Ep. 87 - Racism And Our Sh**hole Culture
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During a private bipartisan meeting, Democrats allege President Trump called Haiti a not very nice place to live. Now everybody is calling him a racist. Then Christopher Helley and Alicia Krauss join the panel of deplorables to discuss creepy male feminists, Aziz Ansari, Senator Romney, and the new most popular name in the Netherlands.
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During a private bipartisan meeting, Democrats allege President Trump called Haiti a
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not very nice place to live. Now everybody is calling him a racist. We'll analyze the claim,
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the facts, and racism in our not very nice culture. Then Christopher Helley and Alicia
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Krauss join the panel of deplorables to discuss creepy male feminist, Aziz Ansari,
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Senator Romney, and the new most popular name in the Netherlands,
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and it's Mohammed. I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
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ready for that. So much to get to on our not very nice culture, so let's dive right in. Democrat Dick
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Durbin claims Trump called Haiti a not very nice place to live during a private bipartisan meeting
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on immigration. Now, Republicans David Perdue and Tom Cotton say no, that never happened. Moderate
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Lindsey Graham says maybe it happened or it sort of happened. Quite interesting. The participants'
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recollection of the wording breaks down precisely along ideological lines, all the way along that
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spectrum. So did President Trump say that Haiti is not a very nice place to live during a private
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meeting? My first reaction is that this does not in any way expand or abridge my liberty. Not in any way.
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It doesn't affect American interests. It doesn't have anything to do with American governance. So I don't
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really care what the president thinks about whether Haiti is a not very nice place to live. I certainly
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would not imperil what has been a highly effective pro-freedom agenda over whatever comments he did
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or did not make in a private meeting. But we're interested in intellectual curiosity here. So let's
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examine the question. Is Haiti a not very nice place to live? Here are some statistics. 80% of Haitians
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live on less than $2 a day. One in four Haitians lives on less than $1.25 per day. Global remittances to
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Haiti. That's $2.3 billion, of which the United States sends more than half. That constitutes
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over a quarter of Haiti's total GDP. A quarter of their GDP is just people sending them charity
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money. The Haitian unemployment rate is 50%. Despite widespread agriculture, Haiti has to import
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half of its nation's food and 80% of its staple food, rice. That's because just 10% of Haiti's crops
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are actually irrigated. Half of Haitian children do not attend school. Haiti's literacy rate is only
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64%, which is lower even than the Caribbean average. 30% of Haiti's population regularly
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starves. Infant mortality is a staggering 55 per thousand live births. Less than half of Haitian
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households have access to potable water. Just a quarter of households have adequate sanitation.
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Crime is rampant. Reliable statistics obviously are hard to come by there. One study showed an annual
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murder rate of 120 people per 100,000 residents. And then another study showed an annual murder rate in
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just Port-au-Prince of 730 people per 100,000 residents. Rape is rampant. 14% of Haitian households
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have reported having at least one member suffer sexual violence. Haitian children are regularly
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traded throughout the country for sexual slavery. Desperate mothers regularly feed their children
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mud. Cookies made from dirt, water, and salt just to fill their bellies when the food runs out.
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Life in Haiti is a living hell. Obviously, that's why Americans send so many Christian missionaries
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to that country. That's why the Clintons were able to siphon off and misuse millions of dollars
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of Haitian relief donations for God knows what purpose. Americans pour charitable funds and efforts
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into Haiti because the country is not a very nice place to live. No one until Democrats found it
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convenient has ever questioned that idea. How about the charge that America needs more immigrants
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from prosperous countries than not very nice countries? The left and anti-Trump Republicans
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are calling the comments racist. Are they? Let's look at the data. So on the one hand,
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high school graduation rates for Haitian immigrants are actually slightly higher than the foreign-born
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population average in the United States. Same with labor participation. Haitian immigrant household
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income is lower than the average for the overall foreign-born population. 91% of Haitians who have
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obtained lawful permanent resident status did so through chain migration. That's where you come
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and then you get your family and then they get somebody and then you get other people. Virtually
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none of the Haitians in America got status through employee green cards or visa lotteries.
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Remittances to Haiti have increased fourfold since 2000. They now reach $1.3 billion a year.
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So in relation to other immigrant groups, that's a mixed bag. But we're forgetting an important
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thing. Donald Trump won the presidency in no small part on curbing the influx of immigrants,
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legal and illegal, on prioritizing Americans who are already here over open borders policies favored
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by the GOP establishment and Democrats. Compared to native-born populations in America, Haitian immigrants
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are well over twice as likely not to graduate from high school. They're almost twice as likely to live in
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poverty. They're two and a half times as likely to lack health insurance for their children.
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And they're two and a quarter times as likely to be on a major welfare program.
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Now even putting aside that these comments are alleged that Haiti is a not very nice place to
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live, that they're alleged by a top-ranking Democrat and that they're disputed by Republicans in the room,
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even putting aside that they were said during a private meeting, let's just indulge the hypothetical
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that he did say them. Would it be nicer? Would it be more elegant? Would it be more couth to phrase
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the comment another way rather than use such blunt and insulting language to an ally of the United
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States, albeit an impoverished one? Of course. Of course it would. Would Ronald Reagan have phrased
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it differently? Of course he would have. But we live in a not very nice culture, to use a phrase. I'm
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sure there are other words you could use. That isn't Donald Trump's fault. Trump may be a product of the
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culture. His language may be a symptom of that culture. But he didn't cause it. Ronald Reagan was the product of the
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golden age of Hollywood. Donald Trump is a product of 90s tabloids and reality television. Do you behave
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within the same bounds that dictated personal morality in the early 20th century? Do you? Do you dress
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appropriately and formally? Do you speak politely? Do you attend church and act chivalrously, etc., etc.?
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Of course you don't. A lot of people are blaming Trump for our not very nice culture because it's too painful to
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look at the real culprit staring back at us in the mirror. As for racism, for the decline in race
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Okay, let's get back to this. On racism, on the decline of race relations, let's compare Donald
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Trump and his predecessor. So according to a New York Times CBS News poll, by the end of the Obama
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presidency, race relations fell to the lowest point they had been since the 1992 LA riots,
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quarter century before, with 69% of Americans perceiving race relations as generally bad.
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According to a CNN ORC poll, 54% of Americans think race relations worsened specifically under
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Barack Obama, including 57% of whites and 40% of blacks. In 2009, this was the first instance of
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this. Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates tried to force his way into his own front door. I guess
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he'd forgotten his keys. Confused neighbors called the police. Two officers showed up, one of whom was
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black, and asked for ID. Gates descended into hysterics, screaming, quote, this is what it means to be black in
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America. Do you even know how many graduate degrees I have? Do you know who you're dealing
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with here? I'm a professor at Harvard. Can you even spell Harvard? That's what I'm assuming. That's
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what he said, you know. The officers arrested Gates on charges of disorderly conduct. How did
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Obama respond? Well, I should say at the outset that Skip Gates is a friend, so I may be a little biased
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here. I don't know all the facts. What's been reported, though, is that the guy forgot his keys,
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jimmied his way to get into the house. There was a report called into the police station that there might be a
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burglary taking place. So far, so good. Right? I mean, if I was trying to jigger in a — well,
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I guess this is my house now, so it probably wouldn't happen. But let's say my old house in Chicago — here
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I'd get shot. Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race
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gets played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry. Number
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two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof
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that they were in their own home. And number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this
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incident is that there is a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being
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stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. There it is. There's the Obama doctrine. Listen,
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I may not know a single thing about the case here, but let me weigh in because it offers me a political
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advantage. The Obama MO, frequently wrong but never in doubt. Then fast forward a few years. In 2012,
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the Hispanic man that the New York Times desperately tried to call a white guy named George Zimmerman
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called the police, reporting that a young man who appeared to be on drugs was wandering around his
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neighborhood. The cops instructed him to stand down, but Zimmerman pursued him anyway. The initial
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confrontation remains a mystery, but all of the available evidence supports Zimmerman's claim that
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at some point, Martin knocked him to the ground, jumped on top of him, and pounded his head into the
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pavement. Zimmerman grabbed his gun and shot Martin. Obama, of course, could not help but
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weigh in on the local crime issue, and here's how he responded. But my main message is to the parents
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of Trayvon Martin. You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. If I had a son, he'd look like
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Trayvon. Totally needless, senseless fuel on the flames of racial division, but that's Barack Obama.
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That's our not very nice culture, and it isn't totally Barack Obama's fault either. He spent eight
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years degrading the culture, sure, but by the time Obama had come around, the left had spent decades
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sowing the seeds of division, decay, and victimhood. Enter Barack Obama, then enter Donald Trump. Our
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culture is a not very nice place, and we can't look to politicians to fix it. That's not what politicians
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do. Put not your trust in princes. To quote a true cultural figure, and coincidentally a guy who was
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both black and white at various times in his life, no message could have been any clearer. If you want to
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make the world a better place, take a look at yourself, and then make a change. Good advice
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from an actual cultural figure. Okay, let's bring on our panel. We've got Daily Wire's own
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Alicia Krauss. So the question is, should we care about this Haiti thing? You know, did he say it?
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Did he not? Some people say he said it. Some say he didn't say it. If he did say it, is it a big deal?
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Should we be hand-wringing and pulling out our hair? Or he's cutting the government. Let him do it.
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It doesn't affect my freedom. Adios. I think if he wants to win a re-election,
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he needs to definitely be cutting back on the idiotic comments, especially when he's in mixed
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company. I mean, let's be honest. How dumb do you have to be to say something like this? One.
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And then two, say it in front of Chuck Schumer and Dick Durbin and a Washington Post reporter.
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It was so dumb to say. I think if you get to the crux of the issue, it is a tacky thing to say. I think
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it's something that should have been clarified or needs to be clarified. But I'm one of those people
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that even if he's saying dumb things, actions speak louder than words. And if you want to go
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and talk about immigration policy and who was more heartfelt on it or not, I mean,
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there's lots of things that Obama did during his administration that could be viewed as anti-immigrant.
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That's absolutely right. That is a real comparison here because, you know, Trump got so much flack
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for the travel ban, for instance. The travel ban was an expansion of an Obama-era policy. You didn't
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hear people saying this was the end of the constitutional republic during Barack Obama. And there is,
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even if the statement is true, I don't know. I don't trust Dick Durbin. But that said,
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both sides are flacking for their own party. So who knows if he said it. But I just don't care if
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he said it. I don't care if a Queens real estate developer made an uncouth remark in a private
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meeting. It doesn't. Except that Queens real estate developer is the president of the United States
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now. And he has to understand. And I'm thinking re-election here. I'm thinking 2018 midterm
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elections for Republicans could be tough. And he's not making it any easier. And I know he likes to
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punch at the Republicans and some people that he has establishment, which some of them are that he
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attacks and some of them are not. But if he wants his side to win, and if he actually wants to promote
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those things that you're talking about, that's going to make America great again, then he needs to be
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very careful what he says and how he says it. But I don't know. I certainly would have agreed with
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you a year and a half ago. But I'm not sure. The one thing this guy hasn't been is careful with his
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language. He's been exactly the opposite of careful with his language. Yeah, and he hasn't had to face
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an election. And there is an election that he lost in Alabama, which wasn't good for him. But the other
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guy that had been to decide for that year, out of a year and a half, ended up losing too. So good
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job, Stephen and Donald. Both of their candidates lost. And that's not a good sign in addition to the
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polling that you're seeing. I mean, you and I both worked on campaigns. We're the political
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nerds and the news junkies that have actually worked on and run political campaigns before.
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And you know that voter turnout in off years can really negatively affect Republican voters. It
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can affect both parties, and Republicans tend to get out more. But if Trump keeps saying things like
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this, and if there's more Trump-like candidates kind of saying things like this, I think you're
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jeopardizing potential Republican voters that aren't just going to go out and vote during the
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midterms. You might. The question is, do they care about these private comments? In the past,
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I would have said yes. Now I'm a little more skeptical. So we'll move on to some of the news
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It's just you and me today. We've lost Christopher. We'll bring him back some other time. That's
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always, uh, always good to talk to him. So this topic is important. We've got a lot of women's
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issues today. Aziz Ansari is being accused of sexual impropriety. For reference, here is the
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comedian Aziz Ansari. Talk about the relationship. My girlfriend has influence on me. She, uh, she's a
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big feminist. And, uh, you know, that made me think about those kind of issues. I'm a feminist as well.
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Any feminists here clapping? Any people? Now, here's the thing, okay? Now, there's a lot of
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people that didn't clap. But I don't believe you. Because if you look up feminists in the
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dictionary, it just means someone who believes men and women have equal rights. And I feel like
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everyone here believes men and women have equal rights. Yeah? But, yeah. But I think the reason
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people don't clap is that word so weirdly used in our culture. Now people think feminist
00:22:15.360
means, like, some woman's gonna start yelling at them. Like, Precious's mom is gonna start
00:22:20.320
throwing stuff at you. I feel like if you do believe that, if you believe that men and
00:22:23.900
women have equal rights, if someone asks if you're feminist, you have to say yes.
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You have to say yes. Doesn't matter what you do. Now, his accuser, his sexual, uh,
00:22:32.560
harassment accuser, writes, quote, the move he kept doing was taking his two fingers in
00:22:38.000
a V-shape and putting them in my mouth, in my throat to wet his fingers, because the moment
00:22:42.560
he'd stick his fingers in my throat, he'd go straight for my redacted and try to redacted
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me. That, that is, uh, from a woman who says she went on a date with him, he took her back
00:22:51.640
to her place and started getting real weird and handsy and chasing her around the room.
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I'm just, sorry, Mom. Every time I'm, I'm on Michael's show, he makes me talk about
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these things. I know. Maybe I'm the Me Too guy.
00:23:05.720
I know. Uh, I read the report. I'm actually a fan of Aziz, you know, going back to Parks
00:23:10.600
and Rec. I think Master of None, even though it's an obviously liberal show, it's very
00:23:14.400
entertaining and well-made. I mean, he even did episodes on this where he talked about
00:23:18.160
sexual harassment and, like, you know, I don't want to give it away to people that haven't
00:23:21.640
watched season two, but there's a whole theme there about how he misses out on a job
00:23:25.220
opportunity because somebody, you know, was Me Too-ing some women. And, and so it's so
00:23:29.340
interesting. This actually, I think, and Carol Markowitz at the New York Post had a great
00:23:33.100
tweet storm about this yesterday, and it's so true. This is actually what happens when
00:23:36.780
you tell women, hey, you're as sexually active and as, you know, turned on and you should
00:23:42.180
be like this because if we're equal to men, we should be able to have one night stands
00:23:45.960
with nothing attached to. And I think that that's what this was. I mean, there was an act
00:23:50.220
that occurred that she said she was okay with. Then she decided to stay the night. I
00:23:54.220
actually think it was at his hotel room after the Emmys last year. And then throughout the
00:23:58.960
night, he kept trying to get with her once again, and she was uncomfortable with it. And
00:24:03.520
when he texted her and said, hey, it was fun, which is totally like a guy that had been hooked
00:24:07.740
up with the night before would say, she said, well, I'm glad it was fun for you, but it wasn't
00:24:11.460
for me. He apologized for it. And then now a year later, she's coming out with this, you
00:24:16.660
know, story. This is not a Me Too story. This is not Harvey Weinstein blacklisting her. This
00:24:21.220
is not Harvey Weinstein raping her. This is, this is a bad, a hookup gone wrong that I think
00:24:25.900
now a year later, she's like, hmm, maybe it's a Me Too thing, but, but it's not.
00:24:30.520
Well, yeah, there is this climate of a witch hunt right now where anytime men act a little
00:24:36.060
weird or awkward or aggressive or bizarre around women, which is statistically 100% of
00:24:41.240
the time, then it's considered on par with Harvey Weinstein raping people. But he does,
00:24:45.760
he sums it up so well because you're right. There is this feminism thing of like, yeah, I'm going
00:24:49.860
to go out and get a man tonight as if that's ever been a hard thing ever once in history.
00:24:55.020
And so men go into this and they say, okay, we're exactly the same. Men and women approach
00:24:59.400
sex exactly the same way. So I'm going to. Because that's what they've been told by feminists
00:25:03.240
for so long. That's what they've been told for their whole lives. And so now, you know,
00:25:07.720
Aziz Ansari behaves as though this woman is a man and surprise, surprise, it turns out she's
00:25:13.000
actually a woman and doesn't react to sex the same way that men do. So what is the appropriate
00:25:19.040
conservative response to feminism? You know, feminism, he said, feminism just means that
00:25:24.740
you think men and women should have equal political rights. Of course, that isn't true. If that were
00:25:29.420
the case, it would be called egalitarianism. It wouldn't be called feminism, right? If feminism
00:25:33.800
clearly pertains specifically to, to womanhood and femininity, what should conservatives consider
00:25:39.920
as the, our version of feminism? I'm, I think it's there in the declaration of independence,
00:25:45.300
right? That, and then, then in my Christianity, that's something I was actually talking to my
00:25:49.780
four-year-old about yesterday. She was wondering why she had today off of school. And I was explaining
00:25:53.100
to her as much as I could in a four-year-old way who Martin Luther King Jr. was and what he taught
00:25:57.200
about and taught us. A conservative Christian. Yeah. Yeah. That, that, you know, the all men are created
00:26:02.860
equal sign with where our rights come from. And I think that that's the problem, whether it's first wave
00:26:07.960
or third wave feminism, is that they renege on that first part and they don't want to acknowledge
00:26:12.060
the first part of where their rights come from. And if you don't understand where rights come from,
00:26:15.700
then how are you supposed to teach your sons and daughters what is right and what is wrong? I don't
00:26:19.740
know if that's up for simplifying it, but. Oh, of course, that's good. There has to be a foundation
00:26:24.500
if we're going to have a serious way of dealing with the sexes. But there also is this little old
00:26:31.700
fashioned thing called chivalry that takes the opposite premise of feminism. The premise of feminism
00:26:37.020
feminism is that men and women are exactly the same. We're indiscernible. We're identical creatures
00:26:41.720
and there are no real meaningful differences between men and women. And then there's chivalry,
00:26:46.180
which says that men and women are complementary. We see this in the Christian story. We see this in
00:26:50.760
Genesis in the way Christ talks about male and female as complementing one another. And in the beginning,
00:26:57.720
God created man, both male and female. He created them. And chivalrousness, holding a door,
00:27:03.340
picking up a check or something, was for a long time in the 90s and 2000s considered
00:27:08.180
politically incorrect. It was paternalistic. It was condescending. Do you think that chivalry
00:27:13.700
is making a comeback or is that wishful thinking? I actually think that I would stand with a former
00:27:17.840
secretary of state, Condi Rice on this. She did an interview with David Axelrod at CNN recently,
00:27:22.540
and she talked about how she is afraid of women kind of becoming infantilized and unable to defend
00:27:28.220
ourselves. And I think she actually used the phrase snowflakes. She was like, let's not do that
00:27:32.460
to women. You know, women are strong. We are unique. And we don't want to create an atmosphere
00:27:37.000
where it's such a gotcha towards men that men end up not wanting women around because it turns out
00:27:42.000
that we do complement each other. There are things that women, sorry guys, can do better. And God created
00:27:46.980
all of us for a reason to make the world go round, quite literally. So, I mean, if we don't,
00:27:52.520
women don't have men, there will end up being no more mankind. That's just one of the basic
00:27:56.500
things that would occur. And I think that I, I think that there is a place for a mix of modern
00:28:01.340
day feminism with old fashioned chivalry, because I know in my work, I want to be judged, not just on
00:28:07.160
how I look, but what I bring to the table and my talents, not that I have a hoo-ha. And I think
00:28:11.560
that there is also an element of, I do like it when Michael Knowles apologizes for being rude and not
00:28:16.120
holding the door open for me. And so there is a balance and an understanding that, that the world has
00:28:22.140
to have of how men and women are similar and how men and women are different. But in those
00:28:27.000
differences, women can still be strong and powerful and beautiful. There's nothing wrong
00:28:30.600
with that. Right. Absolutely right. Okay. We have to move on because it's all but certain in political
00:28:34.880
news, Mitt Romney is running for Senate from Utah. Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts,
00:28:40.940
who then took up residence in New Hampshire before the 2012 primaries, has now changed his home residence
00:28:45.960
on Twitter to holiday Utah. Romney, you will recall, has been an outspoken critic of President Trump
00:28:51.940
since the 2016 primary campaign, saying his promises are worthless, though he later attempted
00:28:57.440
to reconcile when he was being considered for secretary of state. Alicia, this is a strange
00:29:02.760
situation. Republicans voted for Romney in 2012. He was our nominee. He was our guy. But even then we
00:29:08.720
knew he comes from the moderate wing of the party. His father is the former standard bearer of the
00:29:13.380
moderate wing of the Republican Party. How should conservatives feel about his candidacy?
00:29:17.800
I think that really it only matters to the conservatives of Utah. And I think if you're
00:29:21.460
the conservatives on a federal level like me, I mean, I'm stuck with two idiots here in California
00:29:25.420
serving as my senator. Right. So our senators. And so I would be happy with another stalwart like
00:29:31.220
Romney, Republican stalwart in the Senate. I know that he's going to really 95 percent of what the Trump
00:29:37.460
administration puts forward. I guarantee you Mitt Romney is going to vote the way that Trump would want him
00:29:42.060
to vote. I mean, he is. Yes, Romneycare was awful. Why we decided to go with the guy that actually had
00:29:47.940
Obamacare named after him before Obamacare came along was such a bad idea. But I think that Mitt
00:29:53.580
overall, he's just a gem of a human being. He is obviously connected with the people of Utah. I mean,
00:29:58.820
he's had a home there forever. The core, the home, I guess the HQ for his faith is there. And I really think
00:30:05.560
that he in the Senate is a bonus for the Senate. I think that they're really, it's a win-win here.
00:30:11.440
And I think even for those Trump supporters that view him as establishment, they're going to wait
00:30:15.600
and see that he is really, I think, going to be beneficial to President Trump. And he is good at
00:30:20.360
sussing out where the political winds are. And he's not a total rigid ideologue. He said when he ran
00:30:25.340
against Kennedy in Massachusetts, he said, I wasn't a conservative during Reagan Bush. I was an
00:30:30.560
independent during Reagan Bush. Fast forward to 2012, he was a pretty conservative guy. So I think
00:30:35.180
he can probably suss that out. But to your point, if he runs, is there any way he doesn't win this
00:30:39.560
seat? I don't think so. I think we might actually see 100% like on a ballot, you know, as the results
00:30:45.740
come in. That's right. I mean, who knows? Maybe it'll be 90%. I think that he definitely could win.
00:30:51.840
He should win. I think that Bannon might be running somewhere with the tail between his legs. But had
00:30:56.540
Bannon still been, if Bannon were still in the picture, I guarantee you this would be a race where
00:31:00.480
he'd come up with a crazy candidate to run against Mitt. Oh, it absolutely would be if he hadn't
00:31:04.700
just been crushed under the heel of Donald Trump two weeks ago. I don't really see Bannon staging
00:31:10.160
a comeback for this election. But who knows? Politics is weird. I don't know. It brings me
00:31:13.720
such joy to hear that phrase from you, though. The final story we have to talk about. The mainstream
00:31:20.200
media reported last week that Noah is the most popular baby name in the Netherlands. But after one
00:31:25.620
takes into account variations in spelling, turns out it's not Noah. That's the most common name.
00:31:30.100
The actual most common name for newborns in the European country is Mohammed. Alicia,
00:31:35.820
is it racist for the Dutch or the Swedes or the Polish or the English to want to keep their
00:31:40.740
countries primarily Dutch or Swedish or Polish or English?
00:31:45.000
I think yes. I mean, the way that you raise that question, I think that there is definitely,
00:31:51.300
if you are looking at race, if you're looking at ethnicity and determining this is how we're
00:31:55.260
going to let people in, this is how we're not going to let people in, then yes, I do think
00:31:58.580
that that is a problem, that that is racist. But I mean, if you look at Sweden and Norway versus
00:32:04.380
places like Finland that have a much stronger immigration policy, they said, we're not going
00:32:09.980
to be taking in people from just anywhere. We are going to strongly vet people. And then once
00:32:13.860
they're here, we're going to do this, this, and this to make sure that they are integrated
00:32:17.000
into our society. That I don't think is racist at all.
00:32:19.680
But what is, what are these countries? You know, for the United States, it is a country
00:32:24.340
in so many ways founded on an idea, a country founded on an idea in Plymouth, a country founded
00:32:30.280
on an idea in Philadelphia. And obviously it's founded by people, but they're people of various
00:32:35.760
ethnic groups and who bred with one another and intermarried. And so clearly America, to say America
00:32:43.180
as a country founded on an idea is certainly justifiable and is a long stream throughout
00:32:49.440
American history. Not so with England and not so with Italy or France. Those are countries
00:32:55.200
founded on people, founded on the angles, founded on groups of people that over the centuries
00:33:01.960
have either invaded or conquered or whatever. So it might be racist, but I don't know. Isn't
00:33:06.780
that the essence of their state? It's a state founded on a people. Should we really oppose
00:33:11.060
that? And it's a very good point. And I think it's a point that Democrats should be asked
00:33:14.040
about because Democrats and progressives in the United States typically look to Europe,
00:33:18.160
specifically, you know, more socialist Europe of, oh, this is what we should look like. You
00:33:23.360
know, we should have their healthcare. We should have their open borders immigration. We should
00:33:26.360
have all of these things. But I actually think the whole Meghan Merkel being engaged to Prince
00:33:30.380
Harry thing, it's going to start exposing that the United Kingdom and a lot of Europe is more
00:33:37.120
racist and actually implies and executes racism on a daily basis more than the whole of the United
00:33:43.380
States. I mean, Larry Elder, a friend of the Daily Wire, you know, has a great PragerU video on this
00:33:49.040
about is America still racist? And definitely in comparison to these other countries that,
00:33:54.040
like you said, were not founded on the ideas of freedom and liberty and individual principles
00:33:57.800
like the United States were. I think you're going to, in this day and age, in 2018, in the new year,
00:34:02.600
we're going to start seeing that stuff kind of trickle more out of those countries.
00:34:05.500
Of course, America is the only non-racist country ever founded in the history of the world.
00:34:09.780
And I'm perfectly fine with that. I am more than happy for the English to remain English and for
00:34:15.060
the Italians to remain Italian and for the Sicilians to remain Sicilian and for the Dutch to not have
00:34:21.060
Mohammed be the most common baby name. I'm more than happy for countries that are based on peoples
00:34:26.780
to have their own countries, for Middle Eastern countries to have their own peoples.
00:34:33.240
But I do like that America is a shining city on a hill and it's a country founded on an idea.
00:34:38.840
And this actually gets back to the essential Christianity of the West. Christianity is the
00:34:43.280
motivating force of the West. How should Protestants and Catholics alike, any Christian variety,
00:34:50.800
view this issue? You know, there is neither Jew nor Greek. There is neither slave nor free.
00:34:54.980
There is no male and female for you are all one in Christ Jesus. On the other hand, Muslims have tried
00:35:00.400
to invade the West for 1,400 years. Charles Martel turned them away in Tours in 732. In Tours, by the
00:35:07.340
way. That's not outside Medina. That's outside Paris. And Pope St. Pius V turned Muslim invaders
00:35:13.200
away at Lepanto in 1571. How should the Christian West regard our Muslim visitors in 2018?
00:35:20.940
Man, I'm sorry. I was just thinking of President Obama then talking about how the Crusades were so
00:35:26.520
awful and Christians still need to apologize for them. I know. I should send Obama a book about the
00:35:31.060
Crusades so he can learn anything about that work. You're giving that, you know, Islamic history lesson
00:35:36.580
there to me and your audience. I think that, I think, you know, the beautiful thing about Christianity
00:35:44.040
is that we know that anyone can be welcome into the fold and that that is their choice and their
00:35:48.720
right to make that decision because of the free will that God gave them. And I think that,
00:35:53.520
specifically, I think that overall, they're unfortunately now, if you watch CNN, if you
00:35:59.840
watch MSNBC, even sometimes if you watch Fox News, if you're the average viewer in another country
00:36:04.540
looking, what you see as what you view as Christian is sometimes spewing what some people would dub as
00:36:11.300
craziness or hate speech. But when you meet the individual Christians of the United States and you
00:36:15.720
talk to them about what they want and what they want to adhere to and what they want to protect here,
00:36:19.620
it isn't saying, oh no, we don't want Muslims here. It's just saying we want to protect, you know,
00:36:24.940
our rule of life, Western civilization, the Judeo-Christian values that the United States
00:36:28.820
was founded upon. And whether you're Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Catholic, Protestant, whatever,
00:36:34.500
if you want to adhere to those values too, you can. And I think that that's something that the
00:36:38.460
church needs to consider on a whole. Just, just stick to the gospel, keep the politics out of it,
00:36:42.600
please. That's right. You don't, you don't necessarily need to go to daily mass and wear a mantilla
00:36:46.700
and chant Gregorian chants, but you do have to accept certain premises. And if your culture
00:36:52.940
doesn't accept those essential premises of the West, you can't live here, buddy. Sorry. You just,
00:36:58.520
you have to, I know people don't want to be free, but you have to be free. You have to accept those
00:37:03.540
premises. Okay. Alicia, a wonderful panel to a surprisingly wonderful panel of all you. Yeah.
00:37:10.240
Great stuff. Thank you for being here. Now we must turn because it is Martin Luther King day. So I want
00:37:15.560
to close on some MLK. You'll notice the left always refers to the man as Dr. Martin Luther King,
00:37:20.700
even though he never carried a stethoscope. They never call him Reverend Martin Luther King,
00:37:25.500
even though he was a Baptist minister. So as always, the left's choice of wording is no accident.
00:37:31.620
Let's close the show today with Reverend King's most magnificent speech. I'm Michael Knowles. This
00:37:36.940
is the Michael Knowles Show. Come back tomorrow. We'll do it all again.
00:37:39.400
We've got some difficult days ahead, but it really doesn't matter with me now because I've been to
00:37:48.800
the mountaintop. I don't mind. Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity
00:38:02.660
has its place, but I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will.
00:38:13.660
And he has allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over and I've seen the promised land.
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I may not get there with you, but I want you to know the night that we as a people will get to the promised land.
00:38:40.760
So I'm happy tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man.
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Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.
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