The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 860 - An Inconvenient School Shooting

00:00:00.000 You know your presidency is in trouble when you are bragging about mass firings.

00:00:05.680 But unfortunately for Joe Biden, whose poll numbers are tanking on every single issue,

00:00:10.940 the best thing he's got to brag about these days is the huge number of his constituents

00:00:14.800 who are losing their jobs because they are losing their jobs in the name of public health.

00:00:21.200 These requirements work.

00:00:23.620 And as the business roundtable others told me when I announced the first requirement,

00:00:27.220 that encouraged businesses to feel they could come in and demand the same thing of their employees.

00:00:32.700 More people are getting vaccinated.

00:00:34.340 More lives are being saved.

00:00:35.620 Let's be clear.

00:00:36.660 When you see headlines and reports of mass firings and hundreds of people losing their jobs,

00:00:42.820 look at the bigger story.

00:00:44.540 I've spoken with Scott Kirby, CEO of United Airlines, who's here today.

00:00:49.060 United went from 59 percent of their employees to 99 percent of their employees

00:00:54.560 in less than two months after implementing the requirement.

00:00:57.400 Ninety-nine percent.

00:00:58.800 Ninety-nine percent because they fired all the ones that weren't in that 99 percent.

00:01:03.040 Ninety-nine percent.

00:01:03.940 Lots and lots and lots of people are going to lose their livelihoods

00:01:07.080 in order to pressure other people to get a vaccine that may or may not prevent them from getting a cough.

00:01:14.400 Is Joe Biden sure that we are the ones who are not looking at the bigger story here?

00:01:19.080 I don't think so.

00:01:19.620 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:20.240 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:21.100 Welcome back to the show.

00:01:29.760 My favorite comment yesterday from Old Skooled.

00:01:31.720 Man, you know, when my producer sends me in these comments in the morning,

00:01:35.600 I don't see whose name it is.

00:01:36.640 I just see the comments.

00:01:37.740 Once again, Old Skooled, who he keeps coming up here on these comments.

00:01:41.580 He writes, one of my sons is actually named Brandon,

00:01:44.460 and he's on cloud nine because he thinks the whole country is cheering for him.

00:01:47.820 It's true.

00:01:48.220 And every single day, more and more of the country is cheering him on.

00:01:52.420 Let's go, Brandon.

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00:03:20.000 Okay, Joe Biden, semi-coherently, and I'm being generous, I think, gave this speech yesterday

00:03:26.820 about the vaccines and the vaccine mandates and how it's great if a lot of people lose

00:03:31.880 their jobs because they're not vaccinated, because then that might encourage other people

00:03:35.580 to get vaccinated.

00:03:37.200 And we need certain people to get vaccinated, okay?

00:03:39.540 It's not just about your personal choice.

00:03:41.420 It's not just about your liberty, as Biden had said a few weeks ago.

00:03:45.480 This is about the public health.

00:03:47.640 And Biden brought it home with this point.

00:03:50.000 At the very least, we need to get the nurses and the healthcare workers vaccinated because

00:03:55.380 you, if you're going into your checkup, if you're going in to be treated for some other

00:04:00.920 illness or for coronavirus, you need to be confident that the people who are treating

00:04:05.720 you are not going to transmit the virus to you.

00:04:08.460 We have to beat this thing.

00:04:11.040 So while I didn't race to do it right away, that's why I've had to move toward requirements

00:04:17.460 that everyone get vaccinated where I had the authority to do that.

00:04:20.880 That wasn't my first instinct.

00:04:22.900 My administration is now requiring federal workers to be vaccinated.

00:04:26.840 We've also required federal contractors to be vaccinated.

00:04:29.840 If you have a contract of the federal government working for the federal government, you have to

00:04:32.920 be vaccinated.

00:04:34.140 We're requiring active duty military to be vaccinated.

00:04:37.300 We're making sure healthcare workers are vaccinated because if you seek care at a healthcare

00:04:43.140 facility, you should have the certainty that the people providing that care are protected

00:04:48.060 from COVID and cannot spread it to you.

00:04:50.800 So you've, you've got to have that certainty that the people at the healthcare facility

00:04:55.680 can neither contract nor transmit the coronavirus.

00:04:59.620 And that's why they've got to get the vaccine, which does not prevent them from contracting or

00:05:05.220 transmitting coronavirus.

00:05:06.540 The vaccine may reduce the risk of hospitalization or death, but this is even according to the CDC.

00:05:12.440 I've got it right here before, before YouTube or whoever tried to kick me off for,

00:05:17.200 for spreading scientific disinformation.

00:05:20.760 I've got, I've got the report right here from the CDC.

00:05:22.960 CDC report shows vaccinated people can spread COVID-19.

00:05:27.780 So the vaccine mandate here serves no public health purpose.

00:05:33.780 The very argument, the justification that Joe Biden is giving for the COVID vaccine mandate

00:05:39.680 has no standing whatsoever.

00:05:42.880 It does not carry any weight because it doesn't achieve that purpose.

00:05:46.060 Okay.

00:05:46.660 And this is, this is, I think the key to thinking about the vaccine mandates here,

00:05:51.340 because there are all sorts of arguments that people are making about the vaccine mandates.

00:05:56.600 There's the arch libertarian argument.

00:05:58.700 This violates my individual liberty and you can't inject me with anything in my body, my choice.

00:06:03.220 Then there are other arguments.

00:06:05.740 You're hearing them from the left, which is that, look, you absolutely, we have to protect

00:06:09.560 people's public health and you have no right to spread germs here. 0.56

00:06:12.420 We all live in a society.

00:06:13.480 And you've got conservatives trying to make more prudential arguments in the middle.

00:06:17.820 I think what we have to do is look at the specifics of this vaccine and this virus.

00:06:25.480 Vaccines can do two things.

00:06:27.560 They can protect you from a virus and they can protect other people from a virus.

00:06:33.980 And some vaccines do both of those things.

00:06:36.480 These vaccines do not by the CDC's own admission.

00:06:42.140 So this vaccine apparently is very good at protecting you from going to the hospital or

00:06:48.420 dying from the coronavirus, but it does not protect you from transmitting the virus.

00:06:53.880 That's why the CDC gave guidance at the end of July saying that you've got to still wear

00:06:58.140 the mask, even if you are vaccinated.

00:07:00.140 That was the argument they made. 0.98

00:07:01.520 Now, you might say that's a stupid piece of guidance as well, but neither here nor there. 0.97

00:07:05.400 The justification for that is that this vaccine does not protect other people from the risk 0.97

00:07:10.960 of you, a vaccinated person, transmitting it to them, which means that there might be a

00:07:17.300 public health, there might be a personal health benefit to having people get the vaccine, but

00:07:21.120 there is no additional public health benefit, right?

00:07:24.640 I understand the argument for vaccine mandates going back to 1905.

00:07:28.620 There was a Supreme Court case about this going back even further.

00:07:31.340 George Washington inoculated the Continental Army against smallpox.

00:07:35.280 The reason being that we all live together and other people might be at risk by your personal

00:07:42.220 behavior.

00:07:43.600 But that argument doesn't hold here if the virus is still transmissible by the vaccinated people,

00:07:48.800 which Joe Biden doesn't seem to understand or doesn't seem to care about because he's making

00:07:54.120 arguments that do not apply in this case.

00:07:57.780 Doesn't matter.

00:07:58.540 You're seeing the VAX mandates going around in all sorts of left-wing places.

00:08:03.680 The Los Angeles City Council voted 11 to 2 on Wednesday to pass a new ordinance mandating

00:08:09.580 that most patrons provide evidence of vaccination against COVID-19 to enter the indoor portion

00:08:15.060 of a covered location.

00:08:16.680 This is at a lot of businesses, restaurants, bars, personal care establishments, and shopping

00:08:20.960 centers.

00:08:22.440 Retail establishments, grocery stores, pharmacies are not included in that.

00:08:25.660 So the very basic thing is you need to get some food, you need to get some medicine.

00:08:29.200 They're not going to require that, but basically everywhere else they will.

00:08:32.440 The LA rule will allow customers to submit written exemptions for religious or medical

00:08:37.560 reasons.

00:08:38.560 But then businesses have to require those customers to use outdoor facilities or to show evidence

00:08:43.380 of a recent negative COVID test if no outdoor facilities are available.

00:08:46.500 So the effect of this is going to be segregation.

00:08:49.560 The filthy, dirty, unvaccinated prole peasants have to stay outside and the good, compliant 1.00

00:08:55.880 sheep get to go indoors for now. 0.94

00:08:59.240 But the rules are changing every single day.

00:09:00.760 So who knows?

00:09:03.080 It's hard to follow these arguments because the authorities keep changing them so quickly.

00:09:08.620 The classic example of this is Fauci saying, don't wear masks.

00:09:11.660 Masks do not stop the spread of a virus.

00:09:13.360 And then immediately thereafter saying, no, you actually have to wear masks.

00:09:17.060 Sorry, I lied to you.

00:09:18.180 I lied to you because I wanted to make sure there were enough masks left over for my buddies.

00:09:23.720 Believe me though, I was lying to you then, but believe me now.

00:09:26.140 So the narrative is changing all of the time.

00:09:29.420 Be very clear here.

00:09:30.540 When we're talking about the vaccine mandates, you don't need to go so far as to say that

00:09:34.380 the vaccines are evil and they're going to inject you with microchips.

00:09:37.840 You don't need to go so far as to say that all vaccine mandates at all places at all times

00:09:41.540 are wrong.

00:09:42.280 It will suffice to point out that this vaccine mandated for this virus has no leg to stand on.

00:09:50.540 It does not achieve the purpose that its proponents are suggesting it will achieve.

00:09:55.900 Speaking of death, it's kind of a morbid topic.

00:10:00.740 California has gone further beyond just these vaccine mandates.

00:10:03.800 They have gone further to make assisted suicide easier.

00:10:10.660 Gavin Newsom signed a bill into law on Tuesday that will make it easier for terminally ill patients

00:10:16.440 to kill themselves.

00:10:17.840 Right now, terminally ill patients can already kill themselves in California, but they have 0.99

00:10:22.600 to wait 15 days before their families can get the lethal drugs and kill off their relatives.

00:10:27.780 Now, you only have to wait 48 hours.

00:10:32.980 The law also requires healthcare providers to post their physician-assisted suicide policies

00:10:37.520 on their websites.

00:10:39.200 The reasoning for this, the reasoning for making it easier for depressed people to kill themselves 0.50

00:10:44.880 is that a third of the 400 terminally ill patients who requested assisted suicide drugs in recent

00:10:54.840 years died before they had reached that 15-day waiting period, before they'd reached the end

00:11:01.180 of it.

00:11:02.280 So, because of that, because of the awful cruelty that the people who were trying to kill themselves

00:11:07.900 died before they had the opportunity to kill themselves, we need to make it easier for people

00:11:11.920 to kill themselves.

00:11:16.040 See, I was already having trouble following the scientific and medical logic of the day,

00:11:21.180 but that one is really hard to wrap your head around.

00:11:25.480 It's cruel that the people who are trying to kill themselves died before they had the chance to kill 0.56

00:11:30.060 themselves, and so we need to make it easier to kill themselves. 0.76

00:11:32.700 What, so they don't get an extra five days or something? 0.99

00:11:35.340 Is that why?

00:11:36.440 There's a personal twist in this as well, which is really, really disturbing.

00:11:39.700 And in a way, it actually gives you a little bit more sympathy for someone like Gavin Newsom,

00:11:44.620 who's a very unsympathetic character.

00:11:46.660 Gavin Newsom has a personal connection to this issue here, and I think it actually reveals

00:11:52.860 a lot of the illogic of the people who are supporting doctor-assisted or just broadly assisted

00:12:01.560 suicide.

00:12:03.180 What we want to do here is not support death.

00:12:05.580 We want to support life, which is why you ought to check out 40 Days for Life.

00:12:08.380 A lot of people talking about life and death these days, and specifically, they're talking

00:12:12.880 about abortion, with these court cases winding their way up to the Supreme Court, new pro-life

00:12:17.240 laws in Texas and Florida.

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00:13:01.780 You can do that at 40daysforlife.com.

00:13:05.400 That is 40daysforlife.com.

00:13:09.280 Gavin Newsom signed into law this assisted suicide bill to make it easier for depressed people

00:13:13.560 and terminally ill people who obviously are depressed to kill themselves.

00:13:17.500 Gavin Newsom seems to have admitted in a magazine interview to helping his mother kill herself.

00:13:27.500 So this is from 2002, this occurred in 2002, from the interview, quote, in May 2002, his

00:13:35.060 mother decided to end her life through assisted suicide. 1.00

00:13:37.180 Newsom recalled, quote, she left me a message because I was too busy.

00:13:40.600 Hope you're well.

00:13:41.240 Next Wednesday will be the last day for me.

00:13:43.560 Hope you can make it.

00:13:45.580 Newsom's mother had had cancer.

00:13:46.920 But Newsom says, I saved the cassette with the message on it.

00:13:51.880 That's how sick I am, the interviewer writes.

00:13:54.580 He crossed his arms and jammed his hands into his armpits.

00:13:57.280 I have PTSD and this is bringing it all back, he said.

00:14:00.560 The night before we gave her the drugs, I cooked her dinner, hard-boiled eggs, and she

00:14:04.260 told me, get out of politics.

00:14:05.880 She was worried about the stress on me.

00:14:07.780 This is a horrifying, horrifying scene to think about.

00:14:11.700 That Newsom's mother, governor of California, his mother calls him up.

00:14:15.580 She was terminally ill.

00:14:17.600 Who knows when she would have died?

00:14:19.540 Very often, the predictions on these things can be way, way off.

00:14:23.720 And she just said, you know, I don't, I've got cancer.

00:14:26.640 I don't want to live anymore. 0.89

00:14:27.680 I'm going to kill myself. 1.00

00:14:28.760 Hey, son, I'm going to kill myself. 1.00

00:14:30.200 I hope you can be there. 1.00

00:14:31.000 And she had her son come there to help her kill herself.

00:14:36.920 And he said he still has PTSD from it.

00:14:38.680 Of course he does.

00:14:39.840 It's a horrible thing for her to do.

00:14:42.060 And it's a horrible situation he was put in.

00:14:44.340 And it's a horrible thing in general.

00:14:46.100 It's an evil, evil thing in general.

00:14:48.840 She died at 55 years old.

00:14:50.740 She's very, very young.

00:14:52.120 In San Francisco, 2002.

00:14:54.140 This was while her son was a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.

00:14:57.680 At the time, assisted suicide was a felony in California.

00:15:01.380 No longer is.

00:15:05.480 This is gaining in popularity.

00:15:08.760 They call it euthanasia.

00:15:10.140 It's assisted suicide.

00:15:11.920 It's gaining in popularity.

00:15:13.400 There are really dark, really, really dark versions of this.

00:15:16.780 There was a story out of the Netherlands where an old woman had been scheduled for assisted suicide.

00:15:21.420 But she was sort of out of her mind a little bit.

00:15:24.060 And she would go out of her mind and come in.

00:15:25.340 And she was varying degrees of lucidity.

00:15:27.620 And when the time came for the scheduled assisted suicide, she begged them to stop.

00:15:32.340 She tried to smack the poison out of their hands. 1.00

00:15:34.920 Actually, her family members had to hold her down while a doctor killed her while she was struggling to survive.

00:15:40.340 So there are these really ugly things.

00:15:42.100 People who are depressed.

00:15:43.740 People who feel they're a burden on their families.

00:15:45.420 People who feel they're too old.

00:15:47.540 They give in to this kind of despair.

00:15:50.240 It's a very, very hideous sort of thing.

00:15:53.460 But you're seeing it even for young people. 0.57

00:15:55.680 People who are very sick.

00:15:57.220 This is an evil thing in and of itself.

00:16:02.180 Because the premise here is that suffering is the worst possible thing in the world.

00:16:08.780 The only reason to live is to feel good and to have pleasure.

00:16:13.400 And the moment that the pleasure and the feeling good wears at.

00:16:15.800 Or you feel that you're a burden to somebody.

00:16:17.200 Or you think life's not quite as bright as it used to be. 0.99

00:16:20.060 You ought to just end your life. 0.85

00:16:21.940 That is a very perverse logic. 0.92

00:16:24.420 It's going to lead to a lot of people offing themselves.

00:16:28.240 And it also is based on a false understanding of our own bodies.

00:16:33.480 And the left leans into this.

00:16:35.360 But the right does sometimes as well.

00:16:36.940 Especially the libertarian right.

00:16:38.160 We have this idea that we own our bodies and we can do whatever we want with them.

00:16:41.860 Do whatever you want.

00:16:42.640 It doesn't bother me.

00:16:43.380 Just don't make me pay for it.

00:16:44.460 But you know you have a right to do whatever you want with your body.

00:16:47.480 You own yourself.

00:16:48.180 No you don't.

00:16:48.740 No you don't.

00:16:49.140 You don't own yourself.

00:16:50.080 You don't have a right to do whatever you want with your bodies.

00:16:51.980 I know that this very liberal lowercase l idea has pervaded the left and the right these days.

00:16:57.200 But it's just not true.

00:16:58.080 You have obligations to your family, to your community, to your nation, and to your God.

00:17:04.500 To the transcendent moral order.

00:17:06.600 You don't have the right to do a great many things.

00:17:11.020 Not the least of which is you don't have the right to kill yourself. 0.87

00:17:14.440 Okay.

00:17:15.140 Speaking of death and distress, it's a really downer kind of a news cycle.

00:17:19.860 Well luckily we've actually got some good news coming up too.

00:17:22.180 But before we move on to that, we do have to talk about abortion.

00:17:25.620 All right.

00:17:26.060 This is the last piece of death I think we're going to be talking about here.

00:17:29.260 But there is a bright side.

00:17:30.320 I think the left is stumbling over their own illogic on abortion.

00:17:34.800 There's a writer, Julia Ioff.

00:17:37.120 I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly.

00:17:39.200 She's a popular writer on the left.

00:17:42.580 And she posted this whole tweet thread about abortion and how terrible it is if you are pro-life.

00:17:48.680 Or she refers to pro-lifers as anti-choice.

00:17:50.660 And she says, if you are anti-choice and you want to make sure women carry every pregnancy 0.90

00:17:55.840 to term, why not make the person who created the pregnancy contribute?

00:18:00.060 Why not have men pay child support to the women they impregnate? 1.00

00:18:03.980 Surely it is not the woman's responsibility alone.

00:18:08.180 Yeah, sure.

00:18:08.620 That sounds good.

00:18:09.980 Yeah, good idea.

00:18:12.100 Yeah.

00:18:12.620 Yeah.

00:18:12.840 I bet you pro-lifers don't want men to have to stick around and take care of the mother 1.00

00:18:17.680 of their child and the child himself.

00:18:20.380 No, we would like that.

00:18:21.460 That would be a good thing.

00:18:22.580 Yeah.

00:18:22.940 Maybe we should make it harder to get divorced. 1.00

00:18:24.920 Yup.

00:18:25.220 That sounds awesome.

00:18:26.260 Great idea.

00:18:27.380 Yeah.

00:18:28.180 And maybe we should discourage casual sex and the hookup culture. 0.98

00:18:32.900 Uh-huh.

00:18:33.360 Keep going.

00:18:34.220 What else do you have?

00:18:35.480 Yeah.

00:18:35.820 And maybe we should encourage a traditional family structure.

00:18:38.240 Uh-huh.

00:18:38.520 You're on it, baby.

00:18:39.260 Let's do it.

00:18:40.000 Julia, where can I vote for you?

00:18:41.280 This sounds great.

00:18:42.240 This sounds great.

00:18:42.860 So this has happened a few other times where these pro-abortion people think they've got

00:18:47.880 a real zinger on the pro-lifers because they'll say, maybe you should hold the men accountable.

00:18:53.980 And then all the pro-lifers, every single one of them, every single one in the entire

00:18:56.760 country will say, yeah, that's a good idea.

00:18:58.480 And what this reveals is that the pro-abortion side, they come to their ignorance honestly.

00:19:07.840 Okay.

00:19:08.040 And I actually mean this sort of as a compliment.

00:19:09.900 They're not, I don't think generally they're just lying about their motivations.

00:19:16.560 I think they genuinely believe that people who oppose abortion, pro-lifers, do so because

00:19:23.640 they hate women and they want to control women's bodies and they want to keep women as second 1.00

00:19:29.660 class citizens.

00:19:31.180 I think that's what they genuinely believe. 0.99

00:19:33.220 In fact, I know that's what they genuinely believe because when I was young and stupid 0.97

00:19:37.340 back when I was a teenager, I thought that I was pro-abortion. 0.98

00:19:41.500 Okay.

00:19:41.640 I thought the arguments for pro-life didn't make any sense to me.

00:19:44.820 I mean, that was the case until I was about, I don't know, 19, 20 years old.

00:19:48.320 I remember I had a conversation with a bioethicist during a summer fellowship once and she disabused 0.99

00:19:54.580 me of my stupid pro-abortion notions. 0.99

00:19:56.940 But I really had it in my head that pro-lifers, they just, you know, they just didn't respect 1.00

00:20:01.120 women. 0.81

00:20:01.760 They didn't think women ought to have the choice.

00:20:03.220 It didn't occur to me that the baby was actually the subject in this discussion, not just the

00:20:09.780 woman or the man or the society or the economy or whatever, but the baby actually had some

00:20:15.120 rights as well.

00:20:16.480 So I think it's good when these stories come up, when these pro-abortion people come up

00:20:20.600 and they think they've got a real zinger here, I think we need to speak loudly and say, oh,

00:20:24.640 you're absolutely right.

00:20:25.440 Good job, honey.

00:20:26.100 Yep.

00:20:26.680 That's right.

00:20:27.220 Let's end no-fault divorce. 0.83

00:20:28.400 Yeah, let's make sure that men have some say over whether or not their kids get killed 1.00

00:20:33.280 and let's make sure that men have to bear some responsibility for raising their kids. 1.00

00:20:36.640 Great stuff.

00:20:37.240 Love that idea.

00:20:38.400 Speaking of pro-life, you know that Nancy Pelosi pretends to be a practicing Catholic, but

00:20:44.780 she is in a great disagreement with Catholic teaching on a very important issue, a non-negotiable

00:20:51.720 issue that is the right to life.

00:20:53.240 And so this is a grave mortal sin, and this actually entails another sin, which is the

00:20:59.400 sin of scandal, because she is leading people astray by pretending to be a practicing Catholic 0.90

00:21:04.240 while supporting the widespread slaughter of babies.

00:21:07.200 So Nancy Pelosi's archbishop, Archbishop Salvatore Cordiglione, has come out.

00:21:14.540 He's a very strong bishop, very, very strong defender of the faith.

00:21:18.860 And he has called for the conversion of Pelosi's heart.

00:21:23.520 He says, a conversion of heart of the majority of our congressional representatives is needed

00:21:27.020 on this issue, beginning with the leader of the House, Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

00:21:30.560 I am therefore inviting all Catholics to join in a massive and visible campaign of prayer

00:21:34.060 and fasting for Speaker Pelosi.

00:21:36.340 Commit to praying one rosary a week and fasting on Fridays for her conversion of heart.

00:21:40.960 It's a great idea.

00:21:42.260 The reason I bring this up, you know, especially for non-Catholics, this might seem kind of weird,

00:21:47.320 the idea that just prayer and fasting are good ways to affect positive change in the world.

00:21:56.680 But they are.

00:21:57.440 This is the tried and true method, okay?

00:21:59.200 And just yesterday, we celebrated a very important anniversary here in the West.

00:22:04.160 It's the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto, October 7th, 1571.

00:22:09.000 It's one of the most important battles in all of history.

00:22:11.580 It was a battle between the Holy League under St. Pius V and the Ottoman Turks who were invading.

00:22:20.460 The Muslims have come close to conquering the West on three occasions. 0.93

00:22:25.740 The Battle of Poitiers, also known as the Battle of Tours in the 8th century.

00:22:29.820 The Battle of Lepanto in the 16th century.

00:22:32.280 And the Battle of Vienna, largest cavalry charge in history in the 17th century.

00:22:35.460 And these were massive moments when civilization, as we know it, could have disappeared.

00:22:41.400 And there have been victories that some might call miraculous.

00:22:44.940 In the case of the Battle of Lepanto, whose anniversary we celebrate yesterday,

00:22:48.500 the Holy League was vastly outnumbered by the Ottoman Turks.

00:22:52.220 And what did the Christian West do?

00:22:55.220 Prayed the Rosary.

00:22:56.360 Prayed for the intercession of Our Lady.

00:22:57.960 And actually, this is why there's a feast day in the Catholic Church, which is Our Lady of Victory.

00:23:02.740 Our Lady of Victory yesterday.

00:23:04.660 Our Lady.

00:23:05.140 And so, this prayer, obviously, you know, the soldiers, the sailors, the fighters, they did their part.

00:23:14.540 But there is this idea that we actually, our prayers are effective.

00:23:19.380 Our prayers can actually do things.

00:23:21.660 Our physical life and our metaphysical life.

00:23:24.020 Our physical life and our spiritual life are actually connected.

00:23:26.920 And so, one simple thing we can do, we can write op-eds, we can campaign, we can go vote, we should do all of that.

00:23:32.020 You can also pray and fast.

00:23:34.080 You can also do that yourself.

00:23:35.720 And I know you might think it's crazy and kooky and strange, but it has served our civilization well for a very, very long time.

00:23:43.980 Speaking of violence, there's a story coming out of Texas, a school shooting.

00:23:50.120 Usually, the media blasts school shootings all over the TV and the newspapers and everywhere.

00:23:56.440 This one, though, you may not have heard about so much.

00:23:59.040 The reason that you may not have heard about it is that it contradicts the prevailing narrative on school shootings.

00:24:06.180 How does it do that?

00:24:07.300 Because in the prevailing narrative on school shootings, all the shooters are white. 0.98

00:24:11.840 In this case, the school shooter was black. 0.94

00:24:14.380 Furthermore, it contradicts a lot of the narrative on criminal justice because what we always hear is that the cops go really easy on white people and they're really harsh on black people.

00:24:24.900 But in this case, the 18-year-old student who shot up a Texas high school was just released on bail.

00:24:34.160 He shoots four people, injures four people, shoots up the school, and he gets released on bail.

00:24:42.820 And so I don't, I don't, it's very sad.

00:24:46.380 It's sad whenever anyone shoots up a school or shoots up a community or, you know, commits any act of violence.

00:24:53.640 But that doesn't necessarily make it a national news story.

00:24:57.400 I mean, these things do happen.

00:24:58.780 The reason I mention this story is to point out that this sort of thing never would have happened if the kid were white. 0.62

00:25:06.740 If the school shooter were a white kid, he never would have been released on bail.

00:25:11.740 There would be marches.

00:25:13.280 There would be wall-to-wall news coverage.

00:25:17.880 And there isn't now because it contradicts that narrative.

00:25:21.660 And I don't want to fall into the trap of saying, you know, if the shoe were on the other foot, or, you know, if the roles were reversed.

00:25:26.740 It doesn't matter if the roles were reversed.

00:25:28.440 There were double standards in this country.

00:25:30.080 But you've got to point it out when it happens.

00:25:31.480 You have to be aware of it because some people, I think, are still locked in that matrix, okay?

00:25:36.340 One of the most persistent myths, canards, from the left's narrative on race and the criminal justice system,

00:25:46.780 and specifically on school shootings and church shootings and race relations,

00:25:52.180 is that Dylann Roof, he's the guy who shot up a black church in South Carolina.

00:25:57.540 Dylann Roof, when he was arrested, he was taken alive.

00:26:01.200 He wasn't killed in the act.

00:26:03.700 And he was taken alive.

00:26:05.520 And the cops took him to Burger King.

00:26:07.920 Have you heard this lie?

00:26:09.700 The cops, first of all, the cops didn't take an arrested mass shooter to Burger King, okay?

00:26:14.920 Could you imagine the cashier at Burger King, if the cops walk in with this deranged killer?

00:26:20.360 No, obviously that didn't happen.

00:26:21.880 The cops arrested him.

00:26:23.460 But they did bring him Burger King.

00:26:26.080 Okay, why did they bring him Burger King?

00:26:28.000 Because they had to feed him.

00:26:29.920 It is the law that no matter how heinous a crime a person commits, you have to protect certain basic rights,

00:26:36.600 including their right not to be starved.

00:26:38.500 They have to be fed.

00:26:40.520 Furthermore, the reason the cops bought Dylann Roof Burger King is because if they didn't,

00:26:46.160 if they didn't get him food, if they didn't satisfy these basic requirements of the law,

00:26:51.700 he might have been able to get off the hook or at least it would have raised problems for the trial

00:26:58.360 because he and his lawyers could have claimed that his rights were violated

00:27:02.220 and it would have complicated the trial and it would have made it harder to punish him.

00:27:05.560 Buying Burger King for that shooter, for Dylann Roof, made it easier to punish him.

00:27:11.000 It was a tool and an instrument in order to bring justice to that shooter, okay?

00:27:17.800 In this case, you're not going to hear anything about that.

00:27:23.040 He was let off the hook.

00:27:24.580 He was released on bail.

00:27:25.820 You're not going to hear anything about that because it doesn't fit the racial narrative.

00:27:30.620 Remember this story.

00:27:31.640 Remember this story the next time the left brings it up.

00:27:35.020 The next time the left tries to construct one of these kooky racial narratives about it, okay?

00:27:40.960 It's just not true.

00:27:44.140 You saw it with the whistleblower this week at Facebook.

00:27:48.780 The valiant whistleblower who is speaking truth to power

00:27:54.080 and that's why she's being lauded by every powerful institution in the country.

00:27:59.060 Virtually every single one, right?

00:28:00.360 No, she's not a real whistleblower. 0.53

00:28:01.900 She's not really speaking truth to power.

00:28:07.120 The narrative over who is oppressed and who is doing the oppression

00:28:10.800 when it is being pushed by the ruling class is almost always exactly the reverse.

00:28:17.800 Speaking of double standards, Rashida Tlaib, who is, I guess she's the George Harrison of the squad. 0.99

00:28:24.420 AOC is Paul.

00:28:26.440 Ilhan Omar is John.

00:28:28.960 Ayanna Pressley is Ringo.

00:28:30.220 I think Rashida Tlaib is the George Harrison of the squad.

00:28:33.900 She is a radical leftist member of Congress.

00:28:38.240 She was just caught on camera admitting that the only reason she ever wears her mask

00:28:42.460 is in case hostile media are filming her.

00:28:44.700 It's a little hard to hear on this video.

00:29:07.920 The video, as she says at the end, is being filmed by a Republican tracker.

00:29:11.540 So for congressional campaigns, the opposing campaign will send some punk kid with a cell phone

00:29:17.120 to film you all the time and try to catch you doing something unfortunate,

00:29:21.640 as actually happened to Rashida Tlaib in this clip. 0.96

00:29:24.180 But she's got the mask on.

00:29:25.220 She's talking about the mask.

00:29:26.420 And then some guy goes, oh, yeah, I'll put my mask on.

00:29:28.680 She goes, oh, no, not you.

00:29:29.600 No, don't worry.

00:29:30.240 No, it's not that.

00:29:31.100 The only reason I've got to wear mine,

00:29:32.840 I only wear it because I've got the Republican tracker following me.

00:29:35.840 And she actually, as she tells him that, she pulls the mask down.

00:29:38.440 And of course that's true.

00:29:39.180 We know that all of these people ignore the rules when they think nobody's looking.

00:29:43.080 That's true of Gavin Newsom.

00:29:44.360 That's true of Nancy Pelosi. 0.97

00:29:45.680 It's true of Elizabeth Warren.

00:29:46.600 It's true of Dr. Fauci.

00:29:47.540 It's true of all of them.

00:29:48.620 OK, it's true of every single one.

00:29:50.580 It's true of Joe Biden.

00:29:51.340 It's true of all of them.

00:29:53.320 But we've got to keep up the fiction, right?

00:29:55.900 We have got to continue the fiction.

00:29:58.880 I mean, I don't.

00:29:59.940 Except for the very narrowest of circumstances where I have to, for instance, wear the mask,

00:30:07.540 at least partially if I'm on an airplane or I won't be able to get on the airplane.

00:30:10.500 And I've made a prudential judgment that it's better to go fly somewhere than it is to sit at

00:30:14.720 home and not have the mask on.

00:30:16.380 Other than that, I don't wear the thing because it's obviously not serving a scientific or a

00:30:22.120 medical purpose.

00:30:22.840 It is merely a symbol of a political power grab.

00:30:25.760 And I do not cotton to that sort of thing.

00:30:29.400 Speaking of double standards, before we go, we will get to the mailbag.

00:30:32.840 Before we go, though, I have to get to this point.

00:30:35.220 The Telegraph, the newspaper, The Telegraph, was complaining about how James Bond in the

00:30:40.980 movies dates younger women.

00:30:42.860 And this is terrible.

00:30:43.440 James Bond dates these younger women and it's terrible and it's creepy and it's, it would 1.00

00:30:47.560 never happen the other way around.

00:30:48.800 So they tweeted, quote, flip the genders and suddenly everyone sits up in horror.

00:30:54.820 Remember, this was the promise of the mother, a neglected BBC funded drama playing a burly

00:30:59.160 carpenter called Darren.

00:31:00.200 Daniel Craig was 34 at the time, 32 years younger than the film's leading lady, Anne

00:31:04.360 Reed, who was 66.

00:31:06.460 And the movie didn't do well.

00:31:08.120 And it turns out that people actually don't want to watch a 34 year old guy sleep with

00:31:12.300 a 66 year old woman.

00:31:13.760 And can you, it's just such a double standard and the sexism.

00:31:16.920 Imagine if the genders were flipped. 1.00

00:31:20.460 But yeah, if my aunt had cojones, she'd be my uncle, right? 0.99

00:31:23.660 Like, yeah, if, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. 0.99

00:31:28.060 What do you mean if the genders were flipped? 0.86

00:31:29.300 They can't flip because men and women are different. 1.00

00:31:32.240 I know that the transgenderists today, the, the radical gender ideologues today think that

00:31:38.480 men and women are exactly the same.

00:31:39.740 That includes the feminists. 1.00

00:31:40.820 That includes everyone from the feminists all the way to the transgenderists. 0.85

00:31:43.900 They think men and women are exactly the same and they're, they're indistinguishable 1.00

00:31:46.880 and one can become the other.

00:31:47.980 But it's just not true.

00:31:49.120 So yeah, duh, when you flip it, it's weird and people don't like it.

00:31:53.100 That doesn't tell you about the problems of society.

00:31:56.180 It tells you about the problems of your ideology.

00:32:00.420 You know, this coming Tuesday, October 12th, we are taking backstage to an entirely new level.

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00:32:41.380 We'll be right back with the mailbag.

00:32:44.540 Welcome back to the show.

00:32:57.220 My favorite time of the week, the mailbag.

00:32:59.080 First question up from Jackson.

00:33:00.260 Dear Michael, I'm a law student running for class president on an anti-mask, anti-COVID

00:33:05.340 restriction platform.

00:33:06.780 Do you have any tips on how to persuade people to my side?

00:33:09.700 Thanks.

00:33:10.240 I do.

00:33:10.740 And I actually, I guess I opened the show talking about this broad, broad point.

00:33:18.060 I don't think you should make the argument from some abstract ideology.

00:33:23.740 Okay.

00:33:24.260 I don't think you should make the argument from some general rule that's going to hold at

00:33:28.720 all times for all illnesses and all vaccines.

00:33:31.340 I think you should very narrowly focus the message, point out that for the vast majority

00:33:38.180 of people, COVID does not pose a real health risk, that the infection fatality rate for

00:33:45.020 the vast majority of people is extremely low.

00:33:47.080 If you're under 65, you have a 99 point, at least a 99.5% chance of survival.

00:33:54.160 And if you're a young person, as we're talking about these law school students, you have a

00:33:58.300 99 point, something like 99.997% chance of survival.

00:34:04.460 For teenagers, it's a 99.999% chance of survival.

00:34:08.780 So the extraordinary measures to upend all of society don't seem to make a lot of sense.

00:34:13.100 Furthermore, the vaccine, while it may protect you individually from hospitalization and

00:34:17.520 death, does not protect you from, or does not prevent you in all cases from, from contracting

00:34:22.880 the virus or from transmitting the virus as the CDC admits.

00:34:27.160 So the vaccine mandate there, I think fails on the scientific front.

00:34:30.440 From the legal standpoint, it's, it's kind of dubious.

00:34:33.120 Even Joe Biden has admitted that.

00:34:34.880 And from the political standpoint, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris both, uh, during the Trump

00:34:40.760 administration said they very likely wouldn't take the vaccine because they thought it was

00:34:44.500 rushed and they didn't trust the vaccine coming out from Trump.

00:34:46.940 So now that they're in power, they've completely changed their point of view.

00:34:50.240 But this is a common point of view, the vaccine hesitancy as it's called on all sides of the

00:34:55.640 aisle.

00:34:55.860 And I think there are plenty of good reasons to avoid the vaccine, including your own risk

00:35:00.920 profile, right?

00:35:01.820 There was a study that came out of UC Davis that said that, that young, certain young men

00:35:06.440 are at greater risk from the vaccine than they are from the virus.

00:35:09.040 We know that they had to pause the Johnson and Johnson vaccine because women died from

00:35:12.780 blood clots, blood clotting.

00:35:14.180 We know that there is risk of myocarditis, pericarditis, there's risk of nerve damage.

00:35:18.800 And so these might be small risks, but when you look at the broader risk profile from the

00:35:22.740 virus itself, then the, the, the, the suggestion of a vaccine mandate, uh, seems a little less

00:35:29.040 palatable.

00:35:29.600 And so I would, I would make those really narrowly focused arguments and depending on

00:35:33.100 how lib your school is, you might lose, but at least you tell people what you really think

00:35:35.900 from Bethany.

00:35:37.800 Hey, Michael, my name is Bethany.

00:35:39.600 I know, I know you read it.

00:35:40.820 It's right at the top there.

00:35:42.220 Uh, I'm a huge fan of your show and love hearing your insights.

00:35:44.720 Thank you very much.

00:35:45.240 My question to you may seem really weird, but please hear me out and it'll make sense.

00:35:48.900 Is one related to one's cousin's cousins?

00:35:51.080 The reason I ask is because on one of your shows, you mentioned that you were a cousin

00:35:55.560 in law to Hillary Clinton.

00:35:57.540 Unfortunately, I am also a distant cousin in law of Hillary Clinton, uh, though her, 1.00

00:36:01.580 through her marriage to Bill Clinton, does this mean we are very distant cousins?

00:36:05.120 I think it does, but I'm not entirely sure.

00:36:08.520 That would be super cool if we were, since I enjoy listening to your show and it would make

00:36:12.960 me feel better about the unfortunate Clinton connection.

00:36:15.200 if we were also related to you, the Lord bless you and keep you.

00:36:19.700 I think, I think that may make us cousins, uh, but I, I suspect we could still probably

00:36:28.160 get married.

00:36:28.820 Oh, well, we can't get married because I'm already married to someone else.

00:36:31.220 But I, I, what I mean to say is I don't, you know, I don't think there would be worries

00:36:34.540 about, um, you know, genetic problems.

00:36:37.840 I don't, I, something tells me we're not that closely related.

00:36:40.520 It reminds me of, of a great advice I, I once heard, which is that knowledge is knowing

00:36:47.640 that a tomato is a fruit, but wisdom is knowing not to put it in fruit salad.

00:36:53.040 So I think the knowledge here is that, yes, we, we very possibly are cousins, but, uh,

00:36:58.360 I'm sure there's some distinction to be had between, uh, you know, our relation and our

00:37:02.960 relation to say our, um, our father's sister's children.

00:37:07.260 You dig, you get me?

00:37:08.500 There's a difference here, but nice to, nice to meet you, cousin from Arun.

00:37:12.260 Dear Dr.

00:37:12.800 Kofefe, do you think that prior to addressing matters of metaphysics, one should first understand

00:37:18.760 physics?

00:37:19.340 That is, uh, a basic comprehension of the material world in the classical sense of the word.

00:37:24.380 I ask because I've observed that while people on the right, like yourself and Steven Crowder

00:37:27.920 take great care to research the science and statistics before opening on the COVID hoax,

00:37:32.500 leftists tend to begin with moral pronouncements about the public courtesy of wearing a mask and

00:37:37.600 claim that those who refuse to do so are personally killing my grandma with their bare hands.

00:37:42.200 Do you think the woke journalism majors at CNN would have greater moral clarity if they

00:37:46.100 were required to master elementary statistics and biology before offering their opinions?

00:37:51.200 Well, I actually think the two are inseparable.

00:37:54.260 Uh, that is if you focus only on the physical world, you're going to miss something.

00:37:59.620 And if you focus only on the metaphysical world, you're going to miss something too.

00:38:02.020 And it's ironic that the left makes all these moral pronouncements because the left, at least

00:38:07.300 out of one side of their mouth, seems to hold this very materialist view of the world.

00:38:12.700 That's, that's what the cult of science is getting at.

00:38:15.520 They say that anything that we can't see and touch and put under a microscope is just not real.

00:38:19.760 It's imaginary and we should completely ignore it.

00:38:22.400 At least they say that.

00:38:23.280 Then some other times they'll say that our bodies have nothing to do with who we really are.

00:38:26.380 And if you, if you're a man who thinks he's a woman, you're really a woman. 0.84

00:38:28.560 But the other part of the time they're saying, you know, the physical world is all that

00:38:31.420 there is.

00:38:32.300 And the reason the cult of science is so silly is that, um, well, the, the idea that

00:38:39.880 the physical world is all that there is, is not physical in and of itself. 0.54

00:38:44.640 So the idea of science kind of undercuts this, this, uh, this materialist view of things.

00:38:51.920 So I think we've got to have both.

00:38:53.240 And I don't think we should even separate them very much either.

00:38:55.140 I think that we need to recognize that the physical world has implications about the

00:38:59.940 metaphysical world.

00:39:00.740 And I'll bring that down to earth.

00:39:02.560 I think it means that our bodies actually have a purpose.

00:39:08.100 We, we can know things from our bodies about what we should do with our bodies.

00:39:12.580 We can know things about this world, about what things are for.

00:39:15.480 I can look at the leftist tears tumbler and I can know just from the physical nature of

00:39:20.040 the leftist tears tumbler that the leftist tears tumbler is for delicious leftist tears,

00:39:24.060 right?

00:39:24.180 I can know what my, that my eyes are foreseeing.

00:39:27.520 I can know that there is a purpose here.

00:39:30.620 Okay.

00:39:30.740 I can know, for instance, from the natural world that there is a God and I can, I can learn

00:39:37.300 things about the world through that.

00:39:38.680 So yes, the left needs to understand basic physics, but, but we, we really shouldn't

00:39:44.720 separate those two things.

00:39:45.720 And I think sometimes on the right, we try to do that when we focus on, you know, telling

00:39:49.420 people only study STEM in college.

00:39:51.360 Don't study anything about the humanities. 0.95

00:39:52.840 I think that's very silly.

00:39:55.220 And, and the, the left obviously makes a similar mistake, but we've got to do all of it, man. 0.95

00:40:00.680 You got to walk and chew gum at the same time. 0.94

00:40:02.480 From Samantha, Michael, do you think people are born gay?

00:40:05.560 I've had this debate with my boyfriend of several years and he does not believe that this

00:40:09.460 is the case.

00:40:10.480 He feels that men are drawn to other men because of early sexual experiences in their lives.

00:40:14.520 And I feel just like how some guys are more attracted to a redhead over brunettes or

00:40:18.240 certain lady parts over other lady parts. 1.00

00:40:19.840 Gay men could also just be more drawn to men over women.

00:40:23.400 I love your show and I can't wait to read Speechless.

00:40:26.120 Well, my really sophisticated answer to this question is, uh, I don't know, right?

00:40:31.720 I, I, I know some of my friends, some of my friends are really insistent that there is

00:40:37.640 no natural inclination toward homosexuality.

00:40:41.160 And I just don't, I don't really buy that.

00:40:44.080 Homosexuality is a persistent phenomenon everywhere in the world throughout all of human 1.00

00:40:49.560 history.

00:40:50.740 And, uh, and I only speak from my own personal experience, not on homosexuality, but on sexuality

00:40:57.540 in general.

00:40:58.400 You know, since I was a very, very young boy, I guess since my earliest memories, I have

00:41:03.160 had an attraction to women.

00:41:05.080 You know, I'd be watching TV, I'd be watching Munsters reruns and I'd have, I was attracted

00:41:09.060 to the blonde girl and even the three, four years old.

00:41:11.720 I don't know why.

00:41:14.200 I didn't know what that meant.

00:41:15.180 It's not as though I were sexually aware or conscious, but I knew I, I had an attraction

00:41:19.760 to the, the girl.

00:41:22.240 So I, I, I can't help but imagine that gay guys might have a natural inclination toward

00:41:28.760 guys.

00:41:29.260 I mean, this is a, this is a very strange and varied world here and people, you know, have

00:41:34.720 kind of unusual things about them.

00:41:36.240 And so I don't think that implies that we therefore need to, I don't know, redefine

00:41:41.660 marriage or, you know, encourage all sorts of attractions and say that if, you know, if

00:41:46.580 it's natural, do it or whatever, if it feels good, do it or anything like that.

00:41:50.040 I mean, you can have any sort of discussion you want on sexual ethics, uh, but, but I don't

00:41:56.080 think that relies on, on there not being a natural inclination toward homosexuality.

00:42:02.780 I just, I don't, I think it's sort of beside the point.

00:42:05.560 If you're going to have a discussion on sexual ethics, I think it ought to presume that it's

00:42:09.080 a fallen world and there are lots of unusual things about this world and, uh, and, and

00:42:13.820 move on from there.

00:42:15.240 From Shane, Mr. Knowles, I find myself in a bit of a dilemma.

00:42:19.500 I've attempted a great many times through the years to attend church in a variety of denominations.

00:42:24.100 I always found the same problem.

00:42:26.500 I've always felt judged and demeaned by the people in it.

00:42:29.000 And most of the people acted as though it was just for bragging rights.

00:42:31.300 It was as if they went just to flout the fact that they went as opposed to wanting a spiritual

00:42:36.100 connection to God and their fellow man.

00:42:37.700 Any advice for a lost soul seeking a deeper connection to the divine?

00:42:40.060 Thank you from Tennessee.

00:42:40.940 I do.

00:42:41.980 I have an answer and you might expect this coming from me, but hear me out.

00:42:47.720 You should find not just a mass, you should find a Latin mass.

00:42:53.160 You should go find a traditional Latin mass and you might not have Latin and you don't worry, 0.92

00:42:57.600 you have a little booklet you can follow along and it'll give you the English translation.

00:43:00.100 But the reason you should find a traditional Latin mass is, well, there are many reasons,

00:43:05.960 but the reason in your case is because the traditional Latin mass is not about you and

00:43:12.360 it's not about the person sitting next to you in the pews and it's not about the people at all.

00:43:16.400 Actually, the priest is not even facing the people.

00:43:18.880 The priest is facing the altar and we're actually all facing the altar and it is all about the

00:43:24.020 sacrifice that is taking place on the altar and it is all about God.

00:43:28.820 And I think that that focus is going to resolve a lot of the problems that you're having in

00:43:35.520 whatever churches you've been going to, where it's people making it about them and which pew

00:43:39.960 they're sitting in and how upright they are and how they look and everyone's kind of looking at the

00:43:43.960 people and thinking about themselves.

00:43:45.580 But in the traditional Latin mass, you really lose yourself.

00:43:51.120 The smells and the bells and the ritual and the liturgy is all, it's taking you completely

00:43:56.820 out of yourself.

00:43:57.720 Even the fact that it's in a language that you might not be fluent in or familiar with

00:44:01.540 and you're following along in the English, that will take you out of yourself.

00:44:05.600 And I think that's, that is the stumbling block that you're describing right now.

00:44:09.760 And the best way that I know to figure out how to, how to get out of that problem is,

00:44:15.520 is the traditional Latin mass.

00:44:16.920 From Lucas, hey Michael, I'm a New Jersey resident.

00:44:19.900 And as you may know, our governor's seat is up for grabs this November.

00:44:23.800 The Republican candidate, former Assemblyman Jack Chattarelli, just had his first debate

00:44:28.600 against incumbent Phil Murphy, or as my boss calls him, horse face.

00:44:31.920 That's not very nice.

00:44:32.600 However, as a true conservative who cares about cultural issues, I wasn't in love with some

00:44:37.560 of his answers the other night.

00:44:38.840 He's pro-abortion. 0.57

00:44:39.880 He says systemic racism exists.

00:44:41.980 I think these stances are tactical because in a deep blue state like Jersey, he has to

00:44:46.580 appear moderate even to have a chance of being elected.

00:44:49.040 Do you think Republican candidates in blue states should do what it takes to appear electable,

00:44:52.420 even if it means giving ground to the left or take a hard stance against the cultural

00:44:55.260 degradation that is plaguing our country?

00:44:56.800 Thanks for all that you do.

00:44:58.820 I think that the Buckley rule holds.

00:45:02.400 I think you should vote for the most right viable candidate.

00:45:05.800 And I think there can be an argument.

00:45:07.360 Abortion kind of complicates this, but I think there can be an argument for voting for squishy

00:45:14.680 candidates if there is no better option available and if the leftist candidate poses a real threat.

00:45:20.400 I don't think there is an argument for real conservatives lying to the people when they run for office and

00:45:26.920 pretending to hold certain views to get elected so they won't hold those views afterward.

00:45:30.080 I think that's a bad thing and it speaks to a lack of integrity.

00:45:34.900 And so I would be skeptical about voting for someone like that.

00:45:37.960 But if you're in Jersey, you've got to live in reality.

00:45:40.240 You know, politics, politics at its best has a tight connection to reality.

00:45:44.980 And so I would recommend that you, you know, you make a prudential calculation there.

00:45:50.940 But there's far less of an argument for voting for that person if you think he's just being

00:45:55.360 disingenuous and lacking integrity.

00:45:58.180 Last question from Jennifer.

00:45:59.200 Michael, I'm a fellow devout Catholic.

00:46:01.020 I prefer the term practicing Catholic because I'm going to keep on practicing until I get it right. 0.95

00:46:05.220 But good.

00:46:05.980 That's great.

00:46:06.420 Great to hear from a fellow papist.

00:46:08.420 I'm in a serious relationship with a guy who was raised Protestant but left the Christian faith

00:46:11.580 as a young adult.

00:46:12.600 We've known how differently we view faith for the entire year we've been together.

00:46:16.400 But recently he started asking me what if questions about future children.

00:46:19.640 He seemed fixated on what if your son's gay and all I can do is tell him what the church

00:46:23.520 teaches about celibacy.

00:46:25.400 What would you do if you had a child? 0.99

00:46:26.540 This is a very gay mailbag today. 1.00

00:46:28.260 What would you do if you had a child come out as gay? 0.99

00:46:30.160 Obviously, I'd imagine you'd still love them and encourage them in Catholic teachings.

00:46:34.340 But would you attend their non-Catholic wedding if they had one? 1.00

00:46:37.120 Would you have relationships with their adopted children if they chose to have any?

00:46:41.420 I guess what I'm wondering is where's the line between not condoning certain actions

00:46:44.180 and still being there for people you love?

00:46:45.820 Thanks for being such a spectacular role model for the faith.

00:46:48.260 Well, thank you very much.

00:46:49.060 Yes, my little baby is the absolute apple of my eye.

00:46:52.400 And so, yes, I would love my child unconditionally, of course.

00:46:55.660 But I don't think I would be able to change my opinion on the definition of marriage.

00:47:03.160 And my faith would not permit me to attend a non—I don't even know if I'd be allowed 0.99

00:47:09.580 to attend if he had a non-Catholic wedding.

00:47:12.840 Actually, it's a matter of the Catholic faith.

00:47:14.480 So I hope that I would raise him in such a way that he would have a great reverence for

00:47:17.960 that thing, regardless of his sexual desires or any of the other issues that can come up

00:47:22.200 along the way.

00:47:24.260 So, yeah, I wouldn't abandon my faith and radically change my view of reality.

00:47:28.980 But I would love my son unconditionally.

00:47:30.600 Of course, as I love my gay friends and, you know, all sorts of things like that.

00:47:34.120 Believe it or not, you can do both.

00:47:35.580 This reminds me of this question of, you know, the Julia Ioff, who said, you know,

00:47:41.600 you pro-lifers, what if we made the men take care of their kids? 1.00

00:47:45.600 And you say, yeah, yep, that sounds like a good idea.

00:47:47.780 You can be against killing babies and for men taking responsibility. 0.77

00:47:51.760 Actually, it makes perfect sense to do all of that.

00:47:53.560 You can do that, despite how viciously the left-wing media wants to portray us.

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