Ep. 850 - Biden Cracks Down on Law & Order
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The countless thousands of Haitians pouring across our southern border have divided Americans. Conservatives argue that nations need borders, and we cannot tolerate a flood of foreign nationals violating our most basic laws. Leftists argue that we owe it to the people of Haiti to take them in.
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The countless thousands of Haitians pouring across our southern border have divided Americans.
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Conservatives argue that nations need borders and we cannot tolerate a flood of foreign nationals
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Leftists argue that we owe it to the people of Haiti to take them in.
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As many as want to come should be allowed to come
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and border patrols should not lift a finger to stop them.
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Up until now, President Joe Biden has remained quiet on the issue.
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But at long last, we finally have video of President Biden's view of Haitians
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and their island nation as it pertains to the national interest of the United States.
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If Haiti, a god awful thing to say, if Haiti just quietly sunk into the Caribbean or rose up 300 feet,
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it wouldn't matter a whole lot in terms of our interest.
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Now, in fairness, Joe Biden said that back in 1994,
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back when people still had at least the semblance of a sliver of common sense.
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Today, the Biden administration is attacking its own border patrol agents
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So is it any surprise that Americans fed up with the lawlessness
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are beginning to take the law into their own hands?
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I saw my favorite comment yesterday from Thor Darson, who says,
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if the Democrats are able to enact their global vision,
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we will have an embassy in every country that flies Hunter Biden's paintings just below the pride flag.
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That comment is actually even more profound than the commenter probably knew.
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The symbol of American imperial hegemony these days is just the gay pride flag.
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And we're going to raise it all over the place.
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But this is not because of some coherent moral philosophy that is being pushed by the liberal imperialists.
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What the left is doing is appealing to our most base passions and our appetites,
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They're appealing to all of that to entrench their power for this oligarchy
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that is basically just enriching themselves by selling Hunter Biden's stupid finger painting for half a million dollars.
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The crisis at the border is supposed to play well for Democrats.
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The poor, oppressed, insert whatever foreign nation in the world is pouring over our border.
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And that's why we've got to let them into our terrible country.
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And we're the only nation on earth that shouldn't have borders.
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And I think the American people are sick of that.
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And so the main way that the left tries to gin up this kind of division is through race hustling.
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And in this case, because it's a bunch of Haitians pouring over the border.
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You know, I know that the Biden administration, Jen Psaki, is saying that they don't plan to
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And yeah, the Haitians just made it all the way over to Mexico.
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And then they're running across the border just for a long weekend away or something.
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But because they're Haitian, now you have an added element of Black Lives Matter, right?
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And so obviously the only reason to keep foreigners out of our country is because they're black.
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So Al Sharpton, the race hustler par excellence left in our country, flies down to the border and he,
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and he starts to give one of his stupid race hustling lectures.
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But he's not as well received down there in Texas as he often is.
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Actually, he gets heckled while giving his extremely dumb remarks.
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Why are you trying to come and propose for violence?
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Nobody wants to hear your racist nonsense in Del Rio.
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You know, I didn't expect to hear such common sense remarks in that speech.
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I mean, he's been a hustler and a pimp his entire career.
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He launched his career on a rape hoax, the Tawana Brawley hoax.
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Virtually everything else the guy's been involved in is a hoax.
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And it's just a shakedown so that anytime he can claim some sort of racial offense,
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he can shake down corporations and local communities and enrich himself.
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Frankly, I had a greater deal of respect for Al Sharpton back when he was a big fat guy
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wearing those expensive pinstriped suits, just walking around New York,
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shaking people down like the mobster that he is.
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Now that he looks like a shriveled up little raisin and he's wearing his kind of more,
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you know, put together higher, higher class, more muted, you know,
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little vest and his little, his little nice shirt.
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And I don't think the American people are really buying it either.
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But the problem is, the problem is the libs still have all the power and we don't really
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If you look at public opinion polls, the immigration crisis at the border is a disaster
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for Joe Biden's poll numbers, but they're not going to change course because they have
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She was asked about that complete non-traversy, that fiction, that border patrol agents were
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using whips against Haitian illegal aliens who were pouring across.
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They were holding reins so they could ride their horses.
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And based on this lie, Jen Psaki is now saying, yeah, we're going to punish the border patrol.
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What he has asked all of us to convey clearly to people who are understandably have questions,
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are passionate, are concerned, as we are about the images that we have seen, is one, we feel
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There is an investigation the president certainly supports, overseen by the Department of Homeland
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Security, which he has conveyed will happen quickly.
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I can also convey to you that the secretary also conveyed to civil rights leaders earlier
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this morning that we would no longer be using horses in Del Rio.
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So that is something, a policy change that has been made in response.
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But separately, all related, it's also important for people to understand what our process and
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our immigration process is and what the steps are that are taken.
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The images we saw were horrible and horrific because a lot of the criminal migrants were
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What was horrible is not that law enforcement was attempting to enforce the law.
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What was horrible is that they weren't doing it very effectively because the politicians,
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notably people in the White House, were tying their arms behind their backs.
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Now, the White House is saying no more can Border Patrol use horseback in this area.
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They can't, in certain areas, they can't take a Humvee.
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So what are they going to, they can ride on horseback, but now they're not allowed to
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What incompetence, some people say from the Biden administration.
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It's amazing to me that some Republicans still say this is incompetence.
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But if you get rid of horseback, then they won't be able to enforce the law.
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It's good for the national integrity of our country, but it's bad for Democrats because
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then Democrats can't flood the country with future voters.
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Statistically, illegal aliens are overwhelmingly likely to identify with Democrats with the
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They can probably vote in the next election, but even if they can't, because of our understanding
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of birthright citizenship, the idea that if you are a foreigner who comes here and has
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a kid, the kid automatically gets citizenship, then they're certainly going to get a lot
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And with the mass amnesty that the Democrats keep trying to cram through, they'll probably
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So they've got the power and they're going to do it.
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I wonder when AOC is going to go down to the border and start crying like she did under
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She wasn't actually crying in front of kids in cages.
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She was crying in front of a parking lot in that white suit and she pretended to cry.
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And it was not exactly a Marlon Brando kind of performance, but it got the message across.
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She's not going to do that because now it's the Biden administration which is enforcing
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She's crying because she was not able to stop the Congress from giving a billion dollars
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to Israel to fund their missile defense system.
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You can see video of her on the floor of the house just sobbing.
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Oh no, the Jews are going to be able to protect themselves.
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No, those Jews are going to have defensive weaponry.
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No, now the Muslim terrorists in the Palestinian territories can't shoot at them.
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First of all, hysterical people should not be in public life.
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If this woman can't keep her emotions together while she's on the floor of the Congress,
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I understand she might get reelected, but it's bad.
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But it's also worth pointing out why she is crying.
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She's crying because we're paying for Israel's defensive missiles.
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I'm not making a point on either of those things right now.
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She's crying that Israel can defend itself because she and her ilk view Israel as an extension
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They view the modern nation state of Israel as an expansion of Western imperialism in the
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Middle East as a symbol of Western civilization, which they hate, which they want to subvert.
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So regardless of your views on modern nation state of Israel, regardless of your views on
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us giving foreign aid willy-nilly all over the place, don't get confused here.
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The reason that AOC hates Israel is because she hates you and because she hates this civilization
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The defining feature of the left, of the libs, the kind of liberal rule more broadly, is that
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it wants to tear down that which distinguishes the West.
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Hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go, as Jesse Jackson said while he marched through
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Tear down the things that distinguish us and set us apart from the rest of the world.
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You're seeing this right now in a specific way in Michigan.
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The Attorney General of Michigan, Dana Nessel, is very upset about the pro-life law in Texas.
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And there's actually some really good news on that from around the country, which we'll
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But she says, quote, adultery is a felony in Michigan.
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The prohibition was passed the same year as Michigan's abortion ban.
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Do those who support the Texas abortion law also support granting standing to private citizens
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What, do you think that adultery should be a crime too?
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I mean, I don't think that adultery, I don't think that cheating on your wife and killing
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I think one of those things is graver than the other.
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And I don't think that we should really encourage either of them.
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And yeah, they both were illegal for a very long time for most of our civilization's history.
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This, this is just like when the libs, when the Texas abortion law came out and the libs
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Rachel Maddow made this point, my doppelganger.
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She said, well, you know, if we're not going to allow legal abortion, then we should hold
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the men responsible for staying with their children.
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You're coming around, Michigan attorney general.
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At its most basic level, all polities, all political communities attempt to pursue good
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Well, by protecting certain liberties here, by protecting the integrity of these institutions,
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or by keeping some power separate in this government, the local government versus the,
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but what we are trying to do, and it's just the most simple level, do good, avoid evil.
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Politicians are really misunderstanding this political moment.
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A woman on the New York City subway showed the political moment.
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A ton of really gross dating app ads where it's people, like, licking each other's mouths
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And in some cases, like, they got people propped up on countertops and little things.
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So this woman sees them and just starts ripping them down.
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For kids to be looking at this gross stuff on the subway?
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You're normalizing all these kind of sick, weird gender stuff.
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The TV told them not to get upset and wear the mask.
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I also love that just very few people are wearing masks on the subway.
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Like, some people are, but a lot of people are not.
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When I was there, I didn't wear the mask on the subway.
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It's like someone with their finger going through an apple, obviously, simulating some
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People with their tongues in each other's mouths.
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Living in a society where anyone can put any kind of gross, obscene, weird porn stuff all
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over the subways for everyone to see, including little kids, or is the free community the one
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that can band together and say, no, we don't want this crap on our subways, and we don't
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want to allow sick, degenerate corporations to enrich themselves by rousing up all our basest
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You can kind of see an argument either way, right?
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So, I think the people who are missing the moment, the libs, and to some degree, the libertarians,
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the ones who say, like, you know, the greatest freedom is to just look at porn everywhere, right?
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I think those guys are misunderstanding where people are.
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I think most of the American people, especially younger Americans, are with that woman saying,
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we don't want this filth, we don't want this degeneracy everywhere, okay?
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It's not good for us personally, it's not good for our political community, it's not good
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You know, this gets to a debate that we had on the last episode of Backstage, okay?
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Nancy Pelosi was just asked, as a Catholic, allegedly, to defend her views on abortion.
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Catholic Church says, you can't have abortions, you can't encourage abortions if you're a politician,
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She says, well, I have a difference of opinion with the Catholic Church on that.
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And she makes a ridiculous moral argument for why that's the case.
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I come from a pro-life family, not active in that regard, different in their view of
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In my right to choose, I have five children, six years in one week, and I keep saying to
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people who say things like that, when you have five children in six days, six years in
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one day, we can talk about what businesses of any of us tell anyone else to do.
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For us, it was a complete and total blessing, which we enjoy every day of our lives, but
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it's none of our business how other people choose the size and timing of their families.
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My, the, my, the Archbishop of the city, that area of San Francisco, and I have a disagreement
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I believe that God has given us a free will to honor our responsibilities.
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We need to have legal abortion because God gives us free will.
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It's unchristian to prevent people from exercising their free will.
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For me, I would never kill any of my precious children, but poor people and disproportionately
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But you think that it should be legal to do wrong things.
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God gives us free will and it is therefore unchristian to outlaw things that are manifestly
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This gets to a debate that we had on the last episode of Backstage, actually.
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There were the kind of the more traditional concern, you know, it was me, Matt, to some
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degree, I think Drew were saying, no, you should not be able to do that kind of stuff.
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And then Ben and Jeremy were making the point that you should have the right to sin.
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Now, I think we would all agree abortion should not be legal, okay?
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So we would all agree on that point, but, and I think we would all agree, but Nancy Pelosi
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might not agree, that a theft should be illegal.
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Hey, Nancy, God gave you free will, so should you have the ability to go steal something?
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It's wrong, you shouldn't do it, but should you have the, you have the right to do it,
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you have the freedom to do it, you just need to choose not to do it, right?
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Well, God gave me free will, so murder should be legal.
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I don't think we should commit murders, but murder should be legal.
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Well, no, everyone should choose for themselves if they want to commit murder, if they want
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But then I think where the divide might be is, you say, okay, look, you don't have the
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right to commit a sin that harms someone else, but you do have the right to commit a sin that
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Now, first of all, there is no sin that doesn't harm anyone else.
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It has, we all live in a society, it has effects on the world, but the most private sorts
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In American history, I mean, it's completely anti-historical, ahistorical to say that, you
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know, it's deeply American to have the right to harm yourself, to commit a private personal
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We've had laws against drugs, we've had laws against certain sexual behaviors, we've had
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all sorts of laws that prevent you from doing that.
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But now, the more libertarian argument is, you should be allowed to overdose on drugs if
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you want, you should be allowed to do whatever you want with your body, as long as it doesn't
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And the conservative argument is, no, you shouldn't.
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What it comes down to is this question, do you have the right to sin?
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It would seem to me that error has no rights, okay?
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You don't have the right to commit theft, you don't have the right to commit murder, you
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don't have the right to kill your baby, you don't, at least for now, have the right
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to do a bunch of illegal drugs, you don't have the right to mutilate yourself, you don't
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There are just certain moral realities that you cannot transgress, okay?
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This notion of radical individual autonomy, I can do whatever I want, just don't tell me
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We got some really good news right now out of Florida.
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And I was hoping that this would happen, but now it seems to have happened.
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I asked some of the people who were involved in drafting the Texas Pro-Life Law,
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will this Texas Pro-Life Law be replicated in other states or is it just peculiar to Texas?
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And the legislator who drafted the law and came up with it said it can be replicated in
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Florida Republican state lawmaker on Wednesday introduced a bill that is modeled after a strict
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Texas law prohibiting abortions after six weeks, that wonderful Pro-Life Law.
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It's by Representative Webster Barnaby, and it does the same thing.
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You can sue people if they're committing abortions, if they're involved in abortions.
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And it ties in with this broader theme we've been talking about.
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Where is the future of the right and where is the future of the country?
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For a great many decades, the right could only agree on one thing in particular, maximize
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I think we have seen that that is insufficient.
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I think that having lost our institutions, having lost the definition of marriage, having lost the
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nature of sex itself, having lost education, having lost everything other than occasional
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tax cuts, I think we've realized that vision is insufficient because all societies need to
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All societies need to value certain things and oppose other things.
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And if we're not going to offer a vision of what we think the good is, then the only
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And then the left, because nature abhors a vacuum, is going to take over.
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I think all the other states with Republican governors and legislatures need to go on the
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That's going to be difficult for some squishy Republicans who even, some squishy Republicans,
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even on the issue of abortion, say, well, I don't know.
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Can't we, ugh, can't we just avoid the culture wars?
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Let's just talk about, you know, bumping up GDP a little bit.
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Can we, can we, let's just talk about tweaking the healthcare system.
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Let's talk about the kind of society we want to live in.
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Do you want to live in an angry, crazy, senseless society that's just saturated in filth?
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Or do you want to live in a society that's not perfect, it's never going to be perfect,
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this is a fallen world, but it's just a little bit nicer, where, where things are a little
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more stable, where the family's a little more stable, where our local communities are a little
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more stable, where you, you can take your kid onto the subway without seeing creepy, you
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But one of the big holdups to getting back to a normal society is that the liberal establishment
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They've taken a ton of power away from you, and they've done it through our COVID regime.
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As long as the emergency of COVID lasts, then these rulers can rule however they wish, with
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15 days to slow the spread is now well over a year and a half.
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Now, this is probably going to be censored, but I'll say it anyway.
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The creator of the AstraZeneca vaccine, a very, very important scientist, Professor Dame Sarah
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Gilbert, has just come out and said that eventually, COVID will just be a cold.
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Some of us have been saying that for most people, it is a cold already.
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For some people, it's very serious, but for most people, it's just kind of like a cold.
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But she says, eventually, it's just going to be a cold for everyone.
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She says, quote, we already live with four different human coronaviruses that we don't
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And eventually, SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, the Wu flu, will become one of those.
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It's just a question of how long it's going to take to get there and what measures we're
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going to have to take to manage it in the meantime.
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Because, quote, viruses become less virulent as they circulate more easily, and there's
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no reason to think that we will have a more virulent version of COVID-19.
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We tend to see slow genetic drift of the virus, and there will be gradual immunity developing
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in the population as there is to all the other seasonal coronaviruses.
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One of the vaccine manufacturers, I forget which one.
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Says, you know, I think COVID, I think these difficult COVID measures are going to go on
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You people who are most profiting from coronavirus, you think it's going to, other than Amazon,
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who's profiting the most, you think it's going to go on another year.
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I bet in a year you're going to hear, oh, it's going to go on another year, another two
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This stuff is not going away until we tell it to, until we make it go away.
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You know, Leanna Nguyen, who's the former president of Planned Parenthood, she now goes
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on CNN all of the time, and she talks about her health advice.
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She says we are nowhere near allowing kids to lose masks in schools.
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I agree that masks are a very powerful layer of protection, but it's one layer.
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And if we have so many other layers that are present, masking may be one that could go
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But I would say that, let's say a school where it is, or a particular class, everybody is
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And also the level of community transmission is declining.
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I could imagine that situation being where we remove masks because we have all these other
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Or if we have rapid testing, imagine if every child and teacher were tested every morning
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You can imagine that situation, even if there's high levels of community spread, that maybe you
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And I think what we really need to do is get the vaccines authorized for children as soon
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And also really ramp up testing, because that is a powerful tool that we're just not using
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We're just, we're nowhere near where we need to be to let little kids take off the masks,
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even though kids statistically face virtually no risk.
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Very, very, very, very little risk from the coronavirus.
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And then the people who are vaccinated, we are also told face very, very little risk from
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So you can't worry that the kids are just going to spread it to the vulnerable people because
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the vulnerable people already have the vaccine, unless the libs are lying about something
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But you could see a world, you can see a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Just allow us to keep power for a little while longer.
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Leanna Nguyen is a curious figure because she's talking about the health of children.
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And she, of course, is best known for running an organization that kills hundreds of thousands
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of children a year, that their job is to kill little babies.
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But Leanna Nguyen was also pushed out because she wanted to de-emphasize abortion at Planned
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She wanted to at least have a little cover at Planned Parenthood to say, no, that's not
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They said, no, that is, that is all that we do.
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I think she's a good representative of the quote unquote moderate liberal view.
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But I think that if you look at what Leanna Nguyen is saying here, that is the voice of
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Yes, there's a world in which we can almost go back to normal, even though we're still
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going to have the power to do whatever we want.
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How much longer are we supposed to wait before we all start taking down signs in the subway
00:34:03.840
You know, systemic corruption infects our institutions and all of the elites blame you.
00:34:10.020
Well, Drew is going to talk about that today on the Andrew Klavan show.
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Also subscribe and listen to Morning Wire on Apple, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts
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If you like what you hear, we'll be right back with The Mailbag.
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Michael, I started dating my girlfriend a couple weeks ago.
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However, I have had strong feelings for another girl who has expressed that she wants to be
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with me, but doesn't want to be in a relationship.
00:34:56.240
The situation is rather difficult as we see each other very often and the chemistry is
00:35:01.020
I want to be with this girl, but I would rather be in a serious relationship rather than just
00:35:07.820
So you're telling me, so you got this girlfriend who seems nice enough and then there's this
00:35:14.320
other girl who you've got the hots for and she's got the hots for you, but she doesn't
00:35:18.820
want to be in a relationship with you because she's got the hots for other guys too.
00:35:22.320
And so what you want to do is dump your good girlfriend to go hang out with this strumpet
00:35:26.760
so you can have casual sex on those happy occasions when she's not having casual sex with
00:35:37.380
Gosh, it's been a while, but I know, I know, I know.
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Young people think this way, but I hope that my describing the situation to you, my just
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repeating back to you what you have told me will let you see clearly.
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You should definitely not be with this strumpet.
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You maybe should not even be in a relationship with your girlfriend because it sounds like
00:36:03.660
You're just kind of settling for her or something like that.
00:36:07.380
I would recommend trying to work on a little bit of chastity.
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It's easier for an old man like me, an old married man with a kid to talk about this,
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But I think that it's quite clear that what would be better for you and for society is
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for you to be in the more kind of steady relationship with the girl who's not going to lead you astray.
00:36:34.700
So either do that and take that seriously and make a decision and work on that.
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You know, don't just take this, your girlfriend as a consolation prize if you're really not into her.
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And, you know, wait until someone that you do like comes along.
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But it reminds me of this joke that Drew Klavan talks about.
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The joke about the guy who walks into a bar with an orange for a head.
00:37:05.400
And the short version of it is the bartender says,
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All right, are you going to tell me how you got an orange for a head?
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He says, well, you know, I walked on the beach.
00:37:15.620
I said, okay, well, if you're really a genie, I want you to give me a million dollars.
00:37:19.800
Oh, my gosh, Publisher's Clearinghouse shows up a million dollar check.
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I go, okay, you know, I want to sleep with every playboy playmate, you know, of the last year.
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And here's the part that's, well, I asked to have an orange for a head.
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And some people really don't get that joke, but it's a joke about the perversity of mankind.
00:37:53.300
From Seth, dear Michael, I've been watching your show almost daily since I discovered it two years ago.
00:37:58.620
And have purchased speechless, controlling words, controlling minds.
00:38:02.920
I agree with you on probably everything but the death penalty.
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Do we sinners have the authority to condemn somebody to death?
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And as it does, if the death penalty also isn't as effective as a deterrent in life in prison,
00:38:20.280
then what argument is left to prefer the death penalty over mercy
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and giving ourselves every bit of time to try to convert these criminals?
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Okay, well, first of all, your hypothetical there is a big if.
00:38:34.120
I actually think the death penalty is a deterrent when it is implemented.
00:38:37.720
Right now, we don't really implement it all that much.
00:38:39.460
So when studies come out and say it's not really a deterring crime, well, right, we don't really implement it.
00:38:49.300
Now, you mentioned shouldn't we have time to convert the people who are on death row,
00:38:56.420
Well, you're getting to rehabilitation now, which is another reason.
00:39:00.540
It's another argument for the criminal justice system.
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But it seems to me that hanging concentrates the mind.
00:39:07.260
It seems to me you might have a far better chance of converting someone
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if he knows that he's on the brink of death, that he's facing the gallows.
00:39:14.480
So the rehabilitation aspect, I think, is already there.
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The point is neither deterrence nor rehabilitation primarily, but justice.
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Do I think that we lowly sinners have the right to kill people?
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No, but I think that, or in self-defense, I suppose we do, which is one argument for the death penalty.
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But rather than me or you, I think that the civil authority has the right for capital punishment.
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He who sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed.
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I think that if we have the right to throw people in prison for 70 years or 50 years,
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It seems to me you're taking justice to one of these, to this extreme of we should never pass any judgments whatsoever.
00:40:21.860
Or I don't think there's anything Christian or biblical or right or just about letting the cruel rape the earth.
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It can't be just vigilantism all over the place.
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But we have a criminal justice system in place.
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One of the arguments you'll hear is Catholics cannot support the death penalty.
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First of all, Catholics, many Catholics support the death penalty.
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As Pope Benedict says very well, there can be a legitimate disagreement about the implementation of the death penalty among Catholics.
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And in fact, many popes have carried out the death penalty.
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And blessed Pope Pius IX carried out a lot of executions in the papal states.
00:40:59.100
So that just seems to me very modern, a kind of modern liberal or libertarian argument that does not hold a lot of historical water.
00:41:08.360
From Michael, Master Knowles, I would like to know your opinion on the idea of putting a fleece before the Lord, referencing the story of Gideon in the Bible.
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I have a family member who often urges me to do this as a way to find direction from God.
00:41:20.300
However, it makes me feel as though I'm seeking God to be my personal genie rather than living by faith and wisdom of the Holy Spirit.
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The only time I feel biblically confident in testing God would be in finances.
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Putting a fleece before the Lord just feels icky to me.
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P.S. My wife is jealous of how much I admire you.
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So for those who don't know, putting a fleece before the Lord is basically asking for a sign.
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You know, Lord, I have to make this difficult decision.
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But don't forget that it is an evil generation that seeks for signs and wonders.
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My priest, Father George Rutler in New York, very wise man, points this out.
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He says it's an evil generation that seeks for signs and wonders.
00:42:06.120
But it is a stupid generation that ignores signs and wonders.
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Very often you will get some kind of, you will see some kind of symbol in the world.
00:42:16.900
You know, I was an atheist for a very long time.
00:42:18.900
Then I started to revert and I became intellectually convinced.
00:42:23.480
And then during the period where I really, my faith solidified, I was, it was a really wild time.
00:42:31.660
I mean, I was having what you would call religious experience that was happening quite a lot.
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And there were these sort of numinous events and symbols and maybe coincidences, you would say.
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But I really don't think there are many coincidences.
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What does it mean when you get a sign from the Lord?
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I try not to interpret these things and divine their special meaning and, you know, act like a sorcerer or a magician.
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To me, the meaning of the sign is that the Lord is there.
00:43:01.640
And the good Lord has endowed you with moral reasoning, judgment, conscience.
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And I think you should rely on that and not just, you know, try to read the tea leaves.
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I think I agree with your feeling that that generally is icky to put the Lord your God to the test.
00:43:17.960
My wife and I are about to have our first baby and we're looking to confirm that our baby's godparents need to be of the Catholic faith.
00:43:24.000
And good standing and confirmed is this accurate.
00:43:25.960
I've done some research and it seems that this is the case, but we heard from others that it's not necessary.
00:43:30.420
We will ask our priest on Sunday, but if you could address this before then, I don't want to leave him speechless.
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Yes, if you are Catholic and you're going to raise a kid Catholic, then the godparents need to be Catholic.
00:43:49.300
We will be getting married in about six months or according to Dr. Fauci, less than 15 days.
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Both of us are active churchgoers and strong believers in Christ.
00:43:56.480
We recently started marriage counseling with one of the ministers from the church my fiancé grew up in and we've been reading The Meaning of Marriage by Tim Keller together as well.
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Do you have any advice for us as we move through the rest of our engagement and into young married life that might help our marriage be successful and of strong faith?
00:44:11.820
My now fiancé is the one who turned me on to your show and we started dating.
00:44:17.260
Sounds like you found a very excellent man with sound judgment and good taste.
00:44:21.480
My fiancé and I are looking forward to any advice you might have to offer.
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Yes, I will give you the advice that actually ties in with the theme of this show.
00:44:33.220
Do we have the right to sort of pursue our own tastes and appetites everywhere?
00:44:37.220
This is advice that Drew Clavin gave me before I got married.
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I said, Drew, you've been happily married a long time.
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I'm going to clean that up because this is a family show.
00:44:49.580
Don't sleep with other people and you'll have a good wedding.
00:44:59.240
He said, you know, if you have to, go to bed angry.
00:45:01.500
If you go to bed angry, you're still married in the morning.
00:45:04.820
But if you make this thing, I won't go to bed angry and you just keep some argument going on and on
00:45:09.200
when you're all tired and angry and at your wits end, that's not going to be good either.
00:45:13.500
Now, these are both men who have been married longer than I have.
00:45:16.520
I have probably a bit more wisdom in that area than I do.
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Respect your, you know, wives submit to your husbands.
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I'm not sure which one is more difficult at certain times.
00:45:28.780
They're both calls to do things that we are not, through our broken nature, normally inclined to do.
00:45:33.380
And, you know, have respect for your spouse in all things.
00:45:41.760
I mean, you know, in the Drew advice, that means don't cheat on your spouse.
00:45:44.940
And in the sort of Jeremy advice, it is recognize you're in this thing.
00:45:53.720
Don't just always try to win every single point and every single argument.
00:45:56.720
I mean, you know, you'll grow together, ideally.
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And recognize that this other person is now part of you.
00:46:08.220
You know, when the good Lord says you're one flesh, I mean, that is a very profound image.
00:46:14.880
So you wouldn't want to abuse some part of yourself.
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And whether that's emotionally, physically, obviously, spiritually.
00:46:23.320
But I guess in our culture, we think that we do have a right to abuse ourselves.
00:46:27.180
We do think that we have a right to sin and error.
00:46:33.460
You know, the way that you treat your spouse and the way that you treat your own body are sort of the same thing.
00:46:43.080
I have been in many different conversations with my friends about the draft and the future of warfare.
00:46:46.780
All of them have told me that war will never be fought in the same manner, hand-to-hand, trench warfare, etc.
00:46:53.520
Because normal people cannot operate complicated equipment.
00:46:58.380
Has warfare changed forever with the advent of drones and nukes to the point of eliminating the draft?
00:47:04.020
Because physical combat is no longer necessary.
00:47:06.540
Well, if you're saying, if the premise is there's not going to be any draft anymore, then I guess women should not register because there's not going to be any draft.
00:47:14.360
But no, I think that the military is a very broad place.
00:47:19.280
There's lots of different jobs in the military, lots of supportive roles.
00:47:22.000
And so I don't think there's ever going to be a world in which our wars are fought by 10 people.
00:47:25.780
I think that the draft is still necessary because a nation has to defend itself.
00:47:30.260
And I don't think women should register for the draft.
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It does, this particular view of mine, it does not eliminate the biological constrictions of sex and nature.
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I think that we need to stand up for what is right.
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And we need to embrace and enforce such a vision.
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00:48:51.300
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00:48:57.640
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