a handful of kooky dissidents on the fringe. I'm talking about
00:12:11.840 half the country. New York Times reporter, Katie Benner, has just labeled Trump supporters,
00:12:21.620 not some Trump supporters, writ large, half the country, at least, enemies of the state.
00:12:27.840 Quote, today's January 6th select committee underscores the America's current, the America's,
00:12:37.520 New York Times people aren't hiring their best anymore. The America's current essential dilemma,
00:12:43.980 national security dilemma. Work to combat legitimate national security threats now entails
00:12:49.340 calling a politician's supporters enemies of the state. Katie Benner, by the way,
00:12:55.120 covers for the Times, the Justice Department. As Americans, we believe that state power should
00:12:59.980 not be used to work against a political figure or a political party. But, and there it is,
00:13:05.560 there's that but that's going to negate what she just said. But what happens if a politician seems
00:13:11.380 to threaten the state, if the politician continues to do so out of office and his entire party supports
00:13:17.380 the threat? Well, what happens is you're going to, if you can disingenuously, but nevertheless,
00:13:25.240 if you can label your political opponents, half the country, enemies of the state, then you can more
00:13:32.880 easily justify weaponizing the full force of the federal government against those people, including
00:13:39.420 the NSA, which has a foreign service mission. And yet was just caught spying on Tucker Carlson,
00:13:44.980 a domestic, very, very popular, I guess you'd call him political dissident because he opposes the
00:13:50.740 liberal regime. But it's very, as mainstream as they get, he's got the highest rated show on cable
00:13:55.760 news. And yet the NSA, which is only supposed to be looking at threats outside of the country,
00:14:01.840 spying on him. The FBI going after Donald Trump's campaign in 2016, a democratic party using the FBI
00:14:10.620 as its enforcement arm to spy on the political opponents. That's pretty scary. The jailing of
00:14:17.320 political dissonance. I mean, even if you look at the way that the January 6th people are being
00:14:21.600 treated compared to BLM, the January 6th people relatively wrought very little damage, didn't kill
00:14:27.380 people. The only person who died in political violence on that day was one of the Trump supporters.
00:14:34.280 And yet they get the book thrown at them and they're going to rot in prison. Meanwhile,
00:14:37.420 BLM burns down federal courthouses and kills a bunch of people and they get off the hook,
00:14:41.740 broadly get off the hook. That is because the BLM people are considered good, useful foot soldiers
00:14:49.560 for the liberal establishment. And the Trump supporters are enemies of the state. And we
00:14:54.540 treat enemies of the state differently than we would treat foot soldiers for the establishment.
00:15:00.240 Speaking of enemies of the state, you know, that insufferable cop, Officer Dunn, the one who said
00:15:07.140 he was called all sorts of terrible names on the basis of race. He had no evidence of this whatsoever.
00:15:11.700 Cameras all over the place that day, zillions of hours of video, but no, we never found any evidence
00:15:16.300 of the dubious events he's describing. So Officer Dunn has something to say about enemies of the state.
00:15:21.880 He says that the people at the Capitol, the people who stole Pelosi's lectern were much,
00:15:27.700 much worse than the BLM rioters who burned the country down.
00:15:31.220 First Amendment protests is what this country is about. The First Amendment, the Constitution,
00:15:36.700 that's the democracy of it. But once you start attacking people, attacking things,
00:15:43.680 then that's wrong. And you know what? That goes to the riots this summer. They were wrong. If you
00:15:49.240 peacefully protest, then sure. But the riots and the violence and the damage this summer,
00:15:54.140 they were wrong. They were wrong. And that's the exact same thing that happened at the Capitol.
00:16:01.220 But their goal was to overthrow democracy, which is a bigger threat to America.
00:16:07.640 Wow. Big of you to say that that killing dozens of people and burning down businesses and homes and
00:16:13.380 courthouses to big of you to say that that's wrong. Hey, look, I'm a reasonable guy. Okay.
00:16:17.560 I think killing dozens of people is wrong. Oh, thanks. Thanks, man. Okay. I'm glad we can at
00:16:24.780 least agree on that. But that's the exact same thing that happened at the Capitol. No, it's not.
00:16:29.040 No, it's not. They're not even close. Burning down city after city after city,
00:16:33.440 killing person after person after person, burning down police station after police station after
00:16:37.600 federal courthouse, stealing property after property after property, and threatening to do it
00:16:42.220 again with the explicit support of, of members of the, the Democrat Congress and Senate and the
00:16:47.460 sitting vice president. Now that is not the same as making a mess of Nancy Pelosi's desk. It's not,
00:16:53.040 it's not even close. They are completely incomparable events. And yet we're now being,
00:17:01.260 not only is he saying they're the same, he's actually, he's actually then later saying what
00:17:05.360 happened at the Capitol is worse because they want to overthrow democracy. Burning down a courthouse,
00:17:09.500 federal courthouse, that's not overthrowing democracy. Burning down the symbol of the justice
00:17:14.680 system. That's, that's not overthrowing democracy, but jumping up and down with a horn hat on. That is
00:17:21.040 pathetic, pathetic. So what are we going to do about it? We're just going to complain, right?
00:17:26.280 That's what we're going to do. I think the only people who are, who are doing their job
00:17:31.560 in, in this entire fiasco, and I hate to toot my own horn, but it's those of us on the communicator
00:17:38.380 side of it. It's those of us in the conservative media. It's those, and I'm not saying, look,
00:17:43.560 I think it'd be much better if legislators were actually taking action or judges were taking action
00:17:46.920 or people with real hard political power were taking action. But all, all we can do, if you have
00:17:52.960 a microphone, all you can do is call attention to this stuff that the mainstream media won't talk
00:17:57.060 about. All you can do is call attention to not only what's happening in the news, but what that,
00:18:02.460 what that relates to from a philosophical perspective, from an historical perspective,
00:18:06.400 you can provide context, you can lay out the plan of what to do. But if you're not sitting
00:18:11.960 in Congress, if you're not sitting in the Senate, if you're not a legislator, if you're not in the
00:18:16.300 bureaucracy, if you're not a judge, then you don't have that hard political power to do something.
00:18:20.860 So do something, do something guys. Thankfully, some congressmen are finally doing something very
00:18:27.300 important here. Representatives, Jim Jordan and Kathy McMorris Rogers are now introducing
00:18:34.080 legislation. Finally, finally, thank you guys for doing this when, I don't know why other Republicans
00:18:40.340 hadn't done this yet, to amend section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. You know, this is the
00:18:47.420 provision of the CDA, which would give legal protections, liability protections to big tech
00:18:54.900 companies and allows them to act as publishers, but then claim that they're not publishers and
00:18:59.460 basically just allows them to censor you and political dissidents and, and the president of
00:19:03.920 the United States for that matter, who ironically is a kind of political dissident when the entire
00:19:08.920 political order is run by the liberal establishment. The Communications Decency Act, which ironically
00:19:16.460 was gutted by the Supreme Court and the central provision, the anti-indecency provisions, the whole
00:19:22.540 point of the CDA was to control pornography on the internet in the early days of the internet. And that
00:19:28.700 central provision was gutted by libs on the Supreme Court. And so that, but, but this section 230 has
00:19:35.480 remained. And so this is great stuff. You know, section 230 stipulates that, quote, no provider or
00:19:42.680 user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information
00:19:46.400 provided by another information content provider. This would, this law or this, you know, this bill that's
00:19:53.120 being proposed by Jordan and Rogers would exempt certain gigantic big tech companies from this sort of
00:20:00.300 protection. It's a good step in the right direction because the entire establishment right now is trying to
00:20:06.200 criminalize conservative thought. Exhibit A, the Atlantic. The Atlantic and Applebaum is well-known
00:20:14.940 political writer. She has a piece out called the MyPillow guy really could destroy democracy.
00:20:24.120 So Mike Lindell, you know, MyPillow, a company that has supported this show and many, many other
00:20:30.260 conservative shows, he could destroy democracy. He's a very nice guy, patriotic guy, very inspiring story.
00:20:36.180 He could apparently destroy democracy. If democracy can be destroyed by a pillow salesman,
00:20:48.360 then democracy was probably not all that sturdy in the first place. Okay. And, and I, I just want to
00:20:56.480 reiterate here when Ann Applebaum or Nancy Pelosi or Kamala Harris or anybody else refer to,
00:21:06.800 our democracy, they are not referring to democracy. None of these people like democracy. All of these
00:21:13.140 people are progressives. The point of progressivism is to make the country less democratic, to take
00:21:18.900 political power away from the people, to upend the constitutional order and give it to bureaucrats.
00:21:24.800 Biden and Biden spokesmen said it clearly. We follow the science. We don't follow the judgment and
00:21:31.440 prudence of the people. We don't follow the constitution in many places. We follow whatever
00:21:36.720 the egghead bureaucrats tell us. They don't like democracy. As Angelo Cotavilla says very well,
00:21:43.060 when they refer to our democracy, they are actually referring to their oligarchy. Okay.
00:21:50.180 So please spare me the crocodile tears over our democracy. When you're trying, you're, you're
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00:23:25.500 against the unwashed masses. Now they're called the unvaccinated or the unmasked. Nancy Pelosi
00:23:34.640 has ordered the Capitol Hill police to arrest visitors and staff members of committees and
00:23:43.640 United States congressmen who are not wearing masks in the Capitol.
00:23:50.700 There are two houses, right? There are two chambers. There's the House of Representatives
00:23:54.780 and the Senate. Both are controlled by the Democrats right now. In the Democrat controlled
00:24:00.260 Senate, you do not need to wear a mask. There's no mask mandate. You won't be fined. It's cool.
00:24:05.220 So a Democratic senator can just walk around without a mask on. It's fine. Or a Republican
00:24:11.280 senator or anyone else. If you're in the House of Representatives, you'll be fined $500
00:24:16.180 every time that you do not wear a mask. If you're a member of Congress and if you're a staff member or
00:24:22.620 a visitor, you will be arrested. I'm glad at least that Pelosi has stopped short of arresting House
00:24:30.060 members. Might look a little bit like an insurrection, wouldn't you say? Might look a
00:24:34.520 little bit like a coup. Huh? How ironic. So she stopped short of that for now. But this of course
00:24:40.460 has nothing to do with science and this has nothing to do with stopping the spread of coronavirus.
00:24:44.360 On the very day that Nancy Pelosi decided to start enforcing this measure of arresting people,
00:24:53.120 for goodness sakes, if they're not wearing masks in the Capitol, Nancy Pelosi was spotted and
00:24:59.940 photographed at a crowded event not wearing a mask. The event was outside, but it was very crowded.
00:25:08.840 It's very, very crowded. And by the way, Pelosi's ordering the masks to be worn all over the Capitol
00:25:12.860 ground. So it's not even that it's only in certain rooms or anything like that. And she violated her
00:25:16.860 own order or her own principle the same day. But it doesn't matter. No one really believes that this
00:25:23.860 matters in terms of public health. These people just want to impose their will. It's politically
00:25:32.240 advantageous. They took a lot of power from people and they're not going to give it back.
00:25:36.060 As some of us warned last year when there were some conservatives who went a little squishy,
00:25:41.560 I got to tell you. They went a little squishy on the masks and they said, oh, it's okay. It's a
00:25:45.440 reasonable measure and it'll help us get back to normal. It won't. It won't. It is the symbol
00:25:49.700 of the power that the left took from you. We need to go on offense. Here's a great new bill that was
00:25:59.180 introduced. It's probably not going to go anywhere, but it's a great new bill. This is what I'm talking
00:26:03.280 about when I say offense. Ronald Reagan had a great line. He said, when you're explaining,
00:26:07.180 you're losing. You might have every perfect explanation in the world because you did
00:26:11.660 something or because you said something, but it doesn't matter. If you're the one on defense
00:26:14.520 explaining, then you're losing. We need to put the left on defense. So representative Michael
00:26:22.100 Waltz from Florida has introduced legislation meant to promote financial transparency within the
00:26:28.940 Biden and Harris immediate families because of Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden, who is this influence
00:26:34.380 peddling criminal who has traded on his father's name and sold his father's influence to the
00:26:39.280 highest bidder around the world, to Ukraine, to China. He tried to sell it to China. He's made a
00:26:44.580 lot, a lot of money on this, merely selling his name in industries that he has absolutely no expertise
00:26:51.840 in whatsoever. So now Hunter Biden is a painter. He calls himself a professional painter. His work is
00:26:58.780 actually not by the standards of modern art. So I'm damning with faint praise. It's not terrible,
00:27:03.400 but it's not good. It looks, it's like something a third grader could do. So Hunter Biden is now a
00:27:08.840 painter and he's selling his very bad paintings for half a million dollars a pop. Hmm. Do you,
00:27:16.220 do you think that the anonymous buyers of these paintings, do you think they just really have
00:27:21.040 an appreciation for the little doodles that Hunter's doing? Or do you think maybe they're trying to buy
00:27:26.400 influence, which is the, the real industry that Hunter Biden's worked in his entire life?
00:27:30.780 So Representative Waltz introduced the Preventing Anonymous Income by Necessitating Transparency
00:27:41.220 of Executive Relatives Act. Or, because you know Washington loves an acronym, the Painter Act.
00:27:49.840 Really great stuff. It's, it's a bit harsh actually. It says that these relatives need to report
00:27:55.600 the source and type of earned income exceeding a thousand dollars and the source and type of any
00:28:00.340 honoraria received more than $200. And so it's actually the source and type of income from rents
00:28:07.040 and dividends and interest in capital gains over $200. So that's, you know, that's a very low
00:28:11.440 threshold for earnings and, but it doesn't matter. The law is not going to go through. I just love,
00:28:16.620 I love the name. I love the angle. I love the point of it. I actually wish a similar law would go
00:28:21.000 through. And I like that we're on offense. I like that we're calling attention to, hold on a sec.
00:28:25.520 I don't, why are you still talking about Trump? Look at what the Bidens are doing. Look at their
00:28:30.000 corruption. This is how I feel about the January 6th commission is why are we talking about January
00:28:37.500 6th when, when BLM burned the country down with the encouragement of leftists and Democrats for,
00:28:43.560 for six to eight months. Speaking of going on offense, really, really great stuff from professors
00:28:50.840 Robbie George and John Finnis. These are two conservative scholars, professors. They filed an
00:28:57.320 amicus brief in this Dobbs case. You know, this is the case I've mentioned a few times on the show.
00:29:02.760 It's the one that seeks to overturn Roe v. Wade and to overturn Planned Parenthood v. Casey and to say
00:29:07.340 there's no constitutional right to an abortion, which obviously there isn't. So they filed a brief for
00:29:12.140 the court to give them context, arguing, not just that, you know, if, if Roe v. Wade is overturned,
00:29:22.000 that then the question goes back to the states and the states can decide if they want to have
00:29:25.960 abortion or not have abortion, right? That's been the kind of conservative talking point for the last
00:29:29.580 few decades. They're going further. Robbie George and John Finnis are going further and they're saying,
00:29:35.180 actually, the 14th Amendment, when it was ratified, was understood to consider unborn children as
00:29:45.200 persons. And if unborn children are persons, then they have the right not to be killed without due
00:29:50.380 process. So it goes further. It's not just that the abortion question goes back to the states. It goes
00:29:55.040 further to say that abortion is illegal. It's obviously unjust. It's obviously immoral. And it's,
00:30:01.760 it's prohibited by the 14th Amendment. I love this kind of offense. I love this kind of aggression.
00:30:06.860 Really, really good stuff from these professors. Is it going to have an effect on the case?
00:30:11.560 I don't know. I don't think it's going to give us this result in the case, but I think what
00:30:14.240 conservatives need to start doing is arguing past the sale. Don't just ask for what you want. Just
00:30:19.220 don't, don't just demand what you want. Go further, go way, way, way further. So that when you start to
00:30:23.900 reconcile, when you start to compromise, then you can go back to what you really want. Donald Trump was
00:30:28.520 really good at this. The Democrats are really good at this. And, and Republicans need to get
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00:31:30.220 mailbag. Welcome back to my favorite time of the week, the mailbag. First question from Marisa, who
00:31:47.760 says, I recently heard that yoga is actually bad and demonic. I have never heard this before and enjoy
00:31:53.760 yoga on the occasion for both exercise and relaxation. In a world with constant stimulation,
00:31:59.600 I find it nice to relax and clear your thoughts as you do in yoga. There is the old saying,
00:32:03.560 an idle mind is the devil's playground and is that why yoga is bad? Why does something that brings me
00:32:09.040 relaxation, why is it detrimental to my soul? Sincerely, Namaste. Whatever Knowles says is right
00:32:15.320 is probably right. Wow. Great, great, great sign off. Yes, it is. I was trying to figure out if I
00:32:25.840 could sugarcoat it or no. It's just, it is bad and it almost certainly is demonic and you shouldn't do
00:32:31.580 it. Okay. Why? Because yoga is not just stretching. Stretching is fine. Meditating actually is fine.
00:32:41.040 Clearing your thoughts and having stillness. Prayer is certainly fine. But yoga is not just that. Yoga
00:32:47.580 is a religious ritual. It is a Hindu liturgy. That's where it comes from. And Hinduism has all
00:32:53.900 sorts of different gods that it worships that are not the god of Christianity. Okay. And it has all
00:33:01.400 sorts of spiritual aspects and it's got the chanting and the humming and the focusing. And it falls into a
00:33:07.620 number of theological errors, pretty dangerous ones. One of them, for instance, would be monism. The
00:33:14.440 idea that everything is just one, right? It's all the universe, man. And we're part of the universe
00:33:20.180 and we're part of the creation and God is kind of part. It's all just the same thing, man. You know,
00:33:24.100 we're all just going back into that same thing. That is a very popular idea in new age. It's popular
00:33:29.120 in non-theistic religions, but it's not Christian. The Christian idea is that, and the Jewish idea and the
00:33:33.760 Muslim idea is that there is God and then God, the creator, makes the creation and we are part of
00:33:39.400 creation. So we have a close relationship to God and we are made in the image of God, but we are not
00:33:43.820 all just one man. There actually are distinct things. It also falls into the heresy of Gnosticism,
00:33:50.320 that if you just, you know, if you just sort of think certain things and you know certain truths
00:33:54.480 that that, and you just kind of meditate on that, that you'll be able to transcend the world. And that's
00:33:59.040 very important. You know, I understand we're getting into sort of subtle distinctions here,
00:34:06.160 but that is not a Christian idea, this Gnostic idea that's associated with yoga. Same thing with
00:34:13.980 this sort of technical idea of yoga, that if you put your body in certain positions, this is going to
00:34:18.320 unlock certain spiritual fruits. This technical aspect is also not exactly Christian. But even just
00:34:26.220 the basic fact that it is a liturgy from another religion that is rather different and contradictory
00:34:32.080 toward your religion is why you shouldn't do it. If you want to stretch and relax, I recommend
00:34:36.800 Pilates and meditation and prayer. From Sarah, hey Michael, I started dating a guy almost a year ago and
00:34:42.940 things have been going really well. We're extremely compatible. I think we both helped each other
00:34:47.200 improve as people. I love him to death and I wouldn't trade him for anything. There's only one problem.
00:34:51.980 He's an atheist and I'm a Christian. I've been able to ignore this problem thus far.
00:34:57.040 As people have started mentioning marriage, he seems to be nowhere near converting and it's become
00:35:01.940 abundantly clear that I need to address this. Do you think it's acceptable for me to continue with
00:35:05.540 this relationship? If not, how do I approach him about this? Thanks for the help. Sincerely,
00:35:09.360 facing the atheist factor. Trademark. Tough problem that you're in.
00:35:12.840 It depends on your place in life. When sweet little Elise and I started dating back in the
00:35:20.760 Carter administration, back when we were like two years old, we dated in high school. We've
00:35:25.580 known each other since we were 10 or 11 years old. Back in those days, we had very different
00:35:29.680 political views, very different religious views. I told you I was an atheist for a decade or so.
00:35:34.000 We've grown together. You either grow together or you grow apart. If you're 16 years old or something
00:35:40.040 and you've got these different views, I wouldn't worry so much about it because you're still
00:35:44.080 educating yourself. You're still changing. You're evolving. You're going to grow together
00:35:47.820 very likely. If you're 30 and you're really looking seriously at marriage right now and you guys just
00:35:54.880 have these really set views that are not likely to change all that much, then that becomes a real
00:36:00.460 problem in no small part because theoretically your husband will be the head of household, right?
00:36:04.920 And so how do you have a marriage where the husband has this just completely false view of
00:36:12.220 the world and where he, if he assumes a leadership role, is going to lead your family on the most
00:36:18.520 important matters and these spiritual matters in the wrong direction. And if he doesn't assume a
00:36:22.560 leadership role, that's a problem too. So I think it is going to come to a head. It's a tough
00:36:27.700 tough issue for you, but he's got to get it in order and he, he's going to, he's going to have to
00:36:35.100 make some hard decisions, I think, or you're going to give up your faith, but you will grow together or
00:36:39.860 you will grow apart. And if, if he's not going to come see the fullness of truth, then, then you're,
00:36:46.720 you're in for a bad, you're in for a bad conclusion either way. From Anders, Anders, Anders,
00:36:52.720 greetings and salutations to he who knows much. I've been watching your show for a little over a year
00:36:57.060 now and have been intrigued by your faith. A lot of religious questions today. There always are.
00:37:01.900 I grew up as a member of a Christian household, but in recent years have fallen away and lost
00:37:05.080 interest in the church, mainly because of the lack of leadership there. That being said, my question
00:37:09.060 is this, in your mind, is there a difference between Protestantism and Catholicism? If so,
00:37:12.500 are the two irreconcilable? I find the tenets of Catholicism attractive, but was raised to think
00:37:16.640 of it as a kind of false doctrine. Sincerely, he who knows little, but seeks much. There's a great book
00:37:21.600 on this point for people who, you know, I was not raised Protestant, so I didn't have those problems,
00:37:25.580 though I, on my way back from atheism, I spent a lot of time reading Protestants and
00:37:30.200 really appreciating. I mean, some Protestants were actually very important in my reversion to the
00:37:33.540 faith, but ultimately I did not remain in the Protestant world. I reverted to Catholicism. I do
00:37:40.100 think that's the true faith and, you know, I, obviously I think there's a distinction and I've,
00:37:44.100 I've made my choice. There's a good book called Rome's Sweet Home, which is a book about people who
00:37:51.160 are either fundamentalist especially or just Protestant more broadly and answering some
00:37:55.900 issues about Catholicism. It has been said that, that there are not a hundred people in this country
00:38:01.080 who hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions of people who hate what they believe
00:38:05.500 to be the Catholic Church. They just are, you know, have been taught wrong. I mean, you'll hear a lot
00:38:09.600 of these things that Catholics worship Mary and the saints, which is not true, or Catholics believe
00:38:14.360 that you earn your salvation, which is, you know, that you achieve your salvation through your own
00:38:18.480 effort exclusively. That obviously is not true. That Catholics worship idols. That obviously is
00:38:24.560 not true. And, and these debates go back 2,000 years and there are many more sophisticated people
00:38:28.880 who have written on them and settled them than you or I or many people writing today. So I would
00:38:33.820 encourage you to do that. I would encourage you to check out resources like Catholic Answers.
00:38:37.920 Great, great website and, and media company. I would recommend that you check out the Patrick
00:38:42.320 Madrid show. It's a wonderful podcast and radio show, friend of mine, Patrick Madrid. My friend,
00:38:47.480 Patrick Coffin, great, great too. He's, he's a little more for the already initiated, you know,
00:38:51.660 but, but still very, very terrific broadcaster. But Patrick Madrid, I think, could, could really help
00:38:56.700 answer some of these questions. And I think they're irreconcilable until the church comes back
00:39:04.900 together in the end, which I suspect will happen. But beyond the, the issue of the place of Mary and
00:39:10.780 of the saints and of the episcopacy and the bishops and the pope and all, beyond all that, I think
00:39:15.500 the central issue here is one, if you believe in the divine institution of a real church by a real guy
00:39:22.260 who's incarnate, then, and you believe that the apostles really did receive certain graces and
00:39:29.100 you believe that they really did choose their replacements and you believe that there is a line
00:39:32.880 and there is history and there's a continuity to this institution. I think that leads one in the
00:39:37.220 direction of the Catholic church. And also on a philosophical level, if you believe that there's
00:39:44.340 the physical world and the metaphysical world, and they seem very separate, right? This, this world
00:39:49.720 that we're living in and then the supernatural, the outside of physical. And you believe that
00:39:54.800 sometimes they come together most perfectly in the person of Christ, who is fully man, but also fully
00:40:02.200 God. And somehow he's together in this hypostatic union. If you believe that, and you believe that he
00:40:09.240 institutes sacraments, you know, he, he says, you have the power to forgive sins, whose sins you
00:40:14.540 forgive are forgiven, whose sins you retain are retained. You have the keys to the kingdom of
00:40:18.240 heaven. He says this to Peter, the first pope, you have the keys to the kingdom of heaven and the gates
00:40:23.700 of hell will not, will not prevail against my church and go feed my sheep and all of these sorts of
00:40:29.060 things. If you believe in the institution of the Eucharist, that there, this, the Eucharist really is
00:40:34.780 the body and blood of Christ, then what you're saying at a philosophical level is mankind requires
00:40:41.100 the regular meeting of the physical and the metaphysical. And we know that we do because
00:40:47.400 we are physical beings, but we're also metaphysical beings. And we need that regular communion with,
00:40:52.320 between those two things. And I think the place you're going to find that is the Catholic church.
00:40:56.160 Your mileage may vary of course, but, but that would be one of my arguments. From Ben, hi Michael.
00:41:01.260 There is a lot of talk about the flaws of America and other Western countries where they criticize
00:41:05.080 and are allowed to complain at a nauseous level. My question is, which country would you least desire
00:41:10.740 to live in if you could also exclude only one? Basically in 2021, which country would be a bleephole
00:41:15.900 country, would win the bleephole country medal at the Olympics? Thanks, sincerely came for the beer
00:41:21.400 and blue jeans, stayed for the beer and blue jeans, hashtag America. I think Afghanistan would be the place
00:41:26.480 I'd least like to live. It is historically one of the most dangerous, poor, tumultuous countries and
00:41:32.180 no one seems able to conquer it. I guess that's something it has going for it, but
00:41:35.280 seems, seems like a tough place to live. And pretty strange that the United States has been there for
00:41:42.480 20 years. It's 20 years now, isn't that, isn't that wild? But that's probably where I mean, no offense
00:41:47.520 to the Afghani people, but it does not seem pleasant. Of course, according to the left, America is no better
00:41:55.020 than Afghanistan. In some ways, we're worse. From Archie, Michael, what is your favorite brand of sockless
00:42:01.120 loafers? And where do you stand on tassels? My favorite brand of sockless loafers, I'm not even being paid to
00:42:06.220 advertise them as Rancourt and Company, from Maine. My thoughts on tassels, are there a little more old school?
00:42:11.160 I'm not quite, I don't have quite enough gray hairs yet. I prefer the penny loafer, but I'll wear tassels
00:42:15.700 on occasion. From Jared, dear Michael, my wife is not a citizen yet. We're working on the paperwork, though.
00:42:21.720 She informed me recently that one of her relatives is here on a student visa and is planning to let
00:42:25.680 the visa lapse and just stay here illegally. As a Christian and a conservative, I feel very strong
00:42:29.680 loyalty to my family, but I also feel the duty to do something about this, lest I be a hypocrite in
00:42:33.660 discussions of illegal immigration. What can I do to remedy this dissonance? Sincerely, in a Vin Diesel
00:42:37.940 voice, I don't need ice, I got family. That's a tough predicament you're in, but I actually think
00:42:46.420 there's a pretty straight answer. You should state your views on the matter, both to your wife, to
00:42:54.240 your wife's relative, to anyone who is interested in listening. But I don't think you should rat this
00:42:59.840 relative out to the cops. I don't think that would be the right thing to do. I think perhaps you should
00:43:03.540 persuade this relative to leave the country, and then if she wants to move here, to do that in a
00:43:08.140 legal way. But I don't think it is your obligation or your duty or really even your place to call the
00:43:14.620 cops and have your relative deported, especially as the immigration law is not being enforced,
00:43:19.600 even by law enforcement. I don't think it would do anything, frankly. We've already let a million
00:43:24.700 illegal aliens into the country so far this year. There's no chance, there's no evidence that they're
00:43:29.020 going to slow down. So I just think nobody likes a tattletale. So what you can do is work on a
00:43:35.800 personal level, but I don't think that you need to be the tattletale and the enforcement arm of ICE.
00:43:41.400 Even ICE is not the enforcement arm of ICE. From Nick, in 1984, the slogan war is peace
00:43:46.700 lends to the idea that the party can use international war for the purpose of domestic
00:43:51.940 peace. But what would you say that our party, or what would you say that our party is using a
00:43:58.420 domestic culture war to establish peace within the shifting political landscape via slate of hand?
00:44:03.260 From Nick, the happily married one. Good, this is not the Nick who, I like that other Nick too,
00:44:07.860 but that guy's got problems sometimes. So to the more stable Nick, I think you're catching on to
00:44:14.240 something. What you're asking, if I understood your question correctly, is, is the Republican Party
00:44:19.760 just ginning up people's opinions in the culture war without any intention of ever resolving the
00:44:26.380 issues because actually they benefit? So for instance, on pro-life, I suspect that there are many
00:44:31.400 conservatives and Republicans who don't really want to move the needle on abortion.
00:44:35.800 They just, they actually would prefer to keep abortion a live issue because they can fundraise
00:44:39.640 on it and it actually helps them politically. Yeah, I think that's true. And I've, I've talked
00:44:44.620 with various people on Capitol Hill who, who have told me as much that there were some squishier
00:44:50.760 Republicans who, they actually don't really want anything to happen on abortion. They just,
00:44:54.140 they just like fundraising from it. It's too bad, but that's the way it works. And I think
00:44:59.420 probably we've got to do a better job of chasing those people out of office. All right, final question.
00:45:05.800 From Jessica, conservatives have a very traditional view of women in the world where traditional has
00:45:09.620 become synonymous with sexist and malignant. They have infiltrated the minds of women and men,
00:45:13.260 seemingly placing a higher value on masculine qualities such as monetary success and success
00:45:16.840 outside the home. Shouldn't the right's focus be on redefining success and happiness or focus on
00:45:22.020 showing the feminine qualities are different rather than less than? Respectfully,
00:45:25.620 nullsplaining over mansplaining. You are so right, my dear. You are so right, Jessica.
00:45:30.780 What the right often does is accepts the left's premises and then impotently sort of tries to
00:45:38.920 argue against them. Don't accept the premises, fight back, push hard, get aggressive, or else we're
00:45:44.280 going to be here not on the 500th day to slow the spread. We're going to be here on the thousandth
00:45:47.880 day, the 1500th day, the 2000th day. I'll see you next time. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael
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