The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 86 - Obama’s Virtual Library and Legacy

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00:00:43.500 According to an Obama aide, the presidential library will have a children's play garden, sledding hill,

00:00:48.680 green spaces for picnics and outdoor gatherings, basketball courts, and a recording studio.

00:00:52.580 What the library will not have are any books or documents.

00:00:55.260 Is there a more apt metaphor for the Obama presidency?

00:00:59.020 We will explain Barack Obama's empty library and legacy and then the mailbag.

00:01:03.460 I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:09.700 A lot to talk about today.

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00:04:06.540 There won't be any learning going on, by the way, at the Barack Obama Presidential Library because there aren't any books.

00:04:11.640 Martin Nesbitt, the chairman of the Obama Foundation, explained,

00:04:14.800 The Obama Presidential Center will be a global community center, a place of life and vibrancy that showcases the South Side to the world.

00:04:24.100 So there's a basketball, possibly a yoga room, test kitchen to teach visitors about the, quote, full production cycle of nutritious food.

00:04:30.980 There's a recording studio and auditorium, a sports facility, a 235-foot-tall tower for some reason, something, I don't know what they do in there,

00:04:39.700 $350 million to build 22 acres of land.

00:04:42.300 And the only thing it won't have are books or documents.

00:04:45.760 Now, I didn't realize how old I am.

00:04:48.160 It's a new year.

00:04:48.600 It's 2018 already.

00:04:50.360 I am so old that I actually remember when libraries contained books and documents.

00:04:55.600 Now, presumably, there will be computers at this library or iPads or something so they can at least Google some of the terrible things that Barack Obama did.

00:05:03.620 But if the lights go out, that means that the Obama Library will be identical to the Obama legacy.

00:05:10.480 And perhaps that's really the brilliant artistic engineering here, form and content in perfect harmony.

00:05:16.800 The Obama Library marks the decline of our politics and culture, just like the Obama administration showed the decline of our politics and culture.

00:05:23.840 Even the Chicago Tribune, Obama's hometown newspaper, not exactly a bastion of conservatism, ran a headline asking,

00:05:31.260 without archives on site, how will Obama Center benefit area students and scholars?

00:05:36.640 The foundation's CEO, David Simas, explained.

00:05:39.920 This is going to be completely different.

00:05:41.300 What the president and first lady said is they simply did not want a museum that served as a mausoleum, a way to look back.

00:05:48.620 This is typical Obama, typical Obama-ness, arrogant and ambitious enough to want constant change, constant activism,

00:05:57.540 turning presidential campaigns into a permanent campaign, fundamentally transforming America. 0.88

00:06:03.240 But it's completely ignorant of history, philosophy, culture, disdainful of the past, of the present, and of tradition itself.

00:06:10.700 Obama's papers, by the way, are currently stored in a private facility in the city and suburbs of, not Chicago, Washington, D.C.

00:06:17.940 They sent them all to Chicago, spent a lot of money doing it, and they said,

00:06:20.880 no, we actually don't want them at this fake library, so they go right back to D.C.

00:06:24.200 This gets perfectly to my theory of the left.

00:06:26.560 The left always wants the appearance of the thing, but without the essence of the thing,

00:06:31.540 like decaffeinated coffee, or they want hashtag activism. 0.97

00:06:35.120 So they'll wear lapel pins to the Golden Globes and dress in black, but they won't stop raping people. 0.98

00:06:39.880 Even their resistance movements are lazy and hollow. 0.91

00:06:43.100 Do you remember, they didn't march or protest or even really petition anything after the financial crisis.

00:06:49.640 They occupied Wall Street.

00:06:51.720 They sat around and they did nothing.

00:06:53.440 They didn't even stand.

00:06:54.140 They occupied it.

00:06:55.320 These lefties will disrupt Ben Shapiro's speeches.

00:06:58.420 Civil disobedience, man.

00:07:00.200 But they won't show their faces.

00:07:01.880 They'll wear masks.

00:07:02.900 Because if they showed their faces, they would have to experience consequences.

00:07:06.620 They want to have libraries without any books.

00:07:09.240 So anyway, here's Barack Obama, almost beyond parody, talking about his document-free library.

00:07:14.000 I won't stop.

00:07:15.340 In fact, I will be right there with you as a citizen for all my remaining days.

00:07:22.220 The single most important thing I can do is to help prepare the next generation of leadership

00:07:27.740 to take their own crack at changing the world.

00:07:30.260 More than a library or a museum, it will be a living, working center for citizenship.

00:07:34.840 We'll have projects all over the city, the country, and the world.

00:07:38.060 Our work has inspired so many young people out there to believe that you can make a difference,

00:07:44.140 to hitch your wagon to something bigger than yourself.

00:07:50.760 Those poor kids, I feel sorry for them if Barack Obama is teaching them leadership

00:07:54.300 because his legacy has been utterly destroyed.

00:07:57.200 And think about that messiah complex, too.

00:07:59.300 I will be with you until the end of days of time.

00:08:02.760 Okay, Barack, let's go away.

00:08:04.180 That's fine.

00:08:04.560 We had you for eight years.

00:08:05.740 You can go away.

00:08:06.140 Now, his legacy is gone.

00:08:08.380 He says this is going to show them leadership.

00:08:10.760 It's going to show people activism, how to make a change in their community.

00:08:14.680 But his legacy is over.

00:08:16.500 His legacy is as empty as the library.

00:08:18.640 On health care, just a quick recap of all of Barack Obama's wonderful legacy.

00:08:23.200 On health care, Donald Trump and the Republicans have repealed the individual mandate,

00:08:27.220 the funding mechanism of Obamacare.

00:08:29.220 Obamacare was already in a death spiral even under Obama.

00:08:32.640 The repeal of its funding mechanism has sped that up considerably.

00:08:36.140 In October, Donald Trump rolled back the mandate forcing employers to pay for abortion drugs

00:08:40.840 after Barack Obama took the little sisters of the poor to court

00:08:44.080 because he was so fanatically insistent that nuns pay for abortions.

00:08:47.880 Trump also ended some Obamacare subsidies known as cost-sharing reduction payments.

00:08:53.140 And he signed an executive order opening up competition in health insurance

00:08:56.480 and allowing some people even to purchase health insurance across state lines.

00:08:59.980 Now, unfortunately, they haven't yet whipped the votes to fully repeal Obamacare.

00:09:05.300 And they should.

00:09:05.880 And they should do it as quickly as possible.

00:09:07.500 The U.S., by the way, has never once repealed a major entitlement program passed through Congress.

00:09:12.180 But the White House and Congress have chipped away at it considerably.

00:09:15.800 We may still yet make history.

00:09:17.760 On immigration, Trump is looking to phase out Obama's unconstitutional executive amnesty,

00:09:21.900 known as DACA, even if the U.S. doesn't deport 800,000 of the most press-friendly illegal aliens

00:09:29.420 made for television, and probably we won't,

00:09:32.720 DACA still could be used as a bargaining chip for wall funding and other immigration reform.

00:09:37.440 Trump has cracked down on sanctuary cities.

00:09:39.600 Illegal immigration has dropped within the last year to a 17-year low.

00:09:44.020 Republicans have scrapped every single bit of Obama's environmental legacy,

00:09:47.560 including the disastrous Clean Power Plan, the Paris Climate Accord,

00:09:51.720 bans on the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines.

00:09:55.540 We've also opened up more federal land to private use.

00:09:58.600 Trump's EPA is on track to cut 47% of all employees by the end of its first term.

00:10:05.380 Almost half of the EPA employees will be gone just through retirement and attrition by the end of the first term.

00:10:10.900 On campuses, Betsy DeVos has repealed Obama-era regulations, 1.00

00:10:14.480 giving universities absurd control over student sex and the investigation of sex crimes.

00:10:20.420 Obama regulations forcing schools to let men into the girls' bathroom are gone, too.

00:10:25.380 Remember how for, like, a year or two, we had to just talk about the bathrooms

00:10:29.500 because Barack Obama didn't want to focus on the economy,

00:10:32.420 which he couldn't manage to recover even after eight years?

00:10:36.460 Obama's policy of net neutrality, remember that one?

00:10:38.940 Government regulation of the Internet has been repealed, ironically, by an Obama appointee at the FCC.

00:10:43.800 On foreign policy, unfortunately, the Iran deal still remains in place,

00:10:48.440 but Obama's policy of negotiating with Cuba by giving them everything in exchange for nothing has been curtailed,

00:10:54.580 particularly after Cuban commies responded to Obama's weakness by attacking our diplomats with a sonar weapon. 0.63

00:11:01.440 We still need to finish off Obamacare when you need to scrap the Iran deal, 0.94

00:11:04.580 but overall, not bad for one year.

00:11:06.420 The legacy-destroying lesson Obama learned too late, too late for his library, too late for his legacy,

00:11:11.440 and it's a warning for President Trump and Republicans.

00:11:14.820 That which can be enacted by a pen and a phone can be repealed by a pen and a phone.

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00:14:12.200 Okay.

00:14:13.460 Before, okay, we got to get to the mailbag.

00:14:15.220 Before we get to the mailbag, I do have one news story we have to talk about.

00:14:18.960 I have to point it out because it's a personal one.

00:14:21.500 Google is really going after us right now.

00:14:24.400 This report came out on Tuesday.

00:14:26.600 The Daily Caller reported Google is now displaying left-wing fact-check websites

00:14:31.620 in a fully separate sidebar on our Google results.

00:14:35.100 So when you look for Daily Wire, these fake fact-check websites come up

00:14:39.540 and try to debunk all of our stuff article by article.

00:14:42.800 And they don't do this for the left.

00:14:44.040 They don't do this for Vox.com.

00:14:45.760 For Vox.com, they have a sidebar.

00:14:47.340 And what does it list?

00:14:48.240 Vox.com articles.

00:14:49.500 What you would expect.

00:14:50.620 For us, they have a sidebar listing articles from only leftist websites.

00:14:54.540 So Google is so far only targeting four websites, all conservative.

00:14:58.800 It's us, The Daily Caller, Breitbart, and The Federalist.

00:15:01.860 They aren't targeting left-wing sites like Huffington Post or Slate or Media Matters

00:15:07.020 or ThinkProgress.

00:15:08.320 And coincidentally or not, the top left-wing fact-check on Daily Wire as of yesterday

00:15:12.940 was rebutting claims made by the worst heretics, the global warming skeptics.

00:15:18.480 People like Richard Lindzen, the MIT atmospheric physicist that I had on the show on Tuesday,

00:15:23.760 deniers, as the left calls them.

00:15:25.880 And speaking of Lindzen, YouTube, owned by Google, demonetized that video.

00:15:30.620 I don't know if you caught the conversation.

00:15:33.000 It was the entire conversation that I had with Professor Lindzen was dry.

00:15:37.440 It was academic.

00:15:38.540 It was about statistical inaccuracies.

00:15:40.620 It was one of the drier episodes that I've ever done.

00:15:44.360 There wasn't a whole lot of covfefe.

00:15:46.440 It was really analyzing science.

00:15:48.540 But a physicist from MIT is too much wrong thing for YouTube and Google.

00:15:52.880 So we contested this when they demonetized it.

00:15:55.220 We called them up and we said, you have to turn this money back on.

00:15:59.060 This doesn't violate any of your standards.

00:16:01.320 We argued with them back and forth and back and forth.

00:16:04.140 But they said, no, okay, we'll turn it on for the episode.

00:16:09.120 But for part of the episode that you broke out separately, we're going to turn.

00:16:12.260 Now we're going to demonetize that one.

00:16:14.540 They also demonetized an episode we did.

00:16:16.640 I did one called Jake Tapper Mean Girl, in which I explained that Jake Tapper, who used to be a journalist, is a mean girl.

00:16:25.820 And I dare anybody to prove my argument wrong.

00:16:29.160 I think I gave a lot of scientific evidence for that.

00:16:31.740 They demonetized that too. 0.51

00:16:33.220 Why?

00:16:33.660 Well, we can't be making fun of these left-wing hacks and these left-wing journalists.

00:16:38.600 No, no, no.

00:16:39.240 So this means Media Matters or some other leftist group that is advising Google has put up flags even on tenured professors whose statistical research it deems dangerous.

00:16:52.800 James Damore, the guy who wrote that Google memo, he alleges that Google managers would blacklist conservatives and even propose trials for people who hold conservative views.

00:17:03.020 Now, Google has a virtual monopoly on information on the Internet.

00:17:05.900 Prager University is already suing them for discrimination.

00:17:09.760 Conservatives should consider a united front.

00:17:11.980 It is really getting pretty oppressive out there.

00:17:15.520 Okay, let's get into the mailbag.

00:17:18.660 Before we get into the mailbag, oh, Marshall, you're so cruel.

00:17:21.600 You're so rude to them.

00:17:23.220 I want to keep the mailbag on for you guys.

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00:18:30.640 Okay.

00:18:31.180 Our first question comes in from, let's see, from Christian Silva.

00:18:35.820 Yes.

00:18:36.580 Question is, hey, Michael, I'm working on a campaign running to take the seat away from

00:18:41.300 Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

00:18:42.760 I know you've worked on campaigns before.

00:18:44.740 Any advice?

00:18:45.960 Sure.

00:18:46.280 Absolutely.

00:18:46.840 Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the disgraced former head of the DNC. 0.99

00:18:49.720 who got caught giving the whole thing away to Hillary. 1.00

00:18:52.480 So, yeah, I have a little bit of advice.

00:18:54.040 The district you're looking at, I think that's Florida, Florida 23 or something like that.

00:18:58.160 So, I forget the exact name of her district.

00:19:00.960 That district is D plus 11, last time I checked.

00:19:04.560 So things aren't looking great for you.

00:19:05.960 It means that leans heavily Democratic.

00:19:08.240 That said, the district has gotten more competitive, mostly thanks to Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

00:19:12.620 So, Democrats from 2002 to 2010 never got below 74% of the vote in that general election.

00:19:20.900 Schultz has performed considerably worse than her predecessor, Al C. Hastings.

00:19:26.060 Even in 2012, Schultz only got 63.2% of the general election vote there.

00:19:31.220 In the election prior, Hastings got 79.1% of the vote.

00:19:35.940 That's a big drop.

00:19:37.160 Schultz's popularity keeps decreasing in 2014.

00:19:39.880 She dropped to 62.7%.

00:19:41.620 Next year, she got a 56.7%.

00:19:45.980 So, it's still quite a hard race to win.

00:19:49.000 But the trend is in your favor, at least.

00:19:50.960 And her total implosion last year on the national stage will help you.

00:19:54.780 Now, I guess for the advice, you can't just run negative.

00:19:57.660 So, it's easy to just run negative on former Congresswoman Jar Jar Binks. 0.92

00:20:01.600 You should partially run negative.

00:20:03.380 You should point out her ample flaws. 0.85

00:20:05.360 But nobody votes against somebody.

00:20:08.020 They don't just vote against somebody.

00:20:09.420 It doesn't work.

00:20:10.260 You need to have a clear message and offer voters something.

00:20:13.040 So, Mitch Daniels, one of my favorite politicians.

00:20:16.660 Mitch Daniels in Indiana.

00:20:18.300 He won by large margins as a Republican, even as Barack Obama won by large margins as a Democrat,

00:20:23.620 same year in that state.

00:20:24.780 He had a clear message.

00:20:26.600 His campaign slogan was, I want to increase the net disposable income of Hoosiers.

00:20:31.940 That's very clear.

00:20:32.720 I know what I'm voting for when I'm going to vote for that.

00:20:34.900 And, yeah, you can knock the other guy.

00:20:36.280 You can run a little negative.

00:20:37.360 I suppose you have to.

00:20:38.620 But that's the message.

00:20:40.080 Offer them something concrete.

00:20:41.420 On the national stage, the politicians who offered something concrete and serious, strong messages,

00:20:47.980 those are the ones who win.

00:20:48.880 Some other advice for the congressional.

00:20:50.480 Ignore whatever Washington, D.C. tells you.

00:20:52.900 Whatever the consultants and the party people, just ignore it.

00:20:55.880 Rudy Giuliani gave us this advice on a congressional campaign that I worked on a number of years ago.

00:21:00.640 The people in the district are going to win you the seat.

00:21:03.820 Them and the donors.

00:21:05.060 Then D.C. is going to swoop in, and they're going to screw everything up.

00:21:07.860 So D.C. can get you some money.

00:21:09.440 You should take the money, especially if some of the campaign committees are going to offer it to you.

00:21:13.740 But if they offer you advice on the operations, they're going to give you cookie-cutter operations that know nothing about your district.

00:21:21.220 And they're going to lose you that campaign.

00:21:22.840 It's all about the people.

00:21:24.160 Another thing you can do is constantly innovate.

00:21:26.120 So just a short story, I was on a congressional campaign when I was 18 or 19, and it was a challenger race against a Democrat incumbent.

00:21:34.280 The incumbent, his name is John Hall, and he had been in the rock band Orleans in the 70s.

00:21:39.900 They're the guys who did, like, still the one that do-do-do, and they did dance with me.

00:21:44.880 I want to be your partner, can't you see?

00:21:46.720 So I decided, as a lowly staffer on this campaign, we would start the Young Voters for an Orleans reunion tour to get John Hall back on stage and out of Congress.

00:21:56.740 And we read this whole website.

00:21:58.420 I was writing up and performing in these music videos.

00:22:01.460 You know, I kind of ripped off his song and made it, Vote With Me, Let's Make John Hall Leave Washington, D.C., and all this.

00:22:07.620 It was just really funny, and it killed these guys.

00:22:10.560 So they couldn't resist.

00:22:11.740 They threatened to sue me.

00:22:13.180 EMI Music threatened to sue me.

00:22:14.560 John Hall, the band, John Hall himself did, and it got us a ton of press.

00:22:18.960 It made us look innovative and cool, and we ended up winning that campaign.

00:22:24.580 We won the campaign on the strength of the candidate and on the movement and the Tea Party movement behind her.

00:22:29.720 But it did help.

00:22:30.780 It gave us a nice bit of momentum, and it gave us good press.

00:22:35.700 So be innovative.

00:22:37.260 Don't just think, hmm, how can we not lose this?

00:22:41.200 Ooh, what's the thing that we're supposed to do?

00:22:42.640 Forget what you're supposed to do.

00:22:43.720 Politics is not one on what you're supposed to do.

00:22:46.500 You've got to be really innovative here.

00:22:48.860 So also keep the campaign lean.

00:22:50.940 Campaign bloat sucks up a lot of energy and drive. 0.94

00:22:54.200 I know this is unenjoyable, making some pittance of a campaign salary.

00:22:58.540 I've made plenty of those.

00:23:00.600 But it does align incentives to make sure that you win, and the incentive there is you get a victory bonus or you get a legislative job.

00:23:07.580 So run hard, run to win, and don't waste your money, and ignore the experts, please.

00:23:12.760 Including maybe me.

00:23:13.780 Uh-oh, maybe that was self-defeating.

00:23:15.120 I'm no expert on this.

00:23:16.100 I'm just a guy who's been on campaigns.

00:23:17.580 That's my advice.

00:23:18.600 Next question from Andrew.

00:23:19.700 Hey, Michael, I'm 20 years old, and I've been Catholic since birth, but for the past four to five years, I've become less religious.

00:23:26.480 I don't pray anymore.

00:23:27.560 I don't read the Bible.

00:23:28.500 I haven't been at confession in a very long time, and I'm starting to skip Mass every Sunday.

00:23:32.740 But worst of all, I've let more sinfulness into my life.

00:23:36.100 My question to you is, how do I come back to the Catholic Church, and what are some steps for me to get out of constant sinfulness?

00:23:42.920 Thank you, and God bless, Andrew.

00:23:44.840 Just do it.

00:23:46.120 Just do it.

00:23:46.740 That's the Nike advice.

00:23:47.980 Just do it.

00:23:49.020 I'm with you.

00:23:49.720 I was completely out of it for probably a decade, or at least the better part of a decade.

00:23:55.400 I think a full decade.

00:23:57.020 And so the thing that got me back in is I was convinced that God exists, and then I was convinced that Jesus is who he says he is.

00:24:04.540 And it all followed from there.

00:24:06.740 I was convinced of that by a few things, some by arguments, the arguments for the existence of God, some by writing, apologetic writing, like C.S. Lewis and like Chesterton and others.

00:24:18.380 And then there is the numinous experience.

00:24:20.660 You do have the experience of the world.

00:24:22.520 I remember once, I didn't remember this until just now, I was smoking a cigar and looking out at some plants in my yard that I was, I don't know, a teenager.

00:24:31.120 And I thought something clicked into my mind that pure rationalism, that my ideological view of the world and my atheistic view, it didn't explain these things.

00:24:42.100 It didn't explain my experience of the world as I knew it to be.

00:24:45.340 So that's a little bit more of the religious or spiritual or numinous experience that you would have.

00:24:50.680 But do it.

00:24:51.380 Andrew Klavan has a good YouTube video on how to find God in 60 days, which is to behave as though God exists.

00:24:57.900 If you do believe all of that, then that is going to work on your body.

00:25:04.380 Now, plenty of saints went through great periods of darkness.

00:25:07.760 Mother Teresa herself writes about a lot of these things.

00:25:10.520 So I wouldn't let the, not the constant emotional feeling of God, I wouldn't let that discourage you.

00:25:17.420 You know, the angel Gabriel came down to Mary, said, Mary, you're blessed above all women.

00:25:21.920 God himself is going to be born out of your womb.

00:25:24.780 Isn't that great?

00:25:25.500 She says, well, I'm the servant of the Lord, let it happen.

00:25:27.920 But then the angel went away and then Mary went on with her life. 0.71

00:25:32.600 And it's not like God was constantly saying like, rah, rah, rah, and this is great.

00:25:35.800 Mary went on with her life and had much difficulty and had to cry as her son bled on the cross and died.

00:25:40.860 So we see this throughout the Bible.

00:25:44.060 It's not like God is just constantly in a chit-chatting with us, but he does intervene at times.

00:25:49.720 So I wish you luck on your spiritual journey.

00:25:53.160 I would say keep your eyes in some of these words.

00:25:57.120 For me, because the temptation of my age and my place in the United States was this intellectualized temptation.

00:26:05.040 The temptation of being at a university and being young and from the Northeast.

00:26:07.920 So I've kind of found my way back a little bit through analytical philosophy and very intelligent apologists.

00:26:16.860 Go where your temptation is.

00:26:19.740 I would say, you know, whatever your temptation is, find the Christian and the Catholic answer to that.

00:26:25.560 And I think that'll put you right back on the right path.

00:26:28.460 But I wish you luck, pal.

00:26:29.440 God bless.

00:26:30.240 From Nicholas.

00:26:31.320 Dear Michael, I am a Catholic.

00:26:32.720 I'm shocked we're getting these Catholic questions.

00:26:34.740 We never get these.

00:26:35.460 I am Catholic.

00:26:36.540 My girlfriend is a Protestant.

00:26:37.640 She's been asking me many questions about the many different things that are important to the Catholic faith.

00:26:42.940 Like why the Virgin Mary is so important and why priests are able to forgive sins.

00:26:48.420 I have a very basic understanding of why these are, but I want to learn more.

00:26:52.480 Do you have any books that you would recommend reading so that a simpleton like me can get a deeper understanding of topics like these so I can answer my girlfriend's questions better?

00:27:02.340 Thanks for all that you do, you handsome Italian.

00:27:04.460 Thanks, Nick.

00:27:05.060 Appreciate that.

00:27:06.320 Priests can forgive sins because Jesus says so, most clearly in John 23 and Matthew 16, 19, but in other places too.

00:27:13.080 And Mary is so important because she's the mother of God.

00:27:16.440 I suppose we could talk more about that, but I think those answers are sufficient.

00:27:20.340 If you're looking for a good resource, I don't think you're simple-minded, especially because you called me a good-looking Italian.

00:27:24.840 But if you do want a simple and direct resource, there's a great one called Catholic Answers.

00:27:29.940 So if you want answers to Catholicism, Catholic Answers is a good name for it.

00:27:33.880 And they have the answers to everything.

00:27:35.800 The Catholic Church has been around for a very long time, and so they've thought about a lot of things.

00:27:40.620 You can go there.

00:27:41.280 And then I recommend also reading as much as you can of Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, some of the church fathers in that patristic era.

00:27:50.100 And you'll see, you know, a lot of people just start reading things that were written after the Protestant Revolution.

00:27:55.200 So they learn a lot of things that aren't exactly so, and they're responding to arguments from only one particular time.

00:28:02.680 I think the church fathers are presaging.

00:28:06.580 They're seeing in advance some of the arguments that will come up that we see in modernity,

00:28:12.720 and they'll explain to you why practices and rituals and theology has developed as it has.

00:28:18.200 So the easy answer is Catholic Answers, and the probably more edifying one in the long run is that patristic era in Augustine and later Aquinas.

00:28:28.900 From Benjamin.

00:28:30.040 Hey, Michael.

00:28:30.860 This was a long time ago, but I noticed you catching flack from a lot of Philistines on Facebook regarding the movie Lady Bird.

00:28:37.160 People were upset that you endorsed what they thought as lewd and pornographic as a Christian movie.

00:28:42.620 Not to rail against my fellow Christians and conservatives.

00:28:45.100 Go for it, buddy.

00:28:46.080 As I'm sure they mean well.

00:28:48.200 But do you think attitudes like these contribute to the inability of Christian and conservative art to break through the culture?

00:28:54.860 Sorry for bad wording.

00:28:56.220 I'm an engineer, not a writer.

00:28:58.160 Let's face it.

00:28:59.020 Movies like Fireproof and God's Not Dead flat out are not very good, despite the talent of those involved.

00:29:04.900 Why can't we make good art?

00:29:06.280 Why can't we have nice things?

00:29:07.680 This is a very long question.

00:29:08.780 Let's answer what we have so far.

00:29:11.160 So this is something we struggle with all the time.

00:29:14.160 We struggled with it even.

00:29:14.940 I'm doing Another Kingdom with Andrew Klavan.

00:29:16.580 His book that he wrote that we're now releasing as a podcast and I'm performing it, but it's got naughty words and some saucy scenes.

00:29:24.680 And we have people write in sometimes and they say, you call yourself a Christian.

00:29:29.400 I really liked Lady Bird. 0.99

00:29:30.680 I thought it was the best movie of last year.

00:29:33.060 And relatively, it was quite a good movie.

00:29:35.260 And it is quite Christian.

00:29:36.560 I mean, it's Christian throughout, beginning, middle, and end.

00:29:38.440 The protagonist's name is a reference to Christ.

00:29:41.240 But for those people who think that Christianity is just good manners and being polite and listening to some of that god-awful acoustic guitar music that they play at modern churches,

00:29:53.580 you've got to read that Bible.

00:29:54.980 You've got to go back and read your Bible.

00:29:56.280 The scenes from just Genesis alone would never fit that criteria.

00:30:01.660 You could never produce Genesis by those criteria.

00:30:04.680 There is sex and incest and fire and brimstone and cheating and lying of the protagonists.

00:30:10.680 There have been some protagonists doing a lot of this stuff.

00:30:12.680 So you have to perceive reality as it is, the truth above all things.

00:30:18.360 Christianity is not just some little sect and some nice feel-good philosophy that doesn't have a reference to truth.

00:30:26.000 It's true.

00:30:26.600 It perceives the world.

00:30:28.200 And so if we try to change the world, we're going to fall into a saccharine, sentimental religion that is no good.

00:30:35.240 C.S. Lewis said, if you look for truth, you might find comfort.

00:30:40.140 But if you look for comfort, you'll find neither truth nor comfort, only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin and in the end, despair.

00:30:47.320 So don't be brought into the saccharine and the sentimental.

00:30:53.540 I think of those paintings that were popular in the 2000s, Thomas Kinkade, the painter of lights, everything so nice and sentimental.

00:31:00.100 I like all that stuff too.

00:31:01.740 But you've got to perceive reality.

00:31:03.140 Our Lord lived in reality, and he dealt in reality, and he dealt with the woman at the well, and he dealt with prostitutes, and he called tax collectors.

00:31:13.240 You've got to deal in that reality, and I hope some Philistines get on board with it. 1.00

00:31:17.740 But, hey, we can just keep making the art, and, you know, another kingdom has done very well.

00:31:22.280 We're having trouble in Hollywood, not among the popular audience.

00:31:25.140 So I think maybe the culture is changing a bit away from that sentimentalism.

00:31:28.820 From Laura Huber.

00:31:29.860 My fiancé and I are in our mid-20s and excited to start a family together.

00:31:34.240 We recently watched a movie called Eyes Wide Shut, hedging our bets that Kubrick might be worth watching.

00:31:39.420 Turns out it's about a wealthy men's sex cult.

00:31:41.860 The next day, I serendipitously came across an article from Vanity Fair called,

00:31:46.000 Oh, my God, this is so effed up, Inside Silicon Valley's Secretive Orgiastic Dark Side, which details popular sex and drug-fueled parties that wealthy tech founders host.

00:31:57.300 The author, on feminist moral, not moral grounds, denounces the orgies, but the male participants claim this is another great way in which their great minds challenge convention, and it makes up for their late entry into sex life.

00:32:09.660 So there's a lot on YouTube about polyamory, what do you say of the future of this undercurrent in society, and of monogamous marriage?

00:32:18.580 You just gotta do you.

00:32:20.120 I mean, these things always come up, especially in decadent cultures like ours, cultures where the moral strictures go away, but they've always existed.

00:32:28.080 There was plenty of weird sex in the Victorian era, and certainly on college campuses, that's always been the case.

00:32:34.480 Lord, make me chaste, but not yet, is an ancient maxim.

00:32:39.820 What I would say, though, having been out here in la-la land, in the heart of darkness, I have noticed this.

00:32:45.780 I know a lot of people who have open relationships, open marriages, polyamory, and they cheat on their girlfriend, and the girlfriend cheats on them, whatever.

00:32:53.860 However, I've never met anyone who does that who's happy.

00:32:57.380 I've never met anyone who does that who's fulfilled or pleased. 0.86

00:33:00.540 It seems like you would be, until people get sex-austed.

00:33:03.940 This is a phenomenon I've observed. 0.64

00:33:06.920 It's sex-austion.

00:33:08.460 Meaningless, trivial sex with a bunch of random people isn't fulfilling in the long run.

00:33:14.360 So as a matter of culture, it will ebb and flow, and you'll get some of that.

00:33:18.340 I think smart people will realize it's not good in the long term and not fulfilling to them.

00:33:22.520 But that will always be around, and hopefully we can hope for them and pray for them and try to teach them, people who do that, that it isn't good.

00:33:33.120 It just doesn't turn out well, so maybe to avoid it.

00:33:36.780 But good luck to you and your fiancée.

00:33:39.240 From William.

00:33:39.980 Hey, Mr. Knowles.

00:33:40.720 My name is Bill, and I'm a young practicing Catholic.

00:33:43.320 However, my girlfriend of two years is a practicing Mormon.

00:33:46.240 I get a lot of different comments on whether or not our marriage will work in the future, but I personally feel like it won't be an issue.

00:33:52.520 With the exception of the question of what to raise our children, if we have any, we really have had a good and healthy relationship and openly discuss our differences in belief.

00:34:00.760 What I'd like to know is, do you think that a marriage can be successful if the two individuals have a strong faith in two different religions?

00:34:08.120 Sincerely, yours, Bill.

00:34:10.000 Yes, with a caveat.

00:34:11.220 Yes, it can be successful, I think, with people who have strong religious views.

00:34:15.540 I've seen it work very well in that case.

00:34:19.160 And by the way, your views might change over time.

00:34:21.280 People's views change over time.

00:34:22.980 I have friends who have converted from religions, who have converted from Mormonism, actually, or friends who have become atheists, or people who have gone out of being an atheist.

00:34:30.380 I was sort of an atheist for a long time.

00:34:32.640 So I wouldn't worry about that, except for the kids, except for the raising of kids.

00:34:37.320 That issue is going to be probably intractable.

00:34:40.680 And you don't want to confuse the kids and have them one day think one thing and then be told that the opposite is true.

00:34:46.480 And, you know, this parent is going to go to hell or this parent is going to go to hell.

00:34:50.620 You really should decide with the children first.

00:34:54.320 That doesn't mean that you or your fiancé need to convert to anything, but you should decide.

00:34:58.780 And if you think that you have the correct vision of reality, then do it.

00:35:05.200 A lot of my Mormon friends say, you know, this is just a version of Christianity.

00:35:08.780 Maybe you raise the kids in what C.S. Lewis calls mere Christianity.

00:35:12.240 There are ways to work around.

00:35:13.720 I don't think you need to dump one another, but you should solve that problem because it would be a real shame to get into the situation and say, we'll work it out later.

00:35:22.480 And then you get to the most important aspect of marriage, the creation of family, and you fight and you have to break up or something.

00:35:28.440 That would be a real shame.

00:35:29.840 So figure that one out.

00:35:30.780 And otherwise, I think you can work through everything else.

00:35:33.820 From Norman.

00:35:35.040 Dear Archbishop Thomas Michael Knowles,

00:35:37.360 I have been giving a lot of consideration to the Catholic faith and already, to some degree, consider myself a small c Catholic.

00:35:45.240 So your argument about God creating a particular church with a particular clergy resonated with me.

00:35:50.500 But I have also heard the opposite side argued well from members of my evangelical family.

00:35:56.020 They say that God's particular people was Israel and that the church is described by way of contrast as universal.

00:36:02.340 Jesus, the particular man, fulfilled the messianic prophecies to Israel, whereas Christ, the universal logos of the universe, is head of the church.

00:36:11.660 They quote two, I'm like Donald Trump.

00:36:14.740 They quote two Corinthians.

00:36:15.760 They quote 2 Corinthians 5.16.

00:36:17.940 We once regarded Christ according to the flesh.

00:36:20.260 We regard him thus no longer.

00:36:22.380 What do you make of their claim against the particularity and for the universality of the church?

00:36:28.060 What do you think St. Paul is saying in that verse?

00:36:30.200 I think you're confusing universality for abstraction.

00:36:34.820 There is a universal church.

00:36:36.240 The word Catholic means universal.

00:36:37.920 But the church is not an abstraction.

00:36:40.480 Christ is not an abstraction.

00:36:42.180 The paragraph you cite reads, quote,

00:36:44.160 For we know that if the tent that is our earthly home is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

00:36:51.980 For in this tent we groan, longing to put on our heavenly dwelling.

00:36:55.960 If indeed by putting it on we may not be found naked, we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

00:37:03.420 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.

00:37:11.480 From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh.

00:37:14.640 Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer.

00:37:20.620 We regard no one according to the flesh because Christ's conquest of death gives us the hope of eternal life, of being eternal beings.

00:37:27.660 But that does not mean Christ can be abstracted from his incarnation.

00:37:32.120 This is the temptation of rationalism.

00:37:34.680 It's a political temptation, it's a philosophical temptation, and a religious one.

00:37:38.420 Martin Luther wrote,

00:37:39.340 Now, one man's reason, his intellect and his will are perfect.

00:37:56.560 That man is Christ, but the rest of ours are not.

00:37:59.360 We see the themes of emancipation and revolution running throughout modernity.

00:38:03.420 But we should be careful when we overthrow in these revolutions what we emancipate ourselves from.

00:38:10.180 So the rationalist exercise continually distinguishes the symbol from the symbolized.

00:38:14.480 It separates them.

00:38:15.560 You can only comprehend abstract things, so the rationalist thinks in ever more abstract terms.

00:38:22.900 But Christ is not abstract.

00:38:24.860 There is no separation between Jesus the man and Christ the logos.

00:38:28.900 Christ is that unity.

00:38:30.560 He says it is the spirit who gives life, and he says this bread is my body, and this is a hard saying,

00:38:37.060 and only those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have life in them.

00:38:40.120 He is heaven-touching earth, the perfect junction of the symbol and the symbolized.

00:38:44.320 We groan to throw off this life, but we are not merely spirit or merely flesh.

00:38:49.100 Our particular selves comprise inextricably body and soul.

00:38:53.240 This is therefore the claim of the church.

00:38:54.980 There is no disunity between the particularity and the universality of the church.

00:38:58.480 As the Nicene Creed states clearly, there is one holy Catholic and apostolic church,

00:39:03.280 and her bridegroom is Christ, a man who was born 2,000 years ago to a woman named Mary in Bethlehem

00:39:09.880 and who existed before all ages, who in the beginning is with God and is God.

00:39:15.140 I do want to go back just one bit.

00:39:17.520 It just occurred to me on the question about the Mormon.

00:39:20.360 Yes.

00:39:20.760 So I'm sorry.

00:39:21.540 I was confused.

00:39:22.300 I thought that Bill is a practicing, in that previous question, Bill is a practicing Protestant

00:39:26.980 and his girlfriend of two years is a Mormon.

00:39:29.940 Bill is actually a Catholic, and I should note in this answer,

00:39:33.500 the Catholic church before it will give a dispensation for interfaith marriage

00:39:37.660 requires that you say that you will raise the children Catholic, 0.52

00:39:41.360 and there isn't any getting around that.

00:39:43.620 So you'll either have to do that or lie to the church,

00:39:46.580 which is probably not a good way to start your life together in a sacrament.

00:39:49.180 That does make it harder than if you were a Protestant or a mere Christian,

00:39:53.620 as C.S. Lewis would write, but you should be aware of that.

00:39:56.760 I don't want to spread any fake news on this show.

00:39:59.560 From Jeremiah, Mr. Austin Lively Knowles, King of Trolls,

00:40:03.680 I'm enjoying another kingdom, but it has raised a couple of questions in my mind.

00:40:07.240 Do you have any standards when it comes to acting,

00:40:09.560 I have no standards at all when it comes to acting,

00:40:11.100 of what you will not do, be it language or nudity for a role?

00:40:14.800 For example, if you were offered a role in something like Game of Thrones,

00:40:17.540 but it required graphic nudity and sex scenes, would you do it?

00:40:20.400 Why or why not? Thanks, Jeremiah.

00:40:22.800 I have no standards at all. No, that's not quite true.

00:40:26.440 I would take a role in Game of Thrones in a second.

00:40:28.520 I would do nudity, I would do language, I would do whatever,

00:40:31.620 if the art were good art.

00:40:33.360 I would do it if it served an artistic purpose and were beautiful

00:40:36.400 and showed something to the world,

00:40:39.000 beyond just little Michael, just Miguel Luzo.

00:40:42.080 So, I once was on an audition out here in L.A. for, I don't know,

00:40:47.460 some indie film, and the role required a nude bathroom scene. 1.00

00:40:55.380 And I said, okay, that's fine, I guess.

00:40:57.360 They said, the guy doing the interview, or the audition rather,

00:41:01.100 said, okay, and it's going to be a gay scene.

00:41:04.240 I said, okay, if it serves the story, and the story's a good one, let's do it.

00:41:08.720 He said, okay, and I'm going to be playing the other guy.

00:41:10.240 I said, well, you know, that's a bridge too far.

00:41:13.320 I've read about these stories, and the Hollywood Reporter,

00:41:16.300 and Me Too, and all this. 1.00

00:41:17.540 So, I wouldn't do it if it were gratuitous, and stupid, and pornographic. 0.99

00:41:21.400 But, as long as the story is serving a purpose, 0.99

00:41:26.700 then, obviously, it's important to do the beautiful thing,

00:41:29.900 and to create the art, and to show reality as it is,

00:41:32.420 which is not always beautiful.

00:41:34.100 But, that's where the purpose of it really matters,

00:41:37.040 and it has to go story by story.

00:41:39.220 And Game of Thrones, I don't even care for it particularly,

00:41:42.180 but that's an artistic show.

00:41:43.760 There is quite a lot of art there, so I'd do it in a second.

00:41:46.180 If you're watching casting directors, give me a call.

00:41:48.500 I'm here for you.

00:41:49.900 Okay, next question.

00:41:52.060 Oh, that's the last question.

00:41:53.100 Okay, great.

00:41:53.660 So, we're going to end on, yes, I will be naked on camera.

00:41:56.780 I can't wait to do it.

00:41:58.140 Give me a call.

00:41:59.140 That is our entire show.

00:42:00.280 I hope that you survive the weekend.

00:42:02.560 Speaking of the Clavenless weekend,

00:42:03.740 the penultimate episode of Another Kingdom

00:42:06.380 comes out tomorrow morning, Friday.

00:42:09.560 So, tune in for that.

00:42:11.380 Things are wrapping up.

00:42:12.480 It's a lot of fun.

00:42:14.220 Things are coming together.

00:42:15.640 And please send it to your friends.

00:42:16.860 It really, really pleases me,

00:42:18.700 and makes me so happy

00:42:19.660 when we can stick a fork right in Hollywood's eye. 1.00

00:42:22.380 So, please, please go over and do that.

00:42:24.260 Download it wherever.

00:42:25.660 Good narrative fantasy podcasts

00:42:27.440 about schlubs in Hollywood

00:42:28.800 who make it into another universe 0.98

00:42:30.340 with bloody daggers and dead damsels. 0.99

00:42:32.700 Wherever those are downloaded,

00:42:33.720 you can get Andrew Claven's Another Kingdom.

00:42:35.800 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:42:36.600 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:42:37.900 Have a good weekend.

00:42:38.580 I'll see you on Monday.

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00:42:47.860 Executive producer, Jeremy Boring.

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The Michael Knowles Show - January 11, 2018

Ep. 86 - Obama’s Virtual Library and Legacy

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