Ep. 865 - CNN Gets Into The Ring With a Cage Fighter
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In the name of public health, one of the most famous basketball players in the world is being benched for refusing to take a Fauci ouchie. And as a consequence of those same public health measures, the Biden White House is warning that you might not get any Christmas presents this year.
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The next couple of months are going to look a little bit different as the cultural revolution
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marches on. In the name of diversity, inclusion, and equity, Seattle School is canceling its annual
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Halloween parade. According to the Libs, black people apparently can't carve jack-o'-lanterns.
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In the name of public health, one of the most famous basketball players in the world is going
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to be benched for refusing the Fauci ouchie. And as a consequence of those same public health measures,
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the Biden White House is warning that you might not get any Christmas presents this year.
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But there is a bright side. From school board meetings, to churches, to the Joe Rogan podcast,
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the people aren't going down without a fight. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Davidson, who says,
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Black people can't carve pumpkins, apparently. This is what I have learned from a school in Seattle.
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The school in Seattle has an annual pumpkin parade. That's a sweet thing to do. Isn't that nice?
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Little kids go around. They've got their pumpkins. They carve. That's a nice little fall Halloween
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tradition, or at least it was at Benjamin Franklin Elementary School. But you see that school's
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racial equity team. Why does it have a race? I don't know, but they have a racial equity team.
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This is one of the consequences of critical race theory, and this is one of the
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effects of that you see in the world, this critical race theory that begins in law schools and then
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permeates our legal and academic systems to the point that you have racial equity teams in elementary
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schools and to the point that they cancel pumpkin parades. Apparently, quote, historically, the pumpkin
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parade marginalizes students of color who do not celebrate the holiday. Specifically, these students
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have requested to be isolated on campus while the event took place. This, according to a spokesman
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from the school, talking to our friend Jason Ranz, who's a radio host in Seattle, the students are
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like six, right? So we are being told that, and I don't even believe that this is true, but let's just
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say that it is true that a six-year-old didn't want to participate in the school activity. We are being
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told that that is basically the equivalent of a bus boycott. We're told this is basically the
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equivalent of the civil rights marches, the March on Washington, because you see black people, they
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don't have Halloween. That's a white person holiday. They don't have the fall. The fall is a white person
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season. What is a black person season? I have no idea. It seems to me it's pretty counterproductive to
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caricature black people in this way, as if black people can't carve the pumpkins. It actually reminds
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me of something that I noticed in college. So I'm in college, not that long ago, what was it, like 10
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years ago, less? And I'm in college, and it was Martin Luther King Day. Very, very liberal, liberal
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college. And they served a special meal in the dining halls. They served Barack Obama's favorite
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fried chicken recipe. And they served a bunch of other food that's mostly southern food that we
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traditionally associate with black people, watermelon, that sort of thing. And I looked at
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that, and I thought, hold on. So Martin Luther King Day, on Martin Luther King Day, you have Barack
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Obama's favorite fried chicken recipe, because Obama and Martin Luther King are both black, so that makes
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total sense. And Obama, because he's a black guy, man, he loves his fried chicken. Isn't that right?
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I doubt that he does. I suspect that Barack Obama probably prefers mahi-mahi or something,
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because he grew up in Hawaii, and he was raised almost exclusively by white people. And it's this
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ridiculous caricature to pretend that, because Barack Obama's black, what, he drinks grape soda
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or something? And he, no, because at these very liberal, enlightened institutions, everyone's got
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to fit in their little box. And only white people do this, and only black people do this. And apparently,
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this has gone all the way down to this very woke elementary school, where the black kids can't
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carve the pumpkins. Halloween is not the only holiday being canceled, though. Looking beyond
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Halloween, we are now being told, well, we were excited for a little bit, because Dr. Fauci told
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us that maybe we could have Christmas this year. Remember, he canceled it last year, then he sort
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of canceled it this year, and then he got pushed back. And so he said, okay, maybe you can have
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Christmas. But Jen Psaki over at the White House says, sure, you can celebrate Christmas. But you
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ain't going to get any presents. Based on everything being announced today, can this
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administration guarantee that holiday packages will arrive on time? We are not the Postal Service
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or UPS or FedEx. We cannot guarantee. What we can do is use every lever at the federal government
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disposal to reduce delays, to ensure that we are addressing bottlenecks in the system, including
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ports and the need for them to be open longer hours so that goods can arrive. And we can continue to
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press not only workers and unions, but also companies to take as many steps as they can to reduce these
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delays. Now, I don't want to be too harsh here and just take pot shots at Jen Psaki,
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because I can. I suppose there is a nice aspect of reducing the materialism and the commercialism
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of Christmas and bringing the real reason for the season back into focus. Yes, that is all good.
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I'm not sure this is the way to do it, though. I don't think that the way to reduce the commercialism
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of Christmas, that the best way is necessarily to destroy the global supply chains and lock down the
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world over a cough. I don't know that that's, I suppose, whatever works. But what this really
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shows you beyond Christmas, and this will have effects well beyond Christmas, is the enormous
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tale of these lockdowns. The lie that we were told a year ago, beginning with the 15 days to slow the
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spread that are now in the 590th day to slow the spread, was that you could shut down the country,
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really shut down the entire world, and then that would just be fine, and there would be no
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consequences. You just lock people up for weeks and weeks and months and months, and now well over
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a year. You stop making stuff. You stop shipping stuff. You stop being productive. And then that
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would be fine, and you can just turn it on again. You can turn off the world and turn it on again.
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I don't particularly like Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. I think it's a pretty stupid book,
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and her philosophy is awful. However, you've got to give the woman credit here. The book is about
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turning off the motor of the world and stopping the productive aspects of the world economy,
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and recognizing that there are terrible consequences of that. We are seeing that right now, okay? So at
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least in that narrow aspect, that is correct. And what does the White House have to tell us about
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this? Say, you know, hey, look, nothing to see here. Just, yeah, you're not going to get your
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Christmas presents. If anyone has tried to order anything over the past six months, you'll know
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it's very difficult. I moved into a house for the first time. You know, I was living in a small
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apartment, and I moved into a house in Tennessee, so I needed a bunch of furniture. I still don't have a
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lot of that furniture because the supply chains are completely destroyed, and that is going to
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continue for a long time. So if you want to get your little kitties a Christmas present,
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I would start stocking up now. And speaking of these COVID lockdowns, I guess the worse it is
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for the economy, the worse it is for our political system, in some ways, the better it is for the
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culture. Things are getting worse and worse and worse, but people are recognizing that. Even people
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who are not traditionally rock-ribbed conservatives, people who are not necessarily traditionally on our
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side, they're beginning to wake up and say, wow, this liberal ruling class, there's something really,
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really wrong here. I'm trying to think of the people. Well, you notice this a little bit with
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the Me Too movement. You'd see a couple of left-wingers waking up and saying, wow, the right-wing here is
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actually making a little bit more sense. Well, you notice that J.K. Rowling, right? J.K. Rowling,
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the author of Harry Potter, is a left-wing feminist, but she's now agreeing with the right
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on the transgender issue because the issue has gotten so crazy. And here in our own country,
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I think the clearest example of this is Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, who is now being vilified by the media,
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is no rock-ribbed conservative. Joe Rogan was a Bernie bro. He supported the furthest left candidate
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in the presidential race last cycle, last year. And yet, because Joe has sort of seen through the
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haze and the fog and the lies, seen behind the curtain of this lying media, Joe Rogan is now on
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the side of conservatives. And he called out CNN to their face. Joe Rogan invited Sanjay Gupta,
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CNN's chief medical correspondent, onto his show. And he had a simple question.
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Does it bother you that your network totally lied about me?
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You're talking about a drug that's been given out to billions and billions of people,
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a drug that was responsible for one of the inventors of it making the Nobel Prize in 2015.
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Yeah. A drug that has been shown to stop viral replication in vitro. You know that, right? Why
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would they lie and say that's Horstie Wimmer? I can afford people medicine, motherf*****er.
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This is ridiculous. It's just a lie. But don't you think that a lie like that is dangerous
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on a news network when you know that they know they're lying? You know that they know
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that I took medicine. Like, here it is. This is ivermectin. This is it right here. Somebody
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gave it to me. All right. Hang on. The thing is, we're like going so fast. Like, I feel like
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I'm missing. I'm missing. You think that's a problem that your news network lies? Well,
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I don't, I don't. Dude. What did they say? They lied and said I was taking horse dewormer. First
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of all, it was prescribed to me by a doctor along with a bunch of other medications. If you got a
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human pill because there were people that were taking the veterinary medication and I, you're
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not, obviously. You got it from a doctor. So that it shouldn't be called that. Ivermectin
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can be a very effective medication. There it is there. Thank you, Sanjay. Thank
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you, CNN, for admitting this when you got totally called out on it and backed into a
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corner and you tried every which way to evade it. I can't believe Sanjay Gupta's first reaction
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here, which is, well, hold on. I mean, we're, we're going kind of fast, aren't we? Joe Rogan
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speaks very slowly and he's saying one thing. He's, it's not like he's moving a mile a minute
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here and jumping from topic to topic. He goes, Hey, does it bother you that you guys lied
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about this drug that I took? Joe, I just, gosh, slow down, buddy. Okay. Does it bother
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you? And then, so finally Gupta can't get out of it and Rogan's not letting him off the
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hook and Gupta finally has to admit, okay, yeah. All right. I'm sure. We said that you
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took horse dewormer and yeah, I'm looking at the pill bottle that was prescribed by the
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and I guess, I guess you didn't. Okay. Can we move on now? Can we move on now, please?
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And Joe Rogan won't let him move on. Can I just come back to the one I want to talk
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about? No, no, no, no, no, no. You have to, you have, before we get to that, does it bother
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you that the news network you work for out and out lied? Well, outright lied about me
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taking horse dewormer. They, they, they shouldn't have said that. Why did they do that? I don't
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know. You didn't ask. I didn't think that you're the medical guy over there. I didn't ask.
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I should have asked before. But they did it with such glee. No, Joe. Yes, they did. I watched.
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No, no, Joe. And they did do it with glee and they did it without any even hint of shame. And
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then, so when he ignited, he goes, yeah, well, okay, maybe they shouldn't have done that. Can
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we please move on now? No, we can't move on. Why just, why did they do that? Can you give me an
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answer? Well, I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? You're their top medical correspondent,
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Sanjay Gupta. And you thought that you could just get away with this and you could giggle and say,
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oh, ha ha. All those stupid idiot rube Nazi alt-right, whatever, whatever label they want to
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say. Trump supporting bitter clinging rubes are, are just gobbling up horse dewormer. What a bunch
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of idiots. And oh, and Joe Rogan's one of them. Yeah, he's one of them now too. Even though he was
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a Bernie bro like five minutes ago. Yeah. Now we hate him. We like, we used to like him when he was on
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the left, but now he has said like sort of some slightly critical things about Biden. Yeah. He's
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a dumb idiot who eats horse gum and paste, right? So all I would say to Joe Rogan here is yes,
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slay queen, slay. Yes. Awesome. And what I would say to everyone who listened to that is look at how
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they fold when they're called on it. Look at how they fold. You know, I guess this is the phenomenon
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of the so-and-so destroys debates. You know, what's the format? It's conservative person
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destroys liberal person in a debate. And then you post a five minute clip and you see left-wingers
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getting their most sacred, cherished maxims and moral edicts knocked down before their very eyes
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with facts and logic. And so I guess we at the Daily Wire sort of pioneered this particular
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genre. But the reason that it went viral is because one, the right-wing arguments,
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the conservative arguments tend to be more persuasive than the left-wing slogans. And because
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the left-wingers are unprepared. 99 times out of a hundred, the left-wingers can't respond to the
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conservative arguments. I think this is because the conservative arguments are stronger.
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But even if you don't think that, the most basic reason why the left-wingers can't respond to the
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right-wingers is because the left-wingers are never exposed to those arguments. The left-wingers are
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living in a bubble. They are dominating the media and the big tech companies and the educational
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institutions and the government. And so they're just unaware of their own BS and they're never called
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out on it. It's like a fish in water. They're just not aware of these crazy, ridiculous premises
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that they're moving around in. And so anytime that some conservative is finally able to break
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through the bubble, whether it's because they get to speak on a college campus through sheer tyranny of
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will, or because they make it onto some TV show, or because they get Sanjay Gupta to sit down,
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they fold. They fold because there is no defense for the preposterous notion that any people who
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look into ivermectin are eating horse dewormer. Okay? It's just not, it's just not true. So the
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question is, what else are they lying about? And this is where we get to my friend, Stephen Crowder.
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I'm going to try to speak to my friend, Stephen Crowder, a little, little bit later today. You
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probably haven't heard much from him on YouTube recently because he's been kicked off of YouTube.
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And the way YouTube works is you get strikes. So you get strikes usually for just saying true things,
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if those true things are inconvenient. But they'll give you strikes for any number of reasons. They
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find your content offensive. They say your content is misleading, even if it's leading. I don't know.
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It's the opposite of misleading. Even if it's honest content, then especially they'll go after you.
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And so Crowder now has two strikes on his channel. That means he's going to be down for a week.
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Third strike, you're out. Third strike, Stephen Crowder, one of the most popular channels on
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YouTube, is gone forever. Why is Stephen Crowder gone? Well, it's actually a little bit our fault.
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Our fault here at the Daily Wire. We broke a story the other day. This was a major news story about
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how in Loudoun County, a girl was raped and she was raped in a bathroom, allegedly. And she was raped
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allegedly by a guy who sometimes wears a dress, who probably doesn't belong in that girl's bathroom,
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but the left now believes that men should enter the women's bathrooms. And they tell us there's
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no risk of any women being harmed here. And then a woman was harmed and the school covers it up.
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So we broke that story. Media, the establishment media didn't want to cover it. Finally, now,
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actually, the Washington Post has had to pick it up, which we'll get to in a second.
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But Stephen Crowder covers the story. That was enough. Here is what the YouTube lawyer wrote to
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Stephen Crowder. On October 30th, Mr. Crowder uploaded another video that YouTube has determined
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continues his prior conduct. The video contains a segment that targets the transgender community
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in an offensive manner, for example, by indicating that trans people pose a rape threat to women.
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All right, I'll finish reading it before we answer this. Consistent with the recklessness
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provisions of its hate speech policy, YouTube has removed this video from the service and assessed
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a strike against the Stephen Crowder channel. Per YouTube strikes policy, this results in a one-week
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upload freeze for the channel. Further violation of YouTube's hate speech policy will result in
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additional penalties. This is an acceleration of the policy that I violated a couple of weeks ago,
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where our social media team caught it in time. But do you remember this? There was a portion of my
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show that was censored on YouTube. It was last week or two weeks ago. And the terrible thing that I did,
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the awful misconduct I engaged in, was that I quoted the director of the CDC, Dr. Rochelle Walensky.
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I don't know, am I even allowed to say it now? Well, I'll say it. And if they censor me, I guess
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Stephen Crowder and I will go down together. But what the CDC director said was that the coronavirus,
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and in particular the Delta variant, was being transmitted even among vaccinated people.
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That the vaccines did not prevent the contraction and transmission of the coronavirus.
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I did not suggest that the vaccine doesn't do anything at all. I did not suggest that the vaccine
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doesn't have any potentially positive upside with regard to these things. I just played the clip
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from the director of the CDC. We were told that you can't do that. I hope we can. Can we get away
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with it now? Because I'm just talking about what YouTube is saying, because the YouTube policy says
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you can't say this thing that the CDC director said. What Stephen Crowder did was he just read
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our news story. He just read a news story that now even the Washington Post has to carry. But because
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the reality contradicted the left's narrative, namely that letting men into the women's bathroom
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can never result in any bad thing happening to women. Letting men into the women's changing room
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can never result in any bad thing happening to women. Because reality contradicted the lies of the
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left, Stephen Crowder doesn't get to have a YouTube channel, at least for a week, possibly not
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forever. That's an actual sacrifice. Crowder is sacrificing money right now, a lot of money.
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He's sacrificing his voice. He's sacrificing his career for stating a plain truth. And it is going
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Benj is going to be joined by Barry Weiss, terrific writer, journalist, and the voice of her own
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excellent podcast, Honestly. They sit down, they make sense of what's going on, so go check that
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out on the Sunday special. We'll be right back with a lot more.
00:23:27.360
Steven Crowder. I hate to say nice things about the guy, but he's actually sacrificing something
00:23:45.220
right now. He's telling the truth, and he's being punished financially, professionally,
00:23:49.240
maybe personally soon enough, and he's not the only one. Kyrie Irving. This is someone that I wasn't
00:23:58.100
paying particular attention to more than a month ago. I do not follow sports all that closely. The
00:24:05.760
only sport I really follow is baseball. Kyrie Irving is a basketball player, but Kyrie Irving has caught my
00:24:11.720
attention, and he's caught my attention because he is taking a stand, and he is being punished for it.
00:24:19.400
Kyrie Irving, one of the most prominent athletes in the world, is being benched because he refuses to
00:24:27.720
You think I really want to give up on my dream to go after a championship? You think I really just want
00:24:34.480
to sit at home and not go after the things with my teammates that I've been able to grow with, to learn with,
00:24:45.660
to learn that it takes sacrifice in this space? Because we could be easily at home chilling with our
00:24:50.840
families, but we're choosing to go out there and perform. And even in that job, that's a dream come true.
00:24:57.500
I've been working on that since I was in fourth grade. You think I want to give up my livelihood because of a mandate,
00:25:01.880
because I don't have accommodations, because I'm unvaccinated? Come on. I'm not going to be used
00:25:07.660
as a person in this agenda. I'm not even going to speak on that. I'm just saying it should not be
00:25:16.440
divided amongst all of us. It should just be understood and respected.
00:25:20.460
A principled stand. As I've mentioned before, there are plenty of reasons why one would not get the
00:25:28.140
vaccine. Kyrie Irving might be looking at the fact that he is a young, ostensibly very healthy person
00:25:34.520
and the rate of him, or the chances rather, of him going to the hospital or dying from the
00:25:39.180
coronavirus are exceptionally low. He might be looking at the way that the vaccines were produced.
00:25:45.980
I don't know. I'm just, I'm not saying this applies directly to Irving. I'm saying these are reasons that
00:25:51.040
people might object to taking the vaccine because they were developed and in some cases produced
00:25:56.760
with stem cells derived from aborted fetal lines. Now, that would be one reason why. He might be
00:26:04.840
looking at a study from UC Davis, which showed that for some young men, the risk from the vaccine is
00:26:10.740
actually greater than the risk from the virus itself. Study came out not that long ago. He might
00:26:16.020
be looking at the many widely acknowledged side effects from the vaccine. The side effects that
00:26:20.980
we're told occur in rare cases, but don't forget the risk to young, healthy people from the
00:26:25.620
coronavirus is also quite low. Risks from the vaccine like myocarditis, pericarditis, nerve damage,
00:26:32.800
blood clots. We've seen these. These are real. They have been acknowledged by the CDC and the FDA.
00:26:38.000
Maybe Kyrie is making a prudential judgment here, and he's going to pay the price for that. He is
00:26:42.820
going to be benched in the prime of his career, making a lot, a lot of money. He's going to stop
00:26:46.900
making all of that money. He's going to stop getting to do the thing that he's best known for,
00:26:52.500
that he's flourishing in, that he really loves to do. He's making a real sacrifice. That's pretty
00:26:59.360
admirable. And when people make these kinds of sacrifices, the truth has a funny way of getting
00:27:06.000
out. The truth has a funny way of getting out. So Crowder right now, because he was reading our
00:27:12.820
story on Loudoun County, now his channel's down. But you know what? The establishment media have to
00:27:19.660
pick up the story. This was a pretty shocking thing. I saw it yesterday. Loudoun County student
00:27:25.880
accused in sexual assault at two county schools, sparking outrage from parents. That's in the
00:27:29.320
Washington Post. This, I think, is the first time that reporting has gone in this direction. Usually
00:27:35.480
what happens is the left-wing media investigate and report on stories, and then the right-wing media
00:27:40.840
read those stories, try to take out the BS, and try to tell you what actually happened based on the
00:27:45.460
investigative work of the left-wing outlets. Because investigative journalism is very expensive,
00:27:49.680
and it requires a big ecosystem, and conservatives, until very recently, haven't really had it.
00:27:55.380
So that's usually the direction it goes in. In this case, Daily Wire broke the story,
00:28:00.160
and the Washington Post had to pick it up. And they won't give us credit for it, and they won't even
00:28:03.500
acknowledge us. But what this means is that, at least in some cases, it is now conservatives who are
00:28:09.500
setting the news cycle. It's conservatives who are setting the agenda. This is just one story. How
00:28:16.700
many other stories are there like this? When you're seeing these protests right now at the Loudoun
00:28:21.880
County School Board, just the other day, more than 60 concerned parents, students, and residents spoke
00:28:28.420
up at the school board meeting, many demanding the resignation of the superintendent, Scott Ziegler,
00:28:33.840
in the wake of allegations that he and the school district covered up sexual assaults.
00:28:38.980
Now, Ziegler said over the summer in a meeting that this school district did not have, quote,
00:28:45.320
any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms. And it turns out that that was not true.
00:28:49.900
This guy should go down. He should lose his job. He might be a nice guy. If he was lying,
00:28:54.520
he obviously wasn't a particularly nice guy. Doesn't matter. The fact that these parents are showing up
00:28:58.900
and demanding that these people get fired, that is a good thing. That is the first step back
00:29:03.180
into reasserting some kind of political power. This is the way to do it, okay?
00:29:07.500
In our desiccated culture, we are told that compassion is when you go really soft and you're
00:29:14.600
just really nice and you don't rock the boat and you just go along to get along. And that's
00:29:19.520
compassion, right? No. Sometimes compassion means you got to be tough. Sometimes compassion means
00:29:24.700
you got to pick a side. There's a story that very few people are reporting on that I think actually
00:29:31.340
That's a story over in the United Kingdom and it has to do with churches.
00:29:38.520
Michael Nazir Ali, I might be mispronouncing that. He's the former bishop of Rochester. He's one of
00:29:42.900
the best known Anglican clerics in the world. He's reportedly about to be ordained a Catholic priest.
00:29:48.700
He's converting from the Church of England to Catholicism. And because of that, he was a bishop,
00:29:54.220
but he can't be a bishop in the Catholic Church. He's married. It wouldn't work out all that well.
00:30:00.040
So he's taking, I think, a promotion, obviously, in the church that he's now going to be a member of.
00:30:05.820
But he's taking a demotion in terms of his role in that church.
00:30:10.620
The reason I bring this up is not even to make a religious point. It's to show that this is a deeper
00:30:15.200
representation of a phenomenon that we are seeing in politics.
00:30:19.760
Namely, distinctions are becoming clearer, okay? People are not really standing in the middle of
00:30:25.800
the road anymore. If you stand in the middle of the road, you're going to get hit by a truck.
00:30:28.940
The Church of England, especially in recent decades, has really fallen and they've embraced all the
00:30:34.620
wokest, most radical left-wing trappings of the world. And they seem to have really, really,
00:30:41.980
really lost their way. And people have tried, they've always viewed the Church of England as a kind
00:30:47.640
of middle ground between the low church of evangelicalism and the high church of Catholicism.
00:30:53.480
They want to have a sort of middle way. But there is no real middle way here, okay?
00:30:59.320
You've got to pick a side, okay? So regardless of your views of these religious questions,
00:31:03.660
we're seeing this play out at every aspect of the politics and of the culture. And clarity can be a
00:31:10.020
very good thing. It can lead to a little tough road, a little bit of a bumpy road in the meantime.
00:31:15.800
And we're seeing that throughout our economy, our political system, and our spiritual life,
00:31:19.780
frankly. But that clarity can be a very good thing. Clarity is, obviously, it helps you see,
00:31:26.860
it helps you sanitize your culture. Hopefully, it gives us a path forward.
00:31:30.360
We've got to get to the mailbag, my absolute favorite time of the week.
00:31:38.720
Michael, I've heard your stance on dating in high school. As a high schooler who listens to you,
00:31:45.940
I would like to ask, what is the point of a high school relationship? You're most likely not going
00:31:50.680
to get married. So what is the point? Well, I think you ought to write this question to my wife,
00:31:57.140
who also happens to have been my high school sweetheart, James. You're telling, maybe you should
00:32:02.320
write this question into my grandparents, who also happen to have been high school sweethearts,
00:32:07.980
James. I think people can. You know, I've joked about this on the show before, but I said my wife
00:32:11.720
and I dated in high school. Then we split up for college, which I think is now a statutory requirement
00:32:16.900
in our modern culture. And then we realized that was crazy, and we shouldn't have broken up
00:32:20.460
after high school. And, you know, we got back together. Then we got married. Now we have our cute
00:32:25.420
little child. And so I think actually dating in high school can be a very good thing. It obviously
00:32:32.720
can lead to marriage. It can lead to bad marriages, but some of the best marriages I've ever seen
00:32:37.840
have been between high school sweethearts. And the reason for this is the way that we look at marriage
00:32:44.260
today is that marriage is something you do once you've really completely grown up and you've done
00:32:51.080
everything you want to do and you've traveled all the places you want to go and you've slept with all
00:32:54.140
the people you want to sleep with and you've had all the fun, wild, crazy experiences that you wanted
00:32:58.760
to have. And now you just need someone to settle down your life and you're going to have a partnership
00:33:04.440
and you're going to, you know, produce a child together and you're going to agree on these
00:33:09.660
certain things and check a bunch of boxes. I don't think that's really how it works. I asked my
00:33:15.100
grandfather on, I think it was the occasion of his 60th wedding anniversary. I said, how do you have a
00:33:21.060
good marriage? You know, you guys have the greatest marriage I've ever seen. How, how did you do it?
00:33:25.040
He said, well, patience is very important. Shared experience is very important going all the way
00:33:31.980
back, you know, to those early, early days. And in his case, because he was a Navy captain, frequent
00:33:37.340
absence. He said that doesn't hurt either, but certainly we can agree on the first two. And that
00:33:42.960
shared experience thing is very important because in some cases people will grow apart. If they have a
00:33:48.020
bad marriage, they're probably going to grow apart, but also you can grow together. My wife and I do
00:33:53.540
not think the same things that we thought or view the world in the same way that we did when we were
00:33:57.960
in high school. And we, it's not that we even viewed the world exactly in the same way as each
00:34:03.680
other when we were in high school, but we have grown together. We, so we, we now have this kind of
00:34:09.520
different view and that, that view every single minute more and more resembles the way that she and I
00:34:15.740
see the world together. So I think that is important. I'm not, I think the, what you're
00:34:21.660
getting at in your question here is you're saying, why, why should, why are people screwing around in
00:34:24.720
high school? That's not a good idea. They shouldn't do that. Yeah. You people should, you know, probably
00:34:27.760
not make the mistakes of youth and probably many of them are going to make the mistakes of youth and
00:34:32.360
you know, they shouldn't get carried away and do, do sorts of bad things. But I think dating in high
00:34:36.580
school can be a very, very wonderful thing. I'm living evidence of that.
00:34:40.560
Next question up from Adam. Dear Mr. Knowles, as you are Italian, I have a few questions for you.
00:34:50.620
What is your favorite pasta? Favorite Italian dish and what is and isn't acceptable on pizza? And what
00:34:57.420
is pineapple? Why is pineapple not allowed on pizza? Thank you for everything you do. I really enjoyed
00:35:01.260
Speechless. My favorite pasta dish would be my wife's, speaking of my wife, would be my wife's
00:35:05.460
lasagna, which is a fresh homemade lasagna with the homemade pasta itself. You know, you'd do it in
00:35:11.880
the little grinder thing and it has a nice pork kind of ragu and then it's, but it's got a nice
00:35:18.240
bechamel and it's just, it's absolutely delicious. What is my favorite Italian dish more broadly? I
00:35:24.740
don't know, veal saltimbocca maybe. What is, oh, and why is pineapple not allowed on pizza? Because it's
00:35:31.200
gross and weird and, you know, I don't, I don't think, uh, Christopher Columbus never had it.
00:35:37.000
Marco Polo never had it. Okay. It's, it's weird. It's not good. The, the impulse to put pineapple
00:35:41.780
on pizza is that you want a little sweet and a little savory, right? That's, that's why it goes
00:35:45.860
with ham on pizza. But that is very de classe, my friends. Now, if you want the sweet and the savory
00:35:52.920
on the pizza, you need to order the greatest pizza toppings, which is sausage and onion. The sausage is
00:35:59.980
better than the ham. The onion, much better than the pineapple. Both a little subtler in the way
00:36:05.280
they play with those flavors and very, very delicious. Thank you for enjoying Speechless.
00:36:08.780
From Mike. Hello, fellow Michael. I wanted to ask you why you think most people in Hollywood are libs.
00:36:14.240
Are they selling their soul to the devil, living in fun now, but damned to eternal damnation? Why is
00:36:19.240
it so disproportionately liberal? Sincerely, a fellow COVID-19 survivor. Yes, yes, in part to your
00:36:27.440
suggestions. People who work in the arts tend to be a little unsettled, tend to be a little bit
00:36:33.700
kooky and eccentric. And so that, I guess, would allow them to, or impel them to be a little more
00:36:40.200
liberal. But there's a really practical reason as to why Hollywood itself is so liberal. It's
00:36:46.040
actually, it has to do with the Supreme Court. In the old days, there was something called the
00:36:49.660
studio system. During the studio system, actors and actresses and people working on movies had real
00:36:55.660
jobs. And so they would sign a contract and they'd sign a contract with a studio and they would just
00:37:00.600
make movies with the studio and they'd get a regular sort of salary and regular compensation.
00:37:05.780
And they could look forward to the kind of work that they were going to do. And they actually
00:37:09.060
worked for a company. The Supreme Court struck that down. And in the middle of the 20th century,
00:37:14.040
the Supreme Court strikes down the studio system, says it's got all these various problems. And so then
00:37:18.940
everyone became a freelancer. And freelancers are nuts. I mean, I remember this. I have worked in
00:37:23.660
Hollywood to varying degrees over the years. And if you've ever met an actor or someone working in
00:37:28.920
the arts, you know, their schedules are all over the place. In some ways, I guess it's a return to the
00:37:35.580
more natural state of artists. I'm thinking of Pinocchio. You know, high diddle-dee-dee,
00:37:41.600
the actor life for me. High diddle-dee-doo, you sleep till after two. You know, you're staying up
00:37:46.000
really late. You're sleeping in. You're going to work on Tuesday, but not work on Thursday. And
00:37:50.920
that kind of tumultuous life leads people into a more liberal lifestyle because it's just not
00:37:56.200
as settled, certainly not as disciplined, and it can allow your passions to run away with you.
00:38:03.140
From Sarah, Michael, I want to get your opinion on a few things. All right, well, I've got my opinion
00:38:07.600
to give Sarah. One, as a religious person, what level of language, violence, sex is acceptable
00:38:12.400
to consume in a movie? I'll take these one by one. I think that any degree, just about, can be
00:38:19.940
acceptable, depending on the context. So, for instance, the Bible includes lots of pretty
00:38:27.740
gory, raunchy stuff. Mass slaughter, incest, lots of yucky things, lots of very bad things.
00:38:38.360
You know, ritualistic killing, the passion, for goodness sakes, you know. So, in the context of
00:38:46.540
the Bible, it's obviously not pornography. It's serving a very important purpose, the most important
00:38:51.760
narrative purpose that there could be. Namely, leading toward your salvation. So, there, I think
00:38:57.900
it's fine. But there are movies and TV shows that include much lower levels of raunchiness and sex
00:39:03.520
and gore and violence and things like that, that I think are not acceptable because they do not serve
00:39:08.280
a purpose and they're just merely titillating or just merely shocking and they're basically just
00:39:12.560
pornography. There is actually a difference here between obscenity and real art. And as Justice
00:39:18.200
Potter Stewart famously put it, although he is derided for it, you actually can know it when you
00:39:22.940
see it. Second question you ask, what level of those elements would be acceptable to take part in
00:39:27.240
if you were acting in it? This is a tricky question. I used to think that anything was acceptable.
00:39:32.940
You know, you're an actor. That's your job. So, you're going to kiss someone, sleep with someone.
00:39:36.100
That's no big deal. That's just your job and don't worry about it. But it is, I've actually rethought
00:39:40.760
this view because the way that acting is taught these days and the way that actors are trained
00:39:44.680
for the past hundred years or so is in systems that were derived from Freud and then kind of
00:39:51.360
systematized by the Stanislavski system, the Stanislavski school at the Moscow Art Theater and
00:39:57.140
then developed by Lee Strasberg into The Method or by Stella Adler into her technique or Sanford Meisner
00:40:02.940
or the various people associated with the group theater. But it all comes from the unconscious.
00:40:06.740
So, the idea is, if you want to put on a good performance and pretend that you are, you know,
00:40:12.180
pretend, right, play act that you're in love with this person on screen, that the best way to do that
00:40:16.920
is to actually sort of fall in love with the person. Because then you're not just making these
00:40:20.900
conscious representational kinds of choices as an actor on screen, but you're actually behaving
00:40:25.840
organically, right? This is the buzzword in modern acting. But if you are doing that, if you're really
00:40:31.040
acting organically, then you really have fallen in love with someone. And in that way, it is sort of a
00:40:35.820
betrayal. And so, my friend Drew Clavin very often would remind me, especially back in my actor
00:40:41.840
days, that actors historically are associated with criminals and prostitutes. It's a little bit of a
00:40:47.460
writer dig at the actors. But there is something to that. I mean, you are playing a dangerous game.
00:40:53.940
So that, I don't know. If I hadn't hung up my spurs, I don't know if I would still feel comfortable
00:40:58.400
doing that. And three, who would be the worst Daily Wire personality if they booked a role in one of
00:41:02.980
these new movies? Well, I'll give you the real answer, and he would agree with this 100%, is Ben.
00:41:07.700
Ben can't act. Ben can barely keep a straight face if we're doing a 10-second video shoot. And I suspect
00:41:15.100
his answer to this would be, yeah, because I don't want to play pretend, okay? Facts don't care about
00:41:19.280
my feelings, okay? I just want to give you the straight facts, and I'm not going to do that.
00:41:23.060
And it is really one of his strengths. But as a result, yeah, he's not the best actor.
00:41:27.200
From Lindsay. Michael, I had a rough go in the dating world as of late. I would love to hear
00:41:33.200
your advice on dealing with being led on. I was recently talking to a guy and thought things
00:41:37.660
were going well. He said a lot of things to me that suggested he was interested in something
00:41:41.340
long-term, but then ghosted me. We had plans to see each other again, but haven't heard back
00:41:45.620
from my last text about plan details. I don't want to double text again, but can't understand what
00:41:50.620
happened and know that it'll bother me for a while. My friend says I should let it go, and that if I move on,
00:41:55.160
guys like this always come back after you no longer want them. Would love to hear your advice
00:41:59.780
on what to do when this happens, or any insight you might have as to why it does. Sincerely,
00:42:03.600
apparently the ghosts have come out early this year. Great sign-off. Well, you've contradicted
00:42:09.460
yourself here. You've said, look, maybe I'll move on, and the best part about moving on is he might
00:42:15.020
come back to me. Well, then you haven't moved on. If you're waiting for him to come back to you,
00:42:17.660
then you obviously haven't moved on, so it hasn't worked. Yes, do men get more attracted when you
00:42:23.580
don't, you know, throw yourself at them. Yes, of course, that certainly happens. So if you're
00:42:29.140
doing this as a tactic to try to entice this guy to like you more, then tactically, I suppose that
00:42:33.760
would probably work. But I would just be direct. I'm a big fan of directness in these sorts of
00:42:38.540
things. If the guy is not interested, he should tell you that. He should not lead you on. Certainly,
00:42:43.540
you shouldn't ghost people. That's not nice. So I would just say, like, hey, buddy, look, I had a nice
00:42:49.620
time. But if you're not into it, that's cool. It's no big deal. But just let me know. And no hard
00:42:55.860
feelings. I would not allow a man to remain in this squishy kind of middle ground. Because one
00:43:03.800
suspects what he's doing is just kind of playing his field, checking out his other options, but he
00:43:07.380
wants to keep you in the back pocket in case it doesn't work out. And I would not let him do that.
00:43:11.180
I mean, that's not much of a man. A man should be decisive and should follow through on his
00:43:16.220
decisions. Wish you the best of luck, Lindsay. The guy sounds like a jerk. So frankly, if I were
00:43:20.400
you, I'd probably ghost him. But if you want closure, I would send him a text. From Arun.
00:43:24.300
Hello, Arun. Dear Dr. Kofefe, you've regularly discussed your thesis that the left wishes for
00:43:29.760
the appearance of the thing rather than the actual thing. This is true. This is why libs drink, you
00:43:34.800
know, decaf coffee or whatever. This is why the libs call relationships that are not marriage,
00:43:41.900
marriage. Because they want the appearance of the marriage, but they don't want to actually do the
00:43:45.760
things that, or they're not willing to do the things that are actually involved in marriage.
00:43:49.820
This is exactly how I feel about your impression of Dr. Fauci. I could listen to your approximation
00:43:54.240
of his voice for hours, but to hear him speak for even a moment about his love of tyranny is
00:43:59.180
infuriating and insufferable. Does that make me a leftist? No, it means you have common sense,
00:44:04.180
my friend. Because when I do the impression of Dr. Fauci, you know, the Dr. Fauci impression is not
00:44:10.300
going to harm you. It's not. The Dr. Fauci may harm you and take away your liberties and your way of
00:44:15.020
life. But the Dr. Fauci impression probably will not. Final little bit here from Brandon Michael.
00:44:21.760
I'd like to take a snapshot of the Let's Go Branded movement right now and save it as the
00:44:26.340
slogan for my political campaign in 2032 against my future party rival, Knowles 2032, the authoritarian
00:44:33.140
moment. Yes, these are both very important slogans. It's tough because I, you know, obviously agree with
00:44:39.860
both of them and strongly support both of them. There's more to Brandon's question. We're going to have to
00:44:44.280
save that for next week. I'm going to try to get this back in the mailbag next week, okay? Because
00:44:48.060
I don't want to leave Brandon here. Look, we're all very supportive of Brandon. Let's go, Brandon.
00:45:00.500
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Hey everybody, this is Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show. You know, some people are
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depressed because the republic is collapsing, the end of days is approaching, and the moon's turned
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to blood. But on The Andrew Klavan Show, that's where the fun just gets started. So come on over to
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The Andrew Klavan Show and laugh your way through the fall of the republic with me, Andrew Klavan.