The Michael Knowles Show - October 22, 2021


Ep. 870 - Is Woke America The Real Global Enemy?


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

179.71663

Word Count

8,562

Sentence Count

626

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

32


Summary

Dave Chappelle has been accused of being a racist and a misogynist by a bunch of lunatics for his comments about the WNBA and the transgender community. I explain why this matters and why it's not so bad.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 In recent years, the United States and our allies in Western Europe have peddled lots of far-left
00:00:05.840 causes onto the rest of the world, from climate change hysteria to transgender ideology to other
00:00:13.140 radical social movements. But it turns out the rest of the world, countries in Africa,
00:00:18.720 in Asia, and elsewhere, don't really like those leftist hobby horses all that much.
00:00:25.180 Increasingly, they're turning to our geopolitical adversaries, including China and Russia,
00:00:30.700 for help and leadership in stopping the tide of radicalism. All of which is leading American
00:00:36.600 conservatives to an unsettling question. Have we become the baddies? I'm Michael Knowles,
00:00:42.260 this is the Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from
00:00:52.140 MCL Black, who says, funny, the WNBA parade looks about like a Biden press conference.
00:01:00.060 No, that's not fair. It looks like a Biden campaign rally. At the press conferences,
00:01:04.840 at least there are usually some people there. They don't get any answers and Biden runs away.
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00:02:29.000 the show. They're going after Chappelle. They're going after Chappelle. I know this story broke about
00:02:34.760 a week ago and I just haven't had time to get to it. And, you know, left-wingers going after a
00:02:41.060 politically incorrect comedian. That's nothing new. That's not exactly a news story. But I think
00:02:45.780 it ties in with a lot of the other things we're seeing on the world stage now. Countries outside
00:02:51.720 of America and Western Europe are starting to push back against some of the radical, kooky,
00:02:56.760 lunatic ideologies that we are exporting, the woke ideologies that we are exporting to the rest of
00:03:02.360 the world. And Dave Chappelle just came under fire because he stood up against it. Initially,
00:03:09.080 the CEO of Netflix defended Dave Chappelle. Then he got a ton of backlash from lunatics,
00:03:17.440 many of whom worked at his own company. And now he's sort of apologizing for defending
00:03:22.860 Chappelle. So the first question, I actually haven't seen the Chappelle special yet. Not
00:03:26.600 because I don't want to. I like Chappelle well enough. I really like that he's got a little
00:03:29.960 tribute to Norm MacDonald at the end of it. I just, I just haven't had time. So I haven't watched.
00:03:33.740 I finally, I said, what did this guy say to lead to all of these protests? And it turns
00:03:39.320 out what Dave Chappelle said is that, is that, I can't, I can't believe we got to do another show
00:03:43.980 on it. He said that men are not women.
00:03:47.940 She said gender was a fact. And then the trans community got mad as shit. They started calling
00:03:55.000 her a turf. I didn't even know what the fuck that was. But I know that trans people make up words to
00:04:01.660 win arguments. So I looked it up. Turf is an acronym. Stands for trans exclusionary radical
00:04:13.540 feminist. This is a real thing. This is a group of women that hate transgender. They don't hate
00:04:19.260 transgender women, but they look at trans women the way we blacks might look at blackface. It
00:04:23.760 offends them like, Ooh, this is doing an impression of me. I'm team turf. I agree. I agree, man.
00:04:35.900 Gender is a fact. You have to look at it from a woman's perspective.
00:04:41.820 It's a fact. It's a simple statement. Dave Chappelle is not a right winger. He's not a conservative. I
00:04:47.500 don't think he's a Christian. He and I probably disagree on many, if not most things, but we do
00:04:54.320 agree on this. And this shouldn't be the shocking kumbaya moment that it has become. Until about five
00:05:01.620 minutes ago, everyone agreed that men are not women. And then starting, I don't know what, like 2017 or
00:05:07.260 something, the left in this country lost its mind and now pretends that men are women. But what's
00:05:13.480 interesting to me is not the argument Dave's making. We all know that that's true. What's
00:05:17.100 interesting is the reactions. The CEO comes out. He initially said, quote, while some employees
00:05:22.600 disagree, we have a strong belief that content on screen does not directly translate to real world
00:05:28.920 harm. I'm glad that he defended Chappelle. I'm glad he didn't at least initially give in to the kooks
00:05:38.360 and the lunatics at his own company protesting him. But what he said is not true. Conservatives
00:05:45.860 don't believe that that's true. He said, we don't believe that the content on screen translates to
00:05:50.940 real world harm. So what you're saying is you don't believe that cultural products have real world
00:05:57.360 implications, right? That's kind of the broader version of what this guy said. But that's not true.
00:06:04.000 For how long have conservatives said politics is downstream of culture? For how long have
00:06:08.340 conservatives said we need to take back Hollywood and take back the academy and take back the press
00:06:13.020 and take back the publishing? And how long have we said that? We say that because we believe that
00:06:18.740 cultural content does have real world implications. You know, this is parodied as this idea that in the
00:06:25.600 nineties, mothers were very concerned that kids would start shooting up schools because they played
00:06:30.640 violent video games. And the right was kind of split on this. Yes, the video games matter. No,
00:06:35.780 the video games don't matter. Oh, it's cool. You know, you see this with the debate with porn.
00:06:40.400 Well, just because kids are watching a ton of porn doesn't mean they're going to have disordered
00:06:43.300 sexual relationships. No, come on. But if you believe in any way that politics is downstream of
00:06:49.760 culture, or if you at least believe that culture kind of matters in politics, then surely
00:06:54.560 what this CEO of Netflix said is not true. So the lunatics protesting him knew that that was not
00:07:01.560 true. And they kept going after him, kept going after him. Now he says, I screwed up the internal
00:07:05.060 communication. I did that. I screwed it up in two ways. First and foremost, I should have led with a
00:07:09.380 lot more humanity. I had a group of employees who were definitely feeling pain and hurt from a
00:07:13.500 decision we made. And I think that needs to be acknowledged upfront before you get into the nuts
00:07:17.320 and bolts of anything. I didn't do that. And then he goes on to point out, yeah, there are real
00:07:20.560 world implications from cultural products. First of all, he led with humanity. Okay. What the left
00:07:25.480 is saying here that is not true is that it's inhumane and cruel to tell deluded men that they're
00:07:31.700 not really women. Okay. Their argument is that it's not nice and compassionate to tell people the
00:07:38.660 truth if they happen to be confused. And that's not true at all. It's actually very disrespectful and
00:07:42.640 cruel to lie to people. So what Dave Chappelle did and what the Netflix guy did, at least initially,
00:07:47.180 was very humane. It was very compassionate. It was very respectful to tell people the truth.
00:07:53.220 Now he's going squishy because that's what happens. There are three takes on the Chappelle
00:07:58.020 fiasco. I notice on a lot of news stories, there were three takes that one really can have. There's
00:08:05.500 the lib take, the far left, I'm sorry, the leftist take, which is that Dave Chappelle needs to be silenced
00:08:12.540 and shut up and Netflix should never have done this and they should delete the comedy special now.
00:08:16.500 Then there is the kind of lib libertarian take, which is Dave Chappelle has the right to say
00:08:23.800 whatever he damn well pleases. And how dare you squash free speech and engage in censorship?
00:08:30.440 He should be able to say whatever's on his mind. Then there is the conservative take,
00:08:35.960 which is that Dave Chappelle absolutely has the right to say true things. I don't think Dave Chappelle
00:08:42.540 has the right to say whatever he wants. I don't think Dave Chappelle has the right to threaten
00:08:46.300 people. I don't think Dave Chappelle has the right to engage in fighting words. I don't think
00:08:51.080 Dave Chappelle has the right to slander people. I don't think Dave Chappelle has the right to
00:08:55.760 engage in obscenity, to engage in obscene speech. He certainly doesn't have the right to do any of that
00:09:00.920 sort of stuff. He does have the right to say the truth and he did just tell the truth here and the
00:09:06.100 truth is that men are not women. So he has the right to do that. So the libertarians and the
00:09:12.560 conservatives are on the same page with regard to whether or not to take down the Dave Chappelle
00:09:16.560 special. But really the conservatives and the woke people are on the same page when it comes
00:09:22.460 to the observation that there are limits to speech. And what the woke people want to push
00:09:29.500 is they say that you have the right to say false things and you don't have the right to say true
00:09:34.120 things. And the conservatives say you have the right to say true things, but you don't necessarily have
00:09:38.320 the right to say false things. And the libertarians and the squishes in the middle refuse to distinguish
00:09:43.120 between true and false or good and bad or right and wrong. How has that worked out? We have taken
00:09:49.220 the libertarian squish approach for the last 30 or so years. How has that worked out? Not looking great
00:09:55.460 by my lights. The fact that we even have to debate this, the fact that this is even controversial
00:09:59.640 that men are not women, shows you that the squish libertarian approach has not worked.
00:10:05.080 So now you have two choices. You either go with the woke approach, which insists upon lies and bans
00:10:10.800 the truth, or you get the conservative approach, which insists upon the truth and is not so polite
00:10:15.900 to lies. And that requires us to have the conscience and the reason to be able to discern truth from
00:10:22.660 falsehood. And it requires us to have the intestinal and spinal and maybe some other kind of anatomical
00:10:29.640 fortitude to actually stand by the truth and enforce it. Dave Chappelle is a turf. He's a turf
00:10:36.500 because he said a thing that's true. You're seeing this right now on the right. It's not just me
00:10:43.740 pushing it. I may have been among the voices crying out in the wilderness
00:10:48.800 on this particular issue before, but I think now this is kind of the mainstream view and you're
00:10:54.720 seeing it playing out at the level of the governors and the senators. And the more willing
00:11:00.280 conservatives are to make a distinction between true and false and right and wrong and actually
00:11:04.700 wield government power, it seems the better positioned they are for 2024. If I asked you right
00:11:09.420 now, which governor at least is best positioned for the 2024 presidential race, it wouldn't take you
00:11:16.300 two seconds. It's Ron DeSantis. And it is no coincidence that Ron DeSantis right now in Florida
00:11:21.560 is not just reciting the same old shallow false platitudes from late 90s Republican pamphlets that
00:11:30.960 say that we should never use government power and we should just let rich woke people do whatever they
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00:13:02.960 I think the first or certainly one of the first states to reopen after the COVID lockdowns,
00:13:11.080 he gave businesses a lot of liability protection in order to do that, right? He said, look,
00:13:18.040 we're open for business in Florida, but you can't go around suing people if you catch COVID,
00:13:21.700 right? The businesses are open and the business owners really liked that, right? But now they're
00:13:27.400 getting some pushback from the woke people. They're getting some pushback from the Biden
00:13:30.800 administration. And so they are not willing to offer that same courtesy to their customers or to
00:13:38.580 their employees. Right now, there are businesses in Florida that are mandating that the employees
00:13:45.300 get these experimental drugs about COVID. And Ron DeSantis is using the government to punish
00:13:53.620 businesses and to disincentivize businesses from doing that.
00:13:58.020 What we're going to be doing, in addition to mounting aggressive legal challenges to federal
00:14:05.460 mandates, we're also going to be taking legislative action to add protections for people in the state
00:14:13.520 of Florida. And that's something that cannot wait until the regular legislative session next year.
00:14:19.080 It needs to happen soon. And so we will be calling the legislature back for a special session.
00:14:24.640 And we're going to be pursuing a number of protections for employees. First of all,
00:14:31.420 if you think about it, if anyone has been forced to do an injection and has an adverse reaction,
00:14:37.400 that business should be liable for that. Any damages, there's just, you have to do it because
00:14:42.940 that's on them. It wasn't an individual choice. Once again, there are three positions here. There's
00:14:48.540 the woke position, which is, yeah, let's, let's use OSHA and the federal government and the businesses
00:14:53.820 to make the businesses mandate that the employees get the vaccine, right? Yeah. Anything to inject
00:14:57.980 you with the Fauci ouchie. Then there's the libertarian view, which is, well, it's a private
00:15:01.940 business and the business can do whatever it wants. And it's bad if the government injects you with the
00:15:06.360 drug, but it's not bad if the business injects you with the drug and, you know, just start your own
00:15:10.060 corporation or whatever. And then there's the conservative view, which is this experimental
00:15:16.140 drug has side effects, some of which have been pretty serious. It does not have any long-term
00:15:22.240 data to go along with it. There are some studies that suggest that there could be really negative
00:15:27.060 consequences for groups of people who take it. The virus itself does not pose a particularly grave
00:15:32.160 danger to the vast majority of people. And there are a lot of questions about natural immunity
00:15:37.520 and people's own risks here. So because of that, we're going to take the cautious prudential
00:15:43.120 measure to not using dubious legal mechanisms and power companies to zap you full of an experimental
00:15:50.140 drug. It's a long way of giving the conservative point of view, but I just want to point out how
00:15:54.180 reasonable and prudential it is. That's what DeSantis is doing. Okay. DeSantis is saying, I'm not any
00:16:01.440 happier about having my rights and way of life taken away if it's taken away by a corporation than it is
00:16:07.420 by the government. The ideologues on the squish kind of libertarian-ish side, they're the ones
00:16:15.460 who say, yeah, I don't care. Shoot me with the Fauci out. You just don't let it be the government.
00:16:20.480 All hail big corporations. The conservative view, no, we're not going to do that. So just as
00:16:26.120 Ron DeSantis gave businesses a huge amount of freedom in the early part of the COVID lockdowns,
00:16:32.660 now he is prudently wielding the government to protect the freedoms of employees and of the
00:16:39.180 people and to have just government. Really good stuff. Very good use of state power. And of course,
00:16:45.460 he's going to be called an authoritarian. That word, more than almost any other word, I would strike that
00:16:50.940 word from the English language because I don't think it really means anything anymore.
00:16:53.960 By the current use of authoritarianism on the left and on the right, Thomas Jefferson would be an
00:17:01.280 authoritarian. John Locke would be an authoritarian. What does that mean? If you have any limits at all
00:17:07.920 to people's individual autonomy, to what? To do drugs, to sleep with whoever they want, to force your
00:17:14.320 employees to take experimental shots, to what? Everything. Anything I don't like is authoritarianism
00:17:21.540 in today's day and age. Well, they're calling DeSantis an authoritarian. Speaking of authoritarians
00:17:26.320 looking overseas, I'm turning to Russia for a moment. And I notice that while Boris Johnson,
00:17:34.740 the allegedly conservative prime minister in the UK, is pushing for a massive climate change
00:17:41.140 summit where they're going to push a bunch of crazy hysteria about the sun monster and the US is for
00:17:47.440 it and a lot of Western Europe is for it. Vladimir Putin in Russia says, I'm not going to go.
00:17:53.900 Now, we on the conservative side were accused of collaborating and colluding with the Russians
00:17:58.100 some years ago. We were accused of that by the deep state and liars in our federal agencies
00:18:05.640 and based on nothing. But now I'm starting to think maybe we should start colluding with these
00:18:09.800 Russians. You know, maybe these Russians, at least on the topic of the sun monster, they seem to have a
00:18:13.900 better idea. And the power grab being pushed by Boris Johnson and other Western leaders,
00:18:18.680 including our own. I think Putin probably has the right idea here. Putin apparently just funded this
00:18:25.020 cathedral. There's an amazing military cathedral just opened recently in Russia. It's beautiful,
00:18:29.560 beautiful architecture. It's probably the one example of new beautiful architecture with, you know,
00:18:36.740 a deep cultural and religious basis. The minute I saw it, I said, maybe we got to start colluding
00:18:41.240 with these Russians. Because they got the right idea. I don't think the Russians exactly have our
00:18:46.060 interests at heart. You know, I wouldn't. But I would like it maybe if our leaders here in the woke
00:18:51.700 West took a couple notes perhaps from Putin. Even more authoritarian than Putin, Xi Jinping,
00:18:58.420 the leader of China, is also ditching this ridiculous summit that Boris Johnson is putting on. And people
00:19:06.420 in other countries around the world who are resisting the tyranny of, you know, the sun monster
00:19:12.580 technocracy. First, you had the COVID technocracy. And now they're trying to maintain their recently
00:19:19.880 acquired power by pretending that the new existential threat is the sun monster. A lot of other countries
00:19:24.700 are looking to other nations for leadership now. Where they once might have looked to the United States,
00:19:29.560 they're looking to other nations because they don't want to import these kooky, woke ideologies like
00:19:33.760 transgenderism or climate hysteria. You see this right now in an article from the AP.
00:19:40.480 AP just came out with an article. Across Africa, major churches strongly oppose LGBTQ rights. And when
00:19:47.380 they say LGBTQ rights, they mean redefining marriage in a way that, you know, marriage for all of human
00:19:52.320 history everywhere in the world involved sexual difference, right? Maybe some places tolerated polygamy.
00:19:57.380 Some places in the Christian West did not tolerate polygamy. But sexual difference was thought to have
00:20:04.900 maybe something to do with marriage. Now, five minutes ago in the West, we decided that isn't
00:20:08.640 true. And we still, we really don't know what marriage is now anymore. We've settled on this idea
00:20:12.960 that it's a monogamous, well, no, not necessarily, because there's polyamory and all of this sort of
00:20:17.660 stuff. But that it's a union of two people of any sex who love each other. But they don't love each
00:20:22.880 other the way that siblings love each other. And they don't love each other the way that friends love
00:20:26.040 each other. They love each other in this more romantic way. But it's, but for some reason,
00:20:31.120 it's only two people for now, but maybe it'll be three people. And if we don't really know what it
00:20:34.940 is. So the, the article begins in Ghana, home to a diverse array of religions, leaders of major
00:20:42.540 churches have united in denouncing homosexuality as a perversion and endorsing legislation that would
00:20:46.980 impose anti-LGBT policies. And then they go through all of these play. Nigeria is not down with
00:20:54.520 redefining marriage. And in other African countries, bishops aligned with the worldwide
00:20:59.660 United Methodist Church are preparing to join an in the works breakaway denomination so they can
00:21:04.900 continue their practice of refusing to recognize same-sex marriage or ordain LGBTQ clergy. And it
00:21:11.760 goes on to complain about how these Africans won't accept woke Western secular ideologies.
00:21:16.620 You'll notice here, they don't, they don't talk about the Catholic Church because the Catholic
00:21:20.000 Church has not changed its view because the Catholic Church cannot change its view on marriage or,
00:21:25.540 or these sorts of things. But a lot of Protestant churches have, and some Protestant churches are
00:21:30.400 holding up. So another way to read this article is African countries try to, to maintain their own
00:21:41.060 culture and try to resist Western imperialism. In this case, the imperialism of the pride flag,
00:21:48.800 or the progress flag, or what, or it's even beyond the marriage issue. You see it with abortion. The
00:21:54.320 West pushes abortion on Africa and a lot of countries that don't want it, or the West pushes
00:21:58.600 all sorts of things, contraception even too. You would think that the woke people would be in favor of
00:22:06.700 the Africans keeping their own culture and opposing Western imperialism and hegemony, but they're not.
00:22:12.260 Because what we're seeing here is that liberalism is, is really not so much about you do you and I'll do me
00:22:18.640 in live and let live. It's not that at all. Liberalism actually appears to be a fairly totalitarian
00:22:24.260 ideology. This is why we focus on the rainbow flag as the kind of new flag of the United States.
00:22:30.880 Is the flag of the United States, the stars and stripes, is a national flag that talks about the
00:22:35.640 nation of America, which is a bounded concept. The LGBT, the rainbow flag is an imperial flag. It's a
00:22:42.820 universal flag that the claims of the rainbow are just as true in Tibet as they are in Detroit, right?
00:22:48.300 This is a flag for all people at all times throughout history. And the State Department is pushing this
00:22:53.220 imperial ideology. The State Department just yesterday tweeted out its support of International
00:22:59.260 Pronouns Day. State Department tweets out yesterday, quote, today on International Pronouns Day, we share why so
00:23:08.200 many people list pronouns on their email and social media profiles. Read more here. That's great. We
00:23:14.820 really support pronouns and people and men pretending to be women, right? This is what it says actually
00:23:20.940 underneath. You can read it in the post. Read on to learn why it matters what pronouns you use to refer
00:23:25.680 to people and how the United States embraces sharing pronouns. So there are two questions here or two
00:23:31.800 possibilities, I guess, to the question, why is America sharing this? Is it because America is just
00:23:38.180 oblivious to how radical this idea is that men can be women and it's important to pretend that men are
00:23:42.740 women in some cases? Or is it because the U.S. State Department knows that this is a poisonous but
00:23:49.720 very effective ideology and the United States is weaponizing it to increase our power and influence
00:23:56.480 around the world? I don't know. I don't know. I suspect it's some combination, actually. I suspect that
00:24:03.480 most of the pawns who are pushing this just think it's just true. It's just true that men can be
00:24:08.180 women. It's just good to do that. And I suspect a lot of people at the top recognize that it's a
00:24:12.840 powerful ideological weapon. It's an information weapon. Either way, though, it is authoritarian.
00:24:19.080 It is an imperial ideology. And people do have the right to resist it. You know, back when the United
00:24:26.040 States stood for truth, justice, and the American way, back when we were a Christian nation in our
00:24:32.140 self-understanding, back when the West broadly was Christendom, I think a lot of us could get on board
00:24:38.620 with sending that overseas. I mean, that was the point of Columbus's voyage. That was the point of
00:24:43.660 Western exploration, to share the good news of the gospel and the civilization that Christianity created
00:24:48.460 to the rest of the world. And I'm on board with that. Yeah, let's do it. Let's go. Let's bring the good
00:24:53.700 news, man. Let's do it. As a great civilization, let's share it with people.
00:24:56.480 But now, if the empire is going abroad to share transgender bathrooms and climate hysteria and fear
00:25:06.960 of the sun monster, I'm not on board with that. And I have a great deal of empathy, actually, for the
00:25:14.020 nations in Africa or Asia or wherever else that want to resist it. People are resisting it here. The ALCS
00:25:21.240 was on TV the other night. You've got A-Rod and Big Poppy were on Fox Sports discussing
00:25:27.460 the game. And the crowd decided to start chanting a very well-known expression, a variation on the
00:25:35.600 phrase, let's go, Brandon. Guys can come in like a chess in the queen or a rook on the chessboard,
00:25:41.260 right? These people have routines. But I think Ivaldi's the one guy he can get away with.
00:25:45.860 I thought Ivaldi kind of let his hair down a little bit. He threw two
00:25:49.260 those unbelievable split fingers for strikeouts for our f***ing two. When Laz Diaz, by the way,
00:25:54.980 missed 21 calls tonight, right? The average is eight or nine for an umpire. 21 is a great deal.
00:26:01.720 When he f***ed that call, I thought he lost his concentration and f***ing he hung the split.
00:26:06.620 Kudos to A-Rod for not breaking his commentary. He keeps pushing right ahead. But you can hear,
00:26:15.280 and it's not let's go Brandon that they're chanting. It's the real, the real version of
00:26:19.080 that. That took place outside Fenway Park. That took place, it wasn't in South Carolina. It wasn't
00:26:26.420 in Texas or Tennessee. That was in Boston. It's become a meme. And also Joe Biden has a very low
00:26:33.740 approval rating, even in places that might've voted for him. I think the oppressed masses
00:26:38.900 yearning to be free want political leaders to free us from the shackles of this libertine,
00:26:46.420 woke, progressive, liberal madness. Okay? And I think that politicians, Republicans who run
00:26:53.120 on the old squish way of things, I'm thinking of Asa Hutchinson in Arkansas, or any number of those
00:26:59.140 squishes, who run and they say, if you elect me, I won't do anything. I'll never impose my views on
00:27:05.040 anybody. I'm going to defend the neutral order. You know the neutral political order of transgender
00:27:10.000 bathrooms? You know the neutral political order of completely redefining marriage? You know the
00:27:14.580 neutral political order of this, that, and the other thing? No. I think what people recognize is
00:27:19.500 there is no neutral political order. All polities have some view of what's good and wrong and bad.
00:27:24.500 And we want our leaders to have a spine. Okay? And we want them to fight for us. You're seeing
00:27:31.240 this right now, speaking of sports. In Texas, Governor Abbott just banned boys from playing
00:27:37.120 in girl sports. Okay, cool. Makes perfect sense. The White House is furious. This is what the White
00:27:41.180 House said. Quote, this hateful bill in Texas is just the latest example of Republican state lawmakers
00:27:46.140 using legislation to target transgender kids whom the president believes are some of the bravest
00:27:51.640 Americans. You know, they're just storming Iwo Jima in order to score political points.
00:27:56.700 These anti-transgender bills are nothing more than bullying disguised as legislation and undermine
00:28:00.980 our nation's core values. You know, Thomas Jefferson's core value, Abraham Lincoln's core
00:28:05.640 value of letting dudes go into the girls changing room. You remember that? Amazing how fast that
00:28:11.320 happened. Okay, it's amazing how quickly. In 2012, 2011, Barack Obama opposed, and Joe Biden and everyone
00:28:21.900 else opposed, redefining marriage. Today, if you oppose letting Husky Hank go into the girls changing
00:28:28.480 room with your daughter, you're a bigot. Amazing how fast that happened. Conservatives used to say,
00:28:33.100 oh, don't worry about these woke people. Oh, don't worry. Common sense will get the better of them. I don't
00:28:37.520 think that's true. Common sense will only be around if people defend it and embrace common sense and
00:28:43.120 enforce common sense. Which brings me to another favorite politician of mine since I was a kid.
00:28:50.340 But he's getting criticized right now. It's Rudy Giuliani. He gets criticized because sometimes he
00:28:54.420 does things that are eccentric. So Rudy just posted on social media this image of him, this video of him
00:29:00.840 as a kind of face-swapped Abraham Lincoln talking about Terry McAuliffe in Virginia.
00:29:05.840 Virginia, vote against the man who dishonored our past by selling my bedroom hundreds and hundreds of
00:29:17.080 times to scoundrels in a pay-for-play scheme. In my time, we had a name for men who sold bedrooms for
00:29:26.640 one night. In your time, the name is Terry McAuliffe and the Clinton flees once and for all.
00:29:36.900 I love this. I love it. I love it. People are making fun of him and they're saying,
00:29:40.400 Rudy seems crazy. And what are you doing? Oh, no, please stop. No, I don't. I'm not a Rudy
00:29:44.280 Republican. I think it's great. I think it's hilarious. I think it's like Clint Eastwood talking
00:29:47.460 to the empty chair at the 2012 Republican National Convention. I think we need more of this in our
00:29:52.380 politics. A little levity, a little humor. Trump was obviously the king of this. I don't want to
00:29:58.080 hear any more nitpicking of Republicans who are doing a good job and who are basically have their
00:30:02.180 heart in the right place and are basically doing the right stuff. Okay. I don't, Marjorie Green is
00:30:06.580 kooky. Yeah, whatever. I don't care. Is she doing like good stuff? Is she not doing evil stuff? And is
00:30:11.760 she doing good stuff? And is she trying to go in the right direction? Okay. That's fine by me. Rudy.
00:30:16.100 Rudy. Yeah. Rudy, man, he's America's mayor. That's great. Got to recognize what the stakes
00:30:21.080 here, folks, and cut it out with the squishy stuff. All right. We got to get into the mailbag.
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00:31:33.520 delivered. Welcome back to my favorite time of the week, the mailbag. First question up from Asher.
00:31:38.980 Michael, my name is Asher. I'm 16, and I have a little philosophy question for you.
00:31:44.460 Imagine you live in a world where you had everything possible that you wanted. Wealth,
00:31:48.940 you had a perfect family. Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney voted using conservative values.
00:31:54.860 All SCOTUS justices ruled like Scalia and Thomas. And most importantly, everyone used a ring alarm system.
00:32:01.840 But in order to live in this world, one person has to be humiliated and suffer every single day.
00:32:08.220 You have the option to leave this perfect life, but if you do, everything you have is not guaranteed
00:32:13.100 to be the same. Would you leave this perfect life where all of it is predicated on one person being
00:32:17.900 tortured every day? Thanks. Love your show. I would leave that world. I do not want to live in a world
00:32:22.980 where I benefit, but only at the expense of someone being ruthlessly, needlessly tortured.
00:32:31.860 Okay? This is a thought experiment that does come up sometimes. And the just answer is that,
00:32:38.940 yeah, you would not accept a world where you get good stuff, but only by inflicting torture
00:32:46.800 constantly on somebody. And then sociopaths say they would just live in the world,
00:32:51.680 and who cares about the person being tortured. What's interesting about this thought experiment
00:32:56.180 is its relationship to Christianity, right? Because this is a fallen world. This is a broken
00:33:03.600 world. And because of original sin, sin and death pervade the world. And the consequence of that is
00:33:08.460 our mortality. So we're born and we have this wonderful, fun time and some free will, but we're
00:33:13.380 going to die, right? And that is the consequence of original sin. But there is good news. And the good
00:33:20.980 news is that Christ dies on the cross and is crucified and redeems us and is resurrected and
00:33:28.140 redeems us. Our savior lives. Oh, happy fault that one for us so great, so glorious, a redeemer.
00:33:32.180 So in a way, our eternal happiness, which is provided for through no particular help of our own,
00:33:41.820 this eternal happiness does hinge on the torture, the sort of infinite suffering of Christ on the
00:33:54.640 cross. The idea that God himself, the eternal logic of the universe would be crucified, but would then
00:34:03.960 conquer death, right? So the greatest imaginable suffering, but would then actually conquer death
00:34:10.340 death on the cross. So there is a real theological depth to that question. But if you're asking as
00:34:18.380 an ethical matter, would you, you know, chain someone up to the radiator and torture them
00:34:22.940 forever so you could have a good life? No, not a good idea. From Nick, good morning, Michael. The
00:34:27.680 nature of news reporting in the original sense has shifted dramatically in the past decade, so much so
00:34:31.920 that younger people tend to take their news from influencers on social media, not traditional news
00:34:36.500 sources. As a result, influencers who have almost no credentials in news media cannot be held
00:34:42.100 accountable if and when they boast an influential opinion, which produces the same results traditional
00:34:46.440 news media produce. The effect of this is that in the war for culture, the liberal media has claimed
00:34:51.920 enough influencers to take the cultural tide, and the only current way for conservatives to win the
00:34:56.000 war is to garner more influencers on social media than the left, something that is actively being
00:34:59.500 suppressed. My question is, is there a way governmentally to run around the problem, to rein in
00:35:04.320 influencers with the same rules? And long story short, can social media be saved from the libs
00:35:08.340 via government intervention? Sincerely, Nick, the happily married one. Well, I think you're
00:35:13.980 overestimating the credibility of journalists before this happened. You know, someone like Walter
00:35:21.640 Cronkite, the most trusted journalist in America, was a gigantic lib and a world federalist who probably
00:35:26.440 lost us the Vietnam War. So frankly, if it's between, I don't know, Nicki Minaj, you know, or Kanye West,
00:35:34.060 tweeting something and Walter Cronkite having a monopoly on credibility. I'm with Kanye. You know,
00:35:41.240 I don't want to go back to a world where Walter Cronkite is trusted, or Dan Rather, my goodness,
00:35:47.300 Dan Rather is a liar. He's a lib liar, but he was trusted by many people for a long time. I don't
00:35:52.040 want to go back to that world. I say this as an influencer. I don't have a journalism degree.
00:35:57.420 I've never worked as a reporter. I have worked as a journalist for a long time, and I've written
00:36:02.640 books, and I've done shows and things like that. But I guess I'm an influencer. But I would rather
00:36:08.660 my influence be in the politics than that of Walter Cronkite. Now, for the suppression of the right-wing
00:36:16.000 influencers on social media, can the government be used to help? Yeah, totally. I asked Bill Barr this.
00:36:20.760 I said, how do we do it? Do we do it through claiming that the left is, that the big tech
00:36:26.860 companies are violating their Section 230 responsibilities, you know, from the Communications
00:36:31.100 Decency Act, that they shouldn't be protected from liability? Should we do this by saying,
00:36:35.180 you know, they're really publishers, not platforms? Should we do this by saying that
00:36:40.200 they're a monopoly? Should we do this by saying that they're committing fraud? And he said, yes.
00:36:44.640 All of the above, but we should do it. Because if you control speech in a republic, you control
00:36:49.940 the whole political order. So yeah, we should use the government against our political opponents
00:36:55.120 who have a lot of political power in big tech. That's just common sense. From Caitlin. Hey,
00:37:00.220 Michael, question for you. How many kids is too many? I'm the youngest of four kids. Our parents
00:37:04.040 are divorced. In the hustle of shuffling between mom and dad, the consistency of always having my
00:37:08.180 siblings was comforting. I was talking about this with my sister somewhat recently. She's the eldest
00:37:12.380 sibling. And she shared that she has some resentment for having to take on parenting
00:37:16.460 roles while still a child herself. Both of our parents worked. And so she had to fill in the
00:37:20.580 gaps, especially with me. I'm now married and have two children. My husband and I have always
00:37:24.260 had the good old Catholic approach. However, many children the good Lord will bless us with. I want
00:37:28.080 to make sure I am available to provide for emotional and physical needs. And they don't need to get that
00:37:32.860 from their siblings. I'm not saying I want to be like 19 kids and counting, but I don't want to be
00:37:37.000 done at two. Sincerely, I don't want to be the reason my kids need therapy. Yeah. Keep
00:37:42.300 having kids. Be open to life. It's great. It's great. You know, why not? The problem that you
00:37:48.380 and your siblings had is not that you had too many siblings. I mean, you said that's a great,
00:37:52.380 great comfort. The problem is that your parents got divorced. And actually the number of siblings
00:37:57.400 was a great comfort for you. So I would, I would do it. I would say more. There are going to be some
00:38:01.080 downsides. You won't be able to pay as much attention to every kid and you won't be able to buy
00:38:05.020 them Christmas presents that are quite as expensive. But so what? You have a good big family. And if you
00:38:10.660 keep the family together, it's a great, it's a great gift you can have. You know, I have a small
00:38:18.700 family. I come from a small family myself. Sweet little Elise and I are working on growing our
00:38:24.100 family. You know, it's a great, great deal of fun to work on that sort of thing. And we'd like to,
00:38:28.000 and we're just going to remain open to life and have as many kids as we can. But my father comes from
00:38:31.860 a big family. You know, he's got five siblings and which used to be considered a small Catholic family.
00:38:38.340 Now it's considered a gigantic family and it's great. And it's just a wonderful thing. And I think
00:38:43.560 the siblings are all really grateful for one another. And we, you know, who are in the next
00:38:48.020 generation are really grateful for it. It's, it's, it's worth a lot more than, you know, nicer Christmas
00:38:53.180 presents or something. I think you really can't, can't put a price on how wonderful it is to have
00:38:56.820 a big family. From Allie, my dearest favorite podcaster. My question to you is in regard to female
00:39:02.080 sports. After the laughable WNBA parade, I had to ask, what are your thoughts on the low viewership
00:39:07.780 of female sports? Mostly basketball because the other ones are all right to watch.
00:39:13.120 But specifically, do you think that networks like ESPN shoving them down our throats is hurting them
00:39:17.680 at all or not affecting it because they're lame on their own? The WNBA will never be popular.
00:39:22.060 So do you think it should just cease to exist or should we just allow them to play and ignore the
00:39:25.560 left's attempt to make it equal to men's sports? Sincerely, they need to stop trying to make fetch
00:39:29.800 happen. Yeah, it's not cool at all. And the only reason you hear about it even is because
00:39:35.960 they make a big political stink about it and force the NBA to subsidize it. And then as you say,
00:39:40.300 the networks try to push it on you. But even so, no one shows up to the parades, right? So
00:39:44.340 yeah, sports are for physical excellence. So generally as a rule, people are only going to
00:39:54.040 watch men's sports. There are some exceptions to this. They're going to watch women's gymnastics,
00:40:00.080 right? They're going to watch women's ice skating. They're going to watch, there are certain sports
00:40:03.600 that I don't know. Do you even call that really a sport? It's certainly an athletic feat. So you're
00:40:08.520 going to watch things where you're watching the greatest displays of physical excellence. And so
00:40:14.740 in some cases that can be women, but in the vast majority of sports, it's going to be men.
00:40:19.480 And I guess the one exception I would say to this is in tennis, but I think that's really just because
00:40:23.680 of the celebrity of the Williams sisters. I don't know that people would really care that much
00:40:27.560 about women's tennis. If not for them, they really became a big celebrity couple. Not a couple like
00:40:35.460 they're dating, but the two of them really helped popularize that sport. But yeah, in general,
00:40:39.620 people are not going to pay attention to it. So I couldn't name WNBA players and I don't pay any
00:40:45.020 attention to it at all. And I say this as someone without really a dog in the fight because I've
00:40:48.900 never been the most athletic fella in the world. But if I am going to watch sports, I want to watch,
00:40:53.380 as everyone does, we want to watch the best and the strongest and the fastest. And just as a fact
00:40:59.840 of biology, that is going to be men. From Quaid. Hello, Smokey Mike. Hello. Hello, Quaid. I was
00:41:07.080 wondering what your opinion on how secularization in Europe from 1500 onward contributed to society.
00:41:13.600 My one university class is requiring a final paper on how secularization was what drove the success of
00:41:18.640 Europe. I got permission from my professor to argue that it was not secularization, but rather
00:41:23.320 the fulfillment of Judeo-Christian values that drove the success of Europe and that secularization
00:41:28.620 was what led to the atrocities of the 20th century and the decline of Europe.
00:41:33.000 I was wondering what resources you would recommend to best argue my position thanks to a Canadian
00:41:36.680 who escaped to Florida. Well, I think your position is a little confused because you're talking about
00:41:41.660 the great success of Europe after 1500. But you're then focusing, then you have to explain away
00:41:49.060 the lack of success. Then you have to explain away the atrocities. So I guess the first question you
00:41:54.620 have to ask is, is Europe's great success post 1500? I don't really think it is. I think that
00:42:03.740 this is a line of argument that is argued by woke people and secularists and liberals and Protestants
00:42:11.520 to some degree. Because you'll notice what happened in 1517 was the beginning of the Protestant
00:42:15.760 revolution. And so I think as a result of that, first Protestants and then liberals and then
00:42:22.100 secularists had to rewrite history to say that everything before 1500 was really bad. And it was
00:42:26.260 filled with the dark ages and people who didn't know anything. And a lot of that was just completely
00:42:31.380 made up. But you think about the greatest works of art and the greatest contributions to Western
00:42:38.540 civilization. Well, I don't know. Thomas Aquinas, that was before 1500 by a lot, right? St. Augustine,
00:42:44.680 that was a long time before 1500. Dante Alighieri, that was a long time before 1500. And, you know,
00:42:51.860 there were a lot of wonderful artistic developments afterward, but I don't think they were a major
00:42:56.960 break from the civilization before 1500. Actually, a lot of it comes from the counter-reformation,
00:43:03.060 right? A lot of it comes from artists like Caravaggio or Rainey or, you know, other people who created
00:43:07.620 so much of the art and the beautiful cathedrals and the things that we think of when we think of
00:43:11.660 Western civilization. So I would maybe make the argument that secularization, which I do think,
00:43:20.060 you know, actually does trace itself to the Protestant revolution because it cracks up the
00:43:25.480 confidence of Europe to make truth claims and leads to liberalism, which then led to secularism,
00:43:33.040 which has led to wokeism. I think that you might make the argument that secularization led to Europe's
00:43:39.600 downfall. And I think you might make the claim that Europe was actually a great deal stronger
00:43:43.800 before secularization began. From Kathy, hi, Michael. Love your show. Thanks for all the great
00:43:48.980 work you do. I have a question about a situation that's come up at work recently. My company is
00:43:53.780 requiring that I participate in an interactive unconscious bias training. I want to be better
00:43:59.120 about speaking up in a way that's authentic and true rather than staying quiet or worse, equivocating.
00:44:03.320 Not sure if this is the forum for this, but do you have any tips for how to articulate reflections
00:44:09.200 on this topic from a conservative point of view? I'm a very facts first person, so it's hard for me
00:44:15.040 to think about how to do this in what is sure to be a feelings oriented conversation. Thanks.
00:44:21.740 Sure. It depends what they bring up to you. The issue with unconscious bias is if their argument is
00:44:29.940 that you have these unconscious biases, but then once they become conscious, you can cure them,
00:44:34.220 then you can say, then you can just judge them on the merits. Is, you know, are they really bringing
00:44:40.460 up unconscious prejudices? I have, are those prejudices bad and what should I do to fix them?
00:44:46.100 But usually what they say is everyone has these unconscious biases and prejudices and everyone's
00:44:50.980 racist. All the white people are racist, but no other people cannot be racist. You can be a white
00:44:55.240 person who doesn't hate people on the basis of their race. You can be a black person who does
00:44:59.760 hate people on the basis of their race. The white guy will still be the racist and the black guy will
00:45:03.740 still not be the racist or the anti-racist or whatever. So if that's the case and they say,
00:45:09.200 well, yeah, you can, we can talk about these unconscious biases, but you can never fix them.
00:45:13.220 Then I would say, well, then what's the point of the training? If there's nothing we can do about
00:45:17.100 it, then what's the point of the training would just be to instill a sense of racial guilt,
00:45:22.600 you know, an irredeemable racial guilt. So I would, I would avoid that. And then I would stand up
00:45:29.040 against the claims that you find false. And I would be firm about them. You don't need to be
00:45:33.460 flamboyant, but you, you, I would be firm. And I think you mostly need to be aware that that could
00:45:39.260 have professional consequences for you. And I, I think you ought to have the integrity and the
00:45:43.160 courage to stand up for them and do it in a way that's prudent and, you know, wise as a serpent
00:45:48.380 and innocent as a dove. But you might have to face consequences for it. Increasingly, we all might
00:45:53.440 have to face consequences if we want to stand up for what is good and true and beautiful.
00:45:57.600 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. See you on Monday.
00:46:27.600 Hey everybody, this is Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show. You know, some people are
00:46:56.480 depressed because the Republic is collapsing, the end of days is approaching, and the moons turn
00:47:01.060 to blood. But on The Andrew Klavan Show, that's where the fun just gets started. So come on over
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