The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 83 - Terrible Performances, Oprah To Jake Tapper

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00:00:37.800 Last night, Hollywood's richest and most famous letchers, assailants, and enablers gathered at

00:00:43.160 the Golden Globes as their city, industry, and reputations smoldered in ruin to lecture the rest

00:00:48.820 of America on morality and demand even more millions of dollars to play pretend. We will

00:00:53.880 analyze the tone-deaf, oblivious preening. Then we'll dissect Stephen Miller's showdown

00:00:59.180 with former journalist Jake Tapper in a documentary segment I call Jake Tapper Mean Girl.

00:01:05.360 Finally, Daily Wire's Alicia Krauss and Ariel Davidson from The Federalist join the panel of

00:01:10.360 deplorables to discuss Oprah 2020, the deportation of 200,000 Salvadorans. 200,000 Salvadorans, by the way,

00:01:17.720 as the new 50 million Frenchmen. They can't be wrong, but they can be deported. And the psychiatric 0.96

00:01:22.380 smears against our stable genius president. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:35.780 I did it. I did it so that you don't have to, folks. I was 100% of the television audience last

00:01:42.120 night for the Golden Globes, and this was really awful. I usually have to cover this stuff for the

00:01:47.200 Daily Wire or the Andrew Klavan show or something. This was the worst, most insufferable awards show

00:01:53.680 that I have ever seen. It was last night. You would expect after a year of Hollywood being ripped to

00:02:00.000 shreds, all of them being exposed as enabling, corrupt, corrosive, sexually deviant monsters and 0.99

00:02:06.240 hypocrites, you'd expect they might be a little repentant. They might be a little penitent and, 1.00

00:02:11.340 you know, sorry, mea culpa, keep their mouths shut. Absolutely not. What they did,

00:02:15.660 what they did was so brave last night. They wore, I don't know if you saw, there was a

00:02:19.800 why we wear black. That was the hashtag. These people are so brave. They wore black clothing

00:02:25.840 to a black tie event. That's a round of applause. Such, it brings a tear to my eye when I think they

00:02:31.920 wore black to a formal event in the evening. It's just unbelievable. They didn't reform anything about 1.00

00:02:36.600 their industry or their city, or they didn't even really apologize. They just, they wore black.

00:02:42.000 Well done, everybody. It was so, so brave. It was really disingenuous too. There were all of these

00:02:47.200 speeches and all of the red carpet and everything, but it all came off as disingenuous. Even

00:02:53.300 Reese Witherspoon introduced Oprah Winfrey. She was winning a big prize, a big honorary award.

00:03:01.180 And the whole performance was very saccharine. It was, and it wasn't believable. You would think that

00:03:06.480 the best and most famous actors in the world would be believable at an industry event, but they

00:03:11.400 weren't. Ironically, there were these terrible performances. I think the reason for that is they

00:03:17.360 gave up their glamour. They gave up their claims to glamour. The only reason people watch these

00:03:22.020 award shows is for the glitz and the glamour, and they're wearing a gazillion dollars of jewelry and

00:03:26.700 gold and dresses and things like that. But they gave that away, and this has been going on for

00:03:31.840 decades, but it's gotten much worse in the last 10 years. Now they just complain. They just whine

00:03:37.180 and complain, and it takes all the glamour out of it. Here's Natalie Portman ruining Guillermo del 1.00

00:03:41.940 Toro's first Best Director win after 25 years in the industry.

00:03:45.320 To be here to present the award for Best Director.

00:03:51.800 And here are the all-male nominees.

00:03:54.160 Here are the all-male nominees. Just totally sucked the air out of the moment. It would have 1.00

00:04:03.360 been a glitzy, really nice moment. Why were no female directors nominated? Why were they no,

00:04:08.280 why that's, that's, well, here's the reason, because very few women directed top-grossing films 1.00

00:04:12.740 last year or the year before. There's one example of a really good film last year,

00:04:18.260 one Best Picture, Lady Bird, but she didn't get a nomination, Greta Gerwig, for directing it.

00:04:23.380 But this happened to Ben Affleck. It happened in 2012. Argo got Best Picture at the Oscars. He

00:04:28.180 didn't get a nomination for Best Director. That sort of happens. Why are there so few women 1.00

00:04:32.040 directors? I don't know. Only 7% of major films were directed by women in 2016. I think it was

00:04:37.840 like 11% last year. Why is that? Well, until recently, many, many more men than women attended

00:04:44.020 film school, particularly in the field of directing. That trend is still true at many film schools.

00:04:49.540 It is, now there's a little bit more gender parity in film school graduates, although in the field of 0.88

00:04:56.580 directing, not so. And we don't really know the numbers of applicants. We have every reason to

00:05:01.240 believe that many, many more people are applying to be directors who are men than women. Why is that?

00:05:08.040 Well, we, why would we expect gender parity in every profession? There are plenty of professions where

00:05:12.560 we don't have gender parity. We don't say 50% of NASCAR drivers aren't women. This is an example of

00:05:17.460 collusion or collusion of discrimination. I got in trouble on Twitter last night. I pointed this out

00:05:24.280 that this random statistic is not in itself evidence of discrimination. You would have to show that.

00:05:30.040 And I got all these angry tweets. This one actress, Evan Rachel Woods, is that her name? Yeah. Evan

00:05:36.460 Rachel Wood, who's on Westworld. She tweeted at me very angrily and we had a respectful conversation.

00:05:42.420 She, she couldn't answer the points that I was making. So she said, well, I'm finished with this

00:05:46.260 conversation. And I said, okay. And then she blocked me because they can't engage with ideas 0.96

00:05:52.160 here. It's all posturing. It's all virtue signaling. There is no actual, actually looking at the industry

00:05:58.880 and the statistics. It's just little lapel buttons and let's wear black and look at how virtuous we are.

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00:08:10.820 There was all this virtue signaling on the issue of sexism and discrimination. But then in my

00:08:17.460 conversation with that actress, Evan Rachel Wood, she was complaining that she doesn't make as much 0.99

00:08:22.960 money as her co-stars on her television show. She didn't give us any statistics. Presumably,

00:08:27.520 Anthony Hopkins is going to make more money than she does. He is one of the legendary actors of

00:08:31.640 the last century. But regardless, she complains that she's not making enough money and yada, yada,

00:08:37.180 yada. This actress is worth $8 million, according to a simple Google search. All of these people who

00:08:43.580 are in this room at the Golden Globes are worth millions and millions of dollars, if not billions of

00:08:47.920 dollars like Oprah Winfrey. So to have them get up there and complain that they're not making enough

00:08:54.180 millions of dollars to pretend and play at pretending all day long, that doesn't play in

00:09:00.680 Peoria. Nobody wants to watch that. Nobody has the right to direct a movie. No one has the right to

00:09:05.880 direct a $50 million feature film or to act or to screenwrite. You don't have the right to have

00:09:11.620 movies made just because you want to and you feel very special. You have to go in. If you don't think

00:09:16.340 you're making enough money, negotiate. Fire your agent and get a better negotiator so that you can

00:09:21.180 get a better deal. Nobody's watching this because you don't, the American people don't have to watch

00:09:26.720 this. We don't have to watch you get up and shriek and scream and yell that you're not making enough 0.98

00:09:31.800 money. We can just tune out. That's what most Americans did. The Golden Globes ratings fell again,

00:09:36.740 even from last year. So it's down 5% overall and a whopping 11% in the key demographic of adults

00:09:43.100 aged 18 to 49. This is a six-year low. It matches even as far back as 2012's results.

00:09:51.480 So keep it up, folks. Take everybody for granted. Take your box office for granted. Take your audience

00:09:56.160 for granted. Keep on politicizing. Once light-hearted entertainment, it worked so, so well for ESPN,

00:10:02.740 didn't it? Is that even still a channel anymore? I don't know. Let's get into the Miller interviews.

00:10:09.300 There was this big, famous interview over the weekend. It got a lot of play. White House aide

00:10:13.160 Stephen Miller went on the television program of former journalist Jake Tapper. This is a segment

00:10:18.680 that I will call Jake Tapper, Mean Girl. Stephen, take it away. I can only tell you my experience,

00:10:24.420 which is that I joined the campaign in January of 16 before the first ballot was cast in the Iowa

00:10:30.620 caucus. Right. Bannon helped you get that job.

00:10:32.180 No. Corey Lewandowski is the one who offered me the job in the Trump campaign. But just to finish...

00:10:40.820 Bannon wasn't trying... Bannon wasn't helping you? Bannon didn't help you get that job on the

00:10:44.100 campaign? I think the person who probably helped me most get the job on the campaign

00:10:47.760 was probably Corey. But the most important thing, because I've been working with Corey before I joined,

00:10:53.300 to try and help out with the campaign. So it starts out, and Jake Tapper just keeps pushing,

00:10:58.740 just keeps pushing a fact that obviously isn't true. So he's trying to tie Stephen Miller to

00:11:04.280 Bannon. He's saying, Bannon got you the job. Let's not forget Stephen Miller was on the campaign

00:11:08.340 before Steve Bannon. He predates him on the campaign. Now, could you say, does he know Steve

00:11:13.340 Bannon? Did they work together? Yeah, I suppose so. You could just as easily say Stephen Miller got

00:11:17.820 Steve Bannon his job when he came on the campaign. These people are all working together. But Tapper's got

00:11:23.160 this agenda. And the tone that comes out from this interview, Stephen Miller comes off like a

00:11:28.720 robot. You know, he is just there. He's stating the facts as he sees them. He's correcting some

00:11:34.160 errors, the several errors that Jake Tapper is pushing. But Jake Tapper just comes off as like

00:11:39.560 this glib little schoolgirl, like a catty little schoolgirl. He said, well, don't you? Didn't you

00:11:44.240 do that? Don't you? He says, no, I didn't. He said, OK, he moves on. Let's move on to his next

00:11:48.720 accusation. Did you write a letter outlining reasons to fire Comey and list the Russia investigation?

00:11:53.780 Is that true? Here's the problem with what you're saying. The final draft of the letter,

00:11:58.400 the one that was made. I'm not talking about that one. I'm talking about the one that Kobe

00:12:01.000 has that mentions Russia. If you want to have an answer to your question and not to get hysterical,

00:12:07.320 then I'll answer it. The final draft of the letter has the same line about the fact that there is a

00:12:14.820 Trump-Russia investigation that this has nothing to do with. So it was just moved from the top to the

00:12:19.760 bottom. No. He said, no, look at the letter. It's the beginning. The investigation is referenced

00:12:24.900 in the beginning of the final letter that was released. It's like the huge embarrassment you

00:12:28.460 had when you got the Comey testimony wrong. Stephen, I'm trying to get to the issue of the

00:12:31.880 president's fitness, which a lot of people are questioning. I'm getting to the issue of your

00:12:34.580 fitness. Stephen, Stephen, we don't want to talk about me. We can't talk about me at all.

00:12:39.860 Jake Tapper has just gotten two major facts completely wrong, and he's been insisting on them and

00:12:44.260 insisting on them throughout this interview. Well, you took out the Russia line. We didn't take out the

00:12:49.100 Russia line. Well, you moved its placement. No, we didn't. The Russia line is still at the top of

00:12:52.800 the memo. And then Stephen Miller points out, he says, you know, Jake, you keep getting things

00:12:59.000 wrong here, and you keep trying to push a narrative, and it's a little weird, buddy. And all of a sudden,

00:13:03.860 Jake Tapper cuts him off. That's the thing you get out of this interview, is Jake Tapper doesn't

00:13:07.440 want his answers. He doesn't want to hear anything from him. He wants to cut him off and push a narrative.

00:13:12.320 Stephen Miller points this out, and this, I think, is the central takeaway from the interview.

00:13:16.880 Yeah. All these so-called political geniuses in Washington, whether it be at the big lobbying

00:13:22.400 firms or many of the well-known folks in Congress. The only person who's called himself a genius in

00:13:25.460 the last week is the president. Which happens to be a true statement. Okay.

00:13:28.760 It's self-made billionaire who revolutionized reality TV and who has changed the course of

00:13:33.620 our politics. And I'm sure he's watching and he's happy that you said that, but my question.

00:13:36.280 No, no. You can be condescending. I'm not being condescending. I'm trying to get to the point

00:13:40.260 that Steve Bannon. You can be condescending. That was a snide remark. You're sure he's watching

00:13:43.780 and he's happy. Let me tell you something. Your network, you can, look, you can be as

00:13:47.760 condescending as you want. It's part of your MO. But listen, the, you can have 24-7.

00:13:53.260 I have no idea why you're attacking me. You can have, well, I'll explain to you.

00:13:56.120 My point is, Steve Bannon, Steve Bannon.

00:13:59.120 I'm not being condescending. I'm not being passive aggressive. How many, how many times

00:14:02.520 has anyone ever said, I'm not being passive aggressive when they, when they weren't being

00:14:06.760 very, very passive aggressive? This is, this is what is really sad about Jake Tapper. He used to,

00:14:13.320 especially during the Obama years, he was a pretty tough journalist, played it straight.

00:14:17.220 When a lot of the media were fawning over Barack Obama, he didn't do that. He just played it as a

00:14:22.180 kind of straight faced guy going for the facts. And now he's this whiny, shallow, petulant little 0.99

00:14:29.200 school girl who says, well, I'm sure your boss saw it. And he just saw what you said. And then, 0.94

00:14:33.900 oh, he'll be so happy about that. But anyway, moving on, like, are you kidding me, buddy?

00:14:38.540 That you're supposed to be the last newsman in America. Why are you getting these snide little

00:14:43.120 barbs in this smug smarm? You don't need to do that. And by the way, Stephen Miller is,

00:14:48.880 is a robot. He, you can get very unemotional answers out of him, but Jake Tapper himself can't

00:14:55.440 refrain from being emotional in this interview. That's why Miller says, stop being hysterical.

00:14:59.640 Why are you trying to make this all personal? Why are you trying to get little barbs and

00:15:03.620 insults? And I'm giving you an answer. Uh, Jake Tapper revisits this later in the interview.

00:15:08.000 There's one viewer that you care about right now and you're being obsequious. You're being a factotum

00:15:11.980 in order to please him. Okay. And I think I've wasted it. I think I've wasted enough of my viewer's

00:15:16.260 time. Thank you, Stephen. As Republican lawmakers call for Attorney General Jeff Sessions to resign.

00:15:20.860 Two aspects of this. One, he has to cut him off because Stephen Miller isn't saying what he wants

00:15:24.740 him to say. So he isn't going along with the pre-scripted interview that Jake Tapper clearly had

00:15:30.260 outlined in his head. So he has to just cut him off very rudely. It was really awful. Even from

00:15:36.080 the beginning to bring up those personal insults and barbs is so rude, so unbecoming of a serious

00:15:42.280 newsman. But Jake Tapper hasn't been a serious newsman for a very long time. But to, to get that

00:15:47.740 same exact barb in again, it was pathetic. I mean, it was the sort of insult that you would hear in 0.97

00:15:53.440 middle school. You would hear somebody say, well, I know that really secretly you only care about this.

00:15:58.220 It's not even psychobabble. Psychobabble is much more elevated than what Jake Tapper is doing here

00:16:04.500 to Stephen Miller. And that's where it really takes a turn. Because Jake Tapper, having once

00:16:10.100 been a journalist, he is now fully at CNN. He's doing the CNN thing. God knows why. His bosses may

00:16:17.340 have told him that he had to turn up the smarm and the smug. He's basically auditioning to be Jon

00:16:21.460 Stewart. Outside of this interview, here are some other examples.

00:16:24.500 The House apparently does not like any questions about any of this. Not a ban. Okay. But I, I

00:16:31.260 could have sworn I heard somebody in the Trump administration using the term ban before.

00:16:37.880 Was it possibly President Trump? Okay. But to be fair, that was Sean Spicer on Sunday. Surely

00:16:44.320 he has not used the term ban since then, such as, I don't know, last night when he spoke at George

00:16:50.320 Washington University. It's all sarcasm. It's dripping in sarcasm. And he's, he's, uh, so

00:16:58.000 regularly missing his role. If he, the role that he once served as being a journalist and a straight

00:17:04.080 journalist, everything now is so elitist and so condescending. Stephen Miller, I wonder if he had

00:17:11.120 that even loaded up and ready to go to accuse him of being condescending. The Trump administration is

00:17:15.880 very good at branding people, finding an essential flaw in their character and pulling it to the

00:17:20.900 forefront and showing that to people. That is Jake Tappers. Donald Trump, I think, has made the

00:17:25.940 guy go completely mad and he can't help. He wears his hatred and fury and madness at Donald Trump on 0.98

00:17:33.560 his sleeve. It's affected a lot of his coverage. Regularly, he just misses the point entirely of news

00:17:40.800 stories. Akbar, God is great. Um, sometimes, uh, said under the most beautiful of circumstances.

00:17:46.760 And, and too often we hear of it being, being said in moments, uh, like this. That's the story,

00:17:51.600 right, Jake? The story is that Allahu Akbar, the chant of jihadis when they are about to blow things

00:17:56.360 up, that that's off. Oh, sometimes it's said in beautiful circumstances. That's the story.

00:18:00.140 Of course not. It's posturing and it's preening. Uh, uh, on other times though, he'll just outright lie.

00:18:06.400 It's not normal to, for a president to make fun of disabled people, right? That's not normal.

00:18:10.520 Yeah, right. Correct. When did he make fun of disabled people? When did he make fun of

00:18:14.500 somebody's disability? It didn't happen. This was a regular attack from the left during the 2016

00:18:19.720 primary debates because there was some reporter who was saying mean things about Trump and he

00:18:25.160 pretended to be spastic when he was impersonating him. But Donald Trump did precisely the same 0.56

00:18:29.920 impersonation when he was making fun of a general, when he was making fun of Ted Cruz, when he was

00:18:34.080 making fun of himself, actually. He was making fun of something that he himself had done in the past.

00:18:38.460 And he said, Oh yeah, I don't, I don't know. I, you know, I wasn't being coherent or making sense.

00:18:42.440 This was a total lie. Jake Tapper honestly peddled it. How about some more?

00:18:47.340 I want to ask you in Quebec city last week, a white right-wing terrorist opened fire on a mosque,

00:18:53.080 a mosque filled with innocent men, women, and children. Six people were killed. President Trump

00:18:58.140 has not said or tweeted one public word about this. You want to talk about ignoring terrorism?

00:19:03.440 Why hasn't the president offered his sympathy to our neighbors in the North?

00:19:07.740 Gee, Jake, do you still beat your wife? That is a fairer question than what you just brought up to

00:19:13.500 Kellyanne Conway. Not only is it a ridiculous in the position and the defense that it puts the, 0.52

00:19:19.980 the interviewee in, but it's just not grounded in any reality. We are know that president Trump had

00:19:26.220 already called the leaders of Canada and offered his support and offered his condolences on the

00:19:31.820 phone. So it isn't true. He did very, he publicly offered his support to the neighbors, to the

00:19:37.240 North, but that didn't go with the narrative. So Jake Tapper, he had to just, he had to reinvent

00:19:42.560 history and reinvent the presidency, which he keeps trying to do. He tried to reinvent it with Stephen

00:19:46.980 Miller. Miller wouldn't play along. So we kicked him off of his show now. So he used to be a journalist

00:19:52.520 in the Obama days. It's really gone downhill during the campaign, certainly during the

00:19:57.660 administration. He's even admitted his naked partisan advocacy on television, on election,

00:20:03.660 election night.

00:20:05.140 ...that we really need, that Hillary Clinton really needs to maintain. Let's just put this

00:20:09.680 on the board. We need to make, Hillary Clinton needs to keep a pencil. 1.00

00:20:14.800 We need it. We need, did you catch that? Did you catch what he said? He didn't say the Clinton

00:20:18.760 campaign. He said, well, we really need, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,

00:20:22.100 I mean the Clinton campaign. And so the only way that, ah, we will ever get into the Oval

00:20:26.720 of, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, jeez, is it hot in here? Is it hot in the CNN studios? Give me

00:20:31.200 a break. But he said it himself. He said, we are on the team. We are working for Hillary Clinton,

00:20:35.940 which was no surprise to anyone who's ever watched CNN. But it was a little bit sad for people

00:20:40.620 who used to like Jake Tapper because he used to be a journalist. The, the language has

00:20:44.340 continued since he's uh been uh since president trump was inaugurated and people accuse president

00:20:52.640 trump of using reckless rhetoric extremist rhetoric how about the extremist rhetoric from

00:20:56.620 jake tapper where president trump's tweets are windows into his soul unfiltered and often

00:21:02.440 seemingly unmoored unmoored and by the way this is the perennial attack against republicans 0.97

00:21:08.840 particularly against republican presidents and presidential candidates they have to be crazy 0.99

00:21:13.680 they're all out of their minds they're all mentally unfit to be president we're seeing this now this 0.99

00:21:18.100 is coming back up against president trump we'll talk about it a little more later some of its history 0.98

00:21:22.020 with uh ronald reagan and barry goldwater and even dan quayle even george w bush but he doesn't just

00:21:29.140 stop there he doesn't just question the president's mental capacities he also questions his loyalties

00:21:35.240 even the darkest days of the obama white house's war against fox news the obama white house never

00:21:40.120 banned fox from attending any sort of press gaggle or briefing this white house does not seem to

00:21:46.720 respect the idea of accountability this white house does not seem to value an independent press

00:21:53.200 there is a word for that line of thinking the word is un-american that isn't true by the way barack

00:22:01.380 obama did try to disinvite fox news from a press gaggle i think in 2009 and it was only because the rest of

00:22:06.940 the press wouldn't show up they were so offended by it that they uh had to continue to invite them

00:22:12.620 but obama actually did try to do that nothing unprecedented at all how about the final hit jake

00:22:18.620 uh if you are a soldier in harm's way right now if you are a hungry child in appalachia or the inner city

00:22:28.600 if you are an unemployed worker in a hollow shell of a steel town that's not a president who seemed

00:22:35.680 rather focused on your particular needs and wants that's a president focused on his bad press it was

00:22:42.660 unhinged a lot of americans are going to watch that press conference and think that guy is not focused

00:22:48.540 on me i don't even know what he's focused on just the facts cnn just the facts i'm jake tapper i'm a real

00:22:54.220 journalist look it looks like he was giving a campaign speech looks like he himself was running

00:22:58.660 for president what is it about journalists who say you know listen i don't know any of these people

00:23:03.080 and i'm certainly not in their shoes but if i were one of these wonderful americans i would hate this 0.98

00:23:08.320 president i would hate president trump and you should too totally totally pathetic and you know he once 0.98

00:23:14.060 said too he said no one is called people who don't want isis to move to their neighborhood 0.99

00:23:18.360 islamophobic that has never happened in the history of the world it's all of this hysterical 1.00

00:23:22.960 dishonest uh word choice that jake tapper has been engaging and it's glib it's snarky it's that 0.99

00:23:29.140 cattiness it reduced him from a real journalist to a catty high school girl really pathetic and i hope 0.98

00:23:34.440 he turns it around some of us hope for that but trump derangement syndrome hits us all and it seems 0.97

00:23:38.740 to have hit him speaking of the fairer sex let's bring on our panel we have ariel davidson from the 0.97

00:23:45.800 federalist we have alicia kraus the daily wires own ladies thank you for being here i've been looking at

00:23:51.140 jake tapper for like 15 minutes it's very nice to look at you and hear from you alicia who won the

00:23:56.780 debate between tapper and miller i don't think it was a debate and i have to say i'm gonna go against

00:24:01.200 you here michael uh having been on radio for a very long time and you know tv and podcasting for

00:24:06.200 a fairly long time 12 minutes jake tapper gave steve miller 12 minutes and it took seven and a half

00:24:14.560 minutes before tapper actually hit back and was annoyed with him so i was getting annoyed just watching it

00:24:20.480 and i think that steve miller definitely was dodging and definitely was playing to what he thought that

00:24:25.040 the president of the united states wanted to hear and did not answer one of those questions at all

00:24:28.920 i mean jake tapper asked a basic question about oh when did you come to the campaign and then he

00:24:32.980 started talking about how he didn't ask a question of when did you come to the campaign he made an

00:24:36.620 accusation he said bannon brought you on the campaign and miller said i was on the campaign before

00:24:40.940 bannon okay all that to say bad performance by both guys can we agree there i don't think it's this

00:24:46.380 takedown of the mainstream media that everyone is claiming it is it was obviously steven miller

00:24:51.920 went in there and he was given tons of time he was given more than 12 minutes to i mean 12 minutes

00:24:56.880 of jake tapper interrupting him i do i totally agree with you he went in there with his agenda as do all

00:25:02.860 white house flacks they go in there with their bullet points that they're going to hit steven miller

00:25:07.540 is a robot he's a highly intelligent robot and he was going to hit his points he wasn't going to answer

00:25:12.500 certain of jake tapper's questions but that doesn't excuse tapper tapper had two premises that were

00:25:17.540 just flat out false that he kept hammering and my question i don't care about that then miller

00:25:21.620 should have called them false and then moved along he tried to but jake kept interrupting he kept

00:25:26.060 interrupting him he did say that was false the russia line was in the top of the thing but i don't even

00:25:31.180 really mind that i don't care if jake tapper is going to hit a white house aide pretty hard i suppose

00:25:35.260 that's his job my question is the glibness the snark do you think that in this media age

00:25:41.500 of this clicky clickbaity age where so much of politics is now entertainment do we need that or

00:25:48.900 is there a place for a journalist like jake tapper circa 2009 who can cut all of that out and just

00:25:55.680 be really be a real bulldog but just stick with the facts i i think that there's definitely a place

00:26:00.680 for that but i think unfortunately you're going to have a very few people proven by your monologue

00:26:05.920 that that i think would triumph that i think that some people out there only want to hear

00:26:10.780 what they want to hear for their side and their guy and i mean hey it's a free market i love the

00:26:15.560 first amendment it gives us the ability for you to have your opinion have your opinion me to have

00:26:19.420 mine and jake tapper and steve miller to have theirs as well uh i think that i personally would love it

00:26:24.420 there's very few journalists out there that i actually think are unbiased everyone of course has

00:26:28.360 biases and certain networks show that in different ways i think that there is a part of the audience

00:26:33.720 that would like unbiased reporting but even when jake tapper has done unbiased reporting when it comes to

00:26:39.700 the trump white house even when jake tapper hit hillary clinton in 2016 during the campaign it

00:26:44.220 still wasn't enough for some people and i don't know that any of these people can win in any way

00:26:49.220 that's a very good point the decay of jake tapper in some ways i don't even really blame him for

00:26:54.060 it's sort of a decay of political journalism and he's a big leading figure and he's gone where his

00:26:59.760 bosses probably wanted him to go but still to quote a great man sad ariel is steven miller a good

00:27:06.980 public face for this administration we were talking about a very intelligent robot who

00:27:11.660 came in and kept just was uh guns a blazing against jake tapper should they keep sending him out as a

00:27:18.440 public flack well it's interesting because when he did that press conference on immigration i actually

00:27:23.620 think he did a phenomenal job i think he did a great job of addressing um acosta's advances in a lot

00:27:29.840 of ways and i think he ended up coming out of that as sort of the hero against uh fake news media

00:27:35.620 now you know this interview i agree with alicia it was just it was bad on both sides um i think

00:27:43.000 steven miller's face he sort of looked disengaged from it for a majority of it um and i felt like

00:27:49.180 tapper just handled himself pretty unprofessionally and i was surprised because i usually have a higher

00:27:54.620 opinion of tapper especially when it comes to cnn in general um i think certainly i mean he's the

00:27:59.680 greatest journalist in the history of the world compared to his colleagues at cnn right of course

00:28:05.280 but i i think that this interview in particular i was pretty disappointed by both of them i would

00:28:10.160 be willing to give um steven miller another chance but i think that this interview kind of fell short

00:28:15.620 for me so i agree with alicia definitely he was just i mean i totally agree ariel i i had to watch

00:28:21.360 old footage of steven miller because i know he's capable of being better on television and answering

00:28:25.920 direct questions i mean the jim acosta the jim acosta steve miller exchange of that press conference

00:28:31.080 that ariel just mentioned is peak miller doing a very good thing when he corrects acosta's quote

00:28:36.600 from the poem on the statue of liberty and then brings it back to his talking point he was just

00:28:41.480 all over the place here and if i had to be sitting down with him trying to get questions out of him

00:28:45.400 whether i agreed with his stance and in the white house's positioning on the bannon thing or not

00:28:51.080 i would have been annoyed after 12 and a half minutes of him yapping absolutely and as reynolds

00:28:56.420 reagan said if you're explaining you're losing i think that's what miller was thinking going into 1.00

00:29:01.060 this the mainstream media have been trying to set the agenda of public discourse around some stupid 0.98

00:29:06.900 and irrelevant meeting that may or may not have taken place or may or may not have included certain 0.98

00:29:11.780 figures from the campaign with some russian lawyer who i guess was sent there to disrupt things and

00:29:16.420 blah blah blah blah blah blah and they want that to be the news cycle every single day steven miller went

00:29:20.900 in there and said absolutely not he's responding to allegations made in this tabloid book by michael

00:29:27.780 wolf and and also trump has just had a very public break from his former strategist steve bannon so

00:29:34.260 there are a lot of uh different narratives and a lot of different uh news agendas that are fighting for

00:29:39.940 primacy here i i do agree he steven miller has come off better in other venues but again he was going

00:29:45.780 in their guns blazing on the central question of the book itself ariel is this book the fire and fury

00:29:53.300 by michael wolf is it worth reading have you read it alicia have you read it no just excerpts so you

00:30:00.020 wouldn't recommend it you don't think you think it's just probably mostly here's a tabloid trash i mean

00:30:04.900 it's hearsay and if you want to talk about media bias talk about nbc's katie turr talking to wolf earlier

00:30:09.700 and she ended the interview by telling him congratulations on your book being a bestseller and congratulations on

00:30:15.140 perturbing the president i mean that's almost a direct quote i mean i mean to his credit at least

00:30:19.940 jake tapper went after one of his colleagues um the host of reliable sources over the weekend

00:30:25.060 because he said you know let's let's take this what it is having you know some of these things

00:30:29.620 being true and feeling like it kind of sounds like things we've heard out of the white house

00:30:33.860 isn't actually factual information and and i think that i mean i've had friends bethany mendel who's been

00:30:38.820 a guest on on your show she and her husband read it over the weekend and she said it reads like a

00:30:43.540 gossiping novel yeah and and i mean if we're really going on the words of steve bannon who

00:30:48.260 we know to be a fantastic liar then i would say 99.9 of the book is false plus michael wolf admits in

00:30:55.940 the preface i too haven't wasted my money on this i know a lot of people on the right haven't done it

00:31:02.180 sebastian gorka has a great piece today out where he says i'm not going to spend anything but i will

00:31:06.740 read the excerpts that are already out in the beginning of the book the author michael wolf says i can't

00:31:11.540 really defend any of this as being true or any of the facts being true but they are notionally true

00:31:18.100 no i'm not quite sure that is the best euphemism of 2018 we've already got our there was fake news

00:31:23.460 there were alternative facts now we have notionally true which i think just means not true i think you

00:31:28.740 can take the unily out of it and this is not true so i i won't read it either uh the excerpts you know

00:31:34.580 they're scintillating i sometimes read magazines from the grocery store and but those are a little bit

00:31:39.220 cheaper than this this work of fiction okay we have a lot more to talk about we we have beyond

00:31:44.180 gossip to talk about now uh but unfortunately folks if you are on facebook and youtube i have to say

00:31:49.780 goodbye to you right now if you're on the dailywire.com thank you so much you keep the lights on

00:31:54.100 you keep covfefe in my cup it's a really good way to start the year what do you get it's ten dollars a

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00:32:04.740 ben shapiro show you get to watch a conversation and ask questions hosted by our very own alicia

00:32:09.220 kraus with me and ben and drew and yeah it's okay it's all great it's going away folks not the leftist

00:32:15.700 tears aren't going away the leftist tears are going to be pouring and pouring and pouring this is a nice

00:32:20.180 tapper vintage i had some some of my panel today might disagree but i've been lapping them up all weekend

00:32:26.020 and especially after the golden globes there were floods in my own city right now of los angeles

00:32:31.940 but the leftist tears tumblr is going away you will not know the time or the hour when it disappears

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00:32:45.940 two hundred thousand salvadorans stand to be deported from the united states they were brought

00:33:01.780 here in 2001 under a program called temporary protected status after an earthquake in their

00:33:09.220 country now two hundred thousand of them stand to be uh deported alicia is this a good idea bad

00:33:15.940 idea is this a good priority for the administration to stand firm on immigration or is it going to be

00:33:20.340 a pr nightmare i think it's already a pr nightmare because you just fell into the msm trap there and read

00:33:25.620 the headline what it is though is that those two hundred thousand people do have an opportunity to

00:33:30.340 change their immigration status and update their paperwork and then they have the they can stay here 0.99

00:33:35.140 in addition to that i believe it was actually two awful earthquakes that were back back to back in

00:33:39.780 2001 and it was a deal that the el salvadorian government made with the united states government

00:33:45.060 that let kind of like a refugee status for these two hundred thousand el salvadorians to be here

00:33:50.260 it's been 15 years i mean that is that is a long time i mean if there's a long time to work out your

00:33:55.300 immigration that is a long time to work out your immigration status that is a long time to get a job

00:33:59.220 to get a home to acclimate to american society so i would think that these people would be willing and want

00:34:04.900 to do whatever it would take to stay here and i think in the long run this will end up dwindling

00:34:09.140 off i think it's going to look bad on the white house just the way that the media covers it but

00:34:13.460 i guarantee you it will be end up being a very small percentage of those 200 000 that end up getting

00:34:18.420 deported well this is the issue because the headline is 200 000 people get deported now the secondary

00:34:23.780 thought is huh they've had had a long time to figure out their status in the united states haven't

00:34:28.500 they they probably still have a little bit of time yeah nevertheless that will never be reported

00:34:33.300 honestly and there were these two big pillars of the conservative movement for years and years

00:34:38.980 there was one that was strong on immigration and we need to secure the border and jobs here and

00:34:43.940 stop importing democrats who are going to make us lose elections the other was open borders and there

00:34:50.020 was a big wing of the party that wanted more trade more open borders the more libertarian strain

00:34:55.220 ariel does that still exist in the conservative coalition or are we now firmly a stop importing

00:35:02.180 democrats to make us lose elections party well i think there's you know if the conservative party

00:35:08.340 in terms of immigration sort of waffles and i think it depends if you tend to lean more on the

00:35:12.900 neoconservative side or whether you're more of a ted cruz conservative i think that's where i usually

00:35:17.700 mentally draw the line when it comes to immigration um you know ted cruz tends to be a pretty strong

00:35:22.980 immigration hawk and then you have other parts of the party that um tend to be a little bit more

00:35:28.020 favorable towards um coming up with a solution um that might may or may not involve amnesty

00:35:35.460 for illegal immigrants that are already residing in the united states so i think when it comes to

00:35:39.860 addressing immigration i think definitely the conservatives are probably more strict on the

00:35:44.500 border but when it comes to the variety or the disparity of opinions within the conservative party we

00:35:50.180 definitely have uh an entire spectrum i will say though with the advent of trump assuming the presidency i

00:35:56.980 definitely think i've seen appreciatively a more rightward shift on immigration and being a little

00:36:02.260 bit more um hawkish on it and i i'm i tend to fall more in that camp so i was i'm glad to see trump be

00:36:08.900 more firm in that stance but you know up until that point i think the conservative party has been pretty

00:36:13.780 lukewarm on immigration and definitely not as hawkish as they sort of um put themselves forward to be

00:36:19.700 what's ironic you just you bring in a lifelong democrat from queen's reality tv star and you're

00:36:26.580 absolutely right he has made the republican party and the conservative coalition more conservative

00:36:32.100 he's moved us to the right i think that's just the whimsy of god okay we have to move on because we

00:36:37.460 need to talk about our next uh reality tv star president are you with her ladies oprah 2020 are you

00:36:44.180 with her she gave a rousing speech last night at the golden globes and during which she pretended

00:36:49.860 that she hadn't been friends with rapists like harvey weinstein for decades that she and myriad other

00:36:54.580 hollywood elites haven't covered up the heinous crimes of gomorrah by the sea hollywood california

00:36:59.700 many are now speculating she will run for president she is worshipped like a cult figure by the way coast

00:37:05.060 to coast alicia is oprah the next president of the united states only if the rock does not run against her 0.78

00:37:12.180 which i am team rock 2020 or 2024 i don't know whatever i will vote for the republican i think

00:37:18.580 over oprah winfrey you know i don't i i'm like about the person not the party but if he comes out

00:37:23.540 and he's like as small government and charming as i think he is then i'm all about the rock

00:37:28.260 matt walsh actually has a great uh op-ed of course up on the daily wire right now that brought up the

00:37:32.980 points that you just said you know oprah winfrey has been palling around in bffs with harvey weinstein for

00:37:37.540 years and you have to wonder when the when she has made billions being the pulse of american 0.99

00:37:43.220 culture and entertainment and even politics i mean look at what she did for barack obama

00:37:47.460 during the primary against hillary clinton back in 2008 that you know rocketed him to fame and really

00:37:52.820 gave him a huge boost when he was running against hillary clinton and people were like who is this guy

00:37:57.540 she gave him a platform you don't think that she knew you don't think that she heard rumors you don't

00:38:02.020 think that she had any idea about stuff that was happening behind the scenes in the entertainment 0.94

00:38:06.660 industry i don't buy it absolutely right and she has a lot of other baggage too so she's worshiped

00:38:11.940 like a cult figure she's beloved in some ways very often the next president is the antithesis of his

00:38:18.660 predecessor so you had you know george w bush comes in after clinton and uh you know clinton was an

00:38:24.660 unsavory undignified sexual creep and george w bush is going to restore dignity to the white house 0.95

00:38:30.100 born-again christian clinton was this young liberal whippersnapper in reaction to the old stodgy 0.71

00:38:36.580 republican george hw bush then obviously we had barack obama a totally uh uh new generation

00:38:44.740 basically a younger man he's a first black president he's much uh more articulate than george w bush george

00:38:53.780 w bush could very frequently not put two sentences together barack obama gives rousing beautiful

00:38:58.980 speeches he has a wonderful way with words in his books then we have donald trump an antithesis to

00:39:03.860 barack obama uh oprah winfrey has that on the on the surface donald trump is a villainous figure he's 0.95

00:39:10.420 always angry and firing people oprah is hugging people and giving away cars he's an old white man 0.81

00:39:16.180 she's an old black woman uh they're both reality tv they're both cultural figures she's got this weird 1.00

00:39:23.140 romantic life where she's got i guess sort of a girlfriend and sort of a fake husband and i've

00:39:27.860 never really looked too far into this but it is a little strange allegedly everything's alleged

00:39:32.820 everything's alleged but it's all pretty weird with all of that we don't know a ton about oprah's

00:39:37.780 personal life we do know she worked herself up from nothing now she's one of the most powerful people 1.00

00:39:41.620 in the world could she beat trump ariel me okay um you know i i don't know i think she actually might

00:39:52.500 would have a good chance the only thing i will say is if the economy keeps performing the way it is

00:39:56.980 performing that will be a definitive boom for trump in 2020 um but i think when it comes to oprah's uh

00:40:05.060 you know curbside appeal i think you're you hit the nail on the head she has the perfect personality 1.00

00:40:09.220 for it when it comes to you know policy expertise trump's going to be coming into this race with four

00:40:14.420 years of a presidency under his belt or three years and so he's going to be able to bring that to the

00:40:19.060 table so all you know it's going to be funny there are plenty of commentators who made this point

00:40:23.700 uh yesterday evening where they said it's going to be really interesting to watch i think ben shapiro

00:40:27.940 said this really interesting to watch the media do a total 180 on the necessity of um

00:40:32.740 public policy they're already doing it because so runs and that's it you know people are going to be

00:40:37.300 they're going to be ready to get behind her and the funny thing will be is trump will actually be

00:40:40.980 more experienced than oprah by the time uh she's actually done so that's going to be a very funny

00:40:46.740 conundrum and you know given um trump's performance when it comes to the war on isis

00:40:52.420 when it comes to the economy those are all going to be big wins for trump um tax reform so he'll be

00:40:56.900 able to bring those to the table so you know there are a lot of people who say this would be a slam

00:41:00.340 dunk for oprah and i i don't know i i question that a bit just because trump's going to be bringing

00:41:04.820 you know he's you know if all goes well he's going to be bringing a pretty strong three years to the

00:41:09.620 table but oprah he could offer us all of that in the great economy and foreign policy seriousness but oprah

00:41:15.620 could give us a free car and this is bread and circuses folks 2018 decadent culture bread and

00:41:20.900 circuses so last question we only have a couple minutes left we've got to talk about our stable

00:41:26.020 genius president we have to talk about that stable genius donald trump so his response to all of the

00:41:31.860 basically baseless accusations in michael wolf's tabloid fire and fury uh he has responded and said 0.56

00:41:37.620 that he is quote like very smart and that he is a very stable genius he's not an unstable idiot

00:41:45.540 which they say about every republican president they do this about all of them either they're 1.00

00:41:49.220 evil or idiots and then in retrospect they stop being idiots but they say it about every single 1.00

00:41:53.460 one and they pretend that every democrat president is a genius so trump idiot bush idiot bush senior 1.00

00:41:59.620 incompetent ronald reagan idiot gerald ford idiot gerald ford the most athletic president they portrayed 1.00

00:42:05.300 him as stumbling all over his own feet but the the democrats bill clinton oh what a genius even 1.00

00:42:10.420 jimmy carter utterly factless president well he's he's a physicist he's an engineer he's a genius right

00:42:14.820 you see this again and again barack obama genius we have no evidence of that but that's what they say

00:42:20.340 uh with all of that donald trump is the first president to smack back and say nope i'm a very

00:42:25.460 stable genius two questions you can give both of your answers alicia is he a very stable genius

00:42:31.300 and was that response a good one um no to the first question and secondly if donald trump hadn't been so

00:42:39.620 open and honest about how he does not drink alcohol and why he does not drink alcohol i would

00:42:44.740 have thought that he was drunk tweeting so he's he's not only he's uh not a very stable genius he has

00:42:51.940 shaky hands no alcohol absolutely right uh ariel is he a stable genius and was it a good idea

00:42:57.940 uh my mom always says to me if you have to say it it's less likely that it's true

00:43:03.860 so if someone has to tell you they're a stable genius then chances are you know it's less likely

00:43:09.700 that that's the case um so i'll leave it at that but we're talking about politics do you remember

00:43:14.660 bill clinton first of all politicians have to repeat things ad nauseam that's all they do they

00:43:19.140 memorize like six lines and they smack you over the head with them bill clinton in that in his

00:43:24.100 re-election campaign he said we got to build a bridge to the 21st century bridge to the 21st century

00:43:28.660 i was like six years old at the time i can't get that out of my head it's still

00:43:32.260 ringing around my head he said it so many times in this case scott adams the dilbert guy had an

00:43:38.740 immediate reaction he said what donald trump is going to do with his weird diction his weird word

00:43:44.180 choice and crazy behavior unstable behavior he's going to make all of his own critics

00:43:50.740 tie his name to the word on to the word stable genius for the next two weeks yeah has he done that

00:43:58.180 that i think he has yeah i think that i mean he's a genius he's a stable genius all these words he's

00:44:06.260 invented so many because he's a great brand marketer so he's attached words to all of his opponents but

00:44:11.620 even covfefe he just made that word up whole cloth that's like the thesis of my show i'm going to write

00:44:16.740 my my political dissertation on the word covfefe will it be blank man i already wrote my political

00:44:22.100 dissertation very good point ladies so good to have you we have alicia krauss from the daily wire

00:44:27.940 ariel davidson from the federalist well that was so nice we had that awe just so much jake tapper

00:44:33.060 and natalie portman i was like ah wah wah wah and then those ladies came in and made me feel so much 1.00

00:44:37.460 better that is our show today come back tomorrow we're going to do it all again i am michael knowles

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The Michael Knowles Show - January 08, 2018

Ep. 83 - Terrible Performances, Oprah To Jake Tapper

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